Here's a Link to the VELIT heater: rvwithtito.com/VELIT 🔥Also, if you need Diesel Heater Parts? Checkout my Amazon parts list: rvwithtito.com/gear/HVAC
Awesome info Teto. I had a gas heater in my 1960 Corvair, a standard OEM feature from Chevrolet in their first year of production. That heater worked great, providing instant heat when it was turned on. It used a spark plug to ignite the gas instead of a glow plug. Subsequent years, Corvairs used the heat from the cylinder fins, like VW.
My '70 VW air cooled Westfalia had a heat exchanger on the exhaust. So it alwats smelled like exhaust in the winter. We had tondrive with the windows open 😀. It was all part of the experience. I wish I would have kept it.
Great video, Brian! The breakdown of gas vs. diesel heaters was super helpful, and your installation tips, like managing airflow and using check valves, are spot on. I always appreciate how detailed and practical your advice is-makes tackling projects like this a lot less intimidating. Thanks for sharing your expertise-it’s always a treat to watch your projects come together!
Hi, Brian and thanks for this great discovery- there is nothing like it on Amazon. I saved all your store's well-organized LINKS in my Amazon RV Upgrades list for when I can order the Velitor also using your link. You really do an incredible job, relaxedly showing us exactly how to install upgrades into our RVs. Thanks from everybody.
I did a lot of research on Gas vs Diesel when I chose my Rixen system and the one thing I kept seeing mentioned everywhere, is if you are going to run Gas, make sure it is non ethanol or it will gunk up eventually. I hope your new system serves you well! Thanks for sharing.
Yes. I've heard that too. But with a 75 gallon tank, I'm going to stick with the cheapest unleaded. A good practice is to run the heater on high for a while on a regular basis. It helps burn out any carbon. If you only run it on low, then it can get mucked up.
Yet again you've brought another great idea to my attention, as I'm living in my 2000 Minnie Winnie this winter. I'll be thinking about where I'd put one of these, to output into the ducts and use return air from the cabin. I'm glad to see a very good control panel on it too! Thanks!
If you're staying put for a while, you could just create a mount outside out of the weather and route the heat inside somehow. Other's have done it like that. Good luck.
@@RVwithTito The nice thing is I have really good basement storage. I need to check measurements, but I think I can put it between the warm air duct and the water tank, dropping the exhaust/combustion pipes out the bottom... I see they're on backorder, but I think I'm darn close to pulling the trigger!
Webasto makes a Gasoline version. I've had two Chinese diesel heaters in my 30ft class C for over 4 years now. I love them, they keep the RV warm enough full-time here in the Northeast.
Looks like the old wabasto has dust buildup on the blower inside. You need to have a filter for the air intake. Also if you have too big of a hot air run it will limit the cooling on the heat fins or in other words overheat the heater. You might have to install a booster fan or duct fan. Something to keep an eye on which I'm sure you will. Awesome stuff Brian like always. I'm waiting for you to come up with something for the Arizona insulation package that all RVs came with, ie R1.
The area near the LP heater where the intake is wasn't sealed up well. Multiple dust storms and trips to Mexico and Alaska has left lots of dirt and dust. I spend a while cleaning out all the dirt from there and I'll seal it up good. So that's what got into the Webasto. I'm going to tear it down and rebuilt it before reusing it.
Great video and very helpful! I am thinking it is time for me to make the switch to a permanently installed gas fed option instead of lugging around the portable diesel options. Time to crawl under the jeep and see if I have any good spaces to mount this and get creative on how to keep water from getting in when I go through deep water.
Or just remove the heater. Which is what I did when we sold the Class C where the Webasto was originally installed. One good reason to just leave the LP heater installed.
Nice work! You are always thorough with the mods on your rigs. Let us know if this gasoline heater performs better at high altitude and doesn't gunk up like a diesel unit. Might require some disassembly after use at altitude... Cheers!
@RVwithTito Have seen other reviews that showed major disassembly to service after use at altitude. Looked like a lot of incomplete combustion byproducts due to the reduced oxygen concentrations at higher altitudes helped by the additional impurities in diesel fuel. I'm sure they can be derated for altitude and "blowers" added for more complete combustion - like a NG hot water in high altitude areas - but that would add to the complexity and expense of such an arrangement.
