Toby was raised a Christian so he's definitely put a few things in there, that and deltarune, I mean even in deltarune a character even has a cross. As much as people don't want to admit to the fact that he's referenced Christianity alot in his games, it's there.
undertale has taken a lot from the bible, i mean, asriel being a reference to azreal the angel of death, asgore being a literal encarnation of the devil (antrophomorfic goat that lives under the earth has a trident and fire powers) and a lot of other stuff that goes unmentioned, like, the importance of the number 7 (seven souls to broke the barrier, 7 is the number of god, perfection)
yeah, a lot of stories take things like that from biblical mythology-esque stories, but my focus was more on biblical themes than references. Good points though!
Absolutely FANTASTIC video man! I'm an outspoken Christian as well and Undertale is one of my favorite games of all time! I'm not sure why I haven't drawn the many connections that this game pulls from the Bible, but it also goes to show that it's basically impossible to write a story that DOESN'T point to the Bible to some degree. Also, BIG props to the way you handled the discussion of homosexuality at the end of the video. Being honest and not shying away from what God says is true is so honorable. Especially in the communities that I know you and I are both apart of, it takes some big courage to say things how they are. Keep it up man, I'm definitely a fan!
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE DO A VIDEO OF UNDERTALE IN A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE BEFORE. AS A CHRISTIAN I WANNA SAY THIS IS SUPER HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO!! AND THAT I ENJOY YOUR CONTENT!! :DD
I think my mom and the Bible said it best with this quote: "The path to heaven is never the path filled with roses, but the path filled with thorns." Undertale's pacifist route is hard to do with low HP and tough boss battles, but feels more fulfilling even if you don't know everything about the characters. Genocide seems rewarding in regards to the lore, but at what cost? In real life, it's similar to how the man downstairs work by pulling you in to a false sense of security until it's too late and your soul is condemned (basically like Pinocchio's Pleasure Island). Great video and God bless you!! Amen!!! 🙏😊
A powerful message is when you do the neutral ending and the fixed Mercy button appears in the screen and Flowey doesn't understand why you spare him. Although I am not a Christian I see many Christian motifs in this game, though many may be unintended. Morever, it is what you said, many elements are present in other religions too. I am a jew and I felt this with the ethlical choices you have to make through the game. Toby Fox is "like a God" in this game , he puts good and evil and he encourages to choose good through all the story. And in the end...most of the people forgives Asriel, it is the natural thing to do. It is an instanct. Obviously a gamer wants to know everything about it , even the genocide route, but catches message. If real life was a game it would be pointless, saving and loading every now and then. That 's the final point, live life doing the right thing, and then leave it .
The thing is that doing bad things can FEEL rewarding If there wasnt any appeal to it people wouldnt do them And while everything would be better if everyone did the right thing(the True Pacifist essencially) bad things and actions still create unique interactions and put people to the test in real life, so aside from it being a game, it would be desingenuous if the game did NOT show you this side in the Genocide Route That said, in the end you're always left empty Literally, the entire universe in Undertale is left a empty void because of you, which reflects very well the result of your actions I highly recommend Radiarc's "Temptation" video where they tried to convey this and the commenters summed up very well what is represents The difference between what is good and what feels good
Regarding the Undyne/Alphys criticism, how would you even write a "same sex relations=bad" Aesop through a not-specifically Christian lens and which shows whatever natural consequences of their actions?
God created man and woman to be in just one single relationship: male and female. Not male and male, nor female and female. The only reason why any of this stuff exists to this day is because of Genesis 3: The Fall.
I am not Christian, I’m a Muslim. But it’s interesting to see how similar other religions beliefs are to mine. There are just something’s we can all agree about and be inspired by.
One thing to add onto this; the pacifist run (sort of) mirrors that of the life of a Christian. It’s not easy, but it gets you the best ending by reaching the surface (heaven) and everyone you saved goes free. And if you do the genocide run, it’s mirrors that of a life without God. you get the bad time treatment from Sans, like a hell of sorts. Heck, even when Chara erases your save in the end, it’s mirrors that of the “second death” mentioned in revelations. (Which by that point, there is no turning back, you can’t get a happy ending anymore).
