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  • Mike Florio provides an update on Jon Gruden's case against the NFL, which the Nevada Supreme Court has just directed to arbitration. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL
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  • @BUStedLosAngeles
    @BUStedLosAngeles 13 днів тому +242

    I'm no fan of Gruden, but this case deserves to be tried in an open court.

    • @jrsands
      @jrsands 13 днів тому

      … and put the NFL & the owners under a microscope? The owners & their “private” emails would be exposed. These guys are Billionaires. Billionaires control this country & they don’t like being exposed.

    • @thomashartmann2891
      @thomashartmann2891 13 днів тому +8

      Not if he signed a contract with an arbitration clause it doesn’t.

    • @kevinwalsh4652
      @kevinwalsh4652 13 днів тому +10

      He's getting the orangeman lawfare treatment but fighting back ...if Roger G. is against anything or anyone then I'm for that thing or person...Roger ruined a guy devoted to football his whole life...and...should have gave TB12 the $20 million

    • @ADUSN
      @ADUSN 13 днів тому +3

      @@thomashartmann2891 Forced Arbritation is wrong. Tort reform is desperately needed, sure, but arbitration is not impartial to both parties.

    • @thomashartmann2891
      @thomashartmann2891 13 днів тому +3

      @@ADUSN When you willingly sign a contract with an arbitration clause, it’s not forced.

  • @kacornish1
    @kacornish1 13 днів тому +85

    I’m not a big Gruden fan, but he is getting screwed on this. He deserves a chance to fight this out in court.

  • @powerboon2k
    @powerboon2k 13 днів тому +146

    I hope Gruden does not let this go.

    • @drexlspivey3047
      @drexlspivey3047 13 днів тому +7

      Me too. I want to see all the racist texts

    • @user-xm5pj2cs6n
      @user-xm5pj2cs6n 13 днів тому +1

      He insulted the NFL union head, who is a black man, no black players would play for Gruden, so you can't win games 😆

    • @lucristianx
      @lucristianx 13 днів тому +9

      @@user-xm5pj2cs6n not a single player believes Gruden is a racist. I’m not saying he’s innocent. He said what he said, anyone would have been fired/let go.
      The issue is the targeted nature of this release. What was the response to his emails? There’s thousands of emails not being shown the light of day.

    • @user-oq7ji2rx4l
      @user-oq7ji2rx4l 13 днів тому

      @@lucristianx about 600k email will not be released.

    • @lucristianx
      @lucristianx 13 днів тому +4

      @@user-oq7ji2rx4l right and I don’t expect them to if they had fired others involved. But it was just targeted against one man.

  • @tommydavidwalker2445
    @tommydavidwalker2445 13 днів тому +137

    I stand with Gruden

    • @drexlspivey3047
      @drexlspivey3047 13 днів тому +9

      Of course you do

    • @tonydavis3119
      @tonydavis3119 13 днів тому +16

      You going to spit or swallow?

    • @biozio186
      @biozio186 13 днів тому +9

      On your knees soldier!!!

    • @b-rad3681
      @b-rad3681 13 днів тому +3

      Same here , I stand with coach gruden

    • @stevenp25100
      @stevenp25100 13 днів тому

      They were his words. 😂

  • @goldenbear8250
    @goldenbear8250 13 днів тому +169

    The NFL paid off the Nevada S.C.

    • @drunkwolf2477
      @drunkwolf2477 13 днів тому +15

      yep, money talks. does anybody really have any kind of faith in our legal system anymore? we can all see with our own eyes what is really going on. and not just with football.
      also why have the emails never been made public? all we have ever heard is every bodys assumption of what is in them. never the facts.

    • @goldenbear8250
      @goldenbear8250 13 днів тому

      @@drunkwolf2477 More of the influence of the NFL: they control the emails, and "somehow" the damaging ones from Gruden were leaked to the press for publication. ALL of the OTHER emails are deemed, BY THE NFL, as "confidential" and not appropriate for release to the public, and by sending the case to arbitration, the Nevada SC made it impossible for the public to learn who in the League office conspired to "leak" the slanderous Gruden emails.

