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Did Chuck Berry STEAL The Chuck Berry Licks??
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Chuck Berry’s opening riff to Johnny B Goode is one of the most famous, earliest and best in all of rock. It had huge influence on players we know and love, like Richards, Page, Van Halen and countless other guitar heroes. But did he take it from someone else? IMHO, no! He created something very different than the original by combining his own influences and original ideas.
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Did Chuck Berry STEAL His Johnny B Goode Licks??
Did Chuck Berry STEAL His Most Famous Licks??
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He got that lead from when I showed it to him.
@@jerryrussell2600 BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Wasn't it James Burton that first used banjo strings on his guitar to make a new unique sound?!
Everyone knows he got it from Marty McFly!!!!
LOL! Dang, I should've put that in the video. Ha ha!
That a fact!
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Via his cousin Marvin Berry, also a musician.
"Good artists borrow, great artists steal" - Pablo Picasso
As a retired rock n roller and blues man, I allways show the young guys, how the real rock guitar was born. There's no way not to use Chuck Berry as the real deal. Thanks for another great share., MZ. You're a great guitarist and a very nice teacher 🎸🎸🎸
Thanks Allan! Yes, Chuck was the real deal and 100% necessary if you want to learn rock guitar for real. Thanks for watching and for the kind comment!
Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five doesn't get proper due credit, for being the key influencers for rock 'n roll, rhythm and blues, and swing style. Chuck listened, applied his own twists and mods, and made his own to fit his style.
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Thanks, Mark. This was probably the very first real R&R song that my mom heard growing up. When I was learning the instrument, it was the first song that I wanted to play!
You're welcome. Glad it could bring on good memories!
"The greatest composer is the greatest thief." -Ludwig van Beethoven
Louis Jordan was an innovator and his early videos are a treasure. Your comparisons and explanations are good in that we have borrowed from the past musically. Being how Chuck was protective of his works, never understood why Chuck Berry took entire writer's credit for an early R&B song called "My Ding a Ling" written by Dave Bartholomew and Todd Rhodes released in 1952 on King Records. Most people would recognize Dave more for his co-writing credits with Fats Domino's 50's classic recordings and Fat's bandleader for decades. The song "My Ding a Ling" was also released by an R&B vocal group The Bees on Imperial in 1954 and Todd Rhodes name disappears as a writer. Then in 1972, 20 years after the original, Chuck Berry records "My Ding a Ling" becoming his first and only Billboard #1 hit record. The writer on his Chess records release is Chuck Berry. The melody line and lyrics are almost exactly the same as Mr. Bartholomew's 1952 release. Perhaps Dave Bartholomew knew he took it from an even earlier blues or country blues artist and adapted it as he never went after Chuck for "stealing" his work. As a musician and music producer, I like to look at the origins of songs or the earliest version of a song.
Chuck Berry is the king. He’s the whole reason we’re all watching this.
Chuck recorded his own version of Ain't It Just Like A Woman.
Didn't know that, thanks!
Thx. ua-cam.com/video/YE316gjZWX8/v-deo.html
Great analysis and editing here, M.Z.! I love jump blues and its timeless upbeat fun style and you represent this superbly here! I am a bit shocked you didn't play your ES 335 for at least these Berry parts but great all the same!! Jim C.
Thanks Jim! Well, I thought about it, but someone was running a seminar in the room I keep it in at the time of recording. I have a hollow body that also would've worked. In the end I went with the LP I had access to. I thought it sounded the way I wanted it, so kept it. From what I know, Chuck mostly played the big ES-350 T early and the 335 later. Both great guitars!
@@MarkZabel Red 335 Mark 😅🔮
@@krisstieghorst7415 That was later though. Early on it was his ES-350T as his main axe. I think the ES-335 first came out in 1958. All good.
@@MarkZabel love the golden Gibson 💛 Mark just aggravating😅👍
@@krisstieghorst7415 lol!
Awesome history/music lesson as only Mark can present. As much as I enjoy Chuck Berry's music, I learned a lot more about him today.
