RAF Coastal Command vs U-Boats

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • The contest between aircraft and U-Boats during the Second World War was one of competing technological innovations, culminating with a decisive struggle in the summer of 1943. The History Guy tells the forgotten story of the development of anti-submarine warfare and the contest between the aircraft of RAF Coastal Command and U-Boats of the Kriegsmarine in the Bay of Biscay.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 713

  • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
    @TheHistoryGuyChannel  4 роки тому +276

    Some viewers noted that I use the term "Flight Officer," the proper title is "Flying Officer." In the introduction I say that Herbert Pustkuchen was responsible for sinking HMS Penelope. Actually, a submarine under his command damaged, but did not sink, HMS Penelope. I mention pilot Gordon Hyams- he was a pilot with the RNAS, not the RAF, which had not yet been established. At 7:43 I mention that War Order 483 was issued May 1, 1941- that was a misspeak- the order was issued May 1, 1943. I apologize for the errors.

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw 4 роки тому +61

      We all make mistakes but good historians correct them.
      .

    • @timwodzynski7234
      @timwodzynski7234 4 роки тому +6

      I always thought it was flight officer and I believe the R.A.F was formed in 1919 when The R.F.C and the R.N.A.S. were amalgamated.

    • @MrWATCHthisWAY
      @MrWATCHthisWAY 4 роки тому +24

      The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered - “To error is human”, Sir! This is why we have erasers. Maybe a history lesson on erasers. ✏️ na to dull... take care because we are all waiting for our next lesson from THG!

    • @georgebuller1914
      @georgebuller1914 4 роки тому +9

      You need a vacation! LOL

    • @Marxman-bi5yu
      @Marxman-bi5yu 4 роки тому +15

      Mistakes happen as we're only human, it's extremely welcome and commendable that you immediately and openly admit to them though. It feels like that's a rare trait these days especially online.

  • @StarWarsSurvivalist
    @StarWarsSurvivalist 4 роки тому +216

    Cheers to the pilot who threw the wrench at the U-Boat.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 роки тому +12

      Should have thrown it at whoever made or set the duff bombs.

    • @Ya-average-11B
      @Ya-average-11B 4 роки тому +2

      Lol 💪🏻

    • @dougstitt1652
      @dougstitt1652 4 роки тому +2

      should have got a air medal

    • @arnaudcochin3854
      @arnaudcochin3854 4 роки тому +1

      On a second pass he threw his shoes, he touched but didn't sunk the uboat..., he wanted to threw his uniform to jam the sub propeller but he ran out of fuel and had to go back to the base 😌.

    • @tennesseehomesteader6175
      @tennesseehomesteader6175 3 роки тому +1

      His attitude was in the right place that's for sure

  • @tomobedlam297
    @tomobedlam297 3 роки тому +32

    Back in 1985 I was a teacher in Wellsford, NZ. I asked the pupils to bring something of their family history. One girl brought a scrapbook with the story of her granddad she'd never met: Lloyd Allan Trigg. I've never felt so humbled and proud and told her as much. Thank you History Guy. This is indeed a story that deserves to be remembered!

    • @zam6877
      @zam6877 Рік тому +1

      😭...wow...

  • @ddark0077
    @ddark0077 4 роки тому +110

    Surely no better way to be awarded a medal than a recommendation from your enemy. He fought hard he fought well and died a gentleman warrior.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 роки тому +4

      I think surviving to colect the medal in person remains the best option.
      But then, my old man never did get the medal he & the rest of the crew deserved.
      Acording to his account:
      A Yank destroyer was closing with a surfaced U Boat.
      Presumably an elderly destroyer - as at this juncture our heroes in their Costal Command Recce Bomber flying out of the Azores (Dad flew Forts & Libs and I can't recall which he was in that day) decided to join in.
      With considerable precision they managed to bracket the ship's bows.
      It is my impression this allowed the U Boat to scuttle off in the confusion but I can't say for sure.
      If there was justice in this world they could have been the only British Aircrew awarded Iron Crosses ;-p

    • @josephstevens9888
      @josephstevens9888 3 роки тому +3

      It is, indeed, a high honor to be recognized and admired for bravery by your enemy.

    • @agwhitaker
      @agwhitaker 3 роки тому +1

      Lieutenant Commander Gerard Broadmead Roope, captain of the destroyer HMS Glowworm, received ( posthumously ) the first Victoria Cross of WWII for ramming the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper, April 8, 1940.
      This was awarded as a direct result of information supplied by the captain of the Hipper, Kapitan Z.S. Hellmuth Heye sent through the Red Cross.

  • @coldwarsarge7592
    @coldwarsarge7592 4 роки тому +90

    As a shut-in, disabled vet I want to say how much I appreciate your fine programs.
    I love studying history and it's channels like yours that help bring the classroom to my bedside! Thank you.

    • @RealmCenter40
      @RealmCenter40 4 роки тому +10

      Thank you for your service.

    • @Radio49point7FM
      @Radio49point7FM 4 роки тому +7

      Thanks mate for your service, I am Australian but thank you anyway

    • @helenel4126
      @helenel4126 4 роки тому +5

      Thank you for your service and sacrifice. I appreciate it more than I can say. It is soldiers such as you who have preserved our liberty.

    • @Auggies1956
      @Auggies1956 4 роки тому +4

      Thank you for your service.

    • @John-t1t5v
      @John-t1t5v 3 місяці тому

      Thanking you for your service is not enough. We are free because of people like you. WE will try to be the kind of free citizens who prove worthy OF your sacrifice, Sir.

  • @belesariius
    @belesariius 4 роки тому +136

    John Cruikshank, VC holder, RAF Coastal command turned 100 in May2020. Still alive.