    • @sleepinglady2778
      @sleepinglady2778 13 днів тому

      Just like the federal SC. Everyone talks about clearance Thomas scandals but we still don't know who paid all of Kavanaugh cc debt, $1.2 mil mortgage, and other debts. I would not be surprised at all if it's happening.

    • @future_teknokrat7585
      @future_teknokrat7585 13 днів тому +11

      In modern times, large corporations no longer have to pay off another powerful entity. Large institutions incorporations tend to work with each other to maintain the status quo. They will only allow a disruption to the system if they think and or believe the threat will not burn everything down. All the court members have to do is just go into a back room and talk with each other about the what-if scenario

    • @yahcrack
      @yahcrack 13 днів тому +3

      NFL doesn’t need to pay off the Nevada SC, they have enough power to make it go away without that

  • @Insert.Name.Here.
    @Insert.Name.Here. 13 днів тому +73

    This case needs to go to the US Supreme Court. Get out of Nevada

  • @michaelavila9963
    @michaelavila9963 13 днів тому +49

    Raiders started 3-0 that year, then the emails came out. Think about it . . .

    • @mefirst2576
      @mefirst2576 13 днів тому +5

      They couldn’t beat the chiefs so you can chill on that scenario

    • @stoney2271
      @stoney2271 13 днів тому +12

      @@mefirst2576he’s saying they don’t like to see the raiders succeed, you chief fans are the most annoying people on the earth. YOUR TEAMS GOOD BUT THEYRE NOT INVOLDED IN EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD

    • @user-qp5sp9sz6k
      @user-qp5sp9sz6k 13 днів тому +5

      @@mefirst2576we whooped you on Christmas. Just saying

    • @clintbronson5
      @clintbronson5 13 днів тому +1

      They were 3-1 before the emails I’m Die Hard Raiders and watched that Charger game MNF! Chiefs got whipping last Christmas and Raider team just getting BETTAH

    • @clintbronson5
      @clintbronson5 13 днів тому +1

      As a die hard Raider fan ( tattoo over my heart ) The Forty whiners have the most annoying fans!!! And Bless the Chiefies for whipping their ass!!!! I was seriously going to throw up if the Whiners celebrated in RAIDER HOUSE!!! Plus…plus Art Shell n Marcus Allen be Chiefs at one time…AFC WEST FOREVER

  • @MrSweet221
    @MrSweet221 13 днів тому +24

    This is why I watch pft because Mike tells the truth about the nfl. Subscriber for life

  • @markreese6693
    @markreese6693 13 днів тому +53

    Under no circumstances should anyone use someone’s emails period. 5th amendment applies here. No exceptions! What The NFL did was egregious and they should pay a shit ton fine. We have a right to our own thoughts and feelings no exceptions PERIOD!

    • @melindaostergren8115
      @melindaostergren8115 13 днів тому +16

      I understand your sentiment, but anyone who thinks they have an expectation of privacy with use of email is fooling themselves.

    • @markreese6693
      @markreese6693 13 днів тому

      @@melindaostergren8115 no it’s the constitution. The NFL hasn’t the legal authority to do this. It’s not unrealistic to expect people to adhere to the constitution. We’ve had a bunch of criminals in Washington for a very long time that have used the constitution for toilet paper and it’s time we find out who the patriots are and the traitors are once and for all. Vote them out and boot the rest out. If we don’t it will get worse and if it gets any worse it’ll look like the CCP is running the country. You have to stand up for your constitutional rights as well and not fake laws that congress or the president puts in place. I personally believe our government is a captured operation but we gotta keep trying to hold these crooks accountable. This goes higher than the NFL because they couldn’t have pulled this off without first permission inside the government and help from the same people. You can’t throw up your hands ya gotta say no no no. Is there a cost of course freedom isn’t free it does cost something. I’m standing up for Gruden not because I love the guy but because if I don’t will there be anyone to stand up for me and the rest of you if we say oh it’s no use you’re naive. I won’t accept that answer sorry.

