YO PEEP THAT NEW THUMBNAIL ART THAT’S A FIRE CHANGE but also yeah Springtrap he ain’t fine to me….but Vanny…oh now that’s a killer bunny in this franchise who definitely is fine 🥰
I mean Benedict do got that voice on him. Voices are a really important part of attraction for me tbh Although I dont find springtrap attractive the whole child murder is kind of a turn off for me lol
A potential reason why Springtrapped Afton couldn't leave the safe room could be because the suits programming is preventing him from leaving, since all the animatronics cannot enter the safe room. So maybe he'd just be there twitching like in the trailer cuz he can't move.
19:19 I think there’s a possibility that Burntrap is doing a Golden Freddy. It is William’s body but he’s a little ghosty and teleporty now like Golden Freddy. Golden Freddy doesn’t act like any other haunted animatronic. It makes visions, flashes, it flickers in and out of sight, it’s weird. So maybe the original idea was Springtrap was watching Gregory and would sometimes be found around a corner and disappear before you could see him properly. Not a hallucination but physical and able to vanish
42:20 Into the Pit give us a clue that FNAF 3 is post 2015 if you believe the game is canon. In one of the abandoned room of the school there is a calendar that's days line up with 2018. The room has been abandoned for 3 years due to the Mill closure. This puts the year of Into the Pit in 2021. Jeffs pizza contains the Arcade cabinet that we later see in Fazbear’s Fright and some of the posters. And while I do agree the posters could just be Easter Eggs, the game cabinet is something in the game we interact with making me think it's more then a simple Easter Egg. Anyway, if Into the Pit is in 2021 and stuff from Jeff's ends up in Fazbear’s Fright, FNAF 3 has to be post 2021.
My guess is that the secret of the mimic is that William had a mimic he trained to act like him. Either in order to become immortal by digitizing himself, or to have a perfect protoge for his ego or whatever else. And eventually it did something horrible, because it was trained on a serial killer (before he killed anyone but still a psychopath) and was turned off. Eventually it was found and uploaded to make glitch trap explaining what the deal with glitch trap is and why it mimics afton and specifically in the old costume it otherwise wouldn't have seen.
If Andrew latched onto William when he took spare parts from Golden Freddy, maybe Cassidy didn't go with him, and was instead just left alone inside GF from then on? That would explain how GF and Fetch could be possessed at the same time, because the part of GF containing Cassidy was never in the FNaF 6 fire, leaving her stuck in GF alone. The GF sprite in that Fetch minigame even looks like his muzzle has been removed, leaving a gaping hole for a mouth in its place, which lends credence to the idea that that's how Andrew snuck into William's soul or whatever. This, combined with the fact that we have other reasons to believe that Cassidy could potentially still be around in the Pizzaplex era, really makes it seem pretty plausible, even likely, that Andrew left GF to go torment William and was present for the fire (despite it clearly not being enough to stop him), while Cassidy was absent for the whole thing and continued to haunt GF in the background for decades.
I don’t usually comment on videos or anything but I just wanted to say that I really rock with you Toast. Your videos are good and entertaining and I watch them every night before I go to sleep. Keep uploading bro we love you
Here’s my issue if burntrap isn’t real, what would the put of having vanny going down to fnaf 6? Like if she didn’t know about the mimic why go down to that place. Glitch trap must be Willam in some way and want his body back.
So, I think we often sort of miss a bit of info if we use the books. The Henry stand in can make Animatronics fairly easily. And that form of life could be what makes William thinks he wants
Ok this is a reply to a comment instead of a regular comment (and I don't want to post a second regular comment) so you're probably not gonna see this, but I really want to say this 7:53 8:49 How on earth is Burntrap's appearance (an animatronic similar to Springtrap but with a glamrock endoskeleton and purple and black eyes) a hallucination through Gregory's perspective, if Burntrap also has that same appearance while he's on camera with the security cameras and that live footage is displayed on not only the three big 90s screens in the office room, but also on your fazwatch as well? Hallucinations and illusions don't make any sense via images or videos, meaning that what's on raw images and videos is real. So if Burntrap's appearance (again, an animatronic similar to Springtrap but with a glamrock endoskeleton and purple and black eyes) is like that in videos captured by cameras and displayed on screens, then that's Burntrap's real appearance. I'm pretty sure even in the novel trilogy (I think specifically the Fourth Closet), something similar happens regarding adult Charlotte (who's also Circus Baby) and some photographs. She uses sound illusion discs to disguise herself to look even more like adult Charlotte, but she was on camera with an instant camera and the photo that camera took of her shows her real appearance as Circus Baby
I got so excited to see this episode because the question I recently submitted would fit perfectly! Sadly it was prerecorded, but my question was about William possibly escaping UCN due to his voice lines from Special Delivery
Things I think. 1. I hear a lot of people say that Michael was helping William up until after his death in sister location, and considering that William was literally the Founder/CEO of his own Company (Afton Robotics LLC) and he had workers go to the Rental Facility I think it’s safe to say that William May have had Accomplices helping him commit his Crimes either being Higher ups at his company or standard Staff whether Intentionally or Unaware. 2. A recent idea I started having is that William Created Circus Baby’s Pizza World much around the time of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza but after becoming a Serial Killer/Mad Scientist he Repurposed the Funtimes into Kidnapping and Killing Machines. 3. Another recent idea I’ve been thinking of is why William Killed Charlotte, In the Silver Eyes Trilogy William has something of a Unhealthy Obsession and Resentment towards Henry, in the Fnaf 6 Minigame with the Security Puppet we see that it’s Prime Directive is to Watch over and Protect Charlie, Henry would only need to build a Protective Animatronic if he knew kids were in danger, so what if Charlie’s death came after the MCI, another idea I like is that William Possibly manipulated Henry into helping him Either build or turn the Funtimes into Capturing/Killing Machines but William knew that if he was gonna convince Henry to do this then Henry would need his own Motivation and so he Kills Charlie as to get Henry to help him. 4. I think during Secret of the Mimic we could possibly get a small glimpse in what caused Afton to become the way he did, whether it be something he did or what someone else caused that changed him. 5. I think it’s possible that Michael want the only one experiencing the Nightmare Chambers, like Rory in the books William may have captured many different people and begin doing Fear Experiments as a way to study Agony and perhaps Gaslight his Victims into Trusting him. 6. I agree with your idea of William always being somewhat a lose screw, to me I think William has some sort of Antisocial Personality Disorder that makes him Narcissistic and Apathetic and either Sociopathic or Psychopathic, they should either make a game or book about William’s Past maybe his childhood, I also agree that William does not love his kids in the way a father should, he himself probably believes he’s a good and caring father but he only sees his Family as Tools and Belongings.
