SCP-3052 - Living Stick Figure - Disturbed

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  • Опубліковано 2 лют 2025

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  • @johntaylor7029
    @johntaylor7029 7 місяців тому +705

    You know, it's kinda nice that Stickman gets therapy and hobbies to help him out.
    Poor little dude is going through a lot.

    • @idk_whyi
      @idk_whyi 7 місяців тому +9

      Yaaah

    • @KatieSandell-o2o
      @KatieSandell-o2o 7 місяців тому +22

      Yeah, poor little guy needs all the help he could get

    • @Xanchezz5a5
      @Xanchezz5a5 7 місяців тому +13

      and the guy who created him been through a lot as well or even worse

    • @idk_whyi
      @idk_whyi 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Xanchezz5a5 yh

    • @lexacutable
      @lexacutable 7 місяців тому +5

      you wouldn't know it from the thumbnail though

  • @PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings
    @PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings 7 місяців тому +373

    This is a reminder to appreciate the animators behind our favorite shows, animes, movies, and cartoons that we’ve grown up over the years. This also includes/goes to the people here on UA-cam who do this as a part of their job (or hobby if they so choose to call it) and do this in order to help pay the bills, keep clothes on their backs, and more!! Take the time out of your day (from thinking, watching, or commenting) to acknowledge them! It’ll make their day a whole lot better and give them a little more morale boost, encouragement, and energy to do it all over again the next day!

    • @JadeKitsuneuwu
      @JadeKitsuneuwu 7 місяців тому +15

      I’m a small animator and i really do appreciate the support, thank you!
      animating is hard though, that’s why I rarely do it, but I feel like I shouldn’t give up

    • @InfinityHell666
      @InfinityHell666 7 місяців тому +14

      Everyone should give All animators a huge pat on the back
      Classical/2D Animation: You have to draw the same character over and over again
      Stop Motion: Move The Character, take An image, millions of times, Just As Time Consuming.
      CGI: Highly Technical and Takes Years To Render.

    • @TrueLadyEvilChan
      @TrueLadyEvilChan 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@InfinityHell666Yea, plus pixel animations can take a long time too!

    • @InfinityHell666
      @InfinityHell666 7 місяців тому

      @@TrueLadyEvilChan That kind of falls into the 2D/CGI Category in my opinion, but thanks for reminding me of that. And that now reminds me of the Importance of Old CGI/Pixel Art, where it was really heavy technical due to it being done entirely in written Code languages, you couldn't preview the Animation, And rendering was a mess(i think those were the hardships at the time).

    • @flarethefox1779
      @flarethefox1779 7 місяців тому +1

      aye another wof fan

  • @Foxtrot-51
    @Foxtrot-51 7 місяців тому +307

    Wow, this SCP is depressing... Yet pretty hopeful at the same time, hopefully it can recover.

  • @Reikotsu
    @Reikotsu 7 місяців тому +171

    “What is my purpose?”. To suffer. What a depressing SCP.

  • @JaqenHghar.
    @JaqenHghar. 7 місяців тому +85

    Poor little guy. I think they should show him the videos and help him understand hes not at fault but i aslo can see why they arent sure about it. If he saw the things that are constantly surrounding him it might terrify him into insanity

  • @kalsarikannit9587
    @kalsarikannit9587 7 місяців тому +108

    Protect the lil guy at all costs!

  • @Foxtrot-51
    @Foxtrot-51 7 місяців тому +419

    This may be slighty different from what you usually do, BUT, would you guys ever do something like a QnA video, like how the channel started & when you discovered the SCP universe, etc...? Please? Maybe it could even be done "in character" as Dr. Bob himself.

    • @ThrillSeeker3524
      @ThrillSeeker3524 7 місяців тому +10

      Or one of those videos where he posts our questions and suggestions

    • @sincminc
      @sincminc 7 місяців тому +24

      A Dr. Bob origin story would be absolutely amazing!!!

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter 7 місяців тому +4

      I just want to know the story of bob got the info for sunken child permimeter, friggin probably had to engage in the dangerous art of M a t h homework to get that.

    • @DreadPirateRobertz
      @DreadPirateRobertz 7 місяців тому

      @@Foxtrot-51 he doesn't read this shit little fella. I wouldn't either tbh.

