All of his music presented for awards are in English with no Korean language so why was he designated k-pop? They don’t want him mainstream because he is best. Not cool for BBMAs.
If we insist that they keep him out of KPop categories he won’t win anything and I don’t think that’s fair. If KPop is all they will give him at this time, I’d rather it be that than nothing because the fans don’t want him included in KPop. (Although he is still a KPop idol. He just chose to sing in English).
Jungkook achieved many records after Billboard Music Awards announced their 2024 winners: 🎖 Jungkook is the most awarded Kpop Soloist in BBMAs history (3) 🎖Jungkook is the most awarded Kpop Act at the 2024 BBMAs (2) 🎖Jungkook is the #2 most awarded Kpop Act in BBMAs history 🎖 Jungkook is the first Kpop Soloist to win “Top Global Kpop Song” for 2 consecutive years at the BBMAs 🎖 Jungkook joins BTS as the only Kpop Acts to win multiple awards in a single year at the BBMAs
I agree 100% with you Jose'. He should have won the overall as well. All award shows need to do away with the Kpop category and let our boys compete with everyone else & win like everyone else!!
Congrats Jungkook. Yes, you are right. I also think it is strange that Jimin with Who or Like Crazy didn't win in a main category. JK and Jimin are both not only K-Pop but, are also mainstream. BTS deserved it also for their collaboration with Coldplay with My Universe. I will always respect and admire BTS for their hard work for opening up award shows for other Korean musicians. You can truly see how all the other Korean musicians are treated better then they were. I truly like MUSE a lot. Just like I like Jack in the Box by JHope etc
Say it louder! Couldn't agree more! When I saw the winner list, I was so confused and disappointed. I am supper happy for the 2 he won, but it doesn't make sense. He broke billboard records but didnt get the ultimate. That's odd
@@Bluelion1959*JUNGKOOK COULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED IN OTHER CATEGORIES BUT THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT YEAR PEOPLE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE VOTING PROCESS* *NOPE FRAUDMIN BOTS VOTES* 👎👎👎👎👎
My head is exploding lol - valid question which I can't get my head around!! Agree definitely "congratulations" to all participants *AND* winners ~ Jose, always a pleasure
I thought of the same thing. But it is BB. It probably hurt them to name him winner for the two categories. I try not to think about it and I will just let it go. 2+2=4 unless youre doing BB math then it equals weird. 🙅🏽♀️. But we are used to BB slighting BTS if they can find away. They found a way to
Did not watch your video yet but so happy each time a new one pops up just like that.. i like so much your random informative videos, thanks so so much José
The way I haven't been keeping up, especially on Twitter since Nov 4....😅 I didn't even know this was going on. Congrats to JK!💜 Global Super Star in my eyes always!
4:52 GOT THEM!!! Top song, top album is what make the artist top (they prefer attendance. Ofc. And my boys being put in the k-pop category makes me so effing angry)
They did not even announce he won either award. Nothing was said at all. What a disgrace I will never watch again. Besides that it was just a terrible show
I have been mad. I want explanations as how is Standing Next To You kpop. Not the sound, nor the arrangement, nor the composers/producers. It just happens that the guy singing it is Korean (and he's incredibly good at singing it and performing it). They simply continue to not recognize that he is a superb POP artist, and that song is the pop song in a loooooong time.
The same goes for Who by Jimin. Or like Crazy by Jimin. With less promotion. Each member of BTS deserved recognition for each unique album/songs. For, rock, r&b, latin, jazz, creativity, mv, dance, rap, collaboration. Look how the stations treated Jimin with Like Crazy. They literally attacked him. Just like the Grammy's (Scammy's). BTS as creative musicians deserve a special award for their versatile genre etc. Meaningful lyrics etc. I never understood how Harry Styles won best dance performance while BTS had ON and Black Swan. Sorry, I still don't understand how a Taylor Swift wins so often. She can sing but, to me it is always the same. Then Beyonce as best country... Unbelievable.. There are way better ones. I guess it is who you know and what you pay. Anyway if Jk and Jimin are both nominated you know JK will win. I know that Jimin doesn't mind because, he's happy for JK because, that's his brother. I like all 7 members equally. So I have each members solo work. I hope that next year year Jin will be nominated because, for sure I love his album. Just lets support RM Suga JHope Jin Jungkook V Jimin equally because, everyone of them deserves it in my opinion (you don't have to agree) not just 1 member. Also each member got a chance to show their personal type of music due to BTS where they show how good they are.
The multiple albums thing is it. Their last 2 albums they've released no less than 17 versions both times. When sales become more about collecting photo cards and inclusions than buying for the music this happens and this is how some groups are playing the game with sales. Their sales numbers look great. BTS on the other hand never releases more than like 4 versions of any album. By comparison that's wild to me.
