Beloved Jesus, I have faith IN you and I pray for theis message to still reach to the islands where ppl are in bondage to work along their religiosity to please God. But use your word to spread in our circles to show ppl that Jesus is ALL and IN HIM we have what we need!
Sincere question… If Jesus repented for us and IS our faith (I agree He supplies the increase), then why in (His) Revelation does he speak to the BELIEVERS in six of the seven churches and say things like "… I have this against you, that you" or too some "I have a few things against you." It seems to be some requirements or conditions to experiencing His repentance and His faith. Why does he tell His believers (more than once) to "REPENT" in that book? Why does He tell us "because you are lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will VOMIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH." I'm not trying to be difficult. I believe in Him but need some clarity with this and struggle with the "experience" of Grace despite trying to just rest in His presence and talk to Him. Surely we HAVE TO step into His presence, Walk IN the Spirit… meaning we have to DO something. No?
+BrownDirt Apeboy I get it...but I believe the entire message of grace is it's not really about us at all. Jesus died as us, for us and gives us His spirit to live in us to express Himself thru us. "We" abide in Him. Give up "trying" to do for God out of the flesh but Let Christ live his life thru us. Come to Me all who are heavy burdened and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you for I am gentle in heart and it is easy. The Christian life isn't supposed to be a struggle, just let Him do it. Goes against religion so hard for us to understand. But his ways are not our ways. You can't walk or stand until you sit. Sit meaning rest in His finished work. Labor to enter into His rest. Once you "do" that then you can walk and stand...Hope that makes sense. There are scriptures people can pull out to support all kinds of doctrines but remember Jesus didn't come to bring us a religion but Himself. He is the way, He is the door, He is life, He is truth, He is our righteousness, He is our salvation. Our part? What else is there...Believe the good news and live out of it.
+BrownDirt Apeboy This hymn by Proctor helps me when I catch myself trying to justify myself with works. Lay your deadly doings down... down at Jesus' feet.... cling to Him and Him alone... Gloriously complete.
+timtglf Thanks for words of wisdom. A lot has changed in the last 9 months and I'm getting His grace more and more. Having said that, I still feel to some degree that there is a choice between the counsel of the Holy Spirit or "other" spirits. There is a reason Jesus said He HAD to leave so that He could send the Helper (Holy Spirit). Thanks though bro for you help. Sincerely
+visual74 I agree with you bro and am learning to lay down my doings. Just concerned at times that we may be quenching/blaspheming the Holy Spirit by denying His counsel and using grace to hide behind. I'm talking less about "salvation" and more about living the Spirit filled/guided life to the fullest. I have come to the understanding of not listening to condemnation and instead taking JOY at the counsel and sometimes conviction of the Holy Spirit. I had some spoiling growing up and I'm thankful I now have a GOOD Father who is willing to discipline me for my good. Bless you and sincere thanks
+BrownDirt Apeboy Awesome to hear. I've struggled with so much fear (judgement, condemnation, guilt, shame) in my life through religion brought on by my past churches and self imposed legalistic mindset that I contemplated suicide about 15 years ago... When I left the law based church that I grew up with that is when He revealed Himself to me. First thing He said in the Spirit was "Why are you trying to change" and "No one can help you" For some reason those two things changed my life drastically... I was fearing and depending on people"s (world's) judgement of me. When He showed me He is my life I started to know myself (true self) without condemnation and that I was beautiful and unique just as He created me to be. I was perfect in His eyes just as He is perfect... Through the years I was brought down to my natural old self but I believe it was to show me grace in a deeper way. I didn't know it at the time but I had so much hidden pride and self righteousness that through suffering He showed me He doesn't share His glory with no man or anything... I know you are in good hands... When things get tough and it will... having to struggle with different spirits and it is easy to think I have to do certain things not stray but be of good cheer cause what He starts He finishes... It's not up to us but a trust in His finished work that will free us from our mental bondage... I have finished a book recently by Andre Rabe called "Desire found me" awesome book about the history of christian faith... definitely recommend it... It explains that fleshly desires are learned and that our true selves are found in innocence... And according to the gospel we are innocent based on faith and not of our works... Highly recommend it. I would also recommend Bertie Brits teachings. He can be found in youtube as well... I thank God for all these grace teachers... they are a gift from God and so are we :)
