wow... he had been continually non-detectable whilst on treatment... and then when he came off treatment the virus thrived in his body and became detectable again. Who could have imagined such an outcome?
+Jason Armstrong ... WTF is wrong with people. I just finished chemo for Hodgkin's and if I had gone with "alternative" cures/medicine I would probably be close to dead now. I was already feeling the cancer begin to make me ridiculously exhausted 6 months ago. There are things that work these days because scientists have been working on them for decades tirelessly. Will it get better in the future? Absolutely. But going with something "alternative" for something like cancer or HIV is insane.
+Jason Armstrong Won't be that quick, but HIV is ravishing the US south and generally by the time some people there figure out what is wrong with them and figure out access to treatment, that treatment is useless. Southern black women are in this category. This is bad because if you do take the modern treatment in time, you can live almost as long as everybody else, but the south is rather indifferent to people with the disease in their communities. Another screwed up thing is some of the best meds are for treatment naive patients and once they become resistant, then the next regimens aren't as convenient. So Charlie is probably screwing himself out of just taking 1 pill per day of say Stribild to keep his numbers down, and now will be taking some crazy regimen with all sorts of odd drug interactions with common drugs like Flonase or Simvastatin, &c.
I watched a documentary in which all of the individuals in it were HIV positive and ALL of them had serious cardiac related issues that required surgery as a result of being on the HIV meds.
The fact that he said " I was born dead" shows he must be so depressed, maybe suicidal. He gave up. When some people are diagnosed with an incurable disease, rightfully, depression may occur. Some start acting/ making irrational decisions but Thankfully some people fight it by staying on medication. But his behavior was havoc long ago. Nevertheless I hope he comes to his senses and save himself. With all his resources he can do so much. What a shame wasting his life away.
Jacqueline Sobotowicz Well it's a bit selfish of him to let himself die without taking responsibility of his kids' childhoods, it can be damaging growing up without a father figure
Top Definition Tiger blood Only the Gods, Tigers, and immortals have tiger blood, such as Charlie Sheen. You are invulnerable to anything, including drugs. You win every second of the day and your a bitchin' rockstar. Also known as Adonis DNA.
honestly just because a practice isn't conventional does not mean it won't work lol I know people that have cured their cancer with hemp oil !! you can't tell me there's only one way to get a solution
It's a quality of life issue. You need to balance the negative side effect of the pills with the expected increase in life expectancy. I don't know how toxic HIV treatments are now but they were deadly when they first came out.
Adam G alternative medicine is a large encompassing term. if it isn't standard medical drugs/procedures then it is pretty much alternative medicine. I would say colloidal silver is alternative medicine yet is the most potent anti microbial product known to man. That's why it was used in the recent ebola in the USA and is used to disinfect hospitals that get overrun by resistant microbs and would otherwise need to be shut down. Look up results rna and their products acs silver and steriplex.
I think they're being a little simplistic. Modern medicine is wonderful, but its not a panacea. Modern drugs, when taken for extended periods of time, can be toxic and can have awful side effects.
+edydon do we even know this is not about modern drugs? People were going to Mexico FOR modern drugs to treat HIV/Aids in the 80's & 90's, because Mexico had more advanced drugs, modern ones, than were available in the USA. I'm not clear on the facts at all (ie terrible job covering news TYT)
"Most referees do not understand what I say and turn down my papers. With the referee system which rules US science today, this means that my papers are rarely accepted by the leading US journals." -- Hannes Alfven
I don't no why Sheen prefers alternative medicine, but i salute him for his bravery and going out (possibly) on his terms. Its not how long you live that matters, its how much joy and control you have with your time.
Guys dont even miss hours !!! it is very very critical!!! (its coming from a MD) if you succeed a 95% timely medicine intake , you will avoid resistance 75% of the time
It is his choice to stop taking medicine, it's also his life and his decision on his HIV problems, at the end of the day, Charlie Sheen made a decision that's right for him.
He might be depressed, I hope he's seeing a therapist. Most lives aren't beyond redemption, he could still have his best years ahead of him. Instead of going a different route for his HIV, he should've continued with those meds and tried a more zen thing for his emotional issues.
Charlie Sheen is going to die soon enough and I am not going to feel sorry for him. He has behaved recklessly throughout his career and continues to do so. This is what he wants.