I'm a Christian irl and in the story, well at least in Deltarune, and i just want to say. . . thank you so much for this you did amazing on the view point, Thank God for you man, may he bless you and your family
Actually I’m a Christian my self and I agree a lot with this this video especially towards the end, I do believe we should be respectful not hateful even if we don’t agree with the person’s actions
I think while Toby isnt christian the game does go out of his way to reference Christianity Im not talking about the message of mercy and forgiveness as if thats just a christian thing, though I wholly agree with you on this video Rather things like how the messianic saviour of the monsters is represented as an angel who is a trinity(literally a winged triangle) and how Asriel-Flowey is a literal scapegoat while Chara is a metaphorical scapegoat and both of them alongside you form this angelic trinity that may choose to fulfill this messianic role of saving all monsters or "save" them by - as the Bible puts it - putting then through the sword(or knife in this case) becoming the angel of death(as Gerson himself says) with Chara even calling themselves a demon by the end of it That plus both you(Frisk) and Chara being the Fallen Human, a neat reference to both fallen angels(with you two literally being THE angel of that world, alongside Asriel) and the biblical fall of humanity, with humans literally falling! Of course, I dont think the game was made with christians as an audience in mind, very sure things like Alphys & Undyne as a pairing or everything about Mettaton wasnt made to please (fundamentalist) christians But I still think it was a influence, Toby must have thought the symbolism was neat and if thats the case I agree with him Overall I think Undertale embodies the values of our modern society, which is very liberal and has a great emphasis on things like empathy & tolerance, with a complicated relationship with religion but still very influenced by christian themes & ethics(as we often see with superheroes such as Spider Man) I also find hilarious how Matpat gave Undertale to the Pope, I know, someone haaad to bring it up. But really for me thats going full circle, it was the year of mercy when he did so and considering Toby himself said he felt honored by the act I dont think there's any arguing against it , it was awesome
Right, media often references symbols or myths associated with Christianity (even if many of those things are only from extrabiblical texts, not from the Bible itself lol) but yeah like you said that wasn't the point of this video but still very interesting stuff! Thanks for the comment!
One thing that I feel is that the genocide route is a very mysterious route that some pple out right don’t do because of it being disturbing, which i do agree it shows you things you wouldn’t see before but I would say that it is the story more then the boss battles, because some pple may think “why didn’t they have this normally???” But the boss fights arnt supposed to be cool, there supposed to show that these characters are trying to stop you, and that your murders and sins have caused to take measures to try and stop you, undyne sacrifices her life just so some people can escape the underground, and same with Mettaton, but I would say sans fight shows that if you do bad, that there will be consequences, which you really touched on most the stuff I’m saying but I just felt like saying what I think bout it, love the vid btw ❤❤❤❤
I came here for curiosity since the pope literally listened to Megalovania, and I have been raised in a catholic background. and it's a very interesting analysis that you made, keep up with he good work! btw (it's kind off topic) but me and my cousin are designing a game, that turned out to be similar to Undertale (because of the chance of choices and stuff like that and different endings depending on the ethic you follow) the biggest in between the two games difference is the plot, that mine has darker themes, the pressure I put into players with the choices, and the try of transmitting the few wisdom I got to the players besides my game touches more into emotions and stuff hehe
I’m also a Christian, and one of the largest moral issues in Undertale is the act of fighting. A genocide route is wrong for the fact that you WANT to kill, you actively hunt down monsters and kill them because you want to. No matter what, Genocide is wrong because of that fact. But fighting in some circumstances isn’t wrong…it’s just self defense…right? …kinda. I should start off with the fact that there are two universes/sides here, the lore side, and the meta side. In the lore side, you’re an innocent, panicked child who is defending themself, so a neutral route is justified. But on the meta side, you’re like a god, knowing full well that everyone CAN be spared, and that you can progress without killing, AND you can come back after death with little to no consequences. Because of this knowledge, and power, you have the responsibility to do the right thing. You don’t have the benefit of the doubt anymore, as the player. Here, only a pacifist or true pacifist route is justified.