    • @Foxtrot-51
      @Foxtrot-51 7 місяців тому +10

      ​​@@DreadPirateRobertzHow'd you @ me, when i didn't even have a comment to reply to yet. Also he does sometimes reply, & may even read occasionally; for example on the video covering SCP-906 "Legend of The Scouring Hive" he replied to a comment that I myself left, its even pinned. He does interact with his community.

  • @thomaswateren3967
    @thomaswateren3967 7 місяців тому +66

    Heh I think this stick figure became the most adorable SCP to me when it laid on it's non existing belly drawing stuf on the bed.

  • @Alexis_682
    @Alexis_682 7 місяців тому +206

    "Honey, wake up. Dr. Bob uploaded"

    • @XxAlyyyxX
      @XxAlyyyxX 7 місяців тому +3

      "Sweetie, it's 3 AM.. **yawn** I don't want sleep paralysis tonight"

    • @Humaid2o7
      @Humaid2o7 7 місяців тому +1

      Oof💀

    • @shinobi6497
      @shinobi6497 7 місяців тому +1

      “Eh, he does that often”
      “It’s not a long reupload of old videos”
      “Ok I’m up”

    • @v_lad8559
      @v_lad8559 7 місяців тому

      Don’t worry honey, I watched it before I fell asleep, you’re the one that’s late. :p

    • @grbbsc
      @grbbsc 6 місяців тому

      NPC comment

  • @killjoy197
    @killjoy197 7 місяців тому +142

    Suggested cross test: SCP-999 (the tickle monster) to help deal with psychological issues. SCP-343 (God) to answer questions and bring a feeling of comfort.

    • @theffects9545
      @theffects9545 6 місяців тому +17

      Scp 999 is always needed.

    • @therubberniton2170
      @therubberniton2170 6 місяців тому +7

      @@theffects9545 sometimes i wanna become a researcher just for 999

    • @theffects9545
      @theffects9545 6 місяців тому +2

      @@therubberniton2170 research my guy, research.

    • @SuperNovaPlayz
      @SuperNovaPlayz 5 місяців тому +1

      W COMMENT W'S IN THE CHAT

    • @basicanimotor
      @basicanimotor Місяць тому

      Maybe need some loud music.

  • @nivekv-halla4752
    @nivekv-halla4752 7 місяців тому +36

    @16:09 That shift where they show transition from night to Morning. Implies how long they've been have that session.Those little details are awesome....

  • @ZeeAzman
    @ZeeAzman 6 місяців тому +13

    This is so wholesome.. and a really lovely metaphor for anyone going through mental health struggles of their own

    • @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay
      @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay 3 місяці тому

      I like to think the stick man should watch Thomas Sanders videos, I think it'll help him out tremendously especially the one about Anxiety and how to cope with it

  • @Cpt.Masami
    @Cpt.Masami 6 місяців тому +34

    7:15 oh my, I just noticed Fritz the cat poster😳Dr.Bob has good taste in movies

    • @jisazuramee1006
      @jisazuramee1006 6 місяців тому +2

      First thing I noticed was the dog poster at 1:17 why on earth did he decide to give her chest cannons? 🤣

  • @Bulbasaur617
    @Bulbasaur617 7 місяців тому +51

    Who would've known there's another tragic SCP living drawing here. This reminds me of SCP 085/Cassie. Only this is more depressing in a way.
    This stick figure has been filled with its' creators sad, doubts, and depression in a way. Not only that, its haunted by the voices and haunting creatures their creator drew in the picture too. So now it's sadly stuck with them forever. Unless they find a way to get rid of them. At least they're getting the help they need as they live their life at a SCp facility.
    Fantastic job covering this SCP. Keep up the great work and take care!

    • @Svyatocoin
      @Svyatocoin 6 місяців тому +3

      We can try erase them 'cause it's a Drawing there are special pens that can be erased with special erasers called "pen erasers" so if we erase them then Stickman will not be bullied by SCP-3052-2 right?

  • @lcbtaxconsultingsl
    @lcbtaxconsultingsl 7 місяців тому +140

    19:06
    IS NOBODY GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DRAWING ON THE WALL 💀

  • @taylor3621
    @taylor3621 3 місяці тому +5

    The fact that this community can make something like this out of a stick figure shows just how much imagination there is

  • @joshyboy9804
    @joshyboy9804 7 місяців тому +26

    Alan Becker should consider adopting SCP-3052-1. I'm sure the Second Coming and his friends would love to have him.