I think it could be a way for Billboard to pretend to give Kpop the same recognition they give "western" pop. They can say, "Hey look, we're inclusive of all music. We handed awards to three different Kpop artists/groups this year!" And they hope that fans will forget they created these separate and definitely not equal Kpop categories and be satisfied.
Yeah. It kind of feels like a hollowed victory. Hopefully, the process will change next year when more categories are opened for K-pop artists to be nominated in.
And this is exactly why it's a huge joke that Grammy's were trying to do a Korean version. Like, "Hey guys, we appreciate Korean artists. Just not enough to accept them winning over mainstream westerners."
Agreed that it's strange winning all the major categories connected to top artist but not winning the actual award. It must have something to do with the multiple albums released by other group... either way CONGRATS JK!
They don't want ARMY against them. So they award the most profitable member a few awards but they also don't want to tick off kpop fans so they award the next most profitable. BB is as bad as the scammys.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the votes got split between Jimin and Jungkook and that's where the Stray Kids literally came up the middle and acquired the votes needed to beat them. Now, by *how many votes* is anyone's guess....
Honestly even if it's for the publicity or clout or whatever unknown reasons or agenda out there, we all are so aware of such occurences... Award shows and everything... How many of them are really out there wanting to actually acknowledge and address what BTS (or any other artist) deserves (well they have already been deserving since time immemorial) The whole Kpop category was already something that shouldn't have been created. Also that if there is a Kpop category then they should also include these Artists in the whole categories without any sorting since BTS is a worldwide known artist group... Even now they are placing an entire English song and album into these kpop categories especially even when their genres have always been so out of the box.. This whole generalizing sort of thing for Kpop... I don't even have any expectations from such shows no more... It's weird that though we are thankful for giving them the award for whatever category, everything seems just so backhanded to me...
Yesterday, I watched a video titled: "top songs of 2024'. I was overjoyed when Jimin was included in this list. Btw, Jimin is my bias. It wasn't until later in the day that I realized Jungkook was not listed at all. That was surprising to me.
I wish jimin would have won an award too who reached 1B fastest and jimin worked so hard ☹️ (may be because of no support from 🛴) ..but im so happy for jk
I don’t think any of the mackmae line hasn't got enough support, them views speak volumes and it is not fare to blame it all the time on the support because the figures contradicts you and you are mentioning that yourself, he won so many things and records, so he does not get little support, point proven. In comparison and looking at the figures it is clear who is not getting enough support and if you denied guys you are blind or your level of maths needs a strong revision. Hyungs are not getting the right support at all figures on views talks volumes; and I get it, the 4 of them went for less popular genres and so on and it is fine. But: 1. Stand alone of macknae line keep complaining for no reason. 2. To top it up after they even claim to be OT7 is not true. I love Jimin to pieces and the 7 of them and it hurts that they don't get an award each. My vias is Suga and I support him 200% but when it comes to active support on views I do view Suga's job as much as the other 6 guys. I always push my self to view the 7 equally, just if I have no time I may hear Suga song only. But I do not hear 3 suga songs and no other members song. Now that means OT7. Who claims to be OT7 but just hear them vias music is not. Sorry you may like the other 7 because they are your vias brothers, but that is not OT7. Don't take this as a critic, to me Jimin had enough support ti win and I would have giving it to him. But don't blame it on the fans. It is Billboard, not luck of support. Jimin is an angel and we all know it.
BBMA is metrics based on record sales, streams and most importantly radio play. Jimin did extremely well this year, but his tracking period was only 3 months. JK’s album and songs tracked for a full year, plus he had a lot more radio play.
JK topped the BB, not the "K-Pop BB". It doesn't make sense to label it that way as a separate category. 🤔 Attendance? So if you graduate but don't attend the ceremony to walk across the stage, did you not graduate? Get outta here! 😂 Congratulations to JK! He is the top artist. 💜
There is another Question I, am asking me. He won the best K Pop Album and the best K Pop Song but Golden and Standing next to you are for me not K Pop. The Songs of his Album are all in English not one Korean Song so his Album is a Pop Album and should be in the Category of the best International Pop Album and also his Solo Song is in Englisch so it should be in the Category fir the best International Pop Song and Jungkook should be nominated for the best Male Artist. But I think all Western Awards are unfair only why JK is from Korea means he can, t be in this Categorys?