    • @dannyquilter8366
      @dannyquilter8366 13 днів тому +11

      No, emails are not private documents. Especially not sent on work email accounts.

    • @markreese6693
      @markreese6693 13 днів тому

      @@dannyquilter8366 you can’t access emails legally without a court order. If you steal someone’s texts or emails without a court order you can be jailed. You can’t just Willy Nilly take someone’s emails or text. Get a court order if you can prove that someone was trying to break the law ex: if you have threatened someone’s life but you still need to convince a judge before you can get a court order sorry but we still have rights here. This is why it was anonymous because they knew they were clearly on shaky legal grounds.

    • @DrPhill96
      @DrPhill96 13 днів тому +8

      Emails SHOULD be used and I want to see the NFL’s, owners and other figure heads. Gruden and Snyder were the fall guys.

  • @Bolttoast
    @Bolttoast 13 днів тому +52

    Considering that the Nevada government approved the public funding for the Raiders stadium, this does not surprise me.

  • @OmahaSand
    @OmahaSand 13 днів тому +35

    Gruden deserves this resolved in the Courts .. in Arbitration the NFL will get the confidentiality they denied Gruden. Horrible.

    • @stevenp25100
      @stevenp25100 13 днів тому

      They're his words. Who cares

    • @OmahaSand
      @OmahaSand 13 днів тому

      UA-cam censorship

    • @OmahaSand
      @OmahaSand 13 днів тому +1

      I've said "that girl is stacked" and "that guy looks like a conehead" .. in private, to a friend. I've never said anything about race. Gruden said someone's lips were big - a true statement. In private to a friend. And never mentioned race. People can comment on bizzare physical features and have no racial agenda.. Not good enough for political operatives who want to mire them and fire them for the sake of agenda.

    • @stevenp25100
      @stevenp25100 13 днів тому

      @@OmahaSand ok. He could have made that case. What's your point

    • @OmahaSand
      @OmahaSand 13 днів тому

      That IS the point. A person inside the NFL or that the NFL hired to perform investigative work. Who was supposed to investigate confidentially .. Felt is necissary to Leak information to media outlets that was.. crass or in poor taste.. But not racist and cost someone a Multi million dollar job. While doing everthing they could to dress it up with racist lipstick. Gruden WAS NOT an NFL employee at the time of his email. This was a HIT job .. a purposeful smear .. And the person that did it won't see justice in "arbitration"

  • @BI-sd3sw
    @BI-sd3sw 13 днів тому +41

    Mike: I will not talk that long
    *25min later*
    Mike: thanks for watching PFT on UA-cam

    • @FlyingMan23
      @FlyingMan23 13 днів тому +3

      lol I thought the same thing

  • @lucristianx
    @lucristianx 13 днів тому +15

    Makes no sense to make it go to arbitration. He was not an employee of the NFL when the emails were sent. This about the targeted nature of this investigation.
    In all honesty forced arbitration should be illegal.

  • @danielb7660
    @danielb7660 13 днів тому +27

    Great show Mike! Always good to get different stories that don't just cover the "Sport" of Football but also those stories that cover the "Business" of the NFL. Show Me the Money!

  • @willcozine3795
    @willcozine3795 13 днів тому +10

    Off of the best segments from Florio, especially the “integrity of the game” part of it. Thanks Mike.

  • @sharonreel8678
    @sharonreel8678 12 днів тому +4

    These segments are the ones that keep me watching Florio. Appreciate the legal insight.

  • @pdxtomct
    @pdxtomct 13 днів тому +6

    Outrageous ruling. Gruden isn't a saint, but the behavior of the NFL in this case is egregious. Gruden deserves his day in open court. We need to know how this came down and who was responsible.

