They have had this road planned for years before you were even born they knew that the 90s made m1 would not be up to the task of handling the growth in this region and it’s true. Also the reason why people drive is because it’s far more convenient than public transportation for say your commute to work if you live in Pimpama or Coomera and work in surfers or Broadbeach. It literally takes double the time on public transportation. And you can say they can just build or extend the rail line but believe it or not this cost more takes more time to get approval for routes
@@DarKcS2I like your optimism. But unfortunately expanding for traffic expands traffic. It’s always been the case. It’s predicted and then proven each time. Before long, you’ll still have trouble getting on, but you’ll also have a piece of a nice big public debt.
A highspeed train straight from Brisbane to Surfers Paradise would of likely cost the same, and brought substantially more benefits. It sucks our governments cannot see past their car obsessions.
Amazing video! I really cannot fathom that QLD is just copy-pasting a motorway. Sydney sadly did the same with the M5-M8, but the only silver lining there is that at least both those motorways are mostly/entirely underground. To build an entirely new motorway through huge swathes of open space is just so mind-boggling.
Yeah the M5 and M8 represent two different plans for the “end” of the Hume Freeway / Motorway / Highway, and ironically the new one is basically the original plan. But what you say about the tunnels - it’s mostly right, as long as they CLOSE some surface roads. To non-locals I mean. It’s fine for the people who live there to use it! But there shouldn’t be highways carving up Sydney suburbs.
The only reason that it’s going ahead is because it’s 80% federal funding. If the state government had more skin in the game I think it would’ve been canceled
The expenditure for Coomera Connector could have been diverted to fast track stage 4 of G:Link and Gold Coast heavy rail extension to the Gold Coast airport.
@@mitwhitgaming7722 haha yea. Bit different to my normal stuff but just needed to share it. Nothing can change if we don’t make it known that it needs to
Hell yeah! Good to see this video! The rail from GC to Beenleigh is pretty fantastic actually just needs more trains, but it needs a big upgrade from Beenleigh to Moorooka.
Yea I know. I use it a lot and it’s so annoying when to go from flying through all the new track down south to hitting the old Brisbane tracks and slowly swerving your way through. A lot more fun than the Highway tho
They’re working on plans to straighten and quad-track the line to Kuraby at the moment, which is the most problematic section. The whole corridor needs to be quadtracked to get the full benefits, but it’s a start
It takes 2 hours via train and light rail to get from Roma Street Station to Surfers Paradise Station, that’s double what it takes to drive. If we spent the Coomera Connector money on a new alignment for the Gold Coast rail line, you could get the total travel time down to 1 hour and would create enormous commercial and residential development.
@@electro_sykes Wouldn't it be lovely if we could build Australia's first high-speed rail service? It's only 80ks (?) from Brisbane to the GC, so it's a much shorter/smaller project than other proposed HSRs, eg Syd-Melb. It would be a great showpiece and a brilliant addition to our region.
@@VanillaMacaron551 yes and also sunshine coast to brisbane. It can run elevated above both the bruce and pacific highways. whiz pas the traffic. The exsisting allignment of the gold coast line south of beenleigh is ok to be used. It should stop at helensvale because interchange with the trams. As nice as it would be to head into surfers paradise, it would be very difficult.
@@KhanPiesseONE goldcoast fast rail project plans on doing that already, basically bridges over kuraby level crossing, and quad track from kuraby to beenleigh, allows higher frequency and more more express gold coast trains.
My biggest issue with the way our trains are going is the NGR trains themselves. I’m sorry but those seats are 500 times worse than the seats on the original EMU trains that were introduced back in the 70s. And yet the comfy trains are slowly dwindling in numbers. But what do I know, I’m the guy who spends his time researching the trams that Brisbane ripped up back in 1969 to make way for more cars and highways. Thanks Clem Jones, it’s thanks to you that for many years our buses were packed to the brim only being able to carry 80 people while the trams were licensed to carry 110. At least the tram isn’t totally dead in Brisbane as the Brisbane Tramway Museum in Ferny Grove has preserved 22 of the old trams plus 2 of Brisbane’s electric trolley buses which were also killed back in the 60’s by Clem. The oldest tram in the collection is 123 years old and normally 7 of the museum’s trams would be giving rides to the public every Sunday but unfortunately the museum’s substation for the trams bit the dust back in late 2023 and since then not a single tram has moved and the council has done bugger all to help. But hopefully I’ll be back to conducting old trams and sharing my passion with the public. Sorry for dumping tram knowledge into your comments (I’m suffering from tram withdrawal).
@@Gunzel14 yea I definitely agree about the seats. Living in the Gold Coast line it is rare to catch anything other than an NGR so until recently I didn’t know what I was missing. And yes losing the trams in Brisbane is extremely annoying and will become costly when like Sydney they eventually start needing to rebuild the network.
The upcoming Gold Coast Faster Rail project is estimated to cost 6 billion, the price of two Coomera Connectors. If the stooges in parliament actually used their brains instead of wasting taxpayer funds on their pet projects, we couldve already had it by now!
Really well done video! I’m sharing this around to people I know in the Gold Coast. The Coomera connector is a poor use of infrastructure and land. Should be used to host more PT. Subscribed! I hope you keep producing more content
Ok so I’m from Scotland currently in Gold Coast visiting, I genuinely thought when I saw the building work it would be for a train line… This is a great video man with lots of information, keep up the good work!
For accuracy, can you tweak the Blender animations? Mostly so the cars are spaced out to 3-second distances. Of course for full accuracy you’d also want to reduce the lane count to something typical, extending the queue, and adding a percentage for irregular movement. Then for fairness, if a train is 3 minutes behind the last one (a globally standard of excellence), you’d show how far back that is. I’d love that final comparison most of all actually! All you’d need in both cases is their optimal speed - easy enough to find the speed limits on both forms of transport.
@@whophd great ideas. I did the comparison the way I did to try and fit everything in frame as quickly as possible but for a future video that kind of accuracy might be better suited
Well put. When Qld decided it was too good to bother with reviewing its laws, and all that rigging went on...they tore up the existing trams ,,, there are still rails in coorparoo ...thing is...it was money then and it is money now...fact is our taxes paid a company to built stuff, with needlessly borrowed money...gifted land, tax exemptions and insurances...like the gateway and inner city melbourne..and a lot of things wewre different and better before you were born ...at one point Aud was 1.20 us and stable...in the 60s-70s it got to 1.58/60 i think...petrol...was 35c a litre for my parents...intewrest was like 17.7 percent opeople paid 27 000 for a new houser and land whic h was working man 5-10 yeares put it all back in...but it was the 80s...everyone was in ther army reserve and having bbqs...don't believe the hippie reinvention of it...hippies got bashed here and rightly so...throw blood on jim will they? anyhow... good expose...and with it...?I concur.
Well said! Catching the train down to Uni and having to watch that 6 lane monstrosity be built next to it is depressing. Would be cool if you made a video on the light rail to GC airport and all the stupid arguments people in palm Beach make to try and block it.
Really nice work! It's funny hey, don't buy avocado on toast so you could afford a mortgage but the cost of a car impacting your ability to buy a house due to the lack of other transport options - just part of life. Drove to the southern gold coast for school holidays. Honestly once your there it's nice not to have to use your car to go to the beach and shops with little kids, if you could just take a train that got there would be great and a train should be able to go at a higher speed way more safely. The Dutch recently held a grand prix in a small town, over 100,000 people per day went to watch the race and they got there by train, bicycle and walking or bus primarily, also parking a car and riding from some locations. It's amazing. Whereas Brisbane had a Sunday market with 7000 people attending and they had to shut it down due to causing too much congestion on roads because the only way to get there is to drive a car, hmmm. It's nice to have more freedom to choose how to get around safely.
I have enough money to afford a decent car thanks to savings my parents set aside for me when I was younger, but factor in paying for the expenses to run a car like fuel, rego, insurance, etc, it would dig a big hole of debt in whatever i have left.
Sacrifice road money and build maglev HSR transrapid and abandon the long distance intercity trains. Restructure country services to become regional rail services linking the HSR corridor to rural areas
I lived on the gold coast for a few months and got around on foot and by public transport, and I'd always get asked "where's your car parked?" indeed I spent most of my time waiting at traffic lights, trying to dart across busy multi-lane roads with no pedestrian crossings, walking past massive carparks, and trying to figure out where to enter shops without a vehicle.
I still think the alternative route over the river is much needed as the terrible development choices made in Coomera has created some of the worst bottlenecks in the country. Did it need to be highway standard? probably not. But at least they were thoughtful enough to include dedicated separate shared paths along that route too. All the need to do now is connect those back to the train stations and down to Southport/Surfers. I would be rather ticked off if the future extensions of the Coomera Connector got funded though, especially before all the light rail and heavy rail extensions.
