What Do We Know About Ancient Greek Warfare?

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @wattoucheng
    @wattoucheng Місяць тому +1561

    I'm a simple person: I see Roel, I drop a like, and start digging my ditches

    • @hansolowe19
      @hansolowe19 Місяць тому +16

      Roel Konijnenlike?

    • @DharianGames
      @DharianGames Місяць тому +3

      Same

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +8

      omg!!! This man is so beautiful!!! I want to put my face next to the arch of his foot!!!

    • @DharianGames
      @DharianGames Місяць тому +7

      @@DakotaFord592 Well alright! :D

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +1

      The most beautiful part of a man!!! His feet!!!

  • @DrVictorVasconcelos
    @DrVictorVasconcelos Місяць тому +816

    I had a brilliant wordplay to make here, but I decided to ditch it.

    • @macfilms9904
      @macfilms9904 Місяць тому +14

      A very trenchant comment

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +4

      Omg!! This man is so beautiful!! I want to put my face next to the arch of his foot!!!

    • @ilmari1452
      @ilmari1452 Місяць тому +6

      ​@DakotaFord592 Well that is certainly a comment... 😨

    • @MaxHohenstaufen
      @MaxHohenstaufen Місяць тому +1

      🤪

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +1

      @@ilmari1452 the most beautiful part of a man!!! His feet!!!

  • @gunver79
    @gunver79 Місяць тому +573

    Men of the shovel, we meet again.

    • @ClaiireeLiizz
      @ClaiireeLiizz Місяць тому +26

      And Women of the shovel 🙋🏻‍♀️

    • @TheAsdasy
      @TheAsdasy Місяць тому +12

      and my axe

    • @ClaiireeLiizz
      @ClaiireeLiizz Місяць тому +8

      @@TheAsdasy And now I’m envisioning Gimli digging ditches with Legolas and Aragorn in front of Helms Deep. Lolol

    • @madlaughter6792
      @madlaughter6792 Місяць тому

      Salud

    • @Marshy94
      @Marshy94 Місяць тому +1

      Men of the shovel hahahahah brilliant

  • @dusan-renat
    @dusan-renat Місяць тому +473

    I love the fact that he is aware of the reputation that he earned on UA-cam as "The Ditch Guy". 😀

    • @Aradhrin
      @Aradhrin Місяць тому +9

      He addresses it in one of the videos 😂

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому +18

      He's definitely aware! He's a long-time moderator and contributor on the AskHistorians subreddit, has done many online videos, etc. He's tech-savvy and spends a lot of time online.

    • @wedgeantilles8575
      @wedgeantilles8575 Місяць тому +2

      His videos are so good, I love them.
      Such a pity he doesn't have his own channel :(

    • @Izma9
      @Izma9 29 днів тому

      The Ditch -Guy- Lord

    • @pawea1347
      @pawea1347 12 днів тому

      ​@@AradhrinOh, where did he addressed that? In what channel?

  • @WeltgeistYT
    @WeltgeistYT Місяць тому +166

    31:44 "What happened after the Peloponnesian War? Kind of a long story, I mean all of history technically..." Amazing

    • @siggyvdz8213
      @siggyvdz8213 Місяць тому +1

      All of *occidental/mediterranean* History....

  • @myrelaionredux5134
    @myrelaionredux5134 Місяць тому +269

    "If you're having siege problems I feel bad for you son,
    I got 99 problems but a ditch ain't one" 9:50

    • @joem9528
      @joem9528 Місяць тому +6

      That was awesome dude well done

    • @geoffdewitt6845
      @geoffdewitt6845 Місяць тому +2

      Genuinely amazing!

  • @luckyspurs
    @luckyspurs Місяць тому +198

    Roel is an excellent example of the quiet charisma you need to have to be a great university lecturer.
    Very compelling.

  • @michaeljudd5384
    @michaeljudd5384 Місяць тому +353

    I'm absolutely digging this new video! I wouldn't ditch it for anything.

    • @Salih-t5r
      @Salih-t5r Місяць тому +1

      Groovy Greek warfare

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +1

      Omg!! This man is so beautiful!! I want to put my face next to the arch of his foot!!!

