People saying he didn't portray the character are actually wrong. There are many different versions of the joker and Hoya is portraying the not so psychotic but still gangster, mastermind, sharp suit wearing joker. so, he actually did a great job and he had more choreo that showed off his talent. Ukwon did an amazing job showing the completely psycho, spazzy, doesn't care how he looks or who he kills because its fun joker and the choreo parts they chose were stunning but, if they had given him more dance time he would have been spectacular.
Here the issue Comics haves 3 version of joker. Joker that cares for money or is a gangster, joker that is funny and tells jokes, and joker that is a psycho. The issue is that he trying to be all 3 at once which doesn’t work. Psycho joker doesn’t care for money so why would he be robbing a fucking bank? Gangster and funny joker wouldn’t cut a smile into their faces because they aren’t psychos. Funny and Psycho joker wouldn’t get tattoos because they aren’t trying to be edgy like gangster. I really don’t know what version his trying to be.
I think he just gave his own joker...? Which was kind of the 3 versions in the comics, the dance was great but because of that it made me few less impressed by the character.
Infinite members said Hoya watched the joker movie and he's really paid attention to all this movie's detail including the small detail which is stick tongue out. well..that's our Hoya.perfectionist. you slayed this performance Hoya!
hoya was the main reason why i started dancing his inspiration has really affected me big time now im also a dancer but i still cannot keep up with hoya haha if i had a chance for him to teach me some his moves that would be amazing he is my ultimate bais in kpop as a dancer his moves are beyond epic and amazing i heard somewhere that hoya huge to be in a dance crew awhile back it maybe one of the reason he is so good he is legand the dancing king of kpop :)
I don't know if this is reasonable enough, but I just thought that Hoya and Ukwon's joker portraying performance is really different because they portrayed different jokers. The Leto Joker was literally crazy, wild, scary and crazy again, that's why Ukwon act all crazy and psycho throughout his performance, while the Ledger Joker was more serious, lethal, dark and messy, that's why Hoya focused more on dancing and made it dark and messy, instead of acting, because portraying Ledger Joker takes a lot of guts to be portrayed perfectly. It's just my opinion though :)
Hoya was the better dancer, but Ukwon was the better Joker. An epic Joker stage needs both. It's called Hit the Stage, it needs both dance and performing.
조커에는 다양한 버전이 있고 호야는 자기가 선택한 컨셉에 충실했음 표현력 자체는 다른 조커가 더 임팩트있게 느껴질지 모르겠지만 안무는 압도적임 코어가 좋아서 힘을 줘도 흔들리지 않고 무엇보다도 올장르가 섞여있음 중간에 옷 안 찢었어도 전반적인 안무 구성이 훨씬 좋아서 이겼을거라고 생각함
That moment when you realize that people don't know that there are many different versions of the Joker and they most likely only know the current day Joker.
Yeah I actually only saw the show bc of taemin and ten but I think he really did the best with ten. I loved taemins performance but it was a bit different from the devil concept and it felt more like a promotion for his album.
Teamin is a genius with a totally different style + elegent + cool~ hoya is a real boss when he doesnt think anything but dance with all the power he has~ dont think~ just enjoy and learn~ dont care anything~ just explode 150% of your energy and show them a real boss' cold face~ be yourself~ you yourself is better than all the male kpop idols
조커가 다양한데 표현할 수있는게 더 많은 조커는 유권님이 맡은 조커가 맞음 근데 안무의 다양성이 더 많은건 호야였음 유권님은 표현도 좋고 잘추셨지만 본인안무보다도 다른 백업댄서분들의 비중이 더 큰느낌이었음 전체적인 비쥬얼로 봤을 때는 더 좋게 느낄 수는 있겠지만 안무의 스킬로 봤을 때는 호야가 더 좋게 느낄 수 있을듯 취향차이 그 당시에 SNS나 커뮤같은 실시간댓글에서 호야춤이 더 좋다고 하는 사람도 엄청 많았어요 사실 둘 다 너무 잘했음..
yES SLAY LEE HOWON, hoya and ten are the winners for me, but taemin did amazing as well! But again every dancer has their own uniqueness and style, so i don't think it is fair to rank their dances because dance is such a subjective form of art.
is it just me or, This concept was literally pulled off by both hoya and ukwon. in my personal opinion, the joker character was pulled off best by ukwon, compared to hoya but hoya's moves are slightly stronger compared to ukwon's. so yeah. both is a win, is just that y'all need to respect other bands and appreciate their effort. (I'm in both fandom btw) blockfinite ftw!
SupastarzEdit no ukwon was better are you kidding me he was sicker than this and a full performance from the beginning till the end but hoya all I can see he is trying so hard to look sick but end up with his tongue sticking out of his mouth the whole performance
hanwriter Ukwon won Anyone could watch his dance and know that his the Joke. I felt like Hoya was hood, but if he didn't have the music literally say "Call me the joker" I feel people wouldn't get it. They would probably just say his a mob boss. Also he failed big time with the HQ backup dancer. She looks nothing like HQ. (She the only one not wearing something over her face).
WE WILL MISS YOU HOYA! I LOVE YOU! I HOPE THAT YOUR FUTURE WILL BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL, I TRULY RESPECT THE DECISION YOU MADE. WE WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU, REMEMBER THAT ❤❤❤
I told everyone from the start that majority of the viewers will become his fans and look at them now. He deserves all the recognition he can get. I respect the voters decision, even though he did not won, he's still the best. Well, everyone knows that. Thanks for everyone who supported & still supporting. Proud Inspirit ☺️💓
though he lost many non inspirits now know how talented hoya is.. taemin's dancing talent is known by many before.. im glad hoya getting many recognition by this. we do not need to win always just a great performance is what matters :D
STOP comparing and enjoy. Who did better or who should've won is such RUDE comment. Be mature and respect every performers and the crew, this is why this kind of competition brings such unnecessary fanwars. I'm an inspirit so I will say that Hoya did more than the vote he got, and he deserved more. However he truly felt confident and was satisfied so as a fan I'm proud of him. All the idols and the crew did such wonderful job and I can't wait to watch what they show!