Reason why your generation is questioning why we are building more car roads- policies are made and the loudest are the baby boomers, who got used to car dependency
As someone that lives northern Gold Coast (ormeau) i agree they need more transit infrastructure. I believe for the GC itself to improve transit infrastructure. A metro from coomera to harbour town that continues down southport burleigh road that provides additional connections at around nerang street light rail, people first stadium and pac fair among others. I also agree the light rail to extend to harbour town and further to biggera waters and the current train line to the airport (The last 2 i just mentioned should have already been done given the land has already been acquired for it). I also think from Helensvale, Nerang, Robina and Varsity lake train station exclusive bus lanes should start from the western side of the m1 to give those commuters a way to get around without needing a car to get to a station or there destination in the first place and those bus lanes extending to the metro and light rail stops. Theres more that can be done to remove cara along the highway coming to the coast from logan, Ipswich and redlands but in terms of reducing local traffic on the coast this is what needs to be done to begin with
@@CGWillB I'd love to find a map of the old alignment. I understand that there are two tunnels that still exist. Update Ernest Junction tunnel is still accessible, West Burleigh tunnel still exists but was covered by later Pacific Motorway earthworks.
Highways have their pros most certainly. In the situation of Brisbane to Gold Coast…? Provide alternatives that arent car focused because the inner city public transport network in both cities already exist. HSR would substantially benefit SE QLD. Furthermore the network could expand further north or even west!
@@nxthanj high speed rail would be amazing but I personally think the local connections around each city Gold Coast in particular need improvement first. The train is already decent and a high speed rail wouldn’t improve much if you still can’t get to your final destination without a car. But still 100% HSR would be awesome
wow, I was absolutely blow away by this video! The sheer amount of production value in this makes it feel like something a 100k+ youtuber would post, but you somehow have less than 1k. And the animations, WOW. If you keep semi regularly (once ever 2 weeks or so) uploading content this good I can GARENTEE you will blow up pretty soon :D
Haha thanks a lot but I don’t know if I can keep that upload schedule. I’ve been working on this video for about 6 weeks😅. Maybe when real life stuff clears up I could do more.
Well done. But it's not just your generation. I've been advocating for rail in many forms, interstate, intercity, intracity, for decades. And not only for moving people. How many 1000's of huge semi-trailers are travelling on our roads everyday, destroying said roads with their weight and creating safety issues for any smaller vehicles.
@@sabummal that’s great to hear. It would definitely help a lot of people if everyone was willing to take a step back and look at the way we do things.
WOW. Seeing this quality made me think i was on a channel with way more subs, incredible stuff. Twice i year i travel up to my grandparents up on mount tambo. Last time i was up, i thought to myself "can i get down to the coast car free?". Worst mistake of my life. The shuttle "bus" if you can call it that was cramped and only comes around five times a day. Not only that, but you have to RING the operators of the bus to reserve your seat the day before, and it's exempt from the 50c fares, so it cost a fortune. As a result, not many people use it, and it shows with carparks at busy areas never being free and events running out of parking horribly quickly. The Gold Coast deserves better than this.
@@goldcoast8549 thanks a lot! yea, the infrastructure hasn’t changed much since it was a small tourist town. The busy areas and events don’t have enough support from alternate forms of transport to get people there leading to what car parks can fit being expensive and full.
The rail system in Australia is under utilised. If trains were used to take trucks off the Bruce highway it would be safer. Jobs for truck drivers will go from long haul to short haul to deliver good from the train stations to homes and businesses.
Make it a two lane each way road and then the third lane can be a dedicated metro line. 150 passengers per bus brings some of the benefits of mass transit without the massive cost of rail.
@@rmar127 that would definitely be a massive improvement over the current implementation. However true rail systems do pay for themselves long term a lot more than buses
Heavy rail not only needs to be expanded to Gold Coast (and Sunshine Coast) Airport,but also directly to Surfers Paradise and Southport. The ability is there but the drive isn’t. Likewise, Brisbane needs a proper under ground metro system. Now they have the skilled people there from the construction of Cross River Rail, keep them there. Instead they’re going to build another bloody road tunnel 🤦🏻♂️
Ahem, what about we keep going to Murwillumbah and join up to the XPT! If we did this I’d even sacrifice the Solar Train, and lay dual gauge through the Gold Coast. Kyogle makes no sense.
I've been a lifelong rail freak....YES, SEQ needs MORE Rail, but there are serious weaknesses to some of the concepts presented here. Two obvious 1) Tradies/logistics can not use public transit. 2) The road commute between BNE/GC is just part of the mix, it's what people do with their cars, when they reach those destinations....again, public transit suffers serious limitations after people have moved along the primary corridor and enter the "personal commute" element of their journey! YES, SEQ should embrace a "TransApex of Rail" BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba, but road will always be a big part of the mix!
Totally agree. Public transport will never be 100% of the solution but improving it would definitely help and building more private vehicle infrastructure is almost certainly not steps forward
"BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba" in 45 minutes each, was in the infrastructure plans for 2042. Who knows what that's slipped now, and how much more it's slip after a change on government in October.
$3 billion could've bought a hell of a lot of buses to boost services and a possible LR extension to Harbour Town, and possibly the train line to Elanora at least. I compiled a list of all 60 bus routes the GC has, and found that 63% of them run hourly and finish before 7pm - and in some cases they run every 2hr or not at all on weekends. The coomera connector will only create induced demand.
Wow I didn’t know that many of the bus routes were that bad. But yea they are definitely lacking and around where I live it’s challenging to get to the tram or train stations to even start my journey with the available buses
It's not being built for your generation. Not even mine or my son's generation. It's being built for the 2032 Olympics and beyond. Another thing to consider is that infrastructure planning is notoriously slow and never gets it right. The rail corridor from Petrie to Kippa Ring should have gone all the way into Settlement Cove and should have been done by the year 2000. What we need in SEQ is to realise that this little corner is not the be all end all of the state. Infrastructure investment is only used where and when the Government will get a return.
@@CH3353N1NJ45the government has stated the Coomera connector is designed for local traffic and doesn’t have anything to do with the Olympics. And even if that was its purpose is it wise to get all these Olympic visitors and encourage each of them to rent a car for their time here and agin use the least efficient form of transportation when they could stay at hotels close to the tram line and catch the trains to stadiums bringing thousands of people in and out of the events without traffic jams
GC does need better public transportation correct but the need for cars are never going to go away until you make public transport a viable choice for going grocery shopping, carting big sporting bags around, space for luggage in general, having more buses on the road going cross suburb rather direct to the central business areas, having more trains and trams servicing the very important and heavily used trunk routes diverting buses to do the connections, we also need to look at decentralisation of CBD’s and bring business or business hubs to the suburbs which governments could drive by having communal offices for their employees across the city, region, state and country which would also foster greater connections between departments and services (long shot of happening I know), there is a lot we could do but we need the could to become a reality to reduce the reliance on cars even in the slightest. I am a person with a disability who cannot hold a driver’s license so a less car reliant world would greatly benefit me.
Twice a year I take the car shopping instead of using delivery (weekly or twice weekly) and it makes me want to bury myself 6 feet under. How do people put up with all that time wasting? Carrying the bags here, unloading the car, loading the car, moving trolleys around, EUGH. It took me a few months but for 5 years now I’ve been doing the “shopping” in about 20 minutes and SLAM, I shut the laptop. Yeah you have to figure out which days are more reliable but is it any less mental labour in knowing all the tricks going to the aisles and looking for hidden stuff? Honestly searching the entire store in 5 seconds not 5 minutes, what is going on with humans? And you can read the back of everything in 1/4 of the time if you need to compare different brands. But sigh, I must be the dumb one because 90% do it the hard way 🤷♂️
Yea underground trains would be awesome but something I didn’t realise until doing a little research is the ground around here makes underground like that difficult. Apparently the tunnel under the Coolangatta airport runway is basically floating in the ground and uses pumps to avoid flooding or moving
The M1 is too congested and becomes dangerous when you are tired at 5 pm and have to drive home in stop-and-go traffic. You will hit your front vehicle once you get blinded by the sun.
Your graphic about most dangerous mode of transport actually shows Motorcycles as being the most dangerous. Granted if you take numbers of cars vs motorcycles then the cars will take first spot, but that graphic is still misleading.
@@cosmic_diver yes motorbikes are the most dangerous way to travel for the occupants but cars are the most dangerousness for everything around them which is a large part of what makes riding a motorbike so dangerous. You are exposed on this relatively lightweight vehicle next to these giant heavy cars and trucks. If you where to look at causes of pedestrian and animal deaths cars out kill motorbikes.