He said is a doctor doesn't have a license that would be the end of his visit. Then he said that we wiped out Ebola which isn't true so it's the end of my visit.
"Alternative" in the context of medicine equals "doesn't work." Alternative medicine that has been verified to work is just called "medicine." Agree with Cenk. Sheen is completely insane, but he's having fun with it. Too bad he's getting conned by alternative medicine nonsense.
Alan D. That's talking really specific people. I'm talking about other successful people that got successful from their hard work, and those type owe nothing to nobody. I just don't like when self-built rich people get called privileged when they actually worked to get where they are instead of jealously labeling others as privileged
Are you sure that you guys aren't blowing this out of proportion? Mexico has modern medicine-its just cheaper so people often times opt for it instead of American medicine.
He should know alternative treatment won't work for hiv. He has all the money in the world, and he chooses not to buy medicine. People all over the world would love to afford the medicine.
I could see seeking alternative mess with cancer, because chemo is basically the main treatment. But if you have the money, HIV is so easily controlled nowadays through modern medicine
+billybob jenkins It really depends on the kind of medicine. Some herbs really help because substances in them are also used for "chemical" medicines. But... acupuncture, homeopathy, etc work in some cases because of the placebo-effect (which is proven to be real), but has nothing to do with medicine.
+UCreations Science-based medicine has natural and man-made medicines. Alternative medicine does as well. Acupuncture is completely unnatural (is not found in nature), but is an alternative medicine. Neti pot was alternative medicine until tested and shown to work. Now it is not alternative medicine. Now it is science-based/western/conventional medicine. Real acupuncture (needles into the meridian points in order to manipulate chi flow) has never worked. I use the term "real", because the definition is so broad, that people tend to call even the use of a TENS unit (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator), needles with electricity going through them, as acupuncture, and the last I checked Chinese acupuncturists didn't have electricity. Homeopathic "medicine" (another term that is used so broadly as to lose any meaning unless we qualify the term specifically), that is remedies create using Hahnemann's "law" of similars and "law" of infinitesimals , can be proven with grade 10 science and maths to be mathematically impossible to work. It is a common misconception that placebo is mind-over-matter. The placebo-effect has never cured anybody. It has subjective improvements. It doesn't limit any disease (with the exception of blood pressure related illnesses, but for the sake of simplicity, I am going to ignore this). A placebo will lower pain, it will lessen nausea, but it isn't going to get the germs out of your body faster or make you more likely to survive an illness (there are some very rare exceptions to this, but rare enough that they are not applicable in the overwhelming majority of cases). In fact, in a placebo controlled clinical trial, you ideally have at least 3 groups. The active group getting the actual medicine. The control group getting nothing. And the placebo group receiving a fake medicine. If the active group preforms better than placebo, we know it works. If it preforms equal to or less than placebo, we know it doesn't work, or the effect is too small to measure so is practically useless. We don't go and declare the medicine is fit for use if it matches placebo. Every medical journal worth its salt states that giving a placebo for any reason other than a clinical trial is in fact unethical. If you give someone a placebo, they have less subjective symptoms. This means they take longer to go to the doctor, which means they are more likely to die because the disease will have progressed further by the time they get treatment.
Damon White Thanks for this great reply. We don't disagree (I think), but you're definitely more into this than I am. I have a physics background (definitely no medical) and I know about the placebo effect, that it has an effect on many things that are mind/stress related (and mass hysteria...), but of course a placebo or homeopathy or acupuncture won't cure any real disease.
We love Charlie Sheen because he marches to a different drummer. The only response to his decision should be supportive. The stigma and negative stereo types that still exist around this disease is disheartening. We don't have the right to judge his personal decisions. Fame doesn't not give the public that right. To demand that right is selfish and self serving of the immature. (let me just name drop Steve Jobs) People with a diagnosis of a terminal disease come face to face with their own mortality. Right or wrong they must live and die with their choices.
sam is not licensed in the usa. however he is licensed in Europe and many other country's. we have set on this cure for a decade....there is more I will post later.
