Derby to Nottingham and Lincoln.
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- Up at the crack of dawn to get these empties to Lincoln in order to start the first London service of the day. Its an EMR Class 222 and it will eventually join to a second set at Nottingham to form a 10 car set. We cross the ECML on the level at Newark and the video includes information of that crossing being renewed. It includes maps (kindly authorised by New Adlestrop Railway Atlas) and we run back as far as Loughborough so you can see where we left the route in the St Pancras to Derby video.
Our son drives the train from Brighton too London and a few other places. He said when he applied to become a driver, over 1000 applied, and after the exam, only 12 were selected. He says the early morning shift is murder.
Yes, he’s quite right. There are thousands waiting to get on, it’s a good job.
Hi Don, you information regarding training, exams and competence checks was really interesting, I think that we (the travelling public) take a lot for granted when we climb onto a train and have little appreciation of the high levels of professionalism the driver, and other crew of course have. Thanks for uploading, a great video.
Thanks. They really come down heavy on trainees with 13 assessments in the first year but they monitor us with a combination of exams, observed rides and unobtrusive downloads from the data recorders.
What a wonderful feeling; to be up early and 'doing things'. Marvellous. Enjoy.
Born in Derby , lived in Nottingham, now living in Lincolnshire, really enjoyed your video very nicely done very informative indeed. Thank You..
My pleasure Allen, glad you enjoyed it.
This is great. I'm self isolating and hiding from the Coronavirus at the moment. To keep fit I've got an exercise bike. I watch your videos whilst pedalling and stop when you stop. Single Yellows means setting 1, Double yellows; 2 and greens 3. When you get a kick on I move up to 4 but can't keep that for long.
It'll get me through these months in confinement.
Haha, maybe I’ll get a breakfast TV spot. Glad they help keep your mind off the current situation. I hate to tell you this but most of the forthcoming Newcastle video is shot at 125 mph!!!!
Huge shout out to the train crews that make the early morning trains to London from Nottingham a possibility, very useful on many occasions 🙌
Much appreciated and agreed. It hurst when the alarm sounds at 01:30 but it keeps Britain moving.
This has to be some of the best in cab videos on UA-cam. With such detailed captions I feel like I can just learn the line from your videos! Haha! Thanks Don!
You can sign the route soon Charlie ;-)
Oh wow I remember the previous time the Newark ECML crossing was replaced in 2002/3 ish. I spent some time at Grantham watching the chaos that weekend and was amazed at how they expected the new crossing to last 20 years. That time has gone quickly!
Railway engineering is fascinating. They do some really amazing projects by throwing lots of resource at it. Hopefully those composite sleepers go the distance.
Re: automatic signals. Are there any that are fully automated, or do signalers have control over all network signals.
Thanks for the videos, I enjoy all your hard work on them.
Some change through the passage of trains over track circuits. We will eventually get in cab signalling which is really a radio controlled method of controlling movements.
Some signals are fully automated, and as Don says change aspect via the passage of trains over the respective track circuits; some signals plated as semi-automatic normally act in an autonomous fashion but can be manually replaced to red (danger) by a button on the signaller's panel/screen, (usually to protect minor level crossings when there is a slow or abnormal load waiting to cross). And there are other signals which normally always act as fully controlled signals, but which can be set to fully automatic, again by a switch on the signaller's panel/screen if very early in the morning or late at night, and the signaller knows that no diverging routes will be required for several hours. (From an ex-signaller). :)
Many thanks again Don for yet another quality cab video. I can only begin to imagine the logistical nightmare, getting your camera equipment to other colleagues from different railway companies and returned for a lengthy production process. Please keep up the great work! You are a credit both to TPR and the charities you donate to.
Glad to hear from you and thanks for the kind words. Yes, it can be a challenge and the editing takes ages. York to Middlesbrough coming Next.
Been on this line between Derby and Notts dozens of times. Brings back memories. Thanks
Years ago in the Southern U.S., they used to have work gangs called "Gandy Dancers" who would sing rhythms to keep every one pulling together. They would shove their long steel bars under the track, one half of the team on the inside of the track and the other half on the outside of the track. They would click their steels on the rails till they were all in ca-dense with the singer. Close your eyes and listen...click, click, click pull... repeating over and over moving the track about one inch at a time till it was straight.