    • @KS-xk2so
      @KS-xk2so Місяць тому +2

      Ditch, please.

    • @anonymus390
      @anonymus390 Місяць тому

      Ha!

  • @xDJGEASx
    @xDJGEASx Місяць тому +20

    The BBC needs to give this guy a show. He's so entertaining.

    • @Eagle-eye-pie
      @Eagle-eye-pie 5 днів тому

      They won’t. He isn’t political enough.

  • @coldlakealta4043
    @coldlakealta4043 Місяць тому +181

    Simply the best presenter. Also digs great ditches!

  • @HaesslichG
    @HaesslichG Місяць тому +84

    1:40 - "Who did the Greeks fight?" "YES."

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Місяць тому +6

      Yeah it's hard to throw a stone in Europe and not bump into a place that wasn't Greek or Roman at some point.

  • @Bendesho
    @Bendesho Місяць тому +100

    "Did the Greeks dig ditches, I wonder if this question was meant for me?" Bro, everyone knows very damn well that question was totally meant for you

  • @freddyz3359
    @freddyz3359 Місяць тому +77

    This guy is awesome, can you imagine going to the pub with him

    • @DrVictorVasconcelos
      @DrVictorVasconcelos Місяць тому +28

      He'd just ditch you.

    • @catherinemerrill5511
      @catherinemerrill5511 Місяць тому +3

      I would rather go to class and see a multimedia presentation, take notes, and go to a museum to see artifacts. Thank you, Dr. K.

    • @canchero724
      @canchero724 Місяць тому +2

      We'd all dig him, no question.

  • @sarahmusk7793
    @sarahmusk7793 Місяць тому +85

    Roel is one of the most engaging presenters I have ever watched. I always love his presentations.

    • @wedgeantilles8575
      @wedgeantilles8575 Місяць тому

      And the most important thing: He DOES know what he is talking about.
      And he does not put "modern stuff" into history, e.g. interpreting and judging history from a modern point of view.
      That makes him a historian and that is a very rare treat today.
      That his personality and the way he presents his stuff is highly entertaining and very engaging is the icing on the cake :)

    • @Vishnujanadasa108
      @Vishnujanadasa108 10 днів тому

      @@wedgeantilles8575 This pasty barbarian envies Greeks. The Spartans and Greeks were the most famed sought-after mercenaries in that part of the world and he says they weren’t good warriors. They beat all the mightiest empires around them-much more numerous than tiny Greece-Persia, Rome, Illyrians, Paeonians, Indians, Scythians, Carthaginians etc. he should stick to the history of his miserable depressing foggy Britain and keep the Greeks out of his envious barbarian mouth.

  • @kelseylogas1580
    @kelseylogas1580 Місяць тому +46

    Many thanks to History Hit for recognizing how knowledgeable, entertaining and effective his communication is. I so enjoy every one of his videos. More!

  • @pyroxblaze
    @pyroxblaze Місяць тому +11

    I love this little super-niche corner of the Internet where this professor dude and ditch in-jokes reign supreme

  • @shannondouglass3044
    @shannondouglass3044 29 днів тому +5

    Roel "The Ditch" Konijnendijk strikes again! Always love his videos.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Місяць тому +189

    How many ditches should we dig?
    Ditch guy: yes

    • @samael7867
      @samael7867 Місяць тому +6

      all of them :)

    • @DrVictorVasconcelos
      @DrVictorVasconcelos Місяць тому +7

      If you have time to ask that question, you should be digging ditches.

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +1

      omg!!! This man is so beautiful!!! I want to put my face next to the arch of his foot!!!

    • @philipphogerl140
      @philipphogerl140 Місяць тому

      If your own ditches start providing cover for the enemy, and hinder your cavalries maneuvers, you probably have too many ditches.

  • @antoniousai1989
    @antoniousai1989 Місяць тому +151

    Ah yes, the dutch Flying Ditchman has sailed again into historical analysis

  • @Matt-go7ss
    @Matt-go7ss Місяць тому +111

    Ditch guy! My man 👍

  • @homerthedoomer
    @homerthedoomer Місяць тому +10

    I immediately ditched all my plans and watched the video. I love everything that has this guy in it!

