7:30 - Fun fact, I actually modeled the Scania L94UB bus shown here! 😊 I absolutely agree with this video! It’s disappointing to see QLD doubling down on car-centric infrastructure, which ultimately traps us in the most inefficient and unsustainable form of transport. This car dependency creates more traffic, pollution, and limits mobility for those who don’t drive. which ultimately traps us in the most inefficient and unsustainable form of transport We need to speak up and advocate for better alternatives-like reliable public transport, biking infrastructure, and walkable cities. This car-dependent future isn't the one we want or need!
That’s awesome. Thanks for your work! Sorry I didn’t initially credit you. I thought I did for all the assets I used but clearly I only sources the NGR model.
They have had this road planned for years before you were even born they knew that the 90s made m1 would not be up to the task of handling the growth in this region and it’s true. Also the reason why people drive is because it’s far more convenient than public transportation for say your commute to work if you live in Pimpama or Coomera and work in surfers or Broadbeach. It literally takes double the time on public transportation. And you can say they can just build or extend the rail line but believe it or not this cost more takes more time to get approval for routes
@@DarKcS2I like your optimism. But unfortunately expanding for traffic expands traffic. It’s always been the case. It’s predicted and then proven each time. Before long, you’ll still have trouble getting on, but you’ll also have a piece of a nice big public debt.
A highspeed train straight from Brisbane to Surfers Paradise would of likely cost the same, and brought substantially more benefits. It sucks our governments cannot see past their car obsessions.
The only reason that it’s going ahead is because it’s 80% federal funding. If the state government had more skin in the game I think it would’ve been canceled
It takes 2 hours via train and light rail to get from Roma Street Station to Surfers Paradise Station, that’s double what it takes to drive. If we spent the Coomera Connector money on a new alignment for the Gold Coast rail line, you could get the total travel time down to 1 hour and would create enormous commercial and residential development.
@@electro_sykes Wouldn't it be lovely if we could build Australia's first high-speed rail service? It's only 80ks (?) from Brisbane to the GC, so it's a much shorter/smaller project than other proposed HSRs, eg Syd-Melb. It would be a great showpiece and a brilliant addition to our region.
@@VanillaMacaron551 yes and also sunshine coast to brisbane. It can run elevated above both the bruce and pacific highways. whiz pas the traffic. The exsisting allignment of the gold coast line south of beenleigh is ok to be used. It should stop at helensvale because interchange with the trams. As nice as it would be to head into surfers paradise, it would be very difficult.
@@KhanPiesseONE goldcoast fast rail project plans on doing that already, basically bridges over kuraby level crossing, and quad track from kuraby to beenleigh, allows higher frequency and more more express gold coast trains.
Amazing video! I really cannot fathom that QLD is just copy-pasting a motorway. Sydney sadly did the same with the M5-M8, but the only silver lining there is that at least both those motorways are mostly/entirely underground. To build an entirely new motorway through huge swathes of open space is just so mind-boggling.
Yeah the M5 and M8 represent two different plans for the “end” of the Hume Freeway / Motorway / Highway, and ironically the new one is basically the original plan. But what you say about the tunnels - it’s mostly right, as long as they CLOSE some surface roads. To non-locals I mean. It’s fine for the people who live there to use it! But there shouldn’t be highways carving up Sydney suburbs.
The expenditure for Coomera Connector could have been diverted to fast track stage 4 of G:Link and Gold Coast heavy rail extension to the Gold Coast airport.
@@mitwhitgaming7722 haha yea. Bit different to my normal stuff but just needed to share it. Nothing can change if we don’t make it known that it needs to
Hell yeah! Good to see this video! The rail from GC to Beenleigh is pretty fantastic actually just needs more trains, but it needs a big upgrade from Beenleigh to Moorooka.
Yea I know. I use it a lot and it’s so annoying when to go from flying through all the new track down south to hitting the old Brisbane tracks and slowly swerving your way through. A lot more fun than the Highway tho
They’re working on plans to straighten and quad-track the line to Kuraby at the moment, which is the most problematic section. The whole corridor needs to be quadtracked to get the full benefits, but it’s a start
@@richardbaker2701 Thank you! It always annoyed my how little attention the Gold Coast was given with this kind of stuff so I thought I would do something to at least try and change that
The major stuff up was when they opened the new Gold Coast railway line in 1996. Everyone wants to go to the beach but the new railway line went nowhere near it. And it still doesn’t.
Ok so I’m from Scotland currently in Gold Coast visiting, I genuinely thought when I saw the building work it would be for a train line… This is a great video man with lots of information, keep up the good work!
Thank you! I wish it was for the train line. I'm glad you found it interesting. I think even a lot of people living here don't know enough about what's going on but I'm glad you found some interest in it!
Sick video, I totally agree. The government are spending billions on a waste and dangerous project and forgetting about all the beneficial train lines.
yea. The list of recently built or upgraded roads and highways is massive but QLD hasn't built any new heavy rail since the airport line in 2001 which was built by a private company and the government doesn't get full control of it until 2036. obviously there is also the Gold Coast Tram but as great as that system is it still cant compete with true heavy rail in speed and capacity.
My biggest issue with the way our trains are going is the NGR trains themselves. I’m sorry but those seats are 500 times worse than the seats on the original EMU trains that were introduced back in the 70s. And yet the comfy trains are slowly dwindling in numbers. But what do I know, I’m the guy who spends his time researching the trams that Brisbane ripped up back in 1969 to make way for more cars and highways. Thanks Clem Jones, it’s thanks to you that for many years our buses were packed to the brim only being able to carry 80 people while the trams were licensed to carry 110. At least the tram isn’t totally dead in Brisbane as the Brisbane Tramway Museum in Ferny Grove has preserved 22 of the old trams plus 2 of Brisbane’s electric trolley buses which were also killed back in the 60’s by Clem. The oldest tram in the collection is 123 years old and normally 7 of the museum’s trams would be giving rides to the public every Sunday but unfortunately the museum’s substation for the trams bit the dust back in late 2023 and since then not a single tram has moved and the council has done bugger all to help. But hopefully I’ll be back to conducting old trams and sharing my passion with the public. Sorry for dumping tram knowledge into your comments (I’m suffering from tram withdrawal).
@@Gunzel14 yea I definitely agree about the seats. Living in the Gold Coast line it is rare to catch anything other than an NGR so until recently I didn’t know what I was missing. And yes losing the trams in Brisbane is extremely annoying and will become costly when like Sydney they eventually start needing to rebuild the network.
I was 6 years old when my family moved from Melbourne to Brisbane. Trams from Wynnum to the inner city had just been decommissioned. Tram tracks were slowly being ripped up for new roads. Only way to get from Wynnum to the inner city was then a multiple bus transfer, travel by car or the very occasional train to the city.
@@geradkavanagh8240 I’m afraid the trams never ran to Wynnum. The closest the got to Wynnum was the line to Belmont (the suburb of Belmont has since shrunk so the line now terminates in Carina). Sorry if this comes across as me being rude.
Really well done video! I’m sharing this around to people I know in the Gold Coast. The Coomera connector is a poor use of infrastructure and land. Should be used to host more PT. Subscribed! I hope you keep producing more content
I have enough money to afford a decent car thanks to savings my parents set aside for me when I was younger, but factor in paying for the expenses to run a car like fuel, rego, insurance, etc, it would dig a big hole of debt in whatever i have left.
Heavy rail not only needs to be expanded to Gold Coast (and Sunshine Coast) Airport,but also directly to Surfers Paradise and Southport. The ability is there but the drive isn’t. Likewise, Brisbane needs a proper under ground metro system. Now they have the skilled people there from the construction of Cross River Rail, keep them there. Instead they’re going to build another bloody road tunnel 🤦🏻♂️
Ahem, what about we keep going to Murwillumbah and join up to the XPT! If we did this I’d even sacrifice the Solar Train, and lay dual gauge through the Gold Coast. Kyogle makes no sense.
I started to use public transport lately, it was almost the same time as I was using driving my car But I have to add the waiting time between buses, tram and train Plus also the limitations of not allowing bicycles in tram, I can understand the bus(because of space) but tram??? Other problem that I’ve found is the opening hours of the train, tram and buses If you have a very early job start at 4am or 5am, sorry but your options are: Drive your car, or Find another way to get there But not with public transport
@@clcanturin yea I definitely agree frequencies is one of the biggest weaknesses of QLDs public transport. Also definitely agree about the starting hours. I always hate having that moment of realisation if I’m in Brisbane and don’t get to the train before 12 I simply can’t get home
I'm 81 years old - definitely not your young group - but I agree with what you are pushing, 100%. Don't be overcome or frustrated with the thusness of governments and planners - they just went to the wrong universities and are unable to adjust their ability to reason. You are (all of you) right-thinking people who mustn't lessen the force of your thinking by compromising to accomodate wrong-thinkers. Congratulations.
As someone that lives northern Gold Coast (ormeau) i agree they need more transit infrastructure. I believe for the GC itself to improve transit infrastructure. A metro from coomera to harbour town that continues down southport burleigh road that provides additional connections at around nerang street light rail, people first stadium and pac fair among others. I also agree the light rail to extend to harbour town and further to biggera waters and the current train line to the airport (The last 2 i just mentioned should have already been done given the land has already been acquired for it). I also think from Helensvale, Nerang, Robina and Varsity lake train station exclusive bus lanes should start from the western side of the m1 to give those commuters a way to get around without needing a car to get to a station or there destination in the first place and those bus lanes extending to the metro and light rail stops. Theres more that can be done to remove cara along the highway coming to the coast from logan, Ipswich and redlands but in terms of reducing local traffic on the coast this is what needs to be done to begin with
@@heyjaydreamerr when they can afford to sit in their air conditioned car burning fuel all day it makes sense. But ultimately they are supposed to be elected to represent what we want so hopefully 50c fares can keep the momentum it needs to bring more improvements.