  • @jakethornton4856
    @jakethornton4856 13 днів тому +23

    This is a lot bigger issue than the Gruden thing. The person who had the emails "Blackmailed" the Raiders into firing Gruden and that person was obviously someone high up in the league office because only they had access to these files. The real issue is that the Gruden blackmail was public and whoever released those emails cud also be using them to blackmail people in private. It is possible that the NFL cud use that info or any other that they use their wide net to obtain to force people in the NFLPA to do what they want or force a certain owner to vote the way they want. No one even considers if these emails were used to "convince" Daniel Snyder to sell the Commanders. Companies constantly use dirty tactics to gain any advantage they can and it really looks like the Nevada supreme court ruled with the money not the law but even our Federal Supreme Court is a joke now. To be honest I have thought Gruden was a clown since that MNF football game where he hated on COlt Mccoy the whole night just to deflect from the fact his brother is a clown who got the starter alex smith hurt because the normal pass pro back smashed his side chick and got benched. Whats funny is I used to watch college cuz I thought they were better people than the NFL then I realized they are both horrible so I might as well watch the better product but ever since the Ben Rothlesburger thing I have known that the NFL is an evil company just like a lot of the rest. Tbh I think the whole gambling take is crazy cuz I doubt if it was Snyder or Goodell they wudnt want to bring any attention that they were responsible by making any bets, the only way that gambling cud be involved is if the person who had the info wasnt part of the league and if that was the case the NFL wud be a lot more interested in finding out who "really did it"

    • @hotsauce4549
      @hotsauce4549 10 днів тому

      Shuda, wuda, cuda

    • @JagAss-ls7ie
      @JagAss-ls7ie 8 днів тому

      Like what happened in the NBA to Donald Sterling.

  • @aSTROnomical_8
    @aSTROnomical_8 13 днів тому +5

    This is an absolute masterclass of breaking down the intricacies of this situation.

  • @Trueraider22
    @Trueraider22 13 днів тому +12

    This case is not over. Grudens team will appeal to not go thru arbitration cuz Goodell is the case & jury here literally, the nfl will anticipate this will be heard by higher courts. Far from over!

  • @tedmich
    @tedmich 13 днів тому +6

    Great breakdown Mike! Im always amazed the NFL allows you to have a job!

  • @mikoyanfulcrum1
    @mikoyanfulcrum1 13 днів тому +15

    So,...we can count on justice not being served.

    • @Despiser25
      @Despiser25 11 днів тому

      We are getting the United Soviet States of Amerika good and hard and its only just begun.

  • @Gray_Bush
    @Gray_Bush 12 днів тому +3

    Billionaire is under investigation, millionaire pays the price. Sounds like "trickle down" economics to me 😂

  • @APrisonOfMyOwnDesign
    @APrisonOfMyOwnDesign 13 днів тому +7

    I hope Gruden wins, Goodell is a crook

  • @vestspet4242
    @vestspet4242 13 днів тому +5

    Thank you for plainly explaining what happened without bias or coloring.

  • @jasonvernoff6892
    @jasonvernoff6892 13 днів тому +4

    Thank you for this mike. This is why you’re the best

  • @user-fv2fv6rf6q
    @user-fv2fv6rf6q 13 днів тому +4

    Thanks Mike much appreciated

  • @lvongmany
    @lvongmany 13 днів тому +6

    Great breakdown. Lot of nuances about the case that has never been discussed

  • @cas146
    @cas146 13 днів тому +4

    For an organization that keeps asking for public funds to build their stadiums they should be scrutinized more for how they wield the power that they have.

  • @stacyturbeville6863
    @stacyturbeville6863 13 днів тому +4

    Gruden should get around 200 million

  • @MrIcognegro
    @MrIcognegro 13 днів тому +6

    Thank you for doing this video…. Absolutely correct. There is no integrity in the game at all.