39:03 I don’t think William can do it in fnaf 1 because phone guy dies, but in fnaf 3 0hone guys talks about sealing the backrooms up and on night 1 phone dude mentions there was a hidden room that was sealed up. And on night 2 they found springtrap. So follow me can’t be after fnaf 1
Hear me out here: I kinda think Balloon Boy was meant to be an in-universe arcade game character at first. BB's Air Adventure was one thing, but then there's also several arcade games involving him in Into the Pit, before he should've existed as a physical animatronic. He also has that minigame all the way forwards in Security Breach, LONG after he's retired as a character. It'd explain his status as a human child, he was meant to be a self insert for kids playing games at Fazbear's arcade. They probably just made him a real animatronic because he got popular. This also goes a long way towards explaining JJ's existence, with her possibly just being a player 2 character in some of these games, an alt for any girl customers, or the lead in her own spinoff games (sort of like a Ms Pac Man situation) I'm fully aware this idea is super inconsequential, but Idk, I like it
I know I'm bias but I'm still very satisfied with my solution to Andrew and The One You Should Not Have Killed dilemma as a whole. I think simply: 1) Cassidy is The One You Should Not Have Killed during Ultimate Custom Night 2) Other spirits are also present because they were held back by Cassidy (as indicated by Withered Bonnie & The Puppet) 3) Happiest Day happens and all the spirits move on (Cassidy either included with them or moves on due to Old Man Consequences) 4) Andrew was also among the spirits but he didn't move on, that's because he's there because he was attached to William Afton rather than being held back by Cassidy 5) Andrew is the last remaining spirit of UCN, which is what I think The Man In Room 1280 is - A continuation & expansion of UCN rather than literally UCN at the time of that game.
I wanted to add something to the last question: Since I believe Jeremy Fitzgerald ISN'T Michael Afton (TWB pretty much confirmed it) I think it's him getting the memories of Gabriel like you said, but the scrapped Frights story "You're The Band" also seems to imply that this can happen with Freddy masks.
So thinking about Help Wanted and what they said about the indie developer is it possible that FNAF 1 and 2 minus the mini games doesnt exsist. That what we saw was a hallucination of the developer who would be given a Vanni mask. It would just make sense. Giving us 4 to show us where Michael was, Sister Location to give us those 20 to 30 years Michael was being puppeted, we go to 3 which shows William's freedom, and 6 to show the deaths of everyone and the end. Thus starting the Era of the Mimic
I don't believe that Andrew is Golden Freddy. I think the simpler answer to ucn and what's happing with Cassidy and Andrew is that they are both their even if Cassidy is there to stop Andrew from keeping William alive or another reason it seem their both their from the games and books. In the OMC easter egg Cassidy is told to rest her soul and leave the demon to his demons which connects to that finally cutscene we get of Cassidy listening to omcs advice and moving on instead of trying to stop andrew. But even though Cassidy moved on Afton's torture continues which leaves us with the questions like who toyshnk, whos controlling ucn and what's happening to afton which are answered in frights. TMIR280 tells us that Andrew is most likely toysnhk not only by matching the gender but having him keep Afton in this coma like state to continue his torture. I just think its simpler for them to be separate characters with separates goals in the same place Cassidy wanting to kill William and Andrew wanting to keep him alive to suffer
I think you’re cooking with the whole “I’ll kill Charlie to get Henry on board to build the funtimes”. It could even be after the MCI to align with the graves in HW2, William killed Susie out of maybe grief for CC, noticed chica was off after, rest of the kids were killed, he needed more bodies to experiment with remnant so he needed Henry’s help, so he killed Charlie. “The wound first inflicted on me” from Henry could even be from what CC saw when he was locked in back room with the guy we saw afton put the golden Bonnie head on spring locked and dead from bleeding out in the back room like phone guy says, Henry took it hard since it was his design for the suits
41:00 - Ish. The sealing arguments are cool and all, except the FNAF3 phone dude explicitly says that they had to unseal a hidden room to get to Afton. Unless the ghosts built it, there is no way he wasn't sealed inside after FNAF1
I see a lot of people wondering why he would jump immediately to possession, but if we suppose he's got a screw loose from the beginning, it's possible he already had knowledge of the occult to a degree.
Hey Rye! TerrminalError had a great video a couple weeks ago, pulling stuff from the week before and one of his ideas were that Ralph was Old Man Consequences and it sounds pretty factual I definitely recommend checking it out!!
i think it makes more sense that Baby's Pizza World closes because *Henry* knows that they got Elizabeth killed, rather than William cancelling the project just because he lost another child (since that would necessitate him caring about Elizabeth. She seems to think he does though idk). But yeah, with Henry involved, he can't blatantly continue the project without shaking Henry's trust in him. Without Henry involved and with seemingly nobody knowing how Elizabeth died, why cancel the project when it's working as intended?
We do see Burntrap in-person. When he moves from room to room, we can see him down the hallways. Not that that disproves the hallucination angle, but Gregory doesn't see him exclusively thru monitors.