    • @robinsattahip2376
      @robinsattahip2376 4 роки тому +3

      I'd love to hear his opinion on what Britain has become.

    • @belesariius
      @belesariius 4 роки тому +3

      @@robinsattahip2376 what all of them would say- especially the ones who gave all.

    • @robinsattahip2376
      @robinsattahip2376 4 роки тому +1

      @Xen No

    • @YorkyOne
      @YorkyOne 4 роки тому

      @@robinsattahip2376
      Yes.

    • @concise707
      @concise707 3 роки тому

      Suffered 72 wounds and still got his crew and aeroplane home.

  • @iandavis7776
    @iandavis7776 4 роки тому +3

    My father was an officer in 206 squadron Coastal Command and flew in Hudsons for the first half of the war and I have his log book which reveals a lot of the operations that Coastal Command took part in, including providing air support over Dunkirk where his plane shot down an ME109. The squadron members were moved to Transport Command in 1943 to be trained to tow gliders for DDay

    • @schoolminer
      @schoolminer 3 роки тому

      My dad was in 206 as well! Hudsons and then Libs as a WAG

    • @iandavis7776
      @iandavis7776 3 роки тому

      @@schoolminer
      Pat, I have my fathers log book for his entire career in the RAF with all his flights crew and others but cant find your fathers name amongst the people that flew with him. This record is unfortunately just a small slice of the persons in 206 as it only of my father and pilot/copilot he flew with. He left 206 in 43 along with other pilots who were reposted to transport command to fly Dakotas to tow gliders for DDay He was then posted to HQ 229 group and promoted to Wing Commander to spend time in India, then to Germany straight after to war to work on reparations of goods and persons back to where they were taken from.
      It is good to talk to you as I havnt heard anything from anyone who had any connection to his RAF time.
      Ian Davis

  • @richardklug822
    @richardklug822 4 роки тому +78

    One of my co-workers served in a Liberator on long range patrols against Japanese subs in the Pacific. He once stated the old saying of "hours of boredom, seconds of terror" perfectly described those flights.

    • @Doobie3010
      @Doobie3010 4 роки тому +1

      Richard Klug Would be the same assessment by most men in every Armed force,at war.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому

      did he ever hear about this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident

    • @larrytischler570
      @larrytischler570 4 роки тому +1

      A cousin of my neighbor dropped a bomb on U-boat at low level in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy flew a lot of land based, seaplane, and blimp patrols there to defend against attacks on shiploads of petroleum products,cotton and agricultural foods going out of Texas and Louisiana. Another guy I knew was on a tanker loaded with av-gas, and as it was clearing the mouth of the Mississippi, it was hit by a torpedo and caught fire. A moment later, a second torpedo struck and the concussion blew out the flames. Talk about shear terror! After that he captained a small banana boat from the tropics to Texas and stayed close enough to shore, almost bumping bottom to keep from running up on another sub.
      One cotton freighter was torpedoed just off Port Aransas, TX, but tugs went out and pulled it into the channel where it was unloaded. Cotton was critical for clothing for the Allies. And the lintels were used to make double based gun powder. The Naval Air Station, Corpus Christi was close by. So Catalina sea planes and PB4Y2's (NAVY B-24's) were closeby to fly cover for the valuable cargo recovery. The ship was left for scrap. Mom's middle brother, while in the Coast Guard, fought the U-boats on the Edsall Class Destroyer Escort Joyce, DE 317.

    • @73Trident
      @73Trident 4 роки тому +1

      @Richard Klug When I worked heliportable seismic back in the 80's one of the pilots that we flew with said flying was hours and hours of boredom with moments of stark raving terror. He was a Viet Nam helicopter pilot veteran.

  • @DawnOldham
    @DawnOldham 4 роки тому +65

    What a pilot! Nerves of steel and the training and dedication to know that his doomed airplane could still take out the sub. May he and his crew always be remembered.

    • @zipfish
      @zipfish 4 роки тому

      Very brave of him to decide to sacrifice his life, but I wonder what his crew thought about it. Lads I'm sacrificing all of out lives.

    • @fredlin6303
      @fredlin6303 3 роки тому

      @@zipfish Back then, personal and group sacrifices for the good of the masses were common. The later generations would rather worship the God of Self before Services for their fellow citizens. In our current self aggrandizing world, we cannot imagine that any enemy crew would credit RAFCC plane for destroying their sub. Back then, Truth still worth something that money cannot buy.

  • @tymeonmyside539
    @tymeonmyside539 4 роки тому +74

    545 am in California. Having a bout of insomnia. And this comes on... Now ill never get sleep because THE HISTORY GUY makes my favorite subject history near as interesting as my gramps old war stories

  • @malenotyalc
    @malenotyalc 3 роки тому +1

    I am not ashamed to admit - the description of such gallantry brought tears to my weathered and grizzled cheeks.

  • @missinglincoln
    @missinglincoln 4 роки тому +28

    My father served with the RCAF during the war, attached to the RAF Coastal Command. Thank you so very much for this video. They deserve this level of respect for their courage, for their success, and for their losses.

  • @TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta
    @TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta 4 роки тому +189

    Imagine that... Knowing your plane is lost and your crew about to die, attacking anyway and your fate being lost to history but for the testimony of the guy that killed you...
    Wow! That is all kinds of a bad day!

    • @SIRUNOWN
      @SIRUNOWN 4 роки тому +21

      Someone on that plane dropped the Life Raft too, they probably all knew they wouldn't survive and someone thought "We might as well give the Germans a chance to go home" as one of their last acts. Plane crashes kill on impact, submariners drown, they dropped a life line to the men who killed them.