    • @Geheimnis-c2e
      @Geheimnis-c2e 4 місяці тому +3

      yknow I think this is a reference to Alan Becker and self-doubt.

    • @ahmedaliyu1495
      @ahmedaliyu1495 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes

  • @Musa-f7y2r
    @Musa-f7y2r 7 місяців тому +193

    >Your mood is bad
    >You draw when your mood is bad
    top 10 mental illness drawings :
    #1- the Drawing is alive, *and mentally ill*

  • @HippieInHeart
    @HippieInHeart 4 місяці тому +2

    That's pretty cool. Seems like the author of this scp was inspired by the whole animator vs animation thing and put a really nice and unique twist on it to transform the whole concept into an entirely new thing. I always like it when people are actually inspired by other art and create their own unique versions of it, instead of just more or less copying what's already there, so, really nice one.

  • @chikitabowow
    @chikitabowow 7 місяців тому +9

    Ngl this morning i didn't think today would involve feeling sad for a fictional living stick figure

  • @skyhunt9595
    @skyhunt9595 7 місяців тому +81

    Definition of our human natures. Theres a good who encouraging us, also a bad ones who hates and blaming us for everything we done.

  • @Archihap
    @Archihap 2 місяці тому +1

    Aww.. Poor baby... I just want to give 3052-1 a hug!

  • @captainyossarian388
    @captainyossarian388 3 місяці тому +1

    Another uplifting SCP. I treasure these.

  • @ShiaTheBunnyGirl
    @ShiaTheBunnyGirl Місяць тому +1

    This scp is actually fascinating I want to protect it at all costs

  • @jvanimation9520
    @jvanimation9520 6 місяців тому +4

    Oh, poor guy. It’s always the most talented ones who unintentionally take their own lives via anti depressants. He could have just posted his work online on a Patreon page. If I met the animator who manifested this SCP…I would extend my hand to him and offer my friendship to him.
    “You make cartoons come to life?…I make cartoons come to life too…we have so much to discuss.”
    Rest in power Animator.

  • @pikanachuster4032
    @pikanachuster4032 7 місяців тому +10

    I love the little details in this. The style of the animators' other creations, the art of the scp and its inner demons, playstick, it's all sooo good. Wonderful work!!!

  • @michaelgoldsby2994
    @michaelgoldsby2994 7 місяців тому +16

    This is honestly so sad. Having little stickman deal with something like this forever.

  • @IFreakingLoveYapping
    @IFreakingLoveYapping 6 місяців тому +4

    SCP-3052 sounds like a chill dude ngl

  • @steampunkburrito
    @steampunkburrito 7 місяців тому +12

    a Fritz the cat and heavy metal poster on his walls? A man of good taste.

  • @garg4531
    @garg4531 6 місяців тому +10

    The poor guy exists and was created only to suffer and be tormented… I suppose we can all relate in a way
    (Also I love that the first plant he’s given is a peace lily!
    A very recognizable species and apparently a very popular house plant. I actually have some that have been with us for over a decade and have done well with very minimal care)
    Edit: I really hope that he gets to feel better

  • @Huffmaniac
    @Huffmaniac 2 місяці тому +1

    I love friendly SCPs with stories more than the ones that just kill you for no reason

  • @zeilouswolf
    @zeilouswolf 3 місяці тому +1

    i cannot overstate my appreciation for the plant update. long live the plant.

  • @chilljelloton2089
    @chilljelloton2089 6 місяців тому +23

    they should give the guy a sink with running water so he can fill his watering can by himself

    • @tmmawesome
      @tmmawesome 6 місяців тому +5

      They might not have considering the severity of his depression? Not sure if he can even die, but it could be a drowing or self harm hazard, I suppose

  • @Hollarite
    @Hollarite 5 місяців тому +2

    Aww, he’s so cute and adorable

  • @CombatFan134
    @CombatFan134 5 місяців тому +3

    I get the feeling that this SCP and the janitor being haunted scp would make good friends.

