Why The Other Mafia Families Don't Respect Pegorino, Why Hes A Joke- GTA 4 Lore Explained

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  • @galilalexandro4392
    @galilalexandro4392 8 місяців тому +1570

    Jimmy Pegorino never had the makings of a varsity mob boss

    • @imagamershorts
      @imagamershorts 8 місяців тому +168

      As Niko said he was
      "a fucking joke" 😂

    • @sebastianmarcu4368
      @sebastianmarcu4368 8 місяців тому

      @@imagamershortsalso a FAT one. A fat fucking joke 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ant_cuts_
      @ant_cuts_ 8 місяців тому +108

      @@imagamershorts”A fat fucking joke” 😂😂😂😂

    • @FarhanSyaputra-li1be
      @FarhanSyaputra-li1be 8 місяців тому +40

      "A joke? Huh... (laughs)"

    • @danksydephil3983
      @danksydephil3983 8 місяців тому +22

      Indeed. His standards were more... remedial in nature.

  • @CevicheGato
    @CevicheGato 8 місяців тому +659

    Pegorinos biggest reason of not being taken seriously as a gangster boss: hiring street muscle. Instead of professional criminals.

    • @somegoodfella
      @somegoodfella 8 місяців тому +61

      Almost every matured criminal was street muscle once though

    • @ScoutTrooperMan
      @ScoutTrooperMan 8 місяців тому +128

      @@somegoodfella true but the reason why Jimmy P's bad at doing it is that he just hires every john doe off the street who wants to be tough without doing some check on them to see if they are a fed

    • @johnclay2716
      @johnclay2716 8 місяців тому +41

      All members of the mafia start out as street muscle unless they're nepo babies
      You start out as a kid doing small time crimes, you get a crew going, eventually if you show your worth you get made, that's how it works

    • @Thewolfe112
      @Thewolfe112 7 місяців тому +8

      Ancelottis hired street muscle too.

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 7 місяців тому +13

      ​​@@Thewolfe112 not to mention aligning themselves with, of all people Dimitri Rascalov, once the Ancelottis and their Albanian muscle had a falling out.

  • @NinjaskKing
    @NinjaskKing 8 місяців тому +775

    Jimmy Pegorino was a legend in his own mind. It’s a miracle that his organization lasted as long as it did or he didn’t end up dead sooner

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 8 місяців тому +82

      As Bruce Wayne once said: Every villain is a hero in their own story

    • @NinjaskKing
      @NinjaskKing 8 місяців тому +83

      @@broden4838 well the reality hit him like a tone of bricks when Niko came for him.

    • @readlater8962
      @readlater8962 8 місяців тому +94

      ​@ninjaskking433 It's worse for jimmy when you realize that it wasn't even one of the more powerful bosses that came for him, instead he was taken out by a fresh off the boat immigrant, basically a nobody.
      Like Niko, says, he really was a fat fucking joke.

    • @julesandrewsusvilla4657
      @julesandrewsusvilla4657 8 місяців тому +25

      He's the Steven Seagal of Mafia bosses

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 8 місяців тому +19

      With all the muscle he hired off the street no wonder he had an informant problem 😔🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @nicklowe1815
    @nicklowe1815 8 місяців тому +269

    One thing i noticed is that on the first mission with Peg, you have to wear a suit. This made us think that Pegorino is this powerful and respected Don with a lot of power and authority, but as the story progresses, it kinda made me feel like the suit is nothing more than an attempt to make Jimmy look more important than he really is.
    On gravelli's first mission, we didnt get a requirement to wear a suit. It kinda makes Jon look like that whether you wear a suit or not, if you had the skill and power to impress Jon, you might earn his respect.

    • @studentNEET319
      @studentNEET319 2 місяці тому +6

      Also I think Jon wouldn't want to make Niko waste on them suits

  • @beingadeeb2345
    @beingadeeb2345 8 місяців тому +627

    My opinion on JP was he had the brains to earn money but not to run a Mafia Family. I think Mr. P was better off as a legitimate businessman rather than a criminal.
    Edit: You know, not even Mrs. P respects her husband.

    • @tSunrise_
      @tSunrise_ 8 місяців тому +52

      "legitimate" businessman

    • @beingadeeb2345
      @beingadeeb2345 8 місяців тому +62

      @@tSunrise_ No I don't mean Semeon. I mean a legitimate good guy.

    • @justdanceparadisearchive3888
      @justdanceparadisearchive3888 8 місяців тому

      Jimmy probably abused his son into suicide. Any mother would divorce the man who murdered her son.

    • @thebananagamer56
      @thebananagamer56 8 місяців тому +56

      Like simeon! We need more legitimate business men in the GTA universe. People should look up to simeon.

    • @zahirecoates
      @zahirecoates 8 місяців тому +13

      True

  • @IlllIlIlIIlll
    @IlllIlIlIIlll 8 місяців тому +1566

    You know a games lore is good when you can talk about it for over 2hours

    • @0902_
      @0902_ 8 місяців тому +41

      The only thing I like about GTA 4

    • @Black-White-BW1
      @Black-White-BW1 8 місяців тому +16

      Yes indeed man!

    • @germanplayer69420
      @germanplayer69420 8 місяців тому +10

      Fr

    • @Blaza303
      @Blaza303 8 місяців тому +42

      And that's only on 1 ingredient in this masterpiece

    • @hewhobattles8869
      @hewhobattles8869 8 місяців тому +53

      You can't help but appreciate and respect the amount of time and work that Profesional puts into squeezing every last drop of lore and info out of these games.

  • @LordRaptor
    @LordRaptor 8 місяців тому +563

    As someone who really likes both the Sopranos and GTA, the Pegorino family were fun characters to interact with.