It is complicated because even if his songs are in english ,he is korean and they work hard to have the k in front of pop. But yes some korean artist need to be under pop category or alternative or rap. Awards shows are restritive like that. I remember Celine Dion refusing an award because she was french Canadian and not American. Award shows in Europe are even more complicated
This isn’t directly about what Jose said because this isn’t what he addressed, but my concern about ARMY making a big deal about them not winning nonKPop themed awards or being nominated for KPop awards is that we may make it where they are only nominated for nonKPop categories which will affect JK the most, because he is the one who sings mostly in English. Let’s face it, they ARE NOT going to win those the nonKPop awards any time soon. Let’s be careful to not take awards away from them. I’ve even heard ARMIES say JK shouldn’t win MAMA or MMA awards with English songs and that was their reasoning for encouraging others to not vote for him in categories where other members were nominated. They used that as the reason to vote for other members. I have no problem for voting for any of the members, but let’s be careful about cutting JK out of getting awards just because of the language he chooses to sing in. I am happy at least one of them won for whatever category they is in. He is still a KPop idol and he mentioned on Suchwita that he was proud of that and kept that in mind when recording in the States. Hope my rambling makes a bit of sense.
That's not even the argument we are making...music shouldn't be divided based on where you are from or what language you sing in... it's not follow music, it's literally the same western music, some sing it in English and some in Korean...we are speaking about all BTS members here...now tell me how Winter Ahead which is a jazz song in English is now a k-pop song...and how Bing Crosby song became suddenly k-pop as well just because V joined in and sang in English lol....do you understand now? How can RM last album even be considered k-pop when it actually broke all boundaries of what makes k-pop music....BTS members are listened to more around the world than in Korea as well so it just doesn't make sense....the whole k categories in the west were literally made to restrict BTS and never let them cross over or compete with other musicians because they were starting to dominate a lot even over top western artists....we aren't taking just about JK, this was something we fought against even before their solo projects started....them being proud of their Korean identity and roots have nothing to do with this...they also talked about how music is just music....
I will simply say this the winners of Best kpop Artist are on the same record label as Taylor Swift and Morgan Whelan(sp?)so that and being able to attend helped. These awards use our boys...and when they come back next year..trust me it will only be BTS in the kpop categories.
Am I crazy or is the Album Golden in English😂😂😂. How in the hell are they putting that in the K-POP category. So if thats the case artist like Tyla can only win in the Afro Beats category. Harry Styles can only win in the European category. Do you see how crazy that sounds? Im a black American and I am offended by Billboards actions its clearly racist.
That is a very interesting point! It didn't even occur to me. It makes perfect sense that if you were tops on all the things, how are you not top on the culmination award. odd
I wonder if it's because JK isn't really considered "K-pop artist" anymore. He's more of a "global artist" not confined to K-pop any more. I agree with you, though, about them even making a K-pop category. It should just be artist.
Music awards all over the world are so skewed they are all but meaningless at this point. If you've ever heard Prince or Eminem or G Dragon talk about the music industry you know not to be surprised.
I agree with you completely...about everything! I never watch awards unless our Bangtan are involved. I give no weight to them. The results are always so crazy and get me angry. Still, once again, this makes NO SENSE! Don't even get me started about the fan polls! No fan base, and I mean NO fan base, is bigger or better than our ARMY! Yet we got stomped even with us voting in full force (in the category that bears our name)??? Atiny had virtually ALL the votes that were not BTS ARMY and the others were mostly under 1 percent. Hmm? Does that hint towards something dirty?
I think top global kpop artist includes touring data. It's an overall. JK and JM did not tour. I agree, get rid of all these other categories. The main categories should only exist.
its not just BBMA s even korean awards somehow are messing with bts. everyone keeps messing with them man. They are in the military and probably getting all the updates of the outside world and they are probably smiling at the world right now. But they know armys wont let anything happen to the group.
Well….i’m also in agreement that there shouldn’t be a K-pop category period. JK /Jimin / and all our guys should be considered mainstream, even in the rap categories imo. Why were Stray Kids nominated for best group ( not in the K-pop category, in the regular one) ? ALL , and I mean ALL these awards show have shown to be disgraceful. I’m so done with them. I mean, c’mon , Beyoncé wins best country female artist??? When the F did she turn country? Just because she did a country album, she is now considered the best country female artist ??? What’s it gonna be next year for Beyoncé, a mariachi album , so she’ll get the award for best Latino artist??? At this point, with all the Diddy and Jay Z crap, all her awards don’t mean a rats ass anymore. Everything she’s won , seems biased for me now. It sickens me to see how everyone praises her. I mean, is everyone scared that if she doesn’t win, they’ll end up covered in laced baby oil and on Diddy’s video recorder? I know I got a bit off topic here, but I just wanted to make my point about these award shows being biased and unfairly horrendous. Anyhow, I do congratulate JK and all the kpop artists that did win, cause from someone that loves kpop, I’m happy for them all !
Yep... They had to create separate categories because people judge them and say oh they work too hard. We can't keep up with them. That's crazy... Yeah I'm pissed! The math definitely isn't mathing...
This is why I don't watch award shows anymore. I agree with you Jose. It is frustrating and never makes sense. And, yes, if BTS or any member of BTS, was going to be present I would watch it just to support and see the guys. But other than that it is too influenced by power and money.
