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It’s not fair to compare players not wanting nostalgia to drive a set vs Konami making a card completely inaccessible. It would be one thing if it was an alternative art, like they did with raye and roze where other versions are available for those who want to play the card. It’s a completely other thing to make it unavailable almost entirely.
I think some people complaining are genuine, and they have valid reasoning. But others that would never touch a Blue-Eyes card are complaining just to complain
It’s unfair… for now. But it’s not a meta defining card (that would crash the game), and IT WILL get a reprint eventually (like with every other card). People is just mad because they don’t want to WAIT. Again, “wait” would suck for a card that gatekeeps a format or would be as defining like s:p …but for this card the only thing you have to do is wait for next year reprint.
@@eduardosr9859 Bold of you to assume it's gonna be reprinted within the year.
@@eduardosr9859 I agree with you, that Magia will get a reprint. And likely even within a year or two (or three). But do you really think they aren't going to pull the exact same thing with the next lower rarity, when they see how much of a chase card it was?
And let's get one thing corrected here: Magia is not going to be meta-defining in the manner of S:P but it fills a potentially similar important role for Blue-Eyes players. And that hits especially bad for Blue-Eyes players because for all their myriad archetype support - with the exception of the Spirit Dragon shenanigan - their cards always suffer from having long been power-crept upon their release. The feeling of having waited for so long that the card has become irrelevant is a very common experience among Blue-Eyes players. And now it's not because of incompetent card design or being afraid of the accusation towards Blue-Eyes favoritism, but because Konami is openly trying to extort money from us.
@@Runenschuppethis is exactly why I’m upset because I am a Blue-Eyes Player. I have waited months for this to release and now that it has and I’m seeing this, I’m completely and utterly heart broken over how they have handled its release and how they only printed it in the highest rarity.
This is depressing for me as a collector, but I have noticed that prices for cards like this tend to fall several months down the line, except for very few exceptions. I'm patient enough to see where prices fall a year out from now.
I dont even care about Magia or anything blue eyes related in the set. Im more concerned about the fact that Konami tcg short printed so many of the cards in that set in particular.
Considering the price and rarity of the card in OCG vs TCG is proof that Konami is jerking us around.
People that are saying "this is the best investment for YuGiOh" are the same people that say "Moonbreon is the best investment" for Pokémon. I know YuGiOh cards don't get graded as often as Pokémon, but it'll be interesting to see what Dragon Magia does long-term.
As a person who not only plays Blue-eyes and the owner of an OTS shop I can say that both myself a tons of other players are super bummed about Dragon Master Magia being this hard to obtain. I've actually seen people flat out refuse to buy this set because of the odds of getting the only card they want from the set so it's also negatively impacting my abolity to move sealed product.
Rarity collection 2 , Dragon Master Magia, and the infamous "ask your friend," incident really shows how much Konami hates us. Especially us old players who use the game as an escape to better times, now a lot of us have bills to pay, mouths to feed, not to mention a game that doesn't even provide proper prizing( doesn't have to be money,but quality prize support you see in Locorna is a prime example.)Either they need to get in touch with their player base or find new management that cares about the player base, rather than scalping us for our nostalgia .
😂😂😂
Dont think Konami will ever change, even if the company fails they wouldnt listen.
Yeah I say we all just protest or boycott
You're talking about the same playerbase where everyone could never agree on anything and has a tendency to complain about anything for the sake of complaining, especially during terrible formats. If Konami actually listed to them, then the game would most likely be in a much worse state right now, especially when it comes to elements like the banlist. Also, please don't try to speak for the playerbase. There are a lot of people who don't feel the same way you do about RC02, Magia, etc. To many, RC02 was a decent set, even though it didn't include more recent cards like Chaos Angel and S:P (reprinting those two would've caused the EV in later sets like this year's Mega Tins to take a nosedive). Magia is a terrible card and meant to be collectible. Dragion is getting a more accessible reprint soon, and you don't even need it in order to play Tenpai.