Glad you enjoyed it Phil!!
great analysis and love the conclusion - the difference between influenced and stolen, and that Chuck melded several different styles and concepts into a style that changed music. A bit shocked to see only 167 likes.
Thanks D Man!! Yes, a huge difference between stolen and influenced. Chuck *definitely* changed the original and made it totally his own - AND was gracious enough to both acknowledge his influences and be friends with those he himself influenced.
300 years from now, when rock music is a footnote, if they only list one name, it should be Chuck Berry.
The guitar Michael j fox used was not made yet
Great instruction Video!! Louis Jordan Gold Jump Era was exactly the intermediate time between Swing and Rock And Roll. Walkin' Rhythm and Straight Rhythm. And Berry took a lot from T-Bone Walker. In Fact he recognized it, and if you looks for in UA-cam, ther's one very funny situation in 1970 live at Montreaux, where Berry was making his show with "The Aces" as his backing band, and invites his teacher T-Bone with a lot of funny situations , included Berry showing T-Bone licks, as saying...look ...look!
Thank you. And that's great info too - thanks for that!
@@MarkZabel my pleasure. And go MarkZabel go 😊😊 🎸🎸🎸
@@MarkZabel are you in Instagram or FB?
Chuck said Louie Jordan was on of his influencers.
Yep, clearly Louie Jordan was an influence.
Great video, Mark. Very educational and thanks for keeping the history alive so that people can learn about great players like Carl Hogan. But you've forgotten to mention another very important influence on Chuck Berry's guitar style: Sister Rosetta Tharpe. I saw an interview with Chuck in which he stated his admiration for her and how she influenced his playing. You could also add TBone Walker as well. Chuck developed his own totally unique style from all these sources. To me he's the true King of Rock and Roll forever, not Elvis.
Glad you enjoyed it! I try to keep my videos short and this one was focused on the Johnny B. Goode lick. So many people got it from Chuck and many players are quick to add "he stole it from Chuck." Well, as long as they altered the lick it's fair use as far as I'm concerned. Chuck didn't get these things from nowhere - as you mention T-Bone and Sister Rosetta were influences. But music is meant to be shared and built upon. So I don't think Chuck "stole" it either. He changed it and changed music forever.
I totally agree that he's the true king of Rock and Roll. 300 years from now, when "Rock" is a single paragraph in a music history book, Chuck's name will be the only one mentioned!
Great breakdown! Sounding good Mark Zabel
Thanks buddy! Glad you liked it!
Chuck was born at 2520 GOODE AVE in St. LOUIS
Nice Les Paul, I love the mini hum buckers!
Me too!
Chuck didn't steal his licks but Keith Richards should still be paying Chuck royalties for half the Stone's stuff.
Keith has always said Chuck was a huge influence and he's a big fan and, I believe was a friend. Keith was innovative as well. His lead - not his strength IMHO - was largely Chuck-based.
You should read Chuck's autobiography, because it has a lot of good info in it, including how he would sometimes play a country song here and there during his sets at The Cosmo Club, basically just for a laugh. But what's funny is how he ended up taking some elements from it for real when he started making his own recordings for Chess. Because if you compare Chuck's most popular hits to those of somebody like Little Richard, Chuck's whole rhythm section is straighter than Richard's was most of the time, and it's because of that country influence.
Cool! I'll read that, thanks!
@@MarkZabel there's a copy of the hard cover on eBay right now for just under $19. I highly suggest grabbing that one ASAP, because that's a nice one to have in a book collection. There are some cheaper copies of the paperback edition, but I personally wouldn't trust the bindings on those to hold up for more than about ten more years, and the hard cover I've had for at least 15 years is still holding up really well, and I've read it cover to cover 3 or 4 times, and also glanced through a few times while using it as a reference.
@@chadcollier1070 Thanks!
Hey Mark. Really apprechiate your videos! Always learning something here.
Would love to see you do a tutorial on „How long will it last“ by Eric Gale, Cornell Dupree‘s version that is. 🙏🏼
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, good sir.
