Buy It - MSI MAG 321UPX (4K 240Hz QD OLED) Monitor Review
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Buy It - MSI MAG 321UPX (4K 240Hz QD OLED) Monitor Review
MSI has released the most affordable 4K 240Hz OLED monitors this generation. Specifically the MSI MAG 321UPX is the cheapest 4K OLED coming in at $899, but without the ability to update the firmware MSI needs to get it right, or it won't be worth buying. Today we put that to the test by reviewing the color, accuracy, brightness, latency, motion performance, uniformity, and clarity of MSI's new 4K OLED.
Buy the MSI MAG 321UPX: amzn.to/3TQdGzR
(Alternative) - Alienware AW3225QF: howl.me/clPs75aw3DU
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Intro - 0:00
Specs - 0:34
Design - 1:07
Price - 1:29
Color - 2:09
Brightness - 3:34
Latency - 5:12
Motion - 5:19
Text Clarity - 5:43
Finish - 6:15
Angles & Uniformity - 7:07
Menu - 7:14
Issues - NONE
Game Support - GREAT
Who is This For - 7:24
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Without firmware updates is this monitor good? Let mw know your thoughts!
Buy the MSI MAG 321UPX: amzn.to/3TQdGzR
(Alternative) - Alienware AW3225QF: howl.me/clPs75aw3DU
not in France (1300€ this one, 1400€ the 321URX MSRP ... 1500€+ in the current market...) ... by the way : 1 120,30€ for the Alienware AW3225QF)
EDIT : 4:20 about that...
I watched recently videos about the upcoming LG G4 et Samsung QN90D (Digital Trends) and peak brightness, even at a 25% is amazing (QN90D)
Yea, totally agree and with the Alienware being by far cheaper, espcially compared to the ASUS i dont see a good reason to spend so much more,i got my Alienware for around 950€, which in my opinion makes it a great deal.@@grospoulpe951
@@grospoulpe951 when u talk about the Samsung QN90D do you mean the TV? isn't that a TV?
@@thecoon3240 yes, it's a TV (Daniel has an old model, the LG C1, could be replaced by that one, not cheap though, but hasmuch better brightness than current new QDOLED 4k, very useful for HDR content)
@@grospoulpe951 Okay! thx for replying, i'm interested in that, but would you say the TV could be a better choice than the newest 3rd gen oled monitors?
W review! Think I’ll keep holding off for now but excited for what’s to come
Id rather pay 50$ more for firmware updates and extended warranty.
But in france msi mpg321urx is 1500€, same price as asus pg32ucdm
me to
En france la meilleure option c'est peut être le alienware AW3225QF à 1120€
Its not $50 more.
In US, the MSI is $950 and the ASUS is 1299$
Thats $350!
@@brentcox2961 I think you misunderstood, there's a 50$ difference between the MSI mag and the mpg. I'd rather pay 50$ more for the updates and the warranty. But for me in France the MSI isn't a great deal since it's the same price as the Asus pg32ucdm. Trust me I'd love to have the MSI for 950€
@@Gekihen_yeah, I am monitoring the availability of the mpg but it's bin sold out for the past few weeks, unlike the $900 MAG is available currently.
Can you also test the 27" 360Hz version of the MAG, with no firmware upgrade option?
Also, how does HDR switching work in Windows? Like, is it possible for the monitor to switch between sRBG and Peak 1000 modes on its own as one goes from an HDR game or video to Desktop etc and vice versa?
Excellent review, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Please do a video on your best monitor picks for hybrid photo and video editing, colour accuracy etc.
If I'm already spending $900.00 on a monitor, I'd rather just spend $1,200.00 to get one with all the bells and whistles without these drawbacks.
If you're upgrading from a VA, IPS, etc. like an OLD LG 144hz monitor I'm using, this purchase is a no brainer, bang for your buck.
Until Samsung manages to get rid of the purple haze when using these QD-OLED's in anything but a dark basement, I'll buy a WOLED panel.
Bang for buck will be not buying it @@atomicskullkid4722
$300-400 more for Dolby Vision or Display Port 2.1 isn't a reasonable price increase. The former doesn't even work with Windows yet, and the latter is mostly a very minor inconvenience with DSC and Nvidia GPUs.
Purple looks dope u a cornball@@Jeroenneman
Hey do you know if you’re able to have custom setting presets for each input? Or do they force the same settings on each?