And then us TCG players look at the OCG and we're like 'ooohhh... '
Honestly, I dont think you're wrong about the reprint but I do think a reprint is something they might hold until the 30th
That would shock me based on recent reprints of nearly everything
@@Ruxin34 Yeah, the fact stuff like Exodia and Accesscode got 25ths SO fast after starlights was wild. It's more of a "hunch" that they could hold out for a 30th moment with this card, which like all speculation could just be very wrong.
@@House_Of_Champs if it does hold out that long, the stonks people may get a W🤣
I agree with you. This card wont get reprinted for a awhile. 30th anniversary might be pushing it but it will for sure take a few years for a reprint.
Fuck TCG, I've switched to collecting OCG cards a long time ago. Quality is better, prices are fair and much cheaper, cards look beautiful and as for rarities, you have so many more options, even for this card (got it super cheap as a secret rare, still looks beautiful, the qcr is nowhere near expensive like the TCG). It just feels better as a long time player and collector, much more rewarding than being screwed over and over from the TCG
Yeah im really about to make that switch cause this is ridiculous. I bought 4 boxes and only pulled one QCR and it was the Ib, the worst one, so yeah im kinda over giving them money just so they can laugh at me.
TCG cards are so low quality compared OCG that is almost a joke to collect TCG instead of OCG.
I feel like being able to read the card’s name and effect is probably more rewarding but I’ve heard great things about OCG print quality
as a casual collector it’s OCG over TCG all day. Especially with older ultimate rares, they pop way more than english versions for half the price
@@tedbayham1849if we're just talking about collecting, why would it matter much if you can read the text on the card? If anything the ocg wins here too because it's the country of origin for ygo...
I have an OCG Magia and the price difference is so extreme that I could've bought return flights to Japan to pick the card up in person and it STILL would've been cheaper than buying a TCG Magia. Fuck the TCG.
This is insane... I've got the money for it... but I'm not willing to spend this much for one card.
same, i have the money but im not spending nearly 800 bucks for this card, ill go buy a prize card for that money like an SBPR or the BLS Normal
I was willing to spend 50 to 60 dollars on a regular Ultra Rare. They just don't want my money.
If you had the money for it, you would buy it if you wanted it. A lot of adults have money for a lot of things but have other priorities.
Exactly it’s like can but financially it’s not the move
had the card casually in the basket while it went up the roof, long story short.. got it for 320 bucks which is a loooot, but I´m a blue eyes fan, so I´m happy
Really didn't expect Ib to be the lowest value QCR. Pretty sad situation to be in for the og dragon link enabler
Dude my first box had her in the first pack I opened. I was so happy/pissed
@@dinolover I find that hard to believe, but if true... holy shit that's unbelievable
@@jumpman1233 no dude I'm not joking. My very first box I opened and my first pack had Ib QCR. Trust me, I had so much hope after seeing that and it was shattered into dust. 4 boxes, 1 QCR, no Magia. Ya boy is done lol
Finally YGO is collectable again we need more of this from Konami some actual CHASE in sets that aren’t spamming reprints
All it takes is one reprint to tank the value. Trading cards are never an investment.
Watch, the sold data is inflated because it was bought and then sold $50 more. But i doubt it was short-printed. Popular now because word-of-mouth but if it isnt played, it will go down before it goes back up for original printing collections.
My airplane is delayed! Thanks Ruxin for keeping me entertained while i wait 💪💪
Plane will be delayed way longer than 15 min 😂 ✈️
@@Nate1995 in fact we are entering the gate right now 🤣 but I can ask for a refund
Another good point I think is worth mentioning is market manipulation on the other side trying to knock down the market price. There were recorded sales today for $20 and 50 cents
Im sure not all QCR have the same ratio. I've seen lots of Phantom of Yubel pulled, but not a lot of Magia.
Ruxin when that day comes on the reprint you should make the shortest video just you saying, "HA!! Told I ya so!!" 😅
It depends if they reprint the card if the value will hold up. And of course Konami will. A good investment probably would be tournament pack 2 ultras in my opinion
You are pretty much correct about this, the card will most likely get a reprint and the card will lose that value.