    • @beingadeeb2345
      @beingadeeb2345 8 місяців тому +32

      Mr. P is such an underrated charector. It is rare to see Morally Grey (For criminal) antagonists in games let alone a GTA game.

    • @williamboske7321
      @williamboske7321 8 місяців тому +23

      @@beingadeeb2345 Pegorino isn't morally grey.

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 8 місяців тому +36

      Funny thing is that Pegorino's VA is not only a voice acting coach, but appeared on a Denny's commercial as well

    • @johnclay2716
      @johnclay2716 8 місяців тому +5

      I wish GTA 6 would have been 1970s Mafia

    • @CompositeCreativity
      @CompositeCreativity 8 місяців тому +2

      @@johnclay2716We have the third game in the Mafia series for that if that’s what you’re looking for. Plus why would GTA 6 go back in time instead of moving forward with the times like the other HD universe games since GTA 4?

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg 8 місяців тому +326

    I think that Big Smoke quote described the best what Pegorino was lacking "Respect has to be earned, Sweet - just like money".

    • @thebananagamer56
      @thebananagamer56 8 місяців тому +58

      "So what are you saying? You don't respect me?"

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 8 місяців тому +67

      @@thebananagamer56 Big Smoke: What I'm saying is... I'm hungry!

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 8 місяців тому +38

      ​@@broden4838 Carl, you look a little thin, man. Ya gotta eat!

    • @yunjin909
      @yunjin909 8 місяців тому +18

      @@heavyglamrocker1987 Yeah I could eat

    • @mrnk88
      @mrnk88 8 місяців тому +18

      "CHEESE has to be earned, Sweet - Just like MEMES"
      - Flying Kitty's YTP Big Smoke

  • @coolguyyy9071
    @coolguyyy9071 8 місяців тому +274

    There’s one deleted phone call from Pegorino after Niko kills Dimitri in A Dish Served Cold where Pegorino scolds Niko for ruining everything, that one phone call shows how Pegorino has lost it after trying to do everything to get onto The Commission

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 8 місяців тому +45

      You know, I'd like to see a script of it or hear it

    • @coolguyyy9071
      @coolguyyy9071 8 місяців тому +1

      @@broden4838 This is the call
      Jimmy: “YOU SMUG F#CKING BASTARD, AFTER ALL I DONE FOR YOU???, YOU PLAY ME LIKE THIS??!!!. I HAD THAT DEAL SET UP! I NEEDED THIS, IT WAS MY ONLY WAY BACK IN AND YOU F#CKED ME!”
      Niko: “I never made any promises to you Mr. Pegorino, I’m my own man and I follow my own instincts. Dimitri and I had unfinished business so I went ahead and finished it, that’s something you’re going to have to accept”
      Jimmy: “I guess I will, the horse is gone, and I can’t get Phil on the phone, who knows what happened to him? Think of all the money you coulda made”
      Niko: “Money’s not what motivates everyone, Mr. Pegorino. I had more important things to think about. Now, I’m out. I don’t want to get involved with this sh#t no more. Good luck to you”
      Jimmy: “You’re a snake. You’ve turned around and but the hand that fed you! How hard would it be to suck up your pride to do one deal??!!! Now, I got nothing left to lose”
      Niko: “Hey, sorry things didn’t work out, goodbye”

    • @Nativemobboss
      @Nativemobboss 7 місяців тому

      @@broden4838 ua-cam.com/video/Mv0rWFjJB_I/v-deo.htmlsi=ZaAbbRHzRABJgOGS

    • @yourbarber6732
      @yourbarber6732 6 місяців тому +9

      @@broden4838 I still got it maybe because my version was downgraded. I was laughing so hard at him raging about his whole plan falling apart. Feels like the last time there's a laughable moment with him until you go after him relentlessly for the last mission

  • @alexchavez9791
    @alexchavez9791 8 місяців тому +730

    Jon Gravelli always said: “The Pegorinos are nothing but a glorified crew”

    • @ScurJaldaan
      @ScurJaldaan 8 місяців тому +142

      Five Fuckin' families, and we got this other pygmy thing over in Alderney

    • @AgentDanielCross
      @AgentDanielCross 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ScurJaldaan or Guernsey

    • @palimelodies793
      @palimelodies793 8 місяців тому +50

      Watch it, Chrissy!

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 8 місяців тому +33

      That nonsense for my dear friend James Pegorino...

    • @deathrager2404
      @deathrager2404 8 місяців тому +20

      whatever they are alex, the pegorinos bring in alot of cheese.

  • @TheRookie2467
    @TheRookie2467 8 місяців тому +92

    This reminds me of a Game of Thrones quote from Tywin Lannister: "Any man who says 'I am the King' is no true king". Power isn't about telling that you have power. It's about showing it.

    • @Benny-Fazio
      @Benny-Fazio 4 місяці тому +6

      Pegorino is tired… See him to his shinebox

  • @SoraFan23
    @SoraFan23 8 місяців тому +254

    The thing is Pegorino is desperate and he really wanted to be on top of everyone else. When things don't go his way he acts very aggressive towards everyone even wanted them dead. Just like how when Niko said how he didn't want to work with Dimitri Rascalove because they had history, Pegorino threaten Niko saying "Do it or me and you are gonna have a problem". This just shows how desperate he is for those to do his dirty work so he stands out. Of course if the player picked Revenge, Pegorino does find out that Niko didn't work with Dimitri, so as a result he lashes out and tries to kill Niko at the Wedding but ends up killing Kate instead. Again it shows how much he is willing to go after those who "double crossed" him and wants them dead.