10:00 what about the scratch marks that line up with Burntraps right hand The thumb and middle finger are blunt like his Nightmare BB fingers and the rest are sharp, matching up with his hand
I would like to counter and say that FnaF 3's timeline does matter. Obviously we're not given a specified amount of time between FnaF 3 and FnaF 6, but the FnaF 3 takes place the later we have to place Security Breach, which leads to a lot of theorists saying that the timelines between Tales From the Pizzaplex (such as the early timeline of the mimic, Edwin's age, etc) have too long of a gap or that the dates don't line up. HOWEVER if FnaF 3 is earlier, then maybe they don't all line up still but they might be closer to the point that it could be a math error and not a continuity issue
Golden Freddy in the Fetch minigame could possibly just be Andrew's agony. We know from the stingers and the end of TMIR1280, that agony was spread around. From fnaf AR and pressure, we also know that there are duplicate Golden Freddy suits made, so it's entirely possible that there was a GF suit in the distributuon centre
I do find Benedict Cumberbatch attractive, not just his voice. More than as an actor, it's events in his life and what he took away from them that make me go: "I love you, you beautiful human being🥲" and becomes attractive in a way that will stay into old age.
I do Theorize that Vengeful Spirit is Cassidy, And Andrew and Jake Do exist, they're a Separate thing that happens. As much Evidence as BurnTrap could be a Hallucination, I think that Because Beating 50/20 is Possible, Golden Freddy Freddy Fading away,(what looks like against his will) William is Free, and Possess the AI He made long ago, And That's what got Scanned My hope is Burntrap's Not a Hallucination, Because that just feels Too Cheap of an answer, Because otherwise Why Did Vanny, go Down there? If it was to Serve The Mimic... Why would The Very same be Left Down there? Bring Freddy with her. As for how Gregory Not only saw them, but took the time to draw them, I Theorize Gregory could actually Still Be GGY, Where if Vanessa isn't aware she turns into Vanny, Could the Same be applied to GGY and Gregory?
that weird moment when Gregory is in glamrock Freddy charging station & sees vanny while Freddy cant- is that his occipital nerve chip seeing vanny in the god forsaken AR world?
Going with the burntrap is real or not question in Security Breach it is difficult. 1. It is implied Gregory had a Vanni Mask. This gives users a node in their mind. This means everything is up to debate because reality and artificial reality are being overlayed in the user's mind. 2. The only person we know of who saw Springtrap was the nightguard FNAF 3 and FNAF 6. We believe both are Michael who we also know was effected by the scooper and spiritual stuff. Devil's advocate is that we have a photo showing spring trap escaped the fire. 3. We have too many ways to discredit everything seen in every game.
I'm inclined to think that GGY and Ruins suggestion that Gregory perception is questionable is Scot Coffins fix for the errors the he talked about in the Doggo interview. Errors he outright said that he wasn't going to make none cannon but will now have to work around to get the story back on track. I don't like it as a solution like you said it's Pandora's box that he can't close now that it's opened (and unfortunately ruins has already opened that box) but I still think it's what Scot Coffin is going for.
What if... Andrew is an alias that Cassidy uses in the books? I know this came out of nowhere, but if you disagree, I really want to know what could be against that. Also, when I was first introduced to the series, I had always thought that the Toy animatronics had their criminal databases hacked or something, and that's why they attack our main character. But this was also the time where I kept mixing up the Rockstar and Glamrock animatronics, so whatever.
Imo burn trap was supposed to be digital only. It would line up with why gregory eyes flicker when vanny goes by. He is NOT a robot but human with pieces of the VR headset
I need to relocate the info to verify it, but I saw somewhere that when FNaF1 was made, he didn't know that charged and convicted meant different things and both were supposed to mean charged
Keep in mind that we should NOT be using things like "In the interview, he wasn't SUPPOSED TO MOVE..." as evidence. Because that same interview Scott also said the choices made in Security Breach are cannon, regardless of intent, and he is moving forward/making changes that work with it.
You said "hissing sound" and something in my laundry room started hissing. I thought at first that you'd put an edit in, but then it kept going so I paused the video and it was definitely not you. Wild coincidence.
Ive been thinking the same thing for ages. Stitchline games just doesn't work. I know emotionally people want them to because it gives a bigger story. But Andrew has never been mentioned, in game, and we have been given other names hinted as golden freddy. None of which are Andrew. I think matpat had ot years ago when he said, the books arnt part of the games, but give us the rules and ideas of the game world flushes out in a book, like remnant and agony. Only books i can ever see being in the game world, are the game books, which works because, hey, they are games too
i think the fact that you were originally only gonna see burntrap through a wall or something implies it’s aftons corpse. and that’s why he’s not moving. i don’t think afton would’ve been alive i think it would afton postfire being dead and lifeless
If we can't trust Gregory' POV ...whose to say the PizzaPlex was even operational during SB? In that i mean , this company that has a history of kids going missing is probably going to be the prime suspect anytime large amounts of people go missing. And theyve had A LOT of employees go missing , So what if its the 'we're closed but we still wanna accomodate this one last party ' thing again. And thats when a Freddy went outbut we have no way to know the game took place a IMMEDIATELY after. Since im positive freddy would have webt to Parts & services FIRST to be checked out where they had to force a reboot and where i think gregory snuck into his stomach hatch. So i think The animatronics werent slowly withering throughout the course of the game .
I mean could be that he did not have full control of the suit as he is slumped over almost as if in off mode and is bound to obey the programing in Fnaf 3
19:00 I might have an idea. What if burntrap was just standing there and not moving, like Scott said. THEN the Blob moved there hence why Gregory saw both of them next to each other and it grabbed Burntrap or rather whats left of aftons body and left
This is kind of what I was thinking. I think based on scotts interview that burntraps body was always suppossed to be in the blob, which is why the blob grabs him in the burntrap ending, and why I think they show the blob in ruin, to show it was real while scott tried to fix the security breach lore with ruin
Does Rye still upload the podcast to Spotify? I started listening to all of them a few weeks ago and noticed that the newest one is from the end of October. Just wanted to check where I can continue listening!