Your reading the wrong report 😂😂😂😂 you need the 2036 one that deemed Gold Coast wasn’t getting a cargo port so connection to the port of Brisbane was needed . The commera connection is only the first 3 stages after that they are continuing to the port of Brisbane via mt cotton rd and a tunnel under the reservoir
isnts the redlands getting a motorway and 4 new tunnels in brisbane. one from port of brisbane motorway to archerfield via woolloongabba, another one under the centenary highway, a brisbane western bypass, and lastly the gympie road tunnel which will feed to the second bruce highway through caboolture west
Brother read the 2036 master plan please 😂 there is 250 thousand people going to live in the norwell valley area and Gold Coast isn’t getting a port anymore so all their cargo freight needs a road that’s why the Co connector ends at the port of Brisbane once completed
Slowly but surely the situation is improving, the Coomera road needs to be built now because of decisions made 30 years ago when we were not so enlightened, not building the road now is a travesty to the people who live there now and have no alternative to get around, that alternative should have been built before they were allowed to move into the area, Existing roads cannot continue to cope with the current population living in the area so new ones need to be built, train lines need to be upgraded, tram lines need to be added and all needs to be done asap
@@dlunn196 definitely it cannot support the population but also that current population is still living with the current roads and while congested the roads will simply reach their capacity and people change their behaviour to avoid those trips. building new roads like this will simply provide short term relief changing the trip behaviour of locals ultimately increasing their dependence on cars and not providing any steps towards long term improvement. The road to improvement may be painful but it would provide better long term quality of life for those living in the area
While that may be true in some instances I disagree they shouldn’t have a station. Similar to hope island while they may be less likely to use it because of their access to other things we should still encourage they use things like the train.
what you failed to highlight is Becoming a Politician is the ONLY career you require zero training education experience to do. This is why everything the government does is over priced usually out dated even before the project begins.
@@tomcat3070 that’s why we need to share all the knowledge we have so they can have at least a chance of maybe using some of it to do slightly better. If they ever will is beyond my control but I’ve now done my part
Speak for yourself. But many people would rather not drive and if we improve the public transport people like you who want to drive will fight less traffic
Great video and agree with so much of this! It is also bizarre that the Gold Coast is so good at high density near the beach, but awful at it near the rail line. One thing worth mentioning though in your calculation about NGR trains versus cars: the Gold Coast line platforms can be upgraded to run 50% larger trains in future once Cross River Rail opens (the NGR trains are currently only 146m long but in future the CRR will enable the new Gold Coast-Sunshine Coast line to run 220m long trains once platforms & stabling are extended). So in future the Gold Coast can run NGR trains carrying about 1450 passengers. The NGR trains are also currently configured for large amounts of seating, whereas Sydney Perth and Melbourne are now using more Metro-style trains that can hold significantly more passengers than the NGRs of the same length: 146m Queensland NGR can carry 964 passengers 144m Perth C-Series can carry 1200 passengers 143m Melbourne X'Trapolis 2.0 can carry 1241 passengers So a 218m-long upgraded Gold Coast train could be configured to carry close to 1900 passengers in future.
Also worth mentioning as I watched your animation (which was amazing!): the Gold Coast trams are currently 45m long and can carry 300 passengers, but as they too become busier they can also be extended in the future (some cities around the world use coupled trams up to 90-100m long), not saying we need to go down that route but the scalability of transit just needs to be put into perspective, cars are just blown out of the water. Anyone that has seen efficient train operations at sports grounds just swallow up massive crowds like in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or any of the grounds in Europe will have seen this in action.
thanks a lot! I 100% agree. however personally especially in reference to the trams but it is important for the trains too I think frequency outweighs the capacity of each train drastically. personally I would prefer a 6 carriage train every 10 minutes rather than a 9 carriage every 20. the 30 minute frequencies currently being run is definitely not enough. but the increased capacity is important for the future. especially for things like the Olympics where we will need to get a lot of people in and out of venues all at once.
@@CGWillB Oh for sure, frequency through capacity is the better option, I was only making the point that a single Gold Coast train in future could take as many as 1500 cars' worth of passengers (at the vehicle occupancy rate of 1.2). The half-hourly frequency is a joke, even more depressing that they cut the Cross River Rail tunnels shorter than the original plan to try and save cash but they ended up having to upgrade all those stations anyway. I think instead of focusing on High Speed Rail in Sydney (and I say that as someone from Sydney that used to live in Newcastle) the Government should have first focused on giving additional funds to support a much better fast rail between Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast through Cross River Rail including express track all the way to Beenleigh and a new express track pair on the NW Transit Corridor. There is so much SE Queensland could do with better public transport funding but it keeps going to new bloody roads!
@@blackbeard2261 that’s great but the more alternatives we give everyone else the more people will be able to travel and the less traffic you will need to fight. No one is suggesting replacing existing roads but there is no need for projects like these highways that are not connecting anywhere new but are simply increasing capacity in the most inefficient way possible. If a travel corridor has proven high enough traffic to require such projects why not move that traffic to a method that can handle more people
Then you should be all for projects that get cars off roads and provides people with other travel options because it frees up the road for people who need to drive and like to drive like you.
@@CGWillBI support all good public transport alternatives to make travelling cheaper and more efficient. I also support the work being done on our roads it’s definitely necessary to make mobile work and logistics more efficient.
There is thing my generation calls a referdex to find locations, interesting how 30 years ago this "proposed duplication" was displayed back then, good to see it's going ahead, train is fun and relaxing but difficult and expensive for first and last mile - getting to the station and back
This is … why we look at other countries because they’ve solved it, instead of giving up and saying “um”. Cars should be a CHOICE not a tax you have to pay for living.
Brother read the 2036 master plan please 😂 there is 250 thousand people going to live in the norwell valley area and Gold Coast isn’t getting a port anymore so all their cargo freight needs a road that’s why the Co connector ends at the port of Brisbane once completed
the other 3 sections of the Coomera connect are not beyond the pitch stage. this current section being built is purely for local traffic. and even if you are looking at freight which also should be traveling by more efficient means that road vehicles than the M1 is still well below capacity for freight if we got more passenger traffic off that road. There is still no need to build another highway parallel to an existing one. it doesn't even connect to anything new. it is as useless as the M1 widening projects
yeh major highway infrastructure especially that far out of the main city is not for you its for trucks that supply the industry around the gold coast/ east coast of aus and yeh nar u think that people who do degrees in urban planning don't understand that trains and buses are a better alternative like really what are adding, what you trying to say. clearly a person who hasent lived even 1-2hr out of a major city.
like have u ever asked yourself why we still have road trains it's a logistics issue cus we don't have a large enough population for the space to support building the major public transport infrastructure it just wont get used then cost money when we (the people) have to fix it due to entropy that will be inevitably complained about in a similar manor or the local manufacturing base to produce the products locally so we dont need to ship it from the coast to the center also the GoldCoast started out as a almost private holiday city probs why it never had the infrastructure to begin with its not made to be an actual city beyond a tourist destination, upper class trailer park and mecca for junkies.
have you taken the goldcoast connection from Brisbane? back 10-15 yr ago it was an absolute nightmare now u can take a train and a tram and you are in the center of the goldie. What you want better public transport? go complain to your local member or council or better yet join a real political party and find out why some of this is not being done (stupid power games between the parties even the greens over actually giving a crap or getting things done why do you think it's called politics and not solutions) try to convince the average aussie yobo to take the bus over his clapped out commie or expensive merc/tesla, tell the bus and train driver to be on time so those snobs at work don't get pissed im late trying cus i tried to help the environment, start a local movement to use public transport.
love the overused generational card. All “your gen” can do is complain on the internet and say u care about nature while not only being the biggest consumers of them all due to your addiction to advertising(both consuming and producing) you're the least educated with the loudest voice that barks at every day random people why not tie yourself to the entry way of a major bank for a day you would cause a bigger environmental change why because potentially getting a criminal record for belief and or it won't be on the news or doing your part for your community or the earth is too much risk or effort for your not even “your gen” just people like you it has to be packaged into a nice clean 100% never get recyclable box that's not caged but still has chickens standing around in their own piss cus you were told everything's 10000% renewable not understanding what that means never living on a farm. Not understanding that the lithium batteries and the process for making them that are need for the renewables change are are more toxic and dangerous then the oil byproducts that precedes it(people are driving around with toxic gas bombs that cant be put out with water and the firies dont know how) and we can't even recycle them they are so chemically complex but hey full steam ahead right we will figure it out later. Like how we change form hcfs to what are forever chemicals because we needed to fix the ozone in the 90’s cus people still wanted aircon and airsole cans. peps like you never checked to see for yourself you just believed the fluffy marketing or had a solution to a problem that was your own or even consider what was needed for the solution beyond something that wasn't so obvious, regurgitated or some manufactured culture war bs.
Oh im just saying what everyone my age/gen is like saying either im the mouth piece/ main authority of my gen, you are to stupid to talk to people my age (im 27 so yeh no) and get their opinion i must give them to you or i dont have the confidence to say these are my opinions and must hide behind a diaspora of people im loosely a part of due to when i was born. How about looking at yourself and what you do for the local community,the democratic process, nature, animals or the homeless and disenfranchised before complaining about the government. How about you spend actual time in or around volunteering for the government? “man who never tastes grapes and says they are sour” lets say they are u won't know why till u taste it yourself then u might have an idea to make them better tasting.