    • @WillRosecrans
      @WillRosecrans 4 роки тому +7

      @@SIRUNOWN Either that, or some of the bomber crew actually survived and made it to the raft, and the Germans shot them to get the raft and never told anybody. It's hard to know exactly how accurate the story is, since there is only one source.

    • @dougstitt1652
      @dougstitt1652 4 роки тому +4

      but was good that the german remarked in his favor

    • @cornfedtuber
      @cornfedtuber 4 роки тому +7

      " ...but for the testimony of the guy that killed you... Wow! That is all kinds of a bad day!" Not really so bad. If not for the German's recommendation, it is likely their sacrifices would have passed completely unremarked. While that could not mean anything to the deceased pilot, it surely meant a great deal to his family and friends and allowed for people like us to remember and honor their sacrifices here today.
      It also allows for a nod and tip of the cap to the former enemy who was big enough of a man to speak up about the man who defeated him.

    • @TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta
      @TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta 4 роки тому +2

      @@cornfedtuber "But for the testimony of the guy that killed you"....I'm sorry, I didn't notice anything good about this day. Good men died. Wether or not you think there were any aboard the sub I leave to you. I choose to believe at least some were.
      Bad days don't come much worse.

  • @alanhelton
    @alanhelton 4 роки тому +48

    May he never be forgotten. His and all others history definitely deserves to be remembered.

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 4 роки тому +7

      There was one other instance of a Victoria Cross being awarded on the recommendation of an enemy. Lt-Cdr Gerard Roope was commander of the destroyer HMS Glowworm that rammed a German heavy cruiser off the coast of Norway with the predictable loss of the Glowworm. The Hippers commander was so impressed with Roope's courage that he wrote to the Royal Navy via the Red Cross recommending a posthumous VC.

    • @kirkmorrison6131
      @kirkmorrison6131 4 роки тому +5

      Amen is all I can say. He and his crew showed unbelievable courage and devotion to duty

  • @keegan773
    @keegan773 4 роки тому +1

    My father was a wireless operator/mechanic flying RAF Coastal Command Liberators in the North Sea and towards Sweden and Norway looking for U boats leaving North Germany. The aircraft were fitted with Leigh lights fitted under the wing. These were used to illuminate targets at close range after being picked up on RADAR.

  • @Curiosity-NZ
    @Curiosity-NZ 4 роки тому +22

    Thank you giving due recognition to Leonard Trigg V.C.a valiant Kiwi.

    • @iancurtis1152
      @iancurtis1152 3 роки тому +2

      Other valiant Kiwi pilots, Edgar Kain and James Ward.🇳🇿They had also been taken too soon.

  • @pangyarlee510
    @pangyarlee510 4 роки тому +59

    i am a 11 year old guy, i love history

    • @cogidubnus1953
      @cogidubnus1953 4 роки тому +4

      Good for you...it's a hugely interesting and valuable subject...I've always regretted that at school I had to pick between my two favourites, Geography and History...if you've a true love of any subject do NOT ever give it up...you'll carry on learning about it all your life...good luck!

    • @pangyarlee510
      @pangyarlee510 4 роки тому +3

      @@cogidubnus1953 thanks

    • @tymeonmyside539
      @tymeonmyside539 4 роки тому +6

      Learn it teach it make sure others never repeat it. History is a far more important subject then we ever give it credit.

    • @pangyarlee510
      @pangyarlee510 4 роки тому +1

      @@tymeonmyside539 true

    • @frogandspanner
      @frogandspanner 4 роки тому +2

      I am 68-year-old guy in the United Kingdom and am loving the history on this channel. Keep watching; keep enjoying; and keep learning.

  • @jameshunter5485
    @jameshunter5485 4 роки тому +36

    My Uncle Arthur while flying a PBY Catalina was shot down by Zero fighters near Espiritu Santo In the Pacific and is listed as MIA to this day. During his flight training in Pensacola, Florida his aircraft sank a German U-Boat off the Atlantic coast of Florida. A gallant warrior whom I will always extol. This episode of THG was excellent and allowed me to do that.

    • @ulrikschackmeyer848
      @ulrikschackmeyer848 4 роки тому +6

      Honour honoured, duly noted!

    • @larrytischler570
      @larrytischler570 4 роки тому +5

      Espiritu Santo area fighting was intense. They did not call that region and around the Southern Solomons Torpedo Junction for nothing. I thank your family for his service to and wish belated condolences to them all.

    • @notreallydavid
      @notreallydavid 4 роки тому +1

      @@larrytischler570 Seconded from the UK.

  • @jeesusmeesuss5247
    @jeesusmeesuss5247 4 роки тому +35

    My grandfather actually took out a submarine from a plane, but he was in the Pacific. He was on the search for GHWB when he went down also. He's in some books, Francis M. Fay.

    • @thadnipper9411
      @thadnipper9411 4 роки тому +3

      I read about him years ago when I was a school boy.

    • @jeesusmeesuss5247
      @jeesusmeesuss5247 4 роки тому +6

      @Dave A. I wouldn't say he's famous, actually my other grandfather was island hopping in the Pacific, and received a purple heart and some other commendations as well, he carried his injured buddy miles, but otherwise was a cook and ran a dozer. The one that was in planes spoke boldly of his experience, and my other grandfather was seriously traumatized by the experience and what he saw on the ground.