I lived on the gold coast for a few months and got around on foot and by public transport, and I'd always get asked "where's your car parked?" indeed I spent most of my time waiting at traffic lights, trying to dart across busy multi-lane roads with no pedestrian crossings, walking past massive carparks, and trying to figure out where to enter shops without a vehicle.
You make some very good points in your video. Here's a few of my thoughts: *Roads make money.* They make money through road taxes, petrol taxes, traffic fines, GST on everything to do with your car, and roadside advertising. *Public Transport* in the form of buses and trams is often slow. These are run slowly, often having an average speed along their route/line of between 20 and 35 kmh. Buses aren't serving areas where they're needed. Trams are seen as "environmentally friendly" as they don't physically emit any form of emissions. The problem is that they still require overhead wires and poles, and a high voltage of electricity. I'm all for trams as they are a great people mover. You can do so much more in terms of people movement with a tram than what you can with a bus! *The Gold Coast Railway." This is nearly 30 years old! In its time it's been extended from Helensvale to Nerang, then to Robina, and now to Varsity Lakes. The opportunity to take the line to Southport, like the former South Coast line, has now been lost. The line should go to Coolangatta Airport, Tweed Heads, and Murwillumbah. I also think Queensland Rail should have done a deal with the NSW Government years ago and secured the rail corridor to Casino. Then there would be a regular train service from North Coast NSW to Brisbane via the Gold Coast. I can't see too much good happening from the new Queensland Premier (yet the ALP were worse, from what I know), but the existing Gold Coast line should not only see 5 trains an hour (one every 12 minutes) but where possible, the line expanded to 4 tracks, as is being done in parts of Brisbane's southern suburbs. Freight traffic should also be considered in order to lessen the amount of big trucks on the roads.
I definitely agree with a lot of your point too however in most scenarios cars still cost more than they make and improved public transport and in particular good walkable environments would actually benefit the government more from a tax revenue perspective. Also a lot of limits on the speed of public transport is due to shared areas with cars where they are brought down to the same speed as those cars. in dedicated corridors like heavy rail go to 140km/h on the gold coast line and even the Gold Coast Tram along smith street often has no problem traveling faster than cars. I know that the trams are limited to 70km/h while smith street is 80 but due to traffic it still is not infrequent for me to see the tram outrunning cars on the road from both the perspective on the tram and from the road. And yes the gold coast line as it exists today has long missed many opportunities but this video was trying to use it as a comparison because it exist exactly parallel to the newly built Coomera Connector which is literally being built on rail corridor land removing the option for possible duplication to 4 tracks or the possible very distant rumours of high speed rail tracks using that space are all now impossible because people keep making excuses to get more people sitting in traffic making car companies not the government money instead of fixing any problems
I'm so glad you've made this video. I think about this constantly on my way to work here on the GC. More light needs to be shed on how great the train and tram network could really be with a few tweaks. There definitely needs to be an extension of the heavy rail from Varsity station down to Cooly. The tram probably shouldn't be extended from Burleigh to Cooly as the busses already stop at all the new proposed tram locations for stage 4. A huge increase in trams running on the existing lines (30 mins/1 hour is way too long to wait) and late night trains/trams Friday-Sunday running once per hour (12-6am). The addition of horizonal tram lines from the suburbs to the city might be smart as well and there is space to add them. Some examples include: Trams from Burleigh to Varsity Lakes station via Reedy creek Rd (in the middle lanes) which would make it easier to access a heavy rail (to cooly if added) when headed to the airport. Trams from Broadbeach to Merrimac via Nerang-Broadbeach Rd/Gooding Dr (in the middle lanes) which would create seamless access to the city and connecting to the main Tram/Train lines. And if possible/needed, a vertical tram line running from Robina to Ashmore/Griffith Uni via Robina Parkway (in the middle lanes) creating more connection and less of a need for cars in general. Just doing those few things would make a world of difference for those trying to get around and making our city more inter-connected like the city of Melbourne (which has a great tram/train system). These are just my opinions and I'm open to feedback/criticism but I feel like this could make public transport better for our spread out city and hopefully stop the people planning future projects to stop and think about what actually might help and what won't).
I absolutely agree. What annoys me the most is almost all of what you just said has been in the Gold Coasts public transport plan since the 2010s but for some reason this highway was what took priority?
@CGWillB extremely frustrating hey. And just seeing where the coomera connector actually connects up won't even ease traffic. It'll make it worse in places like Hope Island as residents of both the east and west side of the M1 will still have to use the M1 🤯 Beyond insanity imo.
I still think the alternative route over the river is much needed as the terrible development choices made in Coomera has created some of the worst bottlenecks in the country. Did it need to be highway standard? probably not. But at least they were thoughtful enough to include dedicated separate shared paths along that route too. All the need to do now is connect those back to the train stations and down to Southport/Surfers. I would be rather ticked off if the future extensions of the Coomera Connector got funded though, especially before all the light rail and heavy rail extensions.
wow, I was absolutely blow away by this video! The sheer amount of production value in this makes it feel like something a 100k+ youtuber would post, but you somehow have less than 1k. And the animations, WOW. If you keep semi regularly (once ever 2 weeks or so) uploading content this good I can GARENTEE you will blow up pretty soon :D
Haha thanks a lot but I don’t know if I can keep that upload schedule. I’ve been working on this video for about 6 weeks😅. Maybe when real life stuff clears up I could do more.
The same happened in Glasgow when the M74 was extended to reduce load on the M8. Now there are two motorways of nose to tail traffic jams every day, instead of one. No decent public or active transport alternatives.
its always a shame because it can't be a lack of knowledge that they choose to build these projects. The only thing I can think of is the people making these choices cant fathom that some people would rather leave their cars aircon if it means getting somewhere more efficiently.
Really nice work! It's funny hey, don't buy avocado on toast so you could afford a mortgage but the cost of a car impacting your ability to buy a house due to the lack of other transport options - just part of life. Drove to the southern gold coast for school holidays. Honestly once your there it's nice not to have to use your car to go to the beach and shops with little kids, if you could just take a train that got there would be great and a train should be able to go at a higher speed way more safely. The Dutch recently held a grand prix in a small town, over 100,000 people per day went to watch the race and they got there by train, bicycle and walking or bus primarily, also parking a car and riding from some locations. It's amazing. Whereas Brisbane had a Sunday market with 7000 people attending and they had to shut it down due to causing too much congestion on roads because the only way to get there is to drive a car, hmmm. It's nice to have more freedom to choose how to get around safely.
$3 billion could've bought a hell of a lot of buses to boost services and a possible LR extension to Harbour Town, and possibly the train line to Elanora at least. I compiled a list of all 60 bus routes the GC has, and found that 63% of them run hourly and finish before 7pm - and in some cases they run every 2hr or not at all on weekends. The coomera connector will only create induced demand.
Wow I didn’t know that many of the bus routes were that bad. But yea they are definitely lacking and around where I live it’s challenging to get to the tram or train stations to even start my journey with the available buses
The saddest part is the Gold Coast had two rail lines . One to South Port (terminated near the railway hotel that's still there) and the other to Tweed Heads (terminated near Griffith Street - sort of near the boles club). Sadly the Nationals had both ripped up at the end of steam/wooden carriages operation they as didn't want to pay to upgrade the line or buy more DH locos (the only modern loco they had that was light enough but they were all deployed in north Queensland) & metal body carriages that were light enough to run on it. Both rail corridors unfortunately now also have houses in parts - most frustratingly the tunnel at Burleigh couldn't be re-used for the trams because they let people build on either side of it. Unfortunately the ripping up of lines wasn't an isolated incident - the Nationals doing there best Margaret Thatcher impersonation also ripped up lines like the Mt Morgan, Emu Park and Yeppoon - along with I'm sure many others that completely destroyed future prospects for communities.
@@jouebien I had heard of the Southport line but not the tweed heads one before. It is always frustrating seeing what we are missing out on because “cars are the future”. I actually have a very funny story from recently where a friend missed a train and in the half an hour I was waiting for them I could have driven one way to their location or what I did was wait for 10 minutes on the platform catch the northbound train and wait for another 10 minutes and catch the train back all within the 30 minutes it would have taken me to drive one way. They really downgraded everything when they replace rail with road.
I've been a lifelong rail freak....YES, SEQ needs MORE Rail, but there are serious weaknesses to some of the concepts presented here. Two obvious 1) Tradies/logistics can not use public transit. 2) The road commute between BNE/GC is just part of the mix, it's what people do with their cars, when they reach those destinations....again, public transit suffers serious limitations after people have moved along the primary corridor and enter the "personal commute" element of their journey! YES, SEQ should embrace a "TransApex of Rail" BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba, but road will always be a big part of the mix!
Totally agree. Public transport will never be 100% of the solution but improving it would definitely help and building more private vehicle infrastructure is almost certainly not steps forward
"BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba" in 45 minutes each, was in the infrastructure plans for 2042. Who knows what that's slipped now, and how much more it's slip after a change on government in October.