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 8 місяців тому +15

      Pegorino reminds me of Admiral Greyfield/Sigimund from Advance Wars: Days of Ruin (even though the Peg is not as evil as the Admiral)

    • @starlaixystar
      @starlaixystar 8 місяців тому +2

      But Kate was stupid and annoying character and I was happy when she died. Jimmy did good thing here.

    • @user-nn7ct3hk7c
      @user-nn7ct3hk7c 8 місяців тому

      @@starlaixystarpsychopath

    • @Philipp3022
      @Philipp3022 7 місяців тому +9

      If you do the deal Dmitri betrays Pegorino which is super ironical as well since Niko knows best that Dmitri is greedy selfish rat + Niko knows that the Commision families have a big problem with the Russians trying to take over the heroin market. Pegorino dies because he refuses to listen to Niko because of his boss-pride.

    • @beingadeeb2345
      @beingadeeb2345 19 днів тому

      TBH, Nico DID Double Cross him fwiw.

  • @starman1004
    @starman1004 8 місяців тому +98

    I remember seeing the article of Gravelli passing away and was actually upset even though it was inevitable. When you have that feeling towards a video game character who wasn't exactly a good person, you know it was a well written character.

  • @quickchannel2232
    @quickchannel2232 8 місяців тому +79

    Pegerino is like Florida Jokers threatening to sue rockstar with 6 final warnings for making a reference about him in the trailer claiming that he brings them attention when in reality he's a joke

    • @danielvelaswuez7197
      @danielvelaswuez7197 7 місяців тому +8

      I agree and almost laughed at him wanting to voice act the character

  • @RKNGL
    @RKNGL 8 місяців тому +79

    2:05:30 Consigleres are actually one of the few ranks in the Mafia were there's a historical precedent of them not having to be Italian. There were numerous high profile consigs like this usually ones who were adopted or trusted implicitly by the Don. The Italian requirement isn't really as much of a factor as they report directly to the Don and technically exist outside of the mob's chain of command, despite their recognized power and importance to the organization.
    Edit: You ended up addressing this a few minutes after i typed this.

  • @OhyeahMrKrabz
    @OhyeahMrKrabz 8 місяців тому +108

    You know GTA 4 is a legendary game when someone makes a 2 and a half video on its lore

  • @hakshustletv
    @hakshustletv 8 місяців тому +29

    Niko was John Wick, he was sent on impossible missions and managed to survive, then his former employer attempts to kill the guy you send to kill "the guy" and he misses. Pretty much the same concept

    • @chris_player2995
      @chris_player2995 7 місяців тому +5

      nah he was Al Pacino in "Carlito's Way'

  • @TheMadeMan5685
    @TheMadeMan5685 8 місяців тому +71

    Also does anyone else find it strange that for a Liberty City family who is the weakest out of the other families on the Commission, The Ancelotti’s are mentioned a lot in the game, you’d think that Old Man Ancelotti would’ve made an on screen appearance in either gta 4 or TBOGT after his 2 Capo’s Frankie and Chubby Charlie were sent with the fishes and when his daughter Gracie got kidnapped.

    • @theportugueselegend
      @theportugueselegend 8 місяців тому +56

      That's the point. The Ancelottis, like the Pegorinos, screw up a lot, so they show up a lot and are targeted by smaller criminals. You saw Rocco and his uncle, if those guys are made.... well.
      My point is the Gambettis and the Pavanos are way stronger and working for Jon Gravelli you notice that. While Jimmy Peg is dealiing with small time crap, the Gravellis run politicians, can step on the whole Russian mob and are capable of bringing Darko from Switzerland in chains

    • @emilfrederiksen.1622
      @emilfrederiksen.1622 8 місяців тому +11

      @@theportugueselegend I mean even Fredo in the godfather is made. A lot of people being sons or tied to the mob by family in someway will be made even tho they have no business being in the mob.

  • @costello__22
    @costello__22 8 місяців тому +42

    Something that’s also interesting about Phil’s situation is that since 2000 the mob doesn’t trail your family roots back as much anymore, as long as your father is of Italian heritage you can be made. Keeping in mind his surname, his father is probably not Italian but this reinforces the fact that Pegorino could’ve easily made him without raising much concern or mockery among the other families.

  • @Moecinnako
    @Moecinnako 8 місяців тому +61

    I love the in-depth lore to this! It made sense why Peggorino compared to other mafias are weaker and are taken as a joke. It’s literally a one man operation with no strong support with just Ray by his side. These writers did a great job implementing the mafia structure tree and shown us the big difference of the previous mafias vs the Pegorinos. This is a great deep dive analysis!!

  • @Joke9797
    @Joke9797 8 місяців тому +41

    I dont blame Anthony. If my mafia boss was a scumbag to me id rat too

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 8 місяців тому +10

      Peg beat Anthony like he was his own son. Can anyone blame Tone for taddling? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @michaeldiaz6224
    @michaeldiaz6224 8 місяців тому +55

    Pegorino was the laughingstock of all the Mafia, a walking joke.
    And paraphrasing Marlon Brando's character in the movie On the Waterfront...
    Pegorino: "I could have been a Don!"

  • @Rares_G4H
    @Rares_G4H 8 місяців тому +230

    Interesting that Pegorino is based on Phil Leotardo who is played by Frank Vincent who is also Salvatore Leone in the 3D GTA. All I hear is Salvatore while watching the Soprano's scenes.

    • @jbatts834
      @jbatts834 8 місяців тому +11

      Wait but his whole back story and a lot of his details are based of tony, he even owned a strip club like tony. I’m confused how he’s based of Phil Leonardo, I see 0 similarities both back story and personality wise.