i was borned so i could be loved but its not love which i can feel, but His love is spiritual, and i am not enough spiritual to experiance that love ?? , but i was borned to be loved yes, but unfortunatly, i am very sorry do dissapoint you, you gonna have to DIE to feel His LOVE , but you were borned to feel loved.. now, please, i know about other religions, but this, christianity, that is so painful, so horrible, so unimaginable horror of dissapointments and pain and sorrow, while God always has perfect reason not to show you love that you can actually feel it.. wauu.. no religion on this planet is like that, so evil.. i am not saying Jesus is not God, but let me believe in Him after i am dead, its horrible to believe on Him while we are alive.. its painful , its horrible.. and you cant even describe how horrible that is.. ok Jesus is God, i am sure he has 100 reasons or more to be so horrible father to His children here, but why not allow to His children to accept Him after they die ? .. when they can really see His love, not here, nothing in my life was more horrible than to believe in Jesus.. it was the worst thing in my life ever.. .All you hear is about His love, his grace, his kindness, and its all on paper or IT IS SPIRITUAL, you cant see it.. first it depens on your faith, but than its only His faith, but you cant receive it because you cant see spiritualy and you dont have enough of His faith.. WAUUUU.. WAUUU.. i swear the GOD i wish that someone burned me on the tree rather that i believed in Christ, but His explanantion of love is amazing.. i wish i was crucified on that Cross, really, and felt all that pain and sorrow , its all better than to believe on Jesus while on earth.. His love is so horrible.. but he has explanantion for that.. dont worry.. its perfect and shiny.. wauu. nobody is worst.. the worst thing is i cant change the fact that He is.. if i could i would die, eat shit, i would do eveything not to believe in that kind of horrible piece of shit Jesus Christ.. but its too late.. i cant even be a buddist anymore. what a trickster with PERFECT reason.. i have no doubt in my mind that we will receive perfect shiny explanantion why he didnt show us His love, wau, it will be perfect.. we didnt have HIS FAITH. wauu...
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It is for freedom that Christ came thanks steve🙏💯
God loves me just the way I am. Jesus loves me and has covered me in his righteousness. Amen! God blesses brother Steve McVey.
God bless you brother Steve in our Lord and savior Jesus Christ our Lord and savior!!
This is SO good! I wonder why certain translations focus on our faith rather than his faith? This is why I wish I knew Greek well!
This is something that I knew but don't hear it everyday
I'm in love with God
He is all that we need
Beloved Jesus, I have faith IN you and I pray for theis message to still reach to the islands where ppl are in bondage to work along their religiosity to please God. But use your word to spread in our circles to show ppl that Jesus is ALL and IN HIM we have what we need!
Thank you💗
I love this! Thanks for sharing this!!!
What a relief. His commandments are not burdensome!
It is finished, he said 😊
This is excellent and so well presented so we can understand the TRUTH of the Gospel!!
Im loving this
Knowing and believing the truth will set you free
ah the good news!
Amen brother 🙏
Steve, Mike and everyone at Hope how I miss my Grace Family.Praying to see you all again in 2014....Blessings.....
+Barbara Sigurdson love you and miss you BIGTIME
Amen Steve, thank you!!!!!
Lynette
RIGHT ON . GAL 2:20 EPH 3:12
Sincere question… If Jesus repented for us and IS our faith (I agree He supplies the increase), then why in (His) Revelation does he speak to the BELIEVERS in six of the seven churches and say things like "… I have this against you, that you" or too some "I have a few things against you." It seems to be some requirements or conditions to experiencing His repentance and His faith. Why does he tell His believers (more than once) to "REPENT" in that book? Why does He tell us "because you are lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will VOMIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH." I'm not trying to be difficult. I believe in Him but need some clarity with this and struggle with the "experience" of Grace despite trying to just rest in His presence and talk to Him. Surely we HAVE TO step into His presence, Walk IN the Spirit… meaning we have to DO something. No?
+BrownDirt Apeboy I get it...but I believe the entire message of grace is it's not really about us at all. Jesus died as us, for us and gives us His spirit to live in us to express Himself thru us. "We" abide in Him. Give up "trying" to do for God out of the flesh but Let Christ live his life thru us. Come to Me all who are heavy burdened and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you for I am gentle in heart and it is easy. The Christian life isn't supposed to be a struggle, just let Him do it. Goes against religion so hard for us to understand. But his ways are not our ways. You can't walk or stand until you sit. Sit meaning rest in His finished work. Labor to enter into His rest. Once you "do" that then you can walk and stand...Hope that makes sense. There are scriptures people can pull out to support all kinds of doctrines but remember Jesus didn't come to bring us a religion but Himself. He is the way, He is the door, He is life, He is truth, He is our righteousness, He is our salvation. Our part? What else is there...Believe the good news and live out of it.
