2017 Honda Pioneer 1000 EPS vs. Kawasaki Mule Pro-FX EPS
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- One of the toughest jobs for a consumer in the off-road market might be finding the right machine for you. The numbers get confusing and the sales pitches are endless, but one thing is for certain; there is a seat for every rear end. In this comparison we take a look at the 2017 Honda Pioneer 1000 EPS and the Kawasaki Mule Pro-FX LE from several directions to help you find the correct machine for every day practicality on the farm or in the trails.
Our testing was compromised of tough terrain as well as hauling with a touch of towing thrown in to mix it up just a little. We also had some very fun trail rides at our leisure after the initial tests and we will share those here as well. We had to keep in mind during this testing that these are two machines possibly separated by manufacturer intent when it comes to the main course of activity. Time to dig in.
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This was an excellent comparison. Thank you!
I've been looking at these 2 models myself - and was struggling to pick one (especially since I cant find one to test drive)! Your review was a big help!
Drove both and researched them hard. Got a Mule and love it, great machine!
Actually a pretty good comparison, but a few things left out that are In my opinion worth considering. Suspension ride quality, the Mule floats like a pillow and is amazing how smooth it is, the Honda does ride pretty good but you can tell little more sporty focus. Noise, the Mule is whisper quiet vs the Honda. Warranty, Honda 1 year, Kawasaki 3 year. While both the Kawi and Honda plants are in the US, Kawasaki wins the "American made" award, with the list of parts made in house much much longer then the Hondas. I know he did say the Mule has a bigger bed, but, it is ALOT bigger. Both SxS's are very capable and fun to drive, both are very reliable. The doors are much nicer then the nets on the Honda as well, Every rancher I know gets rid of the nets, but love the doors. I did love how he emphasized how much tougher the build quality is on the Mule because 1 look at the frame and axles speaks loud and clear it's meant to beat on for decades. In a flat our drag race the Honda will walk the Mule, but as he stated in the hills the Mules much higher torque really closes the gap on the trail. Good comparison.
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Your last comment of your extremely biased response shows a lack of intelligence. So somebody has a different opinion than you do. So what. Who cares? If you were trying to sway people to the pioneer, you failed with your stupidity. I’d be surprised if you actually owned either machine, yet alone both. Just another entitled whiner baby who gets offended because someone has a different OPINION. Opinion being the key word here. It’s like you take personal offense to a different view than your own... Sad.
How about this , I have owned
Honda since 1979. They were the best then , they are the best now .
The one most extremely valuable components to the build of the Honda is that the transmission is gear on gear heavy duty automobile style and not belt-driven like your Kawasaki or any other side by side!🤦
@@gonzobongo6669 which is all well and good but based of the hondas transmission history, massivly expensive when it does go down. We know, have replaced several on 700s, handfull of 1000s and talons now. All or them you have to figure total engine builds as well because of material contamination, 3 oil pumps, rings, hone cylinder or replace if damaged etc etc. We have seen several 700's the oil pump chain fail and total engine catastrophic failure after that. CVTs, $150 (or less) belt and an hour or less (depending on vehicle) and back at it. Are cvts the best? No, is the hondamatic the best? No. It's give and take with each. Comes down to, how much do you want to spend to repair when they do go. 👍
@@HesterEdition Well in your opinion which would you go with- 2016 Honda Pioneer 700 @$7,999 or a 2010 Kawasaki Teryx 750 fi @ $6,999? The Honda 700 I was looking at just had a top end engine rebuilt & I wonder if that included work on the transmission when the dealership did the top end, the same dealership has the 2010 Kawasaki Teryx 750 fi for sale & it's $1,000 less, I could probably talk them down a few more hundred dollars
Pretty well explained, good review.
Have an 07 Kawasaki mule. And while I like the Honda better or the ranger, this thing has 20000 miles on it which is a lot and it is still running very well
You want to sell it
Well honda will have 40k miles on it and it will be worth rebuilding after that many miles because its got the performance
Just bought a used 2015 Mule....glad I did
Honda fanboys always amaze me… rofl!!!
i have the honda pioneer and its awesome at everything i do around the farm and never got it stuck
Just bought a 2021 Honda Pioneer 1000-5. It's a Beast! Working or playing, oh, put it in Sport Mode, Punch it and Hold on!