    • @theportugueselegend
      @theportugueselegend 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@jbatts834Nothing more than visually. Even then, Peg and Frank Vincent are generally italian looking, nothing more.
      The family had Soprano's traits, but are really based of the DeCavalcante family

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 8 місяців тому

      Not to mention Billy Batts (someone who was killed by Tommy DeVito) in Goodfellas

    • @Aurora-bv1ys
      @Aurora-bv1ys 8 місяців тому

      Only thing I see similar is both wearing a double breasted blazer on a mock neck sweater

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 5 місяців тому +2

      Pegorino would gladly do 20 yeahs in tha can.

  • @sonicyuuki2292
    @sonicyuuki2292 8 місяців тому +40

    Looks like there's a new reason why the Revenge ending is canon. Why would anyone work with Dimitri, a man who stabs people in the back, and Jimmy P, a mob boss who wants to be big time so much that he doesn't know what he's doing, has poor judgement, and has terrible leadership?

    • @oss8298
      @oss8298 8 місяців тому

      Cousin Roman wanted Niko to do it.

    • @jokerofmorocco
      @jokerofmorocco 2 місяці тому +5

      I think Niko would be more likely to listen to Kate since a woman can blind you and she gives more reason compared to Roman who just thinks about money

    • @Hari-kx2er
      @Hari-kx2er Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@jokerofmorocco Regardless of woman blinding you or not, it is against Niko's character to spare Dmitri.

  • @hashem6356
    @hashem6356 8 місяців тому +45

    JP: I know you got history with that Dimitri but we need to do this!
    Niko: So since you also have "history" with the Pavanos let us go pay a visit to them first.

    • @jonathanpapadax6064
      @jonathanpapadax6064 7 місяців тому +9

      He was becoming more desperate that he might have done that

  • @ddfdfufff9170
    @ddfdfufff9170 8 місяців тому +90

    21:34 I don't think Ray's the only one. We see him most of the time, sure. But because we work for him. And also it's possible that the guy behind peg in cut scene for Pest Control is the underboss. (He looks as old as peg, but he also could be just a soldier). Still from the game it seems that Phil and Ray are making like a half of family's money. Shows how incompetent are other captians and Jimmy himself, if he don't have a guy in his family who could earn

    • @Godfather9814
      @Godfather9814 8 місяців тому +14

      I agree, cause just like in the sopranos or better yet in the godfather there could easily be more soldiers and capos that are never seen on film. Cause like you said Phil and Ray are probably the top earners in the pegorino family that’s why we see them the most with Jimmy because they have a lot more say so cause they bring in the big bucks. My guess is there might be another capo or two running around in Alderney that we don’t see cause they don’t bring enough to the table to warrant pegorino taking their opinions. What I always wondered during one of the cutscenes in TLAD Ray mentions to Johnny that he’s got a boss that’s a paranoid wreck, and someone else above him with a brain like an artichoke which makes me wonder is there someone else that might’ve been an underboss or a capo that’s got a little more say so in the family that we don’t see

    • @doesntmatter152
      @doesntmatter152 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Godfather9814 I think Ray's refering to Phil with the artichoke comment

  • @rakinzareefislamsunflower5243
    @rakinzareefislamsunflower5243 8 місяців тому +33

    Ray is like a one man army. Though he is a scumbag, he is a good earner and he should have gotten more help from Pegorino. He is the only capo which was also putting pressure on him.

    • @starlaixystar
      @starlaixystar 8 місяців тому +8

      Ray is cool. I like him.

    • @Myon-94
      @Myon-94 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@starlaixystarwhy does everyone call ray a scumbag? Like he he didn't do anything to anyone

    • @starlaixystar
      @starlaixystar 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Myon-94 They hate him for stupid reasons. I like him.

    • @furynvm
      @furynvm 2 місяці тому +2

      @@starlaixystar Niko didn't even like him lmfao

  • @davidrosales5695
    @davidrosales5695 8 місяців тому +50

    Poor Ray Boccino . He was my favorite mobster but man he was screwed over by johnny and eventually his own boss. Thats sucks

    • @justiceforjoggers2897
      @justiceforjoggers2897 8 місяців тому +18

      Ray was just good at doing his job, shame he had to go that way

    • @Myon-94
      @Myon-94 7 місяців тому

      Why do hot guys need to pay for the mistakes of old ugly men 😢😢

    • @davidrosales5695
      @davidrosales5695 2 місяці тому

      @@justiceforjoggers2897fr

    • @ziggazaggar
      @ziggazaggar 22 дні тому

      honestly wish there were more missions for ray and phil in the game, they are truly underrated characters and it would have been nice to see rockstar take on the whole italian mob setting in gta 4 more

  • @Rares_G4H
    @Rares_G4H 8 місяців тому +65

    A 2 hours lore video is worth waiting. I have so much fun watching or listening them.

