Haunted Theology -How the Ghost of Marcion Haunts the Modern Church | Dr. Douglas Hamp

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  • A haunted house is often perceived as being inhabited by disembodied spirits of the deceased who may have been former residents. We have a haunted theology today - it is inhabited by a spirit of Marcion, a 2nd century heretic, who continues to exert influence over how some Christians read their Bible.
    Dr. Hamp earned his M.A. in the Bible and its World from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and PhD in Biblical Studies from Louisiana Baptist University. He served as a pastor at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, CA where he lectured and developed curriculum at the School of Ministry, Spanish School of Ministry and Calvary Chapel Bible College Graduate School. He has authored numerous books, articles, & DVDs and has appeared on TV, radio, and online in English and in Spanish. He pastors the Way Congregation in Lakewood.
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  • @xoneeleven
    @xoneeleven 5 років тому +13

    Finally, someone else is teaching these facts about Marcion. I have been telling people about this topic for a couple years. Thank you, Doug, for this presentation.

  • @linda81197
    @linda81197 5 років тому +28

    Praying for you Doug, you teach excellent sermons of GODS truth. I know you get lots of flack and many come against anyone promoting keeping the law once saved. We are clearly saved by Gods Grace through our faith in Jesus Christ. Once saved, Yeshua said if you love me, keep MY commandments. ❤️

    • @skeeterburke
      @skeeterburke 5 років тому

      I saw Doug Hamp on ARA so I thought I'd check it out... good stuff!

  • @teresalee9997
    @teresalee9997 5 років тому +11

    Great word.. many thanks for teaching the truth and it's correct perspective.

  • @angelaryanrnbsn2764
    @angelaryanrnbsn2764 5 років тому +5

    WoW!! I have been trying to spread the word on Marcion's infiltration and anti-semitic theology that has plagued the 'church' for over 1900 years. THIS is an excellent teaching. SO excited to FIND your work Dr. Doug Hamp! I submitted to Torah observancy in 2016 after nearly 7 years of being challenged and challenging the Father in HOW to Love him with all my heart, all my soul, all my strength. So excited to GRow with you!!

  • @louisebrislane6607
    @louisebrislane6607 2 роки тому +3

    The one thing that struck me when I started to read the Scriptures through from cover to cover a few years ago & gradually have tossed away my church roots which by listening to you discovered to my horror were based in Marcia-ism; was that Jesus, Himself tightened up the 10 commandments by saying that you were taught if a man hated his brother then - now just thinking it in his heart was sin. So Jesus was making it a heart issue, not just an outward issue. So in my understanding, the law we live under is more difficult to keep without the help of the Holy Spirit in our lives. Then He summed up the 10 commandments into 2 commandments, loving God & loving our neighbour. So listening to you today shows me that man has done nothing more than divide up the Word of a Holy God who declares that He never changes. So how dare we the creature decide what God our Creator meant when He had His words put into writing to be passed down to all generations so that we might be without excuse on the day of judgment. So I think on the day of Christ's judgment of each one of us, that many so-called theologians are going to be in a lot of HOT water & maybe even lose their salvation for leading so many astray by their incorrect teaching. This is why once I started reading the Scriptures for myself, I decided to ditch all that I had been taught over the past 40 plus years & just read the Word faithfully over & over again whilst daily asking the Holy Spirit to teach me the truth. Listening to the prophecy roundtable has shown me that I used to live under some really strange belief systems before I walked away from my past. Yes, I do attend a church but I don't always agree with the ministers interpretation of the Scriptures but that is only because I read them for myself over & over again, year in & year out & so no longer depend on the speakers interpretation to base my faith on. My one regret is that I never started reading it from Genesis to Revelation 40 plus years ago but out of laziness if I am to be honest, I went along with what I was taught by my church like many millions still do today.

  • @linak7155
    @linak7155 5 років тому +9

    Great message!