Great video and agree with so much of this! It is also bizarre that the Gold Coast is so good at high density near the beach, but awful at it near the rail line. One thing worth mentioning though in your calculation about NGR trains versus cars: the Gold Coast line platforms can be upgraded to run 50% larger trains in future once Cross River Rail opens (the NGR trains are currently only 146m long but in future the CRR will enable the new Gold Coast-Sunshine Coast line to run 220m long trains once platforms & stabling are extended). So in future the Gold Coast can run NGR trains carrying about 1450 passengers. The NGR trains are also currently configured for large amounts of seating, whereas Sydney Perth and Melbourne are now using more Metro-style trains that can hold significantly more passengers than the NGRs of the same length: 146m Queensland NGR can carry 964 passengers 144m Perth C-Series can carry 1200 passengers 143m Melbourne X'Trapolis 2.0 can carry 1241 passengers So a 218m-long upgraded Gold Coast train could be configured to carry close to 1900 passengers in future.
Also worth mentioning as I watched your animation (which was amazing!): the Gold Coast trams are currently 45m long and can carry 300 passengers, but as they too become busier they can also be extended in the future (some cities around the world use coupled trams up to 90-100m long), not saying we need to go down that route but the scalability of transit just needs to be put into perspective, cars are just blown out of the water. Anyone that has seen efficient train operations at sports grounds just swallow up massive crowds like in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or any of the grounds in Europe will have seen this in action.
thanks a lot! I 100% agree. however personally especially in reference to the trams but it is important for the trains too I think frequency outweighs the capacity of each train drastically. personally I would prefer a 6 carriage train every 10 minutes rather than a 9 carriage every 20. the 30 minute frequencies currently being run is definitely not enough. but the increased capacity is important for the future. especially for things like the Olympics where we will need to get a lot of people in and out of venues all at once.
@@CGWillB Oh for sure, frequency through capacity is the better option, I was only making the point that a single Gold Coast train in future could take as many as 1500 cars' worth of passengers (at the vehicle occupancy rate of 1.2). The half-hourly frequency is a joke, even more depressing that they cut the Cross River Rail tunnels shorter than the original plan to try and save cash but they ended up having to upgrade all those stations anyway. I think instead of focusing on High Speed Rail in Sydney (and I say that as someone from Sydney that used to live in Newcastle) the Government should have first focused on giving additional funds to support a much better fast rail between Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast through Cross River Rail including express track all the way to Beenleigh and a new express track pair on the NW Transit Corridor. There is so much SE Queensland could do with better public transport funding but it keeps going to new bloody roads!
Well said! Catching the train down to Uni and having to watch that 6 lane monstrosity be built next to it is depressing. Would be cool if you made a video on the light rail to GC airport and all the stupid arguments people in palm Beach make to try and block it.
Make it a two lane each way road and then the third lane can be a dedicated metro line. 150 passengers per bus brings some of the benefits of mass transit without the massive cost of rail.
@@rmar127 that would definitely be a massive improvement over the current implementation. However true rail systems do pay for themselves long term a lot more than buses
Slowly but surely the situation is improving, the Coomera road needs to be built now because of decisions made 30 years ago when we were not so enlightened, not building the road now is a travesty to the people who live there now and have no alternative to get around, that alternative should have been built before they were allowed to move into the area, Existing roads cannot continue to cope with the current population living in the area so new ones need to be built, train lines need to be upgraded, tram lines need to be added and all needs to be done asap
@@dlunn196 definitely it cannot support the population but also that current population is still living with the current roads and while congested the roads will simply reach their capacity and people change their behaviour to avoid those trips. building new roads like this will simply provide short term relief changing the trip behaviour of locals ultimately increasing their dependence on cars and not providing any steps towards long term improvement. The road to improvement may be painful but it would provide better long term quality of life for those living in the area
For accuracy, can you tweak the Blender animations? Mostly so the cars are spaced out to 3-second distances. Of course for full accuracy you’d also want to reduce the lane count to something typical, extending the queue, and adding a percentage for irregular movement. Then for fairness, if a train is 3 minutes behind the last one (a globally standard of excellence), you’d show how far back that is. I’d love that final comparison most of all actually! All you’d need in both cases is their optimal speed - easy enough to find the speed limits on both forms of transport.
@@whophd great ideas. I did the comparison the way I did to try and fit everything in frame as quickly as possible but for a future video that kind of accuracy might be better suited
The upcoming Gold Coast Faster Rail project is estimated to cost 6 billion, the price of two Coomera Connectors. If the stooges in parliament actually used their brains instead of wasting taxpayer funds on their pet projects, we couldve already had it by now!
WOW. Seeing this quality made me think i was on a channel with way more subs, incredible stuff. Twice i year i travel up to my grandparents up on mount tambo. Last time i was up, i thought to myself "can i get down to the coast car free?". Worst mistake of my life. The shuttle "bus" if you can call it that was cramped and only comes around five times a day. Not only that, but you have to RING the operators of the bus to reserve your seat the day before, and it's exempt from the 50c fares, so it cost a fortune. As a result, not many people use it, and it shows with carparks at busy areas never being free and events running out of parking horribly quickly. The Gold Coast deserves better than this.
@@goldcoast8549 thanks a lot! yea, the infrastructure hasn’t changed much since it was a small tourist town. The busy areas and events don’t have enough support from alternate forms of transport to get people there leading to what car parks can fit being expensive and full.
The rail system in Australia is under utilised. If trains were used to take trucks off the Bruce highway it would be safer. Jobs for truck drivers will go from long haul to short haul to deliver good from the train stations to homes and businesses.
@@CGWillB I'd love to find a map of the old alignment. I understand that there are two tunnels that still exist. Update Ernest Junction tunnel is still accessible, West Burleigh tunnel still exists but was covered by later Pacific Motorway earthworks.
Yea underground trains would be awesome but something I didn’t realise until doing a little research is the ground around here makes underground like that difficult. Apparently the tunnel under the Coolangatta airport runway is basically floating in the ground and uses pumps to avoid flooding or moving
GC does need better public transportation correct but the need for cars are never going to go away until you make public transport a viable choice for going grocery shopping, carting big sporting bags around, space for luggage in general, having more buses on the road going cross suburb rather direct to the central business areas, having more trains and trams servicing the very important and heavily used trunk routes diverting buses to do the connections, we also need to look at decentralisation of CBD’s and bring business or business hubs to the suburbs which governments could drive by having communal offices for their employees across the city, region, state and country which would also foster greater connections between departments and services (long shot of happening I know), there is a lot we could do but we need the could to become a reality to reduce the reliance on cars even in the slightest. I am a person with a disability who cannot hold a driver’s license so a less car reliant world would greatly benefit me.
Twice a year I take the car shopping instead of using delivery (weekly or twice weekly) and it makes me want to bury myself 6 feet under. How do people put up with all that time wasting? Carrying the bags here, unloading the car, loading the car, moving trolleys around, EUGH. It took me a few months but for 5 years now I’ve been doing the “shopping” in about 20 minutes and SLAM, I shut the laptop. Yeah you have to figure out which days are more reliable but is it any less mental labour in knowing all the tricks going to the aisles and looking for hidden stuff? Honestly searching the entire store in 5 seconds not 5 minutes, what is going on with humans? And you can read the back of everything in 1/4 of the time if you need to compare different brands. But sigh, I must be the dumb one because 90% do it the hard way 🤷♂️
That channel blew my mind. Its made me want to move to inner city Melbourne and just walk and use public transport everywhere. Gold Coast and Brisbane sucks in that regard and is doomed.
@@Ryan-qx4wh Ye totally agreed. It reminds me of him and another transit channel saying: "why does public transports have to make money when roads don't make any money and they spend just as much?"
@@CGWillB Ye totally agreed. It reminds me of him and another transit channel saying: "why does public transports have to make money when roads don't make any money and they spend just as much?"
The M1 is too congested and becomes dangerous when you are tired at 5 pm and have to drive home in stop-and-go traffic. You will hit your front vehicle once you get blinded by the sun.
Well put. When Qld decided it was too good to bother with reviewing its laws, and all that rigging went on...they tore up the existing trams ,,, there are still rails in coorparoo ...thing is...it was money then and it is money now...fact is our taxes paid a company to built stuff, with needlessly borrowed money...gifted land, tax exemptions and insurances...like the gateway and inner city melbourne..and a lot of things wewre different and better before you were born ...at one point Aud was 1.20 us and stable...in the 60s-70s it got to 1.58/60 i think...petrol...was 35c a litre for my parents...intewrest was like 17.7 percent opeople paid 27 000 for a new houser and land whic h was working man 5-10 yeares put it all back in...but it was the 80s...everyone was in ther army reserve and having bbqs...don't believe the hippie reinvention of it...hippies got bashed here and rightly so...throw blood on jim will they? anyhow... good expose...and with it...?I concur.
Sacrifice road money and build maglev HSR transrapid and abandon the long distance intercity trains. Restructure country services to become regional rail services linking the HSR corridor to rural areas
There is thing my generation calls a referdex to find locations, interesting how 30 years ago this "proposed duplication" was displayed back then, good to see it's going ahead, train is fun and relaxing but difficult and expensive for first and last mile - getting to the station and back
This is … why we look at other countries because they’ve solved it, instead of giving up and saying “um”. Cars should be a CHOICE not a tax you have to pay for living.
Highways have their pros most certainly. In the situation of Brisbane to Gold Coast…? Provide alternatives that arent car focused because the inner city public transport network in both cities already exist. HSR would substantially benefit SE QLD. Furthermore the network could expand further north or even west!
@@nxthanj high speed rail would be amazing but I personally think the local connections around each city Gold Coast in particular need improvement first. The train is already decent and a high speed rail wouldn’t improve much if you still can’t get to your final destination without a car. But still 100% HSR would be awesome
It's not being built for your generation. Not even mine or my son's generation. It's being built for the 2032 Olympics and beyond. Another thing to consider is that infrastructure planning is notoriously slow and never gets it right. The rail corridor from Petrie to Kippa Ring should have gone all the way into Settlement Cove and should have been done by the year 2000. What we need in SEQ is to realise that this little corner is not the be all end all of the state. Infrastructure investment is only used where and when the Government will get a return.