I think a gasoline heater is a terrible idea because gas has a high flash point and if you must use it use a small metal line like a brake and better hose from a place that sells the high quality 😄😄😄😉😉 thanks much all cars have metal gas lines 😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
this was invaluable!!! the manual for the heater doesn't do a very good job with instructions! do you know how big of a hole I would need to drill for the heater to fit on the floor of a van? thanks!
You're really hardcore, Brian! When you get into tight spaces to show us how you do it, it really helps understand what it takes to get it done. Excellent all around product review! Loved to see a pic of your lifted CR-V. How's that working for you?
Glad to hear it. Yeah. It's a big challenge filming in tight spots. I'm glad it helps. Still loving the CRV with the upgrades. It has been a great Baja and boondocking vehicle. It's actually my wife's daily driver when we're home.
I would think any heater issues would be caused by low airflow through the heater, the fan is not designed to blow through the resistance of all that ducting.
Sure. To some degree, yes. The heater is also at a low point so all of the hot air is traveling up to the ducting. Overall, it now pushes more air than the Webasto did.
@@RVwithTito at least it will heat the ductwork which should somewhat heat the underbelly which should somewhat heat the floor, which is always a win…that was a lot of which’s😵💫
I was wondering, since you have more than one source blowing into the same duct, do you have some sort of check valve to keep the air from backing up into the device that is not blowing?
Here's a paste of a previous reply: The duct is angled forward in the direction of the airflow. It hasn't been a problem. If it does go back through the heater, it's just going to end up back in the same ducting anyway. The LP heater does have a flapper valve just past the blower. So that's shut when the gasoline heater is running.
Yes. The price is right. Options were limited when I purchased the Webasto. They've been around for decades. But when their patent expired, all of these other diesel units started hitting the market. Velit is the only one with with a gas model that is very close (better) than the Webasto.
The duct is angled forward in the direction of the airflow. It hasn't been a problem. If it does go back through the heater, it's just going to end up back in the same ducting anyway. The LP heater does have a flapper valve just past the blower. So that's shut when the gasoline heater is running.
I was wondering if you had installed a check valve in the fuel line to prevent the generator from pulling gas from the heater or if the fuel pump has a built in check valve. Thanks Very Respectfully Lance
That may help, but I don't have that setup. It usually starts up fine after running the generator. I'll look into it though and see if I can find a tiny check valve. Couldn't hurt.
Thanks for your review, but I'll wait a year for a less expensive version. This unit is still made in china like all the other $99 diesel ones, and it's really mostly the same as them -- just different software, a higher temp glow plug, etc. There's really no good excuse for it to cost $699.
Probably about the same depending on the heat setting. On low, the fuel pump ticks at a much slower rate. I've been running it for two days on low. It's maintaining 67 degrees inside with it being in the low 40s outside. Nice thing about the Bluetooth is that I can make adjustments from my house.
Is there a way, and wouldn't it be more efficient to run the air intake inside the RV? That way you are 'heating' warm air vs cold air from outside that can be 10s of degrees colder.
I've only seen these installed inside the vehicle, wasn't aware these can be mounted underneath. Can you comment on the whether or not you'd recommend some additional protection around the heater?
I don't think it's necessary. The heater body doesn't get that hot. The area around the exhaust is where you need keep it clear from the surrounding area. It gets pretty hot. A little heat shield material to protect surrounding things is not a bad idea.
I need a gasoline heater so I can run it From my vans gas tank for almost unlimited heat but I can't afford it can I get one somehow for Free especially cause it's Christmas soon ?
I can't say for sure. I have both a gas and a diesel one. They both burn pretty clean. It's best to run them on high periodically to burn out any carbon that may build up.
@@RVwithTito Even with the inconvenience of carrying diesel in a can, I think I prefer diesel since it is safer. Less volitile and less fuel lines. (when camping in a gas RV) I once had a gasoline leak on my Onan, made me nervous.
Does it have a brushless motor fan? The mounting plate is too thin, not suitable if there is some vibration on the road. Loom coming out of the heater not properly protected. Webasto much better at those details. Not really for heavy duty or harsh outdoors... Too bad HLN diesel heaters not making gasoline ones, would've been better for the money
The fuel pump is installed outside of the vehicle. The rubber sleeve helps with the noise, but you may still hear it pumping. You can also insulate around it to reduce the noise even further. The heater itself isn't really noisy if installed in an enclosed space. Insulating around it will keep it pretty quiet. The only noise inside will be air noise from the ducts. If you go with a larger duct or register, it will be quieter.