Very interesting Michael. Yes, a lot of people don’t realise that the track can be manhandled in such a way but in the Uk they will often use long pry bars to straighten little wobbles out.
46:10 there is a similar crossing near where I live in the Netherlands. Difference is that it is a 90 degrees crossing of 2 electrified double tracks.
recently discovered your channel, you have answered several questions I had for a long time.
I assume "sleepers" are the beams the track is laid on? We call them "Bielzen" in the Netherlands. They also used to be on top of the ballast. they used to be made of Oak, Beech or Red Ironwood (at least in the Netherlands and as far as I am aware Germany) and kind of nice looking, now they are ugly and made of concrete. Old "sleepers" are very popular for use in gardens and playgrounds overhere.
Yes, thats it, in some countries they call them track ties. By the way my friend has a channel based in the Netherlands that might be worth a look - check out TrainsbyM.
I miss loughborough, I was born there and lived there for 27 years unti, moving to the United States, Loughborough Station hasn't changed that much.
You know what? So many people have said how many memories have come flooding back!!!
Once again, a superb and informative cab ride Don. You go from strength to strength with your work. Thanks so much for bringing such pleasure and education!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I have to repeat the fact that your rides are so interesting and fun to see the country with...and some of the stuff you indicated a driver has to learn and all the tests etc. it boggles my mind..i bet it helps to have an eidetic memory maybe? Thanks so much for the extra time you take to be informative as well as a good ride ..stay well from california
Thats a really nice thing to say. I wasn’t driving this one but the driver is really professional and his knowledge os spot on. Mine is quite good but honestly, I have to work at it. There is a lot to keep up with especially if you take it seriously. You can get away by “winging it” to some extent but if anything serious happens you need to demonstrate your actions very carefully so it is self preservation. I spend quite a lot of time going through the Rule Book and I was a driver manager and took loads of rules exams so I retain some of that too. Its a great job though and for the most part nothing untoward happens and I love every minute. I hope all is good for you out there in that lovely sunny weather.
Just discovered your Driver's Eye videos. They are superb, enhanced for me by the comments about location, routes & operational info. Many thanks, keep up the good work!
Glad you like them!
Another enjoyable video. Thx
. Has Loughborough Station been resited ?only my 1960s pictures of the GCR show the platform close by the GCR btidge. Any chance of putting the actual train speed on the videos. It was moving through East Midlands Parkway, wondering what speed.? Thanks in advance.
I’m not expert enough in that location to be sure but certainly the bridge is new. You’ll see it again from very recently in the next video out soon.
20:25 - The "C" Line...... What you "C" is what you get! LOL
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Part 2 has different weather. A different day? It's a lovely jaunt, Lincolnshire is my home county. I'm a Yellow Belly.
It was all the same day, it just improved somewhat. In fact the video ends where it does because the low sun spoiled the footage.
Another great video. I like the start where the sky is just starting to show a bit of light and colour, a magical time.
Odd that yhe wipers dont have self park. Even our ld morris minor had that in the 70s !
Do you drive all the trains in your videos ? If so you have a varied toute and traction knowledge 👍
I like early summer mornings too. I drive most of the 185s in the videos but none of the others. The 222s wipers are air operated and they park when new but after a while they develop a mind of their own!
I noticed that most of the line between Nottingham and Lincoln has a very low line speed (60 or 65 mph). Especially considering how straight and rural it is (I was expecting 75 mph at a minimum on such a line). What's the reason for that? Weight restrictions, perhaps?
We don’t always get to know. I drive trains over lines that seem to cry out for higher line speeds but they are mysteriously low. Sometimes it is the infrastructure (track bed) and sometimes it is signal sighting and sometimes it just seems traditional.