Mate, the Coomera Connector is an intra-regional road, and is designed for local traffic, ie the northern Gold Coast. It's not a country highway. It's made for local cars, and it will be gridlocked within 5 years of opening
That’s the other thing. Improving public transport will get people off our roads meaning those who jobs require them to drive also benefit with less traffic on the road
Imagine, if you will, we put all that freight on trains :0 Just like they do in the most car dependant place ever, the USA (also other much better designed places too)
If I catch public transport from my home to work, it take 3 times as long than vs car. Reality is we live in a society built post the creation of modern mass transportation. The tram allowed urban sprawl, and this was taken to the next level after the car arrived. And now trams and trains can supply the type of transport we need with out a full redesign of the system. Last mile access needs to be improved, with express buses between hubs It would take a massive commitment to implement such an undertaking.
Definitely last mile transport is the weakest link in most of Australia's transport systems but that is definitely no reason to accept any amount of defeat to these old choices that created this situation. It would take a massive commitment but so was dedicating all available resources to pave roads to every small town. It is still possible to create change. Even if it starts small.
You misunderstand the vast size of Australia, Most people will require transport to get to stations and also once they are at their destination especially the disabled. The train system needs developing but it will always be supplementary to road transport. Even in Japan, where they have the most developed train network, people living just slightly outside the city all own cars for transport. You are obviously a university student so be careful what they teach you beware of group think, and take care when you speak for "your generation"
@@madestman101 yes we will always require some amount of cars in Australia but with most of our population within major cities and in quickly growing areas like the Gold Coast private vehicles simply won’t keep up long term. Obviously we can’t completely replace it but attempting to add private vehicle capacity to paths possible by other more efficient methods if they were improved is simply short sighted.
You’re ignoring a crucial factor. By giving people an alternative to driving we are effectively freeing up our roads for those who need a car for work such as tradies.
the benefits of good and cheap public transport drastically outweighs the need for profit. If people didn't need to spend money on owning and operating a car or tickets for the train they would spend more elsewhere. transport especially public transport doesn't need to and sometimes shouldn't turn profit. that's what the 50c trial has shown us.
@@CGWillB All good - I support a fully government owned rail infrastructure myself -admittedly I'm from NSW - but yeah - I'm saddened that roads are the focus in the regions away from high population centres. :(
Trains steal 2hrs there and 2hrs back. On average. Assuming the average is a 38-min train ride, 5kms from your home - and only 2.5kms from your work or school - on average. AND you're at the behest of a plethora (hora/horror is right) of factors any given day, the weather, stranger danger, lab-made pathogens, etc, etc, ETC, AND you have no control over any of it. Cars are the future, (and the future 'biblically speaking even') is Fleeting - but it Is available Now. ..Be the best driver you can be, for your family. & Be the best youtuber you can be... for OUR family, Brother. This misplaced urbanite-utopian video HAS raised an interesting question for me: I wonder if Koalas are meant to bathe in the ocean a couple times a year - for their health - and if our highways denying them that has caused their decline most of all. Or maybe there was a fruit tree on the beaches they are missing-out-on now; that is likely extinct.
only because the infrastructure around me makes it the only viable option a lot of the time. If I had the choice I would much rather get around by other means and not need the expenses of owning and operating a car. you can still drive as much as you want but it shouldn't be forced as the only way to get around without spending hours travelling.
I'm so glad you've made this video. I think about this constantly on my way to work here on the GC. More light needs to be shed on how great the train and tram network could really be with a few tweaks. There definitely needs to be an extension of the heavy rail from Varsity station down to Cooly. The tram probably shouldn't be extended from Burleigh to Cooly as the busses already stop at all the new proposed tram locations for stage 4. A huge increase in trams running on the existing lines (30 mins/1 hour is way too long to wait) and late night trains/trams Friday-Sunday running once per hour (12-6am). The addition of horizonal tram lines from the suburbs to the city might be smart as well and there is space to add them. Some examples include: Trams from Burleigh to Varsity Lakes station via Reedy creek Rd (in the middle lanes) which would make it easier to access a heavy rail (to cooly if added) when headed to the airport. Trams from Broadbeach to Merrimac via Nerang-Broadbeach Rd/Gooding Dr (in the middle lanes) which would create seamless access to the city and connecting to the main Tram/Train lines. And if possible/needed, a vertical tram line running from Robina to Ashmore/Griffith Uni via Robina Parkway (in the middle lanes) creating more connection and less of a need for cars in general. Just doing those few things would make a world of difference for those trying to get around and making our city more inter-connected like the city of Melbourne (which has a great tram/train system). These are just my opinions and I'm open to feedback/criticism but I feel like this could make public transport better for our spread out city and hopefully stop the people planning future projects to stop and think about what actually might help and what won't).
I absolutely agree. What annoys me the most is almost all of what you just said has been in the Gold Coasts public transport plan since the 2010s but for some reason this highway was what took priority?
@CGWillB extremely frustrating hey. And just seeing where the coomera connector actually connects up won't even ease traffic. It'll make it worse in places like Hope Island as residents of both the east and west side of the M1 will still have to use the M1 🤯 Beyond insanity imo.
I think there's MANY other problems the Gold Coast has at the same time, the way it is expanding doesn't help with traffic, sprawling suburbs along the M1 increasing traffic further instead of building upwards more often. It was really doomed from the start. The only problem I have with trains is that it brings gronks and eshays, where I live in Pimpama crime isn't as bad as places like Helensvale, Beenleigh etc. and the things they have in common are the train stations. I'd say many people don't use PT for this reason, rather sit in traffic in a car by themselves than being harassed by a dropkick 15 year old after a long day at work. They not only should focus on rail infrastructure itself, they should also look into having better security/police presence to make it more appealing to the average person, I could imagine females and the elderly have had a bad experience on a train that paints PT in a bay way to them resulting in them driving instead. Also not just for GC but worldwide, people that work in jobs where you could technically work from home should be encouraged to do so by their employers, that'd reduce traffic and the need to go anywhere significantly and we basically seen it with our own eyes during lockdown/restrictions, seems ridiculous that companies deem it mandatory to commute to the office to do the exact same thing you could do in the comfort of your own home.
Building another highway next to an exisiting one is borderline criminal
And going through precious koala habitat. 😡
There needs to be a royal commission into why this is where taxpayer money has been wasted instead of being invested into more public transport.
I live in Coomera and I can't even get on to the M1 at peak time. So I'm glad there the traffic will flow elsewhere....
They have had this road planned for years before you were even born they knew that the 90s made m1 would not be up to the task of handling the growth in this region and it’s true. Also the reason why people drive is because it’s far more convenient than public transportation for say your commute to work if you live in Pimpama or Coomera and work in surfers or Broadbeach. It literally takes double the time on public transportation. And you can say they can just build or extend the rail line but believe it or not this cost more takes more time to get approval for routes
@@DarKcS2I like your optimism. But unfortunately expanding for traffic expands traffic. It’s always been the case. It’s predicted and then proven each time. Before long, you’ll still have trouble getting on, but you’ll also have a piece of a nice big public debt.
A highspeed train straight from Brisbane to Surfers Paradise would of likely cost the same, and brought substantially more benefits. It sucks our governments cannot see past their car obsessions.
Amazing video! I really cannot fathom that QLD is just copy-pasting a motorway. Sydney sadly did the same with the M5-M8, but the only silver lining there is that at least both those motorways are mostly/entirely underground. To build an entirely new motorway through huge swathes of open space is just so mind-boggling.
Totally agree. It’s insane that they’re doing this. That’s why we got to make it known what we really think
Building beautifully commented. Much respect
Go back to india
Yeah the M5 and M8 represent two different plans for the “end” of the Hume Freeway / Motorway / Highway, and ironically the new one is basically the original plan. But what you say about the tunnels - it’s mostly right, as long as they CLOSE some surface roads. To non-locals I mean. It’s fine for the people who live there to use it! But there shouldn’t be highways carving up Sydney suburbs.
The only reason that it’s going ahead is because it’s 80% federal funding. If the state government had more skin in the game I think it would’ve been canceled
The expenditure for Coomera Connector could have been diverted to fast track stage 4 of G:Link and Gold Coast heavy rail extension to the Gold Coast airport.
Queensland's Infrastructure is about as good as a toddler playing Cities Skylines
Well that would explain the road numbering
Even the latest numbering schemes are brain dead. How many times does Queensland need to have an A3 or A5 ?
I am subscribed to so many channels that cover stuff like this, I didn't even question when this wasn't sci-fi animations.
@@mitwhitgaming7722 haha yea. Bit different to my normal stuff but just needed to share it. Nothing can change if we don’t make it known that it needs to
Hell yeah! Good to see this video!
The rail from GC to Beenleigh is pretty fantastic actually just needs more trains, but it needs a big upgrade from Beenleigh to Moorooka.