  • @DrShankenstein
    @DrShankenstein 13 днів тому +5

    Such an informative video. Thank you very much. Mike!

  • @markkoep8031
    @markkoep8031 13 днів тому +14

    This is why I watch florio

  • @asteriskesque
    @asteriskesque 13 днів тому +2

    Dammit, Florio! I watched all the way to the end. I want a cookie! What do you mean, "That's just something people say?" Where's your integrity, man?
    Obviously, I kid. Mike Florio has more integrity than 99% of anybody in sports broadcasting, and I appreciate it. Bravo, to Florio. Well said. I want this resolved in open court. The Gruden thing, not the lack of a cookie, which I still think Florio owes me. SEND ME A COOKIE MIKE!!! :)

  • @markfetherman6593
    @markfetherman6593 2 дні тому +1

    Raider Nation since 1967:
    Thank you for the excellent and thorough explainer.
    I am extremely concerned about the apparent corruption within the hierarchy of the NFL.

  • @marcusmurphy5505
    @marcusmurphy5505 13 днів тому +3

    Mike thanks for breaking it down and predicting probable future outcomes you made it interesting

  • @ronaldjohnson4766
    @ronaldjohnson4766 13 днів тому +3

    Gruden deserves his day in court. Especially because of how he was specifically targeted and his job and season was deliberately sabotaged. The NFL is shady as hell and based on how this was executed, they should get what they deserve also.

  • @donaldcarter8495
    @donaldcarter8495 13 днів тому +9

    The 4th ammendment violated, total hit job on Gruden, bottom line, never use electronic messaging, FACE TO FACE OR DON'T SAY IT TYPE IT....

  • @voltgod
    @voltgod 13 днів тому +2

    Great stuff, as always Sir!! Keep the legal analyses flowing!

  • @vinnybobby3450
    @vinnybobby3450 13 днів тому +2

    The business interest of the state will trump whats right or wrong. No one will want to do business in Nevada if the Nevada Supreme court sides with Gruden over a corporation. The jdges couldn't care less about whats right or wrong, they are there to protect Nevada's interests.

  • @user-zb9op5wz3q
    @user-zb9op5wz3q 13 днів тому +2

    i actually agree with mike Florio on this to a degree!!!

  • @Masteringvoiceover
    @Masteringvoiceover 13 днів тому +2

    Great job Mike!!!!!

  • @SalvatoreGerace-eh3zb
    @SalvatoreGerace-eh3zb 13 днів тому +4

    As soon as SkyNet becomes self aware, they will be busting people for what they are thinking.

  • @DrPhill96
    @DrPhill96 13 днів тому +1

    Sports + Business + Law + Politics!!! Great job, Florio!!

  • @matthewpohl6272
    @matthewpohl6272 13 днів тому +3

    I agree with the point that who ever was behind this, took a giant crud on the integrity of the game.

    • @clintbronson5
      @clintbronson5 13 днів тому +2

      Roger Goodell…been known he never liked Gruden

    • @alfgwahigain5544
      @alfgwahigain5544 13 днів тому +1

      @@clintbronson5 AND the emails criticized Goodell. There's ZERO chance Goodell wasn't behind this.

  • @rungy8214
    @rungy8214 12 днів тому +1

    AMAZING IN DEPTH analysis !!! THANK YOU !!!

  • @bigmon19
    @bigmon19 13 днів тому +3

    This reminds me of Sam Rothstein getting jobbed by the Gambling Commission in casino.😂😂😂

  • @victorsanchez23
    @victorsanchez23 13 годин тому

    Florio....
    You are the MAN with this stufff!!!!

  • @shortestwidereceiver
    @shortestwidereceiver 13 днів тому +1

    I don’t support Gruden nor do I ever want him back as coach, but he got hosed with this decision, and the wildest part of it is 1 of the 3 judges didn’t feel like it should have gone to arbitration

  • @kyndread71
    @kyndread71 13 днів тому +2

    I want this to go to open court. That being said, I believe that Dan Snyder leaked the emails.
    Jay Gruden was a former DC coach who testified against Snyder-- so Snyder decided to be petty and shifted the spotlight.