10:42 You say that when the most straightforward explanation is that when they call it "augmented reality" or "AR" which could also stand for "alternate reality" they mean it literally and it's a different plane of existance that we can access through thecnology Remember what was stated in fnaf world "everything that happens out there has an effect in here"
I have an important question re: Sister Location, if anyone feels inclined to answer. When Baby says they've left before but always get brought back, is she talking about being rented out for events?
11:30 on the subject of Golden Freddy being the vengeful spirit may i direct you to the novel version of the Fnaf movie specifically the epilogue. The epilogue is the scene with golden freddy and William after he got springlocked and the description of the scene is very very interesting and i feel like it will affect your perspective on the "Who is the vengeful spirit" dilemma.
@@Wizardjones69I've heard of UCN duo and I have a lot of problems with it. Also the novel of the movie describes the blond boy leaving the room as him sealing William into a black prison and right before that the novel said that the boy took satisfaction in William's pain and wanted his suffering to go on as long as possible so. I really really doubt he moved on and let William die.
I saw this as Cassidy giving up on saving Andrew, leaving the demon to his demons and having her happiest day. This is why we see a kid with an alligator mask in colour in happiest day as opposed to the kids who move on being in black and white. Andrew is still attached to the world and Cassidy had to give up on helping him. I find this more consistent with how Cassidy is shown in the logbook as a spirit kind of helping Dave adjust to the animatronic afterlife.
also this brings up the question? Why the hell is the MCI kid the one asking the CC questions when the CC has been dead for two years? Like wouldn't the CC understand why he can't see and such at that point?
I do like this theory because we are told that some Frights will be "connected to the games" and I can't see Man in Room 1280 not being one of those if that is the case. Also in Security Breach we see an alligator who is very angry and specifically hates the Bunny who happens to die in a backroom with wet floors.
Hey are you still going to play into the pit on console live, I saw you were in October but it got delayed it would be a nice to chat with viewers as well. I want to know your thoughts on the console port.
@@wolfietronic356 Wasn't he just standing and looking through the window? That's not necesserily mimicking. He is in the Game and looks at Tape Girl's Avatar.
So I've tried to keep up to date with most of the lore over the past 10 years, but what in god's name is the Afton Nightmare Chamber and why does Michael keep getting locked inside 😭
here is my stance, it is incredibly reckless for one to put out a timeline like this while knowing there is something upcoming that might ruin it. if it is just a random game you dont expect to be inportant fine, but if you are thinking to yourself, game might be important, wait until game, aim to get it out before next announcement, if possible without affecting quality.
I do kinda feel like there's less background noise with the new setup? I didn't really notice anything before, but now I have the distinct sense that the only sound is your voice.
DCI definitely happened as a separate murder incident. Phone Guy talks about recent rumors and later investigation and lockdown of the restaurant happened. Also someone used the yellow suit. There is a theory that DCI never happened but Cassidy was killed at FNaF 2 location and that's why there is an investigation. I don't think that's the case however. I personally would not add another child victims that are forgotten after this game.
Hey man, whenever an artist has a good style, anything can be attractive
I hate how fitting that username is for this comment....
Knowing from experience....
Bold of you to assume I don't find Springtrap physically attractive.
I was thinking the same thing
You know I pretend to be better but if he wasn't an actual rotting corpse I'd probably have the hots for him as well. (It's the eyes)
@@TheMikl123his eyes are terrifying 😭🙏🏿
@@thabsoffical.-8742 yet alluring😏
You probably also like Benedict Cumberbatch
The out of pocket cold open is WILD! 💀
YO PEEP THAT NEW THUMBNAIL ART THAT’S A FIRE CHANGE but also yeah Springtrap he ain’t fine to me….but Vanny…oh now that’s a killer bunny in this franchise who definitely is fine 🥰
Real
I mean Benedict do got that voice on him.
Voices are a really important part of attraction for me tbh
Although I dont find springtrap attractive the whole child murder is kind of a turn off for me lol
A potential reason why Springtrapped Afton couldn't leave the safe room could be because the suits programming is preventing him from leaving, since all the animatronics cannot enter the safe room. So maybe he'd just be there twitching like in the trailer cuz he can't move.
The safe room is opened by outside as said by pressure
19:19 I think there’s a possibility that Burntrap is doing a Golden Freddy. It is William’s body but he’s a little ghosty and teleporty now like Golden Freddy. Golden Freddy doesn’t act like any other haunted animatronic. It makes visions, flashes, it flickers in and out of sight, it’s weird.
So maybe the original idea was Springtrap was watching Gregory and would sometimes be found around a corner and disappear before you could see him properly. Not a hallucination but physical and able to vanish
42:20 Into the Pit give us a clue that FNAF 3 is post 2015 if you believe the game is canon.
In one of the abandoned room of the school there is a calendar that's days line up with 2018. The room has been abandoned for 3 years due to the Mill closure. This puts the year of Into the Pit in 2021.
Jeffs pizza contains the Arcade cabinet that we later see in Fazbear’s Fright and some of the posters. And while I do agree the posters could just be Easter Eggs, the game cabinet is something in the game we interact with making me think it's more then a simple Easter Egg.
Anyway, if Into the Pit is in 2021 and stuff from Jeff's ends up in Fazbear’s Fright, FNAF 3 has to be post 2021.
Into the pit isn't canon
The "30 years later" feels fairly obvious to me as being in reference to the MCI, which Into the Pit further confirms as being in 1985
@@c.r.blankenship9040 The source code for Scottgames outright says FNAF 1 30 years laters.
@@c.r.blankenship9040 The Scottgames Website code directly said FNAF 3 is 30 years after the game Five Nights at Freddy's.
@@jeremymorris345I’ve seen the quote, it doesn’t really
My guess is that the secret of the mimic is that William had a mimic he trained to act like him. Either in order to become immortal by digitizing himself, or to have a perfect protoge for his ego or whatever else. And eventually it did something horrible, because it was trained on a serial killer (before he killed anyone but still a psychopath) and was turned off. Eventually it was found and uploaded to make glitch trap explaining what the deal with glitch trap is and why it mimics afton and specifically in the old costume it otherwise wouldn't have seen.