  • @pietrocavallo7955
    @pietrocavallo7955 6 місяців тому +1

    I honestly love these SCPs that explore the sides of mental health. I love this one just like I loved SCP-5056, they are depressing but also somehow hopeful and uplifting.

  • @MT-1231
    @MT-1231 2 місяці тому +3

    I love the friendly scps 😂

  • @graythepokemonartist6427
    @graythepokemonartist6427 5 місяців тому +2

    I like this little art SCP he is so kind and is getting lots of help it’s very nice to see

  • @MrTrixer
    @MrTrixer 3 місяці тому +1

    That was one of the sadest SCP that i have ever seen, I hope that he will recover and get a friend or two among the staff one day..

  • @wu1ming9shi
    @wu1ming9shi 7 місяців тому +8

    Man, this entity really needs a goddamn hug man!

  • @AshandDogs-2
    @AshandDogs-2 7 місяців тому +5

    thank you dr.bob this was a masterpeice crafted by someone a genius

  • @LordDiscord
    @LordDiscord 6 місяців тому +3

    I don't know what's more depressing, scp 3052-1s depression and guilt over inadvertently killing 3052 or the fact that 3052 drew 3052-2 as this dangerous monster that can't interact, harm or be seen by 3052-1 except for verbal insult.
    Imagine being a giant shadow monster constantly trying to kill something you hate and being unable to do so

  • @AalexanderAutisticlad2005
    @AalexanderAutisticlad2005 5 місяців тому +1

    I love stories or compilations from doc Bob cause some of them I can relate and I'm autistic myself and have doodle books and journals myself irl

  • @attunedsorcerer
    @attunedsorcerer 5 місяців тому +2

    This will be my new favorite SCP.

  • @Matthew_Draper
    @Matthew_Draper 7 місяців тому +237

    Oh my gosh this is my scp I have written this scp on the scp website

    • @Hinghee123
      @Hinghee123 5 місяців тому +22

      What is your wikidot account then?

    • @Hatsune_mikuxX
      @Hatsune_mikuxX 5 місяців тому +25

      ​@@Hinghee123guess it was a lie for attention

    • @bluntslt8023
      @bluntslt8023 5 місяців тому +7

      Very good SCP mate

    • @bluntslt8023
      @bluntslt8023 5 місяців тому +19

      ​@@Hatsune_mikuxX not everyone is like you and makes up lies for attention

    • @bluntslt8023
      @bluntslt8023 5 місяців тому +9

      I feel bad for the stick figure :( wish he could get rid of the dark figures

  • @TheMasteroftheDark
    @TheMasteroftheDark 7 місяців тому +11

    Alright my wife want's Stick Figure updates...How is he doing in therapy. Would he like cozy video games like stardew valley! She has to know how it ends!!! Best Dr. Bob Ever!

  • @tayohki4066
    @tayohki4066 6 місяців тому +5

    those crazy cartoon references were great

  • @latashadennis7195
    @latashadennis7195 6 місяців тому +6

    Can someone in the facility just give this man a hug and respond when they do I need to have this man happy it is my one life goal now give him a hug please

  • @Grendallmayo
    @Grendallmayo 7 місяців тому +47

    I feel like 3052 and 085 would be able to bond over their shared drawn existence and crisis.

    • @josemejias5656
      @josemejias5656 7 місяців тому +13

      I would like to see that, if anyone deserve a friend, it Cassy

    • @pq44animations56
      @pq44animations56 6 місяців тому +6

      Although Cassy might be a little jealous that a fellow 2d being managed to leave the paper while she is stuck

  • @analogsergal
    @analogsergal 7 місяців тому +20

    10:10 references another stick figure animation, its such a beautiful day by don hertzfeld

  • @StrikePoint2
    @StrikePoint2 6 місяців тому +1

    This is officially my favorite SCP.

  • @Malfuctionalkitchen
    @Malfuctionalkitchen 6 місяців тому +2

    Aye 3052. You are loved and you’re my homie!

  • @lexacutable
    @lexacutable 7 місяців тому +2

    I loved this one. didn't go how I expected, and the subtle twists and building dread... very well done!

  • @ForbiddenVoid282
    @ForbiddenVoid282 7 місяців тому +14

    Yess I should've known, never upset a artist cause just like this fella you can great a SCP. Gotta be more careful to never expose your thoughts while drawing.