Queen Ofhearts It's okay if their comments are constructive or objective but if they are commenting because of hating and being subjective. That's not acceptable :)
+Queen Ofhearts I agree but excessive comparison that purposely brings the idol or a fandom down is not a "pure competition". Competition shouldn't be used as an excuse to write unnecessary, disrespectful, and hateful comment :)
He is INFINITE's Hoya. He is rapper and dancer in his group but also he sings very well, even he can hit high notes, songwriter, composer and good at sports. he is indeed such a talented man,go check him out ^^
근데 연기나 코스프레 대회가 아니라 댄스경연이니까 안무구성도 훨씬 퀄리티 있고 빡빡한 호야가 배는 더 낫지않나 생각함 보면 현대무용 동작이랑 크럼프랑 이거저거 많이 집어넣었고 안무 본인이 짰는지 몸에 다 달라붙잖아 팔 표현도 너무 좋고 이걸 지금와서 말하는 것도 웃기긴한데 암튼 판정이 좀 아쉬웠음 아마 유권 무대에서 댄서들이 그림 같이 만들면서 무대가 더 풍성하게 보였다는걸 봤겠지
this is my first time seeing hoya dance and wow. didnt know he was at this level. though i still vote taemin's performance but wow. he's definitely someone to look out for. wow.
Check out his Instagram vids: isayhousayya. He likes to upload short freestyle dances ^^ Plus, he did all this on injured legs. He busted one leg awhile back, but then used his other leg so much (dancing), that he busted that one. (haha T.T). Technically, he still recovering, but not like that ever stopped him before. Also, check out Infinite's SBS Gayo performance of "Bad". And i'm sure I can list more, but I wont, unless you want me too. lol
+Kidemona i can see how much of a fan u are. haha. it would be nice if u could recommend me his best of the best perfs. hahaha. would be glad to add him to my bias list. 😉😉
Yay~ First off, every Hoya bias has to watch his "O" and "Good Kisser" covers. And yes, he has the "I must rip my shirt off disease" in these videos, too. lol Then there's Infinite's classic MVs like "Chaser," "Be Mine" and "Last Romeo." And I need to warn you, it's very hard to have a bias in Infinite. They keep wrecking everything. *>.
He's also in a sub-unit with Infinite's other great dance, Dongwoo, called Infinite H (Hip Hop). Dongwoo's "Right For You" dance is a good start to check him out.
Hoya's skills are immeasurably dope, but this didn't really have anything to do with the Joker. It was basically just him murdering the fuck out of the dance floor while wearing Joker makeup. Interesting how he and U-Kwon got almost exactly the same number of points, one for sheer technical prowess and the other for nailing the feel of the character. Either way, call me entertained. Wonder what theme they're gonna do next.
The scores were from the audience. The number of people who voted for them out of 200 is their score. So 159 people voted for Hoya. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the judges are doing any of the "judging".
여기 호야 영상에 와서 굳이 유권이 더 잘 했다고 글 남기고 가는 분들, 유권 영상에 가서 남기는 게 더 합리적으로 보입니다. 제 개인적 의견으로, 유권은 조커 이미지의 퍼포먼스 위주에 댄스 스킬이 다소 부족했다고 보여지고, 호야는 춤 잘 추는 조커 내지는 화려한 댄스 스킬로 조커의 캐릭터를 표현한 느낌에 퍼포먼스는 덤이라는 생각이 들어요. 호야의 조커는 멋있고 반하게 만들잖아요~^^ Hoya's joker is handsome💜 Hoya is the best👍
호야 무대가 절대 유권무대랑 비교당할 정도의 수준은 아닌데 유권님이랑 비교하는 댓글밖에 없네.. 유권님은 조커에 몰입에 더 신경쓴거고 호야는 춤으로 표현하는데 더 신경쓴거고 그걸 누가 더 잘했냐로 평가하는건 심사하는사람의 기준차이인데 여기서 누가더잘했는데 결과가 이해안된다 하는게 우습네요. 정작 무대한 본인들은 결과인정하고 서로 본받을점 본받으면서 성장하고있을텐데
Jessie McMillan well, in all honesty, ukwon was good and played his role but the dancing wasnt really there. hoya actually played his role and danced and this is coming from a salty ten stan.
Hoya and ukwon left the most impression on me because they are really scary looking and the concept is devils, and they fufill the concept well. Great expressions on their faces and their dances are great as well!! Hoya though so sexy and so much outburst in his dance. 👏
my opinion, he didnt had to get the joker look beacouse it just ruined it and didnt give any feeling of joker. just a fail. pretending that i didnt saw this video.
Really..than u not a true JOKER fan..the purple..soo JOKER and that creepy ass laugh dance was WOW...i'm a BIG DC universe fan and i can tell u.. I like that part a lot..it was unique and oooh SOO JOKER..BTW..i'm pretending that i didn't see ur comment as well coz it was soo ASININE..
Ok just saw Yukwon's version and this one wins I gotta say fuck Hoya is pure talent. I'm not saying Yukwon isn't but he had too much frivolous showmanship in his stage not enough dancing hehe. Hoya is so raw
Take off your clothes and makeup, and it could have been any other character. It was not a real interpretation of The Joker. He only danced dressed like him, but it was not HIM. U-Kwon was The Joker in all its extension. Even if the UK had not worn the clothes or the painted hair, you would have seen Al Joker in every movement and every facial expression. Please, objectivity is important.