Hey, Phil! I don't know if you'll see this, but I started following you from the Glitchtale videos and analyses that were posted on Camila's channel. I just want to say: I think this analysis and video was really well made. As a huge Undertale and KH fan, and as a practicing Christian, I agree that there is a lot of truth and goodness to be found in games such as Undertale! I really admire your sincerity and bravery for making a video like this, and I'd love to talk to you about certain topics (like the whole Glitchtale situation or Alphys & Undyne) if you're open to discussion
As a christian myself who's been wanting to buy this game, i was scared, because i didn’t know if any of this was okay. (Obviously some things are in fact NOT okay.) After watching this video, i feel a little safe to say that yes, i will be buying this game some point in the future... just not right now, i recently bought Pizza Tower on my switch and i need to get as much time in that game and my other games before i buy a new one lol
I found this video pretty good. I agree that the mercy and forgiveness themes in Undertale reflect Christian themes due to the choice to forgive Asriel and choosing to not solve problems with violence, but with different actions, trying to be a peacemaker rather than someone who is violent. I also like how you brought up the topic of homosexuality; I found it respectful. Maybe if you want to, you could bring up Christian themes in other games you like, if you can think of any? Just a thought. It's up to you what you want to put on your channel, afterall.
Thank you so much! I have considered the idea of making a similar video like this about other games too, but I don't know when I will get around to it. I imagine I'll do one on Deltarune once that's completely finished, but who knows how long that will be lol. The other game that I've considered doing is The World Ends With You, so I might do that eventually.
I haven't watched that show yet, and it's not really in the niche that I talk about here, but I might do something similar with other video games eventually, like The World Ends With You for example
Look at Fangamer’s description for those cards, and you will see that they are not only not designed to be used as a real Tarot Card deck, but the purpose isn’t for foresight, either. The English description is: “Illustrated by Dogbomber, these 36 high-quality art cards feature characters from UNDERTALE. Each one will remind you of a moment on your journey from HOME to NEW HOME. A good one, hopefully. Each card measures 3.2 x 7.3 inches. Not designed for use as a real tarot deck.” The Japanese description is: ニューホームまで旅の思い出を呼び起こす。その思い出は良いものだったのかどうか、タロットのように自分の選んだ道による。 ＊本商品は一般的なタロットカードの枚数の78枚とは内容量が異なりますのでご注意ください。 ＊英語版です。 Which translates to… “It evokes memories of the journey to New Home. Whether the memory was a good one or not depends on the path you chose, just like the Tarot. ＊ Please note that the contents of this product are different from the standard number of tarot cards, 78. The cards will be Tarot-styled art cards. ＊ English version.” It’s a symbolic take on Tarot cards to where the card can be good or bad depending on the memory, which is a twist on how Tarot Cards can have good or bad foresights. It is directly stated that they are not to be used as real Tarot Cards. The cards themselves have parallels with the characters in the game, but that’s it. Not only are they not actual Tarot cards, not only is the purpose DIFFERENT from an actual Tarot Card, they are PARODIES of them.
Actually, how would Flowey know about LP's or even think someone's watching to begin with? Yeah I'm sure he knows by now but while the game was new this dialog would make no sense, He just knows he's in a game, not that anyone is watching someone play it other then well, the player. Granted while it can work in that meaning it's a pretty weird 4th wall break, but what I really think Flowey was talking about was Gaster. While this would mean Gaster would have to be evil, even more so then the player according to Flowey, this makes much more sense as to who Flowey could be talking about to me.
@@AldinRamic I suppose, but again this would heavily imply Alphys wants to also kill everybody. & guess I can't debunk that beyond it being odd a Monster would want to genocide. Possible, but with Gaster also perhaps losing sympathy I find him to be far more likely.
not a christian, but I heard that the section in the bible condemning homosexuality was a mistranslation. unsure if this is true but just wanted to mention this here just in case! hope you have a good day!