Да вы обсолютно правы , есть странности именно потому-то его не могло быть на церемонии вот и отдали и ещё выступления были той группы в этом году а JK не было выступлений но я рада что вообще отметили а то я боялась что вообще ничего не дадут 😊
Idk about others but I got you! It's not a shade on the other artists (ppl who think it is are dumb-) it's our analysis about why our boy, when he snatched the top song and top album awards, did not end up being the top artist too!! 😂😂😂 Bbmas ofc prefer attendance so it's no surprise but they are making it so obvious this time! Congrats to the other artists, I have nothing against them too!
Bb will always do that. Jk’s album was mainstream and should have been in the mainstream category. A true racist thing to do. “ put them in their place, and keep them there”. We as army know it will never be fair . We knew way back and then faced it again with Jimin and face with bb and Grammy’s. Because if all the backlash face controversy caused we knew Jimin would never win an award. We also know that no matter what we do we will always be made to keep our place. Total bs
We also need to remember that BTS as a group hasn’t performed last year and I’m sure that has something to do with it. But congratulations to SEVENTEEN !!! The debut in 2015 And have worked really, really hard - And I’m sure OUR BTS members are so proud of them !!! Not all groups are enemies of other groups.
*WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT JUNGKOOK PERFORMED LAST YEAR. CONGRATULATIONS TO JUNGKOOK!!!!! JUNGKOOK HAS WORKED REALLY REALLY HARD AND I'M SURE BTS MEMBERS ARE SO PROUD OF JUNGKOOK!!!*
So...BBMAs said JK was the top kpop artist of the year on social media. And then.... he wasn't awarded top kpop artists of the year..... What an insult to him and the other group who was handed a participation trophy. (I don't know who won yet, btw).
Please don’t forget-that according to BTS It is perfectly fine To support other K-pop artists !! They do !! Of course, BTS remains at the top of Our adoration But they seriously would be disappointed if we said we push other K-pop artist to the side . That is not Army behavior. (I know billboard isn’t all K-pop-but there could and should be other K-pop artists !)
Sang in English but still in K-pop category BBMAS you need to stop he should’ve been in the main categories. Western music industry is scared of BTS success spilling over into their industry. Congrats Jk
I thought of the same thing. But it is BB. It probably hurt them to name him winner for the two categories. I try not to think about it and I will just let it go. 2+2=4 unless youre doing BB math then it equals weird. 🙅🏽♀️. But we are used to BB slighting BTS if they can find away. They found a way to
Congrats JK and all the other artists. I just have a question...
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I’m with you… I won’t watch award shows unless BTS / members attends 😊. Congrats JK!!
Same!!!!!!
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All of his music presented for awards are in English with no Korean language so why was he designated k-pop? They don’t want him mainstream because he is best. Not cool for BBMAs.
If we insist that they keep him out of KPop categories he won’t win anything and I don’t think that’s fair. If KPop is all they will give him at this time, I’d rather it be that than nothing because the fans don’t want him included in KPop. (Although he is still a KPop idol. He just chose to sing in English).
Right! Nor the Grammys.
Yes! It’s exactly like Tyla winning Afrobeat awards all the time, and most of her music is African Music but it’s not Afrobeats!
I agree about the kpop categories. Because before bts was winning regular pop .
But the industry got scared.
Congratulations to Jeon Jungkook on his much deserved wins 🎉🎉👑🥇🏆🏆👏🏻
Jungkook achieved many records after Billboard Music Awards announced their 2024 winners:
🎖 Jungkook is the most awarded Kpop Soloist in BBMAs history (3)
🎖Jungkook is the most awarded Kpop Act at the 2024 BBMAs (2)
🎖Jungkook is the #2 most awarded Kpop Act in BBMAs history
🎖 Jungkook is the first Kpop Soloist to win “Top Global Kpop Song” for 2 consecutive years at the BBMAs
🎖 Jungkook joins BTS as the only Kpop Acts to win multiple awards in a single year at the BBMAs
What was the top Global KPop song last year, “Seven”?
I agree 100% with you Jose'. He should have won the overall as well. All award shows need to do away with the Kpop category and let our boys compete with everyone else & win like everyone else!!
Congrats Jungkook.
Yes, you are right.
I also think it is strange that Jimin with Who or Like Crazy didn't win in a main category.
JK and Jimin are both not only K-Pop but, are also mainstream.
BTS deserved it also for their collaboration with Coldplay with My Universe.
I will always respect and admire BTS for their hard work for opening up award shows for other Korean musicians.
You can truly see how all the other Korean musicians are treated better then they were.
I truly like MUSE a lot.
Just like I like Jack in the Box by JHope etc
Say it louder! Couldn't agree more! When I saw the winner list, I was so confused and disappointed. I am supper happy for the 2 he won, but it doesn't make sense. He broke billboard records but didnt get the ultimate. That's odd
JK and Jimin could have been nominated in other categories. But there is always next year. People need to pay attention to the voting process.