Greetings from Germany
Thanks! That's a good suggestion. I'll put it on the list!
Chuck Berry was the father of modern rock guitar, Johnny B Goode and Maybelline changed everything and influenced a whole generation of rock Legends from the sixties in through the 70s. Those licks have been played in thousands of other rock songs.
"Chuck Berry was the father of modern rock guitar" He was very influenced by Pee Wee Crayton, T-Bone Walker, and Carl Hogan. This is Pee Wee in 1954:
ua-cam.com/video/uqp2h65BAs8/v-deo.html
The main difference between Pee Wee and Chuck is Chuck made the pop charts.
Fantastic! More of this, please
You got it!
Love Louis Jordan and Chuck! Thanks for the history.
I'm not sure exactly who said it first, but "good musicians borrow, great musicians steal" certainly fits here. Chuck wrote the book on how to play Rock guitar, and every guitarist owes him a debt.
For sure. Chuck transformed the lick and playing style into something that everyone wanted more of!
Great! I love that! Carl Hogan? This opening Lick is really cool!
Well done. I'm thinking Chuck earned it.👍
Thanks! I think he earned it too - totally! He would dig your name!
I wouldn't call it stealing. More like just pushing the ball down the street. A lot of the licks he does is really no different than what a lot of the piano players were playing in the mid to late 40s as music was heading towards "rock and roll." I've spent a lot of my life listening, researching and collecting records from the largest and smallest names in shuffle blues and pre rock and roll. It's all there.
What chuck did was make a louder, more upbeat and energetic take on what was previously done before. The music for a new generation of kids. I'm sure people at his time did listen to the older guys but I doubt Hipster Gibson records were still blowing up the dancefloor but you bet Chuck Berry records were!
Hi. Thanks for your comments. You're saying much of what I say in the video. No way on earth is it stealing - even though many say doing this sort of thing *IS* stealing - it's not. Licks and music are much more than just the notes played.
(I get a lot of "Clapton just stole BB King licks" or similar comments for Page, Van Halen, etc. I think the same reasoning applies there as well. That's the basic reason I wanted to do this video.)
@@MarkZabel yeah a lot of people often are quick to say "this or that person stole" originality is an intricate idea. No one person can be a pinpoint for a genre. So many people have to contribute. We could always say whoever wrote the first song on a 12 bar blues scale is the originator and everyone who wrote a song on the same scale is a thief, but that isn't a good argument.
Stealing would be more specific as if someone completely ripped Sweet Sixteen and called it Surfing USA haha!
look up the 1956 movie Rock, Rock, Rock which has many stars inc Alan Freed
...and Chuck Berry banging out a few tunes on piano.. yes piano...
which kinda refutes the other claim that Johnnie Johnson HAD to have written those tunes...
because they were piano chords...
If Back To The Future is right then Marty McFly should get royalties, but wait a minute, Marty got it from Chuck to begin with and took it back in time. It's mind bending. Wouldn't that be a case for the lawyers? Thanks Mark, great analysis.
LOL! Thanks.
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Definitely not the same lick Mark, everybody is influenced by something, and Chuck Berry changed everything. That's his song. The Beach Boys another story if you want to argue that one 😅great episode. About 10/ 15 yrs ago my dad & brother sat down next to him in Biloxi, my brother said he was one of the best people he'd ever met. You must love him too ,you've got his playing nailed down with a peg. 🖤Kris IL 🦋 💥🎸💥
Thanks Kris! Yeah, love Chuck Berry. People talk about "underrated guitarists" and rarely mention Chuck. He was one of the absolute best! Great technique but amazing how he totally changed what people did on guitar. Then there's the subject matter of rock - cars, girls, hanging out, etc. That's FANTASTIC your brother and dad met him in Biloxi. He seems like he'd be a great guy.
@@MarkZabel He " got us all to the dance"as you say Mark. My Dad gets furious when I say Chuck was the Real King of RocknRoll & Jhonny Cash taught him how to play guitar😅💣💥
@@krisstieghorst7415 LOL! I agree that Chuck was the real king, but Johnny Cash taught him?? LOL!