@@CH3353N1NJ45the government has stated the Coomera connector is designed for local traffic and doesn’t have anything to do with the Olympics. And even if that was its purpose is it wise to get all these Olympic visitors and encourage each of them to rent a car for their time here and agin use the least efficient form of transportation when they could stay at hotels close to the tram line and catch the trains to stadiums bringing thousands of people in and out of the events without traffic jams
While that may be true in some instances I disagree they shouldn’t have a station. Similar to hope island while they may be less likely to use it because of their access to other things we should still encourage they use things like the train.
The last thing I want to see is South East Queensland end up like most of the United States: Car dependent and unable to change not only because drivers don't have any other choice, but because carmakers, oil companies and every other industry involved with cars don't want it to.
Well done. But it's not just your generation. I've been advocating for rail in many forms, interstate, intercity, intracity, for decades. And not only for moving people. How many 1000's of huge semi-trailers are travelling on our roads everyday, destroying said roads with their weight and creating safety issues for any smaller vehicles.
@@sabummal that’s great to hear. It would definitely help a lot of people if everyone was willing to take a step back and look at the way we do things.
Reason why your generation is questioning why we are building more car roads- policies are made and the loudest are the baby boomers, who got used to car dependency
@@blackbeard2261 that’s great but the more alternatives we give everyone else the more people will be able to travel and the less traffic you will need to fight. No one is suggesting replacing existing roads but there is no need for projects like these highways that are not connecting anywhere new but are simply increasing capacity in the most inefficient way possible. If a travel corridor has proven high enough traffic to require such projects why not move that traffic to a method that can handle more people
Then you should be all for projects that get cars off roads and provides people with other travel options because it frees up the road for people who need to drive and like to drive like you.
@@CGWillBI support all good public transport alternatives to make travelling cheaper and more efficient. I also support the work being done on our roads it’s definitely necessary to make mobile work and logistics more efficient.
what you failed to highlight is Becoming a Politician is the ONLY career you require zero training education experience to do. This is why everything the government does is over priced usually out dated even before the project begins.
@@tomcat3070 that’s why we need to share all the knowledge we have so they can have at least a chance of maybe using some of it to do slightly better. If they ever will is beyond my control but I’ve now done my part
If I catch public transport from my home to work, it take 3 times as long than vs car. Reality is we live in a society built post the creation of modern mass transportation. The tram allowed urban sprawl, and this was taken to the next level after the car arrived. And now trams and trains can supply the type of transport we need with out a full redesign of the system. Last mile access needs to be improved, with express buses between hubs It would take a massive commitment to implement such an undertaking.
Definitely last mile transport is the weakest link in most of Australia's transport systems but that is definitely no reason to accept any amount of defeat to these old choices that created this situation. It would take a massive commitment but so was dedicating all available resources to pave roads to every small town. It is still possible to create change. Even if it starts small.
Speak for yourself. But many people would rather not drive and if we improve the public transport people like you who want to drive will fight less traffic
@@FreeSeoul it’s car dependent because of how it’s been built but I’ve found it reasonably easy to get around recently completely without a car for the last few months still going to work, Uni and out for fun perfectly fine. It has some major needs for improvement but it’s possible. Also as a tourism town wouldn’t it be beneficial to all the tourist to not need to hire a car to get around or for schoolies to drive home drunk
@@CGWillB Nope. There was no other way to build in Australia. If you find it easy to get around anywhere in Australia outside the inner city of Sydney or Melbourne then you clearly don't leave the house much unfortunately. It would be beneficial to not need cars, so would it be beneficial if housing, utilities and water were free but that's also not reasonable.
@@FreeSeoul Yes cars will be required for the vast majority of Australia's area but when so much of our population is limited to major cities along the east coast other options become viable. Even the Gold Coast contains a functional bus network that when combined with a short bike ride to get to the initial station can get me almost anywhere in the city. frequencies are a joke everywhere except the tram which ads to travel time but its not impossible. residential areas are the worst connected but almost all destinations are connected to the network to some extent. at least in the older areas of town, I'm aware many new developments completely lack connections
@@CGWillB No, most people live in suburbs which are very hard to populate with good public transport. Frequencies and reliability are both out the window for low density in most parts of Australia due to the size and ease of car use. It doesn't make sense to use public transport when it adds an hour to your trips on average. The tram was a huge mistake that really cut the development of public transport in all areas of the GC except that one line, it also took development backwards in a lot of areas because the overwhelming cost of a tram system.
the benefits of good and cheap public transport drastically outweighs the need for profit. If people didn't need to spend money on owning and operating a car or tickets for the train they would spend more elsewhere. transport especially public transport doesn't need to and sometimes shouldn't turn profit. that's what the 50c trial has shown us.
@@CGWillB All good - I support a fully government owned rail infrastructure myself -admittedly I'm from NSW - but yeah - I'm saddened that roads are the focus in the regions away from high population centres. :(
Your graphic about most dangerous mode of transport actually shows Motorcycles as being the most dangerous. Granted if you take numbers of cars vs motorcycles then the cars will take first spot, but that graphic is still misleading.
@@cosmic_diver yes motorbikes are the most dangerous way to travel for the occupants but cars are the most dangerousness for everything around them which is a large part of what makes riding a motorbike so dangerous. You are exposed on this relatively lightweight vehicle next to these giant heavy cars and trucks. If you where to look at causes of pedestrian and animal deaths cars out kill motorbikes.
Brother read the 2036 master plan please 😂 there is 250 thousand people going to live in the norwell valley area and Gold Coast isn’t getting a port anymore so all their cargo freight needs a road that’s why the Co connector ends at the port of Brisbane once completed
Your reading the wrong report 😂😂😂😂 you need the 2036 one that deemed Gold Coast wasn’t getting a cargo port so connection to the port of Brisbane was needed . The commera connection is only the first 3 stages after that they are continuing to the port of Brisbane via mt cotton rd and a tunnel under the reservoir
isnts the redlands getting a motorway and 4 new tunnels in brisbane. one from port of brisbane motorway to archerfield via woolloongabba, another one under the centenary highway, a brisbane western bypass, and lastly the gympie road tunnel which will feed to the second bruce highway through caboolture west
7:30 - Fun fact, I actually modeled the Scania L94UB bus shown here! 😊
I absolutely agree with this video! It’s disappointing to see QLD doubling down on car-centric infrastructure, which ultimately traps us in the most inefficient and unsustainable form of transport. This car dependency creates more traffic, pollution, and limits mobility for those who don’t drive. which ultimately traps us in the most inefficient and unsustainable form of transport
We need to speak up and advocate for better alternatives-like reliable public transport, biking infrastructure, and walkable cities.
This car-dependent future isn't the one we want or need!
That’s awesome. Thanks for your work! Sorry I didn’t initially credit you. I thought I did for all the assets I used but clearly I only sources the NGR model.
Building another highway next to an exisiting one is borderline criminal
And going through precious koala habitat. 😡
There needs to be a royal commission into why this is where taxpayer money has been wasted instead of being invested into more public transport.
I live in Coomera and I can't even get on to the M1 at peak time. So I'm glad there the traffic will flow elsewhere....
They have had this road planned for years before you were even born they knew that the 90s made m1 would not be up to the task of handling the growth in this region and it’s true. Also the reason why people drive is because it’s far more convenient than public transportation for say your commute to work if you live in Pimpama or Coomera and work in surfers or Broadbeach. It literally takes double the time on public transportation. And you can say they can just build or extend the rail line but believe it or not this cost more takes more time to get approval for routes
@@DarKcS2I like your optimism. But unfortunately expanding for traffic expands traffic. It’s always been the case. It’s predicted and then proven each time. Before long, you’ll still have trouble getting on, but you’ll also have a piece of a nice big public debt.
A highspeed train straight from Brisbane to Surfers Paradise would of likely cost the same, and brought substantially more benefits. It sucks our governments cannot see past their car obsessions.
The only reason that it’s going ahead is because it’s 80% federal funding. If the state government had more skin in the game I think it would’ve been canceled
It takes 2 hours via train and light rail to get from Roma Street Station to Surfers Paradise Station, that’s double what it takes to drive. If we spent the Coomera Connector money on a new alignment for the Gold Coast rail line, you could get the total travel time down to 1 hour and would create enormous commercial and residential development.
I bet we could get it lower than an hour if we really tried hard enough
@@electro_sykes Wouldn't it be lovely if we could build Australia's first high-speed rail service? It's only 80ks (?) from Brisbane to the GC, so it's a much shorter/smaller project than other proposed HSRs, eg Syd-Melb. It would be a great showpiece and a brilliant addition to our region.
@@VanillaMacaron551 yes and also sunshine coast to brisbane. It can run elevated above both the bruce and pacific highways. whiz pas the traffic. The exsisting allignment of the gold coast line south of beenleigh is ok to be used. It should stop at helensvale because interchange with the trams. As nice as it would be to head into surfers paradise, it would be very difficult.
@@KhanPiesseONE goldcoast fast rail project plans on doing that already, basically bridges over kuraby level crossing, and quad track from kuraby to beenleigh, allows higher frequency and more more express gold coast trains.
Try driving the M1 on a Friday afternoon from Beenleigh to Helensvale, then tell me again how slow it is to get the train and light rail.
Amazing video! I really cannot fathom that QLD is just copy-pasting a motorway. Sydney sadly did the same with the M5-M8, but the only silver lining there is that at least both those motorways are mostly/entirely underground. To build an entirely new motorway through huge swathes of open space is just so mind-boggling.