Inside the RV would be a terrible, to much noise, must be some other space especially in a class A, I thinking the old battery department (underneath stairs),and only the warm.air come into the RV
In our class C I had it mounted inside a bottom cabinet. I added a little insulation and it wasn't loud. Most of the noise comes from smaller ducting and registers. Larger ones cut down the air noise significantly.
Th cheap Chinese diesel heater are incredible and you really dint need to spend five times the money on more branded ones !! also I would be really nervous having gasoline instead of diesel !!!! if that sucker ever malfunctioned ? BOOM !!!
If installed properly you should be fine. You're vehicle's engine burns gas too :) Make sure the hoses and fuel connections are done correctly and you should be fine. The combustion chamber is fully enclosed except for the combustion intake and exhaust.
A fire extinguisher 🧯 would be a good idea the first time 😂. Why did you ditch the Webasto? I always say 2 is 1 and 1 is none. I can get gas anywhere but propane, not so much. I would love to put one in. Since I have a gas generator all I’d have to do is tap into that fuel line. Drill the holes and mount it. I just don’t have the space for it. Nice install 👍🏼
Thanks. Yes, I have multiple fire extinguishers. The Webasto was only rated for 4500ft and would carbon up at higher elevations and throw errors. Then I would have to clean it out. I tested it up to 10K ft. Plus it is a little undersized for this larger area. Upgrading to a larger Webasto is really expensive. This one automatically adjusts and will work up to 12K ft.
Here's a Link to the VELIT heater: rvwithtito.com/VELIT 🔥Also, if you need Diesel Heater Parts? Checkout my Amazon parts list: rvwithtito.com/gear/HVAC
Awesome info Teto. I had a gas heater in my 1960 Corvair, a standard OEM feature from Chevrolet in their first year of production. That heater worked great, providing instant heat when it was turned on. It used a spark plug to ignite the gas instead of a glow plug. Subsequent years, Corvairs used the heat from the cylinder fins, like VW.
My '70 VW air cooled Westfalia had a heat exchanger on the exhaust. So it alwats smelled like exhaust in the winter. We had tondrive with the windows open 😀. It was all part of the experience. I wish I would have kept it.
Great video, Brian! The breakdown of gas vs. diesel heaters was super helpful, and your installation tips, like managing airflow and using check valves, are spot on. I always appreciate how detailed and practical your advice is-makes tackling projects like this a lot less intimidating. Thanks for sharing your expertise-it’s always a treat to watch your projects come together!
Thanks for the comment Emily. By the way, no van yet :)
Hi, Brian and thanks for this great discovery- there is nothing like it on Amazon. I saved all your store's well-organized LINKS in my Amazon RV Upgrades list for when I can order the Velitor also using your link. You really do an incredible job, relaxedly showing us exactly how to install upgrades into our RVs. Thanks from everybody.
Another really great tutorial. Always look forward to your videos.
Nice job Brian as always you shine like a red rose and a duchion in the night. Brilliant!
Hehe. I'll try not to blind anyone 🙃
I did a lot of research on Gas vs Diesel when I chose my Rixen system and the one thing I kept seeing mentioned everywhere, is if you are going to run Gas, make sure it is non
ethanol or it will gunk up eventually. I hope your new system serves you well! Thanks for sharing.
Yes. I've heard that too. But with a 75 gallon tank, I'm going to stick with the cheapest unleaded. A good practice is to run the heater on high for a while on a regular basis. It helps burn out any carbon. If you only run it on low, then it can get mucked up.
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Definitely nice not having to mess with getting propane filled as often.
Thanks. Yeah! That's a big benefit. Once my fridge dies, I'll replace it with a 12V.
Yet again you've brought another great idea to my attention, as I'm living in my 2000 Minnie Winnie this winter. I'll be thinking about where I'd put one of these, to output into the ducts and use return air from the cabin. I'm glad to see a very good control panel on it too! Thanks!