I agree. I stan and love both of them but I give it to Hoya. Although Ukwon showed more of the Joker interpretation it was too flashy and not focusing on the dancing part of the *dance* competition imo. He focused more of imitating the Joker that it kinda felt like for his stage he put more effort into the acting and most of the dancing came from the backup dancers which is ok but Hoya balanced it better between the dancing and imitations. He kept the imitations short and brief and showed off more of his actual dancing skills.
Not just a dancer, a performer. 👏 his stages are like movies. He takes the character and brings them to life. Just like his Greatest Showman performance 😊
I don't care who a person likes she could like king Kong if she wanted to I was saying my opinion and I never said that ten and Goya were not good dancers she have her taste like I have mind so do no go and get all that offended because it really is not that big of a deal ok
True, everyone is allowed an opinion. However what you commented above, 'Well you(r) taste didn't come in first place now did it(?),' can't pass as an opinion. You typed that with the intent to 'Insult and belittle Ju N' for the sake of gloating since your bias won. (Are you a Hoya hater? If he had beat Taemin would you have come in this comment section to hate on him for beating your bias? This is all theoretical but it appears you would've.)This is an example of an opinion: "I enjoyed both Taemin and Hoya's performance, they are very talented. With that being said, Hoya's powerful dance suited my taste more, and thus he did the best in my opinion."I actually haven't seen Taemin's performance yet, but I know he slayed. So I'm off to see that and I hope not to come across anymore egotistical snide remarks like Toni Tate's. Anywho, If Taemin beat Hoya's performance he must have done exceptional as well, since Hoya surpassed my already high expectations for his performance. Hoya was phenomenal!
Hoya did amazing job here with his tough footworks and dont forget he slayed this stage eventhough he's still having ankle therapy during this time . Proud of him.
what do u expect from hoya when every single dancer in his team is a professional choreographer... though he just managed to stand on 2nd place, this stage is insanely incredible 😱😱😱
I think it's unfortunate that there were two joker concepts, because who ever performed first usually is seen more favourably as the second performer almost looks like they stole the idea. Such a pity because this was a really great stage!
nasty mingyu Of course, that was the problem though. Because they were planned alone, two people ended up with the same concept, so even if people did know this, whoever went second would automatically have the thunder and excitement stolen from their performance because people would naturally be looking for similarities to the first performance.
LittleDrummerChic But fortunately for Hoya, even though they had the same concept and he went second, he won over ukwon so it's quite fortunate for him.
People saying he didn't portray the character are actually wrong. There are many different versions of the joker and Hoya is portraying the not so psychotic but still gangster, mastermind, sharp suit wearing joker. so, he actually did a great job and he had more choreo that showed off his talent. Ukwon did an amazing job showing the completely psycho, spazzy, doesn't care how he looks or who he kills because its fun joker and the choreo parts they chose were stunning but, if they had given him more dance time he would have been spectacular.
Samara white you are right Girl
CécileLovesMonstaXGot7ShineeAndOthers LoveKorea “White”
Here the issue
Comics haves 3 version of joker.
Joker that cares for money or is a gangster, joker that is funny and tells jokes, and joker that is a psycho.
The issue is that he trying to be all 3 at once which doesn’t work. Psycho joker doesn’t care for money so why would he be robbing a fucking bank? Gangster and funny joker wouldn’t cut a smile into their faces because they aren’t psychos. Funny and Psycho joker wouldn’t get tattoos because they aren’t trying to be edgy like gangster.
I really don’t know what version his trying to be.
J.N.J. 704 ??? right= true...I was talking 'bout her words...i could have written "Well said girl"
I think he just gave his own joker...? Which was kind of the 3 versions in the comics, the dance was great but because of that it made me few less impressed by the character.
Infinite members said Hoya watched the joker movie and he's really paid attention to all this movie's detail including the small detail which is stick tongue out. well..that's our Hoya.perfectionist. you slayed this performance Hoya!
Hi may I ask where that was mentioned by infinite members? do you have a link maybe? that would really be helpful, thank youu!
Eliza Darcy sorry for late reply. They said it during their summer 3 concert.
Oh, ok. Thanks!
비엠비셔스 나오는 거 보고 생각나서 다시 보러 왔어요
이호원 잘한다!!!
진짜춤출때가젤멋있어
Hoya needs to calm that tongue. LOL Still super cool tho.
he is doing the "Batman: The Dark Knight" Joker impression. During the entirety of his screen time, he would CONSTANTLY lick his lips like that.
Meg Usta HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
It enhanced his performance thoo
ikr
I tried to count how many times he stuck out his tongue and I counted 32 times
같은 조커인데 호야는 멋진놈 유권은 미친놈..
ㅇㅈ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
유권은 좋은 미친놈..
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Is that really the Hoya I know?! DAMN!!! I KNEW HIM FOR 6 YEARS AND NEVER KNEW HE WAS THIS GOOD AT DANCING!!! DISAPPOINTED IN MYSELF!!!!!! FHXJSNCJS
JAE6 DAY6 Lobster i knew he was a great dancer, but not THIS.
babydontstop .mp3 SAME!!!!!