Totally agree. It’s insane that they’re doing this. That’s why we got to make it known what we really think
Building beautifully commented. Much respect
Go back to india
Yeah the M5 and M8 represent two different plans for the “end” of the Hume Freeway / Motorway / Highway, and ironically the new one is basically the original plan. But what you say about the tunnels - it’s mostly right, as long as they CLOSE some surface roads. To non-locals I mean. It’s fine for the people who live there to use it! But there shouldn’t be highways carving up Sydney suburbs.
The expenditure for Coomera Connector could have been diverted to fast track stage 4 of G:Link and Gold Coast heavy rail extension to the Gold Coast airport.
Queensland's Infrastructure is about as good as a toddler playing Cities Skylines
Well that would explain the road numbering
Even the latest numbering schemes are brain dead. How many times does Queensland need to have an A3 or A5 ?
I am subscribed to so many channels that cover stuff like this, I didn't even question when this wasn't sci-fi animations.
@@mitwhitgaming7722 haha yea. Bit different to my normal stuff but just needed to share it. Nothing can change if we don’t make it known that it needs to
Hell yeah! Good to see this video!
The rail from GC to Beenleigh is pretty fantastic actually just needs more trains, but it needs a big upgrade from Beenleigh to Moorooka.
Yea I know. I use it a lot and it’s so annoying when to go from flying through all the new track down south to hitting the old Brisbane tracks and slowly swerving your way through. A lot more fun than the Highway tho
They’re working on plans to straighten and quad-track the line to Kuraby at the moment, which is the most problematic section. The whole corridor needs to be quadtracked to get the full benefits, but it’s a start
Nice to see a channel covering this kind of stuff here on the Gold Coast 👍
@@richardbaker2701 Thank you! It always annoyed my how little attention the Gold Coast was given with this kind of stuff so I thought I would do something to at least try and change that
The major stuff up was when they opened the new Gold Coast railway line in 1996. Everyone wants to go to the beach but the new railway line went nowhere near it. And it still doesn’t.
Ok so I’m from Scotland currently in Gold Coast visiting, I genuinely thought when I saw the building work it would be for a train line…
This is a great video man with lots of information, keep up the good work!
Thank you! I wish it was for the train line. I'm glad you found it interesting. I think even a lot of people living here don't know enough about what's going on but I'm glad you found some interest in it!
Sick video, I totally agree. The government are spending billions on a waste and dangerous project and forgetting about all the beneficial train lines.
yea. The list of recently built or upgraded roads and highways is massive but QLD hasn't built any new heavy rail since the airport line in 2001 which was built by a private company and the government doesn't get full control of it until 2036. obviously there is also the Gold Coast Tram but as great as that system is it still cant compete with true heavy rail in speed and capacity.
@ Yea
My biggest issue with the way our trains are going is the NGR trains themselves. I’m sorry but those seats are 500 times worse than the seats on the original EMU trains that were introduced back in the 70s. And yet the comfy trains are slowly dwindling in numbers.
But what do I know, I’m the guy who spends his time researching the trams that Brisbane ripped up back in 1969 to make way for more cars and highways. Thanks Clem Jones, it’s thanks to you that for many years our buses were packed to the brim only being able to carry 80 people while the trams were licensed to carry 110. At least the tram isn’t totally dead in Brisbane as the Brisbane Tramway Museum in Ferny Grove has preserved 22 of the old trams plus 2 of Brisbane’s electric trolley buses which were also killed back in the 60’s by Clem. The oldest tram in the collection is 123 years old and normally 7 of the museum’s trams would be giving rides to the public every Sunday but unfortunately the museum’s substation for the trams bit the dust back in late 2023 and since then not a single tram has moved and the council has done bugger all to help. But hopefully I’ll be back to conducting old trams and sharing my passion with the public.
Sorry for dumping tram knowledge into your comments (I’m suffering from tram withdrawal).
@@Gunzel14 yea I definitely agree about the seats. Living in the Gold Coast line it is rare to catch anything other than an NGR so until recently I didn’t know what I was missing. And yes losing the trams in Brisbane is extremely annoying and will become costly when like Sydney they eventually start needing to rebuild the network.
I was 6 years old when my family moved from Melbourne to Brisbane. Trams from Wynnum to the inner city had just been decommissioned. Tram tracks were slowly being ripped up for new roads. Only way to get from Wynnum to the inner city was then a multiple bus transfer, travel by car or the very occasional train to the city.
@@geradkavanagh8240 I’m afraid the trams never ran to Wynnum. The closest the got to Wynnum was the line to Belmont (the suburb of Belmont has since shrunk so the line now terminates in Carina). Sorry if this comes across as me being rude.
@@Gunzel14 May be right. I do remember having to cross a disused line on the way to school.
Really well done video! I’m sharing this around to people I know in the Gold Coast.
The Coomera connector is a poor use of infrastructure and land. Should be used to host more PT.
Subscribed! I hope you keep producing more content
Thanks so much!😁
I have enough money to afford a decent car thanks to savings my parents set aside for me when I was younger, but factor in paying for the expenses to run a car like fuel, rego, insurance, etc, it would dig a big hole of debt in whatever i have left.
Nice work.I appreciate both the research you've put in and the effort you've gone to with the visuals.
@@BrisbaneChannel thank you!
Heavy rail not only needs to be expanded to Gold Coast (and Sunshine Coast) Airport,but also directly to Surfers Paradise and Southport. The ability is there but the drive isn’t. Likewise, Brisbane needs a proper under ground metro system. Now they have the skilled people there from the construction of Cross River Rail, keep them there. Instead they’re going to build another bloody road tunnel 🤦🏻♂️
Ahem, what about we keep going to Murwillumbah and join up to the XPT! If we did this I’d even sacrifice the Solar Train, and lay dual gauge through the Gold Coast.
Kyogle makes no sense.
@@whophd What is a solar train how does that work?
I started to use public transport lately, it was almost the same time as I was using driving my car
But I have to add the waiting time between buses, tram and train
Plus also the limitations of not allowing bicycles in tram, I can understand the bus(because of space) but tram???
Other problem that I’ve found is the opening hours of the train, tram and buses
If you have a very early job start at 4am or 5am, sorry but your options are:
Drive your car, or
Find another way to get there
But not with public transport
@@clcanturin yea I definitely agree frequencies is one of the biggest weaknesses of QLDs public transport. Also definitely agree about the starting hours. I always hate having that moment of realisation if I’m in Brisbane and don’t get to the train before 12 I simply can’t get home
Great video and excellent animations. We need more QLD urban planning content
Can't wait for the sunshine coast to the gold coast to be one big strip of asphalt
genuinely terrible idea especially considering the absolute state of public transport in the gold coast, its already a suburban nightmare
I'm 81 years old - definitely not your young group - but I agree with what you are pushing, 100%. Don't be overcome or frustrated with the thusness of governments and planners - they just went to the wrong universities and are unable to adjust their ability to reason. You are (all of you) right-thinking people who mustn't lessen the force of your thinking by compromising to accomodate wrong-thinkers. Congratulations.
Thank you! glad to see we aren't alone
As someone that lives northern Gold Coast (ormeau) i agree they need more transit infrastructure. I believe for the GC itself to improve transit infrastructure. A metro from coomera to harbour town that continues down southport burleigh road that provides additional connections at around nerang street light rail, people first stadium and pac fair among others. I also agree the light rail to extend to harbour town and further to biggera waters and the current train line to the airport (The last 2 i just mentioned should have already been done given the land has already been acquired for it). I also think from Helensvale, Nerang, Robina and Varsity lake train station exclusive bus lanes should start from the western side of the m1 to give those commuters a way to get around without needing a car to get to a station or there destination in the first place and those bus lanes extending to the metro and light rail stops. Theres more that can be done to remove cara along the highway coming to the coast from logan, Ipswich and redlands but in terms of reducing local traffic on the coast this is what needs to be done to begin with
Very well put!
Our leaders are so obsessed with cars, instead of investing in better public transportation.
@@heyjaydreamerr when they can afford to sit in their air conditioned car burning fuel all day it makes sense. But ultimately they are supposed to be elected to represent what we want so hopefully 50c fares can keep the momentum it needs to bring more improvements.
This was really well made, nice work (and great content too)
I lived on the gold coast for a few months and got around on foot and by public transport, and I'd always get asked "where's your car parked?" indeed I spent most of my time waiting at traffic lights, trying to dart across busy multi-lane roads with no pedestrian crossings, walking past massive carparks, and trying to figure out where to enter shops without a vehicle.
You make some very good points in your video. Here's a few of my thoughts:
*Roads make money.* They make money through road taxes, petrol taxes, traffic fines, GST on everything to do with your car, and roadside advertising.
*Public Transport* in the form of buses and trams is often slow. These are run slowly, often having an average speed along their route/line of between 20 and 35 kmh. Buses aren't serving areas where they're needed. Trams are seen as "environmentally friendly" as they don't physically emit any form of emissions. The problem is that they still require overhead wires and poles, and a high voltage of electricity. I'm all for trams as they are a great people mover. You can do so much more in terms of people movement with a tram than what you can with a bus!
*The Gold Coast Railway." This is nearly 30 years old! In its time it's been extended from Helensvale to Nerang, then to Robina, and now to Varsity Lakes. The opportunity to take the line to Southport, like the former South Coast line, has now been lost. The line should go to Coolangatta Airport, Tweed Heads, and Murwillumbah. I also think Queensland Rail should have done a deal with the NSW Government years ago and secured the rail corridor to Casino. Then there would be a regular train service from North Coast NSW to Brisbane via the Gold Coast.