I'm sure many people have tried to claim that, but the Bible has been translated and retranslated so many times that I kind of doubt it. Plus, many of the people who teach the Bible are required to be formally trained to read the original Hebrew and Greek.
There wasn't word "homosexual" in the bible up to ~1900-1945 because it is an english word. Before that there were verses with greek word that means "men/women" and "bed".
I don’t think Asriel gets stuck as Flowey. Part of the games’ theme is Humans’ DETERMINATION and their ability to change fate. I highly doubt Frisk leaves him to that fate especially since he doesn’t deserve it (as no one could have avoided becoming that in his condition.)
Deltarune is a very interesting game so far in the way that it portrays religion, but it's hard to make a definitive analysis of it until the game's finished. So far though it seems like it is not trying to portray Christianity itself, but rather a fictional religion with Christian elements, since that is the religion that most of the general public will be most familiar with. In that case, it will probably go down the same route that many stories that fictional religions do, which is to reveal that the god they worship is either not real or evil/manipulative in some way. Which is actually ultimately an accurate reflection of reality, since any religion that has similarities to Christianity but also has fundamental differences would be considered a cult lol. But in terms of the overall themes I haven't seen any red flags yet.
@@philgaimz9847 "Gnosticism , Religious and philosophical movement popular in the Roman world in the 2nd-3rd century AD." - Brittanica. "Because gnosticism is a disputed term, and the groups conventionally considered gnostic were not part of a single movement, treating their belief systems as uniform is problematic." - Brittanica
@@Namefag23 right, I meant I was wondering exactly where you see it in Undertale lol. (and just so you know, i'm not trying to challenge your claim, I'm just genuinely curious lol)
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Toby was raised a Christian so he's definitely put a few things in there, that and deltarune, I mean even in deltarune a character even has a cross. As much as people don't want to admit to the fact that he's referenced Christianity alot in his games, it's there.
Huh, I didn't know that about him!
undertale has taken a lot from the bible, i mean, asriel being a reference to azreal the angel of death, asgore being a literal encarnation of the devil (antrophomorfic goat that lives under the earth has a trident and fire powers) and a lot of other stuff that goes unmentioned, like, the importance of the number 7 (seven souls to broke the barrier, 7 is the number of god, perfection)
yeah, a lot of stories take things like that from biblical mythology-esque stories, but my focus was more on biblical themes than references. Good points though!
The name "Asriel Dreemurr" can also be respelt as "Serial Murderer". How funny, is it not?
Absolutely FANTASTIC video man! I'm an outspoken Christian as well and Undertale is one of my favorite games of all time! I'm not sure why I haven't drawn the many connections that this game pulls from the Bible, but it also goes to show that it's basically impossible to write a story that DOESN'T point to the Bible to some degree.
Also, BIG props to the way you handled the discussion of homosexuality at the end of the video. Being honest and not shying away from what God says is true is so honorable. Especially in the communities that I know you and I are both apart of, it takes some big courage to say things how they are.
Keep it up man, I'm definitely a fan!
Thank you so much dude! That means a lot coming from someone whose content I have also enjoyed
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE DO A VIDEO OF UNDERTALE IN A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE BEFORE. AS A CHRISTIAN I WANNA SAY THIS IS SUPER HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO!! AND THAT I ENJOY YOUR CONTENT!! :DD
I think my mom and the Bible said it best with this quote: "The path to heaven is never the path filled with roses, but the path filled with thorns."
Undertale's pacifist route is hard to do with low HP and tough boss battles, but feels more fulfilling even if you don't know everything about the characters. Genocide seems rewarding in regards to the lore, but at what cost? In real life, it's similar to how the man downstairs work by pulling you in to a false sense of security until it's too late and your soul is condemned (basically like Pinocchio's Pleasure Island).
