Right? Nerfed for being too good at kiting when that was the whole point of her. Be a caster with evasion. Guess riot wants every mage to be a "roll your face on the keyboard and do a billion damage" champ.
Idk what it is about devs lately where they don't understand their own game. It's not just in lol. It's usually most apperent in smaller patches, but every time I see "rework" in any game, it's become "how are they going to totally forget how this character operates, and what they bring to the table". At this point, champs (especially AP) in league just feel like one damage combo with different VFX, Aurora was a break from that and enabled a niche playstyle (which is the whole point of heros/champions/characters), and that was seen as a nail out of place to be hammered down. I don't even play this champ outside aram, and this "rework" still has me pissed.
Okay rant is still going, but If they wanted to make her kiting less powerful, they could've just lowered her damage, or put in her passive that she can't proc/recives less benifet on-hit effects on autos. Or they could've reduced, or even removed the % Max HP damage on her passive (also because the game has an absurd ammount of it already, and they just put it on every champ instead of doing something creative). It baffles me that they looked at the whole reason this champ had a purpose, and chose to take that away. In kit design, if you have high mobility, you can balance it with 2 things. Either the damage is low, or the character is squishy (and not just a low HP number, this also means they don't have super reliable tools to survive and/or there are windows for them to be punished which don't require too much to exploit. The severity depends on the ammonut of damage and mobility.) They decided to keep her squishy, change practically no damage, and she's just as durable as she normally is. In other words, they just made her worse for practically no tradeoff. On top of all that, the mobility/movespeed was the entire purpose if her kit, they literally, on an objective basis, took away what made her unique/what justified her existence. This is why I say balance teams don't seem to understand their games. There are obvious rules, like, the kit design 101, that they are blatantly breaking.
Her w gives move speed now, and a lot of it. Her ult duration got increased allowing for more kiting and jumping back and forth. I think you’re missing the forest for the trees. They literally enhanced the unique things about her while toning down some ms else where. I’ve also seen your comment else where so it’s not original and just people complaining without understanding.
@BloodDrenched-y6i wow, giving movespeed on a w ability, definitely unique. It was the attacking and actively DOING something that made her cool. The fact that it's just "press to get movespeed" sucks.
Like, "Between Worlds" was this trap-cage that traps Aurora with Her enemies. Now it slows enemies and traps Aurora?! They ruined a really cool champion.
@ extremely disappointing and now she’s just a below average burst mage like her passive makes no sense healing wise since you just one shot combo squishies and your cooldowns are more higher that the hit and run playstyle is irrelevant they really don’t like battle mages anymore and it’s sad but I will say her dmg numbers will might be nerfed because that burst combo is deadly now since she’s s tier in higher ranks now
@@luxustabanao7602What seperates her is that kiting, being evasive, and annoying. That's not really a thing with other mages/casters, and if it is, there's only 1 or 2 ways to do it. She also doesn't do crazy damage right out the gate, so it's different from how bursty other AP kits are
Idk why aurora got gutted her passive did two things and the heal wasn’t even noticeable. But akshan has the same ol 7 effect passive. And then champs like yone who do literally EVERYTHING get to just dominate. SMH
New idea: Tiny Cho'gath, you play him full AP and never R so you stay small and cute. You can dodge spells while doing massive damage, could even be viable.
i hate the fact they just turned her ult into a ziggs bomb. aka big aoe, i liked the uniqueness of having a team morde realm type ult. The "super slow" really isn't anything to so many champions. half of them just negate the slow. So really it's just back into a big aoe ult for damage.
@ yes but it’s been a little weird recently where he’s uploaded just compilations of previous videos of a singular character so I’ll either comment that and won’t let it affect the streak or just won’t comment on those videos. Otherwise the climbing videos and whatever I do comment
Trick build of the day, Aurora Banning her is actually a net positive in your gameplay. Then again after her rework there's not much to say about that champ, just your regular bursty mage. Iceborn Gauntlet if you wanna be extra EXTRA annoying, being invisible is such a hassle to deal with, so you can Q auto-hop-invi away uninterrupted.
La cosa con Aurora es que es un animal de presa y su Gameplay (antes) mostraba esto con ese buffo de velocidad que ganaba con la pasiba. Ahora sin esta, es solo un conejo indefenso ante campeones más rápidos que ella. La definitiva también es una molestia ahora que la han cambiado pero el que se borrara la velocidad de movimiento de la pasiva me parece aún peor. Aún peor hubiera sido si llegan a sacar el cambio a su w. Eso sería matarla a escopetazo sucio.