If you're staying put for a while, you could just create a mount outside out of the weather and route the heat inside somehow. Other's have done it like that. Good luck.
@@RVwithTito The nice thing is I have really good basement storage. I need to check measurements, but I think I can put it between the warm air duct and the water tank, dropping the exhaust/combustion pipes out the bottom... I see they're on backorder, but I think I'm darn close to pulling the trigger!
@@MaCroCosmHD They may be getting more in stock soon later this month. I'll let you know what I find out.
Webasto makes a Gasoline version.
I've had two Chinese diesel heaters in my 30ft class C for over 4 years now. I love them, they keep the RV warm enough full-time here in the Northeast.
agree 100% . these are the best thing to happen for van lifers in the last decade !!
Good to hear. Yes. Webasto has a gas model, but they aren't as common as the diesel version.
Great informative video, Brian. I really enjoy your channel it gets me in DIY mode. Also, nice hoodie. Keep it up, and Happy New Year 🎉.
I just installed a chyna heater in my van, i wasnt aware of the velit.. i may swap it over, thanks for the review 👍
You bet.
As always Brian nice job I hope you and your family have a great holiday and new year ahead 😊
Thanks! Happy Holidays!
Will be interested in a long-term use update. Definitely would be a nice upgrade.
Looks like the old wabasto has dust buildup on the blower inside. You need to have a filter for the air intake. Also if you have too big of a hot air run it will limit the cooling on the heat fins or in other words overheat the heater. You might have to install a booster fan or duct fan. Something to keep an eye on which I'm sure you will.
Awesome stuff Brian like always. I'm waiting for you to come up with something for the Arizona insulation package that all RVs came with, ie R1.
The area near the LP heater where the intake is wasn't sealed up well. Multiple dust storms and trips to Mexico and Alaska has left lots of dirt and dust. I spend a while cleaning out all the dirt from there and I'll seal it up good. So that's what got into the Webasto. I'm going to tear it down and rebuilt it before reusing it.
@RVwithTito I'm pretty sure something like a K&N air filter will solve that intake dust.
Go for Eberspächer Airtronic - they do a range of petrol fueled air heaters as well.
Outstanding review.
Thanks!
Great video and very helpful! I am thinking it is time for me to make the switch to a permanently installed gas fed option instead of lugging around the portable diesel options. Time to crawl under the jeep and see if I have any good spaces to mount this and get creative on how to keep water from getting in when I go through deep water.
Thanks for the video.
No problem. Glad you liked it.
If you ever sell this RV,you have to give a week long tutorial the new owners 😅 lots of very useful update, 👍
Or just remove the heater. Which is what I did when we sold the Class C where the Webasto was originally installed. One good reason to just leave the LP heater installed.
@RVwithTito you have millions update,that's what I talking about 👍👌
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Nice find, please post if you encountered soot problem like with diesel.
Thank you. Nicely done!
Thanks!
Nice work! You are always thorough with the mods on your rigs. Let us know if this gasoline heater performs better at high altitude and doesn't gunk up like a diesel unit. Might require some disassembly after use at altitude... Cheers!
I'll definitely test that out next time we're up in the mountains. The previous one definitely had issues.
@RVwithTito Have seen other reviews that showed major disassembly to service after use at altitude. Looked like a lot of incomplete combustion byproducts due to the reduced oxygen concentrations at higher altitudes helped by the additional impurities in diesel fuel. I'm sure they can be derated for altitude and "blowers" added for more complete combustion - like a NG hot water in high altitude areas - but that would add to the complexity and expense of such an arrangement.
I think a gasoline heater is a terrible idea because gas has a high flash point and if you must use it use a small metal line like a brake and better hose from a place that sells the high quality 😄😄😄😉😉 thanks much all cars have metal gas lines 😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
this was invaluable!!! the manual for the heater doesn't do a very good job with instructions! do you know how big of a hole I would need to drill for the heater to fit on the floor of a van? thanks!
You're really hardcore, Brian! When you get into tight spaces to show us how you do it, it really helps understand what it takes to get it done. Excellent all around product review! Loved to see a pic of your lifted CR-V. How's that working for you?
Glad to hear it. Yeah. It's a big challenge filming in tight spots. I'm glad it helps. Still loving the CRV with the upgrades. It has been a great Baja and boondocking vehicle. It's actually my wife's daily driver when we're home.