Something is wrong with yall lmao
JAE6 DAY6 Lobster SAME
How can u guys know hoya for this long and not know hes one of the best dancers in kpop?
hoya was the main reason why i started dancing his inspiration has really affected me big time
now im also a dancer but i still cannot keep up with hoya haha
if i had a chance for him to teach me some his moves that would be amazing
he is my ultimate bais in kpop as a dancer
his moves are beyond epic and amazing
i heard somewhere that hoya huge to be in a dance crew awhile back it maybe one of the reason he is so good he is legand the dancing king of kpop :)
completely agree :)
Kristen pasistor oo thats nice to know how he inspired u c:
Same, he is my favorite dancer too , along with Ten(nct) and kai(exo)
I don't know if this is reasonable enough, but I just thought that Hoya and Ukwon's joker portraying performance is really different because they portrayed different jokers. The Leto Joker was literally crazy, wild, scary and crazy again, that's why Ukwon act all crazy and psycho throughout his performance, while the Ledger Joker was more serious, lethal, dark and messy, that's why Hoya focused more on dancing and made it dark and messy, instead of acting, because portraying Ledger Joker takes a lot of guts to be portrayed perfectly. It's just my opinion though :)
wow i see thank you
Rilie Santiagudo yesssss
Nabila Ghozali
Rilie Santiagudo i Like Ukwon joker better.He express the character of joker perfectly
True. Like, I really felt his performance, I legitimately thought he was the joker... like... it was really believable.
음...한국인들은 어디있는거야....거의 나만외치는 혼잣말 수준😭 호야대박
12x20 호야대박!!!!!!
박대야호
When you're a geek and you saw the team name is Avengers but the performance is about Joker and you wondering "why not Loki" lol
So true! Also if he did Loki then his and Kwonnie's concepts wouldn't overlap.
Tru
LOL
IKR LOLL
Like guys imagine if it's about Loki and Taylor Swift 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
I would give it all to Hoya bahahaha
호원님은 아티스트시네요 스맨파 이전엔사실 1997 나온배우 정도로 생각했는데 호원님은 너무 멋진 아티스트셨어요~ 응원합니다 앞으로 더 멋질호원님을.. ..비안무미션이후 반했어요
Who else come here because we are missing our Hoya
I missed him too 😥
Yep...😭😭😭😭😭
Kpopislifeu!!_dubuislifeu Jungshookmeallyahwant! Miss him isn’t the word.HOYAAAAA♥️
This just made me miss him even more. Can't help but cry
I love both ukwon and Hoya :) they both were amazing ans there's no need to compare beautiful dancers and create fan wars
uy
Me: I’m not gay
*watches this video*
Okay maybe a little
50 : 50
right?😂
Everyone of us tbh.
spkyvamp Same
Ugh same
Me: I'm not straight
*watches this video*
Okay maybe a little
역시 댄서는 춤잘추면 짱임👍 춤과 무대연기 어느 한부분으로 치우치지 않고 중심을 잘 잡았음 진짜 멋있다👏
Hoya was the better dancer, but Ukwon was the better Joker. An epic Joker stage needs both. It's called Hit the Stage, it needs both dance and performing.
Preach 🙌🏻
couldn't have said it any better !
Hoyas dance was good enough to surpass the joker character. Hoya nailed the dance and character.
Hoya's perf was too orderly for the Joker. He represents chaos, anarchy. Ukwon did that perfectly.
But Ukwon dance was lacking, only perfoming
i love all the group that participate but for me hoya and ten are the best one
word
totally agree 👍
AGREE AGREE AGREE
SAME!!
same
19년 살면서 호야가 춤 이래 잘 추는거 첨 알았다..
that's our HOYA yeah!!
Rocker Gyu our HoMonster 👏👏👏
HOfarmer!!!!! ~_~
HOYAAAAA
our hobaby 😍
조커에는 다양한 버전이 있고 호야는 자기가 선택한 컨셉에 충실했음
표현력 자체는 다른 조커가 더 임팩트있게 느껴질지 모르겠지만 안무는 압도적임
코어가 좋아서 힘을 줘도 흔들리지 않고 무엇보다도 올장르가 섞여있음
중간에 옷 안 찢었어도 전반적인 안무 구성이 훨씬 좋아서 이겼을거라고 생각함
약간 호야는 조커가 미국 갱인 거 같고
유권은 그냥 광기에 미친 사이코고
원래 조커가 미국 갱 쪽이에요
@@최병호-f9x ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@띠요오옹-x5o 왜 쪼갬??
@@최병호-f9x ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Right when the video started, my first thought was "Why is he shoveling money from one bag to another? That makes NO SENSE!!!" 😂😂
Lmao
SAME
호야는 몸짓이 잘생겼음 진짜로... 처음에 가면쓰고 웃는데 얼굴이 안 보이는데 잘생겼음 손이랑 어깨랑 다..... 잘생김 노크하는 손도 잘생김..... 간지난다 진짜
That moment when you realize that people don't know that there are many different versions of the Joker and they most likely only know the current day Joker.
ikr 😂😂
he doesnt rly look like a joker he just looks like a jared leto style fuckboy kind of edgy tryhard joker
스맨파로 인해 알고리즘에 뜨게될영상
ㅁㅊㄷ😅😅😅
@@frejagems😊
Hoya: Stop!!
Tzuyu: . . . (Ok....)
Hoya: *"Taking his shirt off"*
Girls: *"Scream"* 😂😂😂
Wait a minute they used exaclty the same clip at Taemins too-
HAHAH
Time flies ~
It's already 6 years ago the first time I watched this? Wow
Our Lee Hoya is still as amazing as always. Fighting in SMF! Love ya
He took off his mask and my immediate reaction was:
“Crap he’s hot-“
same 😂
and he is 😂
*same*
I said the exact same thing 😂
"i neeD A PREGNANCY TEST!"
"But your a virgin??"
"I NEED A PREGNANCY TEST!!!!"