  • @susiwakeman4271
    @susiwakeman4271 5 років тому +5

    As always Dr Hamp, you and your teaching are absolutely fantastic x thank you for presenting the truth and not tickling our ears in your inspired, knowledgeable and insightful way x God, El Shaddai is my Heavenly Father and such; as a parent, gives us consistency, continuity, unconditional love and boundaries, and as a parent of more than one would shepherd his family to be as one x thank you Dougie, you are an amazing and God-sent man xx

  • @carolindalancaster3934
    @carolindalancaster3934 5 років тому +5

    We need more godly men like you, Doug, that dedicate their lives in studying, researching and imparting, rightly dividing the Word and understanding "complicated" Rav Shaul...we thank Yeshua for this brilliant gift of teaching coupled with humility HE has placed in you....We are supporting you not only in word but in deed (tithes and/or offerings)...

    • @Doughamp
      @Doughamp  5 років тому

      It was so great chatting with you!

  • @blakewillison9134
    @blakewillison9134 5 років тому +9

    Doug, I want to thank you for a great STUDY on the history of the early doctrinal errors and why these things are so widely accepted and taught to day, and sadly believed today by many people who do not take the time to test themselves or their teachers. I pray that others who watch this teaching will use it in there own local bible studies and teach others about this deadly deception that is spreading like wild fire within the churches today. It is the same lie that was from the beginning, God did not really mean what he said!
    Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
    Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
    Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
    Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
    Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
    Joh 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
    Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
    Joh 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
    Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
    Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
    Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
    Joh 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
    Joh 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
    Be strong people and do not deny the foundation of our faith. Amen.

  • @zabulonasselin4253
    @zabulonasselin4253 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for this research Doug, I pray it gets to those who need to hear it.

  • @rhondawalker2020
    @rhondawalker2020 5 років тому +2

    I wondered where this got started! Thanks!

  • @lucindareppert9503
    @lucindareppert9503 6 місяців тому

    Very good teaching and answers a lot of questions concerning the disunity among believers .

  • @bboness713
    @bboness713 2 роки тому +1

    Foundational truth! It's hard to even find a church that doesn't preach Marcion and engage in all the pagan holidays. When we return to sanctification and celebrate the feasts of the Lord, having the Torah written on our hearts, we will again set the world in fire like the apostles did teaching Genesis through Malachi with the testimony of Jesus.

  • @blakewillison9134
    @blakewillison9134 5 років тому +5

    Doug , This is such an important teaching, I have posted before here on this study, but wanted to also point out that many people only use the KJV companion bible, as I also have for many years. It has been a great study tool. I wanted to point out that a lot of the commentary is from Bullinger and he also was influenced by this theology. check out
    THE DISPENSATIONAL POSITION OF
    JOHN'S GOSPEL; or,
    THE FIG, THE OLIVE, AND THE VINE
    BY DR. BULLINGER, JULY, 1899
    Some quotes are as follows; So that while the truths of John's Gospel may be found in the Epistles, the special
    church-truths are not found in John.
    When the Church has been removed, Yahweh's dealings on the earth will be with
    Jew and Gentile as such.
    Yahweh will be again dealing with His people Israel, and the godly remnant will
    need special Scriptures for that time. The Law, with the "Song of Moses " (Deut.32), will
    tell them of Yahweh's goodness and of Israel's rebellion . We thus learn the true dispensational position of the gospel of John, and have the
    key to its teaching: and if we rightly divide it we shall not use the truth of John 15 to upset
    the truth of Romans 8 as to our own present standing in Christ: nor set those two chapters
    in opposition, and then seek to explain away the difficulty which we have ourselves
    created through failing to rightly divide the word of Truth.
    Doug please Keep up the good works of YHVH's truth and speaking out on these key false man made theology teachings.

  • @juancordova8509
    @juancordova8509 Рік тому

    Great conference.

  • @laughliketheflowers
    @laughliketheflowers 5 років тому +2

    One of the most important corrections ever made. The protestants went less than half way. Doug is simply carrying on their great struggle, with more information and with hindsight. This is no-brainer stuff if, like me, you were outside the Marcionist organizations that have trapped almost all believers. I was disturbed that my brothers and sisters never held me to anything the Saviour told us to do. Did they really believe His words? No, they didn't.

  • @childoffather2497
    @childoffather2497 4 роки тому +2

    I am trully enjoying your sermons!