  • @kingash9831
    @kingash9831 8 місяців тому +58

    Okay
    So I basically watched the entire video
    And here's my take on this
    Jimmy Pegorino is not only a bad boss
    But also, a corrupted leader
    Always believing
    That he will bring change for the greater good
    But doesn't trust his associates
    And hires anyone who could potentially rat him out
    A real boss should be the intimidating figure that everyone admires and respects
    A real boss doesn't run away from a fight and pretends to be a big shot
    They take legal action
    And help the family
    Become stronger and powerful
    But clearly, he did none of that
    He mistreated Phil, Ray Antony
    But also Nico as well
    Nico deep down, knew what a total punk and terrible person he is
    And respected Jon Gravelli, because Jon kept to his word
    And people respected him
    Because he doesn't pretend being somene else
    And he admits or regret things he has done
    Also, great job once again Professional 👏👏👏
    For putting so much effort and hard work into this video
    And showcased another brilliant lore video
    Brilliant work 👏👏👏👏👏

    • @Muramasa1794
      @Muramasa1794 6 місяців тому +2

      Well said, great comment

  • @oliverpony
    @oliverpony 8 місяців тому +21

    Fun fact: in The mission pest control you were supposed to choose between either killing Ray or Phil .
    Ray would give you a big cash reward for killing Phil and phil would have given you a smaller one But it was changed possibly due to ray becoming an antagonist in Lost and damned

  • @eatsh1t
    @eatsh1t 8 місяців тому +404

    Professional, thank you for taking the time to make long form content on UA-cam, especially that it’s getting rare nowadays. I admire your passion and dedication to uncovering more of the GTA world despite attempts by UMG to take that away, we are forever grateful.

    • @TheTotallyRealXiJinping
      @TheTotallyRealXiJinping 8 місяців тому +32

      On god, long form content is the greatest

    • @NOXAIDS
      @NOXAIDS 8 місяців тому +21

      I agree. Nowadays you see more short and refried s***.

  • @landintant
    @landintant 8 місяців тому +67

    It’s crazy how the Soprano "glorified crew” was winning the war against one of the top New York families.

    • @theportugueselegend
      @theportugueselegend 8 місяців тому +16

      Meh. Just because the Lupertazzi's underestimated them a lot. And few people liked Philly. In just the last two episodes of the show theywacked almost all of Jersey, including Tony

  • @Nine9005
    @Nine9005 8 місяців тому +142

    We will be watching this TheProfessional. This may be one of the best lore videos I've ever seen on your channel.
    I am so glad that I'm your channel member for a year!
    It's a long-long road ahead until GTA VI comes out.

  • @PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer
    @PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer 8 місяців тому +29

    You, my friend, are one of the most hardworking VG UA-camrs of all time.

  • @princessmarlena1359
    @princessmarlena1359 8 місяців тому +10

    You don’t “want” to be a member on the commission. The commission should “want” you to be a member. If they tell you to join them, it’s an offer you can’t refuse. **somber mandolin music**

  • @sguper6912
    @sguper6912 6 місяців тому +6

    One thing that wasn’t mentioned was if you notice car in front of his house was the Chrysler but once Niko earns his money after a while turns into the Bentley

  • @gatewayofboredom
    @gatewayofboredom 8 місяців тому +32

    Also there's cut calls that give Pegorino a greater presence than in the final game
    Little Jacob would've talked about them and referred to the family as mascots (basically jokes)
    Also there was a cut call after killing Dimitri where Pegorino flips his shit and screams at Niko

  • @jokerofmorocco
    @jokerofmorocco 2 місяці тому +5

    I think if Pegorino ordered Niko to kill Dimitri and wiped out the Russian mob, that would've been enough to gain Gravelli's respect and since his family was most powerful that would've been enough for him to get him in

  • @StefanoC19
    @StefanoC19 8 місяців тому +16

    I'm still Watching the Video Pro, I need to say this... This video is incredible, you took your time you shouldn't worry, because the results are incredible. One thing you forget to mention is this. Teddy Benavídez is also an Associate of the family, if you check the LCPD record you'll see that he is an associate of the Pegorino Family. Ray had him killed by Niko because he didn't respect "The waste management process" (Or something like that). I used the same line that Ray used to explain why he Wants Teddy dead.

  • @valexx2651
    @valexx2651 8 місяців тому +33

    Another gem from TheProfessional. It’s amazing to see how much depth the writers put these gangs. I hope GTA VI has the same quality story as GTA IV. Anyways, I love your vids and the amount of work you put into them.

    • @JASNINE-THE-RICHTOFEN-FANGIRL
      @JASNINE-THE-RICHTOFEN-FANGIRL 8 місяців тому +3

      Gta vi wont

    • @emilfrederiksen.1622
      @emilfrederiksen.1622 8 місяців тому +3

      It won't you can't make games like this anymore it will be called racist and offensive. And Sadly Rockstar has decided to full on appeal to that crowd of people.

    • @yvespenaflor4610
      @yvespenaflor4610 12 днів тому

      GTA5 is a comedy compared to GTA4. GTA4 is more like Jason Statham movie loo

  • @jackchipper7458
    @jackchipper7458 6 місяців тому +4

    Just replayed, the game and realized how well written the mafia plot.
    Its full of so much symbolism and and themes of power and control and greed.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if that portion, was written mainly by Dan Houser. Really underrated part in his carrier

  • @TheElcollin
    @TheElcollin 2 місяці тому +3

    I like how in the revenge ending, Niko doesn't even feel the need to disarm Pegorino, who's clearly brandishing a pistol. No one ever treats him as any kind of a threat.

  • @randomfist797
    @randomfist797 8 місяців тому +7

    Forget the video for a second. The Prof is a badass. Pumping out long form vids, live streams, smaller vids. He cosplays in his vids. He’s willing to talk about all sorts of subjects while streaming. All the while being a wholesome, good dude. Keep it up Prof, there’s a reason so many people like you.

  • @thefeatheruffled
    @thefeatheruffled 8 місяців тому +10

    this video is just Pro absolutely roasting Jimmy P's entire existence for 2.5 hours. in other words, its pure perfection.

  • @kalkuttadrop6371
    @kalkuttadrop6371 3 місяці тому +6

    1:51:30 I personally assume he choose now to do it because he knew he could pin the blame on Niko and avoid trouble with Peg's loyalists or the 5 families. Same reason he has his men start killing Peg's men midway through a firefight, it's the perfect cover.