I can't see too much good happening from the new Queensland Premier (yet the ALP were worse, from what I know), but the existing Gold Coast line should not only see 5 trains an hour (one every 12 minutes) but where possible, the line expanded to 4 tracks, as is being done in parts of Brisbane's southern suburbs. Freight traffic should also be considered in order to lessen the amount of big trucks on the roads.
I definitely agree with a lot of your point too however in most scenarios cars still cost more than they make and improved public transport and in particular good walkable environments would actually benefit the government more from a tax revenue perspective.
Also a lot of limits on the speed of public transport is due to shared areas with cars where they are brought down to the same speed as those cars. in dedicated corridors like heavy rail go to 140km/h on the gold coast line and even the Gold Coast Tram along smith street often has no problem traveling faster than cars. I know that the trams are limited to 70km/h while smith street is 80 but due to traffic it still is not infrequent for me to see the tram outrunning cars on the road from both the perspective on the tram and from the road.
And yes the gold coast line as it exists today has long missed many opportunities but this video was trying to use it as a comparison because it exist exactly parallel to the newly built Coomera Connector which is literally being built on rail corridor land removing the option for possible duplication to 4 tracks or the possible very distant rumours of high speed rail tracks using that space are all now impossible because people keep making excuses to get more people sitting in traffic making car companies not the government money instead of fixing any problems
I'm so glad you've made this video. I think about this constantly on my way to work here on the GC.
More light needs to be shed on how great the train and tram network could really be with a few tweaks.
There definitely needs to be an extension of the heavy rail from Varsity station down to Cooly.
The tram probably shouldn't be extended from Burleigh to Cooly as the busses already stop at all the new proposed tram locations for stage 4.
A huge increase in trams running on the existing lines (30 mins/1 hour is way too long to wait) and late night trains/trams Friday-Sunday running once per hour (12-6am).
The addition of horizonal tram lines from the suburbs to the city might be smart as well and there is space to add them.
Some examples include:
Trams from Burleigh to Varsity Lakes station via Reedy creek Rd (in the middle lanes) which would make it easier to access a heavy rail (to cooly if added) when headed to the airport.
Trams from Broadbeach to Merrimac via Nerang-Broadbeach Rd/Gooding Dr (in the middle lanes) which would create seamless access to the city and connecting to the main Tram/Train lines.
And if possible/needed, a vertical tram line running from Robina to Ashmore/Griffith Uni via Robina Parkway (in the middle lanes) creating more connection and less of a need for cars in general.
Just doing those few things would make a world of difference for those trying to get around and making our city more inter-connected like the city of Melbourne (which has a great tram/train system).
These are just my opinions and I'm open to feedback/criticism but I feel like this could make public transport better for our spread out city and hopefully stop the people planning future projects to stop and think about what actually might help and what won't).
I absolutely agree. What annoys me the most is almost all of what you just said has been in the Gold Coasts public transport plan since the 2010s but for some reason this highway was what took priority?
@CGWillB extremely frustrating hey. And just seeing where the coomera connector actually connects up won't even ease traffic. It'll make it worse in places like Hope Island as residents of both the east and west side of the M1 will still have to use the M1 🤯 Beyond insanity imo.
Queensland does t know how to build railways. It’s going to take them 10yrs to build 19km spur line to Caloundra at cost of 5.5b.
yea QLD is definitely far behind but may as well start trying to fix it now
We need to do a full on Perth. Build multiple rail lines at once under a seperate authority
I still think the alternative route over the river is much needed as the terrible development choices made in Coomera has created some of the worst bottlenecks in the country. Did it need to be highway standard? probably not. But at least they were thoughtful enough to include dedicated separate shared paths along that route too. All the need to do now is connect those back to the train stations and down to Southport/Surfers.
I would be rather ticked off if the future extensions of the Coomera Connector got funded though, especially before all the light rail and heavy rail extensions.
Well done! SEQueensland is becoming a car hellscape.
wow, I was absolutely blow away by this video! The sheer amount of production value in this makes it feel like something a 100k+ youtuber would post, but you somehow have less than 1k. And the animations, WOW. If you keep semi regularly (once ever 2 weeks or so) uploading content this good I can GARENTEE you will blow up pretty soon :D
Haha thanks a lot but I don’t know if I can keep that upload schedule. I’ve been working on this video for about 6 weeks😅. Maybe when real life stuff clears up I could do more.
@@CGWillB Even if you cant continue huge respect for making such a great video completely by yourself :)
The same happened in Glasgow when the M74 was extended to reduce load on the M8. Now there are two motorways of nose to tail traffic jams every day, instead of one. No decent public or active transport alternatives.
its always a shame because it can't be a lack of knowledge that they choose to build these projects. The only thing I can think of is the people making these choices cant fathom that some people would rather leave their cars aircon if it means getting somewhere more efficiently.
THE TRAIN ANIMATIONS ARE SO GOOD!
Thank you. Hope my experience as an animator made the whole video a bit more interesting.
You have succeeded in making mode comparison sexy
Really nice work! It's funny hey, don't buy avocado on toast so you could afford a mortgage but the cost of a car impacting your ability to buy a house due to the lack of other transport options - just part of life.
Drove to the southern gold coast for school holidays. Honestly once your there it's nice not to have to use your car to go to the beach and shops with little kids, if you could just take a train that got there would be great and a train should be able to go at a higher speed way more safely.
The Dutch recently held a grand prix in a small town, over 100,000 people per day went to watch the race and they got there by train, bicycle and walking or bus primarily, also parking a car and riding from some locations. It's amazing. Whereas Brisbane had a Sunday market with 7000 people attending and they had to shut it down due to causing too much congestion on roads because the only way to get there is to drive a car, hmmm. It's nice to have more freedom to choose how to get around safely.
$3 billion could've bought a hell of a lot of buses to boost services and a possible LR extension to Harbour Town, and possibly the train line to Elanora at least.
I compiled a list of all 60 bus routes the GC has, and found that 63% of them run hourly and finish before 7pm - and in some cases they run every 2hr or not at all on weekends.
The coomera connector will only create induced demand.
Wow I didn’t know that many of the bus routes were that bad. But yea they are definitely lacking and around where I live it’s challenging to get to the tram or train stations to even start my journey with the available buses
The saddest part is the Gold Coast had two rail lines . One to South Port (terminated near the railway hotel that's still there) and the other to Tweed Heads (terminated near Griffith Street - sort of near the boles club). Sadly the Nationals had both ripped up at the end of steam/wooden carriages operation they as didn't want to pay to upgrade the line or buy more DH locos (the only modern loco they had that was light enough but they were all deployed in north Queensland) & metal body carriages that were light enough to run on it. Both rail corridors unfortunately now also have houses in parts - most frustratingly the tunnel at Burleigh couldn't be re-used for the trams because they let people build on either side of it.
Unfortunately the ripping up of lines wasn't an isolated incident - the Nationals doing there best Margaret Thatcher impersonation also ripped up lines like the Mt Morgan, Emu Park and Yeppoon - along with I'm sure many others that completely destroyed future prospects for communities.
@@jouebien I had heard of the Southport line but not the tweed heads one before. It is always frustrating seeing what we are missing out on because “cars are the future”. I actually have a very funny story from recently where a friend missed a train and in the half an hour I was waiting for them I could have driven one way to their location or what I did was wait for 10 minutes on the platform catch the northbound train and wait for another 10 minutes and catch the train back all within the 30 minutes it would have taken me to drive one way. They really downgraded everything when they replace rail with road.
I've been a lifelong rail freak....YES, SEQ needs MORE Rail, but there are serious weaknesses to some of the concepts presented here. Two obvious 1) Tradies/logistics can not use public transit. 2) The road commute between BNE/GC is just part of the mix, it's what people do with their cars, when they reach those destinations....again, public transit suffers serious limitations after people have moved along the primary corridor and enter the "personal commute" element of their journey!
YES, SEQ should embrace a "TransApex of Rail" BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba, but road will always be a big part of the mix!
Totally agree. Public transport will never be 100% of the solution but improving it would definitely help and building more private vehicle infrastructure is almost certainly not steps forward
"BNE to - GC - SunshineC - Toowoomba" in 45 minutes each, was in the infrastructure plans for 2042. Who knows what that's slipped now, and how much more it's slip after a change on government in October.
Great video and agree with so much of this! It is also bizarre that the Gold Coast is so good at high density near the beach, but awful at it near the rail line.
One thing worth mentioning though in your calculation about NGR trains versus cars: the Gold Coast line platforms can be upgraded to run 50% larger trains in future once Cross River Rail opens (the NGR trains are currently only 146m long but in future the CRR will enable the new Gold Coast-Sunshine Coast line to run 220m long trains once platforms & stabling are extended). So in future the Gold Coast can run NGR trains carrying about 1450 passengers. The NGR trains are also currently configured for large amounts of seating, whereas Sydney Perth and Melbourne are now using more Metro-style trains that can hold significantly more passengers than the NGRs of the same length:
146m Queensland NGR can carry 964 passengers
144m Perth C-Series can carry 1200 passengers
143m Melbourne X'Trapolis 2.0 can carry 1241 passengers
So a 218m-long upgraded Gold Coast train could be configured to carry close to 1900 passengers in future.