  • @scottintexas
    @scottintexas 5 місяців тому

    Excellent presentation, so important! We see more and more denominations and individual congregations “falling away” bc of Marcionism, or having done away with obedience to Torah. Thus, there is no absolute standard, no Truth.

  • @tommykeefer1307
    @tommykeefer1307 5 років тому +4

    When Yeshua was asked about the law , he doubled down. If you look upon a woman...

  • @linak7155
    @linak7155 5 років тому +9

    The Torah is YeHoVaH's ♥!
    His ways are perfect!

  • @tommykeefer1307
    @tommykeefer1307 5 років тому +3

    The Logos, the Word, The Torah was nailed to the cross. Yeshua was nailed to the cross. He died. AND HE WAS RESURRECTED AND SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. Word, Torah,Yeshua, Logos, The law. Not one jot or tittle shall pass away,till... Shall the branch separate from the root. Good job The law is good it protects me.

  • @tommykeefer1307
    @tommykeefer1307 5 років тому +1

    If (when) we sin we have an advocate. When we sin, we confess and he is faithful and just to forgive us. This begs the question. What is this sin. The breaking of the law is sin.

  • @michmouth
    @michmouth 2 роки тому +2

    Question: if Paul didn’t think the law was still in effect after Jesus’s death, why did he take men to do sacrifices in the temple after Jesus was already gone ? Acts 21:26. He also kept Yom Kipper 27:9-10. Why mention the day of atonement if Jesus did away with His Feast days? Start learning and doing the feasts of God, starting with the sabbath instead of the Sun god’s day. The big picture of salvation will be shown to you by doing and then you will understand what is really going on.

  • @onefeather2
    @onefeather2 5 років тому +1

    Wow, great teaching, I have listened to Mr Steve on Calvary Chapel tri cities is that the same Calvary chapel mentioned?? If so I will be more careful when listening.

  • @JRJohnson1701
    @JRJohnson1701 10 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed this video, and your appearance with Michael Rood, and I'm trying to get back to a more authentic form of Christianity. So, I have questions: Are Christians required to keep all the 613 commandments, and the punishments for breaking them (stoning, etc)? If not, why not? Is that because Christ took the punishment away at the cross? Can you say what else the various forms of Christianity, such as Catholicism, get wrong so as to avoid their pitfalls?

  • @debraprice8453
    @debraprice8453 5 років тому +1

    The laws were not abolished. We are still to follow them. The Ten Commandments are still valid. Obey them. But along with those THE SON BROUGHT US A FEW MORE IN THE NEW COVENANT. THE GOLDEN RULE. TREAT PEOPLE THEY WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. WE NO LONGER HAVE TO SACRIFICE ANY ANIMALS BECASE. THE SON WAS THE MOST PERFECT LAMB. HIS SACRIFE ONLY HAD TO BE DONE ONCE. WE ARE FREE BY THE LAMB'S SACRIFICE FOR US. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE ANY MORE. THE SON ALSO SAID LIVE OTHER AS YHE LIVES YOU. NO QUALIFICATIONS. NOR DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN. ANYONE OR ANYTHING. LOVE ALL. THERE'S ONE FORGIVE EVERYONE FOR THE WRONG EITHER YOU PRECEIVE THAT WAS DONE OR WHAT ACTUALLY DONE. NO MATTER. FORGIVE!!! AS HE FORGIVES US. HIW CAME WE EXPECT IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO IT?

  • @cyndiduke6626
    @cyndiduke6626 5 років тому

    Thank you for what I came to by reading the Bible front to back. My question is, Jesus said if someone says he's in the desert, don't believe them. Yet Paul went to the desert for instruction. Raises a big flag for me. I'm struggling with his letters, especially because nobody knows what he is letters responded as far as questions.

  • @robertzuniga1258
    @robertzuniga1258 4 роки тому

    Do you know of any material on this topic in Spanish?

  • @BrandiNaCole
    @BrandiNaCole 5 років тому +1

    Joseph Prince admitted that it wasn't a voice that was a witness of the Spirit, but it was the voice of the Lord and he listened to it anyway? That is confusion. I would've never listened to him again after that. He just blatantly told on himself that he doesn't know the Lord.
    Jesus made it clear that Holy Spirit would glorify and testify about HIM...there is no room for 2 different voices.
    I cannot with these people man, I'm done.
    (Continuing watching)

  • @Zazquatch1
    @Zazquatch1 20 днів тому

    Love it!
    Q - When will you go in to Eusebius and his made-up 3,5 year ministry of Yeshua..?