Great video and God bless you!! Amen!!! 🙏😊
A powerful message is when you do the neutral ending and the fixed Mercy button appears in the screen and Flowey doesn't understand why you spare him. Although I am not a Christian I see many Christian motifs in this game, though many may be unintended. Morever, it is what you said, many elements are present in other religions too. I am a jew and I felt this with the ethlical choices you have to make through the game. Toby Fox is "like a God" in this game , he puts good and evil and he encourages to choose good through all the story. And in the end...most of the people forgives Asriel, it is the natural thing to do. It is an instanct. Obviously a gamer wants to know everything about it , even the genocide route, but catches message. If real life was a game it would be pointless, saving and loading every now and then. That 's the final point, live life doing the right thing, and then leave it .
Yes! I didn't think of the Flowey moment until I had already recorded the video, which is why I put it on screen in editing
The thing is that doing bad things can FEEL rewarding
If there wasnt any appeal to it people wouldnt do them
And while everything would be better if everyone did the right thing(the True Pacifist essencially) bad things and actions still create unique interactions and put people to the test in real life, so aside from it being a game, it would be desingenuous if the game did NOT show you this side in the Genocide Route
That said, in the end you're always left empty
Literally, the entire universe in Undertale is left a empty void because of you, which reflects very well the result of your actions
I highly recommend Radiarc's "Temptation" video where they tried to convey this and the commenters summed up very well what is represents
The difference between what is good and what feels good
That's a great way of explaining it! I'll try to remember to check out that video when I get the chance.
10:47-11:54 WHAT IN THE IRL NEUTRAL ROUTE 😂😂😂
I literally could not agree with you more, on that last point especially and I appreciate that you are willing to tackle some of these issues.
Regarding the Undyne/Alphys criticism, how would you even write a "same sex relations=bad" Aesop through a not-specifically Christian lens and which shows whatever natural consequences of their actions?
God created man and woman to be in just one single relationship: male and female. Not male and male, nor female and female.
The only reason why any of this stuff exists to this day is because of Genesis 3: The Fall.
I am not Christian, I’m a Muslim. But it’s interesting to see how similar other religions beliefs are to mine. There are just something’s we can all agree about and be inspired by.
One thing to add onto this; the pacifist run (sort of) mirrors that of the life of a Christian. It’s not easy, but it gets you the best ending by reaching the surface (heaven) and everyone you saved goes free.
And if you do the genocide run, it’s mirrors that of a life without God. you get the bad time treatment from Sans, like a hell of sorts. Heck, even when Chara erases your save in the end, it’s mirrors that of the “second death” mentioned in revelations. (Which by that point, there is no turning back, you can’t get a happy ending anymore).
you should do a video about all the bible references in undertale, its full of those.
I'm a Christian irl and in the story, well at least in Deltarune, and i just want to say. . . thank you so much for this you did amazing on the view point, Thank God for you man, may he bless you and your family
wow thanks!
@@philgaimz9847 no prob
but i should be thanking you
If you want another RPG about player choices, guilt, sin and forgiveness, you should play Omori
Actually I’m a Christian my self and I agree a lot with this this video especially towards the end, I do believe we should be respectful not hateful even if we don’t agree with the person’s actions
I think while Toby isnt christian the game does go out of his way to reference Christianity
Im not talking about the message of mercy and forgiveness as if thats just a christian thing, though I wholly agree with you on this video
Rather things like how the messianic saviour of the monsters is represented as an angel who is a trinity(literally a winged triangle) and how Asriel-Flowey is a literal scapegoat while Chara is a metaphorical scapegoat and both of them alongside you form this angelic trinity that may choose to fulfill this messianic role of saving all monsters or "save" them by - as the Bible puts it - putting then through the sword(or knife in this case) becoming the angel of death(as Gerson himself says) with Chara even calling themselves a demon by the end of it
That plus both you(Frisk) and Chara being the Fallen Human, a neat reference to both fallen angels(with you two literally being THE angel of that world, alongside Asriel) and the biblical fall of humanity, with humans literally falling!
