Words are important. Meaning of words are important too. Laws, medicine, everything is determined by words. But the meaning and messages of those words are more valuable. In my philosophical and humble opinion.
@@bitnbyte3319 the physicians are often part of their own medical group. For example, four radiologists form a medical group that a hospital hires to cover their radiology department. So they have more negotiating power
@@Dr.E7HER However, a medical group isn't like an actual union per se. All I know is that the unions from the custodial to the pharmacists almost halted healthcare last year in CA. I haven't heard a medical group for physicians doing the same.
To the administrators a “provider” is anyone who can enter orders that can be billed for. Doesn’t matter who orders the work up. It all pays the same to them. You really nailed it with this one!
And the patients get screwed, as they get stuck with a Doctor...of NURSING PRACTICE...with a tiny fraction of the training of a physician...at the same rate.
For what it’s worth (thank you, @drglaucomflecken) it’s nice to see PAs mentioned as existing by a prominent UA-cam doc for once. Appreciate the shoutout.
I always love the nurse comment because I remember hearing that on a committee and I was like bro. I'm trying to get them to STOP expanding my scope just like im sure other places are trying to get less responsibilities piled on. I'm underpaid and overworked as it is lol. I made 20 dollars an hour working in a city hospital that charge 1000 for an 800 sq ft apartment covered in roaches and crime. Hiring travel nurses at triple my wage who aren't certified for chemotherapy so I ended up doing their job too to no fault of their own. Physicians, PAs and ARNPS/ other providers nurses and even people like CNAs/MAs/Phlebotomists/lab techs work with you! We support you. We may not have your expertise but we have it in our part of the team, we are all in this together and we all suckers to those in cushy office chairs at the top 😮💨our patients, community and we suffer for it. Your scribe who may be your life line may literally not make enough to make ends meet in this economy so remember provider isn't a dirty word its a word that binds you through the same struggle that management uses to put you down! That's how I usually pitch it because most places don't let you talk about your pay with other employees like we make enough for hush money lol🥲
I'm not going to lie. I was scared of this video because of the title. This turned out to be a good video! Solidarity to all workers. Remember that unity and solidarity is how stand up to the machine.✊💪
In the end it doesn't matter what you refer yourself as because we're all under the jurisdiction of business majors with a lower qualification bossing you around.
My friend is in med school so I've gotten the base level of description of a lot of stuff that he's done, and as soon as they started with the "Providers?" thing I knew exactly where it was going.
There’s no intelligent reason to go to medical school anymore. The system essentially functions by taking advantage of those who have the least ability to change it. I expect a relatively big brain drain to come if we continue down this path.
You are becoming an invaluable voice developing class consciousness in the health care community. Your characters disarm the audience through accepted relatively harmless stereotypes while consistently lampooning the United States healthcare model and the underlying capitalist structure allowing the audience to be more receptive to the overall message and truth that is delivered. Brav-fucking-o
Ummm, I am feeling uncomfortably in the middle reading some of these comments! 😂 I work as a department-level admin assistant in healthcare. I love working closely with my team and I've never been even a little bit interested in working at evil admin-bro level. I definitely refer to my entire clinical team as providers. 🤣 We're swamped! When we're thinking or speaking about the team as a whole there's just too many letters and different titles to spend time on unless it's really necessary. Charge Nurse's reaction was my favorite, you know they're gonna get it. On the serious side though... my level of admin, many departmental managers, and even some of the directors I've worked with are just as angry about the obvious, manipulative BS coming from admin-bro. Helping my clinical team to work at the top of their game is my job, and upper admin is always mucking things up! We're right in it with our team, we definitely don't get protected, and we're the ones dropping everything to avoid a crash and somehow make magic happen whenever they suddenly change course or make cuts. 😠🤬 We lost our union at the hospital where I worked in the OR. Everything went as you'd expect. The subtext in this one is very real and hits home. Amazing job as always at highlighting the very silly and also harsh sides of healthcare.
It’s my personal opinion that your tier of management should run the company by committee and elect people to be in overall charge for a specific term and have to be re-elected by peers. No more of these million dollar contracts for executives that no one ever sees
...and I just found myself named VP of a Union...Union...Union. Admin...we're no longer divided. And we're exhausted. And we actually have the credentials to run this institution. Do you?
