Carvings often were made not from oak - but poplar. As it is lighter, good to carve, and does not make the ship's high transom's figures a source of topheavyness to the hole ship. Best wishes from Berlin, Christian
Love these bits of knowledge that your channel has been providing insight and details of the development of ship construction during the age of sail. Please continue. I have been enjoying every one of your episodes.
I, too, love the Baroque period of naval history. It is so much more dramatic and dynamic than later periods. Battles were hard-fought, longer with larger fleets. There was so much more social mobility. I love the 17th century
Again, this is interesting information. THANKS! I'm a bit fascinated by the Mary Celeste ghost ship, her story is intriguing and I wonder if a ghost ship video might be interesting.
Thank you for the idea. Alas, I don’t really know much more -if at all - than is public knowledge. She, I am afraid, Is a bit later than my research interests. But I’ll look into this.
Thank you for the insightful video. I want to look further into this style of decoration. Do you perhaps know of any books that might help me in my studies?
Looking forward to your lecture as ever. I have also read your review of Marsden's 'Who Sank The Mary Rose?' I felt I needed to see for myself, so I bought a copy (secondhand for four quid). I'm only three chapters in but I already have both questions and reservations about some of his assertions. Would love to discuss the subject further with you. Regards Andy Jones
I will be happy to do it! There is another review, even more critical than mine in Mariner’s Mirror published about the same time as mine. It’s author brings up other valid points that I didn’t in mine. Have a look at it, too. The book is readable and no doubt not very discerning readers who are not thinking through what they are reading but just take it as Gospel truth, would make it a commercial success. Scholars will simply ignore it. The author even speaks of galleys ramming opponents! In the 16th c- ramming?!? By the way, the 1649, does it refer to the judicious murder of the Martyr King?
Thank you again. I shall read on. Just a question, do you think the accepted numbers (approx 500+?) men in the ship at the time of it sinking is correct?
That would be correct for the 18th century. Much of the carvings in the 17th century appear to have been gilded. On Dutch vessels, however, they were painted. You are correct that ochre could be substituted for gilding
@@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist I refer specifically to the 17th century citing Frank Fox's Great Ships: the battle fleet of Charles II (1982) in particular.
I realy like this style, personaly i find the ships like wasa a bit to bussy a bit to much, but the closed sterns and no gallery's a bit to boring, this periode is the nice middle way. ofcoarse that is with my modern and personal tastes.
I beg to differ, but as you say: it is a personal taste :-)) I love the older ships and the Baroque in general. But I fo see what you mean and you certainly have a point!
Full agreement on the beauty of mid georgian ships with friezes and carvings, vs the utter uglyness of that dreadfull 'bumblebee' paintscheme and and napoleonic looks. I am sad to see how often Victory and her napoleonic colours have 'inspired' so many in film, games and media to assume the dalton-gang-prison-clothes paintjob is perfect for the whole 18th c.
I guess that vessel owners, whomever that are, decorate their ships as a paramour would decorate his lover. Goes along with sailors calling their ships 'she'.
Carvings often were made not from oak - but poplar. As it is lighter, good to carve, and does not make the ship's high transom's figures a source of topheavyness to the hole ship.
Best wishes from Berlin, Christian
I have to ask Fred Hocker, but if memory serves me right all Vasa sculptures are of oak.
Love these bits of knowledge that your channel has been providing insight and details of the development of ship construction during the age of sail. Please continue. I have been enjoying every one of your episodes.
Thank you very, very much for the kind words! I have begun to enjoy making the videos. Or rather, recording them. Olya makes the videos themselves.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge once again, Kroum. I love building models of Baroque period ships for all the reasons you stated!
I, too, love the Baroque period of naval history. It is so much more dramatic and dynamic than later periods. Battles were hard-fought, longer with larger fleets. There was so much more social mobility. I love the 17th century
Very much enjoyed your presentation. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Благодарю. Будьте добры, расскажите о расположении / порядке медных листов на подворной части корпуса. Спасибо
Alright. I’ll see what I can do :-).
Again, this is interesting information. THANKS!
I'm a bit fascinated by the Mary Celeste ghost ship, her story is intriguing and I wonder if a ghost ship video might be interesting.
Thank you for the idea. Alas, I don’t really know much more -if at all - than is public knowledge. She, I am afraid,
Is a bit later than my research interests. But I’ll look into this.
Thank you for the insightful video. I want to look further into this style of decoration. Do you perhaps know of any books that might help me in my studies?
Looking forward to your lecture as ever.
I have also read your review of Marsden's 'Who Sank The Mary Rose?'
I felt I needed to see for myself, so I bought a copy (secondhand for four quid).
I'm only three chapters in but I already have both questions and reservations about some of his assertions.
Would love to discuss the subject further with you.
Regards
Andy Jones
I will be happy to do it! There is another review, even more critical than mine in Mariner’s Mirror published about the same time as mine. It’s author brings up other valid points that I didn’t in mine. Have a look at it, too.
The book is readable and no doubt not very discerning readers who are not thinking through what they are reading but just take it as Gospel truth, would make it a commercial success. Scholars will simply ignore it. The author even speaks of galleys ramming opponents! In the 16th c- ramming?!?
By the way, the 1649, does it refer to the judicious murder of the Martyr King?
Thank you again.
I shall read on.
Just a question, do you think the accepted numbers (approx 500+?) men in the ship at the time of it sinking is correct?
English gilt was usually gingerbread, a mixture of tar and yellow paint, gold being prohibitively expensive, Royal Sovereign excepted.
That would be correct for the 18th century. Much of the carvings in the 17th century appear to have been gilded. On Dutch vessels, however, they were painted. You are correct that ochre could be substituted for gilding
@@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist I refer specifically to the 17th century citing Frank Fox's Great Ships: the battle fleet of Charles II (1982) in particular.
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I realy like this style, personaly i find the ships like wasa a bit to bussy a bit to much, but the closed sterns and no gallery's a bit to boring, this periode is the nice middle way.
ofcoarse that is with my modern and personal tastes.
I beg to differ, but as you say: it is a personal taste :-)) I love the older ships and the Baroque in general. But I fo see what you mean and you certainly have a point!
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Full agreement on the beauty of mid georgian ships with friezes and carvings, vs the utter uglyness of that dreadfull 'bumblebee' paintscheme and and napoleonic looks.
I am sad to see how often Victory and her napoleonic colours have 'inspired' so many in film, games and media to assume the dalton-gang-prison-clothes paintjob is perfect for the whole 18th c.
I guess that vessel owners, whomever that are, decorate their ships as a paramour would decorate his lover. Goes along with sailors calling their ships 'she'.
There was substantial freedom of action for captains to decorate their ships in accordance to their private meqns