Thank!
i didn't mind the review and I kind of lean towards a work machine that can include some joy riding... So comfort and quiet are nice features too. With the Mule a slightly larger tire could provide some clearance. No mention of add ons. Of the two I would choose the Mule.
BigRed56 bad choice
Gsfbffx Pdhhdf Triggered again
@Furn333 yea this is the 6th video I seen this lame ass
We tested the 6 seaters of both models. We went with the Kawasaki since it was quieter (we talk when we ride and my hearing isnt the best), it drives like a car, and it has the transitional seating/bed. The engine heat in the back seat of the Honda was rough after riding for a while and we work in the heat. The heat in the Kawasaki is located in the front by the feet. I dont like it but for us it was the better option.
If we did off roading or wanted more performance or a sportier feeling ride, we would've gone with the Honda. But ours is 80% for work around the ranch and 20% riding country roads after dinner.
Nice review. Thanks!
Love my mule. Good rig.
A Honda designed and built engine and a Honda built non-cvt transmission is something that was not mentioned or glazed over. Kawasaki makes some of the best small engines ever made. For the Mule, they contract a Chinese engine.
That did concern us but I met several ranchers with more than 15k miles on their engines. One of them had almost 20k. I didn't find anyone with any issues. We ended up going with the Mule Pro. We've had zero problems but we've had it for 4 days. 😂
The Honda is excellent, but it outperformed the Kawasaki in areas that don't fit our needs.
Wow a review with facts only holy shit than u so much!
Getting a 2020 Honda Pioneer!
Yeah mostly cause they have driveshafts
Thanks very much.
Whay is 1/2 the video focused on the host and the hoods of the damn utv’s we can’t see the UTVs!
Camz316 Because of the big ego of the host. 🐀💩
I say if there is any complaints from non Honda owners. American Honda Motor Co will add some of there Automotive division Technology. To there Powersports division and Yamaha Kawasaki polaris Suzuki all of then can and will kiss there products good. but honda is not mean that pretty much have monopoly on almost any thing that has engine. Been a 7th gen Honda Accord EXV6 since 03. And been so happy with it
Anybody have feedback on belt driven vs gear driven? Kawi being belt driven vs Honda being gear driven. Trying to understand the difference and how this can affect vehicle performance in work vs play scenarios. All comments and recommendations welcome. Thank you!
Wendy Taylor I sold my Mule for the Honda. More options of riding with more power. I never had a problem with the Mule , however If your belt breaks you are finished for the day. He compared the basic Honda vs the loaded Mule. The loaded Honda (the LE) comes with Fox shocks and a lot of other goodies. No comparison. The Honda is the better and faster machine.
Mpg ?
Can u guys make a video from cfmoto zforce 800ex?
JUNK=belt driven cvt!
The biggest thing you left out is the Honda is way more durable because of its gear transmission, if you get your belt wet or slippery conditions your belt will slip if you’re pulling something heavy. If you get stuck in the mud and your belt gets wet it will slip and your tires won’t even spin. And you lose 40% of your horsepower in a belt transmission, that’s what they don’t tell you in the description
🤣😂
I can tell you’ve never used a Kawasaki mule.
Wait..what… no…. I mean.. dont get the belts wet.. its not easy to get the belt wet….
The mule does not have a front diff locker. It is well built but if it don,t have a diff locker in front, stay away from it if it is going to be off road in snow , light mud or Rocky trails.
I dont have a mule, but we go everywhere in 2wd… if you requre 4x4 that often, you may need a tractor.
If you really want to tow and haul, I would not choose a belt drive over a real transmission.
It depends….
A belt isnt THAT bad or hard…
3cyl torque…
In average in maintenance and breakdown
Sounds like this review was brought to you by Kawasaki.
You must be a Honda dealer ....
Kawasaki 4 Life !!!
They make the best UTV`s !!!
I own both and the honda out works and out plays the kawi. Sorry guys theres no way it can compete with 72hp and lower gears and more suspension travel and better build quality and 250 lbs lighter. The honda whoops it bad. But my bruteforce whoops the rubicon 500 just as bad in work and play. I only own honda and kawasaki. Have a mule a teyrx a bruteforce a pioneer a talon and rubicon 500. I bought all of them in 2019 at the same time. 80k i had the option to buy a new work truck for 80k or buy the toys i said fuck it ill never have to buy another off road toy for the rest of my life now. Ill keep my old beater work truck and i guess ill buy a new f350 when i can or when this truck shits the bed. I make around 700 dollars a day after taxes with my carpentry job.