1:52 its a buff because now you can ensure liandrys can keep applying with max efficiency and the timers just sync up perfectly, so you cant accidentally let ythe marks disappear!
2:00 its for liandry her q (or passive its been a while) does mor dmg the lower the hp so you wanted to press the second q at the last possible moment for the most damage NOW it will just do it at the best time for the most missing hp dmg
She seemed "not fun" at launch imo, now she seems boring too. Te be fair though, it could well be that Gnar's fault, he was 1000% committed to not dying - he had, only a single attempt at offense, that i recall.
Hmmm.. Her 2nd Q cast. The only reason I could see any benefit in delaying it would be because of Liandry's to prolong burn, Shadowflame to proc crit for enemies at threshold, horizon proc when out of range and possibly also for Cosmic drive to maintain speed for kiting/chasing. Otherwise I do think it's weird to let you delay it. Maybe it's also for big brain combos like for waiting out shields and other clever stuff like that.
Q is also an execute so some people maximize as much damage as they could deal with skills and autos for 3-hit passive proc during the cd window before the recast. q 2nd cast being auto just makes sure you still get the benefit of the 2nd Q incase you missed recasting it while trying to deal damage during the window due to either ccs or simply forgetting to recast
They keep doing this and this is why I'm so certain deadlock is going to kill league. Every time they introduce something interesting, a fun champ, something new. They just erase it because the top 2% of league players get the final say on what's not fun in the game and what is. It's sad and boring.
Ngl, changing her passive to not give movement speed feels like she lost her identity. That was the whole reason I played her, casting abilities and getting movement speed at the same time while being slightly annoying to enemy champs. I'm probably never going to actually play her again :(
2:01 YESS I wish they give this too Renata Glasc too~ it's so annoying when you get CC'd after using Q and it just won't recast to push them away meawhile they allow their favorite child K'Sante too move after getting CC'd with his W
Reason for why you want to delay her Q return is because the return does more damage based on missing HP. So now you can actually just keep on auto attacking until it runs out and it will likely do a little bit more damage at the end. Might be miniscule in 1v1s and maybe not worth it if you wish to proc electrocute or something... but in lategame teamfights with lots of bursts going on it'll definitely help to delay Q to output more damage.
they reworked a champion thats barely a year old, still refuse to work on shyvana after over 10 years of people BEGGING and consistently voting her to the no. 1-3 spot of "PLEASE FKING FIX THAT CHAMP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD" lists. riot are absolute clowns.
Hear me out this is one thing i wod love if thay did. Make sure you still can walk out sure but make so if you dash out you get knocked towards the center a bit this whay you can time it with ppls escape or engage wod still be a nerf but still have more skill expressions with it. What you all think.😂
@@pawhunter340 very slippery and hard to catch while her unfair double casting ability makes it so free for her to proc runes like electrocute. Percentage damage, invis and huge aoe ult with slow and teleporting. She counters close range tanks, that i prefer to play. That why :)
Can't believe we already have an "Old Aurora"
In the meantime Ryze, Azir, Zak, without rework or new skin for about 4-5 years alrdy
@@Seedix0714 You are aware that Ryze have had multiple reworks and by far the most out of any champion right? 😂
Wait till we got old embber😂😂😂
@@Seedix0714azir just got a new skin
@@Seedix0714bros on drugs
How disappointing that everything that made her standout is gone
Right? Nerfed for being too good at kiting when that was the whole point of her. Be a caster with evasion.
Guess riot wants every mage to be a "roll your face on the keyboard and do a billion damage" champ.
Idk what it is about devs lately where they don't understand their own game. It's not just in lol.
It's usually most apperent in smaller patches, but every time I see "rework" in any game, it's become "how are they going to totally forget how this character operates, and what they bring to the table".
At this point, champs (especially AP) in league just feel like one damage combo with different VFX, Aurora was a break from that and enabled a niche playstyle (which is the whole point of heros/champions/characters), and that was seen as a nail out of place to be hammered down.
I don't even play this champ outside aram, and this "rework" still has me pissed.
Okay rant is still going, but
If they wanted to make her kiting less powerful, they could've just lowered her damage, or put in her passive that she can't proc/recives less benifet on-hit effects on autos.
Or they could've reduced, or even removed the % Max HP damage on her passive (also because the game has an absurd ammount of it already, and they just put it on every champ instead of doing something creative).