Charlie Sheen needs to fight harder for his life, I don't know him, I don't watch him on tv, but hes my cousin's uncle so that makes him family to me. He needs to fight for the ones that care about him at least. D:
I'm not saying. What Charlie sheen did was right but dont bash all natural medicals that is not right there are a lot. Of natural medical that actually. Work take it from me a witch.
+Nathan McWilliams I agree with you but I believe that the ones that work are being researched now. In fact, western medicine contain plant based elements, too. Also, i think that natural medicines are excellent for curing simple stuff. For complex diseases like the HIV, they will work, too, but it probably involves using different plants just like western medicine. This means that research will have to be done for that. I'm not gonna trust a guy telling me that his drugs work when he's not even licensed. If he's that smart, he could get the drugs tested and then mass produce them and make loads of money!
Charlie Sheen has an astounding lack of 'joie de vivre' by replacing all the fun memories we ever had of him in Hot Shots from our collective minds with this latest 'dear diary' update - that nobody asked for I might add.
wow... he had been continually non-detectable whilst on treatment... and then when he came off treatment the virus thrived in his body and became detectable again. Who could have imagined such an outcome?
"Do you know what you call alternative medicine that's been proven to work? Medicine." -Tim Minchin
He's not licensed in the U.S that doesn't mean he's not licensed in the country where he is doing medical practices.
medicine won't cure you. you need to cleans the cells.
Yes !!
You know what they call alternative medicine that's proven to work? Medicine.
My sister has had HIV since 1988 and never stopped meds and lives Healthy to this day...
he'll be dead within a year and a half
+Jason Armstrong ... WTF is wrong with people. I just finished chemo for Hodgkin's and if I had gone with "alternative" cures/medicine I would probably be close to dead now. I was already feeling the cancer begin to make me ridiculously exhausted 6 months ago. There are things that work these days because scientists have been working on them for decades tirelessly. Will it get better in the future? Absolutely. But going with something "alternative" for something like cancer or HIV is insane.
+martinaee bless ur heart.
+martinaee There's some people who get what they deserve
+Jason Armstrong Won't be that quick, but HIV is ravishing the US south and generally by the time some people there figure out what is wrong with them and figure out access to treatment, that treatment is useless. Southern black women are in this category. This is bad because if you do take the modern treatment in time, you can live almost as long as everybody else, but the south is rather indifferent to people with the disease in their communities.
Another screwed up thing is some of the best meds are for treatment naive patients and once they become resistant, then the next regimens aren't as convenient. So Charlie is probably screwing himself out of just taking 1 pill per day of say Stribild to keep his numbers down, and now will be taking some crazy regimen with all sorts of odd drug interactions with common drugs like Flonase or Simvastatin, &c.
+Jason Armstrong
depends on how strong his immune system is. HIV doesn't kill you directly, but rather by secondary infections from other pathogens.
"I was born dead"
Chalie Sheen is so deep and talented. He should had been a Musician.
The actor wants to live. Drugs, certainly those anti-virals, mean misey and death.
i think may be this is why they killed Dr.Sebi
Hmmmmm interesting
Of course it is.. money would have been taken out of their pockets
Dr sebi died
I watched a documentary in which all of the individuals in it were HIV positive and ALL of them had serious cardiac related issues that required surgery as a result of being on the HIV meds.
The fact that he said " I was born dead" shows he must be so depressed, maybe suicidal. He gave up. When some people are diagnosed with an incurable disease, rightfully, depression may occur. Some start acting/ making irrational decisions but Thankfully some people fight it by staying on medication. But his behavior was havoc long ago. Nevertheless I hope he comes to his senses and save himself. With all his resources he can do so much. What a shame wasting his life away.
If he wants to die, it's his right. Just don't infect anyone, and pass away.
People value life too much, sacrificing your comfort, happiness, just to live a long time.. dumb.
+DontTouchMe Uh so? It's still his life, and if he doesn't wanna live it, then he doesn't have to. Why'd you get so mad lol?
Jacqueline Sobotowicz Well it's a bit selfish of him to let himself die without taking responsibility of his kids' childhoods, it can be damaging growing up without a father figure
+bernie4President2k16 - Stand up and fight! exactly!
He's still the greatest Cleveland Indians pitcher of all time and i'm a gerbil.