Of course, I dont think the game was made with christians as an audience in mind, very sure things like Alphys & Undyne as a pairing or everything about Mettaton wasnt made to please (fundamentalist) christians
But I still think it was a influence, Toby must have thought the symbolism was neat and if thats the case I agree with him
Overall I think Undertale embodies the values of our modern society, which is very liberal and has a great emphasis on things like empathy & tolerance, with a complicated relationship with religion but still very influenced by christian themes & ethics(as we often see with superheroes such as Spider Man)
I also find hilarious how Matpat gave Undertale to the Pope, I know, someone haaad to bring it up. But really for me thats going full circle, it was the year of mercy when he did so and considering Toby himself said he felt honored by the act I dont think there's any arguing against it , it was awesome
Right, media often references symbols or myths associated with Christianity (even if many of those things are only from extrabiblical texts, not from the Bible itself lol) but yeah like you said that wasn't the point of this video but still very interesting stuff! Thanks for the comment!
Has he ever said he isn’t a Christian?
We need a Christian alternate universe version of Undertale. It's about time.
One thing that I feel is that the genocide route is a very mysterious route that some pple out right don’t do because of it being disturbing, which i do agree it shows you things you wouldn’t see before but I would say that it is the story more then the boss battles, because some pple may think “why didn’t they have this normally???” But the boss fights arnt supposed to be cool, there supposed to show that these characters are trying to stop you, and that your murders and sins have caused to take measures to try and stop you, undyne sacrifices her life just so some people can escape the underground, and same with Mettaton, but I would say sans fight shows that if you do bad, that there will be consequences, which you really touched on most the stuff I’m saying but I just felt like saying what I think bout it, love the vid btw ❤❤❤❤
interesting, I love your POV dude. Christianty gets a bad rep in medias nowadays so I like this interpretation.
also, the important of mercy and forgiveness, forgive seventy seven times seven.
I came here for curiosity since the pope literally listened to Megalovania, and I have been raised in a catholic background. and it's a very interesting analysis that you made, keep up with he good work!
btw (it's kind off topic) but me and my cousin are designing a game, that turned out to be similar to Undertale (because of the chance of choices and stuff like that and different endings depending on the ethic you follow) the biggest in between the two games difference is the plot, that mine has darker themes, the pressure I put into players with the choices, and the try of transmitting the few wisdom I got to the players besides my game touches more into emotions and stuff hehe
Thats so cool
I had seen your videos before but I didnt realise/ remember you were a christian too
Excited to see your thoughts on it
I’m also a Christian, and one of the largest moral issues in Undertale is the act of fighting.
A genocide route is wrong for the fact that you WANT to kill, you actively hunt down monsters and kill them because you want to. No matter what, Genocide is wrong because of that fact.
But fighting in some circumstances isn’t wrong…it’s just self defense…right? …kinda.
I should start off with the fact that there are two universes/sides here, the lore side, and the meta side.
In the lore side, you’re an innocent, panicked child who is defending themself, so a neutral route is justified.
But on the meta side, you’re like a god, knowing full well that everyone CAN be spared, and that you can progress without killing, AND you can come back after death with little to no consequences. Because of this knowledge, and power, you have the responsibility to do the right thing. You don’t have the benefit of the doubt anymore, as the player. Here, only a pacifist or true pacifist route is justified.
10:14 Finally, somebody who agrees with me on this topic.
Hey, Phil!
I don't know if you'll see this, but I started following you from the Glitchtale videos and analyses that were posted on Camila's channel. I just want to say: I think this analysis and video was really well made. As a huge Undertale and KH fan, and as a practicing Christian, I agree that there is a lot of truth and goodness to be found in games such as Undertale! I really admire your sincerity and bravery for making a video like this, and I'd love to talk to you about certain topics (like the whole Glitchtale situation or Alphys & Undyne) if you're open to discussion
I'm definitely open to discussion! Were you thinking just here in the comments or somewhere else?