Example (brightness 80, contrast 70 on HDMI 1 and brightness 90, contrast 85 on HDMI 2)
differences between URX and UPX. was waiting for the URX but now i hear about this one. are you aware of the differences. is it just firmware?
is g-sync stable with this monitor? because i have disconnect-reconnect issue while g-sync is enabled with my current g-sync "compatible" monitor (Samsung S28AG70, it is a known issue but no fix other than disabling g-sync which is dumb)
Can't swith of DSC on this model with current firmware, so which refresh rate and resolution will it run with a gtx 10 series and below GPU w/o DSC support?
in terms of latency, is that specifically input lag? and what does 25 mean?
Tomorrow: "MSI MAG 321UPX - Don't Buy It!!!"
I want the MPG variant but it’s been out of stock. I want them to take my money 😢
@@arnoldc7585 me too! I still waiting for MPG 32" qg-oled :(((
Mannnn idk if ill be able to move to this after having the LG C3 for the past year, the finish and brightness on the C3 is great. This is a great monitor tho the price is great for what its offering.
I‘m in the same boat. Using the C3 for a couple month know and i don‘t know if one of the 4K 32inch oled monitors will be an real (!) upgrade. Mabey i need to try one my self.
I don't either so I'm starting off planning on dual and using both.
Hello, I have got a question so I'm looking at buying a new monitor. I currently have a 48 in Monitor from gigabyte and it is starting to show signs of image burn so looking at getting a new Montor I also run a second monitor at 32 in just a BenQ. So, I'm looking at doing an upgrade and I'm looking at either the 57" Odyssey Neo G9 or The Gigabyte S55U Or even the Alienware 55 in UHD AW5520FF. I've been looking at the reviews and I really kind of like Alienware but it doesn't support HDR. I'm running an I-9 14900k and an RTX 3090 Founders Edition. thoughts and recommendations please
If you’re buying a 55” display, just buy a Samsung S90C.
$899? Looks like only options are $1,500+
💀💀💀 Hopefully MSRP models come back in stock soon.
@@thedisplayguyIt’s $950 MSRP though not $899
No. That’s the MPG 321URX. The MAG is $899.
Newegg had the MAG for the past week at $899 FYI.
There's a URX and a UPX ...is the URX older..im a little confused
Does it rotate to portrait?
Would it be a noticeable upgrade to go from the Asus PG27AQDM to this MSI?
Or would you wait another generation ?
It’s bigger but then there is a 27” version also. I’d wait if I were you. Give them time to release an oled with a better life span
Also it’s not as bright as your current model. Asus Rog models will usually always be the best even though they use LG panels
@@MacVerick Asus has shit factory calibration, at least for SDR, so that should be kept Im mind.
You should keep the INNOCN 15A1F display as a reference for 100% Window brightness to show how AMOLED is far beyond QD OLED or WOLED, nonetheless 271 nits is very fine by me
I purchased 321UPX, but returned it. Reason? The text was too blurry for productivity work. I'm very used to a 27" 4K IPS panel where the text is super sharp and this 32" OLED simply was not good enough on that front. Oh, an also this was waaaay dimmer than a standard IPS. I'm used to decent brightness and 321UPX simply was not bright enough.
What monitor did you get after return
@@TacoBurger213 For now I stuck with my LG 27" 4K IPS. I'm waiting for the LG 32" 4K OLED to try that one out - in theory text should be sharper and the panel should be brighter relative to the 32" 4K QD-OLED.
@@RB-us6tfColor brightness will be nothing like QD. Also it’s has a Vaseline coating
LG matte coatings on OLED are unusable, can't even read text on a white background without eyestrain to see through the grain.
Disgusting trash.
The lack of firmware update sucks but the fact that the asus variant is priced at 1800 euros in the EU outside of the 1500 euro EU launch price makes this deal attractive. It's literally cheaper to buy 2 of these monitors than a single asus monitor with the same panel.
The lines in your shirt matched the lines in the background.
Little frustrating to watch the entire video and you not answer the one question I had coming here.. What is the difference between this monitor and the MPG-321URX? I'm surprised because you mentioned the 321URX on your channel before.
The cheaper version doesn’t have the ability to have its firmware updated.
is this monitor good for color grading work?
If you are color grading you need to get your monitor professionally calibrated.
is it 480hz i have in games even call of duty 400 fps.
Wait, is this different from the MSI MPG 321URX one? How different are they?
This one don't get firmware update but the one you talking about do
@@XeqtrM1what abt 27 inch mpg do they get firm updates?