    • @ScaleMilitaryModels
      @ScaleMilitaryModels 4 роки тому +3

      Was he on a B24 if he was, please let me know, also do you have any pictures of his plane if it is a liberator? Look in my channel, I’m making a shot down anti sub b24 model in 1944

    • @jeesusmeesuss5247
      @jeesusmeesuss5247 4 роки тому +4

      @@ScaleMilitaryModels strangely, my grandmother passed away, his wife, the day I posted this comment. I believe he may have, he flew several different planes for the USN. I've sat in a couple of the cockpits when I was younger, but have a hard time remembering and only have a picture of him in uniform from the era, and ones with him and I hunting and fishing. If I can get some more pictures from the estate I'll send them your way.

  • @peterjulianphotos4659
    @peterjulianphotos4659 4 роки тому +14

    Thank you so much for bringing to light a forgotten moment of histroy. My wife's great uncle (also a Royal New Zealand Air Foce Pilot) is buried in Iceland, again one of the many who gave their lives hunting for U-Boats in the mid altlantic.

  • @cogidubnus1953
    @cogidubnus1953 4 роки тому +109

    Excellent tribute, although you could also have perhaps mentioned John Cruickshank VC who successfully pressed home a similar U Boat attack from a Catalina flying boat despite being struck in no less than seventy two places including two "serious wounds" (what were the seventy less serious ones for gods sake?) and managed an epic job of getting his wounded/dead crew home and landing them...

    • @jamesdriscoll9405
      @jamesdriscoll9405 4 роки тому +10

      I was at a small plane wreck in the heavily forested hills south west of Hood River, OR. The pilot -almost- landed, but was caught in the trees, with the plane suspended in the trees above a logging road. It was amazing how beat up the pilot and passenger were, considering the low speed of the event. They had many small cuts and bruises, probably from being struck by every thing not nailed down. And everything that broke off.
      They were close enough to the ground that they were able to jump safely to the road below and walk to a nearby farm.
      The event was attributed to high winds at the summit, making the upwind approach hazardous.

    • @SteamboatWilley
      @SteamboatWilley 4 роки тому +12

      I came here to say this. My brother met John Cruickshank once at Leuchars airshow, which is how I first came to learn of his story. A remarkable man.

    • @clevernamegotban1752
      @clevernamegotban1752 4 роки тому +26

      he is also the only currently LIVING VC recipient from WW2. and the first VC recipient to ever reach 100 years of age.

    • @DrivermanO
      @DrivermanO 4 роки тому +18

      When I was around 10 years old - 1960/1961 or so, I was given a book called "Skymen" by Larry Forrester (of "Reach for the Sky" fame) which had individual chapters about various famous pilots and their exploits. I don't know if I still have it (maybe in the loft!) One was about Albert Ball VC, another Mickey Mannock. Can't remember many of the others, but one was John Cruikshank VC. I have never forgotten the mental picture of him, severely wounded, taking back the controls of his severely punctured Catalina and planing at full throttle across the surface at Sullom Voe, with water spouting through the holes in the hull and beaching it, because it would have sunk otherwise. A remarkable feat.

    • @vigilantobserver8389
      @vigilantobserver8389 4 роки тому +9

      @@DrivermanO That is definitely a story, which the History Guy or Mark Felton should tell. Remarkable!

  • @jamesdriscoll9405
    @jamesdriscoll9405 4 роки тому +40

    Did anyone else think he was going to kamakaze the sub?
    Imagine, for a second, the pilot's view of 20MM incoming. Now, turn right into it and slow down.
    I wonder what they were saying on comms? Prepare for water landing? Drop the raft?
    Did the bombardier know he had won?
    Imagine the seamen, watching their AA chew into the plane, as it opens the big door on the bottom and unloads vengeance. I wonder if the deck crew survived the explosions?
    In the course of human events, there is sometimes a moment when the course of the future is decided, and one gets to reflect, for an instant, exactly what that means, and possibly react in time to close the deal.
    Thanks, History Guy, for such a thought provoking tale of valor, and the most metal moment I will have today.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  4 роки тому +20

      In this case, it appears that only U-boat crew who were on deck when the charges exploded survived.

    • @GrandpawTheGreat
      @GrandpawTheGreat 4 роки тому +12

      This pilot was truly a hero. His valor reminded me of that unarmed young man how charged head first into a terrorist armed with a machine gun to save a trainload of people in France. People are capable of doing extraordinary things, which makes history worth remembering.

    • @waynevreeland3141
      @waynevreeland3141 4 роки тому +8

      Very well stated and thought provoking. Much like a line from a very famous and haunting song... "Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"

    • @momcat2223
      @momcat2223 4 роки тому +2

      @@waynevreeland3141 Edmund? Edmund, is that you?

  • @johntabler349
    @johntabler349 4 роки тому

    These are the stories that are bring history to life, no embellishment needed

  • @ianmansfield68
    @ianmansfield68 4 роки тому +1

    My grandfather flew in coastal command, often flying up the Norwegian Fjords to photograph German ships there. He had quite a few stories to tell. Thank you for recognising them with this inciteful video.

  • @D__Lee
    @D__Lee 4 роки тому

    Thanks for honoring the pilot and his crew! If any of their family members are alive, I'm sure they are busting with pride at the heroism and the ultimate sacrifice that was paid.

  • @coptertim
    @coptertim 4 роки тому +8

    Nothing like history told by someone who loves history.

  • @krondarr8865
    @krondarr8865 4 роки тому +18

    I forget the exact quote but it goes something like this "There can be no higher praise than earning the respect of your enemy." RIP. You did your duty for God and country. Thank you.

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd 4 роки тому +1

      The duty is to King and Country. NZ is a secular nation.

  • @schoolminer
    @schoolminer 3 роки тому +1

    Well done. My dad flew in Libs in 206 Squadron hunting subs. I wish he was still around to have been able to watch this. Cheers.

