It's a lovely church. Where is this edifice? The Anglican Communion is small and precious. That's why I love my Church. I don't care how many people attend! It's more then crowds and what's in style. It's a trance for me to be in Heaven on this plane.
Paul Wheeler Thank you Paul. It's a lovely Sanctuary. Please add some more vids to UA-cam. It's very prayerful at the end of a day to end the night with some beautiful hymns. I happen to enjoy more the homemade video's. The professional vids are staged, and devoid of the spirit of a oneness with the world in worship. I live at Philadelphia. St. Clement Parish.
@frenchmotorbike The Queen doesn't replace Jesus, she replaces the Pope as head of the church. The Anglican church was formed when Henry VIII broke away from the papacy in 1538 and appointed himself and his successors head of the Church of England. In most respects the Anglican church is similar to the Catholic church, except that Anglican priests can marry, and they reject the doctrine of transubstantiation. In practice the Archbishop of Canterbury is the head of the church.
You make it sound as if Henry did what he did on a whim. In fact he was looking for release from an infertile marriage and the Pope refused to allow it because Catherine of Aragon was a relative of the Holy Roman Emperor, who was actually holding Clement prisoner at the time in the Castel St Angelo in Rome. Clement had previously allowed divorces for 3 Papal dukes, so Henry was understandably miffed and went ahead with his own divorce. Clement then excommunicated Henry so Henry formed the CofE.
Henry's Church in England, was brought back to Rome by his daughter Mary I. It was actually the Queen & Parliament who separated the Church of England finally from Rome in 1599. Her main reasons seemed to be that she thought the people of England would be better off under her tyranny rather than the Pope's
The Pope granted Henry a dispensation (for state reasons) that allowed him to marry his brother's widow. Then Henry asked him to grant a dispensation of the dispensation, also for "state reasons", that he might divorce her. No wonder the Pope balked. Henry broke with Rome in quest of a male heir, not to reform the English Church. Many died, and much was destroyed in this quest. Ironically, his daughter Elizabeth proved to be a GOOD monarch. His break with Rome over a male heir proved pointless.
It's definitely "no wonder the Pope balked". Henry VIII was seeking a divorce from Catherine of Aragon who was the aunt of Charles V the man who was causing Pope Clement VII to take refuge in the Castle St Angelo. That's why Henry didn't get what he wanted.
Plenty of comments on here stating that the Catholic Church doesn't recognise the Church of England as a Church in the true sense of the word. It matters not what the Catholic Church or Pope believes or any other human being for that matter. It matters what God alone recognises and God alone. Sin can only be removed by God and God alone. Priests are there to teach of the life of Christ & to lead a righteous life, they are not God. To not recognise CofE is not very Christian is it.
They are Church of England, that is reformed catholic. They are not Roman Catholic, they are Catholic. They do not come under the authority of Rome or the Pope. Anglo Catholic are Anglicans who like the traditions and ceremonies of the Catholic heritage, but who maintain there separate church and allow clergy to marry etc.
They Anglo-catholics are NOT Catholic,but Anglicans who express their catholic history.They are NOT united with Rome and therefore,not Catholic in the true sense.they are just high church instead of low church
Charity please! No one can judge. Our Anglican brothers have the full right to use prayers and liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church because they belong to the same tradition and ancestry therefore no one can deprive them of their rightful lcatholic legacy
We are Catholic, just not Roman Catholic. In aspects of doctrine we are aligned with you Roman Catholics in many ways, but as protestants we do reject certain doctrines. I love the Anglican faith. We are a medium way between extreme Catholicism and extreme protestant faith.
@@johnking5174 The Anglican church is not catholic at all. They kept the bells and whistles but threw out the engine. Threw out the eucharistology, the mariology, the ecclesiology, the papacy, and pretty much all Catholic doctrines. They are essentially just another Protestant denomination with a severe identity crisis.
@@mosesking2923 We are Catholic, just not "Roman" Catholic. I am proud of my church, in the same way you are proud of yours. And that is how it will stay.
@@johnking5174 Nope, you are not catholic in any sense of the world. Your church's entire Oxford movement is a pathetic attempt at revisionist history. You throw out all the doctrines of the Catholic church and decide to bow under a dictator monarch, and you have the gall to say that you're still Catholic? Just sad.