If it's hit lower than 400 I'm buying
Lmao
I said to my self yesterday
Hey Presale is done let me check how much in went down.
Surprise Surprise
You need to do more card value type videos explaining if you think cards are over or under valued! That was great!
Think you're right in the sense that reprints will come in eventually and it will hurt the QCR's market value. I don't see this as a long term hold until the reprints hit and the people who just want to play the card have a chance to pick up lower rarity. That being said, until that point it's probably going to be a wild ride in terms of market price until those reprints hit. I guess you could kindof call this a 10,000 Dragon type of card in the sense that right now it's strictly a collectors/luxury item. Don't see this dropping to $200 or below ever my guess is it will be about a $400-$500 card for the novelty and story behind it
Not gunna worry it will come down eventually, and if I ever want it for my binder, I’ll be able to get it pretty cheap maybe not in QCR but will definitely be in a different rarity’s
It’s really not fair it’s only a game/ then collector cards so if those who don’t believe that it will go extremely high price then we can definitely keep it that way this is business thinking just squeeze the last profit for any fool to fall for!
Love the discussion! Feels like i learned alot
Seems like a couple magia were sold and resold a couple times pretty quick which would also artificially drive the price up
A while ago I bought 4 random packs of Brothers of Legend and pulled Starlight Dragoon, I used up my luck for a while haha.
I hope they reprint the Magia someday so I can put it in my collection but I'm not gonna spend multiple hundreds of dollars on a card
Really enjoyed this market discussion video
Hey I wanna buy a lord of the tachyon galaxy booster box but no one ship to south Africa any advice?
I have one on my site ruxin34.com
I wanted 3 for different collection (blue eyes, black Luster and Dark magician) but is crazy that prize I would rather wait for a reprint
Magia will get a reprint after not too long i wouldn't even be surprised if a lower rarity will be available when new Blue Eyes structure comes out late October, which has been confirmed 8 brand new support cards. Ppl just want something about the set to complain about.
i think the talk surrounding this card definitely pushed it up in price. in cardmarket i saw it selling for 350 just 2 days ago and now its at 750 for an english version
Dang 3 QCSE per case only?
So, the fact that I got Secret Yubel and QCSE Yubel in 1 box is extremely lukcy, huh?
I bought 3 boxes of got 1 QCSE phantom of yubel and 1 secret rare one out of 3 boxes !
@@Kime11550 You know what is crazier? Someone had the same exact pull before me. I guess my local is just that lucky!
I’ve been playing for along time I want to only collect the old series the XYZ’s and the links are a little confusing and the when it looks like a spell card with monster
It’s not that complicated trust me.
Xyz, have 2 or more (or in some cases 1) monsters with the same level and put them on top of each other. Links, can you do addition?
Definitely the selling point for the Set. I figured it go up to $400-500 follow QCR S:P projection
Magia vs 10000 Dragon , i think it’s more playable both collectible
Can someone explain why the. Vast difference in hype between this dragon magia n the Japanese version for about 120 to 150 graded 10 at that lol
I play competitive and haven't played a blue eyes deck in years, I bought many cards to be able to play magia when it came out since my locals is getting more casual friendly, with the ra02 reprints hinting to magia being playable, I'm fuming about the price of this card
Do you buy cases from TCGPlayer? I’m trying to buy a case of crystal revenge for the starlight exodia pieces there’s boxes available currently but I haven’t been able to find cases and not sure where else to look. I know it’s a somewhat old set too so I’m assuming it’s just cause it’s old.
Dawg just buy the singles.
Unless you are making a lot of money, or you have a way to divert the funding of said cases, it’s not worth buying cases.
It’s starlights, so it’s not actually 1 per case.
I have a friedn that is a really collector of BE stuff... When the set/rarity was annuncied ,i said to him to get it in japanese becuase was cheap. He did because the card, and more here, because the chnage of prices with money convertion are crazy! And more with the obvious short printing of the card,... with the change here the card at the minimum price is almost 10k pesos.