Yea I know. I use it a lot and it’s so annoying when to go from flying through all the new track down south to hitting the old Brisbane tracks and slowly swerving your way through. A lot more fun than the Highway tho
They’re working on plans to straighten and quad-track the line to Kuraby at the moment, which is the most problematic section. The whole corridor needs to be quadtracked to get the full benefits, but it’s a start
It takes 2 hours via train and light rail to get from Roma Street Station to Surfers Paradise Station, that’s double what it takes to drive. If we spent the Coomera Connector money on a new alignment for the Gold Coast rail line, you could get the total travel time down to 1 hour and would create enormous commercial and residential development.
I bet we could get it lower than an hour if we really tried hard enough
@@electro_sykes Wouldn't it be lovely if we could build Australia's first high-speed rail service? It's only 80ks (?) from Brisbane to the GC, so it's a much shorter/smaller project than other proposed HSRs, eg Syd-Melb. It would be a great showpiece and a brilliant addition to our region.
@@VanillaMacaron551 yes and also sunshine coast to brisbane. It can run elevated above both the bruce and pacific highways. whiz pas the traffic. The exsisting allignment of the gold coast line south of beenleigh is ok to be used. It should stop at helensvale because interchange with the trams. As nice as it would be to head into surfers paradise, it would be very difficult.
@@KhanPiesseONE goldcoast fast rail project plans on doing that already, basically bridges over kuraby level crossing, and quad track from kuraby to beenleigh, allows higher frequency and more more express gold coast trains.
Try driving the M1 on a Friday afternoon from Beenleigh to Helensvale, then tell me again how slow it is to get the train and light rail.
My biggest issue with the way our trains are going is the NGR trains themselves. I’m sorry but those seats are 500 times worse than the seats on the original EMU trains that were introduced back in the 70s. And yet the comfy trains are slowly dwindling in numbers.
But what do I know, I’m the guy who spends his time researching the trams that Brisbane ripped up back in 1969 to make way for more cars and highways. Thanks Clem Jones, it’s thanks to you that for many years our buses were packed to the brim only being able to carry 80 people while the trams were licensed to carry 110. At least the tram isn’t totally dead in Brisbane as the Brisbane Tramway Museum in Ferny Grove has preserved 22 of the old trams plus 2 of Brisbane’s electric trolley buses which were also killed back in the 60’s by Clem. The oldest tram in the collection is 123 years old and normally 7 of the museum’s trams would be giving rides to the public every Sunday but unfortunately the museum’s substation for the trams bit the dust back in late 2023 and since then not a single tram has moved and the council has done bugger all to help. But hopefully I’ll be back to conducting old trams and sharing my passion with the public.
Sorry for dumping tram knowledge into your comments (I’m suffering from tram withdrawal).
@@Gunzel14 yea I definitely agree about the seats. Living in the Gold Coast line it is rare to catch anything other than an NGR so until recently I didn’t know what I was missing. And yes losing the trams in Brisbane is extremely annoying and will become costly when like Sydney they eventually start needing to rebuild the network.
The upcoming Gold Coast Faster Rail project is estimated to cost 6 billion, the price of two Coomera Connectors. If the stooges in parliament actually used their brains instead of wasting taxpayer funds on their pet projects, we couldve already had it by now!
Really well done video! I’m sharing this around to people I know in the Gold Coast.
The Coomera connector is a poor use of infrastructure and land. Should be used to host more PT.
Subscribed! I hope you keep producing more content
Thanks so much!😁
Ok so I’m from Scotland currently in Gold Coast visiting, I genuinely thought when I saw the building work it would be for a train line…
This is a great video man with lots of information, keep up the good work!
Can't wait for the sunshine coast to the gold coast to be one big strip of asphalt
For accuracy, can you tweak the Blender animations? Mostly so the cars are spaced out to 3-second distances.
Of course for full accuracy you’d also want to reduce the lane count to something typical, extending the queue, and adding a percentage for irregular movement. Then for fairness, if a train is 3 minutes behind the last one (a globally standard of excellence), you’d show how far back that is.
I’d love that final comparison most of all actually! All you’d need in both cases is their optimal speed - easy enough to find the speed limits on both forms of transport.
@@whophd great ideas. I did the comparison the way I did to try and fit everything in frame as quickly as possible but for a future video that kind of accuracy might be better suited
Well put. When Qld decided it was too good to bother with reviewing its laws, and all that rigging went on...they tore up the existing trams ,,, there are still rails in coorparoo ...thing is...it was money then and it is money now...fact is our taxes paid a company to built stuff, with needlessly borrowed money...gifted land, tax exemptions and insurances...like the gateway and inner city melbourne..and a lot of things wewre different and better before you were born ...at one point Aud was 1.20 us and stable...in the 60s-70s it got to 1.58/60 i think...petrol...was 35c a litre for my parents...intewrest was like 17.7 percent opeople paid 27 000 for a new houser and land whic h was working man 5-10 yeares put it all back in...but it was the 80s...everyone was in ther army reserve and having bbqs...don't believe the hippie reinvention of it...hippies got bashed here and rightly so...throw blood on jim will they? anyhow... good expose...and with it...?I concur.
Well said!
Catching the train down to Uni and having to watch that 6 lane monstrosity be built next to it is depressing.
Would be cool if you made a video on the light rail to GC airport and all the stupid arguments people in palm Beach make to try and block it.
Really nice work! It's funny hey, don't buy avocado on toast so you could afford a mortgage but the cost of a car impacting your ability to buy a house due to the lack of other transport options - just part of life.
Drove to the southern gold coast for school holidays. Honestly once your there it's nice not to have to use your car to go to the beach and shops with little kids, if you could just take a train that got there would be great and a train should be able to go at a higher speed way more safely.
The Dutch recently held a grand prix in a small town, over 100,000 people per day went to watch the race and they got there by train, bicycle and walking or bus primarily, also parking a car and riding from some locations. It's amazing. Whereas Brisbane had a Sunday market with 7000 people attending and they had to shut it down due to causing too much congestion on roads because the only way to get there is to drive a car, hmmm. It's nice to have more freedom to choose how to get around safely.
when i think of the gold coast i think of botox, influenzas and lip fillers
I have enough money to afford a decent car thanks to savings my parents set aside for me when I was younger, but factor in paying for the expenses to run a car like fuel, rego, insurance, etc, it would dig a big hole of debt in whatever i have left.
Sacrifice road money and build maglev HSR transrapid and abandon the long distance intercity trains. Restructure country services to become regional rail services linking the HSR corridor to rural areas
I lived on the gold coast for a few months and got around on foot and by public transport, and I'd always get asked "where's your car parked?" indeed I spent most of my time waiting at traffic lights, trying to dart across busy multi-lane roads with no pedestrian crossings, walking past massive carparks, and trying to figure out where to enter shops without a vehicle.
I still think the alternative route over the river is much needed as the terrible development choices made in Coomera has created some of the worst bottlenecks in the country. Did it need to be highway standard? probably not. But at least they were thoughtful enough to include dedicated separate shared paths along that route too. All the need to do now is connect those back to the train stations and down to Southport/Surfers.
I would be rather ticked off if the future extensions of the Coomera Connector got funded though, especially before all the light rail and heavy rail extensions.
Reason why your generation is questioning why we are building more car roads- policies are made and the loudest are the baby boomers, who got used to car dependency
Nice work.I appreciate both the research you've put in and the effort you've gone to with the visuals.
@@BrisbaneChannel thank you!
I wonder what inspired Saudi Arabia to suddenly start building transit?? Or Dubai
THE TRAIN ANIMATIONS ARE SO GOOD!
Thank you. Hope my experience as an animator made the whole video a bit more interesting.
You have succeeded in making mode comparison sexy
Great video and excellent animations. We need more QLD urban planning content
This was really well made, nice work (and great content too)
As someone that lives northern Gold Coast (ormeau) i agree they need more transit infrastructure. I believe for the GC itself to improve transit infrastructure. A metro from coomera to harbour town that continues down southport burleigh road that provides additional connections at around nerang street light rail, people first stadium and pac fair among others. I also agree the light rail to extend to harbour town and further to biggera waters and the current train line to the airport (The last 2 i just mentioned should have already been done given the land has already been acquired for it). I also think from Helensvale, Nerang, Robina and Varsity lake train station exclusive bus lanes should start from the western side of the m1 to give those commuters a way to get around without needing a car to get to a station or there destination in the first place and those bus lanes extending to the metro and light rail stops. Theres more that can be done to remove cara along the highway coming to the coast from logan, Ipswich and redlands but in terms of reducing local traffic on the coast this is what needs to be done to begin with
Very well put!
There was a Rallway from Beenleigh to Tweed Heads with a spur to Southport. It was ripped up in the 60's.
look up South Coast railway line, Queensland
@@joeltyler3427 yea I’ve heard about that. So frustrating. They had it all and decided to destroy it. Same as Brisbane’s old trams
@@CGWillB I'd love to find a map of the old alignment. I understand that there are two tunnels that still exist. Update Ernest Junction tunnel is still accessible, West Burleigh tunnel still exists but was covered by later Pacific Motorway earthworks.