It baffles me that they looked at the whole reason this champ had a purpose, and chose to take that away.
In kit design, if you have high mobility, you can balance it with 2 things. Either the damage is low, or the character is squishy (and not just a low HP number, this also means they don't have super reliable tools to survive and/or there are windows for them to be punished which don't require too much to exploit. The severity depends on the ammonut of damage and mobility.) They decided to keep her squishy, change practically no damage, and she's just as durable as she normally is. In other words, they just made her worse for practically no tradeoff. On top of all that, the mobility/movespeed was the entire purpose if her kit, they literally, on an objective basis, took away what made her unique/what justified her existence.
This is why I say balance teams don't seem to understand their games. There are obvious rules, like, the kit design 101, that they are blatantly breaking.
Her w gives move speed now, and a lot of it. Her ult duration got increased allowing for more kiting and jumping back and forth. I think you’re missing the forest for the trees. They literally enhanced the unique things about her while toning down some ms else where. I’ve also seen your comment else where so it’s not original and just people complaining without understanding.
@BloodDrenched-y6i wow, giving movespeed on a w ability, definitely unique.
It was the attacking and actively DOING something that made her cool. The fact that it's just "press to get movespeed" sucks.
31:26 RIOT JUST REWORKED AURORA AND SHE'S BASICALLY A NEW CHAMPION!
LMAO
Wait so you're saying he clickbaited me?
My thing is what’s the purpose of her flying in and out of the ult if they can just walk out
Like, "Between Worlds" was this trap-cage that traps Aurora with Her enemies. Now it slows enemies and traps Aurora?! They ruined a really cool champion.
@ extremely disappointing and now she’s just a below average burst mage like her passive makes no sense healing wise since you just one shot combo squishies and your cooldowns are more higher that the hit and run playstyle is irrelevant they really don’t like battle mages anymore and it’s sad but I will say her dmg numbers will might be nerfed because that burst combo is deadly now since she’s s tier in higher ranks now
@@sav9561 it’s crazy that they didn’t like how mobile and slippery she was and had to take that away… and then released Ambessa.
@@luckas221a Hipocricy at it's finest.
riot "OH GOD WE MADE A UNIQUE CHARACTER? QUICK PUSH OUT A PATCH TO MAKE HER BORING AND BASIC!"
What exactly is deffirent on her? cos all I see is her same kit but she's slower
@@luxustabanao7602What seperates her is that kiting, being evasive, and annoying. That's not really a thing with other mages/casters, and if it is, there's only 1 or 2 ways to do it. She also doesn't do crazy damage right out the gate, so it's different from how bursty other AP kits are
Unique?
Quite bold of you to call a 3 hit passive champ, with dashes and invisibility "unique" lol
Hahahhahaahaha😂😂😂@@Shadhun98
Aurora may have an overloaded kit on release but not gonna be as busted as Aphelios was or how problematic for riot was Azir is
I feel like they throw her of cliff because she was mad to be a toplaner so making her different just take away her identity as a champ
Idk why aurora got gutted her passive did two things and the heal wasn’t even noticeable. But akshan has the same ol 7 effect passive. And then champs like yone who do literally EVERYTHING get to just dominate. SMH
Check Pro stats, almost completely pick banned
New idea: Tiny Cho'gath, you play him full AP and never R so you stay small and cute. You can dodge spells while doing massive damage, could even be viable.
Or just R to do good damage when engaging so you don't miss out on damage
@@arthurreede4478 especially group fights
Didnt she get released like 2 months ago?
Its been 4 months but yeah still really soon
Tbh no one played her, I saw her once, and in aram lol
@@psychogamertr time is an illusion
i hate the fact they just turned her ult into a ziggs bomb. aka big aoe, i liked the uniqueness of having a team morde realm type ult. The "super slow" really isn't anything to so many champions. half of them just negate the slow. So really it's just back into a big aoe ult for damage.
14:45 if you look over your UI with all the cooldowns, on the right side, you can see how long the burn from liandries/shrooms will last
“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed a melee minion
Lose Streak: 4
do you count the Zwagmo channel as well?
@ yes but it’s been a little weird recently where he’s uploaded just compilations of previous videos of a singular character so I’ll either comment that and won’t let it affect the streak or just won’t comment on those videos. Otherwise the climbing videos and whatever I do comment
Dude, there's someone who's copying you, wtf.