The "Up and Down Mansfield" lines are actually part of the Robin Hood line, at Shirebrook the track that used to go to High Marnham power station is now a test track for Network Rail
I doubt anyone would remember, but around 1993 the BBC aired a cab ride of this very route. However, it was sped up to fit in a 10 minute time slot, so somewhat less detailed than yours! :-)
The BBC try to keep up with me Douglas 😉. Joking aside, I’d like to see that footage.
Very surprised by the number of foot, UWC and AHBC on the Newark to Lincoln section. Are there many incidents on this section concerning these?
Not many but they do occur. Every crossing is risk assessed and Network Rail use various forms of mitigation. Of course people will take risks and every now and again it ends in catastrophe.
Hi Don. Thanks for a great video. I used to commute along this line from Lincoln St Marks to Nottingham in the 1970s on first generation DMUs. I would always try to sit behind the drivers cab and get the view out of the front of the train, so got to learn the road quite well!
Just one point: With regard to the red signal at Collingham, this was because the level crossing barriers are kept open to road traffic if the train is due to stop at the station. The barriers are lowered when the train is ready to depart. This is to reduce delays to road traffic I believe. If the train is not due to stop, then barrier operation is normal. There is a similar arrangement in the other direction too, due to the presence of another level crossing just beyond the station.
Hi Richard. Glad you enjoyed the video and I can relate to sitting behind the driver on the 1st gen DMUs. I’m fairly sure I mentioned about the barriers at one of the crossings but could be wrong.
Wonder what Don sounds like. I'm imagining that its like the video, calm, informative & gentle.
A broad northern accent so I’m told Eamon. I will be doing a voiceover on a trip from Hull to Manchester during which I’ll be chatting about my thoughts on the route and answering so popular questions. I hope it doesn’t disappoint!!!
I'm trying to learn the braking points for the stations between Nottingham and Lincoln.
It’s not easy from a video.
Hi Don. Is the double amber always a sign that you are catching another train up or does it also mean that the next signal could be single amber and the warning chime is longer for dbl amber?
Thanks.
Not being pedantic, just for info, we don’t use the term amber, its always yellow because the semaphore distant signals were yellow! The same warning is used for two yellows, one yellow, red or even a forthcoming speed restriction. Its not always for following a train per sé, it could be we are being slowed down to stop for some reason. Thanks Chris.
Lovely video. Very flat country side. Query. When the 2 trains are joined are there one or two drivers in charge
One driver stays with the train and the other will continue with other duties.
Hola señor,muy buen video,le pregunto si usted conoce una serie documental inglesa sobre trenes que se produjo entre los 80 y 90? Mostraban locomotoras a vapor,yo la miraba en el año 1995 en buenos aires,argentina por video cable en el canal imfinito...muchas gracias.
Hola.
No estoy seguro de cuál sería, ya que a menudo hay documentales en los trenes. Intentaría buscar - Docomentries de trenes tempranos - en UA-cam. Early train documentaries
Nowadays they take 2 meridians from etches to nottingham and then split them and they both go to lincoln at about a 15 minute interval
They change schedules in response to demands.
Great video. ☺️ I just subscribed to ur channel. ☺️
At Nottingham I still feel strange sitting in a tram on the very spot that the Great Central used to cross over the Midland Station.
Hi and sorry for the very late reply. I get that, lots of places in my area are sitting on old track beds that I’d much rather we’re still railways.
Thanks for making these. I particularly enjoy the notes and interesting features that a considerable number of other cab views don't have. The quality is fantastic. Please consider making more of these. They're oddly relaxing!
Absolutely Ryan. There are several more planned.
Why when trains cost hundreds of thousands pounds they buy a windscreen washer from the pound shop ?
Haha, I know what you mean, they drive me nuts too. They usually don’t skip so much on a wet screen.
Don't suppose it will ever happen but seems to me a driver should get a salary similar to pilot.
We actually don’t do bad and during the pandemic there were many pilots considering a career in train driving. Taking your point though, we get many more people on a rush hour train than they can get on a jumbo jet but we don’t have the same responsibility in many ways.
Watched yesterday on my phone, just to get the feel. My fingers are too big for the controls, so I am back with my tablet and stylus.