Meanwhile here in the OCG I got mine for like $80
My main argument is because OCG got two rarities upon release and just now a third rarity being ultra and they only give it to us in one rarity and it being the highest. My second point why I’m upset is because I need it to complete the new build of my deck. I’m just heart broken because I forgot sure thought we would get two rarities upon initial release of the card
I mean, from a perspective of a YGO player that likes to actually buy and play meta decks, I believe that making an almost unplayable card a QCR, that its value resides on fanservice is 100% okay for me...
My greatest problem with the set is how Phantom of Yubel is a Secret Rare so it means it appears once per two boxes so you have to drop $200 for a full playset.
I was seeing Yubel even less than that, once every 4 boxes on average
As of right now, Magia comes in 3 rarities UR(JP/KR), SE(JP/KR), and QCSR(All but AE/SC)
A big issue is that people dislike the OCG and TCG differences for the sake of money
For buy a Japanese verison for 5$ on ebay thats what i did lel
Honestly, the real proof whether it will be printed or not is when the tins come out this year and if we see magician of bond and unity reprinted, we will know Ruxin34 was right because that will most likely happen Dragon master magia
Tahn pho sho must be this channel’s biggest sponsor lol
Now here is the thing... this video actually did calm me down a bit... heh... Thanks! :)
What happens if this gets the ten thousand dragon treatment? So no reprint?
A card i really want to have in english- but until the reprint comes, an ocg copy will do just fine :)
Maybe some buy this card as a future investment in case some will figure out to cheat summon it, cause the effect on dragon master magia is extremely good, we talking about at least 2 card negates versus any modern deck, one spell and one monster negate, there is even the possibility for 3 by including also a trap card activation.
There is supply & Demand curve. Magia has less supply and Waaaay more Demand. Thats why price went up. But yeah, absolutely not paying more than £100 for this card
I like having a few cards that only come in high rarity, and Komoney will eventually reprint it cause they are on a crusade to destroy the secondary market
Wouldn’t be surprised about ghost listings here to prop price for float
This may get reprinted sooner in september when the advent of the blue eyes structure deck comes out in the ocg along with the rarity enhancement pack. But since its max rarity already its most likely not going to be in the pack.
I'm upset it's qcr because I wanted to play it. So I guess I'll wait a year for a reprint to play it
Hearing all this has me thinking how crazy my luck was then, because I only got one box and pulled the Magia! Still not sure if its worth holding or to sell it
Insane luck. Sell it immediately
I do think players or people in general who say "this is the best investment ever" don't know at all how the market and these things in general work. Well, they're the ones who are making the sellers happy right now because this card is definitely going to the ground
If you bought Magia at $500 presale and flipped it ASAP huge W. But yeah in the long term don’t see this as a winning stonk
It's pretty insane to me that Magia goes up for that much, regardless if it involves nostalgia, very high rarity, possibly short printed too. It's brand new.
At least the OCG has it far cheaper and in multiple rarities so my binder will certainly feast with that instead. Locking it to QCR in the tcg i feel just locks the 99% from getting any decent shot at a neat card.
You got a point king. The only thing I find annoying is that they made it so damn difficult to pull. And the only people who will own this and future cards following this principle will be rich people or UA-camrs, which is bad for the game as sellers won't buy them.
Love the card tho and exclusive rarities 🤷♂️
Keep crushing Rux 🙌
Let's be honest with each other, we get shafted pretty bad compared to the OCG, including tournament prizing(s) etc. There's probably a number of reasons for this but like what do we do as a player base? Vote with our wallets??? Idk, kind of seems like a lose-lose situation at this point 🙃
Srry i am pretty new in the hobby whit is qcr meaning ? Thanks
But isn‘t it possible that the same Magia Card is sold more than one time so the 52 could be even less or am i wrong ?
I didn’t know this card was only qcr when I first looked at the set. Figured it be about $300 for the qcr if it had another print because it’s a nostalgia blue-eyes card. $700 is way too expensive. Definitely gonna wait for it to go down because it will.
I wanna see how high this card will get. I mean it is lame situation for most of us but still I wanna see how high itll go.