Once I was working with an anesthesiology group and I was on the phone with an anesthesiologist and didn’t realize and asked him a standard question that pertained only to CRNA’s. I never in my life had heard such offense as when the guy sputtered “I’m a PHYSICIAN!”
Administration. Management. Bureaucracy. Politics. Greed for money, power and control. Thank you for articulating what patients are seeing and experiencing on the receiving end. I'm now actually grateful for not having chosen the medical field as a career. What I am witnessing as a patient is the result of administrators declaring profit more important patient care; dictating how physicians practice medicine; and replacing ER departments with corporate run organizations that mainly send patients away rather than ensure their proper care and treatment. What everyone in the medical community, with the exception of administrators, is experiencing is appalling. Your patients value, appreciate and support you. Thank you for everything you do, especially during these totally crazy times. If administrators would learn to change their priorities to treat people with respect and dignity, there would be less need to unionize.
Scarily accurate DOCTOR G, they all want us to keep infighting instead of banding together. That's the preferred method all the way up to and including the race for president of the USA 😢
UNION UNION UNION! MAKE THE AMA WORK FOR ALL OF US NOT JUST PROCEDURALISTS! Also…most of us took an oath. And as physicians we should be working with all other providers (of which we are a specific subgroup) to PROVIDE the best care. Which means true transparency of organizations and a focus on bettering our (terrible when compared to what we put into it) outcomes for those we treat.
I have been pushing for a middle class union for years now. This is a good example of how the upper class divide and conquer. That have us at each other's throats over bath room bills and mask mandates all the while they get richer.
Yup. Although as an RN, I detest being called a caregiver. It’s comparable to babysitter. Management devalues us with these demeaning terms. I think all healthcare needs a strong nationwide union similar to the teachers union.
As an ICU PA I get talked down to a lot by residents, that is until they need help with putting in central and arterial lines, putting in orders, choosing antibiotics, how to get the nurses to not hate them anymore… we’re all in this together 😂
0:58 - 1:04 This is the part where everyone should be seeing through that bull, tell the higher ups to go sit on a sandpaper cactus and continue to unionize.
I need to add the power and pressure from insurance companies and Medicare that people in the medical field have to contend with along with everything else. I sympathize. That alone is becoming overwhelming.
Remember that physicians are called providers because anyone who generates revenue for a hospital system is considered a provider. Healthcare, covid care, etc…unfortunately it’s all about the bottom line.
Uuum... I am firmly in the physician side of this debate (I especially liked internal medicine's remark on scope of practice), but exactly how should this impair their formation of a union? A union is there to give power to employees against their employer, not employees against each other. If welders, riveters, electricians and technicians manage to get along in one union or pilots and flight attendants, why not physicians, nurses, therapists and assistive personnel?
Ha ha - that's why in the UK we have very powerful Unions for all health care 'providers'! Oh and here we make a distinction between Physicians (those who don't operate) and Surgeons (those who do operate). Physicians are called Doctor and surgeons are Mister (that's why our Dentists aren't called Doctor). Oh except Obstricians and Gynaecologists - always called Doctor for some reason!
Seen this not long ago. 2 girls were talking and the nursing student told her friend "it's fine,this is just one of the things we go through as health-care providers" the 1st year med student replied "Im a doctor not a health-care provider" with an egotistical smile.
And now all i can think about is "I´m a Doctor, not a Psychiatrist!" followed by "I´m a Doctor, not an Escalator!" and ofc the classic "I´m a Doctor, not a Bricklayer!"
Yeah? Well, at least the physicians didn't tell the nurses that nurses were the working class and to not butt in to matters concerning the executive class. In a televised interview broadcast to the entire country. I wish I was exaggerating.
Just finished a mailing list today that's separated out by providers and patients. Aka prescribers and claimants or injured persons and treating physicians... It's a cluster.
omg, this isn't just healthcare humor, this is a metaphor for how the entire world works
I know, right!
True 🥲
Sadly....
Eeeevillll
"Are you gonna let that guy take your cookie?"
I can’t believe you took the entire medicine subreddit and managed to perfectly convey it in just over 2 minutes. Bravo! 👏🏻
Literally hahaha. Man the way they be crying over one word. Its insane
Words are important. Meaning of words are important too.
Laws, medicine, everything is determined by words. But the meaning and messages of those words are more valuable.
In my philosophical and humble opinion.
The man's good.
But has it been linked back to Meddit yet?
Nah this was an absolute L. The term provider is pushing an agenda for sure
I love that Ortho is standing up for his fellow "providers"!