  • @harryrabbit2870
    @harryrabbit2870 Місяць тому +39

    I am a college graduate. If you asked me to conjure up an image of what a college or university professor looked like, I wouldn't think of a guy with a beard, tweed jacket and spectacles. It would be more like Dr. Konijnendijk: young, hair out place, casually dressed, animated and passionate about his/her area of expertise.

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому +5

      Neither image is accurate. Tenured professors often work into their 60s and 70s, so there are lots of older professors around. As I recall, the average age of a tenured professor in the US is around 55.

  • @KS-xk2so
    @KS-xk2so Місяць тому +7

    YES! He has returned! The slow plan to convert History Hit into a channel exclusively focused on the life and times of Ditch Guy continues to succeed!

  • @cas1994
    @cas1994 Місяць тому +21

    quick boys, break time from the ditch digging and time to listen to our prophet roel....then, straight back to work!!!!

  • @emreyurtseven23
    @emreyurtseven23 Місяць тому +33

    I raise my shovel, and salute this man. He who digs with me, shall be my brother!

  • @stamatiskon3049
    @stamatiskon3049 Місяць тому +30

    I see ditches in the screenshot, I click the link. It's that easy!

  • @jordanbooth4470
    @jordanbooth4470 Місяць тому +3

    When you see Roel, you know two things are guaranteed. A great video because he’s a total legend, and ditches will be dug.

  • @spookyboi8446
    @spookyboi8446 Місяць тому +94

    The Ditchlord

    • @villu667
      @villu667 Місяць тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Місяць тому +1

      Omg!! This man is so beautiful!! I want to put my face next to the arch of his foot!!!

  • @wedgeantilles8575
    @wedgeantilles8575 Місяць тому +1

    All videos I've seen from Roel are amazing and great to watch.
    And this is no exception.
    As always, I love his enthusiasm and the way he presents his knowledge.
    But the most important thing for me is: He knows his stuff and he never tries to insert our todays politics and views into his assessment.
    That makes him a great historian and a trustworthy source.
    I just wish he had his own channel!

  • @northwall9243
    @northwall9243 Місяць тому +10

    This was great, would love some deeper dives with Roel into the Corinthian war and such.

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt Місяць тому +23

    Whoever created that thumbnail knew what they were doing

  • @dieusonmalcomson7335
    @dieusonmalcomson7335 Місяць тому +8

    At the end of these it would be cool if you had him recommend a couple specific books he enjoyed on the topics.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Місяць тому +1

      +1 to add bibliography and book recommendations to these videos.

    • @anegaute
      @anegaute Місяць тому

      +2

  • @mohammadvahidi5483
    @mohammadvahidi5483 Місяць тому +6

    hey Dr.Ditch huge fan here, can you do a video on Persians specifically? and not just theirs wars with the greeks, an in-depth detailed exploration of Persia, its political and bureaucratic system, civil rights of different people and castes and ancient Persian society in general and how it was different from greeks.
    thanks a lot
    love your ditches
    keep digging

  • @forestgirl22
    @forestgirl22 Місяць тому +20

    Yay, it's Roel again!! Time for ditches and deep diving but easily understood history!! 😄😄 edit: damn not many ditches in Greek warfare. Dang.

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito Місяць тому +12

    Before UA-cam caught on, I remember watching some updated archeological finds in Troy in a documentary where they said that they had, indeed, found ditches in front of the citadel walls opposite the plain of the Troad, just like the good professor says here.

  • @benoitbergeron8858
    @benoitbergeron8858 Місяць тому +9

    I would prefer if there was no music in these videos. As soon as I start paying attention to it (and I got ADHD, so its often), I can't help but to notice that it quite a short loop and hearing it repeat itself over and over kind of makes me crazy. I loved the video, otherwise!

  • @davidturner6280
    @davidturner6280 Місяць тому +39

    I digged 3 ditches around my house while waiting for another Doctor Ditch video.