  • @Megumi_Bandicoot
    @Megumi_Bandicoot 7 місяців тому +10

    2:28:56 “Big Smoke was right, that people will atleast remember him.”
    He never got mentioned, not even once, in GTA V :|

    • @mr.andrew7820
      @mr.andrew7820 7 місяців тому +2

      GTA 5 Takes place in a different universe

  • @AlejandroAltamirano
    @AlejandroAltamirano 8 місяців тому +16

    In a way, Pegorino is like the Salvatore Leone of the HD universe. Both got screwed over and over time got more paranoid started to distrust their own guys. The moment Pegorino pointed his gun at Niko was similar to Salvatore pointing his gun at Toni. Both were very paranoid at that point they didn't know who to trust anymore. In the end, both paid the price for their paranoia and betrayal.

    • @therandomgamer18
      @therandomgamer18 8 місяців тому +14

      Those similarities are true, but there are also differences
      The leones were the most powerful mob in LC at one point and the pegorinos were always a pretty weak "mafia". And salvatore became paranoid because he was betrayed by CJ, while jimmy p was always paranoid

    • @emilfrederiksen.1622
      @emilfrederiksen.1622 8 місяців тому +8

      The Leones were respected and people actually feared them and Salvatore. Jimmys Pegorinos mafia was always a huge joke and was never respected by anyone.

    • @heavyglamrocker1987
      @heavyglamrocker1987 7 місяців тому +1

      Salvatore had a stake in Caligula's and even a Liberty City Mayor in his pocket, while the Peg, has maybe his house? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @therandomgamer18
      @therandomgamer18 7 місяців тому +1

      @@heavyglamrocker1987 exactly

    • @L1ghtJump3r_
      @L1ghtJump3r_ Місяць тому

      Behaviour wise probably but not for the organisation sense bc the leones are managed a lot better since they have more actual guys instead of basic associates

  • @TheMaleAlicorn
    @TheMaleAlicorn 8 місяців тому +19

    *WOOHOOO!!!!!!!* IT'S FINALLY UP!! CONGRATS MY MAN, THIS VIDEO IS GONNA BE SO GOOD!!!
    I am so proud of you man, you deserve all the views and subs you have ever gotten. You are one of the most passionate and kindest UA-camrs I have ever watched.
    Here's to many many more lore videos from you! 🥂🥳

  • @philipsalama8083
    @philipsalama8083 3 місяці тому +7

    At the end of the day, if you're visibly desperate to gain someone's respect, you'll never get it. Whether it's someone you like romantically, a friend group, a social class - you'll never be taken seriously if you're trying to get in with them all the time.
    Pegorino would have been far more respected by the Commission if he didn't bother trying to get a seat, and rather just focused on building his business in Alderney, and solidifying it as his undisputed turf.

  • @Aidel1011
    @Aidel1011 7 місяців тому +3

    Imagine if Mikhail Faustin survives that betrayal, he would've had Niko kill Jimmy Pegorino in later missions

  • @JordoTWFS
    @JordoTWFS 8 місяців тому +12

    been watching you for 6 years now man. Pretty sure you had just over 100k, and were mostly doing GTA Online content. I just had a really long night at work and i come home to a 2 HOUR LORE VIDEO FOR GTA IV??? this is a blessing. All the love and prosperity to you pro, your videos make my life a little better

  • @palimelodies793
    @palimelodies793 8 місяців тому +19

    We can't have Jimmy Pegorino in our social club no more...

    • @yacined4190
      @yacined4190 8 місяців тому +6

      i feel like i've been stabbed in the heart

  • @HAYK1L26
    @HAYK1L26 3 місяці тому +2

    06:52 the beautiful Irish accent from Packie, I literally love this part where he talks so pejorative about them "guido gangsters outa Alderney" xD

  • @ThatGuySarabia
    @ThatGuySarabia 8 місяців тому +6

    Jimmy forgot to tell Niko how he did 20 years in the can.

  • @keithhunter3033
    @keithhunter3033 8 місяців тому +8

    Holy cow a 2:29 long lore video on my favorite GTA game from my favorate youtuber!!! This is the best thing happened so far in 2024. Another 10x looper this is.

  • @goldy_on_pc930
    @goldy_on_pc930 8 місяців тому +13

    Bell calling them enchiladas over and over is the funniest siii ever

  • @ultimatecontagion
    @ultimatecontagion 8 місяців тому +25

    I absolutely love the lore videos you come up with, especially if they're tied/connected to GTA IV/EFLC. They definitely do help me out if I have a question regarding something of the lore that my brain cannot come up with since I have ADHD.

  • @hzq-yg8bj
    @hzq-yg8bj 8 місяців тому +8

    Jacob's dialogue in Revenger's Tragedy doesn't mean that Pegorino knew about Dmitri sending a hitman to the wedding, they assumed that but it's not known for sure if he did or didn't.

  • @redthewifeyhunter4034
    @redthewifeyhunter4034 4 місяці тому +7

    I would love to work for Gravelli instead of Pegorino.

  • @brontiago
    @brontiago 7 місяців тому +2

    You’re one of the best lore UA-camrs I’ve seen. There’s something about the way you explain things that really pulls me in. I think it’s because you sound like you’re speaking naturally from your own mind instead of reading from a script with no emotion.

  • @lazuardialdi2646
    @lazuardialdi2646 8 місяців тому +4

    TheProfessional: Why Hes A Joke-
    Me: Just what Niko Said at The end of Out of Comission to PECORINO!