  • @LeonD445
    @LeonD445 8 днів тому

    Bring this to court. I want to see all the emails with Bruce Allen.

  • @sak1339
    @sak1339 13 днів тому +1

    Nice analysis. I know the legal details, being a lawyer as well, but the gambling aspect I did not see! So, thanks Mike!

  • @raymondwalker2048
    @raymondwalker2048 12 днів тому

    Thanks for breaking it down for us as only you can. Keep being you Mike. Your awesome.

  • @jasonbates3513
    @jasonbates3513 День тому

    I appreciate your time on breaking down the Gruden/NFL legal spat

  • @steveo3831
    @steveo3831 13 днів тому

    How can private emails be deemed inappropriate? It’s between 2 individuals communicating

  • @adrianlovett3483
    @adrianlovett3483 13 днів тому

    As a lawyer i cannot see any basis for this ruling …it’s very troubling…there has to be due process or the rule of law looses its centrality in society.
    Mike great analysis, what about a class action by fans as people of interest. That will force a hearing and remind the NFL what this is all about ….the fans without them the NFL is nothing. It matters that the game is fair and no team is unduly hampered in a season.

  • @MiddleAgedGuy73
    @MiddleAgedGuy73 7 днів тому

    I don't always agree with Mike's takes but when he hits, his stuff is outstanding. This was incredibly well thought out and presented.

  • @808Nolasaints59
    @808Nolasaints59 13 днів тому +1

    Hats off to you Mike. You have integrity>

  • @donaldcarter8495
    @donaldcarter8495 13 днів тому +2

    Excellent points made,2 tier justice system, I'll be hoping Gruden gets his day in court, but I believe our judicial system is SO BROKEN ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

  • @truckerchris6416
    @truckerchris6416 13 днів тому +1

    Justice for John!

  • @EricRodriguez248
    @EricRodriguez248 13 днів тому

    You know, I had totally forgotten about this case. And it was very interesting to hear the breakdown. I'm not a huge fan of Gruden, but *man* would it be interesting to see everything out in the open.
    I'd be very curious to see what kind of dirt lies in all those emails.
    And thank you!! This was well worth the watch!

  • @wesleywallace2881
    @wesleywallace2881 12 днів тому +1

    This was a really good breakdown

  • @jimparker7778
    @jimparker7778 12 днів тому

    I'm no lawyer, but he has real damages! Making him accept arbitration sucks.

  • @tokyo.parker
    @tokyo.parker 13 днів тому

    Jon knew this would happen. Just wait and see what Gruden does next. This will be iconic.

  • @travisstoneking4049
    @travisstoneking4049 10 днів тому +1

    NFL just needs their own department of defense to be legit. Gruden is getting screwed again. 😑

  • @kingpen6432
    @kingpen6432 13 днів тому +3

    Tells us he's not gonna "talk long". Does a 25+ minute video breaking down JG and these snowflakes.

  • @dtoften
    @dtoften 13 днів тому +3

    Roger Goodell has been in the NFL since 1987 and commissioner since 2006. That is 37 and 18 years respectively. There is the old joke about who is the most paid person in the NFL and everyone always picks a player but no one gets the right answer which is Goodell. Money and power can cause the best of us to become corrupt. Goodell could have an open settlement with Gruden and fired whoever leaked this but he will not. NFL owners only care about the profits and appearance of integrity yet a change of guard is always needed to counter potential corruption and shadiness.
    As for Gruden's emails, people fake alarm over things people say yet they say the same sh1t but that's another issue or worse. Nonetheless, I hope Gruden gets a reasonable settlement.