Tablets are better or even on a modern TV. Have a nice Christmas Thomas.
Another first-class and well-captioned video. Many thanks to you Don and your band of helpers.
Thanks Ray. They will see your comment.
Hi Don, great video again! Quick question? Do you drive for different rail operators? I thought drivers would be employed solely by one company but looks like you drive trains for a variety of them? Keep up the great work! Cheers!
I drive for Transpennine Express which features in many of the videos but I get help from the others you see. I was contacted by another company only yesterday which will hopefully pop up in the future. It’s the charitable nature of the railway as I give all proceeds to charity 👍
This is 1 and a half years old and I just found it now. Nice to see some new track, locations and different aspects of railroading. Thanks as always.
It was taken down for a period Michael which is possibly why you missed it. Glad you like it.
Another wonderful insight into something so many of us take for granted. Quietly hynotic, gently instructive - the very best of 'slow TV'. Someone once said radio's 'Test Match Special' is like going to the cricket with a really knowledgable friend. This is the railway equivalent!
Quite an accolade - thanks Ian.
That is a most unexpected analogy, but quite correct. I've listened to TMS since it began back in the day. I even made up a 'score book' which I marked off as play progressed. I know, a 'nerd' before there were 'nerds'!
Attenborough Station(15:34).... Hmmmmmm...... David or Richard?
I had to check it wasn’t named after him.
@@doncoffey5820 Could've been both!
Hi don a superb video and very informative. from what I have seen they are the best and most enjoyable. Well done sir.
That is much appreciated George, thank you.
nottingham>revenue protectors? do you mean inspectors?
Probably Bob. I’ve got an overzealous auto correct going on. Thanks for pointing it out 👍
Excellent job as ever Don, my thanks to you and our driver. Even 2 hrs plus flies by due information on railway opeations, termination etc,,as well as local points of interest. The one thing that did surprise me was I am aware of ECS movments but never thought they would be for such long distances. is this normal ?
Hello again Jim, nice to hear from you. Yes It depends on the facilities at the starting point. If they can be cleaned, fuelled, serviced and the location is secure enough to avoid vandalism, they can stay at remote locations. Often the trains work in service both ways but the first of the day has to be brought in. Its not so unusual in freight. A train might take stone from top to the bottom of the country then return empty.
Superb video again, Don! Thank you very much for your efforts, and those of your colleagues! Informative and descriptive as ever....
And thanks for the positive feedback Derrick.
Amazing to see that you reply to almost every comment. I just found your channel. I love the cab-view videos. I watched a lot of lorirocks777 in Switzerland. Now I can do some virtual train travel in the UK. Your comments are excellent and very informative. Greetings from Canada.
Thanks KB. I try to answer comments if I can even if they are negative because it’s feedback whether I like it or not. Glad you found us 👍
when you first used the wipers hell that made me jump.
Made me jump too!
I pointed one of my mates at your channel. This is his answer to the current isolation from face book . Thanks Don
in self isolation wanting to keep some level of fitness and retain what sanity they had.
I watch a real time cab ride whilst pedalling an exercise bike. Setting 1 if we're on single yellow, 2 on double yellow and 3 on greens. Stop pedalling at the stops.
So far I've gone from Derby Etches Park (05:03) to Newark flat crossing where I'm waiting for the 05:26 Lincoln to Nottingham via Northgate to complete it's reversal at 06:00.
Seen it above Matt thanks! I’ve warned him that the Newcastle video coming soon is mostly 125! He’s going to be fit when he’s watched it ;-). By the way, due to the odd troll, I have to withhold the comments for approval so sorry for the delay in coming back.
41:41 It's amazing Don how they found the £40 million for the road bridge/viaduct for the A46 (I was living in Nottingham when they built it but not for the rail crossing which would be more efficient for both lines
I don’t know how they prioritise such things Anthony. At the moment, the level crossing works and scheduling is the key but maybe off capacity goes up they will have to fund it.
Once again Don another great video, after watching this one and the amount of info you provide it makes for a great advert for young people who want to be a train drivers, what's really good about your videos is that I can sit in my comfortable chair and travel around England in the drivers seat and I live in Australia.