That's the only fake part.
Ortho can hurl the molotovs the best.
Ortho bros is chill. Bro.
He wears an Ortho Women scrub hat. He is an ally.
@@ninjason57 ortho is knee deep in a team of physio, kino and OT. He knows the bros who spot him in the recovery gym.
We need to unite. Union? No union? Providers, physicians . What have you? This hits home. Thanks, Dr. G! Sincerely, OR RN.
At least in CA, everyone in healthcare has a union but the physicians. I wonder why 🤔
@@bitnbyte3319 the physicians are often part of their own medical group. For example, four radiologists form a medical group that a hospital hires to cover their radiology department. So they have more negotiating power
@@Dr.E7HER I love it
Non sequitur: Do you like the OR? On call demanding?
@@Dr.E7HER However, a medical group isn't like an actual union per se. All I know is that the unions from the custodial to the pharmacists almost halted healthcare last year in CA. I haven't heard a medical group for physicians doing the same.
To the administrators a “provider” is anyone who can enter orders that can be billed for. Doesn’t matter who orders the work up. It all pays the same to them. You really nailed it with this one!
And the patients get screwed, as they get stuck with a Doctor...of NURSING PRACTICE...with a tiny fraction of the training of a physician...at the same rate.
This one is just too real.
You sir are a master….able to convey the whole spectrum…from the childlike innocence with ortho to extreme evil with Admin.
For what it’s worth (thank you, @drglaucomflecken) it’s nice to see PAs mentioned as existing by a prominent UA-cam doc for once. Appreciate the shoutout.
I always love the nurse comment because I remember hearing that on a committee and I was like bro. I'm trying to get them to STOP expanding my scope just like im sure other places are trying to get less responsibilities piled on. I'm underpaid and overworked as it is lol. I made 20 dollars an hour working in a city hospital that charge 1000 for an 800 sq ft apartment covered in roaches and crime. Hiring travel nurses at triple my wage who aren't certified for chemotherapy so I ended up doing their job too to no fault of their own.
Physicians, PAs and ARNPS/ other providers nurses and even people like CNAs/MAs/Phlebotomists/lab techs work with you! We support you. We may not have your expertise but we have it in our part of the team, we are all in this together and we all suckers to those in cushy office chairs at the top 😮💨our patients, community and we suffer for it. Your scribe who may be your life line may literally not make enough to make ends meet in this economy so remember provider isn't a dirty word its a word that binds you through the same struggle that management uses to put you down! That's how I usually pitch it because most places don't let you talk about your pay with other employees like we make enough for hush money lol🥲
So true. It happens at every level. With the exception of the CEO's 🤔
Again sir, you have nailed it
I'm not going to lie. I was scared of this video because of the title. This turned out to be a good video! Solidarity to all workers. Remember that unity and solidarity is how stand up to the machine.✊💪
In the end it doesn't matter what you refer yourself as because we're all under the jurisdiction of business majors with a lower qualification bossing you around.
My friend is in med school so I've gotten the base level of description of a lot of stuff that he's done, and as soon as they started with the "Providers?" thing I knew exactly where it was going.
There’s no intelligent reason to go to medical school anymore. The system essentially functions by taking advantage of those who have the least ability to change it. I expect a relatively big brain drain to come if we continue down this path.
You are becoming an invaluable voice developing class consciousness in the health care community. Your characters disarm the audience through accepted relatively harmless stereotypes while consistently lampooning the United States healthcare model and the underlying capitalist structure allowing the audience to be more receptive to the overall message and truth that is delivered.
Brav-fucking-o
This, precisely this, on top of this, mixed with a little more this, and a pinch of exactly-fucking-this.
It actually took me a second because I didn’t understand why he was derailing the conversation but I get it now.
FFS hospital staff, just unionize!
Ummm, I am feeling uncomfortably in the middle reading some of these comments! 😂 I work as a department-level admin assistant in healthcare. I love working closely with my team and I've never been even a little bit interested in working at evil admin-bro level.
I definitely refer to my entire clinical team as providers. 🤣 We're swamped! When we're thinking or speaking about the team as a whole there's just too many letters and different titles to spend time on unless it's really necessary.
Charge Nurse's reaction was my favorite, you know they're gonna get it.