HOLY CRAP IS THAT FOR THOSE WHO ROCK IN THE START!?!?!?!??! (i played better)
Highways have their pros most certainly. In the situation of Brisbane to Gold Coast…? Provide alternatives that arent car focused because the inner city public transport network in both cities already exist. HSR would substantially benefit SE QLD. Furthermore the network could expand further north or even west!
@@nxthanj high speed rail would be amazing but I personally think the local connections around each city Gold Coast in particular need improvement first. The train is already decent and a high speed rail wouldn’t improve much if you still can’t get to your final destination without a car. But still 100% HSR would be awesome
Very informative
wow, I was absolutely blow away by this video! The sheer amount of production value in this makes it feel like something a 100k+ youtuber would post, but you somehow have less than 1k. And the animations, WOW. If you keep semi regularly (once ever 2 weeks or so) uploading content this good I can GARENTEE you will blow up pretty soon :D
Haha thanks a lot but I don’t know if I can keep that upload schedule. I’ve been working on this video for about 6 weeks😅. Maybe when real life stuff clears up I could do more.
@@CGWillB Even if you cant continue huge respect for making such a great video completely by yourself :)
Well done. But it's not just your generation. I've been advocating for rail in many forms, interstate, intercity, intracity, for decades. And not only for moving people. How many 1000's of huge semi-trailers are travelling on our roads everyday, destroying said roads with their weight and creating safety issues for any smaller vehicles.
@@sabummal that’s great to hear. It would definitely help a lot of people if everyone was willing to take a step back and look at the way we do things.
WOW. Seeing this quality made me think i was on a channel with way more subs, incredible stuff.
Twice i year i travel up to my grandparents up on mount tambo. Last time i was up, i thought to myself "can i get down to the coast car free?". Worst mistake of my life. The shuttle "bus" if you can call it that was cramped and only comes around five times a day. Not only that, but you have to RING the operators of the bus to reserve your seat the day before, and it's exempt from the 50c fares, so it cost a fortune.
As a result, not many people use it, and it shows with carparks at busy areas never being free and events running out of parking horribly quickly.
The Gold Coast deserves better than this.
@@goldcoast8549 thanks a lot! yea, the infrastructure hasn’t changed much since it was a small tourist town. The busy areas and events don’t have enough support from alternate forms of transport to get people there leading to what car parks can fit being expensive and full.
mate i reckon you could send this video to your transport minister, opposition leader, state premier, your local state and fed MP.
@@owenb7911 I’ve sent it to all the people I could. Didn’t get a lot of responses. Feel free to forward it to as many as you can!
I so very very agree agree with you and this video we need a electric trains and and cleaner world 🌎
why dont they make the m1 26 lanes like the houston - katy freeway in texas! just 1 more lane bro!
@@tangiers365 why didn’t I think of that!
genuinely terrible idea especially considering the absolute state of public transport in the gold coast, its already a suburban nightmare
Queensland does t know how to build railways. It’s going to take them 10yrs to build 19km spur line to Caloundra at cost of 5.5b.
yea QLD is definitely far behind but may as well start trying to fix it now
We need to do a full on Perth. Build multiple rail lines at once under a seperate authority
The rail system in Australia is under utilised. If trains were used to take trucks off the Bruce highway it would be safer. Jobs for truck drivers will go from long haul to short haul to deliver good from the train stations to homes and businesses.
@@carldurham5879 absolutely! Roads like this are inefficient for all forms of transport, passenger and freight.
Well dur of course we need Highways they are much needed. GC just a needs a more fequent train service
Make it a two lane each way road and then the third lane can be a dedicated metro line. 150 passengers per bus brings some of the benefits of mass transit without the massive cost of rail.
@@rmar127 that would definitely be a massive improvement over the current implementation. However true rail systems do pay for themselves long term a lot more than buses
Induced demand ya flamin' galahs
Well done! SEQueensland is becoming a car hellscape.
Heavy rail not only needs to be expanded to Gold Coast (and Sunshine Coast) Airport,but also directly to Surfers Paradise and Southport. The ability is there but the drive isn’t. Likewise, Brisbane needs a proper under ground metro system. Now they have the skilled people there from the construction of Cross River Rail, keep them there. Instead they’re going to build another bloody road tunnel 🤦🏻♂️
Ahem, what about we keep going to Murwillumbah and join up to the XPT! If we did this I’d even sacrifice the Solar Train, and lay dual gauge through the Gold Coast.
Kyogle makes no sense.
@@whophd What is a solar train how does that work?
Got away from the coast a couple of years ago and glad of it.
Tell Japan this badly
I've been a lifelong rail freak....YES, SEQ needs MORE Rail, but there are serious weaknesses to some of the concepts presented here. Two obvious 1) Tradies/logistics can not use public transit. 2) The road commute between BNE/GC is just part of the mix, it's what people do with their cars, when they reach those destinations....again, public transit suffers serious limitations after people have moved along the primary corridor and enter the "personal commute" element of their journey!
YES, SEQ should embrace a "TransApex of Rail" BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba, but road will always be a big part of the mix!
Totally agree. Public transport will never be 100% of the solution but improving it would definitely help and building more private vehicle infrastructure is almost certainly not steps forward
"BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba" in 45 minutes each, was in the infrastructure plans for 2042. Who knows what that's slipped now, and how much more it's slip after a change on government in October.
Well said
$3 billion could've bought a hell of a lot of buses to boost services and a possible LR extension to Harbour Town, and possibly the train line to Elanora at least.
I compiled a list of all 60 bus routes the GC has, and found that 63% of them run hourly and finish before 7pm - and in some cases they run every 2hr or not at all on weekends.
The coomera connector will only create induced demand.
Wow I didn’t know that many of the bus routes were that bad. But yea they are definitely lacking and around where I live it’s challenging to get to the tram or train stations to even start my journey with the available buses
W video
Commenting to boost engagement
@@joshuathomas6320 haha thanks a lot!
Could you look into the failed Springfield extension or the Beaudesert connection that was sabotaged?
good stuff! your video that is. not the highway.
@@sky-zc3uz thank you!
It's not being built for your generation. Not even mine or my son's generation. It's being built for the 2032 Olympics and beyond. Another thing to consider is that infrastructure planning is notoriously slow and never gets it right. The rail corridor from Petrie to Kippa Ring should have gone all the way into Settlement Cove and should have been done by the year 2000. What we need in SEQ is to realise that this little corner is not the be all end all of the state. Infrastructure investment is only used where and when the Government will get a return.
@@CH3353N1NJ45the government has stated the Coomera connector is designed for local traffic and doesn’t have anything to do with the Olympics. And even if that was its purpose is it wise to get all these Olympic visitors and encourage each of them to rent a car for their time here and agin use the least efficient form of transportation when they could stay at hotels close to the tram line and catch the trains to stadiums bringing thousands of people in and out of the events without traffic jams
Hey, I'm old and even I can see the "more roads, more cars" mating call is obsolete.
Can we have the last bit as a standalone video? Would be quick and easy to share to make the point about the efficiency of PT compared to cars.
@@GavinSeipelt it is in a post on my instagram if you wanted to check that out and share it around😁
GC does need better public transportation correct but the need for cars are never going to go away until you make public transport a viable choice for going grocery shopping, carting big sporting bags around, space for luggage in general, having more buses on the road going cross suburb rather direct to the central business areas, having more trains and trams servicing the very important and heavily used trunk routes diverting buses to do the connections, we also need to look at decentralisation of CBD’s and bring business or business hubs to the suburbs which governments could drive by having communal offices for their employees across the city, region, state and country which would also foster greater connections between departments and services (long shot of happening I know), there is a lot we could do but we need the could to become a reality to reduce the reliance on cars even in the slightest. I am a person with a disability who cannot hold a driver’s license so a less car reliant world would greatly benefit me.
Amazing points! Well said
Twice a year I take the car shopping instead of using delivery (weekly or twice weekly) and it makes me want to bury myself 6 feet under. How do people put up with all that time wasting? Carrying the bags here, unloading the car, loading the car, moving trolleys around, EUGH. It took me a few months but for 5 years now I’ve been doing the “shopping” in about 20 minutes and SLAM, I shut the laptop. Yeah you have to figure out which days are more reliable but is it any less mental labour in knowing all the tricks going to the aisles and looking for hidden stuff? Honestly searching the entire store in 5 seconds not 5 minutes, what is going on with humans? And you can read the back of everything in 1/4 of the time if you need to compare different brands.
But sigh, I must be the dumb one because 90% do it the hard way 🤷♂️
amazing, kinda wish they would extend CRR to marooka, have gc trains underground and the 3 existing tracks for Beenleigh Beaudesert and interstate.
Yea underground trains would be awesome but something I didn’t realise until doing a little research is the ground around here makes underground like that difficult. Apparently the tunnel under the Coolangatta airport runway is basically floating in the ground and uses pumps to avoid flooding or moving
WEll said, and great work on the animations 👍👍
Thank you so much😄
The M1 is too congested and becomes dangerous when you are tired at 5 pm and have to drive home in stop-and-go traffic. You will hit your front vehicle once you get blinded by the sun.