Also worth mentioning as I watched your animation (which was amazing!): the Gold Coast trams are currently 45m long and can carry 300 passengers, but as they too become busier they can also be extended in the future (some cities around the world use coupled trams up to 90-100m long), not saying we need to go down that route but the scalability of transit just needs to be put into perspective, cars are just blown out of the water. Anyone that has seen efficient train operations at sports grounds just swallow up massive crowds like in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or any of the grounds in Europe will have seen this in action.
thanks a lot! I 100% agree. however personally especially in reference to the trams but it is important for the trains too I think frequency outweighs the capacity of each train drastically. personally I would prefer a 6 carriage train every 10 minutes rather than a 9 carriage every 20. the 30 minute frequencies currently being run is definitely not enough. but the increased capacity is important for the future. especially for things like the Olympics where we will need to get a lot of people in and out of venues all at once.
@@CGWillB Oh for sure, frequency through capacity is the better option, I was only making the point that a single Gold Coast train in future could take as many as 1500 cars' worth of passengers (at the vehicle occupancy rate of 1.2). The half-hourly frequency is a joke, even more depressing that they cut the Cross River Rail tunnels shorter than the original plan to try and save cash but they ended up having to upgrade all those stations anyway. I think instead of focusing on High Speed Rail in Sydney (and I say that as someone from Sydney that used to live in Newcastle) the Government should have first focused on giving additional funds to support a much better fast rail between Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast through Cross River Rail including express track all the way to Beenleigh and a new express track pair on the NW Transit Corridor. There is so much SE Queensland could do with better public transport funding but it keeps going to new bloody roads!
Well said!
Catching the train down to Uni and having to watch that 6 lane monstrosity be built next to it is depressing.
Would be cool if you made a video on the light rail to GC airport and all the stupid arguments people in palm Beach make to try and block it.
Make it a two lane each way road and then the third lane can be a dedicated metro line. 150 passengers per bus brings some of the benefits of mass transit without the massive cost of rail.
@@rmar127 that would definitely be a massive improvement over the current implementation. However true rail systems do pay for themselves long term a lot more than buses
when i think of the gold coast i think of botox, influenzas and lip fillers
mate i reckon you could send this video to your transport minister, opposition leader, state premier, your local state and fed MP.
@@owenb7911 I’ve sent it to all the people I could. Didn’t get a lot of responses. Feel free to forward it to as many as you can!
I suggested that they should have built a 12 Lane each way double decker Highway on top of the M1 from Brisbane down to the border but who am I🫠🫠🫠🫠
Slowly but surely the situation is improving, the Coomera road needs to be built now because of decisions made 30 years ago when we were not so enlightened, not building the road now is a travesty to the people who live there now and have no alternative to get around, that alternative should have been built before they were allowed to move into the area,
Existing roads cannot continue to cope with the current population living in the area so new ones need to be built, train lines need to be upgraded, tram lines need to be added and all needs to be done asap
@@dlunn196 definitely it cannot support the population but also that current population is still living with the current roads and while congested the roads will simply reach their capacity and people change their behaviour to avoid those trips. building new roads like this will simply provide short term relief changing the trip behaviour of locals ultimately increasing their dependence on cars and not providing any steps towards long term improvement. The road to improvement may be painful but it would provide better long term quality of life for those living in the area
For accuracy, can you tweak the Blender animations? Mostly so the cars are spaced out to 3-second distances.
Of course for full accuracy you’d also want to reduce the lane count to something typical, extending the queue, and adding a percentage for irregular movement. Then for fairness, if a train is 3 minutes behind the last one (a globally standard of excellence), you’d show how far back that is.
I’d love that final comparison most of all actually! All you’d need in both cases is their optimal speed - easy enough to find the speed limits on both forms of transport.
@@whophd great ideas. I did the comparison the way I did to try and fit everything in frame as quickly as possible but for a future video that kind of accuracy might be better suited
The upcoming Gold Coast Faster Rail project is estimated to cost 6 billion, the price of two Coomera Connectors. If the stooges in parliament actually used their brains instead of wasting taxpayer funds on their pet projects, we couldve already had it by now!
Got away from the coast a couple of years ago and glad of it.
Well said
WOW. Seeing this quality made me think i was on a channel with way more subs, incredible stuff.
Twice i year i travel up to my grandparents up on mount tambo. Last time i was up, i thought to myself "can i get down to the coast car free?". Worst mistake of my life. The shuttle "bus" if you can call it that was cramped and only comes around five times a day. Not only that, but you have to RING the operators of the bus to reserve your seat the day before, and it's exempt from the 50c fares, so it cost a fortune.
As a result, not many people use it, and it shows with carparks at busy areas never being free and events running out of parking horribly quickly.
The Gold Coast deserves better than this.
@@goldcoast8549 thanks a lot! yea, the infrastructure hasn’t changed much since it was a small tourist town. The busy areas and events don’t have enough support from alternate forms of transport to get people there leading to what car parks can fit being expensive and full.
The rail system in Australia is under utilised. If trains were used to take trucks off the Bruce highway it would be safer. Jobs for truck drivers will go from long haul to short haul to deliver good from the train stations to homes and businesses.
@@carldurham5879 absolutely! Roads like this are inefficient for all forms of transport, passenger and freight.
There was a Rallway from Beenleigh to Tweed Heads with a spur to Southport. It was ripped up in the 60's.
look up South Coast railway line, Queensland
@@joeltyler3427 yea I’ve heard about that. So frustrating. They had it all and decided to destroy it. Same as Brisbane’s old trams
@@CGWillB I'd love to find a map of the old alignment. I understand that there are two tunnels that still exist. Update Ernest Junction tunnel is still accessible, West Burleigh tunnel still exists but was covered by later Pacific Motorway earthworks.
I so very very agree agree with you and this video we need a electric trains and and cleaner world 🌎
The only good thing about it is that they're building a shared path
amazing, kinda wish they would extend CRR to marooka, have gc trains underground and the 3 existing tracks for Beenleigh Beaudesert and interstate.
Yea underground trains would be awesome but something I didn’t realise until doing a little research is the ground around here makes underground like that difficult. Apparently the tunnel under the Coolangatta airport runway is basically floating in the ground and uses pumps to avoid flooding or moving
GC does need better public transportation correct but the need for cars are never going to go away until you make public transport a viable choice for going grocery shopping, carting big sporting bags around, space for luggage in general, having more buses on the road going cross suburb rather direct to the central business areas, having more trains and trams servicing the very important and heavily used trunk routes diverting buses to do the connections, we also need to look at decentralisation of CBD’s and bring business or business hubs to the suburbs which governments could drive by having communal offices for their employees across the city, region, state and country which would also foster greater connections between departments and services (long shot of happening I know), there is a lot we could do but we need the could to become a reality to reduce the reliance on cars even in the slightest. I am a person with a disability who cannot hold a driver’s license so a less car reliant world would greatly benefit me.
Amazing points! Well said
Twice a year I take the car shopping instead of using delivery (weekly or twice weekly) and it makes me want to bury myself 6 feet under. How do people put up with all that time wasting? Carrying the bags here, unloading the car, loading the car, moving trolleys around, EUGH. It took me a few months but for 5 years now I’ve been doing the “shopping” in about 20 minutes and SLAM, I shut the laptop. Yeah you have to figure out which days are more reliable but is it any less mental labour in knowing all the tricks going to the aisles and looking for hidden stuff? Honestly searching the entire store in 5 seconds not 5 minutes, what is going on with humans? And you can read the back of everything in 1/4 of the time if you need to compare different brands.
But sigh, I must be the dumb one because 90% do it the hard way 🤷♂️
great video big dog! all we need is some faster trains or a underground metro.
Thank you! If we really tried why not both!? Might have helped if LNP didn't give away all of our 50c funding by removing the Coal royalties tax
Just the result of suburbia development and the development ponzai scheme. You might have seem the Not Just Bike video on it.
@@roykuo4 yes! Not Just Bikes was a big inspiration for this video. He shows all of this stuff very well
That channel blew my mind. Its made me want to move to inner city Melbourne and just walk and use public transport everywhere. Gold Coast and Brisbane sucks in that regard and is doomed.
@@Ryan-qx4wh Ye totally agreed. It reminds me of him and another transit channel saying: "why does public transports have to make money when roads don't make any money and they spend just as much?"
@@CGWillB Ye totally agreed. It reminds me of him and another transit channel saying: "why does public transports have to make money when roads don't make any money and they spend just as much?"
@@roykuo4 yea its crazy. would take free and good public transport over free roads any day
Hey, I'm old and even I can see the "more roads, more cars" mating call is obsolete.
The M1 is too congested and becomes dangerous when you are tired at 5 pm and have to drive home in stop-and-go traffic. You will hit your front vehicle once you get blinded by the sun.
Exactly why we need to get people off it into safer and more efficient forms of transport. Bonus if they don’t need to drive to
WEll said, and great work on the animations 👍👍
Thank you so much😄
Well dur of course we need Highways they are much needed. GC just a needs a more fequent train service
Well put. When Qld decided it was too good to bother with reviewing its laws, and all that rigging went on...they tore up the existing trams ,,, there are still rails in coorparoo ...thing is...it was money then and it is money now...fact is our taxes paid a company to built stuff, with needlessly borrowed money...gifted land, tax exemptions and insurances...like the gateway and inner city melbourne..and a lot of things wewre different and better before you were born ...at one point Aud was 1.20 us and stable...in the 60s-70s it got to 1.58/60 i think...petrol...was 35c a litre for my parents...intewrest was like 17.7 percent opeople paid 27 000 for a new houser and land whic h was working man 5-10 yeares put it all back in...but it was the 80s...everyone was in ther army reserve and having bbqs...don't believe the hippie reinvention of it...hippies got bashed here and rightly so...throw blood on jim will they? anyhow... good expose...and with it...?I concur.