@@NoChatterGaming yep it does get firmware update so you r safe
i just snagged a great deal on a used 321upx for only $675, so i think it will definitely be worth the trade-off for no firmware updates, but maybe it will get it eventually anyway?? i say that because my current monitor is the alienware aw3423dw which wasn't supposed to have any new firmware support, but in fact they did eventually release a firmware update available to download, so maybe msi will do the same
really on the edge rn, too worried about burn in for that price tag
I mean, I currently have dual 32 inch 60 Hz refresh HD monitor for my set up. Yes it is a 1080P monitor and it's a big 32 inch display so you could see the pixels. Definitely thinking about upgrading to a better monitor and this one was perfect because l did not want to compromise on the size of the display but at the same time I want a good quality display with high refresh rate. And this monitor fits everything 32 inches, 4K, 240 so high refresh rate.
But the cherry on top is the fact that it's an OLED which is a big deal because I can't get over the fact that my main monitors for my main gaming PC set up are not sharp. And for other people, maybe they don't really care or can't even tell the difference but I could tell the difference due to the fact that I do daily drive a 15 ProMax, 23 M3 Max MacBook Pro 16in, 24 iPad Pro 13in, and an Ultra Watch. All these have OLED displays and definitely there's a big difference between OLED and a regular non OLED display. But the price might be a little steep, but I'll probably just buy one out of the two monitors and it will be my main monitor out of the 2. 😊
You can’t say there’s less text fringing at 4K without telling us the scaling factor you’re using to make that judgement. I want to use a 4K 32 inch screen at 100% scaling (yes I know it’s small, I will move it closer to my face), all the oleds have text that looks like trash at that scale. So what looks good? 125? 150?
If it works not having firmware updates doesn't make it "suck". Ive never upgraded monitor firmware. If id doesn't work and has big issues for you return it and wait on MAG stock.
I just ordered mine from Best Buy. Cant wait. For the price its really good.
Unfortunately not over here in Europe
one day they will be available to buy
As someone who has been chasing the mpg 321urx for 2 months. I’d say the only viable reason someone would take the firmware update L, is desperation over lack of stock.
At this point i’m choosing to wait. And if rog stocks first, i’ll probably go for their model for the extra money.
That tacky dragon on the back teamed with a 1998 desk stand is a deal breaker for me! Also, this monitor costs 1,500 EUR in EU. Around $1,700
No firmware updates is kinda a big deal.
I was one of the people saying stay away 🤣 I’m still holding off for now but it doesn’t look too bad
It’s good over DisplayPort in my testing. Didn’t test consoles.
I'm staying away from it since this model don't get firmware update compare to the more expensive brother
Other reviews have measured almost 1000 nits on a 1% window but you didn’t get similar results?
That’s in HDR.
Hy, i'm looking for an oled to edit photos... Some toughts?
For productivity the 32" Odyssey Neo G7 4K UHD 165Hz 1ms(GTG) Quantum HDR2000 Curved Gaming Monitor is better according to Tim at hardware Unboxed.
Tank 🎉
Asus just announced there 8k pro art monitor so there is that one as well.
That is 2 much 4me
I’ve had this monitor and the AW3225QF and I couldn’t tell the difference in picture or brightness, motion so I ended up keeping this MAG for $300 less.
That makes sense in the US but not so much in Europe where the Alienware is around 300€ cheaper compared to the MSI, and 600€ cheaper than the ASUS.
@@raphzyyyy where are you pulling those numbers from? the AW costs 1140EUR in Italy vs. 1499EUR for the Asus. it's nearly identical for Germany and I assume the rest of EU, so the difference is around 360EUR, not 600EUR.
Sorry my bad, In Germany the Alienware is 1119€, and the Asus is 1699€ on their own website, with a currently discounted price of 1499€, and most other websites listing it as 1699€, though there are some with a slightly lower price.
I took that price to compare as that was the normal price without discounts, being fair to the Alienware where I also took a non-discounted price. In the end 500€ not 600€ difference, my bad. :)
Another important thing to keep in mind tho is that at the Moment the Alienware is the only one available for me, so IDK if the price might change for the other models.
In the end, i still think that it might be justified spending an extra 100 to MAX 200€ for a different variant of the panel (if the extra features are worth it to you), but even 360€ or worse 500€, for pretty much the same panel just with slightly different features and design is not justified or worth it in any way. If in a few months prices get better than going for the ASUS or MSI might be an option, but for now I'd say the Alienware is still the best option. Another thing is that if you're waiting 6mo to 1y for prices to drop, than by then there will probably already be new improved OLEDs.