@@johnking5174 Let me break it down to you. Your church denies transubstantiation, denies Mary and the saints, allows divorce and remarriage, allows homosexuality and transgender disorders, and denies the papacy in favor of a heretical monarch. If St. Augustine of Canterbury were alive today, he would not recognize your church at all. You stopped being Catholic when you embraced heresy and bowed to King Henry VIII. Be a man and own it.
Interesting worship, I am an atheist though, so no idea of what is going on, but recently went to a Catholic Church for a wedding and it was like a circus, where even the priest was dancing, kinda disturbing. Not sure if this is the typical Anglican but it is interesting to see.
Dan C Unfortunatly the Catholic Church has been split between High Mass and Low Mass, High Mass being traditional and Low Mass being not so traditional. Then there's somewhere in between which is most Novus Ordo Churches I go to. As for Anglican Services that I have yet to see for myself.
Is it not true that Henry V111 started the anglican church beause the pope told him he could not kill or separate from his wife just because she could not have a son for him.I mean dont get me wrong its a beautiful church in all but REALLY.
@thekroton At no point in these 39 articles which you so revere do they state that this is a protestant church. We are in catholic order. We have the threefold ministry of Bishops Preists and Deacons in apolstolic sucession. Infact during the reformation great pains were taken to ensure our apostolic sucession. I suggest you read Tract 99, and find our more about the church you are a member of. You may be Protestant but this church isn't. There's room in the Church for both of us.
Catholic Church was the first Christian church. How do we have false gospel? Protestants are the ones that read the King James Version which was revised and had books taken out by King James himself.
+Daniel Maggio No, the apostles were the first church. Roman Catholicism did not fully form together until the 4th century, with all the man made bits thrown together over the centuries. Please, do not stand there and lecture on the bible, as it was the papist church which never allowed the bible to be read in the language which people could read, it was protestants who gave ordinary people the opportunity and the right to read it in their own language without a church holding on to it, and not letting their people read it because they would find out that what they celebrate was not in the bible, purgatory, worshipping of Mary, immaculate conception, the assumption, veneration of relics, priestly celibacy, and the list goes on.
+John King The slander and Ad Hominem displayed in your comment is so typical of one who's premises do not stand on their own. The apostles were the 'first church' but that church was the Catholic Church instituted by Christ at Caeserea Philippi (Matthew 16-18) 'Thou art Peter; etc. Your history also seems misguided. Although for a long time, the bible was written in Latin, and Latin was used in churches, the Catholic Church never forbade accurate translations of the Bible into the vernacular. Before Luther butchered the Bible, there had already been 20 versions of the Bible translated into various German dialects by Catholics. The Catholic 'Douay-Rheims Bible was translated into English in 1610, a year prior to the publication of the 'King James' Bible. At that point in history, the vast majority of people were illiterate. Those who could read were only the very highly educated who could also read Latin (spoken quite commonly among intellectuals). Lest I also remind you that it was the Catholic Church that compiled the canon of the Bible. In addition to this, your grasp of 'sola scriptura' slips up on the fact that not even the Bible claims such a false doctrine. Where does Christ or the apostles say that all things a Christian must practice is in the Bible? Indeed the Bible even states otherwise in 2 Thess 3:6 where it states "Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the TRADITION that you received from us". There is a Biblical foundation for purgatory in I Corinthians 3:11-15, II Maccabees 12:39-46 and more. In fact all of your 'criticisms' have Biblical or traditionally Christian roots. Oh and Catholics DON'T worship Mary. We venerate her as the Mother of God. Our worship belongs to God alone. It seems as though the 'man made' label should be claimed by Protestants whose so called 'churches' were made by men: Luther, Calvin, Henry VIII and countless other heretics. As for Catholics however, we rest easy knowing that, historically and empirically, our Church was founded by Christ.