I’m pleased you found us Terry. I’d love to visit Oz one day but things will take a lot of settling down first I guess.
why have there been no new comments about this, despite 37k views, for a week? Very puzzling
Because I’ve not had time to approve them Andrei. There are a lot waiting but I like to read and reply to them all so bear with me 👍
Another great vid, very informative. Thanks for taking the trouble Don, it's much appreciated.
And to you for following. Next video coming soon.
Up to your usual high standard don .👍
Thanks Steve.
Found your site a couple of weeks ago and what a joy, so very informative. The journeys are very interesting and the lack of verbal commentary a pleasure
I’m glad you found us. More videos coming soon 👍
Anyone else have a mild heart attack at 12:25 🤣
I just played it back and it made me jump too!!!
I do wish someone would tell the good people of Nottingham not to flush the toilet while the train is standing in the station.
On a more positive note, didn't the day clear up beautifully? Sitting here on a grey, dark cold and wet December day, it's good to remember the summer we had in 2019.
I know what you mean about the loos. Most of the newer trains now have toilet tanks but the older ones still flush and no amount of signs seems to register with the offenders. It cleared up a treat Chris and the return journey on the same day is that run from St P to Derby.
Thank you, Sir. My old stamping ground. Thirty years in Lincolnshire. Travelled this way many times. Good to see it from 'up front'. Excellent vid as always.
Much appreciated David.
I have been working this patch for 18 years, with memories of trudging back to the access gate with 2 Possession Limit Boards hanging over my shoulder , then seconds after handing back to the signaller that 1st empty stock comes screaming past. I have just recently retired from SPICOP duties & now I just Safety plan for the East Midlands Possession team, but these videos send a shiver of memories of all the locations and jobs done along the route 👍🏻
I’m glad that at least you still enjoy the railway Mike.
Hello. I am currently self-isolating. Your informative and beautiful videos are keeping me interested. Thank you
Glad to hear it Ian. I hope you soon test clear but keep following the channel as there’s more to come.
Great video, Don! I'm moving to Lincoln later this year (from Australia), so enjoyed this ride to/from the station. Learned a lot of interesting rail stuff, too. Subscribed!
Glad you found us 👍
Your videos are among the best. I really appreciate the explanations and comments. They add to my understanding and enjoyment.!
Surely you mean the best? Haha, only kidding, I’m very flattered by your comment.
Thanks for another great video.
The added information is the icing on top.
I really like the info for the signaling for the trains. Thank you for showing the landmarks and a little history about them. Please keep up the good work .JP.
Glad you enjoyed it John. Plenty more to come.
This gives a little more explanation of what is meant by trains being out of position following industrial action / emergent conditions prevailing etc. Hopefully it will give some people the 'light on' indication.
Don another fine video. must admit its taken me 4 attempts to watch from start to finish. Just York to Middlesbrough to go.
Nearly there Tim. Glad you liked it.
An interesting video today. The information on the signals and gate operations were enlightening. Thanks for the ride, Don. Cheers mate.
Thanks Martin.
Sad to pass the site which was Trent station. Excellent video and commentary, thank you.
Watch out for Bedford to Earles, it goes through the middle via Toton.
Again, I loved it. One point, though. . . hooking the two trains together will increase efficiency due to reduced wind resistance per horsepower. Spoken as a cyclist who is very aware that power requirement varies as a cube of the speed.
It should do but when they measure wear and fuel consumption, it doesn’t support that theory.
what a nice route, loads of history. sorry don, just playing your vids while MS flight sim updates! taking forever!
Not sure I appreciate being second fiddle to flightsim Div!!! ;-)
Thanks don for a wonderful informative journey on a great rail network,It sounds like it's easier to become a airline pilot than a train driver,Is the big power station gas fired?,cheer's bob.
Thanks Bob but if I can do it!!! There are a few coal fired power stations but many of them now are fuelled by Biomass. Its a granulated wood pellet that has a high calorific value and a low carbon footprint.