I feel you me too😂😂✌
Same 😂
That's Korean Affect
こんにちは 😂✌
오랜만에 보러왔는데 아직도 소름이다..무대ㅜ
his crew's name is Avengers(Marvel) but Joker is from DC Universe
shhhh.. just let people enjoy things 😂😂😂😂
lol
The fucking irony 😂
the shade lmao
hahaha!
not an Inspirit or anything but damn, he slay them all
yuuup ♥
yes yes 😊😄💗
Yeah I actually only saw the show bc of taemin and ten but I think he really did the best with ten. I loved taemins performance but it was a bit different from the devil concept and it felt more like a promotion for his album.
yeah 😍😍
It would be awesome if Dongwoo join Hit the stage.
개인적으로 정말 개인적으로 유권의 조커는 진짜 조커같은데 이 무대는 조커라는 주제에는 충실하지 못한거 같지만 춤을 참 잘추네요
전 호야무대가 더 맘에 드는데.. 역시 취향차이
저도 호야무대가 더 맘에 들어요 이 영상은 계속 보러와요
@_김하영 옷도 찢었대ㅋㄱㅋㄱ 말 왜이렇게 잘해여ㅋㅋㄱㄱㅋㄱ
저도 호야팬이지만 그렇게생각해요
인정.. 유권을 먼저 보고 호야를 봐서 그런지 유권은 진짜 조커가 춤 추는 것 같았는데 호야는 그냥 조커 분장한 사람이 춤 추는 것 같았음.
personally i think he deserved more than 159 but thats just me 😰
yeah definitely!! he really showed his dancing skills here
+christina lee I agree I he's really a great dancer
ikr. I'm expecting a little more than 159 tbh.
he deserves 10,000points 😂😁😆
Teamin is a genius with a totally different style + elegent + cool~ hoya is a real boss when he doesnt think anything but dance with all the power he has~ dont think~ just enjoy and learn~ dont care anything~ just explode 150% of your energy and show them a real boss' cold face~ be yourself~ you yourself is better than all the male kpop idols
캐해는 유권이 잘했고 춤은 호야가 더 잘 보여줬다고 생각
거 줄임말쓰면 우리는 잘 몰러
조커라는 컨셉이 캐릭터에 더 몰입을 해야 좋은 안무가 나온다고 생각하는데 그 점에서 유권쪽이 더 나았음
@@bhng1111 Joker
유권 동영상 댓글보면 호야 언급 자체가 없고 걍 개쩐다 라는 댓글 뿐..
조커가 다양한데 표현할 수있는게 더 많은 조커는 유권님이 맡은 조커가 맞음 근데 안무의 다양성이 더 많은건 호야였음
유권님은 표현도 좋고 잘추셨지만 본인안무보다도 다른 백업댄서분들의 비중이 더 큰느낌이었음
전체적인 비쥬얼로 봤을 때는 더 좋게 느낄 수는 있겠지만 안무의 스킬로 봤을 때는 호야가 더 좋게 느낄 수 있을듯 취향차이
그 당시에 SNS나 커뮤같은 실시간댓글에서 호야춤이 더 좋다고 하는 사람도 엄청 많았어요
사실 둘 다 너무 잘했음..
볼때 마다 느낀다. 역대급 무대 역시 끼있는 자는 틀리다.
While watching this, I'm thinking about the fetus Hoya in Sesame Player and Ranking King and I just shoved tears.
haha..i miss fetus Hoya too
i miss fetus hoya so much ;-;
LeeYooSeoKimParkRyuJeong SooJiSooMiYeonEunJeongIn OMG SAME AND HOYA W/GLASSES
oh lord that name
yES SLAY LEE HOWON, hoya and ten are the winners for me, but taemin did amazing as well! But again every dancer has their own uniqueness and style, so i don't think it is fair to rank their dances because dance is such a subjective form of art.
the best rank is scored by judges no matter how.. like lee hyori and so on.. rather than audience voting ==
maybe you should watch their individual fancams then you might understand better why taemin won (-: anyways everyone did well
U-Kwon slayed too !! all of them did a Great a job honestly , i'm really amazed
호원이 머시쪙 몸을 진짜 잘씀
My bias from infinite y'all 👅
adore mingyu same😊
Sameeeee Carat and Inspirit here
Omg we have the same bias my bias is mingyu and hoya too
is it just me or,
This concept was literally pulled off by both hoya and ukwon. in my personal opinion, the joker character was pulled off best by ukwon, compared to hoya but hoya's moves are slightly stronger compared to ukwon's. so yeah. both is a win, is just that y'all need to respect other bands and appreciate their effort. (I'm in both fandom btw) blockfinite ftw!
+Alicia IsAwesome YESSSSSS EXACTLYYYY! I totally understand how you feel. Block b needs some time to shine!! I'm a fellow BBC too!!
It was pulled off but he did better than Ukwown and Hoya.
SupastarzEdit no ukwon was better are you kidding me he was sicker than this and a full performance from the beginning till the end but hoya all I can see he is trying so hard to look sick but end up with his tongue sticking out of his mouth the whole performance
hanwriter
Ukwon won
Anyone could watch his dance and know that his the Joke. I felt like Hoya was hood, but if he didn't have the music literally say "Call me the joker" I feel people wouldn't get it. They would probably just say his a mob boss. Also he failed big time with the HQ backup dancer. She looks nothing like HQ. (She the only one not wearing something over her face).