On the serious side though... my level of admin, many departmental managers, and even some of the directors I've worked with are just as angry about the obvious, manipulative BS coming from admin-bro. Helping my clinical team to work at the top of their game is my job, and upper admin is always mucking things up! We're right in it with our team, we definitely don't get protected, and we're the ones dropping everything to avoid a crash and somehow make magic happen whenever they suddenly change course or make cuts. 😠🤬
We lost our union at the hospital where I worked in the OR. Everything went as you'd expect. The subtext in this one is very real and hits home. Amazing job as always at highlighting the very silly and also harsh sides of healthcare.
It’s my personal opinion that your tier of management should run the company by committee and elect people to be in overall charge for a specific term and have to be re-elected by peers. No more of these million dollar contracts for executives that no one ever sees
...and I just found myself named VP of a Union...Union...Union.
Admin...we're no longer divided.
And we're exhausted.
And we actually have the credentials to run this institution.
Do you?
One of the best videos yet 😂😂 scary how accurate this was.
All of your sketches are gold but this one takes the cake. Thank you!
Radiology reminds me of Rick Moranis from spaceballs. Evertime he's on camera brings a little chuckle
Wow that’s probably the best video you’ve made, the home run of home runs
Once I was working with an anesthesiology group and I was on the phone with an anesthesiologist and didn’t realize and asked him a standard question that pertained only to CRNA’s. I never in my life had heard such offense as when the guy sputtered “I’m a PHYSICIAN!”
This is so accurate, it's not just funny....it's painful.
Administration. Management. Bureaucracy. Politics. Greed for money, power and control.
Thank you for articulating what patients are seeing and experiencing on the receiving end. I'm now actually grateful for not having chosen the medical field as a career.
What I am witnessing as a patient is the result of administrators declaring profit more important patient care; dictating how physicians practice medicine; and replacing ER departments with corporate run organizations that mainly send patients away rather than ensure their proper care and treatment.
What everyone in the medical community, with the exception of administrators, is experiencing is appalling.
Your patients value, appreciate and support you. Thank you for everything you do, especially during these totally crazy times.
If administrators would learn to change their priorities to treat people with respect and dignity, there would be less need to unionize.
On point, Dr. G! Just in time for Nurse's Week!
Scarily accurate DOCTOR G, they all want us to keep infighting instead of banding together. That's the preferred method all the way up to and including the race for president of the USA 😢
"physicians! Physicians"
*Cue evil hospital board smile
It is even funnier when you know that "Divide and conquer" is a common technique for cataract surgery
Thank you ortho bro, for sticking with the nurses & other providers. I fear you may not win, but thanks for the effort.
Hell I’m not in healthcare and just here for the humor. You guys need to band together and demand a change.
Nice little easter egg In the title for the fellow Ophthalmologists 👏
I'm not an ophthalmologist. What's the easter egg? Or is this like a secret ophthalmologist handshake that only ophthalmologists are allowed to know?
I love the Charge Nurse
My fav too
And Ortho sticking up for them!
Currently in the Renal unit now, Acid-Base physiology given me headaches.
Omg I love the grin at the end from the evil admin! Kinda like Catbert evil HR from Dilbert. Hilarious and gave me a great laugh at the end!
UNION UNION UNION! MAKE THE AMA WORK FOR ALL OF US NOT JUST PROCEDURALISTS! Also…most of us took an oath. And as physicians we should be working with all other providers (of which we are a specific subgroup) to PROVIDE the best care. Which means true transparency of organizations and a focus on bettering our (terrible when compared to what we put into it) outcomes for those we treat.
Also….why are we letting private equity firms manage healthcare organizations?!
You are genius !!!!!! waw ER doc here ! STAY SAFE ALL !!!!
Okay, but actually a union is a really good idea.
I have been pushing for a middle class union for years now. This is a good example of how the upper class divide and conquer. That have us at each other's throats over bath room bills and mask mandates all the while they get richer.
I love that the last caption says “pointless chanting”
Acid-Base physiology...Nephrology is awesome!!
Beats me how you nail it each time!
The establishment is terrified of the day ortho learns admin is not your bro.
Yup. Although as an RN, I detest being called a caregiver. It’s comparable to babysitter. Management devalues us with these demeaning terms. I think all healthcare needs a strong nationwide union similar to the teachers union.
Boy howdy that turned into class conflict real quick, damn.