Gsfbffx Pdhhdf so which would be the best choice for ranch work in some rugged country? Be used for work with very little road or trail miles.
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Do you think anybody really cares? Do you feel special now? You need to get a hobby and a real job and stop making up stories. Anyone who would waste their money on buying a bunch of UTV’s is either incredibly stupid, or just an incredibly stupid liar. These machines are not a good investment and anyone who thinks its impressive to brag that they bought a bunch of them for no apparent reason is either a child or a complete idiot. I’m guessing a stupid entitled child. Get a job and enter the real world. It will do you good.
Come on, that is a shot ton of HP difference and you say they are the same when pulling. Lol
what about fuel consumption?
The mule will last you like a month no lie
Honda it is, I'm getting me one...
Robust and belts don’t belong together
Honda for ATV. Kawasaki for UTV.
I've had my mule since 2017. The bigger bed is what makes it for me. I can get 4 100lb bales of hay in it with the tailgate down. 8 to 12 bales stacked.
obviously obvious
Both are nice but there is no comparison on what the better machine is. Honda hands down.
You need to buy a pioneer.
Belt drive is huge disadvantage in my book.
Yes usually but this one is sealed tough!
& Music it dont matter its a pos it will slip
@@wendigo1011 Yeah but belt drives are not good for towing and can cause a terrible surging on down hill descents. Geared is the only sure way to tow as belts can also make it jack knife.
@@robertcastleberry5108 I’m in N TV
Disagree belt is just fine have 7000 km on my belt little to no wear and tow and haul with weekly never had any issue this far.
Why do you have a all fancy mule and a standard 1000 pioneer
You have to play the cards you're dealt sometimes. We are at the mercy of the manufacturers and the available fleet of press vehicles.
ATV.com u idiot then why did u say the pioneer has nets. U know damn well they come with doors if u get the model with them. The honda is much more powerful and can tow uphill much faster. U say the dct is jumpy lol that just means u have no clue how to drive it yet. Redo the review this time make the honda win because i own both and the mule cant touch the honda in anything the honda does everything better
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 you mean your dad owns both
oscar goldman
OMG... I was thinking the exact same thing. 😅😂🤣
If you need a pack of horses with a bigger bed, get the kawasaki, mine does 49 mph top speed on the trails, I can seat 6 people in my ranch, and get any work done and pull anything around the farm I need to, if you want to go fast, jump mogels, climb mountains, climb trees with light work and carry 2 people, get the Honda, but you can carry 5 people, the other 3 need to be kids, I have both, both are reliable, both are fun and most trails won't let you get crazy fast anyways, when my friends go hunting on my land with all their gear, the Honda has to stay behind, they hate the back seats and it won't hold much gear. Just my 2 cents, both are different from each other in good ways, but if I had to choose, kawasaki does more, just a little slower!
His pricing is off. I bought a brand new pioneer 1000-5 deluxe for 14999 out the door.
I got a leftover base model(no power steering) in Feb '20 for $10,770 otd. That was w/ roof & half windshield.
I’ve always been a Honda man. I’m looking at these 2 models, but honestly, I’m leaning more towards the Kawasaki. Does the LE Mule come in Green with Power Steering?
Get the pioneer, they have driveshafts not belts
@@thisseagamer8165 Honda is way better I agree
@@thisseagamer8165 That's NOT answering his question. Geezus!
You are comparing apples vs oranges.
Honda pioneer is better for work and trail. The mule is just a work machine and it’s very slow and rough.
All i want for the mule is the semi automatic gear
pan Del it does not have gears you idiot it has a cvt belt. So u want the worst of everything.
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 sheesh lol he’s saying he wants the mule but without the cvt
why do you guys just drive the machines around and repeat the advertised specs? This is a demo/commercial, not a VS video. Not even a pound of weight put in the bed, no 4wd tests, what gives? Whats the point?
Bring the rope tug of war
Had the 2015 Kawasaki mule 6, was the worse sxs I ever owned. Was not thought out very well before made! Poor fit and finish, cant dump bed with back seat out. Have a 2016 pioneer 1000 now and it is so much better! They do have under seat storage, you have to buy the boxes. Mule is strictly work, or farm.