I am not going to be lectured here by obvious blind sighted papist. St Peter and the Roman Church is a very loose link, with man made evidence by popes trying to fit Peter in Israel to Rome. There is no Purgatory, take another look in your bible. You do worship Mary, constantly giving here titles, in your rosary there are TEN hail Marys in and just ONE Our Father in a decade, plus you bow and scrape to statues of her and make up the false story she was a virgin for the rest of her life, where in fact it states Jesus had brothers. Let me remind you that the term Catholic is used by Anglicans, as it means universal and not Roman. Anglicans are Catholics, just not Roman under the heel of popes. How can you defend also your church idolatry, kissing relics, keeping vials of saints bloods and bones. Venerating a casket of a dead body of say Padre Pio, revolting. How can you defend your church on their teaching of the sacrifice of the mass, Jesus did the sacrifice ONCE and FOR ALL on the cross and no Mass will ever recreate it no matter how many you say. The Mass, where you believe Jesus is truly present in the wafer and wine is pure nonsense. Yes Jesus said "eat my flesh" but speaking metaphorically, in the same way he told us if we sin we must cut off our arm or gouge out our eyes, metaphors. "IN MEMORY OF ME" is the key wording for the Eucharist, not having him utterly present, trapped in wafer, locked in tabernacles and paraded in monstrances, utter vile nonsense. Celibate clergy, papal infallibility, praying to saints (THERE IS ONLY ONE INTERCESSOR - JESUS CHRIST), honouring dead corpses by placing them on display, relics, indulgences (WHERE YOU GET REMISSION OFF SIN BECAUSE OF A PRAYER OR DEED, NONSENSE), yeah 10 years of purgatory for saying a prayer for the pope, wow, ten years off time in a place which does not exist and if it did time would not exist either. How can you defend a paedophile ridden, hypocritical, cowardly, child abusing, ego centric, ego maniac church, you have the audacity to moan about Henry VIII, at least he was of human nature and of course had wrongs, as all men have, but your church put itself on a par with God, and now it is crashing around you. I will give you one credit, you have nerve.
+John King Yet again, Ad Hominem and blind verbal diarrhea has got you nowhere. You say the Catholic Church is 'crashing' around me and yet I only see a decline is Anglicanism whereas statistics show growth in Catholicism globally. You tirade against a 'paedophile ridden' church when the Church of England has statistically more abusers within it as 'The Guardian' and 'Daily Mail' newspapers as well as Crime Statistics from ONS point out. You obviously are not a theologically learned man as the Bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek and so the 'brothers and sisters' of Christ were either 'cousins' or 'close friends'. Go and do some learning. With regard to the Holy Eucharist, we do believe that Jesus died ONCE and FOR ALL on the cross, but as you say, Do this in memory of me. We commemorate the Eucharist as Christ said to do during the Last Supper. Yet the Last Supper, signifies the sacrifice of the lamb during passover, made poignant by Christ's crucifixion the next day. Without the institution of the Eucharist, the apostles would not have understood the semblance between what was the sacrifice for them as Jews (The Passover - Last Supper) and the Roman execution (Crucifixion). I also attach this link for you to read about why the Eucharist is truly the Body and Blood of Christ www.catholic.com/tracts/christ-in-the-eucharist. All early Christians as well as the apostles knew that when Christ said this is my body and blood he did not say so 'metaphorically'. This is the one time in the Bible where Christ gave no rebuke nor correction when many of his followers left him (like you) saying 'how can this man give his flesh for us to eat?'. With regard to purgatory, you offer no valid counterpoint. And to say 'take another look at your bible' after I have just provided you two valid quotes' is rather desperate. Anglicans as well as other Protestant denominations, all 45,000 (and counting) of you are the heretics. It's okay though, demographically speaking Anglicansim is a dying breed globally and according to UK trends gathered by the 2011 census, your denomination will be extant by 2060. Bon voyage.