    • @alfgwahigain5544
      @alfgwahigain5544 13 днів тому

      Two things: no, not everyone says awful, racist things in private. I don't know anyone who does that, and I certainly don't. I guess it's the company you keep. Second: Goodell is the punching bag for the owners. He keeps the heat off of them and that's why the owners pay him so well. Goodell is easy to dislike, and I dislike him, but whoever replaces him is going to fill the exact same role.

    • @dtoften
      @dtoften 13 днів тому +2

      @@alfgwahigain5544 I was addressing people in general. Gruden's comments also included sexual, demeaning, and nudity. It is not only the company you keep when you have coworkers, customers, relatives, social media, contractors, overhearing strangers, or meeting new people at large social gatherings.
      As for replacing Goodell, my point is that being in a powerful position for too long can cause corruption, risk of losing objectivity, and favoritism. Yes, NFL owners control this but this is a risk that develops.

  • @CeboAquatics
    @CeboAquatics 11 днів тому +1

    The NFL is a very powerful entity and they feel like they can do whatever they want. In this case they went way to far, ruining a man's career and reputation. We all know those emails have other people that would be cancelled also. This was a personal attack on Gruden and the Raiders. This needs to see OPEN COURT.

  • @armanvranka7520
    @armanvranka7520 21 годину тому

    Thanks Mike we need this type of content

  • @druiz012
    @druiz012 13 днів тому +1

    While I think Gruden deserved to be fired and Im glad the emails were leaked, I still think he should get his chance in court.

  • @garyd6174
    @garyd6174 13 днів тому

    Florio is awesome! Love his take on legal issues in sports.

  • @luciomaffei3272
    @luciomaffei3272 7 днів тому

    As a sports fan law student this was a fascinating segment. I had no idea you have a legal background. It'd be cool to see more content like this.

  • @IAMAMMAFAN
    @IAMAMMAFAN 13 днів тому +1

    This needs to go to court so we can see how dirty the NFL is. Most Corporations are doing the same thing to push out whoever they deem undesirable or not conforming to their ideology.

  • @ikiruyamamoto1050
    @ikiruyamamoto1050 5 днів тому +1

    The panel of the NV Supreme Court really twisted and tortured this process. I'd like to know if Gruden's attorneys raised the fundamental unfairness of having a totally biased "arbitrator". Arbitration is a quasi-judicial process and it violates Due Process to have a party (e.g. defendant) also be the arbitrator/judge. That's like having Elon Musk as the arbitrator in a lawsuit against Tesla. I haven't read enough of SCOTUS arbitration decisions, but I'd have to think there is some FLOOR beneath which Due Process in arbitrations cannot fall.

  • @nialldaly2145
    @nialldaly2145 8 днів тому

    I think the core point is whether the motive for removing Gruden was to protect the integrity of the game, which seems plausible. Notwithstanding, I think this is a great video.

  • @youdontknow7190
    @youdontknow7190 13 днів тому +1

    6:57 I love how Mike breaks down the logic behind these processes. I work in IT so this is not my day to day.

  • @Insert.Name.Here.
    @Insert.Name.Here. 13 днів тому +6

    The Michelin tire email was pretty funny tho ngl

  • @dave593
    @dave593 10 днів тому

    Excellent breakdown of the case where it stands and what could happen in the future. Keep up the good work.

  • @RBCharger
    @RBCharger 13 днів тому

    I've seen a lot of players talking about the Gruden emails and none of them think he was secretly racist and should have been fired.

  • @theandrewfamily
    @theandrewfamily 4 дні тому

    Thank you for the rundown.

  • @jimogden1506
    @jimogden1506 13 днів тому +5

    We need a lose/lose ruling in this matter

  • @JustinGreene0224
    @JustinGreene0224 11 днів тому

    I'm going to get an oatmeal cookie. Wonderful breakdown.