Sara #whatislove sorry. This is a dancing competition. Not an acting competition. And because of that, Hoya won
WE WILL MISS YOU HOYA! I LOVE YOU! I HOPE THAT YOUR FUTURE WILL BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL, I TRULY RESPECT THE DECISION YOU MADE. WE WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU, REMEMBER THAT ❤❤❤
What happened
itz_tina I think he enlisted in the army
@@anti-social5303 he didnt renew the contract from infinite's agency. So infinite's only 6 now. 3 technically bcs 3 enlisted.
seeing Draco Malfoy writing this fanboyishly is actually quite funny-
@@itz_tina7906 he left infinite :')
춤 스타일 피지컬은 호야가 더 내스타일..
I told everyone from the start that majority of the viewers will become his fans and look at them now. He deserves all the recognition he can get. I respect the voters decision, even though he did not won, he's still the best. Well, everyone knows that. Thanks for everyone who supported & still supporting. Proud Inspirit ☺️💓
he lost
+Pr0d3gi I know that he lost, what I'm trying to say is that even though he did not win, he's still one of the best dancers out there
though he lost many non inspirits now know how talented hoya is.. taemin's dancing talent is known by many before.. im glad hoya getting many recognition by this. we do not need to win always just a great performance is what matters :D
+Lashini Liyanage yes omg same thoughts!! He really deserve all the attention and he's the second place, we should be proud of it 😊👌
호원아! 엠비셔스 된 거 넘넘 잘됐고 축하해🤍
너의 노력이 그 세상 어떤 별보다 환하게 빛나리라 믿어
네가 어디에 있든, 항상 행복했으면 좋겠어
늘 응원할게~ 고마워 사랑해 :)
I clicked like first, before watching it.
same here 😂😂
me too. 😂
Me too
me too haha
Mee too
STOP comparing and enjoy. Who did better or who should've won is such RUDE comment. Be mature and respect every performers and the crew, this is why this kind of competition brings such unnecessary fanwars.
I'm an inspirit so I will say that Hoya did more than the vote he got, and he deserved more.
However he truly felt confident and was satisfied so as a fan I'm proud of him.
All the idols and the crew did such wonderful job and I can't wait to watch what they show!
exactly! best comment!
As expected from an Inspirit. Our fandom is so matured. I agree with your comment.
but competitions are meant to be compared
Queen Ofhearts It's okay if their comments are constructive or objective but if they are commenting because of hating and being subjective. That's not acceptable :)
+Queen Ofhearts I agree but excessive comparison that purposely brings the idol or a fandom down is not a "pure competition". Competition shouldn't be used as an excuse to write unnecessary, disrespectful, and hateful comment :)
춤 체력 강약조절 미쳤다
오랜만에 왔는데ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 좋다 좋아
I don't know who he is...but he is my fav
He is INFINITE's Hoya. He is rapper and dancer in his group but also he sings very well, even he can hit high notes, songwriter, composer and good at sports. he is indeed such a talented man,go check him out ^^
and he's an actor :D just got the best actor award.
+tifa lockheart yeah oh my gosh he was in reply 1997
+eb ba but I didn't know he had so many talents
+tifa lockheart yes omg, how I forgot to write that 😂
이 회차에서 호야는 춤이 미쳤고 유권은 찐 미친놈이였음(칭찬)
우리 호원이 너무 잘한다ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 춤추는거 많이 보여줘
유권보고 호야봤는데 캐릭터랑 춤을 확실히 더 잘 녹여낸거같다
약간 호야는 조커를 연기하며 춤추는 사람같고 유권은 그냥 조커같다
ㅇㅈ
뭐래 ㅋㅋ
뭐지 ㅋㅋ
근데 연기나 코스프레 대회가 아니라 댄스경연이니까 안무구성도 훨씬 퀄리티 있고 빡빡한 호야가 배는 더 낫지않나 생각함 보면 현대무용 동작이랑 크럼프랑 이거저거 많이 집어넣었고 안무 본인이 짰는지 몸에 다 달라붙잖아 팔 표현도 너무 좋고 이걸 지금와서 말하는 것도 웃기긴한데 암튼 판정이 좀 아쉬웠음 아마 유권 무대에서 댄서들이 그림 같이 만들면서 무대가 더 풍성하게 보였다는걸 봤겠지
장까루룽 ㅇㅈ 솔직히 호야 조커는 안무 퀄리티가 훨씬 높고 풍성함... 옛날에 본방으로 봤을 때도 호야 진짜 잘 짰구나 싶었음
역쉬~호야 늘 응원합니다♡
유권 조커가 연기 진짜 잘하고 더 임팩트있다고 생각했는데, 심사위원들 평이 호야가 높았던 걸로 기억. 제이블랙?이나 배윤정같은 사람들이 춤만 봐서 호야의 춤 완성도가 더 높다고 평가한 거 같음
유권은 춤 분량이 많이 없어서 그런듯
ㄹㅇ 진짜임?? 유권이 압도적인데 곡 해석도 능력이라 봐야되는데 이걸 더 높게평가햇다는건.. 흠 이건아니라는 생각인데
엥 나 이때 보던 사람인데 이거 방청객들까지 리모컨으로 투표해서 투표수 더 많은 사람이 이기는 방식이었음
@@원셋 춤은 이쪽이 훨씬 잘 췄고 춤추는 프로그램이였으니까요
호야는 조커를 주제로한 무대를 보여줬고 유권은 무대에 선 조커를 보여줬음
오
this is my first time seeing hoya dance and wow. didnt know he was at this level. though i still vote taemin's performance but wow. he's definitely someone to look out for. wow.