@@Skeptical_Sheep not the first time this has happened lol
They fooled me earlier but, it won't happen again. Probably.
She had too much to her kit?
Did they mistake her for K’Sante?
I dont mind the R change, but the MS passive and the W reset were what made her fun and standout to me
that slow out of ult doesn't seem that slow
its 75% LMAO
Trick build of the day, Aurora
Banning her is actually a net positive in your gameplay.
Then again after her rework there's not much to say about that champ, just your regular bursty mage.
Iceborn Gauntlet if you wanna be extra EXTRA annoying, being invisible is such a hassle to deal with, so you can Q auto-hop-invi away uninterrupted.
"Did Zwag get the first 6 CS"?
No, he missed a melee minion
Lose Streak: 5
Hey you’re not me
I’m late cause of a photoshoot and get another copier, damn 😔
kylebertss the goat
We got fake kyle before gta 6
Hey! I got bamboozled! No copying Kyle, please! 😡
Funny how I've seen a reddit post about roining a champ with one change and with Aurura it was that ult no longer traps enemies
Wow, the slow in her ult was unbelievable. Not even Nasus' "Wither" is so punishing... (there may be some sarcasm)
La cosa con Aurora es que es un animal de presa y su Gameplay (antes) mostraba esto con ese buffo de velocidad que ganaba con la pasiba. Ahora sin esta, es solo un conejo indefenso ante campeones más rápidos que ella. La definitiva también es una molestia ahora que la han cambiado pero el que se borrara la velocidad de movimiento de la pasiva me parece aún peor. Aún peor hubiera sido si llegan a sacar el cambio a su w. Eso sería matarla a escopetazo sucio.
1:52 its a buff because now you can ensure liandrys can keep applying with max efficiency and the timers just sync up perfectly, so you cant accidentally let ythe marks disappear!
Yeah new champs should not be good at kiting. Ambessa sees my left pinky toe in minimap and immediately gains a shield and uses two dashes to run away
yes 200 years riot how dare you have a kit that can hang with the op brusiers and tanks right now, how dare you.
They have essentialy nerfed her, not reworked
2:00 its for liandry her q (or passive its been a while) does mor dmg the lower the hp so you wanted to press the second q at the last possible moment for the most damage NOW it will just do it at the best time for the most missing hp dmg
as someone who hasnt played league all year, Aurora seems so sauceless, was she received well on launch?
rule 34 took her release pretty well otherthan that she was in debate to be a 200 yr old champ
Wasn't Aurora released last week?
Zwag sadly lost five cannons
Delaying the Q retract could be usefull for extending burns and effects like morello's or rilai's , timing stuff like dark harvest.
at least they let her keep w reset, that was removed too initially
She seemed "not fun" at launch imo, now she seems boring too. Te be fair though, it could well be that Gnar's fault, he was 1000% committed to not dying - he had, only a single attempt at offense, that i recall.
1:53 the benefit is it does execute damage so waiting for them to take more damage will give you a more powerful 2nd Q
Hmmm.. Her 2nd Q cast. The only reason I could see any benefit in delaying it would be because of Liandry's to prolong burn, Shadowflame to proc crit for enemies at threshold, horizon proc when out of range and possibly also for Cosmic drive to maintain speed for kiting/chasing. Otherwise I do think it's weird to let you delay it.
Maybe it's also for big brain combos like for waiting out shields and other clever stuff like that.
Q is also an execute so some people maximize as much damage as they could deal with skills and autos for 3-hit passive proc during the cd window before the recast. q 2nd cast being auto just makes sure you still get the benefit of the 2nd Q incase you missed recasting it while trying to deal damage during the window due to either ccs or simply forgetting to recast
I guess Phase Rush Aurora is kind of getting Aurora's movespeed passive back, now.
Does her w still reset?
And yeah I dunno why it's so hard to get cannons in laying phase with her specifically
Title: "Basically a new champion"
Quote at the end of the game: "She doesn't feel much different"
It's always interesting to see how many people buyed onto calling small changes and adjustments a "rework"
Seeing you playing Aurora makes me want to play too
Can you try Full Ap Poppy with W Max first and with items which cant do physycally and dont have AD ?