Hey, I just saw the Columbo episode with Johnny Cash. It's great! You should check it out if you haven't. Bet you'd like it. Lots of great music in it and the concluding lines are fantastic!!
@@MarkZabel Don't quote me on that, but they were friends. I say it to get a rise out of dad. But they were definitely friends...Love Columbo, that was a great 👍 episode! I don't know how my brother got his hands on it but I've got the whole prison show on CD the concert with the inmates being interviewed ( one maddog killer Richard Speck, who listened from his cell😅) and the guards just waiting for 1 person to break a glass to open fire. He wasn't welcome there by law enforcement( probably because it wasn't his 1st time in the slammer. He was in prison with Merle Haggard too. ) but he kept every dead eyed killer calm even bringing out June in her WHITE dress to join in song, she was nervous.... it might be on Ytube by now. Jhonny Cash EARLY 70s live prison show. Concerning Elvis with the upmost respect, I will say Elvis had alot of help. Right before EDDIE RABBIT passed RIP Eddie 🕯, he and Pam Tilius played in Pekin... my girlfriend Cheryl ( country fan) was STOKED, lol, we kept him playing for ions😅he kept asking for requests and talked to me & Cheryl all through the show, He wrote ALOT of songs for Elvis, I made him sing em😅Cheryl kept yelling Rolling Thunder Eddie!! ⛈ 😅 After the show Pam & Eddie hung out with us & we had a blast. I think that was in 93 or 94. I was reluctant wanted to see PAM & leave I don't like I Love a Rainy Night😅 but I'm glad she encouraged me to stay. I was in shock at all the songs he has written for other artists 🎨 to perform. It's a long list!
Chuck Berry invented rock & roll guitar or wrote the book; Hendrix added a chapter; Van Halen wrote the latest chapter... Just my opinion.
I know I left a couple guys out there but, that's the history of rock & roll "guitar" in one sentence. Best I can do in one sentence... You hear the "CB lick" in a lot of stuff; the Beatles Revolution, etc.
There's some truth to what you've say. Chuck IMHO *definitely* wrote the first chapter. And not only in rock guitar, but in rock period. Energy, speed, different beat, subject matter (kids, cars, girls, hanging out), showmanship. He got it really started.
And yes, the "CB Lick" is everywhere and it forms the basis for 100's of 70s and 80s and 90s and 2000s and 2010s solos. (Crossroads, Whole Lotta Love, Hotel California, Keep Your Hands To Yourself, Cradle Will Rock, Little Sister, and the list goes on and on and on and ...) But Chuck had much more subtlety to his play that's not often appreciated. What he did in Johnny B Goode wasn't merely play new licks. He played a whole different style - beyond what his band mates were aware of - and that's NOT easy. He did other jazzy things too.
No rock guitarist can be any good without knowing some Chuck Berry - really knowing it. It's table stakes for playing rock. He gets nowhere near enough credit as a guitarist.
@@MarkZabel I learned the entire Steve Travato "Chuck Berry Style..." solo; bought the CD back in the day. I spent about a month on three reverse triplets with two notes at the end; very fast part early in the solo... I think it's an excellent "foundation" sort of thing for anyone. Probably on UA-cam; highly recommended! Ya know, just the fact that someone can do a solo "in his style" says it all! Picasso, Santana, Van Gogh, Hendrix, etc. all have a "recognizable style" that they "invented". 😥 whew Rock on! 🤘
Yep, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen when those guitarists came out they changed the face of how guitar was played for a whole generation. I feel those are the three most influential guitarists in rock history.
Don't forget Scotty Moore. In that very first wave of rock & roll, there was Chuck & Scotty leading the way, and both are important.
@@chadcollier1070 I did try to anticipate criticism with the caveat added below. To keep it under a book and distill the thought into one concise sentence... Few will read my sentence and nobody's gonna read my book. I left out my hero Tommy Emmanuel; how can de do that on an acoustic and why not? One of many that consistently impress me.