Check out his Instagram vids: isayhousayya. He likes to upload short freestyle dances ^^ Plus, he did all this on injured legs. He busted one leg awhile back, but then used his other leg so much (dancing), that he busted that one. (haha T.T). Technically, he still recovering, but not like that ever stopped him before. Also, check out Infinite's SBS Gayo performance of "Bad". And i'm sure I can list more, but I wont, unless you want me too. lol
+Kidemona i can see how much of a fan u are. haha. it would be nice if u could recommend me his best of the best perfs. hahaha. would be glad to add him to my bias list. 😉😉
Yay~ First off, every Hoya bias has to watch his "O" and "Good Kisser" covers. And yes, he has the "I must rip my shirt off disease" in these videos, too. lol Then there's Infinite's classic MVs like "Chaser," "Be Mine" and "Last Romeo." And I need to warn you, it's very hard to have a bias in Infinite. They keep wrecking everything. *>.
+Kidemona lols. i like you. hahaha. and infinite better keep the bias wrecker thing at a minimum cuz im still ruined cuz of svt. dem. 😢😢😢😢
He's also in a sub-unit with Infinite's other great dance, Dongwoo, called Infinite H (Hip Hop). Dongwoo's "Right For You" dance is a good start to check him out.
shiet. i was waiting for this but not ready yet lol
i feel you
can feel you
same here..
호야랑 같이 춤추시는 분들 효진초이님 정구성님 벅키님까지 대박이네 오프닝쇼에 아디다스 츄리닝 입고 춘것도 이분들 다계시던데 다들 잘되서 기쁘당😂
this is how Joker suppose to be.
se hyun truee
exactly
YUKWON presented joker better
Jiwon Cnoi agree
personal opinion..
I felt like the ripping off shirt part was a little unnecessary but gotta admit he is damn hot
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I just found out about this guy and honestly all I can say is that he's hella attractive and he knows how to put on a show. Stage presence on fleek
Hoya's skills are immeasurably dope, but this didn't really have anything to do with the Joker. It was basically just him murdering the fuck out of the dance floor while wearing Joker makeup. Interesting how he and U-Kwon got almost exactly the same number of points, one for sheer technical prowess and the other for nailing the feel of the character. Either way, call me entertained. Wonder what theme they're gonna do next.
The scores were from the audience. The number of people who voted for them out of 200 is their score. So 159 people voted for Hoya.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the judges are doing any of the "judging".
I know it was an audience vote. The celebrities are just there for commentary. Regardless, my point stands. Show is interesting so far.
In case you didn't know, Joker doesn't dance. This is really the most you can do with it.
there is 4 kinds of joker he is the ANARCHIST
9gag.com/gag/aQn95Dr/types-of-joker
zibbity bibbity bop
이게 몇년 전인데 이제와서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 물론 둘다 잘했는데 프로 자체가 춤 경연이고 유권은 퍼포먼스가 더 도드라지게 좋았고 호야는 댄스 스킬부분에서 더 좋았다 생각함 ㅇㅇ 그래서 호야가 이겼다 싶은데 뭐 이제와서 결과를 바꿄 슨 없자너~
여기 호야 영상에 와서 굳이 유권이 더 잘 했다고 글 남기고 가는 분들, 유권 영상에 가서 남기는 게 더 합리적으로 보입니다. 제 개인적 의견으로, 유권은 조커 이미지의 퍼포먼스 위주에 댄스 스킬이 다소 부족했다고 보여지고, 호야는 춤 잘 추는 조커 내지는 화려한 댄스 스킬로 조커의 캐릭터를 표현한 느낌에 퍼포먼스는 덤이라는 생각이 들어요. 호야의 조커는 멋있고 반하게 만들잖아요~^^ Hoya's joker is handsome💜 Hoya is the best👍
호야는 혀 낼름거리는 거부터 해서 진짜 히스레저 조커같고 유권은 자레드 레토 조커같다. 둘 다 너무 좋아 ㅠㅜ
호야는 지금 어디서 춤추고 있을까....
엠넷 스맨파에 8월 16일부터 나오는 거 아시죠? 이미 엠비셔스 크루로 뽑힌 것두요~~ 함께 응원해요~^^
유권은 진짜 조커가 삶을 즐기는거 같고
호야는 조커라는 사람을 춤으로 설명해준것 같다...
진짜 그냥 킹이다!!
말이 필요없음
I came here again and again to see my Tenny clapping 😂😂❤❤
same
hahahaha same
I thought you meant Johnny + Ten at first bc that's their ship name LOL
+alyanna p. Hahaha Yeah that's true .I actually call him Tenny because he's like a cute baby hahaha ❤❤
호야는 진짜 대박이다👍🏻
I love Hoya's acting, he displayed the joker really well.
힛더스테이지 짱이었음
호야 무대가 절대 유권무대랑 비교당할 정도의 수준은 아닌데 유권님이랑 비교하는 댓글밖에 없네..
유권님은 조커에 몰입에 더 신경쓴거고 호야는 춤으로 표현하는데 더 신경쓴거고 그걸 누가 더 잘했냐로 평가하는건 심사하는사람의 기준차이인데 여기서 누가더잘했는데 결과가 이해안된다 하는게 우습네요. 정작 무대한 본인들은 결과인정하고 서로 본받을점 본받으면서 성장하고있을텐데
힘이 진짜 대박이다
A joker that's actually dancing YESS
lmaaao
lol, ukwon take some lessons
ikr!
Why the fuck are yall being so nasty about Ukwon like chill the fuck out please. Yall are immature af.
Jessie McMillan well, in all honesty, ukwon was good and played his role but the dancing wasnt really there. hoya actually played his role and danced and this is coming from a salty ten stan.
스맨파 보고 옴❤
춤 진짜 잘추네
Hoya and ukwon left the most impression on me because they are really scary looking and the concept is devils, and they fufill the concept well. Great expressions on their faces and their dances are great as well!! Hoya though so sexy and so much outburst in his dance. 👏
I agree 👍
i agree with with you
my opinion, he didnt had to get the joker look beacouse it just ruined it and didnt give any feeling of joker.
just a fail.
pretending that i didnt saw this video.