You mentioned at the beginning about working all hours. I remember signing on at 02.10, after notices etc walking to Kings X stabling point, coupling 2 class 31's in multiple and then working the 03.50 four coach semi-fast parcels train to Hitchin. It was the unwritten rule that the Kings X Secondman coupled the loco's together and the Hitchin Secondman was to uncouple them. The Hitchin crew would then work the train to Peterborough and we would shunt the lead loco to the UP sidings and work a semi-fast passenger train back into Moorgate.
Interesting times Ray. That would be in the days of mixed traffic I guess where you might work loco hauled, freight and DMUs. We’ve just got the Class 68s but they are permanently coupled to the Mk 5 stock. Hope you are well and have a good Christmas and New Year.
Don As a second man I only ever worked on mixed traffic duties, never on DMU’s, although I did get to drive a couple of times, including HST’s from Bounds Green.
Prior to my BR days I passed out as a driver on the London Underground based at GOLDERS GREEN
BTW. Whilst at Waterloo early in my career I worked a test train (4 REP) up and down the main line from Surbiton to Woking trialling a signal information system. It would report the aspect of the signal after passing.. it for some distance. A prototype of TPWS etc..
I left the railway and joined the Metropolitan Police where I went on to serve 30 years. I came away with two medals, a long service and good behaviour and a QPM.
Thank you for the Christmas wishes, these are reciprocated to you and your family. As far as my health is concerned I had a triple bypass in 2016 after my 3rd heart attack and found out two weeks ago that two of grafts have failed with both of them 100% blocked along with others. Due to my age and other medical conditions they have refused any further surgical intervention.
Real crazy catching trains to Moorgate from Hatfield leaving a normal locomotive to catch a tube. Having lived up north all my life, I found it very cool all being underground. Though that underground system is bloody old and dirty.
As usual Don, another great video!!!
Not a route I have travelled on in over 25 years, but not too much has changed, apart from updated some of the signalling, revised track @ Nottingham & the massive re-working of Derby station.
Thanks Jason. It will look different again when the wires are completed I suppose.
May I ask that you go back to non-scrolling text please? I find I miss a lot of the picture as I’m waiting for the line to scroll through.
Its difficult Peter. If I use the fixed text more people complain. I’ve got limited software too.
I wish you a peaceful Christmas and a magnificent new year Don! Thanks again for an educating video!
Thank you Per and of course the same to you my friend.
Don Coffey your videos are excellent, bravo keep up the good work...
Thank you, much appreciated.
Great video and this was my teenage years haunt, can remember parking the car up in the 80s in the waste land that is now occupied by a phone mast in Trent Junction, great to see this from a drivers POV and the flat crossing at Newark as always been a fasination to me so great to see from the cab, was great to hear the crew laughing at that time in morning.
The galley was right behind the cab door at that end of the train. They were getting about a million breakfasts ready for hungry commuters.
Another good one Don, enjoyed every minute, though Voyagers seem to need new quiet wipers lol. Thoroughly enjoyable with the insights given
Not just Voyagers Russ - some are better than others but they do get changed quite often.
Supervised Market Harborough Station Platform works...... Derby Station looks good here although I have yet to see it in person. Great to see it all nice and tidy on the approach and beyond the Station compared to the tired and shabby way it used to look..... saving this one ... thanks for the post.
Excellent - keep up the good work Nige.
Thanks again Don & supporting cast, I thoroughly enjoyed that, keep up the great work🚄🚄🚄🚄🚄
Middlesborough next Peter!
Thanks Don for another informative video. Those early starts must be hard, but I suppose sometimes you are rewarded with a beautiful dawn. What a great debt we owe to all the people behind the scenes that organise our railways. Thank you all. I wave to any TPE passing through Ferriby in case you are driving!
I watch out for you and your sign when passing!!!. I might be coming through even more with recent changes to our work allocation but its also been mooted that I will sign the new 802s this year too so we’ll see what happens. Have a good Christmas and New year David.
Don Coffey Thanks for your good wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Safe journeys for you, and hoping you enjoy driving the new trains. You certainly bring much pleasure to all your viewers. Keep up the good work!