@Bluelion1959 i hope so.
@@Bluelion1959*JUNGKOOK COULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED IN OTHER CATEGORIES BUT THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT YEAR PEOPLE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE VOTING PROCESS*
*NOPE FRAUDMIN BOTS VOTES* 👎👎👎👎👎
My head is exploding lol - valid question which I can't get my head around!! Agree definitely "congratulations" to all participants *AND* winners ~ Jose, always a pleasure
Congratulations kookie💜
Yes 👍🙌 JK standing next to you.
Congrats to our Kookie!💜
You are so right
Song, album but not artist ,it doesn’t make sense but …
And Jk was name as the biggest kpop artist too,how is he not win the award
Congradulations, Jungkook 💜
Haven't been on twt these days so I gotta listen to you this time😂 Keep it up, José!! Thank you for making this!
Congratulations to our Global pop star 💯💯💜💜💜🤴🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥
I thought of the same thing. But it is BB. It probably hurt them to name him winner for the two categories. I try not to think about it and I will just let it go. 2+2=4 unless youre doing BB math then it equals weird. 🙅🏽♀️. But we are used to BB slighting BTS if they can find away. They found a way to
Why? Does BB have an issue with JK or BTS?
CONGRATULATIONS JUNGKOOK 🤩 SUPERSTAR 🌟 GLOBAL POP STAR 👑💯🔥
100% agree!
Did not watch your video yet but so happy each time a new one pops up just like that.. i like so much your random informative videos, thanks so so much José
The way I haven't been keeping up, especially on Twitter since Nov 4....😅
I didn't even know this was going on. Congrats to JK!💜 Global Super Star in my eyes always!
Поздравляю Чонгука и да, он должен взять и третью награду тоже! 👑
I agree agree agree with you! 🤔🧐💭Congrats though to our Jungkook!!! 👏 Stay golden!
Agreed 100% !
I had the same questionning. 🤔
Jose, I agree with you 💯! 💜
4:52 GOT THEM!!! Top song, top album is what make the artist top (they prefer attendance. Ofc. And my boys being put in the k-pop category makes me so effing angry)
I’d rather they be put in KPop than to never win in the regular. JMO
Agreed 100%
Congratulations to Jung Kook, he's on another level
Truly the BEST
They did not even announce he won either award. Nothing was said at all. What a disgrace I will never watch again. Besides that it was just a terrible show
I have been mad. I want explanations as how is Standing Next To You kpop. Not the sound, nor the arrangement, nor the composers/producers. It just happens that the guy singing it is Korean (and he's incredibly good at singing it and performing it). They simply continue to not recognize that he is a superb POP artist, and that song is the pop song in a loooooong time.
The same goes for Who by Jimin.
Or like Crazy by Jimin.
With less promotion.
Each member of BTS deserved recognition for each unique album/songs.
For, rock, r&b, latin, jazz, creativity, mv, dance, rap, collaboration.
Look how the stations treated Jimin with Like Crazy.
They literally attacked him.
Just like the Grammy's (Scammy's).
BTS as creative musicians deserve a special award for their versatile genre etc.
Meaningful lyrics etc.
I never understood how Harry Styles won best dance performance while BTS had ON and Black Swan.
Sorry, I still don't understand how a Taylor Swift wins so often.
She can sing but, to me it is always the same.
Then Beyonce as best country...
Unbelievable..
There are way better ones.
I guess it is who you know and what you pay.
Anyway if Jk and Jimin are both nominated you know JK will win.
I know that Jimin doesn't mind because, he's happy for JK because, that's his brother.
I like all 7 members equally.
So I have each members solo work.
I hope that next year year Jin will be nominated because, for sure I love his album.
Just lets support RM Suga JHope Jin Jungkook V Jimin equally because, everyone of them deserves it in my opinion (you don't have to agree) not just 1 member.
Also each member got a chance to show their personal type of music due to BTS where they show how good they are.
The multiple albums thing is it. Their last 2 albums they've released no less than 17 versions both times. When sales become more about collecting photo cards and inclusions than buying for the music this happens and this is how some groups are playing the game with sales. Their sales numbers look great. BTS on the other hand never releases more than like 4 versions of any album. By comparison that's wild to me.
Exactly
You’re totally right
I think it could be a way for Billboard to pretend to give Kpop the same recognition they give "western" pop. They can say, "Hey look, we're inclusive of all music. We handed awards to three different Kpop artists/groups this year!" And they hope that fans will forget they created these separate and definitely not equal Kpop categories and be satisfied.
I wouldn’t have as much of a problem with it if they renamed the others to “Western” awards or something.