Nooo........ Tiger blood is tainted
Tiger Blood is HIV
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Tiger blood
Only the Gods, Tigers, and immortals have tiger blood, such as Charlie Sheen. You are invulnerable to anything, including drugs. You win every second of the day and your a bitchin' rockstar. Also known as Adonis DNA.
I snort paper.
He got HIV from tiger blood?
+graymoe2007 no, this guy's a pothead.
He has very little time to play games with this one...
Funny cause with the treatment he got from Mexico, it cured him
Charlie Sheen is living the Matthew McConaughey movie.
Charlie Sheen's HIV is ... winning!!!
Alternative medicine: If it could pass it's double blind medical trials it would just be medicine.
honestly just because a practice isn't conventional does not mean it won't work lol I know people that have cured their cancer with hemp oil !! you can't tell me there's only one way to get a solution
No Ana no one owes no one anything. You can get mad if you want to but you don't have the right! Please.
You guys are late. I've already seen articles saying he started taking his medication again after the Mexico fiasco.
if the medicine works, it is no longer is considered 'alternative'.
he IS licensed...not in the US - but in many other countries...
You know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.
Bye Charlie Sheen you won't be missed by anyone under 50.
I don't watch many movies with Charlie sheen but I do know who he is and when I saw that he had hiv my reaction was "CHARLIE SHEEN HAS HIV?!?!?"
I guess you have not been, doing your research on alternative medicine. With proper dieting he can be perfectly healthy.
Jeffrey Williams not healthy!
It's a quality of life issue. You need to balance the negative side effect of the pills with the expected increase in life expectancy. I don't know how toxic HIV treatments are now but they were deadly when they first came out.
probably regular meds interact badly with drugs... - guy needs his coke -what's the big deal ??
R.I.P.
Such conformists! Are they scientists who have researched alternative healing to compare the pro and cons or is this simply conjecture?
You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? MEDICINE
+Onodera1980 you know what they call Allopathic medicine in China? Alternative medicine.
+Onodera1980 I was just about to say that
+Onodera1980 that isn't true. medicine that works is still called alternative medicine depending on what it is.
+WaterspoutsOfTheDeep If it works then it's not alternative medicine.
Adam G
alternative medicine is a large encompassing term. if it isn't standard medical drugs/procedures then it is pretty much alternative medicine. I would say colloidal silver is alternative medicine yet is the most potent anti microbial product known to man. That's why it was used in the recent ebola in the USA and is used to disinfect hospitals that get overrun by resistant microbs and would otherwise need to be shut down. Look up results rna and their products acs silver and steriplex.
...why hasn't he been charged for not informing his sexual partners of his hiv????
How do you test tiger blood for HIV?
"HI EVERYBODY!"
"HI DOCTOR SAM!"
Hold up . . speak for yourself Ana he doesn't owe anyone shit, he can do whatever the hell he wants. It's his life, you try having HIV. .
I would gladly trade Charlie Sheen to get either David Bowie or Alan Rickman back.
He has the right to do whatever he wants!! What is the big deal!!!
Who's Charlie Sheen?
It's his body and if he feels that natural medicine will make him well... Then what is your problem with him gaining his health back.
I think they're being a little simplistic.
Modern medicine is wonderful, but its not a panacea.
Modern drugs, when taken for extended periods of time, can be toxic and can have awful side effects.
+edydon do we even know this is not about modern drugs? People were going to Mexico FOR modern drugs to treat HIV/Aids in the 80's & 90's, because Mexico had more advanced drugs, modern ones, than were available in the USA.
I'm not clear on the facts at all (ie terrible job covering news TYT)
"Most referees do not understand what I say and turn down my papers. With the referee system which rules US science today, this means that my papers are rarely accepted by the leading US journals."
-- Hannes Alfven
I would have done the same, if i get HIV and Charlie is dead by then, I will choose meds. Charlie, you are a hero!
And now we wait...
In France we say SIDA instead of AIDS, and when someone goes off their meds we call it Sida-cide...
I honestly feel like this is karma for what he did to Corey haim
Corey haim was brilliant!
You should do a story on HIV and Aids and it's origins.
Just because your not certified in the US doesn't mean your not a legitimate professional.
It appears he has given up... A sad fate. Still remember him from Two And A Half Men..