Great video thanks for the history lesson.
Glad you enjoyed it
love this guy. Gets right to it.
Thanks Mark!
As an older 60s guitar player always love to hear more of the roots of guitar. Recently learned of Bill Jennings. You do teach very well and play. By the way what pickups are on the Les Paul? Is it a stock recent model or something else?
Thank you! This is a 2012 Tribute 1970s Les Paul. The pickups are stock, but I haven't seen them continued. Mini humbuckers with blades instead of pole pieces. I rather like them!
Well yeah, have you seen back to the future? He got those licks from Michael J Fox.
I think you mean Marty McFly. But Marty got them from Chuck, so ... ???
@@MarkZabel lol, Micheal J. Fox is an actor Mark😅 sick burn 🔥 Bill...Mark you walked right into that one....
I would have attributed that lick to Memphis Slim, piano player. As you acknowledge, one of the measues of greatness is influencing those that follow. Hendrix still takes the prize there. Great music. Check out Junior Brown. He's from a different planet. Check out his Kinks riff in the opening of "Freeborn man" ua-cam.com/video/YEhv8OQ7KeM/v-deo.html :50 seconds
Most lead licks then and through the early 60s were originally horn licks - the main lead instruments until full-blown amplification came along and guys like Charlie Christian started pioneering guitar as a lead instrument. In fact, in the solo to "Ain't That Just Like A Woman", Carl Hogan does a number of horn-based licks. The "unison bend" guitar technique is a form of that too, as is BB King's standard doubling the note lick.
Junior Brown is fun to listen to.
Yes Chuck Vary definitely borrowed and stole, as ha traveled around hitch-hiking looking for guitar players, going from town to town. He would ask people if there were any guitar players in town. He would sat that he wanted to be the best guitar player in the world.He would ask the guitar players to show him something on the guitar, the same way he asked me when I was a teen playing on the porch stoop in a small town in Nebraska.
great exposition, well done
Thank you!
what are the chords at 1:38?
What is the Blackstar amp you use? You get great tones on your videos!
Thank you! Believe it or not, it's a Blackstar ID:TVP 15. Great sounding solid state amp, and extremely versatile too.
@@MarkZabel I thought so! There is a 30 nearby for sale and I was considering buying it
@@phatfil77 the new ones seem to have removed one great feature - different tube simulators, which is a feature I really like. Maybe it's still there and I'm missing it. If the price is right on that used TVP30, I'd consider it!
@@MarkZabel $250?
@@phatfil77 Good price if it's in working order. Looks like the new line is called "Silverline". The 20W is $500. So that's a pretty good price.
Who doesn’t love Chuck Berry? Not only was he great rock and roll innovator, isn’t he one of the greatest popular songwriters of all time?
Agree, great!
Always preferred Hendrix at Monterey's version.
Quite compelling. Worth archiving.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
All musicians do this. People need to stop crying that these people stole while defending others. They are all influenced by the music they love and then make their own versions of it. Too many just use their own personal bias to attack one artist while defending another.
Have you ever seen the Berry/Richards documentary where Chuck is scolding him on the bend with the song "Carol"? Chuck kept saying you're playing it wrong all these years and since he wrote it he was right. Hard not to agree with that. Keef though, put up with a lot humbling himself for his idol, including being punched in the face by him. BTW Mark, you always impress me with your effortless guitar playing no matter the song you are replicating.
Thanks a ton Gary! I haven't seen that documentary, but I read Keith's account of Chuck hitting him. Appreciate the kind words Gary!
Yes it was hilarious!!!! Loved it!
I prefer it Keith’s way haha. Bending up into that note as opposed to Chuck’s way of hitting it pre-bent
@@kevinmateblewski9095 Different strokes. That's part of what made Keith great too. Did it his own way.
@@kevinmateblewski9095 After hearing the Stones version so many times it does seem weird the Berry way. I'm conditioned to hear it that way and I do like it too.