  • @wekapeka3493
    @wekapeka3493 4 роки тому +8

    Wing commander Mick Ensor, also a New Zealander, flew for RAF Coastal Command and pressed home a similar attack. His exploding depth charges destroyed the uboat but fatally damaged his aircraft which crashed in the sea shortly after, he and some other crew members survived and were rescued. He became OC Malta in the years following the war and later published an autobiography.

  • @martiniv8924
    @martiniv8924 4 роки тому +1

    My father in-law was a flight mechanic in WW2 in Coastal Command , Catalinas and Short Sunderland he had many a tale to tell

  • @Trucktiger2468
    @Trucktiger2468 4 роки тому +2

    A superb recitation of WW2 history. One that is not readily told in classes.
    Thank you.

  • @Dragoth1337
    @Dragoth1337 4 роки тому +1

    I almost expect history guy to say at the end "and that's the rest of the story" and it deserves to be remembered.

  • @stevedietrich8936
    @stevedietrich8936 4 роки тому +21

    Morning THG. Your narration skills are second to none. One of the networks should give you a 10 or 15 minute slot every Sunday morning.

    • @tymeonmyside539
      @tymeonmyside539 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe Friday near dinner time that way it is seen. Heck I'd give him 3 hour show if I were in charge that way he could really dig in

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 4 роки тому

      The way that TV viewerships are heading, he probably gets more views here working to his own schedule :)

    • @jangamaster8677
      @jangamaster8677 4 роки тому +2

      Networks? Haha nah bro this ain’t 1980, Television is dead.

  • @Mspindare
    @Mspindare 4 роки тому

    Hi History Guy! The Story of Powell Crosley, and his brother Lewis, is history that deserves..... your enthusiastic attention.

  • @LarS1963
    @LarS1963 4 роки тому +8

    Another VC that was awarded partly due to recommendation from the enemy, was that of Gerard Roope, commander of HMS Glowworm. I've mentioned it before and I still think the tale of the last battle of Glowworm is history that deserves to be remembered.

    • @DrivermanO
      @DrivermanO 4 роки тому +1

      Think he's already done it - I've certainly seen this in the last few months. Maybe another contributor - Drachinifel?

    • @ulrikschackmeyer848
      @ulrikschackmeyer848 4 роки тому +1

      Drach speaks at lenght about Glowworm in his video on WESERÜBUNG, 'What went wrong in Norway' or some such thing

    • @DrivermanO
      @DrivermanO 4 роки тому

      Drachinifel no 89

  • @tedthesailor172
    @tedthesailor172 3 роки тому

    Brilliant video about honourable and courageous men. Many thanks...

  • @MajorT0m
    @MajorT0m 4 роки тому +2

    Incredible story!

  • @deeser
    @deeser 4 роки тому

    That's one incredible bit of history.

  • @adamlee3772
    @adamlee3772 2 роки тому

    Excellent informative video. Coastal command is often forgotten but they fought valiantly.

  • @3000waterman
    @3000waterman 4 роки тому

    Excellent. And NOT peppered with ads. Thank goodness.

  • @kellywellington7122
    @kellywellington7122 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks. I always consider the Coastal Command to be overlooked. The VLR (Very Long Range) Fortresses and Liberators, most of them hand-me-downs from Bomber Command, closed the 'Mid-Atlantic Gap' and brought light to the Black Hole. It is history worth being remembered. Commendations to all the men who spent hour upon tedious hour watching the featureless ocean, looking for anything out of the ordinary and potentially malicious, to keep their comrades safe.

  • @wm565
    @wm565 4 роки тому +8

    I had known about Trigg's VC way back in high school, reading books. Always thought it incredible that an enemy U-boat commander would recommend him for a VC. His was indeed the path of duty that leads to glory.

    • @monza1002000
      @monza1002000 4 роки тому +3

      A similar thing happened in the raid on St Nazaire. A British sailor manned the gun on a MTB and faced off against a German destroyer. The Captain of the destroyer informed the RN of the bravery of that sailor as he continued to fire on the destroyer as his burning MTB sank. They were all brave men in those days.

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 3 роки тому

      The VC received by the Commanding officer of HMS GLOWWORM was awarded largely on the basis of a communication from the Captain of the HIPPER... which GLOWWORM had rammed.

  • @nickmoore385
    @nickmoore385 4 роки тому +11

    Thanks for the video, it was very interesting and speaks to their bravery and determination. My old neighbour was a B24 Liberator pilot in RAF Coastal Command. He was Polish and a trainee pilot there when the Germans invaded. He managed to escape in a biplane and made his way to England via Turkey I believe. On one Liberator patrol they had landing gear warning lights as they took off. They elected to carry on with the multi-hour patrol not knowing if they’d be able to land on their return. Fortunately the gear locked out and they landed safely.

  • @jeffbowling2632
    @jeffbowling2632 4 роки тому +1

    The history channel on TV should hire you as the program director your channel sir is what a history channel should be

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 4 роки тому

      He doesn't make videos on things like aliens or zombies, so why would The History Channel be interested in his work?

    • @jeffbowling2632
      @jeffbowling2632 4 роки тому

      @@Dave_Sisson that's exactly why he should be in charge of the history channel he talks about real history not the garbage that the history channel aires

  • @ddraig1957
    @ddraig1957 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video. The story of Flying Officer Trigg and his heroism, and that of his crew , brought a lump to my throat. All credit to the U Boat commander who made this story known to the British authorities when he could have just stated his name,rank and serial number.Coastal Command was one of the forgotten service arms of WW2. It's aircrew suffered heavy casualties.I think I'm correct in saying that an RAF Sunderland was shot down at the very end of the war in Europe attacking a U Boat. None of it's crew survived.The crew included a Canadian and an Australian.All brave men,they deserve to be recognised and remembered.