  • @tommykeefer1307
    @tommykeefer1307 5 років тому

    I view death is a mercy killing when Yeshua s sacrifice is rejected.

  • @danieljohnson6795
    @danieljohnson6795 2 роки тому

    You said in this teaching that Paul’s writings were a commentary on earlier scripture like the gospels… true?

    • @Doughamp
      @Doughamp  2 роки тому

      The point is that Paul does not have authority like Jesus does. Paul cannot make up new doctrines, as some have suggested. Rather, as a Bible scholar, he is explaining and instructing his churches in what Scripture (God's already revealed Word) actually means. I hope that helps clarify.

  • @linda81197
    @linda81197 5 років тому +8

    Here's the New Covenant - does not seem God is doing away with HIS laws, in fact the opposite! Read the New Covenant then ask yourself again, did God do away with the Law? JEREMIAH 31:31-34 - 31“Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. 33“But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34“They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the LORD, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.” We Gentiles are grafted into this New Covenant just like the House of Judah and the House of Israel, into one new man. Not Jew or gentile, not one law for the Jews and one for the Gentiles, one law - one new man in our LORD Jesus Christ - Praise GOD! ❤️

    • @Keturah53
      @Keturah53 5 років тому +4

      overcomer Yeshua correct! Yahweh never made the covenant with gentiles, however, gentiles are invited into the covenant through Y'Shua. ..the terms have never changed.

    • @BrandiNaCole
      @BrandiNaCole 5 років тому +1

      Amen 💖

    • @firesteel01
      @firesteel01 3 роки тому

      You realize that Israel is not yet restored, right? Actual Israel is out there somewhere. When they are brought back they will join Judah and be one.
      Nonetheless, the 12 tribes have been a mixed multitude since the exodus, and Yahweh has been clear that the stranger and sojourner are welcome to worship Him and uphold His ways and reap the same reward as Jacob.
      Just saying that Christianity has been very quick to rush to claim the new covenant.

    • @linda81197
      @linda81197 3 роки тому

      firesteel01 in each generation GOD has a remnant which die and new generations are brought forth - each generations remnant come into GODS Kingdom - the Commonwealth of Israel - under the New Covenant as one New Man in Yeshua Messiah - at the end of the age all will be risen in new immortal bodies - all who are in the with Covenant Yeshua Messiah are grafted into the Commonwealth of Israel and Adopted as Sons and Daughters as GODS Children by HIS Holy Spirit dwelling in them - this is the New Covenant.. 😀

    • @firesteel01
      @firesteel01 3 роки тому

      @@linda81197 OK so let's see. . .you cite God's word through the prophet Jeremiah which says literally that God will make the new covenant with Israel and Judah. You know (I think) that lost Israel has not been identified and the two house have not been restored (one stick).
      Yet you overrule God's word with some Pauline gibberish about one new man because you want the new covenant now and reject God's offer to you under the original covenant which gives you Torah and grace!
      With all due respect, you should watch the video again. Holding Paul as the ultimate authority was mentioned.
      May YHWH grant you peace and clarity and guide your walk.
      shalom

  • @kimwestwood8840
    @kimwestwood8840 3 роки тому

    Brother can you please do a teaching explaining the Clementine Homilies and how these have deceived unstable people to turn from the bible and Paul's teachings? I think someone needs to clarify what laws Christians are expected to keep. There are laws commanding us to stone adulterers and that isnt what Yeshua teaches us.

  • @7thheaventruth
    @7thheaventruth 5 місяців тому

    In the book of John chapter 1, it clearly says Moses was given the law, and Jesus has given grace and truth read it yourself

  • @stevenvarani1823
    @stevenvarani1823 5 років тому +1

    Hi Doug, I really enjoyed this video but at 1:56, you mentioned Yeshua's ministry was 3-1/2 years. I've heard otherwise. Do you have any teachings that discuss this teaching?