This is also my theory.
If Andrew latched onto William when he took spare parts from Golden Freddy, maybe Cassidy didn't go with him, and was instead just left alone inside GF from then on? That would explain how GF and Fetch could be possessed at the same time, because the part of GF containing Cassidy was never in the FNaF 6 fire, leaving her stuck in GF alone. The GF sprite in that Fetch minigame even looks like his muzzle has been removed, leaving a gaping hole for a mouth in its place, which lends credence to the idea that that's how Andrew snuck into William's soul or whatever. This, combined with the fact that we have other reasons to believe that Cassidy could potentially still be around in the Pizzaplex era, really makes it seem pretty plausible, even likely, that Andrew left GF to go torment William and was present for the fire (despite it clearly not being enough to stop him), while Cassidy was absent for the whole thing and continued to haunt GF in the background for decades.
The audio defo sounds clearer and the new thumbnail looks so good!
Interesting point that William might be around during the day in FNAF 2. If true, he and Michael are monitoring the animatronics at nearly all times.
I don’t usually comment on videos or anything but I just wanted to say that I really rock with you Toast. Your videos are good and entertaining and I watch them every night before I go to sleep. Keep uploading bro we love you
Here’s my issue if burntrap isn’t real, what would the put of having vanny going down to fnaf 6? Like if she didn’t know about the mimic why go down to that place. Glitch trap must be Willam in some way and want his body back.
Ooo loving the thumbnail!
So, I think we often sort of miss a bit of info if we use the books. The Henry stand in can make Animatronics fairly easily. And that form of life could be what makes William thinks he wants
This audio is surprisingly clearer on my end of things. Nice.
I love the new thumbnail background!
New thumbnail style ayo?!?!?!
Ok this is a reply to a comment instead of a regular comment (and I don't want to post a second regular comment) so you're probably not gonna see this, but I really want to say this
7:53 8:49 How on earth is Burntrap's appearance (an animatronic similar to Springtrap but with a glamrock endoskeleton and purple and black eyes) a hallucination through Gregory's perspective, if Burntrap also has that same appearance while he's on camera with the security cameras and that live footage is displayed on not only the three big 90s screens in the office room, but also on your fazwatch as well? Hallucinations and illusions don't make any sense via images or videos, meaning that what's on raw images and videos is real. So if Burntrap's appearance (again, an animatronic similar to Springtrap but with a glamrock endoskeleton and purple and black eyes) is like that in videos captured by cameras and displayed on screens, then that's Burntrap's real appearance. I'm pretty sure even in the novel trilogy (I think specifically the Fourth Closet), something similar happens regarding adult Charlotte (who's also Circus Baby) and some photographs. She uses sound illusion discs to disguise herself to look even more like adult Charlotte, but she was on camera with an instant camera and the photo that camera took of her shows her real appearance as Circus Baby
I got so excited to see this episode because the question I recently submitted would fit perfectly! Sadly it was prerecorded, but my question was about William possibly escaping UCN due to his voice lines from Special Delivery
Oh, I did not know you took the T emu ad out. Thank you for that, proud of you. It would have been so much easier to leave in
lovin this new thumbnail style, almost thought it was a new series at first
Ya know just my most listened to podcast
Mic and interface sound ok. You might want to cut the low end, your Bs and Ps are thumping with bass but not that bad
Things I think.
1. I hear a lot of people say that Michael was helping William up until after his death in sister location, and considering that William was literally the Founder/CEO of his own Company (Afton Robotics LLC) and he had workers go to the Rental Facility I think it’s safe to say that William May have had Accomplices helping him commit his Crimes either being Higher ups at his company or standard Staff whether Intentionally or Unaware.
2. A recent idea I started having is that William Created Circus Baby’s Pizza World much around the time of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza but after becoming a Serial Killer/Mad Scientist he Repurposed the Funtimes into Kidnapping and Killing Machines.
3. Another recent idea I’ve been thinking of is why William Killed Charlotte, In the Silver Eyes Trilogy William has something of a Unhealthy Obsession and Resentment towards Henry, in the Fnaf 6 Minigame with the Security Puppet we see that it’s Prime Directive is to Watch over and Protect Charlie, Henry would only need to build a Protective Animatronic if he knew kids were in danger, so what if Charlie’s death came after the MCI, another idea I like is that William Possibly manipulated Henry into helping him Either build or turn the Funtimes into Capturing/Killing Machines but William knew that if he was gonna convince Henry to do this then Henry would need his own Motivation and so he Kills Charlie as to get Henry to help him.
4. I think during Secret of the Mimic we could possibly get a small glimpse in what caused Afton to become the way he did, whether it be something he did or what someone else caused that changed him.
5. I think it’s possible that Michael want the only one experiencing the Nightmare Chambers, like Rory in the books William may have captured many different people and begin doing Fear Experiments as a way to study Agony and perhaps Gaslight his Victims into Trusting him.
6. I agree with your idea of William always being somewhat a lose screw, to me I think William has some sort of Antisocial Personality Disorder that makes him Narcissistic and Apathetic and either Sociopathic or Psychopathic, they should either make a game or book about William’s Past maybe his childhood, I also agree that William does not love his kids in the way a father should, he himself probably believes he’s a good and caring father but he only sees his Family as Tools and Belongings.
still clean sounding and clear
i definitely heard your kids playing before you mentioned it hahaha, so cute!!!