Yeah. It kind of feels like a hollowed victory. Hopefully, the process will change next year when more categories are opened for K-pop artists to be nominated in.
And this is exactly why it's a huge joke that Grammy's were trying to do a Korean version. Like, "Hey guys, we appreciate Korean artists. Just not enough to accept them winning over mainstream westerners."
I agree that there shouldn't be a kpop category...basically Billboard have created musical apartheid and that is so wrong. 😔
lol saying he’s the biggest artist with billboard and not giving him that award is crazy 🤯💜
Agreed that it's strange winning all the major categories connected to top artist but not winning the actual award. It must have something to do with the multiple albums released by other group... either way CONGRATS JK!
Agreed!
They don't want ARMY against them. So they award the most profitable member a few awards but they also don't want to tick off kpop fans so they award the next most profitable. BB is as bad as the scammys.
And Jk charted No.1 on billboard top 100 while the winner didn't ... what was the criteria,what was the thought process
I thought it was weird too
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the votes got split between Jimin and Jungkook and that's where the Stray Kids literally came up the middle and acquired the votes needed to beat them. Now, by *how many votes* is anyone's guess....
*NOPE FRAUDMIN BOTS VOTES* 👎👎👎👎👎
Honestly even if it's for the publicity or clout or whatever unknown reasons or agenda out there, we all are so aware of such occurences... Award shows and everything... How many of them are really out there wanting to actually acknowledge and address what BTS (or any other artist) deserves (well they have already been deserving since time immemorial) The whole Kpop category was already something that shouldn't have been created. Also that if there is a Kpop category then they should also include these Artists in the whole categories without any sorting since BTS is a worldwide known artist group... Even now they are placing an entire English song and album into these kpop categories especially even when their genres have always been so out of the box.. This whole generalizing sort of thing for Kpop... I don't even have any expectations from such shows no more... It's weird that though we are thankful for giving them the award for whatever category, everything seems just so backhanded to me...
very well said 🙏
Thank you ~~
Yesterday, I watched a video titled: "top songs of 2024'.
I was overjoyed when Jimin was included in this list.
Btw, Jimin is my bias.
It wasn't until later in the day that I realized Jungkook was not listed at all.
That was surprising to me.
He didn’t release an album in 2024.
I guess it makes sense that JK couldn't make the list of the most popular songs of 2024 since he didn't release anything this year.
*NOPE FRAUDMIN* 👎👎👎👎👎
@@maja9091, oh damn! I guess I didn't realize that it was actually November 2023 that Jungkook released his album. Where does the time go? 😂
@@Imme_begin, yep, my bad.
Celebrating my angels! So proud of Jungkook and Jimin.
Congratulations JK!!!!
For your question…ahem attendance?💜
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I wish jimin would have won an award too who reached 1B fastest and jimin worked so hard ☹️ (may be because of no support from 🛴) ..but im so happy for jk
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I don’t think any of the mackmae line hasn't got enough support, them views speak volumes and it is not fare to blame it all the time on the support because the figures contradicts you and you are mentioning that yourself, he won so many things and records, so he does not get little support, point proven.
In comparison and looking at the figures it is clear who is not getting enough support and if you denied guys you are blind or your level of maths needs a strong revision. Hyungs are not getting the right support at all figures on views talks volumes; and I get it, the 4 of them went for less popular genres and so on and it is fine. But:
1. Stand alone of macknae line keep complaining for no reason.
2. To top it up after they even claim to be OT7 is not true.
I love Jimin to pieces and the 7 of them and it hurts that they don't get an award each. My vias is Suga and I support him 200% but when it comes to active support on views I do view Suga's job as much as the other 6 guys. I always push my self to view the 7 equally, just if I have no time I may hear Suga song only. But I do not hear 3 suga songs and no other members song. Now that means OT7. Who claims to be OT7 but just hear them vias music is not. Sorry you may like the other 7 because they are your vias brothers, but that is not OT7.
Don't take this as a critic, to me Jimin had enough support ti win and I would have giving it to him. But don't blame it on the fans. It is Billboard, not luck of support. Jimin is an angel and we all know it.
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BBMA is metrics based on record sales, streams and most importantly radio play. Jimin did extremely well this year, but his tracking period was only 3 months. JK’s album and songs tracked for a full year, plus he had a lot more radio play.