It's worth considering things like Dallas buyers club. The FDA has shown itself to be a bit of a sham.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
The tiger blood and cocaine should keep him going.
Why do we give Sheen a platform like his diagnosis is more important than someone else with a life threatening disease?
Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proven to be safe and effective? Medicine.
To much "Dallas Buyer's Club" for him... He's cut off 😂
I guess we need to congratulate him on his inevitable Darwin award, then.
I don't no why Sheen prefers alternative medicine, but i salute him for his bravery and going out (possibly) on his terms. Its not how long you live that matters, its how much joy and control you have with your time.
It's so, so sad when any person's mental illness gets the better of them. This is undoubtedly no exception.
Guys dont even miss hours !!! it is very very critical!!! (its coming from a MD) if you succeed a 95% timely medicine intake , you will avoid resistance 75% of the time
Some people want to do more than survive. They want to Live
It is his choice to stop taking medicine, it's also his life and his decision on his HIV problems, at the end of the day, Charlie Sheen made a decision that's right for him.
He might be depressed, I hope he's seeing a therapist. Most lives aren't beyond redemption, he could still have his best years ahead of him. Instead of going a different route for his HIV, he should've continued with those meds and tried a more zen thing for his emotional issues.
Charlie Sheen is going to die soon enough and I am not going to feel sorry for him. He has behaved recklessly throughout his career and continues to do so. This is what he wants.
He said is a doctor doesn't have a license that would be the end of his visit. Then he said that we wiped out Ebola which isn't true so it's the end of my visit.
Not licenced in the us
"Alternative" in the context of medicine equals "doesn't work." Alternative medicine that has been verified to work is just called "medicine."
Agree with Cenk. Sheen is completely insane, but he's having fun with it. Too bad he's getting conned by alternative medicine nonsense.
"Privileged" people do not owe "less privileged" people a damn thing :/ that's some selfish thinking right there
Alan D. That's talking really specific people. I'm talking about other successful people that got successful from their hard work, and those type owe nothing to nobody. I just don't like when self-built rich people get called privileged when they actually worked to get where they are instead of jealously labeling others as privileged
Dr sebi
He's back on his meds.. He said at the end of the Dr Oz show he admitted that he was going back on them.
Are you sure that you guys aren't blowing this out of proportion? Mexico has modern medicine-its just cheaper so people often times opt for it instead of American medicine.
If he wants to risk his health by using alternative "medicine," more power to him.
R.I.P. Charlie Sheen
He should know alternative treatment won't work for hiv. He has all the money in the world, and he chooses not to buy medicine. People all over the world would love to afford the medicine.
He put da lime in da cocoa puffs and drink it all down...
TYT should do a follow-up to say that Sheen is back on his previous treatment now, at least according to his manager Mark Burg.
I could see seeking alternative mess with cancer, because chemo is basically the main treatment. But if you have the money, HIV is so easily controlled nowadays through modern medicine
you guys should be happy for him, Sheen has been staying positive through all this media bull shit for the past 3 years.
+William Henriquez
And all that it took were a couple of pounds of coke and a mental breakdown on national tv.
+William Henriquez
HIV positive
You know what alternative medicine that works is called? Medicine.
+billybob jenkins It really depends on the kind of medicine. Some herbs really help because substances in them are also used for "chemical" medicines. But... acupuncture, homeopathy, etc work in some cases because of the placebo-effect (which is proven to be real), but has nothing to do with medicine.
+UCreations Science-based medicine has natural and man-made medicines. Alternative medicine does as well. Acupuncture is completely unnatural (is not found in nature), but is an alternative medicine. Neti pot was alternative medicine until tested and shown to work. Now it is not alternative medicine. Now it is science-based/western/conventional medicine.
Real acupuncture (needles into the meridian points in order to manipulate chi flow) has never worked. I use the term "real", because the definition is so broad, that people tend to call even the use of a TENS unit (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator), needles with electricity going through them, as acupuncture, and the last I checked Chinese acupuncturists didn't have electricity.
Homeopathic "medicine" (another term that is used so broadly as to lose any meaning unless we qualify the term specifically), that is remedies create using Hahnemann's "law" of similars and "law" of infinitesimals , can be proven with grade 10 science and maths to be mathematically impossible to work.