I would think any heater issues would be caused by low airflow through the heater, the fan is not designed to blow through the resistance of all that ducting.
Sure. To some degree, yes. The heater is also at a low point so all of the hot air is traveling up to the ducting. Overall, it now pushes more air than the Webasto did.
@@RVwithTito at least it will heat the ductwork which should somewhat heat the underbelly which should somewhat heat the floor, which is always a win…that was a lot of which’s😵💫
I was wondering, since you have more than one source blowing into the same duct, do you have some sort of check valve to keep the air from backing up into the device that is not blowing?
I was thinking the same exact thing.
Ditto. My first question was if there was some sort of mechanical or electronic damper in the ducts.
Here's a paste of a previous reply: The duct is angled forward in the direction of the airflow. It hasn't been a problem. If it does go back through the heater, it's just going to end up back in the same ducting anyway. The LP heater does have a flapper valve just past the blower. So that's shut when the gasoline heater is running.
It's either blowing hot air out or sucking cold air in.
With diesel being a very stable fuel compared to gasoline, does the gasoline heater raise safety issues? Thanks
They’re going to blow Webasto out of the water! Price is right.
Yes. The price is right. Options were limited when I purchased the Webasto. They've been around for decades. But when their patent expired, all of these other diesel units started hitting the market. Velit is the only one with with a gas model that is very close (better) than the Webasto.
how about a one way flapper valve for ducting so if you run furnace it doesnt try to force air back through the new heater?
The duct is angled forward in the direction of the airflow. It hasn't been a problem. If it does go back through the heater, it's just going to end up back in the same ducting anyway. The LP heater does have a flapper valve just past the blower. So that's shut when the gasoline heater is running.
Your control panel, Bluetooth only? Or also Internet capable? (Great video, by the way. Yours always are!)
Thanks. Just Bluetooth but I can still control it from the house 👍
I was wondering if you had installed a check valve in the fuel line to prevent the generator from pulling gas from the heater or if the fuel pump has a built in check valve. Thanks Very Respectfully Lance
That may help, but I don't have that setup. It usually starts up fine after running the generator. I'll look into it though and see if I can find a tiny check valve. Couldn't hurt.
Have you measured the surface temperature of the duct work? I’m looking at doing this but I’m afraid the duct work will be close to the pex piping.
CO levels are much high. 7 to 9 with diesel. 200 to 270 with gasoline. According to Velit website.
Thanks for checking.
You trying to part with that websto ?
Thanks for your review, but I'll wait a year for a less expensive version. This unit is still made in china like all the other $99 diesel ones, and it's really mostly the same as them -- just different software, a higher temp glow plug, etc. There's really no good excuse for it to cost $699.
Do you have an ideal as to consumption of gasoline, would it be comparable to the diesel version 1 gallon a day or less? Tks for the video!
Probably about the same depending on the heat setting. On low, the fuel pump ticks at a much slower rate. I've been running it for two days on low. It's maintaining 67 degrees inside with it being in the low 40s outside. Nice thing about the Bluetooth is that I can make adjustments from my house.
Thanks!
I really want to quiet the pump. Where did you get that rubber part your attached to the pump??
You can find them on Amazon. amzn.to/3BWds43
Is there a way, and wouldn't it be more efficient to run the air intake inside the RV? That way you are 'heating' warm air vs cold air from outside that can be 10s of degrees colder.
It does pull from inside. The cavity inside where I routed the air intake is actually connected to the main heater intake through the basement.
I've only seen these installed inside the vehicle, wasn't aware these can be mounted underneath. Can you comment on the whether or not you'd recommend some additional protection around the heater?
I don't think it's necessary. The heater body doesn't get that hot. The area around the exhaust is where you need keep it clear from the surrounding area. It gets pretty hot. A little heat shield material to protect surrounding things is not a bad idea.
I'm assuming the quality of this is more equal to the higher quality Webasto than the quality of a diesel heater
So far it seems much better than my Webasto at half the price. Plus Velit has been making improvements where Webasto hasn't vhanged much in years.
I need a gasoline heater so I can run it From my vans gas tank for almost unlimited heat but I can't afford it can I get one somehow for Free especially cause it's Christmas soon ?