  • @GWB184
    @GWB184 Місяць тому +11

    This guy is practically family at this point

  • @patrickb1303
    @patrickb1303 Місяць тому +6

    This guys reaction to the Winterfell battle in GoT has been show to each of my family members. To explain why I was yelling “you gotta be kidding me” like 5 times during that episode. And my wife ratted me out to all of them. 😂

  • @nicolaslorenzo746
    @nicolaslorenzo746 Місяць тому +3

    I would find it so interesting to see his reaction to a game like Rome Total War 2, and his opinion on the different campaigns and Greek city states involved in it!

  • @RoyalDog214
    @RoyalDog214 Місяць тому +2

    I love this historian! I would enjoy watching Professor Roel give historical account and accuracy in every episodes.

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y Місяць тому

      He's actually a jerk.

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому +4

      @@DanSmith-j8y Nah. He's answered hundreds of questions for free on the AskHistorians subreddit--he's generous with his time and knowledge.
      So he was rude to you one time on Twitter. Who cares?

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y Місяць тому

      @@Unknown-jt1jo I care because he blocked me and I can't really understand why. You'll have to just take my word for it, I guess, but I wasn't rude or anything myself. So, I don't know.🤷‍♂

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому +3

      @@DanSmith-j8y Well, I'll take his track record of answering hundreds of history questions (without any financial compensation) over one interaction with one person on Twitter. He's also a moderator on AskHistorians--another thankless, unpaid job.
      Also, Twitter/X is a nasty, toxic place. Maybe he's gotten a lot of crap from other users, and he was feeling defensive. Who knows?

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y Місяць тому

      @@Unknown-jt1jo Or he's just an asshole.

  • @User-54631
    @User-54631 Місяць тому +2

    I hope the algorithm doesn’t ditch this guy.

  • @archibaldchuzzlewit1848
    @archibaldchuzzlewit1848 Місяць тому +2

    Absolutely fantastic video. Super engaging, informative, and entertaining. A+.

  • @jamesscott9818
    @jamesscott9818 Місяць тому +6

    Every time I see the ditch dude, I have to watch it....EVERY TIME

  • @oohmyjooy
    @oohmyjooy Місяць тому +11

    Welcome back Ditch king.

  • @H2O4S
    @H2O4S Місяць тому +2

    That was a super interesting video! Thanks for this Mr. Konijnendijk!

  • @Krystal109
    @Krystal109 Місяць тому +7

    It's interesting to me that even tho Roel is a professor of Ancient Greek Warfare... he also has to be proficient in Greek mythology too thanks to things like the Trojan War. Basically, a master of two fields.

  • @jeroenwubbels7824
    @jeroenwubbels7824 Місяць тому +24

    Julius Ceasar said he had won more battles with a shovel than with a spear

    • @A0A4ful
      @A0A4ful Місяць тому +2

      @@jeroenwubbels7824 Veni, vidi, dici, vici.

    • @liger1411
      @liger1411 Місяць тому +4

      ⁠@@A0A4fulveni, vidi, *fodi, vici

  • @ohsosmooth01
    @ohsosmooth01 Місяць тому +2

    I think the Trojan War is to the Greeks as King Arthur and Camelot is to us Brits. An amazing legendary yarn. Lancelot, the round table, Merlin Excaliber... none of which we have any evidence for.

  • @erinrivera1194
    @erinrivera1194 Місяць тому +1

    We bought this trailer last week and just accidentally stumbled on this video. Thank you Johnson RV 😊

  • @dabombgiggity123
    @dabombgiggity123 Місяць тому +20

    I love Dr. Konijnenditch

  • @annavogel7625
    @annavogel7625 Місяць тому +1

    Would it be okay for Roel to talk about Asterix at the olympic games? It's a movie from 2008 and if I remember correctly the don't have a lot of ditches but a few nice roman formations

  • @Davidosconnolos
    @Davidosconnolos Місяць тому +16

    The Man, The myth. The ditch digger!

  • @goncalosoares4818
    @goncalosoares4818 Місяць тому +3

    absolutely love this guy

  • @DharianGames
    @DharianGames Місяць тому +9

    Saw Roel's face and didn't even read the title. I just clicked.