Anglican Communion has nearly 90 Million members. Try doing some research too. 45,000 is your way of being a moron. 1 Billion Roman Catholics, but how many actually attend? I will give you a case study. My family are from Londonderry, Northern Ireland. The Roman Catholic Diocese of Derry has 51 parishes covering a Roman Catholic population of around 100,000 people. In 1992, there were 152 serving priests for 51 parishes. Attendances at mass at 80%. In 2002, there were 120 serving priests for 51 parishes. Attendances at mass at 60%. In 2012, there were 85 serving priests for 51 parishes. Attendances at mass at 35%. That is just in my native city. I think your religion is on the decline. Research shows that an ageing priesthood, and a population who has lost faith in their hypocritical paedophile ridden church shows a shocking loss of attendance at mass and numbers dying off. In my case study, the Catholic diocese has had to merge parishes as numbers attending are so low and the number of clergy available to service is very low. In my case study, the Parish of the Three Patrons in the city was three churches dedicated to St Joseph, St Brigid and St Patrick. In 1992 there were 4 priests based in each church. In 2002 there were 3 priests based in each church. In 2012 there are 1 priest based in each church. So from my research, and I have researched, you can take that smug arrogant look off your face, and know your church is the one dying off in huge numbers. I am NOT saying the Anglican faith is rising, of course not. But your figures from your own dioceses do not show a surge in your faith.
beautiful, truly, but versus populum? awe i was hoping for the more common ad orientem posture. that is my experience with the Anglican High Church at least (admittedly it isnt alot i guess) ill keep praying for all Anglo-Catholics to come closer and closer to rome now that benedict has cleared the way for you. God bless, and bring that glorious liturgy with you please!.
Christianity came to Britian with the Romans but had to be re established after the saxon invasion. Anglicanism goes back to St Augustine and is not a break away from Rome. The pope was just removed as its head and then it was reformed. A good mix of catholic and protestant as per the Elizabethan settlement. It has always practice the catholic faith as does every church. The worst of RC removed and it became what the RC could have been at the reformation.
Read ur own Roman Church history before criticize Anglican Church ! U know why england want break with rome because Rome are too Greedy and abuse of power ! study ur history before u say so
This is low Anglican, You're misleading people! According to my BCP, You should be facing the Alter, the response should be and with your/thy spirit, It is right and meet so to do, and so forth. This sounds/looks like you're using the Book of Alternative Services.
It's a lovely church. Where is this edifice? The Anglican Communion is small and precious. That's why I love my Church. I don't care how many people attend! It's more then crowds and what's in style. It's a trance for me to be in Heaven on this plane.
We're in Chester, in the United Kingdom
Paul Wheeler
Thank you Paul. It's a lovely Sanctuary. Please add some more vids to UA-cam. It's very prayerful at the end of a day to end the night with some beautiful hymns. I happen to enjoy more the homemade video's. The professional vids are staged, and devoid of the spirit of a oneness with the world in worship.
I live at Philadelphia. St. Clement Parish.
David Bell it is increadibly similar to the mass in a Latin Catholic Church.
A beautiful altar frontal is a great feature primarily unique to of the Anglican Church.
@BroMikeey it's from the 'Gathering Mass' Walsingham use it too. Although you need your running shoes, they play it a bit fast
@HerrKatzenvater It must be because of that the altar is not placed against the wall, which is a bit old if the church is not a new one.
@frenchmotorbike The Queen doesn't replace Jesus, she replaces the Pope as head of the church. The Anglican church was formed when Henry VIII broke away from the papacy in 1538 and appointed himself and his successors head of the Church of England. In most respects the Anglican church is similar to the Catholic church, except that Anglican priests can marry, and they reject the doctrine of transubstantiation. In practice the Archbishop of Canterbury is the head of the church.
You make it sound as if Henry did what he did on a whim. In fact he was looking for release from an infertile marriage and the Pope refused to allow it because Catherine of Aragon was a relative of the Holy Roman Emperor, who was actually holding Clement prisoner at the time in the Castel St Angelo in Rome. Clement had previously allowed divorces for 3 Papal dukes, so Henry was understandably miffed and went ahead with his own divorce. Clement then excommunicated Henry so Henry formed the CofE.
What's the name of the tune\piece of the sanctus?
How i miss the anglican missal.
Pity they have novelty of offering mass facing west instead of east
Henry's Church in England, was brought back to Rome by his daughter Mary I. It was actually the Queen & Parliament who separated the Church of England finally from Rome in 1599.
Her main reasons seemed to be that she thought the people of England would be better off under her tyranny rather than the Pope's
Paul Wheeler ‘
I recognise the sanctus- we sing it at our all age eucharists at our church-but what is it?
is there anyone who can guide me?