  • @ronnormson
    @ronnormson 2 роки тому

    You are "One of a kind". Gifted as an orator! Your productions far exceed others. Thank You! You bring all of us enjoyment in learning real history.

  • @colingibson8018
    @colingibson8018 4 роки тому

    This is an area in which I have studied for a number of years. This is a very good video. Which is made greater by the fact that you have corrected your own mistakes. This truly stands you out as a great historian. Your photos are some of the best as you have taken the time to sort out the non stock that every one else uses. A great video as always. Thank you for a piece of often over looked history. As you so rightly said with both combatants lost we shall never know the real truth of the matter. And with the number of aircraft and uboats that are just lost with no know positions. This is definitely not an isolated incident. Thank you again to you and your wonderful wife for the hard work you put into these video's. Your quest for the truth stands you out in a field of has beens and wannabes. Thank you.

  • @alfnoakes392
    @alfnoakes392 4 роки тому +1

    Years ago was fortunate enough to be viewing an RAF Coastal Command Short Sunderland , with a commentary being given by a former crew member. He described with great enthusiasm the innovation that Australian crews introduced to Sunderlands in service, the addition of forward-firing machine-guns operated by the pilot (fighter-pilot style) for "hosing down" (his words) the decks (ie AA gun crews) of submarines that were being attacked. I remember hoping that no German tourists were within earshot ...

  • @hotrdchvy350
    @hotrdchvy350 4 роки тому +46

    You should do the history of the USS Oklahoma. The only battleship to collide with a freight train. Was the reason the Arizona was in pearl December 7th

    • @MrWATCHthisWAY
      @MrWATCHthisWAY 4 роки тому +13

      Now you have me interested in this tragic tale of a battle ship colliding with a freight train??? This has to be one interesting story!!

    • @ethanknight664
      @ethanknight664 4 роки тому +3

      Patrick Martin Pretty sure it was a Japanese train.

    • @ethanknight664
      @ethanknight664 4 роки тому +1

      Patrick Martin no worries, bud

    • @ericw270
      @ericw270 4 роки тому +7

      ua-cam.com/video/PKklyvxw8QU/v-deo.html
      History guy episode on the ship that sunk a freight train

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 роки тому +2

      Sorry, but that last bit is bugging me. Explain.

  • @donmathias1705
    @donmathias1705 4 роки тому +1

    A great piece on history we do not celebrate down here in NZ.Lovely to hear this story. Thanks

  • @TorinStein
    @TorinStein 4 роки тому +14

    Always nice to wake up to History Guy!

    • @eddique
      @eddique 4 роки тому +3

      Three days a week.

    • @kowalskidiazdegeras9190
      @kowalskidiazdegeras9190 4 роки тому +3

      Me, living on the other side of the pond, watching while having lunch...

    • @bonnypop5764
      @bonnypop5764 4 роки тому +3

      Going to bed

    • @jordaneggerman4734
      @jordaneggerman4734 4 роки тому +2

      Night worker in the US Midwest: THG is one of my Monday morning rituals before bed.

  • @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
    @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 2 роки тому

    A tale of supreme sacrifice and a much deserved award of the VC. As was said in the film "Das Boot" by the "Kaleun" "those airmen could drop their bombs anywhere, and who would know"? Thank god for men such as Flying Officer Trigg.

  • @georgebennett3197
    @georgebennett3197 3 роки тому

    Yet another marvelous; informative and enjoyable post. Thank you History Guy. I was born in 1950 only a few years after the end of the Second World War - so my Dad encouraged me to learn about the war (although he never pushed me). This video's subject was completely new to me - so, once again - Thanks!

  • @GregWilliams-g1e
    @GregWilliams-g1e Рік тому +1

    Brilliant production. Thank you.

  • @leefrancis5446
    @leefrancis5446 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you History Guy. As a Kiwi this made me feel very proud and very humble. Any chance of an episode on Sir Keith Park or Archie MacIndoe.

  • @richardking6415
    @richardking6415 3 роки тому

    These videos are the most addicting thing I watch

  • @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
    @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 4 роки тому

    Always such a pleasure to watch any of The HG's Videos with many thanks for his work~!!

  • @GrandpawTheGreat
    @GrandpawTheGreat 4 роки тому +2

    The History Guy does an excellent job of telling interesting stories that truly brings history to life.

  • @trooperdgb9722
    @trooperdgb9722 4 роки тому +2

    My Uncle was a Wireless Operator Air Gunner in Liberators operating from Ireland. Like many Coastal Command crews he never saw or attacked a submarine on those numbingly long missions ...but it is entirely ltrue that the mere PRESENCE of those aircraft contributed to keeping submarines "down"...where they were slow and ineffective. He ended up with a commission... reached the rank of Flying Officer and was "Squadron Gunnery Officer".

  • @dhession64
    @dhession64 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent installment, HG. RIP, Mr. Trigg, and all the crew of your plane, as well as those lost on the U-boat. War is hell.

  • @byronbailey9229
    @byronbailey9229 4 роки тому +2

    Never knew this story yet I was a Navigator/Bombardier 1964-1967 on RNZAF Mark 5 Sunderlands with ASV 6 radar. To counter the ' fight back ' by the U boats some Sunderlands were equipped with fixed forward firing 20 mm cannon. This was suppressive fire by the pilot to enable the aircraft to complete the low level flyover with a straddle of the target with a stick of 250 ib torpex depth charges. This would crush the hull causing terminal damage. Brave men on both sides.