Here we go again Scooter excuse lol. Real talent, impact are important
JK topped the BB, not the "K-Pop BB". It doesn't make sense to label it that way as a separate category. 🤔 Attendance? So if you graduate but don't attend the ceremony to walk across the stage, did you not graduate? Get outta here! 😂 Congratulations to JK! He is the top artist. 💜
Definitely an attendance award. ♡
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agree. doesnt add up
Jose, i had same ? Before i watchd your video. Thx for bringing it out. ❤
That's so truee how he didn't win the artist award 😢
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Jungkook is the MOST WARDED K-pop Act at the 2024 Billboard Music Awards
There is another Question I, am asking me. He won the best K Pop Album and the best K Pop Song but Golden and Standing next to you are for me not K Pop. The Songs of his Album are all in English not one Korean Song so his Album is a Pop Album and should be in the Category of the best International Pop Album and also his Solo Song is in Englisch so it should be in the Category fir the best International Pop Song and Jungkook should be nominated for the best Male Artist. But I think all Western Awards are unfair only why JK is from Korea means he can, t be in this Categorys?
exactly, same! it's not fair, he is worldwide!! but they consider him as a K-pop artist, so maybe that's why.
no i get it! because nothing not making sense. but then again it’s billboard
It is complicated because even if his songs are in english ,he is korean and they work hard to have the k in front of pop. But yes some korean artist need to be under pop category or alternative or rap. Awards shows are restritive like that. I remember Celine Dion refusing an award because she was french Canadian and not American. Award shows in Europe are even more complicated
Exactly! I remember ARMY Wondering why there had to be a special, Outsider, category for musicians who were doing great in the standard competitions.
This isn’t directly about what Jose said because this isn’t what he addressed, but my concern about ARMY making a big deal about them not winning nonKPop themed awards or being nominated for KPop awards is that we may make it where they are only nominated for nonKPop categories which will affect JK the most, because he is the one who sings mostly in English. Let’s face it, they ARE NOT going to win those the nonKPop awards any time soon. Let’s be careful to not take awards away from them. I’ve even heard ARMIES say JK shouldn’t win MAMA or MMA awards with English songs and that was their reasoning for encouraging others to not vote for him in categories where other members were nominated. They used that as the reason to vote for other members. I have no problem for voting for any of the members, but let’s be careful about cutting JK out of getting awards just because of the language he chooses to sing in. I am happy at least one of them won for whatever category they is in. He is still a KPop idol and he mentioned on Suchwita that he was proud of that and kept that in mind when recording in the States. Hope my rambling makes a bit of sense.
That's not even the argument we are making...music shouldn't be divided based on where you are from or what language you sing in... it's not follow music, it's literally the same western music, some sing it in English and some in Korean...we are speaking about all BTS members here...now tell me how Winter Ahead which is a jazz song in English is now a k-pop song...and how Bing Crosby song became suddenly k-pop as well just because V joined in and sang in English lol....do you understand now? How can RM last album even be considered k-pop when it actually broke all boundaries of what makes k-pop music....BTS members are listened to more around the world than in Korea as well so it just doesn't make sense....the whole k categories in the west were literally made to restrict BTS and never let them cross over or compete with other musicians because they were starting to dominate a lot even over top western artists....we aren't taking just about JK, this was something we fought against even before their solo projects started....them being proud of their Korean identity and roots have nothing to do with this...they also talked about how music is just music....
I agree it makes no sense at all. I also think America award shows give out awards just for participation. If you perform, we will give you something.
Couldn't agree more💜🙌
Yep. The math ain't mathing
BBMA is a racist. JK should have been the winner of the soloist period.
Desde el año pasado que inventaron la sección de KPop, reparten los premios entre todos los nominados para que no se pongan tristes las fans
Same here, i won’t watch shows unles BTS is there.
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Yes. I also wondered about that too. It shouldn’t be Kpop.
I will simply say this the winners of Best kpop Artist are on the same record label as Taylor Swift and Morgan Whelan(sp?)so that and being able to attend helped.
These awards use our boys...and when they come back next year..trust me it will only be BTS in the kpop categories.
Am I crazy or is the Album Golden in English😂😂😂. How in the hell are they putting that in the K-POP category. So if thats the case artist like Tyla can only win in the Afro Beats category. Harry Styles can only win in the European category. Do you see how crazy that sounds? Im a black American and I am offended by Billboards actions its clearly racist.
So right! You nailed it! The Grammys are probably going to do the same thing.
That is a very interesting point! It didn't even occur to me. It makes perfect sense that if you were tops on all the things, how are you not top on the culmination award. odd
Agree with you and we know why ❤❤❤
Jose my dear we know the business when it comes to BTS.....that will not stop them being great anyway😏
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I wonder if it's because JK isn't really considered "K-pop artist" anymore. He's more of a "global artist" not confined to K-pop any more. I agree with you, though, about them even making a K-pop category. It should just be artist.
You are 100% right 👏👏
It makes no sense
Music awards all over the world are so skewed they are all but meaningless at this point. If you've ever heard Prince or Eminem or G Dragon talk about the music industry you know not to be surprised.