They keep doing this and this is why I'm so certain deadlock is going to kill league. Every time they introduce something interesting, a fun champ, something new. They just erase it because the top 2% of league players get the final say on what's not fun in the game and what is. It's sad and boring.
damn I havent played leauge in awhile, Didnt even know there was an old Aurora
Crazy that I haven't touched this champion and she's already reworked.
mids in the top lane, supports in the mid lane, jungles in the bottom lane i love meta changes
Ngl, changing her passive to not give movement speed feels like she lost her identity. That was the whole reason I played her, casting abilities and getting movement speed at the same time while being slightly annoying to enemy champs. I'm probably never going to actually play her again :(
scryers orb does not reveal teemo shrooms anymore?
Zwag: She was too good
Me: seeing her played in aram like 3 times since she was released
2:01 YESS I wish they give this too Renata Glasc too~ it's so annoying when you get CC'd after using Q and it just won't recast to push them away
meawhile they allow their favorite child K'Sante too move after getting CC'd with his W
I didnt even notice that aurora was a character in League of legend
Reason for why you want to delay her Q return is because the return does more damage based on missing HP. So now you can actually just keep on auto attacking until it runs out and it will likely do a little bit more damage at the end. Might be miniscule in 1v1s and maybe not worth it if you wish to proc electrocute or something... but in lategame teamfights with lots of bursts going on it'll definitely help to delay Q to output more damage.
haven’t played league in a while, i don’t know who is aurora and why she have already been reworked
Thanks Zwag!
IDEA Heartsteel Vi top. Use arcane skin for thumbnail. I had a godlike game it was unbeatable challenging to pull off.
they reworked a champion thats barely a year old, still refuse to work on shyvana after over 10 years of people BEGGING and consistently voting her to the no. 1-3 spot of "PLEASE FKING FIX THAT CHAMP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD" lists.
riot are absolute clowns.
4:50 anyone the name of this song ?
Goldroom - Till Sunrise (feat. Mammals) 😁
the sound effect of aurora's attack sounds like tetris lol
Why didn't the plant reveal the teemo shrooms
I thought W doesn't reset on kill anymore?
10:30 hollow knight music banging?
ah yes aurora too overkitted so they had to remove stuff like the passive, meanwhile we got akshan with his bible length passive
Looks like one less counter for Ambessa now 🤷♂️
she seems like a sup or mid laner now.
Her highest winrate has always been mid
Where is Yohio?! Is he safe? Is he okay? I need my goodnight wishes!
Old Aurora before Gta 6
I havent played the old one yet😂
They effd up when they removed her ms on third hit...
ah yet another champ that got diluted! excellent I shall play her as a support >:3
now let's hope for ambessa rework.
So basically she got thresh ult now
In all of this… There’s Yone out there😅
Kindred count
Count since the last video 40 days
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Day 101 of asking Zwag to play full move speed Yorick, because no one ever seen a 'Rick run so fast.
.... she's brand fuckin new? jesus Riot, the fuck?
Hear me out this is one thing i wod love if thay did. Make sure you still can walk out sure but make so if you dash out you get knocked towards the center a bit this whay you can time it with ppls escape or engage wod still be a nerf but still have more skill expressions with it. What you all think.😂
hey zwag u ok today? u sound a bit less energetic than usual and anyway i’m sending hugs 🫂🫂🫂
ITS TIIIIIIMEEEE~~~~🗣️❄️
damn she has WAY more range
Riot is just butchering champs, warwick got nerfed to battlestick
ATTACK SPEED AZIR AD
I recognize Hollow Knight sounds anywhere
My YT recap says I'm to 3%🎉🎉
ults = no
alts = yes
now we know who teemo voted for in the presidential elections
i wanna see aurora against a bruiser
Hero has been out for a year. Let that sink in
She was released in July, it's been 4 months
Are we gonna ignore 27:29?
Day 2 of asking zwag to play full ap mord.
Another overtuned champ that needs a rework with the 1st year of release, what a surprise 😅
her E range that sooooooo looooong omg
she already got reworked?😭😭
Ain’t this champion just released……?!
I can’t stop hating this character even when you playing it
Why you hate her?
@@pawhunter340 very slippery and hard to catch while her unfair double casting ability makes it so free for her to proc runes like electrocute. Percentage damage, invis and huge aoe ult with slow and teleporting. She counters close range tanks, that i prefer to play. That why :)
It's TIME!
Hollow Knight OST pog
Shes just another viktor 💔💔💔
Hello Zwag:D
Day 190 of sleeping on a Zwag video
the ult is now useless
Day 9 asking for AP Rell, saw the tank Rell vid and it was nice.
Rell next please