Really..than u not a true JOKER fan..the purple..soo JOKER and that creepy ass laugh dance was WOW...i'm a BIG DC universe fan and i can tell u.. I like that part a lot..it was unique and oooh SOO JOKER..BTW..i'm pretending that i didn't see ur comment as well coz it was soo ASININE..
+Low Key in my opinion u-kwon done a way better job with makeup and hoya's makeup doesn't really portray the joker as much
these batch of dancers were the top caliber of KPOP industry. Hoya Taemin Momo Ten
지금 봐도 너머 조쿠나🥲
Maybe if he didn't dance much he would've scored more than ukwon
*sips tea*
But he did score more than ukwon xD
+Billy Bob oh did he??? I thought ukwon was 2nd?? Or did I misread the scores
I'm laughing so hard at this comment 😂😂😂
LMAOOO SAVAGE
+Rafe lol yea Hoya got 2nd, he beat ukwon by 1 point
Watching this after Coache Hoya team perform in Dancing High ep 5 and I died when he's ripping out his shirt....
May I rest in peace....
I want to be Tae's water bottle same haha
Ok just saw Yukwon's version and this one wins I gotta say fuck Hoya is pure talent. I'm not saying Yukwon isn't but he had too much frivolous showmanship in his stage not enough dancing hehe. Hoya is so raw
Take off your clothes and makeup, and it could have been any other character. It was not a real interpretation of The Joker. He only danced dressed like him, but it was not HIM. U-Kwon was The Joker in all its extension. Even if the UK had not worn the clothes or the painted hair, you would have seen Al Joker in every movement and every facial expression. Please, objectivity is important.
I think Ukwon presented joker better.
I agree. I stan and love both of them but I give it to Hoya. Although Ukwon showed more of the Joker interpretation it was too flashy and not focusing on the dancing part of the *dance* competition imo. He focused more of imitating the Joker that it kinda felt like for his stage he put more effort into the acting and most of the dancing came from the backup dancers which is ok but Hoya balanced it better between the dancing and imitations. He kept the imitations short and brief and showed off more of his actual dancing skills.
Chickenless Nuggets agree tho but i think u kwon's perf is entertaining as well
ARMY-Multifan Squad yes. This is a dancing competition. Not an acting competition
호야 썸네일뭔데 미쳣다
Not just a dancer, a performer. 👏 his stages are like movies. He takes the character and brings them to life. Just like his Greatest Showman performance 😊
Person: "Wyd?"
Me: *smiles* "Oh nothin' much, just watching the Joker dancing shirtless"
i loved Hoya & Ten's performances the most. Taemin did well but not my taste
Well you taste didn't come in first place now did it
Thats why its called preference, dose'nt matter who came in first thats not going to change her preference for Hoya and Ten lol
wtf is wrong with you?? You look like a very arrogant type of fan bruh
I don't care who a person likes she could like king Kong if she wanted to I was saying my opinion and I never said that ten and Goya were not good dancers she have her taste like I have mind so do no go and get all that offended because it really is not that big of a deal ok
True, everyone is allowed an opinion. However what you commented above, 'Well you(r) taste didn't come in first place now did it(?),' can't pass as an opinion. You typed that with the intent to 'Insult and belittle Ju N' for the sake of gloating since your bias won. (Are you a Hoya hater? If he had beat Taemin would you have come in this comment section to hate on him for beating your bias? This is all theoretical but it appears you would've.)This is an example of an opinion: "I enjoyed both Taemin and Hoya's performance, they are very talented. With that being said, Hoya's powerful dance suited my taste more, and thus he did the best in my opinion."I actually haven't seen Taemin's performance yet, but I know he slayed. So I'm off to see that and I hope not to come across anymore egotistical snide remarks like Toni Tate's. Anywho, If Taemin beat Hoya's performance he must have done exceptional as well, since Hoya surpassed my already high expectations for his performance. Hoya was phenomenal!
Hoya did amazing job here with his tough footworks and dont forget he slayed this stage eventhough he's still having ankle therapy during this time . Proud of him.
what do u expect from hoya when every single dancer in his team is a professional choreographer... though he just managed to stand on 2nd place, this stage is insanely incredible 😱😱😱
this ain’t no jared leto joker this a supreme heath ledger inspired version and true jokér :,)
the fact that ukwon still enjoyed his performance warms my heart c:
yeeees exactlyyy
I think it's unfortunate that there were two joker concepts, because who ever performed first usually is seen more favourably as the second performer almost looks like they stole the idea. Such a pity because this was a really great stage!
i know right..by the time i see hoya's make up..i thought..oh no...why look so similar..can they have agreement first?i wonder....?_?
I'm confused I think everyone knows they all planned this alone and the order was decided on the day?
When Hoya and Ukwon went up against eachother, Hoya did take first place from him. So in other words, Hoya beat ukwon
nasty mingyu Of course, that was the problem though. Because they were planned alone, two people ended up with the same concept, so even if people did know this, whoever went second would automatically have the thunder and excitement stolen from their performance because people would naturally be looking for similarities to the first performance.
LittleDrummerChic But fortunately for Hoya, even though they had the same concept and he went second, he won over ukwon so it's quite fortunate for him.
I doing a hoya marathon since the news came out about hoya not renewing his contract in woollim ent.😭
시작부터 끝까지 온몸에 소름돋았다
미쳤다 진짜 전ㄴ나잘생경러
미쳤다.......
lot of 3rd kpop stan saying that their fave is the king of dance but all 2nd gen stan know that it's Hoya!!
저 웃음소리 중독성있다