Surely prices will dip as more people open the set and supply increases. How much? That’s the question. And while it’s not exactly a substitute, the ocg version does exist. I think collectors and nostalgia blue eyes folks (the target market for this card) will have to and will turn to the Japanese version. Not everyone can afford a $750 card.
I plan on buying 1 case more and thats it. I opened over 240 packs today just on a whim as a treat. Yes all boosters, and i pulled 0, i repeat 0 QCRs. Got a lot of standard SR yubel sure. But 0 qcrs let alone Magia
This will definitely get a reprint and I agree with Ruxin about this. I will wait and get my copy in a reprint one day. I am not lucky enough to earn that kind of money to buy a card over £500 and if I did would lose ot when the reprint comes out.
I can see some of these QCRs being quite valuable in 10 years as long as this is the only year they do the QCR and don’t reprint the shit out of them.
Yeah I had a feeling this card was not going to drop and instead go up in price….
I know it’s not really the same but from a collector standpoint, the fact you can get all 3 or4 rarities of this card available in the OCG for under $80, just makes this cards TCG price insane. Not worth it by a mile.
I bought one NM english at 399 and 24h later... what happened to the market ?!
Now it's more than 750 😵
Hey Ruxin out of curiosity what's better first edition or a limited edition?
Limited edition is only for special prints, so those will always be the same. 1st edition holds additional value when a set has multiple printings and the 1st ed is always guaranteed to be the original. Meanwhile special edition sets don't really get more than one print run, so all of them are the same amongst each other
Please don't be wrong Ruxin.
Please.
My local buddy said Air Neos never got reprinted. So...
Phantom has been holding too. 😢😭😂
There's more demand for a card whose only access is this print. Alt arts imo don't really count as much toward expected value because some players will be content with the cheap non alt art. Think ten thousand dragon.
Ten Thousand Dragon is also *considerably* less playable than Dragon Master Magia. While Magia isn’t warping the meta anytime soon and probably isn’t the optimal way of playing BEWD, there are lines that can make it without too much hassle and it IS a pretty solid boss monster for a fan favorite archetype. Also entirely possible the new OCG Structure Deck, which will have new Blue-Eyes cards, will make it more viable.
i want the Raye and Roze but im not dumping 400ish dollars on a QCR exclusive.
I just see this card as another 10,000 dragon, I'm in it for the infernoids but if I pull it then nice I get more cards
I dont know why people thought this card was going to drop on release after finding out it was only in QCR
The fact that its only in QCR, pullable between 25 QCRs, Collectors, Nostalgia, Playable, and Hard to pull.
I got a few copies at $400.
hey props to you for saying you were wrong, respectable
We got inflation in Yu-Gi-Oh before GTA 6?
I agree with all ur points u said in ur last video, as well as in this video. The discourse almost certainly helped people collectors have FOMO, and investors wanting to after it especially early.
I also would be shocked if it doesn’t get reprinted at some point. If anything knowing Konami they’ll use its reprint to market whatever set it’s reprinted in 😆.
Also since you mentioned in 2 years, I also believe this card would have dropped a lot in the long run. For one example (you can find more) the secret pharaoh rares from KICO have dropped like crazy in 2-3 years. I personally sold a secret pharaoh Ra for $430 a week or so after release. That card isn’t even worth 1/4 of that now. Almost every high rarity card in the last 4 years have dropped significantly. All these people saying “nostalgia will have it keep its price”, I disagree with considering there’s literally other actual real nostalgic cards in high rarity that have not held at all the last few years. Another example of a huge drop for a high rarity nostalgia card is ghost DMG was $600-$700 at release. You can find it for $140 now or lower.
Of course these other cards have other printings, but that leads to Ruxins last point an inevitable reprint for Magia.
Well said!
@@Ruxin34thanks lol. I wouldn’t be surprised if when battles of legend chapter 2 comes around, Konami goes “remember when Magia was printed as only a QCR in its original set? Well now it’s available in this reprint set!” Would be very much a Konami thing to do.