That’s all it’s supposed to be for
Had both…. It’s like comparing a golf cart to a car…. Buy the Honda
Towing a 14' fiberglass boat want motor is best in the water lot of mile hard working lot of tow very little off road 4wd 6 people mpg power torque and horsepower and towing capacities look for a utv not sure
What?
Get the diesel mule or diesel ranger. Or supe up a pioneer. But that boat prolly weighs over 2k with trailor. Thats why i say get the diesel machine
Pioneer is just better in almost every way
Except if you want to work with it, the additional torque, weight, bed size, suspension make the Mule a lot heavier duty work machine. That's why the Mule was created years and years ago.
Suspension is much better and with more travel on the Pioneer. Power? Hands down the Pioneer will tow much more than the Mule. The pioneer can be used for work and play.Honda wins hands down.
Cory R i dont know where u get the tourque figure from kawi does not advertise it. On a dyno the mule got 40 foot lbs of tourque the pioneer got 56 foot lbs of tourqe. The honda gear on gear transfer energy much much better than rubber belt. Plus it has much more power and two 500cc cylinders. Compared to 3 smaller cylinders. The kawi made the tourqe at 1000 rpm lower in the power band so you win there. But the honda low gear seems lower but it has 6 gears so it goes just as fast in low. And honda build quality and geometry means it can be lighter weight and tow haul just as much. And not have to carry around excess fat with tbe under powered engine like the kawi. Really i own both and in no way does the mule beat the honda. The 10 inch longer bed is a moot point. Sorry to burst your bubble but you bought the wrong machine if u dont have cash to spare like i do. I could buy 4 mules in diff colors if i want.
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 cash to spare like you do? Your parents must have a great job
After looking at both of these machines, I would choose the Canam Defender!
We will have a Can-Am Defender vs. Polaris Ranger comparison coming soon.
wayne owen Honda The Best on Earth 🌏
Can-Am defender came off as cheap and gimmicky to me. Looked at the 4 seater. Also didn’t like the long wheel base. Shifter reminds me of my kids power wheel toys. Throttle response is horrible. Looks cool and had nice seats tho.
Kawasaki all the way
Silly review. Totally different class of machines. Mule is a farm and ranch machine. Pioneer vs. Terex, would be a better comparison...
two beer nope tyrex is more sport. Pioneer is farm.
You moron the pioneer and the mule are both utility/ recreation they are on both sides like a ranger the terryx is sport just like a rzr
Good review for those of us who are looking for their first side by side. So, not silly buy highly relevant to some of us.
The honda will get more parts to be upgraded walker evans on the honda will make it ride better and haul more
Putting the LE model Fox Shocks on my base model Pioneer 1000 this weekend. Will improve ride & capability. Bought it bc it's used 50/50 recreation & work.
Without doing any research, I would buy the Honda. Kawasaki, like GM sells products , that are defective. My conclusion is based on personal experience with a 2018 Kawasaki Mule 4010. I have one that neither the dealer nor a talented small engine repair person can fix. Yes Kawasaki offers competitive features but if the engine doesn't work right, all that is moot.
My Kawasaki had a touchy accelerator but it got better with use.
To much talk about reviewing 2 side by sides at once need to ride and show us what they do so this really wasnt a. Vs between them
Conner Pyles Honda best on Earth 🌏
Is this street legal or not
Hondas bed seems really small
And the Honda will last twice as long
That Kawasaki is so ugly my god ill take Honda Any day.
Why buy ether? For 10k less you could buy an old toyota tacoma with air conditioning a biger bed and its street legal not to mention it will last longer than both a the utvs.
Go away.
What did i do wrong your gustnbeing rude
And it wont go anywhere these smaller utv can go. And utv are street legal and they are open air. And they weigh alot less. And a honda pioneer that is taken care of will last 50k miles of off road use. Lets see a tacoma put 50k miles off road hard use. Then lets see how much it cost to fix it when u try to go where i take my lil sxs
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 just give it up dude
oscar goldman
He can’t give it up. He got suspended from school for telling lies. His feelings are hurt and he needs to lash out at somebody to make himself feel special.
Mule anytime over Honda.
Obviously obvious?
This is a very biased comparison.
Kawasaki now china junk
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