It is a common misconception that placebo is mind-over-matter. The placebo-effect has never cured anybody. It has subjective improvements. It doesn't limit any disease (with the exception of blood pressure related illnesses, but for the sake of simplicity, I am going to ignore this). A placebo will lower pain, it will lessen nausea, but it isn't going to get the germs out of your body faster or make you more likely to survive an illness (there are some very rare exceptions to this, but rare enough that they are not applicable in the overwhelming majority of cases).
In fact, in a placebo controlled clinical trial, you ideally have at least 3 groups. The active group getting the actual medicine. The control group getting nothing. And the placebo group receiving a fake medicine. If the active group preforms better than placebo, we know it works. If it preforms equal to or less than placebo, we know it doesn't work, or the effect is too small to measure so is practically useless. We don't go and declare the medicine is fit for use if it matches placebo.
Every medical journal worth its salt states that giving a placebo for any reason other than a clinical trial is in fact unethical. If you give someone a placebo, they have less subjective symptoms. This means they take longer to go to the doctor, which means they are more likely to die because the disease will have progressed further by the time they get treatment.
Damon White
Thanks for this great reply. We don't disagree (I think), but you're definitely more into this than I am. I have a physics background (definitely no medical) and I know about the placebo effect, that it has an effect on many things that are mind/stress related (and mass hysteria...), but of course a placebo or homeopathy or acupuncture won't cure any real disease.
Poor Charlie will prove the medicine he was taking worked; but won't if he doesn't. Genius!
i have doctors and my family. they told me that you can work in hospitals in the us if you are unlicensed it depends on the place. becareful
All the people that's about to sue him, he knows what he's doing
So he's back on normal meds and exposed the alternative doc as a hoax.
We love Charlie Sheen because he marches to a different drummer. The only response to his decision should be supportive. The stigma and negative stereo types that still exist around this disease is disheartening. We don't have the right to judge his personal decisions. Fame doesn't not give the public that right. To demand that right is selfish and self serving of the immature. (let me just name drop Steve Jobs) People with a diagnosis of a terminal disease come face to face with their own mortality. Right or wrong they must live and die with their choices.
Anna seems to be cosplaying as Anita Sarkeesian..
sam is not licensed in the usa. however he is licensed in Europe and many other country's. we have set on this cure for a decade....there is more I will post later.
Peace out, Chuck
He has three kids, he has a responsibility towards them to try and live.
Actually 4 young kids (2 girls with Denise Richards; twin boys with a later wife) and an adult daughter
There's a word for alternative medicine that's been proven to work. It's medicine.
sheen figured out if he goes to mexico and takes his alternative medicine which is most certainly not cocaine, he can live forever.
r.i.p Alan Rickman
Charlie Sheen needs to fight harder for his life, I don't know him, I don't watch him on tv, but hes my cousin's uncle so that makes him family to me. He needs to fight for the ones that care about him at least. D:
I disagree, Sheen doesn't owe us anything. Let him do what he wants.
I'm not saying. What Charlie sheen did was right but dont bash all natural medicals that is not right there are a lot. Of natural medical that actually. Work take it from me a witch.
+Nathan McWilliams I agree with you but I believe that the ones that work are being researched now. In fact, western medicine contain plant based elements, too. Also, i think that natural medicines are excellent for curing simple stuff. For complex diseases like the HIV, they will work, too, but it probably involves using different plants just like western medicine. This means that research will have to be done for that. I'm not gonna trust a guy telling me that his drugs work when he's not even licensed. If he's that smart, he could get the drugs tested and then mass produce them and make loads of money!
These guys want you to think that Carlie Sheen has given up on life
Collin Taylor sort of sounds like he has by going to an unlicensed quack.
his American doctors will not allow him to continue using narcotics.
How many rich have been cured of cancer because of their money?
+Julian Granada I don't know but whatever Steve Jobs was doing didn't work.
Charlie Sheen has an astounding lack of 'joie de vivre' by replacing all the fun memories we ever had of him in Hot Shots from our collective minds with this latest 'dear diary' update - that nobody asked for I might add.
charlie is just confused.
If alternative medicine worked, actually worked, it would just be "medicine."
people use alternative medicine all the time. why is this an issue and why are you reporting on it.