    • @skeeterburke
      @skeeterburke 5 років тому +1

      Hmm. I think about Marcion and that verse about having a millstone tied around your neck and being cast into the sea... Yah have mercy on his soul....

    • @lucindareppert9503
      @lucindareppert9503 10 місяців тому

      It talks about this in NC Scripture.

  • @skeeterburke
    @skeeterburke 5 років тому

    Amein, brother, we war not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities and whatnot (MLV) My Loose Version. The MLV is a mix of KJV, NIV, catholic and baptist teachings, maybe some Shakespeare or Mark Twain, ... oh, and the MLV doesn't have chapter and verse, and if it has a book reference it's often the wrong one

  • @inkman622
    @inkman622 5 років тому

    I’m not against Paul for anything you covered here. My issue with Paul is 1 Corinthians 8. He told people it was ok to do something that is strictly forbidden, so everything else Paul says is now null and void. I wrestled for many years with that, but at the end of the day YHVH is my God and Yahshua is my king so I must listen to them above everyone else. Idolatry is forbidden in any way shape or form.

    • @Doughamp
      @Doughamp  5 років тому +1

      Interesting. I think Paul is saying that if something was sacrificed to an idol, but a person is completely unaware of that and eats the meat with no knowledge of it being sacrificed to an idol, then it isn't breaking the commandment. If a person DOES know it was done for an idol then it is breaking the commandment. He is actually trying to apply the commandment - something none of us have probably ever had to do in our daily lives.

    • @inkman622
      @inkman622 5 років тому

      I for sure think there is a big difference between willful sin and ignorant sin. But I don’t see that being talked about here. What I do see Paul teaching though is that an idol is nothing so if you eat food that was sacrificed to it, it’s not a sin because you have some kind of ‘knowledge’. But if your brother doesn’t have this ‘knowledge’ or they are weak then you can’t eat it.

    • @inkman622
      @inkman622 5 років тому

      I think we do encounter these things in our daily lives but we have been taught that it’s not an issue. Christians run around with their idols all the time. It’s just a cross now instead of a golden calf.

  • @lucindareppert9503
    @lucindareppert9503 10 місяців тому

    It was the curse of the law nailed to the cross not his Words in Torah.

  • @goldrays5119
    @goldrays5119 5 років тому

    We do everything we can to find our way back to heaven, so that Gods grace who is in Christ can fill in the rest, because we all fall short of the glory of God. To understand the keys of heaven, its where heaven and earth meet in the bible. So to understand what Christs mission was, we read what it was he had to do, and who from heaven he spoke with. If Christ were to remove the old ways, he would have avoided the temple, having no reason to go there. But instead Christ came to restore the temple, showing this with what he said in the temple with what God receives, and what kings receive. In other words, the statutes were lost with what was done inside the temple. There being no difference being alive or dead, when we start, except with priests, the connection with the dead, is for life. Was it better to not flood the world, so that Noah and his family could die, and the things of God lost forever? Or that most all should die, and be saved afterward? The Jews did not want to do this, and the king did not, so they lost their temple, so that all should die, because there being some to do what apostle Paul said to do with the dead.

  • @watchmankr2216
    @watchmankr2216 3 роки тому +1

    The law is not annulled!! 🥺That’s a false teacher! “ Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.” Matt.5:Folk better stop listening to these flawed humans and start listening to the Holy Spirit who promises to lead us into all truth and show us things to come! John 16:13 There’s consequences for “adding and taking away” from the Bible! Rev.22:18-19 “ For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” ❤️💯😒

  • @davehammond9796
    @davehammond9796 5 років тому

    Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept UNDER THE LAW, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
    Gal 3:24 Wherefore the LAW was our schoolmaster to bring us UNTO Christ, that we might be justified by FAITH.
    Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER under a schoolmaster(law).

    • @Doughamp
      @Doughamp  5 років тому

      So what is your point?