8:05 - Or maybe it was unfinished vanny's project when she was collecting parts for rebuild the body or something
sound quality top notch
39:03 I don’t think William can do it in fnaf 1 because phone guy dies, but in fnaf 3 0hone guys talks about sealing the backrooms up and on night 1 phone dude mentions there was a hidden room that was sealed up. And on night 2 they found springtrap. So follow me can’t be after fnaf 1
Hear me out here: I kinda think Balloon Boy was meant to be an in-universe arcade game character at first. BB's Air Adventure was one thing, but then there's also several arcade games involving him in Into the Pit, before he should've existed as a physical animatronic. He also has that minigame all the way forwards in Security Breach, LONG after he's retired as a character.
It'd explain his status as a human child, he was meant to be a self insert for kids playing games at Fazbear's arcade. They probably just made him a real animatronic because he got popular.
This also goes a long way towards explaining JJ's existence, with her possibly just being a player 2 character in some of these games, an alt for any girl customers, or the lead in her own spinoff games (sort of like a Ms Pac Man situation)
I'm fully aware this idea is super inconsequential, but Idk, I like it
I know I'm bias but I'm still very satisfied with my solution to Andrew and The One You Should Not Have Killed dilemma as a whole.
I think simply:
1) Cassidy is The One You Should Not Have Killed during Ultimate Custom Night
2) Other spirits are also present because they were held back by Cassidy (as indicated by Withered Bonnie & The Puppet)
3) Happiest Day happens and all the spirits move on (Cassidy either included with them or moves on due to Old Man Consequences)
4) Andrew was also among the spirits but he didn't move on, that's because he's there because he was attached to William Afton rather than being held back by Cassidy
5) Andrew is the last remaining spirit of UCN, which is what I think The Man In Room 1280 is - A continuation & expansion of UCN rather than literally UCN at the time of that game.
I wanted to add something to the last question: Since I believe Jeremy Fitzgerald ISN'T Michael Afton (TWB pretty much confirmed it) I think it's him getting the memories of Gabriel like you said, but the scrapped Frights story "You're The Band" also seems to imply that this can happen with Freddy masks.
that "huh?!" is part of my vernacular at this point haha! also the audio sounds good to me!
So thinking about Help Wanted and what they said about the indie developer is it possible that FNAF 1 and 2 minus the mini games doesnt exsist. That what we saw was a hallucination of the developer who would be given a Vanni mask. It would just make sense. Giving us 4 to show us where Michael was, Sister Location to give us those 20 to 30 years Michael was being puppeted, we go to 3 which shows William's freedom, and 6 to show the deaths of everyone and the end. Thus starting the Era of the Mimic
I don't believe that Andrew is Golden Freddy. I think the simpler answer to ucn and what's happing with Cassidy and Andrew is that they are both their even if Cassidy is there to stop Andrew from keeping William alive or another reason it seem their both their from the games and books. In the OMC easter egg Cassidy is told to rest her soul and leave the demon to his demons which connects to that finally cutscene we get of Cassidy listening to omcs advice and moving on instead of trying to stop andrew. But even though Cassidy moved on Afton's torture continues which leaves us with the questions like who toyshnk, whos controlling ucn and what's happening to afton which are answered in frights. TMIR280 tells us that Andrew is most likely toysnhk not only by matching the gender but having him keep Afton in this coma like state to continue his torture. I just think its simpler for them to be separate characters with separates goals in the same place Cassidy wanting to kill William and Andrew wanting to keep him alive to suffer
I think you’re cooking with the whole “I’ll kill Charlie to get Henry on board to build the funtimes”. It could even be after the MCI to align with the graves in HW2, William killed Susie out of maybe grief for CC, noticed chica was off after, rest of the kids were killed, he needed more bodies to experiment with remnant so he needed Henry’s help, so he killed Charlie. “The wound first inflicted on me” from Henry could even be from what CC saw when he was locked in back room with the guy we saw afton put the golden Bonnie head on spring locked and dead from bleeding out in the back room like phone guy says, Henry took it hard since it was his design for the suits
i think springtrap is sooo hawt 🥵! but benny cucumberbach doesn’t do it for me at all, springtrap a baddie tho
41:00 - Ish. The sealing arguments are cool and all, except the FNAF3 phone dude explicitly says that they had to unseal a hidden room to get to Afton.
Unless the ghosts built it, there is no way he wasn't sealed inside after FNAF1
I see a lot of people wondering why he would jump immediately to possession, but if we suppose he's got a screw loose from the beginning, it's possible he already had knowledge of the occult to a degree.
Hey Rye! TerrminalError had a great video a couple weeks ago, pulling stuff from the week before and one of his ideas were that Ralph was Old Man Consequences and it sounds pretty factual I definitely recommend checking it out!!
i think it makes more sense that Baby's Pizza World closes because *Henry* knows that they got Elizabeth killed, rather than William cancelling the project just because he lost another child (since that would necessitate him caring about Elizabeth. She seems to think he does though idk). But yeah, with Henry involved, he can't blatantly continue the project without shaking Henry's trust in him. Without Henry involved and with seemingly nobody knowing how Elizabeth died, why cancel the project when it's working as intended?
We do see Burntrap in-person. When he moves from room to room, we can see him down the hallways. Not that that disproves the hallucination angle, but Gregory doesn't see him exclusively thru monitors.
10:00 what about the scratch marks that line up with Burntraps right hand
The thumb and middle finger are blunt like his Nightmare BB fingers and the rest are sharp, matching up with his hand
I would like to counter and say that FnaF 3's timeline does matter. Obviously we're not given a specified amount of time between FnaF 3 and FnaF 6, but the FnaF 3 takes place the later we have to place Security Breach, which leads to a lot of theorists saying that the timelines between Tales From the Pizzaplex (such as the early timeline of the mimic, Edwin's age, etc) have too long of a gap or that the dates don't line up. HOWEVER if FnaF 3 is earlier, then maybe they don't all line up still but they might be closer to the point that it could be a math error and not a continuity issue
Golden Freddy in the Fetch minigame could possibly just be Andrew's agony. We know from the stingers and the end of TMIR1280, that agony was spread around. From fnaf AR and pressure, we also know that there are duplicate Golden Freddy suits made, so it's entirely possible that there was a GF suit in the distributuon centre
I do find Benedict Cumberbatch attractive, not just his voice. More than as an actor, it's events in his life and what he took away from them that make me go: "I love you, you beautiful human being🥲" and becomes attractive in a way that will stay into old age.
i always thought that the reason springtrap never left the backroom was because the suits arent allowed in so it just locks up
29:15 I was drinking water and you made it come out of my nose madman 💀
This auto played from a meme video and the Beneful Cucumberpatch jumpscare took me back to 2010 tumblr 😂😂😂
Under 1 minute gangggg
I do Theorize that Vengeful Spirit is Cassidy,
And Andrew and Jake Do exist, they're a Separate thing that happens.