  • @lilith7572
    @lilith7572 Місяць тому

    Dr. Konijnendijk is my favorite historian 😍

  • @him050
    @him050 Місяць тому +2

    You can tell what a brilliant lecturer Roel is by his frequent use of the phrase, "that's a great question."

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y Місяць тому

      I've interacted with him a bit on Twitter, and he's much less personable there - I imagine he's not praising the quality of questions among his students, but is probably rather dismissive and insulting as I've found him to be.

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому

      @@DanSmith-j8y Twitter is a toxic/confrontational medium. Maybe he's dealt with a lot of assholes.
      I've been following him for years on the AskHistorians subreddit, which is heavily moderated. I've always found him to be civil, helpful, and generous with his time.

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому +1

      @@DanSmith-j8y I've followed him for years on Reddit, and he was always pleasant and generous with his time.
      X is a toxic place, so maybe his guard was up.

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y Місяць тому

      @@Unknown-jt1jo I guess. I don't know. It was to do with the movie Troy, and I wondered if later Greek attitudes, who took it as a given (according to Roel) that Achilles and Patroclus were lovers, if that attitude was held in Homer's day or in Mycenaean times (if we can know). Maybe he just figured I was one of the conservative anti-gay people he says in his Troy video that relationship was "sanitized" for. Ah well. I'm not going to stop watching his videos, but I'm a little soured on the dude himself.

    • @Unknown-jt1jo
      @Unknown-jt1jo Місяць тому +2

      @@DanSmith-j8y I see. Yes, as a moderator on AskHistorians he's had to swat away a lot of questions by holocaust deniers and other idiots, etc. so maybe he incorrectly pigeonholed you as one of those.

  • @A0A4ful
    @A0A4ful Місяць тому +13

    Like trades based names like 'Blacksmith', 'Cook', 'Mason', etc, was there a 'Ditchdigger'?

    • @nazirkazi2588
      @nazirkazi2588 13 днів тому +2

      Ditch-digging is not a skilled job so there wouldn't be. It's probably not until the Sappers that you'd see specialisation of digging-related activity.

  • @EnlightenedPigeon
    @EnlightenedPigeon Місяць тому +11

    I see ditch guy, I click like

  • @TaylorLiam87
    @TaylorLiam87 Місяць тому +1

    Love these episodes

  • @Andrew_Stephenson
    @Andrew_Stephenson Місяць тому +1

    When you see this guy, you know its going to be a banger

  • @VladimirLukele
    @VladimirLukele Місяць тому

    "All of history, technically" Legend
    I love his spontaneous answers :D

  • @nachtschatten8710
    @nachtschatten8710 Місяць тому

    Gosh, how could I have been one day late and didnt see this new vid as soon as it dropped?! Wouldnt have ditched it for the world! 😅 Now, finally I can lean back and listen to our most cherished Lord of the Fortifications and the Ditchman himself, Dr. Roel! ❤ Yay!

  • @jablessfables
    @jablessfables Місяць тому

    always love listening to this man explain stuff

  • @salemxxx5007
    @salemxxx5007 Місяць тому

    I never get enough of Roel Knonijnenijk, and I never get enough of digging ditches

  • @timmccaffery4826
    @timmccaffery4826 Місяць тому

    Awesome presentation of historical information!

  • @marissahammer2229
    @marissahammer2229 Місяць тому +1

    I just love Roel! Any video with him in it, I’ll watch and like 😁 (Also I’ll probably start digging a ditch, just to be safe)

  • @philipphogerl140
    @philipphogerl140 Місяць тому +2

    I wanted to hear about the average ratio of Peltasts to Hoplites in classical armies, but apparently people are more interrested in wheter Brad Pitt actually stabbed that big guy through the shoulder. Sad.

  • @canchero724
    @canchero724 Місяць тому +1

    I was busy with something else but decided to ditch it the second I saw this uploaded.

  • @raychumon
    @raychumon Місяць тому

    yesss can't wait for the next part! now i just need a series like this on rome too and i'll be happy

  • @ryanflynn3861
    @ryanflynn3861 Місяць тому

    These videos are amazing, using them with my kids!

  • @daniel_p94
    @daniel_p94 Місяць тому

    These videos are the bomb-diggity, bro!