@@Atlantafan21 then they are like actually why not bring back 10K too?🤣
Great video as always 🎉
Look, if you like buying sealed products for fun, go for it. And if you happen to land some high value cards and wanna sell em for some extra cash, cool.But people who treat Yu-Gi-Oh cards like stocks are pretty pathetic. Your risk is high, your gains are low, and you're actively hurting the rest of the playerbase by pushing for cards to become inaccessible. Go buy actual stocks.
I got lucky and pulled it on the only box I brought for the set.
I'm still with you on this one tbh, the card feels very overhyped and it's entirely plausible that it's being bought out or even intentionally manipulated due to all that hype. Once everything dies down, I can't imagine this card going for more than a fraction of its current price. I don't think they will reprint it immediately, but it feels like something they would be stupid to NOT cash in on. They've shown that they are willing and able to do it, so now it's just a matter of waiting to see whether or not they do it
10k dragon honestly gonna say NO compared to how awesome the design 10k dragon is and still has no other copy in lower than starlight
It seems like they’re trying to copy what they did with starlight rares since most of the qcr’s are way cheaper then what a starlight rare was to drive up their sales on this set.
I mean it makes sense that this card is going up, very hard to pull,
my worry is that they’ll do this again with an actual meta card in the future
People would lose their minds
To the people who are complaining about this being expensive: you know you don’t have to buy it, ya know? You could just buy packs here and there to try and open it. Should it have been available in other rarities? Yes. But I don’t recall people complaining like this about Ten Thousand Dragon when Battles of Legend Armageddon was new. Speaking of Ten Thousand Dragon, you mentioned Magia will for sure get a reprint. Where is 10k dragon’s reprint at then? Case and point
That is the only card that has avoided a reprint. I think that being the 10K “special card” has helped, but honestly won’t be shocked if they do reprint it.
ill wait till rarity collection 5 for the reprint lol
"Maybe if it is you, you can....Look inward"
I know I have a soft spot for dry sarcasm but that might be the funniest thing you've ever said on the channel.
I got a playset for QCR Bike Masquaranar & QCR AppleJuice for 39.99 each today 😂
I will laugh my head off if the reprint in the new blue eyes deck. I'm predicting this.
Bought 9 packs from Walmart and pulled it in the last pack.
As a blue eyes player, it's incredibly disheartening that it was ONLY released as a QCR. I had a whole deck built for this card specifically. Now? I have to completely put aside the deck and rethink on wether or not I actually want to keep the deck, because I can't justify paying over $800 CAD For one single card when the deck I've made requires two. It's like a slap in the face from Konami if I'm being honest. Like, "Oh, We here at konami heard y'all like the blue eyes stuff!. How's about we make a great card for the archtype. Would y'all like that? Yeah? Okay sweet. It's only gonna have ONE type of print and we'll hype it up to make it stupid expensive! Thats what you guys like right? There's no way we could be wrong here." Big ol FU To Konami for this one.
Yeah, def wait for the reprint!! Its crazy now
@@Ruxin34 Yeah, 730 days+ later 😭🤣 💔
@@duelistsupreme0434 at worst I think it is a year. But I could see it being a little earlier
@@Ruxin34 Guess we'll just keep our fingers crossed! Just imagine Ko-Money went and pulled a Rarity collection 2 on the Magia card, and re-printed six months later in January 🤣🤣.
I just always say Konami printed this card to troll people like Ruxin and Mkohl40 who would probably burn through their life savings for cardboard.
I bought four boxes myself but I was gunning for the long haul and got my infernoid and spright stuff so I was happy
Inb4 its printed in the sexier platinum secret rare or somethin within like 6 months from now rofl
I think that if the players are complaining about wanting to play the card but it being too expensive, it is a valid argument. I mean I know one of those players, he was telling last saturday at my locals that he wanted to play it but couldn't spend $700 on it.
It's way too crazy, honestly. And it's not the first time this happened. But it being a QCR only is the actual issue here... it'd been ok if it had both versions, or even an alternative art on QCR.
It is definitely okay to complain about that. The people I was referring to are using mocking blue eyes cards, but have now flipped to complaining about not being able to get said card