Btw, i ordered my Alienware for 950€ which i believe to be completely worth it, especially considering the ASUS and MSI are essentially the same panel but for quite a bit more money.
LMK what you think:)))@@patrikmedia
is there a DP cable come with the monitor ??
Very likely
Heard it only comes with hdmi not display
It's also not the cheapest depending on the region (which in Australia isn't not the alienware is and it's about 10% cheaper than the msi here)
I find it amusing that this monitor and the Spectrum Dough are the only two monitors people are vehemently advising against purchasing. Ironically, these may be the only two OLED monitors truly worth considering.
I got the dell. Because fuck trying to buy the rest being sold out every second and I love curve monitors.
WAIT A MINUTE, YOU ARE THE DISPLAY GUY!
Is that sponsored review? Cuz it's calibrated a little too good and feels like they just sent you specifically better version
The monitor looks Dim Asf. Needs more full screen brightness.
Unfortunately, I think that the main problem is that in Europe the Alienware is by far cheaper than the MSI and Asus which are lot more expensive, unlike the MSI being the cheapest in the US and the Asus being only gradually more expensive. Another issue is that the Alienware is the only one availbe in Europe at the Moment.
The prices will drop on all of them once there's enough stock. Just wait it out.
I got my Alienware QD-OLED for around 950€, whereas the Asus would be around 1500-1700€, in my opinion, spending almost double for pretty much the same panel isn't really worth it, lmk what you think@@danijelb.3384
Dont get the craze about no firmware updates. If it works, keep it. If it dont, return it...
Or just buy the urx that cost 50$ more dollars, that come with rgb too
Difficult concept for below average IQ individuals to digest, but technology changes over time and some tweaks may be required from time to time so having the ability to update the firmware can extend the lifetime and performance of the item.
@DscMc that's the one I would get. But firmware updates aren't always a good thing, all im saying. My Samsung S95b felt better at launch than it ever did after all its firmware updates 🤷🏽♂️
@@DscMc And 90w usb hub
@@SKLLZTHATKILLZ below average IQ.
In Europe this monitor is priced almost the same as dell 😅
It’s morbin time! You when you wake up every morning. 🦇 👂
What is a modded s90c?
Samsung TV 144hz
Where my rupro cable ad 😆
senseless recomendation as prices in europe are equal or way above 1200€
These are all of the issues I experienced with this POS monitor . The MSI Mag 321upx Qd-Oled overview and major issues⬇️
Packaging- First off everything was nicely wrapped in a thin layer of foam protection. No damage at all but for everyone hoping there would be a plastic peel on screen there is NONE. Thank god there’s no damage or scratches.
Set up- This is where the issues start and there’s a long list of them.
In the box they include a hdmi 2.1 high speed cable but no DP 1.4 cable so small bummer b/c I’m running this on a PC not a console . Not a big deal though because I have a couple on hand. I first tried the included hdmi 2.1 cable and connected this to my 4090 to start messing with the settings. First thing I noticed was it was not detected in my multiple monitor set up. In the nvidia control panel I had to disconnect my LG CX for this to become detectable . Also it was stuck @120 hertz in the dual monitor mode and the 240 hertz was not an option.
G-Sync / Adaptive Sync Major issues- As you can see in the photo this is not a g-sync compatible monitor. I guess this can be easily fixed by nvidia I’m just wondering BEING THERE ARE NO firmware updates for the 321 UPX if this is even possible in the future to get G-Sync working properly?
With Adaptive Sync turned on and g sync off I had smoother performance but latency was noticed greatly and the flickering was the worse I’ve ever seen on a monitor . While monitoring the panels frame counter and my pc’s hertz it was obvious the issues were stimming from the a-sync. It would steadily hold at 60 hertz and shoot up to 240 hertz back and forth a couple times in one to two seconds causing this flickering.
The biggest deal breaker and why I might take a hammer to this and say fed ex messed up , “I’m joking “ but seriously there is an issue when changing HDR mode in game . While I have a game loaded if I change the HDR setting in the monitors OSD to find the best image on a game to game basis I changed the true black 400 mode to Peak 1000 mode , this causes my whole PC TO CRASH.