Exactly why we need to get people off it into safer and more efficient forms of transport. Bonus if they don’t need to drive to
Yeah this is pretty bleak. The future doesn't look bright with this.
maybe not but its never too late to change. or at least do our part to try!
@@CGWillB we need a new government, one that we can't vote in
Amazing video..
Thanks a lot😁
Your graphic about most dangerous mode of transport actually shows Motorcycles as being the most dangerous. Granted if you take numbers of cars vs motorcycles then the cars will take first spot, but that graphic is still misleading.
@@cosmic_diver yes motorbikes are the most dangerous way to travel for the occupants but cars are the most dangerousness for everything around them which is a large part of what makes riding a motorbike so dangerous. You are exposed on this relatively lightweight vehicle next to these giant heavy cars and trucks. If you where to look at causes of pedestrian and animal deaths cars out kill motorbikes.
The only good thing about it is that they're building a shared path
Your reading the wrong report 😂😂😂😂 you need the 2036 one that deemed Gold Coast wasn’t getting a cargo port so connection to the port of Brisbane was needed . The commera connection is only the first 3 stages after that they are continuing to the port of Brisbane via mt cotton rd and a tunnel under the reservoir
isnts the redlands getting a motorway and 4 new tunnels in brisbane. one from port of brisbane motorway to archerfield via woolloongabba, another one under the centenary highway, a brisbane western bypass, and lastly the gympie road tunnel which will feed to the second bruce highway through caboolture west
Brother read the 2036 master plan please 😂 there is 250 thousand people going to live in the norwell valley area and Gold Coast isn’t getting a port anymore so all their cargo freight needs a road that’s why the Co connector ends at the port of Brisbane once completed
Imagine, if you will, a train line to move all that freight :0
Slowly but surely the situation is improving, the Coomera road needs to be built now because of decisions made 30 years ago when we were not so enlightened, not building the road now is a travesty to the people who live there now and have no alternative to get around, that alternative should have been built before they were allowed to move into the area,
Existing roads cannot continue to cope with the current population living in the area so new ones need to be built, train lines need to be upgraded, tram lines need to be added and all needs to be done asap
@@dlunn196 definitely it cannot support the population but also that current population is still living with the current roads and while congested the roads will simply reach their capacity and people change their behaviour to avoid those trips. building new roads like this will simply provide short term relief changing the trip behaviour of locals ultimately increasing their dependence on cars and not providing any steps towards long term improvement. The road to improvement may be painful but it would provide better long term quality of life for those living in the area
Coomera is a "canal estate" for rich people. They don't need a train service. They already have 3 cars.
While that may be true in some instances I disagree they shouldn’t have a station. Similar to hope island while they may be less likely to use it because of their access to other things we should still encourage they use things like the train.
what you failed to highlight is Becoming a Politician is the ONLY career you require zero training education experience to do. This is why everything the government does is over priced usually out dated even before the project begins.
@@tomcat3070 that’s why we need to share all the knowledge we have so they can have at least a chance of maybe using some of it to do slightly better. If they ever will is beyond my control but I’ve now done my part
That’s why we need a technocracy. Put the smartest people in power
You seem to think we want to catch public transport. We don’t.
Speak for yourself. But many people would rather not drive and if we improve the public transport people like you who want to drive will fight less traffic
Great video and agree with so much of this! It is also bizarre that the Gold Coast is so good at high density near the beach, but awful at it near the rail line.
One thing worth mentioning though in your calculation about NGR trains versus cars: the Gold Coast line platforms can be upgraded to run 50% larger trains in future once Cross River Rail opens (the NGR trains are currently only 146m long but in future the CRR will enable the new Gold Coast-Sunshine Coast line to run 220m long trains once platforms & stabling are extended). So in future the Gold Coast can run NGR trains carrying about 1450 passengers. The NGR trains are also currently configured for large amounts of seating, whereas Sydney Perth and Melbourne are now using more Metro-style trains that can hold significantly more passengers than the NGRs of the same length:
146m Queensland NGR can carry 964 passengers
144m Perth C-Series can carry 1200 passengers
143m Melbourne X'Trapolis 2.0 can carry 1241 passengers
So a 218m-long upgraded Gold Coast train could be configured to carry close to 1900 passengers in future.
Also worth mentioning as I watched your animation (which was amazing!): the Gold Coast trams are currently 45m long and can carry 300 passengers, but as they too become busier they can also be extended in the future (some cities around the world use coupled trams up to 90-100m long), not saying we need to go down that route but the scalability of transit just needs to be put into perspective, cars are just blown out of the water. Anyone that has seen efficient train operations at sports grounds just swallow up massive crowds like in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or any of the grounds in Europe will have seen this in action.
thanks a lot! I 100% agree. however personally especially in reference to the trams but it is important for the trains too I think frequency outweighs the capacity of each train drastically. personally I would prefer a 6 carriage train every 10 minutes rather than a 9 carriage every 20. the 30 minute frequencies currently being run is definitely not enough. but the increased capacity is important for the future. especially for things like the Olympics where we will need to get a lot of people in and out of venues all at once.
@@CGWillB Oh for sure, frequency through capacity is the better option, I was only making the point that a single Gold Coast train in future could take as many as 1500 cars' worth of passengers (at the vehicle occupancy rate of 1.2). The half-hourly frequency is a joke, even more depressing that they cut the Cross River Rail tunnels shorter than the original plan to try and save cash but they ended up having to upgrade all those stations anyway. I think instead of focusing on High Speed Rail in Sydney (and I say that as someone from Sydney that used to live in Newcastle) the Government should have first focused on giving additional funds to support a much better fast rail between Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast through Cross River Rail including express track all the way to Beenleigh and a new express track pair on the NW Transit Corridor. There is so much SE Queensland could do with better public transport funding but it keeps going to new bloody roads!
Even if we get better public transport, people will still use their car cause it’s more convenient, which is such a shame
If the public transport was even just slightly more convenient, a lot more people would use it.
I love driving Its one of the highlights of my day driving through the hinterland on the way to work
@@blackbeard2261 that’s great but the more alternatives we give everyone else the more people will be able to travel and the less traffic you will need to fight. No one is suggesting replacing existing roads but there is no need for projects like these highways that are not connecting anywhere new but are simply increasing capacity in the most inefficient way possible. If a travel corridor has proven high enough traffic to require such projects why not move that traffic to a method that can handle more people
Then you should be all for projects that get cars off roads and provides people with other travel options because it frees up the road for people who need to drive and like to drive like you.
@@CGWillBI support all good public transport alternatives to make travelling cheaper and more efficient. I also support the work being done on our roads it’s definitely necessary to make mobile work and logistics more efficient.
It is absolutely stunning in the very early morning, especially further down the highway and over the border in Bundjalung country.
There is thing my generation calls a referdex to find locations, interesting how 30 years ago this "proposed duplication" was displayed back then, good to see it's going ahead, train is fun and relaxing but difficult and expensive for first and last mile - getting to the station and back
Exactly why it need improvement!
This is … why we look at other countries because they’ve solved it, instead of giving up and saying “um”. Cars should be a CHOICE not a tax you have to pay for living.
well said.
Brother read the 2036 master plan please 😂 there is 250 thousand people going to live in the norwell valley area and Gold Coast isn’t getting a port anymore so all their cargo freight needs a road that’s why the Co connector ends at the port of Brisbane once completed
the other 3 sections of the Coomera connect are not beyond the pitch stage. this current section being built is purely for local traffic. and even if you are looking at freight which also should be traveling by more efficient means that road vehicles than the M1 is still well below capacity for freight if we got more passenger traffic off that road. There is still no need to build another highway parallel to an existing one. it doesn't even connect to anything new. it is as useless as the M1 widening projects
bro, just use a freight railway
Fantastic video!
yeh major highway infrastructure especially that far out of the main city is not for you its for trucks that supply the industry around the gold coast/ east coast of aus and yeh nar u think that people who do degrees in urban planning don't understand that trains and buses are a better alternative like really what are adding, what you trying to say. clearly a person who hasent lived even 1-2hr out of a major city.
like have u ever asked yourself why we still have road trains it's a logistics issue cus we don't have a large enough population for the space to support building the major public transport infrastructure it just wont get used then cost money when we (the people) have to fix it due to entropy that will be inevitably complained about in a similar manor or the local manufacturing base to produce the products locally so we dont need to ship it from the coast to the center also the GoldCoast started out as a almost private holiday city probs why it never had the infrastructure to begin with its not made to be an actual city beyond a tourist destination, upper class trailer park and mecca for junkies.
have you taken the goldcoast connection from Brisbane? back 10-15 yr ago it was an absolute nightmare now u can take a train and a tram and you are in the center of the goldie. What you want better public transport? go complain to your local member or council or better yet join a real political party and find out why some of this is not being done (stupid power games between the parties even the greens over actually giving a crap or getting things done why do you think it's called politics and not solutions) try to convince the average aussie yobo to take the bus over his clapped out commie or expensive merc/tesla, tell the bus and train driver to be on time so those snobs at work don't get pissed im late trying cus i tried to help the environment, start a local movement to use public transport.