  • @JaxsTheDoofus
    @JaxsTheDoofus Місяць тому +1

    The Fact That There Is An SCP That Is A Stickman With Depression Is Fascinating

  • @arthurmartin4616
    @arthurmartin4616 6 місяців тому +1

    It's nice that the foundation treats this scp fairly well considering

  • @iLoveRonaldq
    @iLoveRonaldq 2 місяці тому +2

    That’s so sad 😭 the stick looked so lonely 🥲

  • @gearsoverdusk7303
    @gearsoverdusk7303 6 місяців тому +5

    The little stick man : *I have no mouth, yet I must scream*

  • @JaggedBird
    @JaggedBird 4 місяці тому +1

    Those first 3 and half minutes are so relatable for any artist out there. Also pang? Oh god, since I started using C Ai and Figgs it's been following me
    GET OUTTA MY HEAD, GET OUTTA MY HEAD, GET OUTTA MY HE-

  • @bigtone1171
    @bigtone1171 6 місяців тому +6

    This is the guy that's on the boat who dropped the pencil down to SpongeBob lol

  • @AnimeDude00747
    @AnimeDude00747 6 місяців тому +5

    Dr Bob we are getting closer to 2m subs 🎉

  • @MC_Champion_
    @MC_Champion_ 7 місяців тому +17

    Can’t believe he put a doggy style reference in it and thought he could get away with it without anyone noticing it.

    • @Reaper_Rapi
      @Reaper_Rapi 6 місяців тому

      What do you mean? I didn't see it. Then again I can't see. :-)

  • @bluewyvern7858
    @bluewyvern7858 7 місяців тому +11

    Dang Dr. Bob, this is the best "BetterHelp" advertisement I've ever seen, and it's not even an ad. I will admit, growing or taking care of something such as a plant or animal has been known to help alleviate depression, especially if the plants bear fruit. Growing beans are fun and simple, plus they help to nitrogen fix the soil. Plus, they can be grow from the random mix of bean soup bags bought at grocery stores.

  • @susannavirtanen8124
    @susannavirtanen8124 6 місяців тому +3

    Love the Totoro-poster 🫶

  • @nekozimo
    @nekozimo 6 місяців тому +2

    thsi scp is adorable it needs a hug poor lil guy :c

  • @Molalocarbon
    @Molalocarbon 7 місяців тому +43

    Now i gotta pause my date with my crush bec dr bob uploaded, she'll understand.
    Edit: i got dr bob a new viewer...
    Edit 2: other than spilling water on my shirt, that went perfectly.

    • @darkball31
      @darkball31 7 місяців тому +2

      *crush* your cheating on me arnt you? no need to hide it just come out and tell me you are cheating on me

    • @Ghalaghor_McAllistor
      @Ghalaghor_McAllistor 7 місяців тому +4

      Watch it together with her

    • @scpj049
      @scpj049 6 місяців тому +1

      I am glad it went well, and more viewers more videos.

  • @k5elevencinc0
    @k5elevencinc0 7 місяців тому +43

    Doodlebob?! ✏️✏️

  • @davidhamlin5757
    @davidhamlin5757 День тому

    The Fritz The Cat poster is epic! Love your videos!

  • @dragon-w2d
    @dragon-w2d Місяць тому +2

    Most likely the artist who made it was a green type and didn't know it

  • @Richthofenweber
    @Richthofenweber 6 місяців тому +1

    Finally a quality video of Dr.Bob, I really enjoyed your videos from the start (of your Chanel), then recently I saw a decline in some quality, but now it is back to quality videos, keep it up Dr.Bob!

  • @vulsroyc3021
    @vulsroyc3021 7 місяців тому +3

    Aww I absolutely love the blue rose

  • @vulsroyc3021
    @vulsroyc3021 7 місяців тому +2

    Animation is spot on. I absolutely love the va. And something I love 😘

  • @ThrillSeeker3524
    @ThrillSeeker3524 7 місяців тому +29

    Who orders pizza delivery from Chuck E. Cheese?

    • @BSanford-vw8rd
      @BSanford-vw8rd 7 місяців тому +2

      😂😂

    • @ToucanSonofSam333
      @ToucanSonofSam333 7 місяців тому

      Chuck E Cheese is some nasty pizza

    • @slaydog5102
      @slaydog5102 7 місяців тому

      Its good.