As an ICU PA I get talked down to a lot by residents, that is until they need help with putting in central and arterial lines, putting in orders, choosing antibiotics, how to get the nurses to not hate them anymore… we’re all in this together 😂
Wow dude! the situation here in Mexico is too similar!
And the worst thing, this won't have a solution! Everyone gets manipulated!
This is so accurate it’s wild lol
Part of the reason we're seeing more labor organizing is that this tactic (writ large) is finally starting to fail. United we bargain, divided we beg!
0:58 - 1:04 This is the part where everyone should be seeing through that bull, tell the higher ups to go sit on a sandpaper cactus and continue to unionize.
Oh, the residency subreddit is going to hate this one.
"Divide and conquer the land as they did."
Wow…. That was an incredible summary
Dr G goes Superstore. Nice!
This is fckn excellent!
Way too real, man. Way too real...
I need to add the power and pressure from insurance companies and Medicare that people in the medical field have to contend with along with everything else.
I sympathize. That alone is becoming overwhelming.
Amazon would be proud.
“Workers of the world, divide into tiny factions and argue about minor shit while Capitalism devours the planet!”
Wow!!!! Divide and conquer….union, union, union
Union! Union! Union! Union!
🤣🤣🤣
To the public, I’m you’re provider. To my colleagues I’m an NP. I respect physicians. They went through a lot.
Remember that physicians are called providers because anyone who generates revenue for a hospital system is considered a provider. Healthcare, covid care, etc…unfortunately it’s all about the bottom line.
I can't ignore how admin bro is more handsome than the physicians bro
So so true. Sad, but true.
Will you make a Jonathon playlist for your channel?
I wish to learn all about the Jonathon clone war army
*eating popcorn* This is fascinating.
Uuum... I am firmly in the physician side of this debate (I especially liked internal medicine's remark on scope of practice), but exactly how should this impair their formation of a union? A union is there to give power to employees against their employer, not employees against each other. If welders, riveters, electricians and technicians manage to get along in one union or pilots and flight attendants, why not physicians, nurses, therapists and assistive personnel?
Exactly!!!
I want to like it because your amazing but it makes me wanna cry it's true
sadly, so true it hurts
Ha ha - that's why in the UK we have very powerful Unions for all health care 'providers'! Oh and here we make a distinction between Physicians (those who don't operate) and Surgeons (those who do operate). Physicians are called Doctor and surgeons are Mister (that's why our Dentists aren't called Doctor). Oh except Obstricians and Gynaecologists - always called Doctor for some reason!
Thankfully we have a union (AFGE) where we work at.
Dang, there was some harsh truth in that one
😏smirk at end says it all😼
PHYSICIANS AND EVERYONE ELSE AM DYING BEING AS THOUGH AM A NURSE OMG👍🏽❤️
Brilliant
That one's the sinister one. First i sided with The Kid Bro going to Theraphy but this one... just no.
These are all so funny....spot on about the whole "provider" thing.
Thats so true, and in so many countries
Brilliant yet tragic.
Another acceptable “read me” would be to make a monthly mandatory union/admin meeting that didn’t count toward CME.
Ah yes, divide and conquer.
Was there ever a more succinct subtitle than, “(Pointless chanting)”?
Daaaaaayyyuuuummmmm
Misdirection always works to divide and conquer!
Union!Union!Union!
Seen this not long ago. 2 girls were talking and the nursing student told her friend "it's fine,this is just one of the things we go through as health-care providers" the 1st year med student replied "Im a doctor not a health-care provider" with an egotistical smile.
And now all i can think about is "I´m a Doctor, not a Psychiatrist!" followed by "I´m a Doctor, not an Escalator!" and ofc the classic "I´m a Doctor, not a Bricklayer!"
Oh my God please tell me you have a venmo so I can give you money for this wonderful wonderful video!
Workers of the world unite.
Yeah? Well, at least the physicians didn't tell the nurses that nurses were the working class and to not butt in to matters concerning the executive class. In a televised interview broadcast to the entire country. I wish I was exaggerating.
🤣🤣🤣, on a side note in the UK they think 5,500 physiotherapist have failed to renew on the legal register. Yep keep squeezing those staff members!
Yes! This is real life.
Nice
This technique used by 1st yr pg for cataract sx
Divide and conquer
Yeah... now, scale that up to encompass an entire country. Same exact trick.
Just finished a mailing list today that's separated out by providers and patients. Aka prescribers and claimants or injured persons and treating physicians... It's a cluster.
So true and so real.