  • @12gauge1oz
    @12gauge1oz 4 роки тому +1

    What a great story! Thank you for telling about these epic acts.

  • @adamhuckfeldt2895
    @adamhuckfeldt2895 4 роки тому +7

    Great video and story. I love that part about the German officer saying the flight officer surely deserved honor for his actions. If you look throughout history you will find many stories where soldiers, airmen, and sailors recognized the bravery and honor of their enemy/ opposition. Just like the story of the British giving the Red Barron a hero's funeral, this is a story of honor among combatants. Thank you for sharing this story History Guy.

  • @RARDingo
    @RARDingo 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for this. I had not heard this story before & it is well worth the telling. For such small nations Australia & New Zealand have had more than their fair share of V.C. winners.

  • @freddymarcel-marcum6831
    @freddymarcel-marcum6831 4 роки тому +1

    My great uncle, Erich Weudermann was commander of the U-506, I never knew until about six months ago. He rests under the Bay Of Biscay to this day, but he wasn't a bad guy, he was known for rescuing sailors and once civilians from a transport. I learn more every so often about him.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 4 роки тому +1

    You got the story across fine....After all that is all anyone need to know...Thanks very much...!

  • @wrobinson7594
    @wrobinson7594 4 роки тому +25

    Lest we forget.

  • @willyeverlearn7052
    @willyeverlearn7052 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you again.

  • @brucemibus9523
    @brucemibus9523 4 роки тому +1

    True heroes are few and need to be remembered! Thanks for your efforts.

  • @GTVAlfaMan
    @GTVAlfaMan 4 роки тому +11

    I flew in US Navy S-2 Trackers, P-2V Neptunes, P-3C Orion and S-3A Viking Anti-Submarine patrol aircraft in the early 1970’s. We were always tracking Soviet Foxtrot, October, November and Echo II
    clas submarines in the Mediterranean sea near Sicily.

    • @johnemerson1363
      @johnemerson1363 4 роки тому +1

      You beat me. I flew in SP2H Neptunes out of Sigonella in the late 60's and P3B Orions in the 70's and 80, s out of Pt. Mugu California in the reserves. Never got close to an S2 or an S3. Chased Russian subs for over 20 years. God bless.

    • @GTVAlfaMan
      @GTVAlfaMan 4 роки тому +1

      John Emerson
      I was also stationed at TSC Sigonella for a few years in Sicily.
      I was an AW2 acoustic sensor operator, I don’t believe that rating exists anymore in the US Navy. Also, they are still using S2’s here to fight the California fires here.

    • @GTVAlfaMan
      @GTVAlfaMan 4 роки тому +1

      John Emerson
      I live near LA now and now work for a Fire Alarm company testing fire alarms. By coincidence I am working in Oxnard and Santa Barbara today, just minutes from Point Mugu.

    • @johnemerson1363
      @johnemerson1363 4 роки тому

      @@GTVAlfaMan I retired an AWCS (E8) in March 1994. I was also a Sensor 1 & 2 operator.

  • @Peter-bg5gy
    @Peter-bg5gy 4 роки тому +1

    What a story of determined heroism, surely you are right on, ‘deserves to be remembered’.

  • @mongolike513
    @mongolike513 4 роки тому +1

    Dear HG my dad flew Sunderlands with 461RAAF out of Pembroke Dock and managed to bring about the destruction of U270 in August 44, I really appreciate your histories. Interestingly during the ‘fight out on the surface ‘ period, a Sunderland from my father’s squadron, coded U 461, sank the Kriegsmarine U-461 in quite a battle where three Uboats had been caught on the surface and were holding about three aircraft at bay until Dudley Marrows set up and completed his attack.

  • @susanwahl6322
    @susanwahl6322 3 роки тому

    During this time of upheaval, your videos are a welcome relief.

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 4 роки тому

    That is the most moving story I have heard on this channel. Thank you for video.

  • @mrcarlo1966
    @mrcarlo1966 4 роки тому

    Excellent narrative .Thank you for bringing this hero’s story to us.

  • @BillHalliwell
    @BillHalliwell 4 роки тому +6

    G'day THG, Flying Officer Trigg VC of the RNZAF is the perfect example of selfless dedication that personifies all the qualities of a genuine hero. Hero is a term that is applied far too often these days, even used in descriptions of over-performing athletes. Flg.Off. Trigg and his crew acknowledging that they were most probably going to die; took the true heroic path and, one would guess, unanimously, decide that they complete their mission come 'Hell or high water'. This is, after all, the reason one enlists, wears the uniform and trains to achieve the goal of defeating the enemy. As a former member of the RAAF, I salute Flg.Off. Trigg VC and his crew.
    I would also like to thank you, 'L', for telling this important piece of WW2 history. Even though I know I will be criticised for saying this but too often military documentary makers either totally ignore the sacrifices of Australian and New Zealand's forces or merely refer to them, in passing, as "Allied (or Commonwealth) forces...". Cheers, BH

    • @paulbrimble8204
      @paulbrimble8204 4 роки тому +3

      I used to work for his son John mowing verges (berms?) in Ellerslie, Auckland, NZ after I finished secondary school and before studying. John never said a word about his dad or the VC. Bloody hard worker.