@@philgaimz9847 I suppose direct messaging might be better. I sent you a friend request on Discord!
As a christian myself who's been wanting to buy this game, i was scared, because i didn’t know if any of this was okay. (Obviously some things are in fact NOT okay.) After watching this video, i feel a little safe to say that yes, i will be buying this game some point in the future... just not right now, i recently bought Pizza Tower on my switch and i need to get as much time in that game and my other games before i buy a new one lol
More reason for me to absolutely love this game.
I found this video pretty good. I agree that the mercy and forgiveness themes in Undertale reflect Christian themes due to the choice to forgive Asriel and choosing to not solve problems with violence, but with different actions, trying to be a peacemaker rather than someone who is violent. I also like how you brought up the topic of homosexuality; I found it respectful.
Maybe if you want to, you could bring up Christian themes in other games you like, if you can think of any? Just a thought. It's up to you what you want to put on your channel, afterall.
Thank you so much! I have considered the idea of making a similar video like this about other games too, but I don't know when I will get around to it. I imagine I'll do one on Deltarune once that's completely finished, but who knows how long that will be lol. The other game that I've considered doing is The World Ends With You, so I might do that eventually.
Thank you for this video, I enjoyed it!
Now do Glitchtale from a Christian perspective!
im not christian, but this was interesting to watch, thank you!
Very interesting perspective on things, would like to see you do the same for other media. Maybe a look at Daredevil's portrayal of religion?
I haven't watched that show yet, and it's not really in the niche that I talk about here, but I might do something similar with other video games eventually, like The World Ends With You for example
Are we just going to ignore the fact they sell official tarot cards?
Look at Fangamer’s description for those cards, and you will see that they are not only not designed to be used as a real Tarot Card deck, but the purpose isn’t for foresight, either.
The English description is:
“Illustrated by Dogbomber, these 36 high-quality art cards feature characters from UNDERTALE. Each one will remind you of a moment on your journey from HOME to NEW HOME. A good one, hopefully.
Each card measures 3.2 x 7.3 inches. Not designed for use as a real tarot deck.”
The Japanese description is:
ニューホームまで旅の思い出を呼び起こす。その思い出は良いものだったのかどうか、タロットのように自分の選んだ道による。
＊本商品は一般的なタロットカードの枚数の78枚とは内容量が異なりますのでご注意ください。
＊英語版です。
Which translates to…
“It evokes memories of the journey to New Home. Whether the memory was a good one or not depends on the path you chose, just like the Tarot.
＊ Please note that the contents of this product are different from the standard number of tarot cards, 78. The cards will be Tarot-styled art cards.
＊ English version.”
It’s a symbolic take on Tarot cards to where the card can be good or bad depending on the memory, which is a twist on how Tarot Cards can have good or bad foresights. It is directly stated that they are not to be used as real Tarot Cards. The cards themselves have parallels with the characters in the game, but that’s it. Not only are they not actual Tarot cards, not only is the purpose DIFFERENT from an actual Tarot Card, they are PARODIES of them.
DIDN'T MATPAT RELEASE OF FINAL THEORY OF DELTARUNE WHICH HAD CHRISTAN VIEWS? THIS IS SO COOL THIS CAME PRIOR TO IT
Deltarune has a lot of Christian symbolism. Whether or not it has Christian themes though remains to be seen with how the rest of the story plays out.
Actually, how would Flowey know about LP's or even think someone's watching to begin with? Yeah I'm sure he knows by now but while the game was new this dialog would make no sense, He just knows he's in a game, not that anyone is watching someone play it other then well, the player.
Granted while it can work in that meaning it's a pretty weird 4th wall break, but what I really think Flowey was talking about was Gaster. While this would mean Gaster would have to be evil, even more so then the player according to Flowey, this makes much more sense as to who Flowey could be talking about to me.
Perhaps is he talking about the new royal scientist Dr Alphys?
@@AldinRamic I suppose, but again this would heavily imply Alphys wants to also kill everybody. & guess I can't debunk that beyond it being odd a Monster would want to genocide.