Brilliant from beginning to end, interesting & informative use of captions too - More of this please
Middlesbrough coming soon Swag.
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Always amazed at the number of level crossings on this stretch of line!
It happens a lot on these level stretches of countryside.
What's that gantry just after leaving Nottingham for (1:55:13)? It's not a signal gantry, it looks like a catenary portal that was optimistically put up in the hope that one day wires would get that far
Very observant Andrei. Its a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut but there are occasions when for some reason they can’t bury high tension or signalling cables under the track and that is a means of taking them over instead of under. You can get a better view at 29.29 going into Nottingham.
I'm Oaky with the "wipers" now:)
That was another "amazing video " Don !:) The"maps are a great help to me as I'm from "Cambridge, Ontraio, Canada"
That train must have had every seat filled by the time it got to London ! How many seats would that 10 car train have ?
When I was over there in 1992 one day I rode up to Liverpool from London, Euston then went over Sheffield and then down to St. Pancras.
What a dumpy old place it was back then ! :( I can only imagine what it is like now... :)
Just wondering when I went from Liverpool to Sheffield did I travel over "The Pennines" ? Just wondering?
Again Don thank you for sharing this with us!!! :):):)
Heyup Harry, nice to hear from you. It would have 504 seats in a 10 car set like that but you can get rather more standing. They have a “crush load” rating in the UK of 6 standing people per sq metre (yard) so you could probably at least double that in extreme cases. Yes, when you travelled the route from Liverpool to Sheffield you did cross the Pennines on what I guess would be a Class 45 and coaches. That will have taken you through Totley Tunnel which you can follow in my Manchester to Sheffield video. I’ll be dioing it again soon all the way to Cleethorpes on one of our express’s so watch for that one too. Have a nice Christmas Harry.
Thank You Don for another very good video!!
Thanks Theo. Have a good Christmas and new year my friend.
Both these 222's sounded like they had a 'flat' wheel. Is there a limit beyond which the driver can refuse to take the train, but signs it off as defective?
Yes - providing he or she can hear it (it may be well down the train). There are standard demarkations for speed. Over 40mm flat would require 20mph and above 60 would bring it out of service. Of course there are in track measuring devices (wheelchex) that monitor flats and feed the info back to the operator. Network Rail can and do prohibit the use of a vehicle long before it gets to the above limits.
Slightly off topic but couldn't resist. I recently read the following headline in the East Anglian Daily Times regarding the problems Greater Anglia are having with their new 755s. "Some Greater Anglia services restored - but Coffey calls for government intervention in rail crisis." Good on you, Don! heh heh
Hi John - I trust you are well. Yes, that MP is no relation or at least not an immediate relation. She pops up on the news now and again and in any case, the disruption probably roots back to government intervention ;-)
I live in Lincoln and travel to Nottingham before on this line. Also went to Loughborough on this route to see the steam locos there! Places are familiar to me. A simple question. Do signaller set signal to danger in stations scheduled to stop? Thanks for the video! Truly amazing 多謝！ 十分精彩 ☺️
P.s can you do a video about Lancaster and Morcombe area, my dad used to live and go to uni there.
Normally the signals are set to clear Jonathan but if there is a road crossing they will leave it until the last minute to keep the traffic moving.
No 'W' sign for the horn, and no use of the horn, before occupational crossings nowadays? Just seen the first of several such signs [with horn] at 50.42, after many other similar crossings ignored before then. Can you explain, please?
Ah! 52.30 gives me my answer!
Oh good, I try not to leave you in suspense!
Good ride ! A question concerning the 2 trains combined. Obviously, 2 trains will have a minimum of 2 power units. As I am somewhat unfamiliar with British locomotive/train classes, do these trains have a power unit on each end, and if so, are they both powered during the trip? Also, when the trains are combined, are all power units utilized?
By the way, good to see a video from you, as it's been a while.
Thanks Richard - I’m working on the next one starting this coming week. Those trains have an engine on every vehicle each rated at 750HP. With 10 vehicles that is of course 7500HP but the ratio remains the same so any improvements in acceleration are only due to more wheels giving better traction.