  • @ceezb5629
    @ceezb5629 13 днів тому

    One of the best sports podcasts period

  • @JohnnyJolter69
    @JohnnyJolter69 День тому

    The fact that the NFL has its own constitution; should give most a hard pause to stop and think, why? It would appear as though the NFL Constitution reigns supreme over the US Constitution when it comes to litigation with this decision from the NV Supreme Court. Florio did a brilliant job in breaking down the political partisanship aspects of the various courts.

  • @robertjsissonful
    @robertjsissonful 10 днів тому

    Great review of the case and issues. Thank you.

  • @robertjohnson801
    @robertjohnson801 12 днів тому

    Never write an email you wouldnt want to see the light of day. No privacy on the internet.

  • @bauerpower83
    @bauerpower83 13 днів тому

    I love that Mike can take a step back see stuff for what it is and not just jump on the train what the mass is saying. great job as always

  • @patmc59
    @patmc59 13 днів тому

    This is good information. As a St. Louis fan, I loathe the NFL and hope they get what's coming to them in the way of Congressional oversight.

  • @jayboogie1295
    @jayboogie1295 5 днів тому

    He should appeal to scotus or re-file in federal court if the case isn’t barred by the SOL. You want federal judges hearing this case and not state court located in a state heavily influenced by an NFL team

  • @direden
    @direden День тому

    I don't care how it's made...
    But I want nothing to do with the Justice Sausage.

  • @JohnSmith-ls3um
    @JohnSmith-ls3um 12 днів тому

    Bottom line is the court found Gruden signed a contract in which he agreed to go to arbitration before going to court. Even the dissenting judge on the NV Supreme Court agreed. No one is saying Gruden can’t still get his day in court-just after going through arbitration first. I agree with Florio NFL arbitration is a b.s. process. That said, it’s a b.s. process Gruden agreed to when he signed that contract.

  • @mykofreder1682
    @mykofreder1682 13 днів тому +1

    This company misconduct does not seem like a national issue other than the company is a national franchise.

  • @devinpayton7475
    @devinpayton7475 11 днів тому

    It should be illegal wheb a company breaks a labor law that they can force arbitration

  • @alfcmccoy
    @alfcmccoy 13 днів тому

    Thank you for breaking it down for us. Please keep us up-to-date with this news when it comes.

  • @ethanmyers4882
    @ethanmyers4882 12 днів тому

    I’ve been waiting on anything from this, thank you Mike, gruden deserves justice, got blackballed for not being a yes man

  • @warpeace8891
    @warpeace8891 10 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @pauljoseph451
    @pauljoseph451 13 днів тому

    It’s not democract vs republican. It’s corporatist vs populist.

  • @PoppinRods
    @PoppinRods 13 днів тому +20

    Wow, this is amazing. A comment section full of squeaky clean people who have never said anything inappropriate wagging their finger at Gruden. This is a first ever! Gruden was completely screwed. He has as much free speech as any of us in here when talking directly to somebody else not involving anyone around them. And every single one of you in here have done things that would be considered inappropriate and/or wrong.

    • @irishspagetti6565
      @irishspagetti6565 13 днів тому

      It's a case of left authoritarianism, they want to censor anybody and anything that's perceived as offensive

    • @Mascifin
      @Mascifin 13 днів тому +6

      Your paragraph was a really long way of saying "yes, I've worn blackface."

    • @Th4TGuy1984
      @Th4TGuy1984 13 днів тому +1

      @@Mascifinlaughing at you for being offended at blackface lol

    • @kyndread71
      @kyndread71 13 днів тому +1

      Free speech doesn't absolve someone from the consequences.
      Also, right to privacy doesn't apply here -- he used company emails.

    • @user-fv2fv6rf6q
      @user-fv2fv6rf6q 13 днів тому +1

      If cuz would have used snail mail this is avoided

  • @TC-pi7rv
    @TC-pi7rv 11 днів тому +1

    He got screwed.

  • @stevenvicijan4338
    @stevenvicijan4338 13 днів тому

    We need an attorney to explain all this...
    Screw the behind honking to writing the above. . .