The Pope granted Henry a dispensation (for state reasons) that allowed him to marry his brother's widow. Then Henry asked him to grant a dispensation of the dispensation, also for "state reasons", that he might divorce her. No wonder the Pope balked. Henry broke with Rome in quest of a male heir, not to reform the English Church. Many died, and much was destroyed in this quest. Ironically, his daughter Elizabeth proved to be a GOOD monarch. His break with Rome over a male heir proved pointless.
It's definitely "no wonder the Pope balked".
Henry VIII was seeking a divorce from Catherine of Aragon who was the aunt of Charles V the man who was causing Pope Clement VII to take refuge in the Castle St Angelo. That's why Henry didn't get what he wanted.
@fadge54 It's from 'The Gathering Mass'
whats the name of the tune piece of the sanctus
Hi there, what is the name of the mass setting used in the video?
***** Thanks. Any idea about the Sanctus? Is it the same as Peter Jones' Gloria?
It's from 'The Gathering Mass'
Why not ad orientem posture, both the priest and people facing God together?
Why don´t they celebrate in front of the altar?
show me the way to achieve my god
Plenty of comments on here stating that the Catholic Church doesn't recognise the Church of England as a Church in the true sense of the word. It matters not what the Catholic Church or Pope believes or any other human being for that matter. It matters what God alone recognises and God alone. Sin can only be removed by God and God alone.
Priests are there to teach of the life of Christ & to lead a righteous life, they are not God. To not recognise CofE is not very Christian is it.
Why are people arguing about who is Catholic and who isn't. No person other than GOD can judge. Judging anyone is explicitly forbidden by CHRIST.
BECAUSE THEY ARE HERETICS WHO NEED TO BE CATHOLIC!
What is an "Anglo-catholic" parish ? ANd what kind of "service" is that video ?
They are Church of England, that is reformed catholic. They are not Roman Catholic, they are Catholic. They do not come under the authority of Rome or the Pope. Anglo Catholic are Anglicans who like the traditions and ceremonies of the Catholic heritage, but who maintain there separate church and allow clergy to marry etc.
Jean Dominicus Anglo Catholic = Church of England = Protestants who pretend to be Catholic. That's the gist of it.
They Anglo-catholics are NOT Catholic,but Anglicans who express their catholic history.They are NOT united with Rome and therefore,not Catholic in the true sense.they are just high church instead of low church
Charity please! No one can judge. Our Anglican brothers have the full right to use prayers and liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church because they belong to the same tradition and ancestry therefore no one can deprive them of their rightful lcatholic legacy
We are Catholic, just not Roman Catholic. In aspects of doctrine we are aligned with you Roman Catholics in many ways, but as protestants we do reject certain doctrines. I love the Anglican faith. We are a medium way between extreme Catholicism and extreme protestant faith.
@@johnking5174 The Anglican church is not catholic at all. They kept the bells and whistles but threw out the engine. Threw out the eucharistology, the mariology, the ecclesiology, the papacy, and pretty much all Catholic doctrines. They are essentially just another Protestant denomination with a severe identity crisis.
@@mosesking2923 We are Catholic, just not "Roman" Catholic. I am proud of my church, in the same way you are proud of yours. And that is how it will stay.
@@johnking5174 Nope, you are not catholic in any sense of the world. Your church's entire Oxford movement is a pathetic attempt at revisionist history. You throw out all the doctrines of the Catholic church and decide to bow under a dictator monarch, and you have the gall to say that you're still Catholic? Just sad.
@@johnking5174 Let me break it down to you. Your church denies transubstantiation, denies Mary and the saints, allows divorce and remarriage, allows homosexuality and transgender disorders, and denies the papacy in favor of a heretical monarch. If St. Augustine of Canterbury were alive today, he would not recognize your church at all. You stopped being Catholic when you embraced heresy and bowed to King Henry VIII. Be a man and own it.
Interesting worship, I am an atheist though, so no idea of what is going on, but recently went to a Catholic Church for a wedding and it was like a circus, where even the priest was dancing, kinda disturbing. Not sure if this is the typical Anglican but it is interesting to see.
Dan C Unfortunatly the Catholic Church has been split between High Mass and Low Mass, High Mass being traditional and Low Mass being not so traditional. Then there's somewhere in between which is most Novus Ordo Churches I go to. As for Anglican Services that I have yet to see for myself.