    • @davehammond9796
      @davehammond9796 5 років тому +1

      Rom 3:28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

    • @ashqelon7267
      @ashqelon7267 5 років тому +1

      "NO LONGER under a schoolmaster"Means the fulfillment of internalizing salvation thru faith as individual attainment as per what was prophesied the new and living way to have acceptance to YHVH.The external ways thru a Priest is NO longer necessary!That's what is being said there.Romans 3-28 - It does not interpret a ""blanket out excuse"" to justify of Violate what example principles Yeshua showed us all to OBEY and keep like he did.We never were resolved to obey or follow instruction that make us his people. The new and living way makes us the clay figures to form INTO what we were meant to be but lost thx to Adam-Eve SIN.It is one long redemption plan......Yeshua became the Torah word manifest into flesh etc, (I know you know this) followed the Torah as example and all 12 Apostles also kept fully in the entire books of Acts.They cited referenced spoke quoted verbatim plenty of the Torah.Revelation 22:18-19 forbids us tampering the Torah, is from Deuteronomy chapter 4 & 6 the exact same.Because they knew and all referenced Torah timeless salvation concepts.The OT was not a fully public available comprehensive ability to "know the creator" yet now we all my known him deeply, personally, equal to any of the prophets ever did, now, and this is parts of the Good News!!!

    • @davehammond9796
      @davehammond9796 5 років тому +1

      Again,...Rom 3:28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

    • @joegim7680
      @joegim7680 5 років тому

      @@davehammond9796 Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

  • @richardperth2002
    @richardperth2002 5 років тому

    WHY keep the Sabbath day? What is the object of the Sabbath? Who made it? When was it made, and for whom? Which day is the true Sabbath? Many keep the first day of the week, or Sunday. By what Bible authority have they for this? Some keep the seventh day, or Saturday. What Scripture have they for that? Here are the facts about both days, as plainly stated in the Word of God:
    60 Bible Facts on the
    Seventh day of the Week
    1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, God rested on the seventh day. Genesis 2:1-3.
    2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.
    3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.
    4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. Genesis 2:3.
    5. He sanctified the seventh day. Exodus 20:11.
    6. He made it the Sabbath day in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 2:1-3.
    7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.
    8. Jesus says it was made for man, that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited; hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jew. Mark 2:27.
    9. Not only is the Sabbath made for man, but Jesus said that He was Lord of the Sabbath. Mark 2:28.
    10. It is a memorial of creation. Exodus 20:11; 31:17. Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event.
    11. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.
    12. It is not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a Jew.
    13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath, but always "the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God's holy rest day.
    14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath and the seven-day week all through the patriarchal age. Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10,12; 29:27,28, etc.
    15. It was a part of God's law before Sinai. Exodus 16:4,23-29.
    16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. Exodus 20:1-17. Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?
    17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. Deuteronomy 4:12,13.
    18. Then He wrote the commandment with His own finger. Exodus 31:18.
    19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. Deuteronomy 5:22.
    20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. Deuteronomy 10:1-5.
    21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. Exodus 34:21.
    22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. Ezekiel 20:12,13.
    23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from the false gods. Ezekiel 20:20.
    24. God promised that Jerusalem should stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath. Jeremiah 17:24,25.
    25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. Nehemiah 13:18.
    26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. Jeremiah 17:27.
    27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who will keep it. Isaiah 56:6,7.
    28. This is in the prophecy which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. See Isaiah 56.
    29. God has promised to bless all who keep the Sabbath. Isaiah 56:2.
    30. The Lord requires us to call it "honourable." Isaiah 58:13 Beware, you who take delight in calling it the "old Jewish Sabbath," "a yoke of bondage," etc.
    31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down "many generations," it is to be restored in the last days. Isaiah 58:12,13.
    32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.
    33. When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. Luke 4:16; John 15:10. Thus He followed His Father's example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?
    34. The seventh day is the Lord's day. See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.
    35. Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28), that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her. 1 Peter 3:6.
    36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man's good. Mark 2:23-28.
    37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. Matthew 12:1-13.
    38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was "lawful." Matthew 12:12.
    39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. Matthew 24:20.
    40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. Luke 23:56.
    41. Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it "the sabbath day." Acts 13:14.
    42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the "sabbath day" in A.D. 45. Acts 13:27. Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?
    43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the "sabbath day." Acts 13:44.
    44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. Acts 13:42.
    45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 49, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "sabbath day." Acts 15:21.
    46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. Acts 16:13.
    47. Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. Acts 17:2,3.
    48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. Acts 17:2,3.
    49. The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. See Acts 13:14,44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4,11.
    50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.
    51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?
    52. But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. "Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?
    53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, "the sabbath day."
    54. Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.
    55. God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use the seventh day for common labor?
    56. No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of the kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?
    57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day?
    58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. Isaiah 66:22,23.
    59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. See Exodus 20. When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." Matthew 5:17.
    60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same time they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.
    40 Bible Facts on the
    First Day of the Week
    1. The very first thing recorded in the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. Genesis 1:1-5. This was done by the Creator Himself. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?
    2. God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. Exodus 20:8-11. Is it wrong to obey God?
    3. None of the patriarchs kept it.
    4. None of the holy prophets ever kept it.
    5. By the express command of God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.
    6. God Himself calls it a "working" day. Ezekiel 46:1.
    7. God did not rest upon it.
    8. He never blessed it.
    9. Christ did not rest upon it.
    10. Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence, He did many a hard day's work on Sunday.
    11. The apostles worked upon it during the same time.
    12. The apostles never rested upon it.
    13. Christ never blessed it.
    14. It has never been blessed by any divine authority.
    15. It has never been sanctified.
    16. No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. "Where no law is, there is no transgression." Romans 4:15. See also 1 John 3:4.
    17. The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.
    18. No penalty is provided for its violation.
    19. No blessing is promised for its observance.
    20. No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?
    21. It is never called the Christian Sabbath.
    22. It is never called the Sabbath day at all.
    23. It is never called the Lord's day.
    24. It is never called even a rest day.