Hi Don,
At 51:30, there's a series of level crossings and I wonder where this is. Randomly looking on an old OS Map I remember seeing a line where it appears a road or lane zigzags across it an using multiple level crossing to link those section. Im just wondering if that was it.
As for the rail over rail crossing, this isn't a preferred solution because of the increased wear caused by the impact of the wheel on the rail head edges at such a sharp angle. Here its a combination of cost saving (no bridge) and space saving (no double junction or conventional cross over). Thats why they're quite rare. They do work well but the maintenance schedule most definitely cannot be skimped on these at all.
All the crossings are named in the video so you should be able to easily find them between Nottingham and Lincoln. Yes that crossing is far from ideal and there have been may plans for grade separation and a bridge but so far no money has been allocated.
You had mentioned driver training in this clip Don and i'm guessing this applies to signallers too which brings me to tell you a story about a derailment that should not have happened it was at Connington South i think the place is called. After the said derailment of the 22.30 Kings Cross- Edinburgh on either March or May The 5th 1967 the signaller on duty was jailed for two years for the willful neglect of his duties. Having returned the home signal to danger when the train was within four feet of the signal he then opened the points before the electric circuits locked them. Even though the 11 coach train was running at 75mph the speed at which the signaller worked to obviate the safety devices was sufficient to cause the rear four coaches to leave the rails. A sad story indeed but from what i heard thankfully no deaths. But another brilliant clip you put together Don.
Thanks Craig. There are many harrowing stories of accidents through the ages and thankfully each one adds a bit more case history that makes our railway very safe these days.
Blimey that 150 gotta be summat wrong...smoking really bad lol 21:03 Didnt we cross thaL route via the ECML in the St Pancras \ Derby vid a while back ?...sure we did. on left at 1:01:20 that an old line route?....also 2 sensors are for closing auto x ings or tell operator to close them?..I forget...sry to be a pain sweetcorn and cabbages or lettuce everywhere good
Heyup Russ, good to hear from you. The Cummins engines in those 15Xs lay on their side and tend to accumulate oil and diesel when idling. It soon clears when they take power. Yes, we crossed the junction, I showed a clip as reminder! That certainly looks like an old trackbed but a quick look at various historic maps suggests it was new a railway but an old culvert/dyke. Most crossings close automatically but they do sometimes sound an annunciator in a manned crossing. Have a good Christmas and New year Russ.
Very knowledgeable you are Don. Thanks for sharing. Too bad you cannot film beyond Loughborough station due to too much sunlight. Maybe on a cloudy day you could film the route beyond this particular station as the video would then be of good quality. Oh well, I definitely look forward to your upcoming next video.
Yes, maybe I’ll get back over it Anmol but you can of course see the northbound service on this channel.
Hi Don! Great video.
I was a bit confused at the very beginning, that you wound up in that dead end. Is that called Chaddesden Sidings?
And then back to the station which you must have come thru to get out of Etches Park. TIA. :)
Yes, thats it Ken, the Depot is on the wrong side of the station so that move puts it right.
222 on a 2 hour vid could have stretched it to 2hr 22 min don lol....Been looking forwards to a Mr Coffey production....not dssaopointed...coffee on plz missus he he love the 22 series reminds me of a mini hst sounds similar too... I applaud Network Rail using the old locos...good to see....noticed early on the distant yellow change to green as the train ahead left the next section,just before the yellows telling us to slow...
I never thought of that but if I set that as a standard, my Class 802 vid coming next year will use some memory ;-). I was in Japan in November so didn’t get much time and since then, been working solid to try and ease some of this Northern rail chaos. We see the signals stepping up in front very often and the passengers are quite oblivious inside. As I often say “moving passengers are happy passengers!"
Brilliant brought back some memories fifty years ago exactly in December travelled up and down this line regularly for six weeks Newark station the destination for what was the nearest to number Seven school of recruit training RAF Swinderby I and thousands of others over time long closed down and now a large housing and industrial estate called Witham St Hughes.
Yes my sister in law was there a few years ago. She ended up at Cottismore and Marham later.