  • @andojo4747
    @andojo4747 8 місяців тому +5

    I do see the similarity between Jimmy Pegorino and Phil Leotardo but I also see Uncle Junior as an inspiration behind Pegorino as well. Uncle Junior was desperate to be the head of the New Jersey family but was never quite taken seriously enough and had a big ego. If you watch the Many Saints of Newark (the prequel Sopranos movie) it shows even more how no one took Junior seriously and how it used to drive him crazy.
    There's a scene in Season 1 of the Sopranos where Tony and Johnny Sack (New York underboss) have a sit-down with Junior and Johnny makes a comment about how he would never dare disrespect Junior and wouldn't expect to see New York again if he did, Junior clearly liked the comment. Sack was only saying this to stroke Junior's ego (which it did), he didn't actually see Junior as much of a threat at all, he respected Tony more. I could just imagine the Pavanos or someone like Jon Gravelli saying something like this to Pegorino knowing that he would love it so much he'd let them do what they wanted on his territory no questions asked 😆
    Uncle Junior was also fixated on how his likeness looked at court and was annoyed at the artist for not drawing him to a good standard, this seemed to bother him more than the trial itself, his ego was so big! There was also a scene where Junior is on house arrest so has a "sit-down" with the New York boss and others over the phone, they're only entertaining him because it involves New Jersey but clearly can't be bothered with what he has to say, they actually finish the sit-down and leave without telling Junior its over, he's still suggesting things over the phone while they're not in the room anymore. Could just imagine Pegorino being treated the same way by the Liberty City bosses.
    To me, Jimmy Pegorino and Uncle Junior were very similar. Also, if Pegorino wasn't killed at the end of the game and reached old age, I could definitely see him having a similar fate to Junior, I could see him alone in his house wearing a bathrobe with barely any visitors, still believing he's the big boss completely unaware that younger guys are running things behind his back. This is just my opinion anyway. Great video! Apologies for the long post haha...

  • @SameerSharma04
    @SameerSharma04 8 місяців тому +8

    1:16:10 Dimitri is a fucking hell of an antagonist

  • @shackal2584
    @shackal2584 8 місяців тому +11

    Now I want to see an alternate universe where JP did what TheProfessional said

    • @Deadsea_1993
      @Deadsea_1993 8 місяців тому +1

      I see Pegorina just being a more arrogant and less intelligent Dimitri. There's just no way that he would have ever gotten out of his own way in any universe

    • @shackal2584
      @shackal2584 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Deadsea_1993 You just need to have faith. For example: Superman is good hearted man in one universe and in another one he is a tyrant

  • @lavagirl308
    @lavagirl308 7 місяців тому +7

    At this point, i think Pro would have been better off as criminal master mind than a youtuber or a cop lol

  • @lil-neutron1437
    @lil-neutron1437 8 місяців тому +10

    The wait was definitely worth it 😌

  • @AlphVA
    @AlphVA 6 місяців тому +1

    I remember the "pest control" intro cutscene, I was kinda expecting some crowd on the Pegorino's reunion... but there was only Ray and Phil, I was like "rly?, and just to announce we're taking one of them?" 💀

  • @MrWaifuTaker
    @MrWaifuTaker 8 місяців тому +6

    Woke up this morning, got myself a Pro lore video to watch!

  • @isaiahjoseph7352
    @isaiahjoseph7352 8 місяців тому +2

    Honestly glad you're still making these. Started watching them over the weekend extensively over the weekend with GTA SA and they've all been great!

  • @octanesweat7065
    @octanesweat7065 6 місяців тому +9

    Even Salvatore Leone was a better boss than jimmy pegorino, i guarantee that salvatore wouldn’t-be stupid enough to trust dimitri unlike jimmy pegorino especially savaltore paranoia

    • @zombiehunter501
      @zombiehunter501 3 місяці тому +1

      Sal would very much have Dimitri killed, most likely having Niko do it and steal the H to be sold by a more trusted man like Tony or Luigi. That said, not sure if he'd try to kill Niko. Niko wanted out, but I don't think Sal's paranoia would let him cut ties with Niko peacefully.

  • @RyanBright-wg1yk
    @RyanBright-wg1yk 8 місяців тому +2

    25:06 not just those guys. Remember the Phil’s sleeping with the Don’s wife & the rest of the Irish members, and Niko, robbed the Mafia’s money, and then Niko executed their only Capo. So their “family” just turned out to be Pegorino himself, two Italian soldiers, the world’s shadiest Capo. And two loyal associates. All those members on the board, 6 of them are loyal, half of the loyalists are made men.

  • @imjustacasual2813
    @imjustacasual2813 8 місяців тому +4

    The text font on the thumbnail screwed with my head so hard I read it as "Why pegging isn't respected"

  • @IS34PreteristForce
    @IS34PreteristForce 7 місяців тому +3

    Patrick, thank you so much for making this. You put a lot of work into your lore videos and it should be appreciated.

  • @coronelkittycannon
    @coronelkittycannon 8 місяців тому +7

    Man, I cannot imagine how frustrating it is to make a 2+ hr video just to have it copyright claimed.

    • @theprofessional155
      @theprofessional155  8 місяців тому +6

      It’s not claimed anymore I edited that song out

    • @UndercoverBoy833YT
      @UndercoverBoy833YT 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@theprofessional155pro tip, before you're making any lore videos and such, pls make sure you double check the area where it has copyrighted music and think twice what would affect your video overall after it had been claimed. btw love your lore videos pro ❤

  • @zali9657
    @zali9657 8 місяців тому +9

    I’ve been watching your Lore videos recently and they’re very well done and they all got me hooked

  • @birdyboy3483
    @birdyboy3483 8 місяців тому +6

    The guy who played phil from the sopranos is the same guy who played sal leone from gta 3, San Andreas and lcs

  • @musicallystoned7489
    @musicallystoned7489 3 місяці тому +5

    Two and a half hour roast video on the Peg.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 8 місяців тому +10

    Thank you for the video man. Your lore videos are amazing, especially if it’s regarding GTA IV. Keep up the great work and take care!