    • @spookylike3335
      @spookylike3335 7 місяців тому

      Idk it tastes like barf or garbage

    • @jvanimation9520
      @jvanimation9520 5 місяців тому

      Obviously they wanted to use a more reputable pizza place but they didn’t want to pay the royalties. I usually get mine from Pizza H%$# or Little C$#@&*.

  • @JJDDCrazyDrive
    @JJDDCrazyDrive 7 місяців тому +5

    If my drawing comes to life, I would become it's best friend

  • @jayechen1562
    @jayechen1562 7 місяців тому +2

    I love your videos and perfect job incredible work and great art work

  • @vulsroyc3021
    @vulsroyc3021 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Dr bob. Wow. Thank everyone that Jesse says thank you so much

  •  6 місяців тому +3

    greatest videos

  • @robbmitchell7846
    @robbmitchell7846 7 місяців тому +3

    Playstick? lol Nice. Good magazine and activity lol

  • @uvveshlurvvesh6515
    @uvveshlurvvesh6515 7 місяців тому +15

    Fritz the Cat Poster 😂😂😂

  • @billyhatcher643
    @billyhatcher643 7 місяців тому +6

    i feel bad for the poor fella sounds like he could use some friends too id show him some games and stuff like that become its friend and hang out with it

  • @Cubicnoir
    @Cubicnoir 6 місяців тому +1

    A stick figure going through an existential mental crisis

  • @justinkendollrozinek
    @justinkendollrozinek 7 місяців тому +5

    The Don hertzfeldt clip❤❤❤❤ such an esoteric reference to animation.

  • @crimsonwolf9572
    @crimsonwolf9572 7 місяців тому +4

    Does anyone else dig the Fritz the Cat poster?! I guess drawing it accurately wouldn't work out too well on UA-cam noticed the hand placement.

  • @AgentWillie024
    @AgentWillie024 7 місяців тому +6

    This was such a cool story, i wish we could help anomalies even more than we try but our goal is simply to secure it, contain it, and protect it. Maybe we could introduce him to SCP-085, considering how similar they are. It'd definitely be helpful for both their mental states.

  • @jsloanhpi
    @jsloanhpi 7 місяців тому +2

    What a charming little fellow.

  • @accidentalgnius
    @accidentalgnius 7 місяців тому +1

    This was really interesting. The stick figure dancing cuz the plan didn't die was Wholesome

  • @Xilekai
    @Xilekai 7 місяців тому +1

    I love this little man.

  •  6 місяців тому +1

    yes doctor bob is great

  • @The_infinite_ikea
    @The_infinite_ikea 7 місяців тому +1

    i have watched you for years and I have always enjoyed it thanks for that

  • @amazeangelogames3165
    @amazeangelogames3165 7 місяців тому +2

    this scp is very relatable

  • @hunchbackgameing
    @hunchbackgameing 7 місяців тому +4

    i keep forgetting what day it is so when a dr bob video comes out i know its saturday

  • @picklerickstopmotion9703
    @picklerickstopmotion9703 7 місяців тому +2

    Dr Bob your awesome 😎👍

  • @loriearl2662
    @loriearl2662 2 місяці тому

    This Scp is soo cute when it comes out and moves

  • @Maxsteal_exe
    @Maxsteal_exe 6 місяців тому +2

    18:15 the fact that 3052-2 said all that yet 3052-1 wasn't shown no reaction dam legit me when a bully said that to me

  • @EthanWinters1987
    @EthanWinters1987 6 місяців тому +3

    13:02 hahaha "Playstick"

  •  6 місяців тому +1

    world's best stuff

  • @Kelyori
    @Kelyori 7 місяців тому +2

    petition for a cross test between this guy and 999- for science reasons

  • @EMi-n6j
    @EMi-n6j 7 місяців тому +1

    I wanna give the little guy a hug

  • @kamaleddineboudehari3838
    @kamaleddineboudehari3838 6 місяців тому

    This channel is just amazing

  • @warriorscholar41
    @warriorscholar41 7 місяців тому +7

    Ok, I can't be the only one demanding this gets cross tested with Cassie immediately, right?