As much Evidence as BurnTrap could be a Hallucination,
I think that Because Beating 50/20 is Possible,
Golden Freddy Freddy Fading away,(what looks like against his will)
William is Free, and Possess the AI He made long ago,
And That's what got Scanned
My hope is Burntrap's Not a Hallucination,
Because that just feels Too Cheap of an answer,
Because otherwise Why Did Vanny,
go Down there?
If it was to Serve The Mimic...
Why would The Very same be Left Down there? Bring Freddy with her.
As for how Gregory Not only saw them, but took the time to draw them,
I Theorize Gregory could actually Still Be GGY,
Where if Vanessa isn't aware she turns into Vanny,
Could the Same be applied to GGY and Gregory?
that weird moment when Gregory is in glamrock Freddy charging station & sees vanny while Freddy cant- is that his occipital nerve chip seeing vanny in the god forsaken AR world?
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Lol I was wondering what the background screaming was
Going with the burntrap is real or not question in Security Breach it is difficult.
1. It is implied Gregory had a Vanni Mask. This gives users a node in their mind. This means everything is up to debate because reality and artificial reality are being overlayed in the user's mind.
2. The only person we know of who saw Springtrap was the nightguard FNAF 3 and FNAF 6. We believe both are Michael who we also know was effected by the scooper and spiritual stuff. Devil's advocate is that we have a photo showing spring trap escaped the fire.
3. We have too many ways to discredit everything seen in every game.
I'm inclined to think that GGY and Ruins suggestion that Gregory perception is questionable is Scot Coffins fix for the errors the he talked about in the Doggo interview. Errors he outright said that he wasn't going to make none cannon but will now have to work around to get the story back on track.
I don't like it as a solution like you said it's Pandora's box that he can't close now that it's opened (and unfortunately ruins has already opened that box) but I still think it's what Scot Coffin is going for.
What if... Andrew is an alias that Cassidy uses in the books? I know this came out of nowhere, but if you disagree, I really want to know what could be against that.
Also, when I was first introduced to the series, I had always thought that the Toy animatronics had their criminal databases hacked or something, and that's why they attack our main character. But this was also the time where I kept mixing up the Rockstar and Glamrock animatronics, so whatever.
Imo burn trap was supposed to be digital only.
It would line up with why gregory eyes flicker when vanny goes by.
He is NOT a robot but human with pieces of the VR headset
I need to relocate the info to verify it, but I saw somewhere that when FNaF1 was made, he didn't know that charged and convicted meant different things and both were supposed to mean charged
Keep in mind that we should NOT be using things like "In the interview, he wasn't SUPPOSED TO MOVE..." as evidence. Because that same interview Scott also said the choices made in Security Breach are cannon, regardless of intent, and he is moving forward/making changes that work with it.
You said "hissing sound" and something in my laundry room started hissing. I thought at first that you'd put an edit in, but then it kept going so I paused the video and it was definitely not you. Wild coincidence.
Ive been thinking the same thing for ages. Stitchline games just doesn't work. I know emotionally people want them to because it gives a bigger story. But Andrew has never been mentioned, in game, and we have been given other names hinted as golden freddy. None of which are Andrew. I think matpat had ot years ago when he said, the books arnt part of the games, but give us the rules and ideas of the game world flushes out in a book, like remnant and agony.
Only books i can ever see being in the game world, are the game books, which works because, hey, they are games too
I wonder if William believed he was doing the missing kids a favor by bringing them eternal life
That cold open, I was trying to drink water, guess I'll just die instead.
i think the fact that you were originally only gonna see burntrap through a wall or something implies it’s aftons corpse. and that’s why he’s not moving. i don’t think afton would’ve been alive i think it would afton postfire being dead and lifeless
If we can't trust Gregory' POV ...whose to say the PizzaPlex was even operational during SB? In that i mean , this company that has a history of kids going missing is probably going to be the prime suspect anytime large amounts of people go missing. And theyve had A LOT of employees go missing , So what if its the 'we're closed but we still wanna accomodate this one last party ' thing again. And thats when a Freddy went outbut we have no way to know the game took place a IMMEDIATELY after. Since im positive freddy would have webt to Parts & services FIRST to be checked out where they had to force a reboot and where i think gregory snuck into his stomach hatch. So i think The animatronics werent slowly withering throughout the course of the game .
I mean could be that he did not have full control of the suit as he is slumped over almost as if in off mode and is bound to obey the programing in Fnaf 3
19:00 I might have an idea. What if burntrap was just standing there and not moving, like Scott said. THEN the Blob moved there hence why Gregory saw both of them next to each other and it grabbed Burntrap or rather whats left of aftons body and left
This is kind of what I was thinking. I think based on scotts interview that burntraps body was always suppossed to be in the blob, which is why the blob grabs him in the burntrap ending, and why I think they show the blob in ruin, to show it was real while scott tried to fix the security breach lore with ruin
i dont find springtrap attractive, but i LOVE his voice. i need pj heywood BACK
Does Rye still upload the podcast to Spotify? I started listening to all of them a few weeks ago and noticed that the newest one is from the end of October. Just wanted to check where I can continue listening!