Think what you want but zi will take Chuck's own words on it. " I "took" a little from here and a little from there but there is nothing new under then sun."
gold
Thanks! Glad you dug.
He took the opening chord for School Days from Meade Lux Lewis' Honky Tonk Train. I would say not that he stole it, just was inspired by it. HERE'S the biggest clue to Chuck's career: ua-cam.com/video/PegRaOTsNFg/v-deo.html He only mentioned Tampa once in an interview about who influenced him! Carl Hogan and Charlie Christian were the other two. Johnnie Johnson, his piano player, was a HUGE influence on Chuck, so much so his songs were pitched in piano keys which led to speculation that Johnnie should've received writing credit on several songs. Johnnie, sadly ended up actually suing him acting on bad advice-of course he lost. Now both are dead.
Artists are often quite sensitive when they mention influences and often with good reason! I'm with you 100% that Chuck, while influenced by others, created things of his own. That's natural, and the concept here is that so many people say "Clapton stole that from Freddie" or "Page stole that from B.B." or "Keith stole that from Chuck", so I wanted to show that even with Chuck it didn't come from nowhere. The lick that Carl Hogan played is so close note-wise, but Chuck really changed it and pointed to the future. IMHO Chuck more than deserves his place in the pantheon of rock guitar greats!
Does he really bend that 3rd string or slide into it on the Eb section ?Cause it sounds like a slide on the record
We all learn from each other. Is'nt it???
Yes, but some people copy while others are influenced and add their own new ideas. That's what Chuck did - he added so many new ideas that it became totally new music. WAY beyond what most other professionals (let alone we amateurs) do.
Because he did not use pedals I put Chuck the #1 guitarist in a league of his own (ahead of Jimi Hendrix and Noel Gallagher)!!!!!
Goree Carter anyone ?
Several Chuck Berry songs were fashioned after the piano composition of Jonny Johnson the piano player with the band. Chuck was an innovator. If not for him I probably wouldn't be a guitar player.
Yep, great innovator and great performer.
the piano influence might have been the reason that chuck did so many songs in keys other than "a" and "e". i made a list of 12 of his biggest hits, and NOT ONE was in either of those keys. lots of local "cover" bands, with guitars and no keys, usually did them in "a"- seemed easier. just something i noticed, over the years.
Chuck said himself he got it from the intro to boogie woogie bugle boy.
Really? If you mean the hit by The Andrews Sisters, I don't really hear any licks that are similar. Would be good to get a reference on when Chuck said that. I couldn't find one. I'd really appreciate the reference, because it's intriguing!
A number of references point to "Ain't That A Woman." And that guitar opening really does sound like Johnny B Goode. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t_That_Just_Like_a_Woman_(They%27ll_Do_It_Every_Time)
In hail hail rock and roll. From the man himself. He said he took a little of this, a little of that. Nothing new under the sun. Keith Richard said he thinks Johnny Johnson wrote a lot of the songs or was a major contributor. Look at the keys the songs are in. Bb? Not a guitar key. No open strings like A, E or D. Bb is a piano key.
@@Bullittbl no, it's well known that Chuck copied the intro to Ain't That Just Like A Woman by Louis Jordan, not the friggin' Andrews Sisters. He may have gotten little things here and there from a wide variety of sources, but this intro came directly from that Louis Jordan song. And I've seen Hail! Hail! Rock & Roll a number of times, including just last week, and I don't remember him ever mentioning The Andrews Sisters at all, for anything.
Ok. You win the internet today. I still hated the implication he stole anything while he always acknowledged his influences. Who the fuck wasn't influenced by someone? Fucking click bait bullshit.
@@Bullittbl Thanks Brian. I'll check it out.
Ofc- we have all seen back to the future?
To me was a huge deal !! Great video.
Thanks!!
I´ve always considered Rock/Blues guitar playing as dummied-down and re-purposed Jazz guitar.
@ Steve Skinner " Golden " ! ! !
Chuck Berry invented rock&roll
He was the king
Yessir!