Is the gasoline heater producing wet heat like propane does?
@@peTeMelster not all propane heaters produce moisture.
Buddy heaters will but furnaces don't.
@dangeroustoman interesting. What creates the difference?
The furnace will vent the LP biproduct (moisture) back to the outside. Buddy Heater does not.
So is it safe to say that this gasoline heater burns cleaner than a diesel heater? If you said so in the video, I missed it.
I can't say for sure. I have both a gas and a diesel one. They both burn pretty clean. It's best to run them on high periodically to burn out any carbon that may build up.
@@RVwithTito Thank you!
I would think that the only difference between the gas and diesel heaters is the jetting and software. Same basic hardware.
That's my understanding as well. Maybe a different type of mesh in the burn chamber, but I'm not sure.
@@RVwithTito Even with the inconvenience of carrying diesel in a can, I think I prefer diesel since it is safer. Less volitile and less fuel lines. (when camping in a gas RV)
I once had a gasoline leak on my Onan, made me nervous.
Just wondering if you add up everything, this heater cheaper than propane ?
Not sure. It's not really about saving a few bucks. The LP is much more difficult to come by.
Does it have a brushless motor fan? The mounting plate is too thin, not suitable if there is some vibration on the road. Loom coming out of the heater not properly protected. Webasto much better at those details. Not really for heavy duty or harsh outdoors... Too bad HLN diesel heaters not making gasoline ones, would've been better for the money
Whys it 700.00 ? I can't afford that for sure
It sounds noisy, especially the fuel pump. Is it?
The fuel pump is installed outside of the vehicle. The rubber sleeve helps with the noise, but you may still hear it pumping. You can also insulate around it to reduce the noise even further. The heater itself isn't really noisy if installed in an enclosed space. Insulating around it will keep it pretty quiet. The only noise inside will be air noise from the ducts. If you go with a larger duct or register, it will be quieter.
What if any difference in fuel consumption between gas and diesel?
Hard to measure, but I'm guessing it's about the same.
@@RVwithTito Thanks ... nice to know about the gasoline system.
$700.00 what a rip. You getting commissions?
Inside the RV would be a terrible, to much noise, must be some other space especially in a class A, I thinking the old battery department (underneath stairs),and only the warm.air come into the RV
In our class C I had it mounted inside a bottom cabinet. I added a little insulation and it wasn't loud. Most of the noise comes from smaller ducting and registers. Larger ones cut down the air noise significantly.
Th cheap Chinese diesel heater are incredible and you really dint need to spend five times the money on more branded ones !! also I would be really nervous having gasoline instead of diesel !!!! if that sucker ever malfunctioned ? BOOM !!!
I've been running a gas model for several years without issue. Plus there are safety measures built in to cut the fuel supply.
I would be terrified of using a gas version of the heater, gas is so much more flammable and explosive then diesel
With out a metal fuel line i would never trust it.
I think I’d be worried about gas one little leak you don’t know about and you have a potential bomb
Gasoline sounds very dangerous.
If installed properly you should be fine. You're vehicle's engine burns gas too :) Make sure the hoses and fuel connections are done correctly and you should be fine. The combustion chamber is fully enclosed except for the combustion intake and exhaust.
Liquid gasoline by itself is actually not very flammable. It's the vapors that are highly inflammable and can pose an explosion hazard.
A fire extinguisher 🧯 would be a good idea the first time 😂. Why did you ditch the Webasto? I always say 2 is 1 and 1 is none. I can get gas anywhere but propane, not so much. I would love to put one in. Since I have a gas generator all I’d have to do is tap into that fuel line. Drill the holes and mount it. I just don’t have the space for it. Nice install 👍🏼
Thanks. Yes, I have multiple fire extinguishers. The Webasto was only rated for 4500ft and would carbon up at higher elevations and throw errors. Then I would have to clean it out. I tested it up to 10K ft. Plus it is a little undersized for this larger area. Upgrading to a larger Webasto is really expensive. This one automatically adjusts and will work up to 12K ft.
@ oh ok. Thanks. 👍🏼
@@RVwithTitoPlease let us know after you test it at high altitude. Also should always have a good working Carbon Monoxide detector in your RV.
Yes to both. I do have CO detector installed in addition to the one in the heater control.