    • @richardperth2002
      @richardperth2002 5 років тому

      25. No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?
      26. It is simply called "first day of the week."
      27. Jesus never mentioned it in any way, never took its name upon His lips, so far as the record shows.
      28. The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.
      29. Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men ever said one word in favor of Sunday as a holy day.
      30. The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1,19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.
      31. Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.
      32. Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. 1 Corinthians 16:2.
      33. In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day, and even this was a night meeting. Acts 20:5-12.
      34. There is not an implication that they ever held a meeting upon it before or after that.
      35. It was not their custom to meet on that day.
      36. There was no requirement to break bread on that day.
      37. We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. Acts 20:7.
      38. That was done in the night-after midnight. Acts 20:7-11. Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day. Acts 2:42-46.
      39. The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which contradicts the law of God. Matthew 15:1-9. Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. Romans 6:3-5.
      40. Finally, the New Testament is totally silent with regard to any change of the Sabbath day or any sacredness for the first day.
      Here are one hundred plain Bible facts upon this question, showing conclusively that the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord in both the Old and New Testament.
      You may now be asking yourself, is all of this important, does it really matter? Well, let me close with this verse."Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Rev. 22:14.

    • @stephengregory5122
      @stephengregory5122 5 років тому

      Re: pt 6 above: Please read all of Ezekiel 46:1 because there is a big problem there for your implied assertion that the Sabbath is somehow linked to the modern Gregorian weekly cycles. You will notice that the gate of the inner temple will be open on the Sabbath day AND New Moon day - how does that work because the gates are closed on the 6 working days! There are 4 weekly Sabbaths each lunar month so you have a problem if you do not observe the New Moon day(s) as distinct day(s) separate from the weekly cycles. Allow the scriptures to reveal the true 7th day Sabbath and Hebrew weeks instead of starting with assumptions and you will be blessed.

  • @cohencyrus5337
    @cohencyrus5337 5 років тому

    hey Doug how do you explain Mathew 5:19 .
    so God is saying that even if we dnt obey HIS commandments , some will make it in the kingdom but they will the" least in the kingdom "
    is it bad to be the least in heaven but not in hell?
    or it's meaning sth else coz my interpretation is in contradiction with all other verses ( those that don't keep the instructions of Lord shall not get to the tree of life Rev 22)
    thanks