Very informative
Sacrifice road money and build maglev HSR transrapid and abandon the long distance intercity trains. Restructure country services to become regional rail services linking the HSR corridor to rural areas
There is thing my generation calls a referdex to find locations, interesting how 30 years ago this "proposed duplication" was displayed back then, good to see it's going ahead, train is fun and relaxing but difficult and expensive for first and last mile - getting to the station and back
Exactly why it need improvement!
This is … why we look at other countries because they’ve solved it, instead of giving up and saying “um”. Cars should be a CHOICE not a tax you have to pay for living.
Highways have their pros most certainly. In the situation of Brisbane to Gold Coast…? Provide alternatives that arent car focused because the inner city public transport network in both cities already exist. HSR would substantially benefit SE QLD. Furthermore the network could expand further north or even west!
@@nxthanj high speed rail would be amazing but I personally think the local connections around each city Gold Coast in particular need improvement first. The train is already decent and a high speed rail wouldn’t improve much if you still can’t get to your final destination without a car. But still 100% HSR would be awesome
Amazing video man.
Could you look into the failed Springfield extension or the Beaudesert connection that was sabotaged?
It's not being built for your generation. Not even mine or my son's generation. It's being built for the 2032 Olympics and beyond. Another thing to consider is that infrastructure planning is notoriously slow and never gets it right. The rail corridor from Petrie to Kippa Ring should have gone all the way into Settlement Cove and should have been done by the year 2000. What we need in SEQ is to realise that this little corner is not the be all end all of the state. Infrastructure investment is only used where and when the Government will get a return.
@@CH3353N1NJ45the government has stated the Coomera connector is designed for local traffic and doesn’t have anything to do with the Olympics. And even if that was its purpose is it wise to get all these Olympic visitors and encourage each of them to rent a car for their time here and agin use the least efficient form of transportation when they could stay at hotels close to the tram line and catch the trains to stadiums bringing thousands of people in and out of the events without traffic jams
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@@joshuathomas6320 haha thanks a lot!
Coomera is a "canal estate" for rich people. They don't need a train service. They already have 3 cars.
While that may be true in some instances I disagree they shouldn’t have a station. Similar to hope island while they may be less likely to use it because of their access to other things we should still encourage they use things like the train.
The last thing I want to see is South East Queensland end up like most of the United States: Car dependent and unable to change not only because drivers don't have any other choice, but because carmakers, oil companies and every other industry involved with cars don't want it to.
Well done. But it's not just your generation. I've been advocating for rail in many forms, interstate, intercity, intracity, for decades. And not only for moving people. How many 1000's of huge semi-trailers are travelling on our roads everyday, destroying said roads with their weight and creating safety issues for any smaller vehicles.
@@sabummal that’s great to hear. It would definitely help a lot of people if everyone was willing to take a step back and look at the way we do things.
Even if we get better public transport, people will still use their car cause it’s more convenient, which is such a shame
If the public transport was even just slightly more convenient, a lot more people would use it.
Can we have the last bit as a standalone video? Would be quick and easy to share to make the point about the efficiency of PT compared to cars.
@@GavinSeipelt it is in a post on my instagram if you wanted to check that out and share it around😁
why dont they make the m1 26 lanes like the houston - katy freeway in texas! just 1 more lane bro!
@@tangiers365 why didn’t I think of that!
It's disappointing that more koala habitat will be wiped out for this. Great video and good points. I loved the animation too.
Thank you!
HOLY CRAP IS THAT FOR THOSE WHO ROCK IN THE START!?!?!?!??! (i played better)
well said.
Reason why your generation is questioning why we are building more car roads- policies are made and the loudest are the baby boomers, who got used to car dependency
Fantastic video!
Yeah this is pretty bleak. The future doesn't look bright with this.
maybe not but its never too late to change. or at least do our part to try!
@@CGWillB we need a new government, one that we can't vote in
I love driving Its one of the highlights of my day driving through the hinterland on the way to work
@@blackbeard2261 that’s great but the more alternatives we give everyone else the more people will be able to travel and the less traffic you will need to fight. No one is suggesting replacing existing roads but there is no need for projects like these highways that are not connecting anywhere new but are simply increasing capacity in the most inefficient way possible. If a travel corridor has proven high enough traffic to require such projects why not move that traffic to a method that can handle more people
Then you should be all for projects that get cars off roads and provides people with other travel options because it frees up the road for people who need to drive and like to drive like you.
@@CGWillBI support all good public transport alternatives to make travelling cheaper and more efficient. I also support the work being done on our roads it’s definitely necessary to make mobile work and logistics more efficient.
It is absolutely stunning in the very early morning, especially further down the highway and over the border in Bundjalung country.
Amazing video..
Thanks a lot😁
what you failed to highlight is Becoming a Politician is the ONLY career you require zero training education experience to do. This is why everything the government does is over priced usually out dated even before the project begins.
@@tomcat3070 that’s why we need to share all the knowledge we have so they can have at least a chance of maybe using some of it to do slightly better. If they ever will is beyond my control but I’ve now done my part
That’s why we need a technocracy. Put the smartest people in power
I wonder what inspired Saudi Arabia to suddenly start building transit?? Or Dubai
Tell Japan this badly
Induced demand ya flamin' galahs
If I catch public transport from my home to work, it take 3 times as long than vs car.
Reality is we live in a society built post the creation of modern mass transportation. The tram allowed urban sprawl, and this was taken to the next level after the car arrived.
And now trams and trains can supply the type of transport we need with out a full redesign of the system. Last mile access needs to be improved, with express buses between hubs
It would take a massive commitment to implement such an undertaking.
Definitely last mile transport is the weakest link in most of Australia's transport systems but that is definitely no reason to accept any amount of defeat to these old choices that created this situation. It would take a massive commitment but so was dedicating all available resources to pave roads to every small town. It is still possible to create change. Even if it starts small.
You seem to think we want to catch public transport. We don’t.
Speak for yourself. But many people would rather not drive and if we improve the public transport people like you who want to drive will fight less traffic
Imagine being naive enough to think that the Gold Coast doesn't need cars.
@@FreeSeoul it’s car dependent because of how it’s been built but I’ve found it reasonably easy to get around recently completely without a car for the last few months still going to work, Uni and out for fun perfectly fine. It has some major needs for improvement but it’s possible. Also as a tourism town wouldn’t it be beneficial to all the tourist to not need to hire a car to get around or for schoolies to drive home drunk
@@CGWillB Nope. There was no other way to build in Australia. If you find it easy to get around anywhere in Australia outside the inner city of Sydney or Melbourne then you clearly don't leave the house much unfortunately.
It would be beneficial to not need cars, so would it be beneficial if housing, utilities and water were free but that's also not reasonable.
@@FreeSeoul Yes cars will be required for the vast majority of Australia's area but when so much of our population is limited to major cities along the east coast other options become viable. Even the Gold Coast contains a functional bus network that when combined with a short bike ride to get to the initial station can get me almost anywhere in the city. frequencies are a joke everywhere except the tram which ads to travel time but its not impossible. residential areas are the worst connected but almost all destinations are connected to the network to some extent. at least in the older areas of town, I'm aware many new developments completely lack connections
@@CGWillB No, most people live in suburbs which are very hard to populate with good public transport. Frequencies and reliability are both out the window for low density in most parts of Australia due to the size and ease of car use. It doesn't make sense to use public transport when it adds an hour to your trips on average. The tram was a huge mistake that really cut the development of public transport in all areas of the GC except that one line, it also took development backwards in a lot of areas because the overwhelming cost of a tram system.
Rail transport should obviously only be for profit generation - plain and simple. Everyone else -"just use cars!!!" :P
the benefits of good and cheap public transport drastically outweighs the need for profit. If people didn't need to spend money on owning and operating a car or tickets for the train they would spend more elsewhere. transport especially public transport doesn't need to and sometimes shouldn't turn profit. that's what the 50c trial has shown us.
@@CGWillB Couldn't agree more - I was being sracastic.
@@MarkHyde oh sorry. There’s a lot of people here not being so it’s a bit hard to tell😂
@@CGWillB All good - I support a fully government owned rail infrastructure myself -admittedly I'm from NSW - but yeah - I'm saddened that roads are the focus in the regions away from high population centres. :(
Don’t you dare suggest that cars have to pay their own way. CAR SOCIALISM, we must all PAY FOR CARS AND ROADS WITH TAXES on everybody /sarcasm
good stuff! your video that is. not the highway.
@@sky-zc3uz thank you!
W video
Your graphic about most dangerous mode of transport actually shows Motorcycles as being the most dangerous. Granted if you take numbers of cars vs motorcycles then the cars will take first spot, but that graphic is still misleading.
@@cosmic_diver yes motorbikes are the most dangerous way to travel for the occupants but cars are the most dangerousness for everything around them which is a large part of what makes riding a motorbike so dangerous. You are exposed on this relatively lightweight vehicle next to these giant heavy cars and trucks. If you where to look at causes of pedestrian and animal deaths cars out kill motorbikes.
Brother read the 2036 master plan please 😂 there is 250 thousand people going to live in the norwell valley area and Gold Coast isn’t getting a port anymore so all their cargo freight needs a road that’s why the Co connector ends at the port of Brisbane once completed
Imagine, if you will, a train line to move all that freight :0
Your reading the wrong report 😂😂😂😂 you need the 2036 one that deemed Gold Coast wasn’t getting a cargo port so connection to the port of Brisbane was needed . The commera connection is only the first 3 stages after that they are continuing to the port of Brisbane via mt cotton rd and a tunnel under the reservoir
isnts the redlands getting a motorway and 4 new tunnels in brisbane. one from port of brisbane motorway to archerfield via woolloongabba, another one under the centenary highway, a brisbane western bypass, and lastly the gympie road tunnel which will feed to the second bruce highway through caboolture west