    • @byronbailey9229
      @byronbailey9229 4 роки тому +2

      Also add in the Canadian and Indian Commonwealth forces huge contribution to the war effort that does not get the recognition it deserves

    • @BillHalliwell
      @BillHalliwell 4 роки тому +1

      @@byronbailey9229 G'day Byron, Yes, sorry, my mistake. 'All Commonwealth forces...' would have been a more appropriate phrase. I totally agree with you. Cheers, BH

  • @davidstoyanoff
    @davidstoyanoff 4 роки тому

    An epic story with a marvelous twist! You can't make this stuff up. Well done history guy

  • @stevemowat4294
    @stevemowat4294 4 роки тому

    As a Kiwi, and a flyer I am very proud of dedicated officers like Flying Officer Trigg and his crew, along with many others who served and sacrificed.. We will remember them.

  • @k8zhd
    @k8zhd 4 роки тому +4

    The more I learn about the Battle of the Atlantic the more fascinating it becomes! Thanks for filling in more gaps in my knowledge. Now I'm going to have to find some books on Coastal Command.

  • @petesmusic6648
    @petesmusic6648 5 місяців тому

    Excellent work my friend , just had to subscribe to the channel . Thanks a lot for taking the time to present your work so well , it’s well appreciated 🙏

  • @cme2cau
    @cme2cau 3 роки тому

    I was in Pembroke Dock, Wales, UK in 2016. This was a base for Short Sunderland flying boats during WW2, flying ASW and air sea rescue among other duties. In Pembroke Dock they have a Sunderland museum and the Shipwright Inn has a bunch of memorabilia.

  • @KelleyWilliams
    @KelleyWilliams Рік тому

    I have a friend named Richie. Last name, from Clovis California. He won 2 purple hearts in less than 48 hr. He would be a great person to be remembered

  • @davidstewart8796
    @davidstewart8796 3 роки тому +1

    one of the names on my local war memorial died on HMS Penelope. Interesting video keep them coming

  • @dennisammann9104
    @dennisammann9104 4 роки тому

    Just another GREAT account of submarines and destroyers at war, but this time the airborne aviation arm. A fitting tribute to Pilot Officer Lloyd Trigg, RNZAF. Thanks History Guy 🙂

  • @Chris_at_Home
    @Chris_at_Home 4 роки тому

    Great story. There are so many heroes who gave it all for our freedom. I served in a VP Squadron in the early 70s as did my older brother 7 years before me. The other brother was a submariner.

  • @bryansmith1920
    @bryansmith1920 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you That story bought a tear to my eye "For Everyone that puts themselves in HARMS way"

  • @aprylrittenhouse4562
    @aprylrittenhouse4562 4 роки тому

    The story as only you can tell it HG is heartwrenching to say the least. Thank you once again

  • @brianswan3559
    @brianswan3559 4 роки тому

    Many thanks.
    My mother was in 206 sqn Coastal Command. St Eval, Cornwall.

  • @douglasherron7534
    @douglasherron7534 4 роки тому +1

    Bit surprised that the Short Sunderland flying boat is only mentioned as an aside in connection with the U468 sinking. It must be the most famous, and most recognisable, Coastal Command aircraft of WW2...

    • @SPQRTempus
      @SPQRTempus Рік тому

      The Sunderland story I remember is one of an Australian crew who successfully fought off no less than 8 Junkers Ju-88's. They disappeared without trace on a subsequent mission.

  • @truthseeker9454
    @truthseeker9454 4 роки тому

    Many thanks for finding and sharing this poignant story. Liked. And for having the humility and integrity to correct your mistakes. Subbed.

  • @lancetuckey6403
    @lancetuckey6403 4 роки тому +3

    Love your work......

  • @zam6877
    @zam6877 Рік тому

    In high school, I discovered this autobiography of a U-boat commander
    He described everytime surfacing...been hit by airplanes...so much so that he thought the radar detector (described here) was giving away his position
    I have been looking for some testimony about this subject...thanks history guy!

  • @Sophia-io8qg
    @Sophia-io8qg 3 роки тому +1

    My father John Pat left 238 Sqdn (hurricanes) for 120 after the Battle of Britton. Initially they flew Sunderland flying boats then to LB30 Mark I (B24B, short nose without superchargers) followed by the Mark II (B24D) the Mark III (B24J). These were the aircraft and men that closed the Atlantic gap.

  • @David.Anderson
    @David.Anderson 4 роки тому +2

    I love this history channel

  • @johndemeritt3460
    @johndemeritt3460 4 роки тому +1

    History Guy, have you ever done an episode on the Escort or "Jeep" carriers? I've read Adm. Daniel Gallery's fascinating account of the capture of U-505, and I think this is certainly history that deserves to be remembered!

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  4 роки тому +1

      I have not yet done an episode on the capture of U-505. I did talk about the development of escort carriers and hunter-killer groups in this episode: ua-cam.com/video/YIBF4HwtANA/v-deo.html

    • @johndemeritt3460
      @johndemeritt3460 4 роки тому

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel, thanks for the information! I'll look forward to an episode on U-505, but in the meantime, I'll go look up the episode on the escort carriers..

  • @hyfy-tr2jy
    @hyfy-tr2jy 4 роки тому +13

    THG.... I hope your UA-cam journey has helped you achieve all your dreams. I have been with you before you were at 20K subs and have enjoyed watching your growth and success on here

  • @mikelatta484
    @mikelatta484 4 роки тому +1

    Great content as always. I do miss your C3PO.

  • @franknicholson6108
    @franknicholson6108 4 роки тому +1

    Such unique stories that come from conflict. Deavloping tech and dogged determination is usually a bad situation for the enemy. Thanks again for the excellent history lesson once again.

  • @FarkyDave
    @FarkyDave 4 роки тому +2

    Really cool story! Thanks.

  • @pilgrimpaulo
    @pilgrimpaulo 3 роки тому

    Very snappy and honouring to all the brave combatants