Possible, but with Gaster also perhaps losing sympathy I find him to be far more likely.
My aunt thinks that undertale is demonic because of the souls and asriel, i miss playing undertale with my cousins, i going to show this video to her
not a christian, but I heard that the section in the bible condemning homosexuality was a mistranslation. unsure if this is true but just wanted to mention this here just in case! hope you have a good day!
I'm sure many people have tried to claim that, but the Bible has been translated and retranslated so many times that I kind of doubt it. Plus, many of the people who teach the Bible are required to be formally trained to read the original Hebrew and Greek.
There wasn't word "homosexual" in the bible up to ~1900-1945 because it is an english word. Before that there were verses with greek word that means "men/women" and "bed".
Yeah there are multiple sections and they are all correctly translated
It isn’t true, and any Hebrew scholar can confirm that ;)
I don’t think Asriel gets stuck as Flowey. Part of the games’ theme is Humans’ DETERMINATION and their ability to change fate. I highly doubt Frisk leaves him to that fate especially since he doesn’t deserve it (as no one could have avoided becoming that in his condition.)
I'm a Christian and this game is the beast I recommend this
This is DOPE!!
eyy thanks
Lore of Analyzing Undertale from a Christian Perspective momentum 100
I thought I was alone :)
Me too
Thanks for this review.
God bless.
Great video!
SAME
Even if I'm not a Christian I still like it
nice video man! how do you feel about deltarune? i just want to make sure i’m playing a game that’s not going against God
Deltarune is a very interesting game so far in the way that it portrays religion, but it's hard to make a definitive analysis of it until the game's finished. So far though it seems like it is not trying to portray Christianity itself, but rather a fictional religion with Christian elements, since that is the religion that most of the general public will be most familiar with. In that case, it will probably go down the same route that many stories that fictional religions do, which is to reveal that the god they worship is either not real or evil/manipulative in some way. Which is actually ultimately an accurate reflection of reality, since any religion that has similarities to Christianity but also has fundamental differences would be considered a cult lol. But in terms of the overall themes I haven't seen any red flags yet.
@@philgaimz9847 thanks man!
here's a fun fact
you can get lv 20 in a pacifist route
its been 2 years, how was your grade, if you're comfortable talking about it
uhhh i'm not even sure what my grade was lol but i know i passed the class and graduated!
@@philgaimz9847 congrats!!
@@MaybeLegowo I'm pretty sure I've seen ur comment on a jakei video before
Faz um vídeo falando sobre deltarune
I love deltarune
By the way, y’all know God is brown skinned right?
If you're referring to Jesus being Jewish, then yes
@@philgaimz9847 once I went back and read it, I realized my entire life was a lie!! How you white wash a god?? 😂😂
Faz uma analise cristã de deltarune
Real question: which is worse to you, killing out of hate, or killing just to see what will happen?
there is no "worse" imo. murder is murder
@@philgaimz9847 a wise one, you are.
Well, yah can always 'Reset"...the opponents in-game, cannot. Multiverse stuff..
@@philgaimz9847 i mean, if you absolutely had to pick one, which'd it be?
this is so undertale!
I WANT BETTER GAY PEOPLE IN UNDETRAIL!!!!!!!!!!!
#HugTheGoat
What grade did you get on this???
lol i don't even remember. i passed the class, that's all i cared about
Undertale is less of christian game then it is a gnostic one imo
out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean?
@@philgaimz9847 "Gnosticism , Religious and philosophical movement popular in the Roman world in the 2nd-3rd century AD." - Brittanica. "Because gnosticism is a disputed term, and the groups conventionally considered gnostic were not part of a single movement, treating their belief systems as uniform is problematic." - Brittanica
@@Namefag23 right, I meant I was wondering exactly where you see it in Undertale lol. (and just so you know, i'm not trying to challenge your claim, I'm just genuinely curious lol)
@@philgaimz9847 there is too much pagan and gnostic symbolism that i ain't gonna explain