I agree with you completely...about everything! I never watch awards unless our Bangtan are involved. I give no weight to them. The results are always so crazy and get me angry. Still, once again, this makes NO SENSE! Don't even get me started about the fan polls! No fan base, and I mean NO fan base, is bigger or better than our ARMY! Yet we got stomped even with us voting in full force (in the category that bears our name)??? Atiny had virtually ALL the votes that were not BTS ARMY and the others were mostly under 1 percent. Hmm? Does that hint towards something dirty?
I think top global kpop artist includes touring data. It's an overall. JK and JM did not tour.
I agree, get rid of all these other categories. The main categories should only exist.
its not just BBMA s even korean awards somehow are messing with bts. everyone keeps messing with them man. They are in the military and probably getting all the updates of the outside world and they are probably smiling at the world right now. But they know armys wont let anything happen to the group.
Well….i’m also in agreement that there shouldn’t be a K-pop category period. JK /Jimin / and all our guys should be considered mainstream, even in the rap categories imo. Why were Stray Kids nominated for best group ( not in the K-pop category, in the regular one) ? ALL , and I mean ALL these awards show have shown to be disgraceful. I’m so done with them. I mean, c’mon , Beyoncé wins best country female artist??? When the F did she turn country? Just because she did a country album, she is now considered the best country female artist ??? What’s it gonna be next year for Beyoncé, a mariachi album , so she’ll get the award for best Latino artist??? At this point, with all the Diddy and Jay Z crap, all her awards don’t mean a rats ass anymore. Everything she’s won , seems biased for me now. It sickens me to see how everyone praises her. I mean, is everyone scared that if she doesn’t win, they’ll end up covered in laced baby oil and on Diddy’s video recorder? I know I got a bit off topic here, but I just wanted to make my point about these award shows being biased and unfairly horrendous. Anyhow, I do congratulate JK and all the kpop artists that did win, cause from someone that loves kpop, I’m happy for them all !
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You are so right! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep... They had to create separate categories because people judge them and say oh they work too hard. We can't keep up with them. That's crazy... Yeah I'm pissed! The math definitely isn't mathing...
This is why I don't watch award shows anymore. I agree with you Jose. It is frustrating and never makes sense. And, yes, if BTS or any member of BTS, was going to be present I would watch it just to support and see the guys. But other than that it is too influenced by power and money.
Mama and MMA did the same thing won all the top awards but then didn’t get the Daesang.. what r they afraid of 🤯🤷♀️
Да вы обсолютно правы , есть странности именно потому-то его не могло быть на церемонии вот и отдали и ещё выступления были той группы в этом году а JK не было выступлений но я рада что вообще отметили а то я боялась что вообще ничего не дадут 😊
They don't want our guys to succeed
Idk about others but I got you! It's not a shade on the other artists (ppl who think it is are dumb-) it's our analysis about why our boy, when he snatched the top song and top album awards, did not end up being the top artist too!! 😂😂😂 Bbmas ofc prefer attendance so it's no surprise but they are making it so obvious this time! Congrats to the other artists, I have nothing against them too!
Doesn’t make sense 🙄 he got those big achievements but not artist smh attendance is key with them 🤔😒
Bb will always do that. Jk’s album was mainstream and should have been in the mainstream category. A true racist thing to do. “ put them in their place, and keep them there”. We as army know it will never be fair . We knew way back and then faced it again with Jimin and face with bb and Grammy’s. Because if all the backlash face controversy caused we knew Jimin would never win an award. We also know that no matter what we do we will always be made to keep our place. Total bs
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We also need to remember that BTS as a group hasn’t performed last year and I’m sure that has something to do with it.
But congratulations to SEVENTEEN !!!
The debut in 2015
And have worked really, really hard -
And I’m sure OUR BTS members are so proud of them !!!
Not all groups are enemies of other groups.
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So...BBMAs said JK was the top kpop artist of the year on social media.
And then.... he wasn't awarded top kpop artists of the year.....
What an insult to him and the other group who was handed a participation trophy. (I don't know who won yet, btw).
Please don’t forget-that according to BTS
It is perfectly fine
To support other K-pop artists !!
They do !!
Of course, BTS remains at the top of
Our adoration
But they seriously would be disappointed if we said we push other K-pop artist to the side .
That is not Army behavior.
(I know billboard isn’t all K-pop-but there could and should be other K-pop artists !)
Yeah, that doesn't add up.
Sang in English but still in K-pop category BBMAS you need to stop he should’ve been in the main categories. Western music industry is scared of BTS success spilling over into their industry. Congrats Jk
Especially if you take sales into the math.. he sold more so I'm confused as well
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I thought of the same thing. But it is BB. It probably hurt them to name him winner for the two categories. I try not to think about it and I will just let it go. 2+2=4 unless youre doing BB math then it equals weird. 🙅🏽♀️. But we are used to BB slighting BTS if they can find away. They found a way to
I really don’t get it either. How is this award even calculated?
So true. Makes no sense at all
I think it's because this group also had a big song that was part of the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie🤔