  • @hellzer6633
    @hellzer6633 Місяць тому +2

    Phil could actually be considered Jimmy's congsiliere, since that rank doesn't require you to be apart the family

  • @jesurenbnb
    @jesurenbnb 8 місяців тому +4

    I am honestly surpised that niko, phil, and ray, lasted as long as they did with pegorino

  • @zombiehunter501
    @zombiehunter501 25 днів тому +2

    Just realised today. Pegorino in both endings died to a gunshot to the face, right between the eyes. I think this is meant to mean that Pegorino was so arrogant, so narcissistic, so full of himself. That he was blind to what he had in coming to him, even when he was facing it with his own eyes. Even with cold reality in front of his very nose. He was delusional to the end.

  • @Sweezzie
    @Sweezzie 8 місяців тому +3

    Perfect timing putting this Lore video out, im just playing through GTA 4 again

  • @CoolDima09
    @CoolDima09 5 місяців тому +3

    27:45 why did you get an unknown phone call during that mission? o.O

  • @MrCorruptSteve666
    @MrCorruptSteve666 8 місяців тому +8

    Respect for this video, one of the greatest lore vids youve made

  • @ntrainr160
    @ntrainr160 8 місяців тому +3

    In the deal ending, Pegerino also made a stupid decision by going to the Alderney casino which is in the middle of nowhere to meet up with Dimitri. This is so similar to Lamar Davis when decides to do the deal with the Balla gangster in the abandoned warehouse. Both of them did not think something was up.

    • @linkskywalker5417
      @linkskywalker5417 7 місяців тому

      It's hard to tell if something's up. There's a reason why so often, people, even street smart criminals, are so often caught by surprise.

  • @Luka2000_
    @Luka2000_ 8 місяців тому +3

    When Niko said that Jimmy is a joke at the end of the game it felt so good because you worked for the real mafia for a few missions. He was just another guy who thought he was something and got what he deserved.

  • @bluesnake1713
    @bluesnake1713 8 місяців тому +4

    The only person that gets to deserve to be called "The Boss" is the The Player that becomes The Boss in Saints Row.

  • @KingGamer-oj7hn
    @KingGamer-oj7hn 8 місяців тому +3

    And the sad thing is that Niko was unaware that Jimmy Pegorino was going to shoot up Roman's and Mallorie's wedding, and Kate had to suffer the conseques, they should of made a happy ending just like in GTA 5, the Deathwish ending

    • @MrDomino1960
      @MrDomino1960 8 місяців тому +9

      GTA 4 endings are realistic , not everyone makes it.

  • @iverzonegaming
    @iverzonegaming 5 місяців тому +5

    so pegorino was based on salvatore... the voice actor hehe

  • @muggins2279
    @muggins2279 2 місяці тому +2

    Phil is utterly wasted on Pegorino, guys like him are what make the difference between a crew and an organisation

  • @fablez4086
    @fablez4086 8 місяців тому +4

    Your lore vids are my favorite for listening to while I lay down and can’t fall asleep which never works cause I watch the whole video 😂

  • @huellbabineaux7433
    @huellbabineaux7433 8 місяців тому +7

    2 hours 30 mins?!?!? The professional is no joke when it comes to gta lore

    • @TheMaleAlicorn
      @TheMaleAlicorn 8 місяців тому +2

      Very true... it shows that he NEVER click baits and finds actual facts and lore.

  • @OtherBarry4908
    @OtherBarry4908 8 місяців тому +4

    Jimmy should take notes from guys like sal marcano.

  • @tomislavvinkovic1955
    @tomislavvinkovic1955 8 місяців тому +6

    As an ultimate insult to Pegorino, you should have left out the word "other" before "Mafia families" :)

  • @thetragicpope
    @thetragicpope 8 місяців тому +2

    Bro, the stuff you pick up long after playing the story is crazy. It does make it more intriguing when you replay the story, though. Look for those subtle clues.

  • @DjowZDjowZ-de8xd
    @DjowZDjowZ-de8xd 7 місяців тому +2

    Pegorina missions had funny cutsceneses and dialoges.. 😂😂 and phil is solid .. i still play this game much .. unlike gta5 . 5 story was kind of biring after 3 times. Gta4 and its dlc is top gta imo ..

  • @kevinschofieldjr.9927
    @kevinschofieldjr.9927 8 місяців тому +6

    The Pegorino crime syndicate is a joke they have no Consigliere no underboss and only one caporegime and have so many associates what a joke of a family

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 8 місяців тому +2

      Even the Clemente family from Mafia 2 wasn't seen as that big of a joke.

  • @anthonym9977
    @anthonym9977 7 місяців тому +4

    To summarize: Pegorino thinks he's Tommy Vercetti 💀💀

    • @ntrainr160
      @ntrainr160 7 місяців тому +6

      Jimmy Pegerino and Playboy X are so similar. Both of them talk nonstop of how they are kings but yet they are way below in the food chain.

  • @KeshavKrishna-mq2se
    @KeshavKrishna-mq2se 8 місяців тому +3

    i request you to make lore on little jacob. everything about him why he is so friendly to bellic cousin. why he came out as one of the most loyal(or whatever word you have in english) what is special about him and niko''s bonding ..how jacob is so cooperative and helpful...is there something fishy thing about it or something else