It gives me a windows 11 error code and completely turns off my computer, all while the monitor is flashing random colors. I’ve had to do a complete factory settings reset in the monitor OSD 3 times to fix this issue.
What’s worked ?
The setting I currently have it in is Gamer Mode USER. HDR ON. A/Sync off . HDMI 2.1.. Peak 1000.
This is the only usable option I’ve found that looks decent, brightness isn’t terrible in this mode, no flickering, obviously no g sync support or vrr. Overall massive disappointment and unless I can find some work arounds to get g sync working and adaptive sync working with no flickering I’ll be returning this very soon.
Sorry if I ruined expectations for anyone wanting this monitor. I wanted so much for this monitor to be great for it’s great price and to meet my expectations by at least matching the Alienware 3225QF that I returned a couple weeks ago.
The issues I had with the Alienware were nothing compared to this and for brightness the AW was a lot brighter in full screen but also highlight brightness. I know $900 sounds like a good deal when thinking about the Qd Oled panel you’re getting but I wouldn’t pay $500 for this monitor and I’m not being sarcastic when I say that. The biggest bummer of all none of these issues can be fixed with a firmware update.
Good job MSI you’ve managed to mess up one of the best panels made in the last 10 years .
Thanks for sharing 🙏
@@thedisplayguynp man, when can we expect a review for the Dough spectrum black 32 inch ? I just ordered that one
RIP ever receiving that monitor from Dough@Bf3junky
PC crashing isn't a monitor issue.
Imo the thought process here kinda misses the mark.. People buying an OLED monitor don't care about 100,200,300 $$ savings.. I don't think anyone can support that statement with basic logic.. Which means this is probably the worst monitor option out there..I mean you say it yourself in the video, you WOULDN't recommend this monitor except now you do because its $900 and not 1,100 or 1,200?
Anyone trying to run this 4k panel at anywhere close to 240 refresh rate needs to have a 4090 and top CPU.. So again, we already have 5k+ pc builds..1-300 dollars is irrelevant..
hey but by all means, "if you see this thing, pull the trigger and buy it" "affiliate link in description"... My dude, you can't even hook up a PS5 to this thing to get 120hz.
zimbabwe dollars?
It's a big issue with that monitor that's why it's cheap it doesn't get firmware update
1550$ in my country 😅
OP keeps reviewing these 4K 240Hz monitors but buys for his own use an LG OLED TV. Actions speak louder than words.
Clickbait, in EU it cost 600 USD more
Displayguy and most of his audience live in the US so how is it clickbait?
Not the cheapest in my country and there's no fw update for this. So buyers beware
For text clarity I have the 27 in 2k and if you don’t use magnifying glass you won’t notice anything bad from texts, and if you have small text it’s even better
It’s VERY noticeable at 1440p to me.
@@thedisplayguy I work with that display in word, excel, Visio and other office and mail apps side by side with a 27in gigabyte monitor and they look good together and don’t have any text or icons differences at 30in distance
@@DscMc are you using an IPS panel or OLED? Because I own a 27" OLED 1440p and the clarity is mediocre at best. Not even close to my 27" IPS 4K panel. OLED will currently looks less clear compared to IPS at the same resolution because of the odd pixel layout.
No firmware update no buy.
why need firmware update if everything works as supposed to out of the box?
@@patrikmedia😂
You don't get firmware updates for this monitor lmao, spend the extra 50 on the mpg if you can
You clearly didn't even watch the video. The point he made is that MSI delivered on the launch firmware. Essentialy any update is unneeded
Unless your in the uk its £1300 lol
"hidden gem". Haha. One of the two hottest monitors on the market... "hidden gem" haha x2
Meanwhile TCL still preparing its inkjet OLED version ⏳
950$ means 1500-1600€ in european shithole :(
Buy what? This thing is fucking vaporware. It goes in stock for 3.5 seconds once a week.
1400 euro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Alienware it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First lol
It sucks
junk
Sucks that it doesn’t have HDMI 2.1 for PS5
Yeah better off getting Alienware or wait for others if you have a console
? ''For console gamers, MAG 321UPX QD-OLED provide HDMI 2.1 with a full 48 Gbps bandwidth. It supports 120Hz mode on the latest consoles and supports HDR simultaneously, providing you with the best gaming experiences.''
BAHHHH. I'm holding off for the new WOLED but am getting impatient ='(
Edit - Actually holding off until the prices of the new WOLED drop drastically.... So, I'm around a year or two away from getting one. More sadface ='(