love the overused generational card. All “your gen” can do is complain on the internet and say u care about nature while not only being the biggest consumers of them all due to your addiction to advertising(both consuming and producing) you're the least educated with the loudest voice that barks at every day random people why not tie yourself to the entry way of a major bank for a day you would cause a bigger environmental change why because potentially getting a criminal record for belief and or it won't be on the news or doing your part for your community or the earth is too much risk or effort for your not even “your gen” just people like you it has to be packaged into a nice clean 100% never get recyclable box that's not caged but still has chickens standing around in their own piss cus you were told everything's 10000% renewable not understanding what that means never living on a farm. Not understanding that the lithium batteries and the process for making them that are need for the renewables change are are more toxic and dangerous then the oil byproducts that precedes it(people are driving around with toxic gas bombs that cant be put out with water and the firies dont know how) and we can't even recycle them they are so chemically complex but hey full steam ahead right we will figure it out later. Like how we change form hcfs to what are forever chemicals because we needed to fix the ozone in the 90’s cus people still wanted aircon and airsole cans. peps like you never checked to see for yourself you just believed the fluffy marketing or had a solution to a problem that was your own or even consider what was needed for the solution beyond something that wasn't so obvious, regurgitated or some manufactured culture war bs.
Oh im just saying what everyone my age/gen is like saying either im the mouth piece/ main authority of my gen, you are to stupid to talk to people my age (im 27 so yeh no) and get their opinion i must give them to you or i dont have the confidence to say these are my opinions and must hide behind a diaspora of people im loosely a part of due to when i was born. How about looking at yourself and what you do for the local community,the democratic process, nature, animals or the homeless and disenfranchised before complaining about the government. How about you spend actual time in or around volunteering for the government? “man who never tastes grapes and says they are sour” lets say they are u won't know why till u taste it yourself then u might have an idea to make them better tasting.
Mate, the Coomera Connector is an intra-regional road, and is designed for local traffic, ie the northern Gold Coast. It's not a country highway. It's made for local cars, and it will be gridlocked within 5 years of opening
That’s the other thing. Improving public transport will get people off our roads meaning those who jobs require them to drive also benefit with less traffic on the road
Imagine, if you will, we put all that freight on trains :0
Just like they do in the most car dependant place ever, the USA (also other much better designed places too)
Amazing video man.
If I catch public transport from my home to work, it take 3 times as long than vs car.
Reality is we live in a society built post the creation of modern mass transportation. The tram allowed urban sprawl, and this was taken to the next level after the car arrived.
And now trams and trains can supply the type of transport we need with out a full redesign of the system. Last mile access needs to be improved, with express buses between hubs
It would take a massive commitment to implement such an undertaking.
Definitely last mile transport is the weakest link in most of Australia's transport systems but that is definitely no reason to accept any amount of defeat to these old choices that created this situation. It would take a massive commitment but so was dedicating all available resources to pave roads to every small town. It is still possible to create change. Even if it starts small.
You misunderstand the vast size of Australia, Most people will require transport to get to stations and also once they are at their destination especially the disabled.
The train system needs developing but it will always be supplementary to road transport. Even in Japan, where they have the most developed train network, people living just slightly outside the city all own cars for transport. You are obviously a university student so be careful what they teach you beware of group think, and take care when you speak for "your generation"
@@madestman101 yes we will always require some amount of cars in Australia but with most of our population within major cities and in quickly growing areas like the Gold Coast private vehicles simply won’t keep up long term. Obviously we can’t completely replace it but attempting to add private vehicle capacity to paths possible by other more efficient methods if they were improved is simply short sighted.
You’re ignoring a crucial factor. By giving people an alternative to driving we are effectively freeing up our roads for those who need a car for work such as tradies.
It's disappointing that more koala habitat will be wiped out for this. Great video and good points. I loved the animation too.
Thank you!
Rail transport should obviously only be for profit generation - plain and simple. Everyone else -"just use cars!!!" :P
the benefits of good and cheap public transport drastically outweighs the need for profit. If people didn't need to spend money on owning and operating a car or tickets for the train they would spend more elsewhere. transport especially public transport doesn't need to and sometimes shouldn't turn profit. that's what the 50c trial has shown us.
@@CGWillB Couldn't agree more - I was being sracastic.
@@MarkHyde oh sorry. There’s a lot of people here not being so it’s a bit hard to tell😂
@@CGWillB All good - I support a fully government owned rail infrastructure myself -admittedly I'm from NSW - but yeah - I'm saddened that roads are the focus in the regions away from high population centres. :(
Don’t you dare suggest that cars have to pay their own way. CAR SOCIALISM, we must all PAY FOR CARS AND ROADS WITH TAXES on everybody /sarcasm
Trains steal 2hrs there and 2hrs back. On average. Assuming the average is a 38-min train ride, 5kms from your home - and only 2.5kms from your work or school - on average. AND you're at the behest of a plethora (hora/horror is right) of factors any given day, the weather, stranger danger, lab-made pathogens, etc, etc, ETC, AND you have no control over any of it. Cars are the future, (and the future 'biblically speaking even') is Fleeting - but it Is available Now.
..Be the best driver you can be, for your family.
& Be the best youtuber you can be... for OUR family, Brother.
This misplaced urbanite-utopian video HAS raised an interesting question for me:
I wonder if Koalas are meant to bathe in the ocean a couple times a year - for their health - and if our highways denying them that has caused their decline most of all. Or maybe there was a fruit tree on the beaches they are missing-out-on now; that is likely extinct.
he complains but he has a car honestly
only because the infrastructure around me makes it the only viable option a lot of the time. If I had the choice I would much rather get around by other means and not need the expenses of owning and operating a car. you can still drive as much as you want but it shouldn't be forced as the only way to get around without spending hours travelling.
maybe because cars are the only viable option to get around and you need one to survive. you can own something and also critique it.
Not very bright are you momo dumb dumb.
I'm so glad you've made this video. I think about this constantly on my way to work here on the GC.
More light needs to be shed on how great the train and tram network could really be with a few tweaks.
There definitely needs to be an extension of the heavy rail from Varsity station down to Cooly.
The tram probably shouldn't be extended from Burleigh to Cooly as the busses already stop at all the new proposed tram locations for stage 4.
A huge increase in trams running on the existing lines (30 mins/1 hour is way too long to wait) and late night trains/trams Friday-Sunday running once per hour (12-6am).
The addition of horizonal tram lines from the suburbs to the city might be smart as well and there is space to add them.
Some examples include:
Trams from Burleigh to Varsity Lakes station via Reedy creek Rd (in the middle lanes) which would make it easier to access a heavy rail (to cooly if added) when headed to the airport.
Trams from Broadbeach to Merrimac via Nerang-Broadbeach Rd/Gooding Dr (in the middle lanes) which would create seamless access to the city and connecting to the main Tram/Train lines.
And if possible/needed, a vertical tram line running from Robina to Ashmore/Griffith Uni via Robina Parkway (in the middle lanes) creating more connection and less of a need for cars in general.
Just doing those few things would make a world of difference for those trying to get around and making our city more inter-connected like the city of Melbourne (which has a great tram/train system).
These are just my opinions and I'm open to feedback/criticism but I feel like this could make public transport better for our spread out city and hopefully stop the people planning future projects to stop and think about what actually might help and what won't).
I absolutely agree. What annoys me the most is almost all of what you just said has been in the Gold Coasts public transport plan since the 2010s but for some reason this highway was what took priority?
@CGWillB extremely frustrating hey. And just seeing where the coomera connector actually connects up won't even ease traffic. It'll make it worse in places like Hope Island as residents of both the east and west side of the M1 will still have to use the M1 🤯 Beyond insanity imo.
I think there's MANY other problems the Gold Coast has at the same time, the way it is expanding doesn't help with traffic, sprawling suburbs along the M1 increasing traffic further instead of building upwards more often. It was really doomed from the start.
The only problem I have with trains is that it brings gronks and eshays, where I live in Pimpama crime isn't as bad as places like Helensvale, Beenleigh etc. and the things they have in common are the train stations. I'd say many people don't use PT for this reason, rather sit in traffic in a car by themselves than being harassed by a dropkick 15 year old after a long day at work. They not only should focus on rail infrastructure itself, they should also look into having better security/police presence to make it more appealing to the average person, I could imagine females and the elderly have had a bad experience on a train that paints PT in a bay way to them resulting in them driving instead.
Also not just for GC but worldwide, people that work in jobs where you could technically work from home should be encouraged to do so by their employers, that'd reduce traffic and the need to go anywhere significantly and we basically seen it with our own eyes during lockdown/restrictions, seems ridiculous that companies deem it mandatory to commute to the office to do the exact same thing you could do in the comfort of your own home.