Where “rock and roll” begins, and blues, country, rockabilly leaves off is difficult to determine. Chuck definitely influenced early R&R guitar players (but you can hear his rhythm in early blues artists way before him, and even Louis Jordan) but so did Scotty Moore, Carl Perkins, etc. Elvis didn’t start it, but he was immersed in it; his incredible delivery, and well over a hundred rock and roll hits, flexibility, qualifies him.
To me this Louie Jordan lick sounds more like Chuck's " Back in the USA "
Okay. Same basic lick. Chuck uses more minor pentatonic notes in that one. It's a bit bluesier.
@@MarkZabel great lesson by the way... I think you also made a very important distinction between jump blues and rock n roll
@@guyvelvet1980 Thanks Guy!
The only real thief I am aware of in music is Carl Perkins.
Hmm, quite a few more I think ... or borderline so ... BUT Chuck is, IMHO, not one of them. He may have played (almost) the same notes, but it's a totally different feel and attack! Chuck was the real deal.
Well if Chuck did that in 2024 he would be sued violating music copyrights and all the money he made would be gone. Period.
Yeah I heard that Carl Hogan tune only once about 20 years ago on ABC Radio.
I had to pull over. Surely this couldn't be - but it was.
I've heard Chuck himself say this riff is a combination of three guitar player styles including T Bone Walker. But I'm not sure he mentioned Hogan.
Oh well it's too late now.
I always loved this sound of Chuck's but it doesn't surprise me he stole it without. He wasn't a very nice person in fact he seemed quite perverted. I won't give details other than to say they were scatalogical.
Aside from this any fans should check out Hail Hail Rock'n'roll - especially the outtakes on the two extra length DVDs. Chuck was a real prick to everyone including Keith. Keith the only person who could out Chuck Chuck lol. And Keith revered him and inducted him into the Rock'n'roll Hall of Fame.
Chuck is the person I know who could ring people on public phones. True. Watch the documentary. The concert was Keith's tribute to Chuck for his 60th birthday.
Etta James kicks arse.
So does Linda Ronstadt.
Who said Rock'n'roll was a man's world?
Bloody idiot.
Oh btw Steve Jordan really gets hurt by Chuck too.
Watch the documentary - the extended versions.
Peace humans.
interesting!
Glad you think so!
his cousin marvin was instrumental in him stealing this song.
Berry admitting to the "influence" a full 60 years after the fact, after any statute of limitations might have expired, isn't that great in my book. But my book don't count for anything
That's what guitarists do. Everybody steals riffs.
The lick predates Carl Hogan. Can't remember who though.
If you find out who, it would be great if you posted a link!
There’s a piano riff from 1929 that more note for note to Johnny B Goode.
But did Carl Hogan have the Duck Walk? I think not. (Though I guess Chuck got that from T-Bone Walker!) Chuck definitely made it his own though.
Ha ha!
Stole it! I see a law suite on the way and I’d rather be lawyer for Jordan!
LOL! I think that ship has sailed.
@@MarkZabel lol only If a time limit exists which it likely does, worth a try
Chuck Berry made a career off that lick. All the rock 'n' roll historians gave him all the credit, never knowing that he lifted it from the Luis Jordan song (not very good experts). Chuck never gave credit to Louis Jordan. Citing influences is not the same as giving writing credits and royalties. Ask all the rock acts that were forced by courts to pay early artists for using modified versions of their riffs or melodies.
The history of Rock 'n' Roll gives him all the credit for the genre. ua-cam.com/video/v0tnU-KcTCM/v-deo.htmlsi=aPnpuXoMe7SAOlj8&t=55
It looks like it to me.
It was marty mcfly
You can't discuss Chuck Berry without addressing Goree Carter. Somebody made vague mention of him in the comments here a couple of months ago but it got no attention at all.
Listen to his 1949 track "Rock Awhile" that predates Chuck Berry but has Berry style playing. It might even qualify for the first rock and roll song ever recorded.
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Stolen from Calvin Klein.
Steal???????
No.
Borrow and make more famous.