+BrownDirt Apeboy This hymn by Proctor helps me when I catch myself trying to justify myself with works. Lay your deadly doings down... down at Jesus' feet.... cling to Him and Him alone... Gloriously complete.
+timtglf Thanks for words of wisdom. A lot has changed in the last 9 months and I'm getting His grace more and more. Having said that, I still feel to some degree that there is a choice between the counsel of the Holy Spirit or "other" spirits. There is a reason Jesus said He HAD to leave so that He could send the Helper (Holy Spirit). Thanks though bro for you help. Sincerely
+visual74 I agree with you bro and am learning to lay down my doings. Just concerned at times that we may be quenching/blaspheming the Holy Spirit by denying His counsel and using grace to hide behind. I'm talking less about "salvation" and more about living the Spirit filled/guided life to the fullest. I have come to the understanding of not listening to condemnation and instead taking JOY at the counsel and sometimes conviction of the Holy Spirit. I had some spoiling growing up and I'm thankful I now have a GOOD Father who is willing to discipline me for my good. Bless you and sincere thanks
+BrownDirt Apeboy Awesome to hear. I've struggled with so much fear (judgement, condemnation, guilt, shame) in my life through religion brought on by my past churches and self imposed legalistic mindset that I contemplated suicide about 15 years ago... When I left the law based church that I grew up with that is when He revealed Himself to me. First thing He said in the Spirit was "Why are you trying to change" and "No one can help you" For some reason those two things changed my life drastically... I was fearing and depending on people"s (world's) judgement of me. When He showed me He is my life I started to know myself (true self) without condemnation and that I was beautiful and unique just as He created me to be. I was perfect in His eyes just as He is perfect... Through the years I was brought down to my natural old self but I believe it was to show me grace in a deeper way. I didn't know it at the time but I had so much hidden pride and self righteousness that through suffering He showed me He doesn't share His glory with no man or anything... I know you are in good hands... When things get tough and it will... having to struggle with different spirits and it is easy to think I have to do certain things not stray but be of good cheer cause what He starts He finishes... It's not up to us but a trust in His finished work that will free us from our mental bondage... I have finished a book recently by Andre Rabe called "Desire found me" awesome book about the history of christian faith... definitely recommend it... It explains that fleshly desires are learned and that our true selves are found in innocence... And according to the gospel we are innocent based on faith and not of our works... Highly recommend it. I would also recommend Bertie Brits teachings. He can be found in youtube as well... I thank God for all these grace teachers... they are a gift from God and so are we :)
La traduction en Français est mauvaise , please verif traduction
so is this meant that we dont have to use our faith?
i was borned so i could be loved but its not love which i can feel, but His love is spiritual, and i am not enough spiritual to experiance that love ?? , but i was borned to be loved yes, but unfortunatly, i am very sorry do dissapoint you, you gonna have to DIE to feel His LOVE , but you were borned to feel loved.. now, please, i know about other religions, but this, christianity, that is so painful, so horrible, so unimaginable horror of dissapointments and pain and sorrow, while God always has perfect reason not to show you love that you can actually feel it.. wauu.. no religion on this planet is like that, so evil.. i am not saying Jesus is not God, but let me believe in Him after i am dead, its horrible to believe on Him while we are alive.. its painful , its horrible.. and you cant even describe how horrible that is.. ok Jesus is God, i am sure he has 100 reasons or more to be so horrible father to His children here, but why not allow to His children to accept Him after they die ? .. when they can really see His love, not here, nothing in my life was more horrible than to believe in Jesus.. it was the worst thing in my life ever.. .All you hear is about His love, his grace, his kindness, and its all on paper or IT IS SPIRITUAL, you cant see it.. first it depens on your faith, but than its only His faith, but you cant receive it because you cant see spiritualy and you dont have enough of His faith.. WAUUUU.. WAUUU.. i swear the GOD i wish that someone burned me on the tree rather that i believed in Christ, but His explanantion of love is amazing.. i wish i was crucified on that Cross, really, and felt all that pain and sorrow , its all better than to believe on Jesus while on earth.. His love is so horrible.. but he has explanantion for that.. dont worry.. its perfect and shiny.. wauu. nobody is worst.. the worst thing is i cant change the fact that He is.. if i could i would die, eat shit, i would do eveything not to believe in that kind of horrible piece of shit Jesus Christ.. but its too late.. i cant even be a buddist anymore. what a trickster with PERFECT reason.. i have no doubt in my mind that we will receive perfect shiny explanantion why he didnt show us His love, wau, it will be perfect.. we didnt have HIS FAITH. wauu...