Is it not true that Henry V111 started the anglican church beause the pope told him he could not kill or separate from his wife just because she could not have a son for him.I mean dont get me wrong its a beautiful church in all but REALLY.
father please aap god se pray karna ke mera pyar thik ho Jay o buri aadate chod de smoking and other please aap pray karna
Year 9 GCSE RE anyone?
@thekroton At no point in these 39 articles which you so revere do they state that this is a protestant church. We are in catholic order. We have the threefold ministry of Bishops Preists and Deacons in apolstolic sucession. Infact during the reformation great pains were taken to ensure our apostolic sucession. I suggest you read Tract 99, and find our more about the church you are a member of. You may be Protestant but this church isn't. There's room in the Church for both of us.
Catholic Church was the first Christian church. How do we have false gospel? Protestants are the ones that read the King James Version which was revised and had books taken out by King James himself.
+Daniel Maggio No, the apostles were the first church. Roman Catholicism did not fully form together until the 4th century, with all the man made bits thrown together over the centuries. Please, do not stand there and lecture on the bible, as it was the papist church which never allowed the bible to be read in the language which people could read, it was protestants who gave ordinary people the opportunity and the right to read it in their own language without a church holding on to it, and not letting their people read it because they would find out that what they celebrate was not in the bible, purgatory, worshipping of Mary, immaculate conception, the assumption, veneration of relics, priestly celibacy, and the list goes on.
+John King The slander and Ad Hominem displayed in your comment is so typical of one who's premises do not stand on their own. The apostles were the 'first church' but that church was the Catholic Church instituted by Christ at Caeserea Philippi (Matthew 16-18) 'Thou art Peter; etc. Your history also seems misguided. Although for a long time, the bible was written in Latin, and Latin was used in churches, the Catholic Church never forbade accurate translations of the Bible into the vernacular. Before Luther butchered the Bible, there had already been 20 versions of the Bible translated into various German dialects by Catholics. The Catholic 'Douay-Rheims Bible was translated into English in 1610, a year prior to the publication of the 'King James' Bible. At that point in history, the vast majority of people were illiterate. Those who could read were only the very highly educated who could also read Latin (spoken quite commonly among intellectuals).
Lest I also remind you that it was the Catholic Church that compiled the canon of the Bible. In addition to this, your grasp of 'sola scriptura' slips up on the fact that not even the Bible claims such a false doctrine. Where does Christ or the apostles say that all things a Christian must practice is in the Bible? Indeed the Bible even states otherwise in 2 Thess 3:6 where it states "Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the TRADITION that you received from us". There is a Biblical foundation for purgatory in I Corinthians 3:11-15, II Maccabees 12:39-46 and more. In fact all of your 'criticisms' have Biblical or traditionally Christian roots. Oh and Catholics DON'T worship Mary. We venerate her as the Mother of God. Our worship belongs to God alone.
It seems as though the 'man made' label should be claimed by Protestants whose so called 'churches' were made by men: Luther, Calvin, Henry VIII and countless other heretics. As for Catholics however, we rest easy knowing that, historically and empirically, our Church was founded by Christ.
I am not going to be lectured here by obvious blind sighted papist.
St Peter and the Roman Church is a very loose link, with man made evidence by popes trying to fit Peter in Israel to Rome.
There is no Purgatory, take another look in your bible. You do worship Mary, constantly giving here titles, in your rosary there are TEN hail Marys in and just ONE Our Father in a decade, plus you bow and scrape to statues of her and make up the false story she was a virgin for the rest of her life, where in fact it states Jesus had brothers.
Let me remind you that the term Catholic is used by Anglicans, as it means universal and not Roman. Anglicans are Catholics, just not Roman under the heel of popes.
How can you defend also your church idolatry, kissing relics, keeping vials of saints bloods and bones. Venerating a casket of a dead body of say Padre Pio, revolting.
How can you defend your church on their teaching of the sacrifice of the mass, Jesus did the sacrifice ONCE and FOR ALL on the cross and no Mass will ever recreate it no matter how many you say.