  • @stalker-anoniem3515
    @stalker-anoniem3515 Місяць тому

    Great video!

  • @ShadowofFenrir
    @ShadowofFenrir Місяць тому +5

    Varangian Guard i wanna hear more about :(

  • @SheilaS-x6v
    @SheilaS-x6v Місяць тому

    Roel is amazing watched every video

  • @steve8610
    @steve8610 Місяць тому +1

    Love Doctor Ditch! Very frustrated by these questions tho, lol

  • @Grayman720
    @Grayman720 Місяць тому

    This video needs one billion views NOW

  • @littleraeofsunshine
    @littleraeofsunshine Місяць тому +5

    My sister decided to write a stage adaptation of Robin Hood for the children’s theater she produces. Since she asked me to help her come up with characters, there is a castle drudge walking around picking up rocks and digging ditches.

  • @RainKoepke-ic3gf
    @RainKoepke-ic3gf Місяць тому

    I love all his content
    Its fascinating for me as a historian and hes hilarious lol

  • @FunbobbyJ
    @FunbobbyJ Місяць тому +1

    Definitely intelligent, telling cool history.

  • @pavelgl5926
    @pavelgl5926 Місяць тому +2

    Please don't mind the poor jokes competition in the comments. Thanks for the great narrative, I can't wait to see your next video.

  • @alicennet1636
    @alicennet1636 Місяць тому

    Always worth watching Mr. "Dig Ditches"

  • @noodlechild666
    @noodlechild666 Місяць тому

    Honestly, until i started watching this channel and this guy, i had no idea that people like Achilles never actually existed. We didnt study Greek history when i was at school and its not something ive ever considered or looked into over the years.
    I like feeling more educated.

  • @Dalexb
    @Dalexb Місяць тому +10

    It ain't much, if it ain't Ditch.

  • @travisinthetrunk
    @travisinthetrunk Місяць тому +3

    I have a question. How important were ditches?

  • @ChattieGrayParker
    @ChattieGrayParker Місяць тому

    Good luck, roel🎉🥂 you're smart guy

  • @michaeltelson9798
    @michaeltelson9798 Місяць тому +1

    Cuneiform tablets with tales of war suggest that parts of the Iliad were stylized from earlier tales. Actually a common practice in that period.

  • @kmvoss
    @kmvoss Місяць тому

    Thank you for this content.

  • @ArvidNielsen
    @ArvidNielsen Місяць тому

    Loved this!

  • @vanceaadrian6217
    @vanceaadrian6217 Місяць тому +6

    The Digging Dutchman returns 😀

  • @GreenFalcon926
    @GreenFalcon926 Місяць тому +4

    Ah, hello there General Ditchobi. Good to see you again! Great video.

  • @AlexanderYap
    @AlexanderYap Місяць тому +1

    I would like to know how the ancient navies did amphibious landings. Triremes looked too bulky to sail onto a beach. Did they transfer the landing troops from the bigger ships to smaller landing ships?
    What defenses did they have against enemy landings? I heard about the Archimedes heat ray , was this or similar weapons used?

  • @yasuchika
    @yasuchika Місяць тому

    Hurrah, Roel is back.

  • @TSkillz407
    @TSkillz407 Місяць тому

    I love how he is the most popular and constantly brought back. And I hope he is every month 😂

  • @chaneygolden3278
    @chaneygolden3278 Місяць тому

    amazing timing

  • @martineden7075
    @martineden7075 Місяць тому +3

    Finally ditch guy from Oxford educates googlers

  • @Gitsmasher
    @Gitsmasher 20 днів тому +1

    this is not related to warfare but i wish to ask Mr Roy this question
    "What average greek people(not Socrates} though about earthquakes?"
    probably the Titans below in Tartarus are resltess

  • @wag0NE
    @wag0NE Місяць тому +2

    My favourite ditch guy, the OG !

  • @azarisLP
    @azarisLP Місяць тому +15

    Tired: The Trojan War is made up because the Hittite sources don't mention it.
    Wired: The Hittites are made up because the Iliad doesn't mention them.

  • @gilgamesh8334
    @gilgamesh8334 Місяць тому +1

    The man the myth the legend!!!!