Wait a minute
If willy is gone by SL
WHO THE FUCK IS CALLING THE MECHANICS AND MANAGING THE BUSINESS FOR FREDDY TO BE SENT OUT ONE NIGHT
Henry being manipulated because he's a reluctant follower
I could tell the difference right away. It's almost like more bassy?
I see the Burntrap and Blob drawing as.. burntrap is not cannon but the blob is because we see it.
10:42
You say that when the most straightforward explanation is that when they call it "augmented reality" or "AR" which could also stand for "alternate reality" they mean it literally and it's a different plane of existance that we can access through thecnology
Remember what was stated in fnaf world "everything that happens out there has an effect in here"
Springtrap is attractive because of his stance, he kinda just looks powerful.
I have an important question re: Sister Location, if anyone feels inclined to answer.
When Baby says they've left before but always get brought back, is she talking about being rented out for events?
Until recently I thought it was previous escape attempts or them leaving their "bodies" but that makes the most sense
Maybe I missed something when he said burntrap is moving everywhere is he referencing what Scott said or something different?
11:30 on the subject of Golden Freddy being the vengeful spirit may i direct you to the novel version of the Fnaf movie specifically the epilogue.
The epilogue is the scene with golden freddy and William after he got springlocked and the description of the scene is very very interesting and i feel like it will affect your perspective on the "Who is the vengeful spirit" dilemma.
There is no dilemma. Since UCN we knew that Vengeful Spirit/The One You Should Not Have Killed is Golden Freddy Victim - Cassidy.
Idk but ever heard of ucn duo
And so blonde boy closes the door leading afton to die instead of attaching himself into him
@@Gathaspar-k8rA lot of people would disagree with you (not that i disagree with you i 100% think Cassidy is the vengeful spirit).
@@Wizardjones69I've heard of UCN duo and I have a lot of problems with it.
Also the novel of the movie describes the blond boy leaving the room as him sealing William into a black prison and right before that the novel said that the boy took satisfaction in William's pain and wanted his suffering to go on as long as possible so.
I really really doubt he moved on and let William die.
@Modmangoingmad yeah, and he closes the door, leaving afton to die
He doesn't keep afton alive, which contradicts TOYSNHK from ucn
I find it quite significant that Golden Freddy leaving is 49/20 and not 50/20 because that implies that UCN continues after Golden Freddy is gone.
I saw this as Cassidy giving up on saving Andrew, leaving the demon to his demons and having her happiest day. This is why we see a kid with an alligator mask in colour in happiest day as opposed to the kids who move on being in black and white. Andrew is still attached to the world and Cassidy had to give up on helping him.
I find this more consistent with how Cassidy is shown in the logbook as a spirit kind of helping Dave adjust to the animatronic afterlife.
also this brings up the question? Why the hell is the MCI kid the one asking the CC questions when the CC has been dead for two years? Like wouldn't the CC understand why he can't see and such at that point?
I do like this theory because we are told that some Frights will be "connected to the games" and I can't see Man in Room 1280 not being one of those if that is the case. Also in Security Breach we see an alligator who is very angry and specifically hates the Bunny who happens to die in a backroom with wet floors.
Where’s William? He is everywhere smiling and waving at you but you don’t want to accept it.
Baby's Pizza world happened after the original Freddy's and before fnaf 2
It opened before the mci, elizabeth's death was literally the reason to afton cause the mci
Maybe burntrap is actually OG bonnie and the corpse is Jeremy
Thats one hell of a cold open rye
I mean I just looked at the cutecene what if it's you the player or William Afton moving away? Golden Freddy is staying
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Awesome thumbnail!
Hey are you still going to play into the pit on console live, I saw you were in October but it got delayed it would be a nice to chat with viewers as well. I want to know your thoughts on the console port.
I honestly think glitch trap is William and NOT PART OF THE MIMIC.
The first thing Glitchtrap does is mimic
Glitchtrap is not mimicking Tape Girl's Voice. He is just attached to her Audio Logs.
@Gathaspar-k8r the first time tape girl sees him, he's mimicking bonnie and/or chica
@@wolfietronic356 Wasn't he just standing and looking through the window? That's not necesserily mimicking. He is in the Game and looks at Tape Girl's Avatar.
So I've tried to keep up to date with most of the lore over the past 10 years, but what in god's name is the Afton Nightmare Chamber and why does Michael keep getting locked inside 😭
here is my stance, it is incredibly reckless for one to put out a timeline like this while knowing there is something upcoming that might ruin it. if it is just a random game you dont expect to be inportant fine, but if you are thinking to yourself, game might be important, wait until game, aim to get it out before next announcement, if possible without affecting quality.
I do kinda feel like there's less background noise with the new setup? I didn't really notice anything before, but now I have the distinct sense that the only sound is your voice.
13:02
Andrew is TOYSNHK while cassidy is helping him on afton torture, and she is convinced by omc to let go
But andrew didn't
Perhaps burntrap is the mimic but how Gregory sees him, they move very similar, maybe bc of the chip he sees him all fucked and scary
I'm now up to date on the FFPP YIPPEEEE🎉
12:02 THANK YOU
where is William?
easy, Glitchtrap
The dastardly lake:
This might be a stupid question but do we know the DCI even happened? Is it possible the DCI is just the MCI being shown again?
DCI definitely happened as a separate murder incident.
Phone Guy talks about recent rumors and later investigation and lockdown of the restaurant happened. Also someone used the yellow suit.
There is a theory that DCI never happened but Cassidy was killed at FNaF 2 location and that's why there is an investigation.
I don't think that's the case however.
I personally would not add another child victims that are forgotten after this game.
the intro 💀
Your audio sounds fine
Fnaf 4 teasers literally gave us the date 1982 for fredbears opening
Its charlie's death 1982 while fredbear's opened on 1979
@Wizardjones69 Charlie died in 85/86
@novustalks7525 *a wound first inflicted ON ME, then it bleed out, TO CAUSE ALL OF THIS*
@Wizardjones69 We know from UCN suzie was the first murder victim
@novustalks7525 susie first from the mci
Use logic