  • @geraldcortez826
    @geraldcortez826 9 місяців тому

    Nothing wrong with keeping the commandments. But you are wrong if you judge others by foods to eat or holy days. Paul says not to judge people by foods or holy days. One keeps a day to the Lord. Another doesn't keep a holy day. But both keeps or doesn't keep it both do it to the Lord. either believe the Bible or you don't. Acts has Paul and Peter and James say the holy spirit seems good to not to put any further burden on the gentles as this. That you keep from fornication and don't eat blood or eat things sacrificed to gods. If you do these things you do well. And Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man and not the man for the Sabbath.
    And even the first century church father said. That it was first our Lord Jesus that said, we should Sabbatzie every day.
    You Hebrew roots, and 7th day church. Is wrong and you want to judge others just because of a day. We should worship God every day. This is also why the stupidest thing about the mark of the beast being Sunday because people hold on to a day. Love your God with all your heart and mind and soul and strength. That means all the time. Jesus said I will have mercy rather than sacrifice. Even the dead sea scrolls people were looking forward to the age of grace. Hundreds of years before Christ came.
    We are saved by grace alone, but faith is a action, and we obey Jesus because of love and our belief in Him. We must obey Jesus Christ. We are under the new testament contact. If you judge you will be judged as Jesus said. I truly don't understand how people try to do things that have been told to us we don't have to do it. If you want to cool. But it's not going to make us any closer to God.
    You either believe the whole of the bible or you don't 💯 I enjoy your teaching but you are wrong to tell people we must do certain things. We keep Jesus words and Paul teached what Jesus teachings. We can't judge others because no matter how good we think we are we still fail to keep the law. Do our best, but we don't get grace without giving grace, we are judge if we judge. We must walk that narrow way, being squeezed on by sides on the right hand we have obedience to the law Jesus words. And on the left you have mercy. And if you turn to the right or left you have walked off that narrow way. You need to squeeze into the kingdom of God. It's a scale ⚖ and we must balance it. But Acts and Colossians 2:16-17 and Jesus words are all law as well. So you must refute these verses to tell me that people must keep Sabbath and foods. I don't eat pork or other things that are unclean. But that's my choice and not because I am commandmented not to eat it. Even if you try to hold to the Sabbath that was a covnent contract between God and Israel. Even Jubilees says that the Sabbath was not for everyone but only for Israel. But the old covnent is complete and we all are under Jesus the new covnent. And most the ten commandments were brought over because Jesus said these things in His teachings. But the Pharisees were trying to kill Him because He did not obey their Sabbath. He said it, the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. The son of man is Lord of the Sabbath. His rest is the only Sabbath that matters. And anyone who is trying to keep it isn't doing it right anyway 😂 you can't make this stuff up. What did God say. Stay in your houses and rest. But in Jesus day it becomes a whole different thing.
    People do what you want if you feel led keep it 💯 but don't sin in judging others by your own convictions. If it wasn't in the Bible I too would agree to you. But the Bible teaches otherwise. And only way I've seen people deal with these scripture is 1 ignore it, 2 try to explain it away with their opinions, 3 say the Bible was doctored and changed, and if you believe number 3 then how can we trust anything in it 🤔 and no reason to be a Christian at all. Because we doubt God's word.
    Be honest with yourself and read it yourself and don't read anything else into the scripture. I know it's hard we have been brainwashed by teacher's to automatically carry people's opinions with the text. For example my old teacher use to explain this verse.
    You heard an eye for an eye. But I say to you. THAT YOU RESIST NOT EVIL. If a man slaps you turn the other cheek.
    He would say if you try to teach someone that is not ready for the word, and they slap you it's your fault and you should take it. But that's the only reason you should put up with it. If someone hits you out the blue pop him.
    Sounds nice don't it. But that is a lie!! It's history that the first century church would not fight to even protect themselves. They quit the army, and understood that you can never do violence for any reason. Is that a hard thing to do, yes but that is the law. Love your enemies and do good to those who hurt you and persecute you. You cannot hurt someone if you love them. That's why the whole of the law is fulfilled in love. Tell me one sin you can do against someone if you love them. You can not. You can't commit fornication even if you love them. Because you are involving them in a sin that is guilty of death. The whole of the law is fulfilled in love. Take care

  • @kjvholyscriptures6925
    @kjvholyscriptures6925 5 років тому

    What a fool! Marcion was rejected by the early church believers and leaders.