The Mass, where you believe Jesus is truly present in the wafer and wine is pure nonsense. Yes Jesus said "eat my flesh" but speaking metaphorically, in the same way he told us if we sin we must cut off our arm or gouge out our eyes, metaphors. "IN MEMORY OF ME" is the key wording for the Eucharist, not having him utterly present, trapped in wafer, locked in tabernacles and paraded in monstrances, utter vile nonsense.
Celibate clergy, papal infallibility, praying to saints (THERE IS ONLY ONE INTERCESSOR - JESUS CHRIST), honouring dead corpses by placing them on display, relics, indulgences (WHERE YOU GET REMISSION OFF SIN BECAUSE OF A PRAYER OR DEED, NONSENSE), yeah 10 years of purgatory for saying a prayer for the pope, wow, ten years off time in a place which does not exist and if it did time would not exist either.
How can you defend a paedophile ridden, hypocritical, cowardly, child abusing, ego centric, ego maniac church, you have the audacity to moan about Henry VIII, at least he was of human nature and of course had wrongs, as all men have, but your church put itself on a par with God, and now it is crashing around you.
I will give you one credit, you have nerve.
+John King
Yet again, Ad Hominem and blind verbal diarrhea has got you nowhere.
You say the Catholic Church is 'crashing' around me and yet I only see a decline is Anglicanism whereas statistics show growth in Catholicism globally.
You tirade against a 'paedophile ridden' church when the Church of England has statistically more abusers within it as 'The Guardian' and 'Daily Mail' newspapers as well as Crime Statistics from ONS point out.
You obviously are not a theologically learned man as the Bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek and so the 'brothers and sisters' of Christ were either 'cousins' or 'close friends'. Go and do some learning.
With regard to the Holy Eucharist, we do believe that Jesus died ONCE and FOR ALL on the cross, but as you say, Do this in memory of me. We commemorate the Eucharist as Christ said to do during the Last Supper. Yet the Last Supper, signifies the sacrifice of the lamb during passover, made poignant by Christ's crucifixion the next day. Without the institution of the Eucharist, the apostles would not have understood the semblance between what was the sacrifice for them as Jews (The Passover - Last Supper) and the Roman execution (Crucifixion). I also attach this link for you to read about why the Eucharist is truly the Body and Blood of Christ www.catholic.com/tracts/christ-in-the-eucharist. All early Christians as well as the apostles knew that when Christ said this is my body and blood he did not say so 'metaphorically'. This is the one time in the Bible where Christ gave no rebuke nor correction when many of his followers left him (like you) saying 'how can this man give his flesh for us to eat?'.
With regard to purgatory, you offer no valid counterpoint. And to say 'take another look at your bible' after I have just provided you two valid quotes' is rather desperate.
Anglicans as well as other Protestant denominations, all 45,000 (and counting) of you are the heretics. It's okay though, demographically speaking Anglicansim is a dying breed globally and according to UK trends gathered by the 2011 census, your denomination will be extant by 2060. Bon voyage.
Anglican Communion has nearly 90 Million members. Try doing some research too. 45,000 is your way of being a moron.
1 Billion Roman Catholics, but how many actually attend?
I will give you a case study. My family are from Londonderry, Northern Ireland. The Roman Catholic Diocese of Derry has 51 parishes covering a Roman Catholic population of around 100,000 people.
In 1992, there were 152 serving priests for 51 parishes. Attendances at mass at 80%.
In 2002, there were 120 serving priests for 51 parishes. Attendances at mass at 60%.
In 2012, there were 85 serving priests for 51 parishes. Attendances at mass at 35%.
That is just in my native city. I think your religion is on the decline.
Research shows that an ageing priesthood, and a population who has lost faith in their hypocritical paedophile ridden church shows a shocking loss of attendance at mass and numbers dying off.
In my case study, the Catholic diocese has had to merge parishes as numbers attending are so low and the number of clergy available to service is very low.
In my case study, the Parish of the Three Patrons in the city was three churches dedicated to St Joseph, St Brigid and St Patrick.
In 1992 there were 4 priests based in each church.
In 2002 there were 3 priests based in each church.
In 2012 there are 1 priest based in each church.
So from my research, and I have researched, you can take that smug arrogant look off your face, and know your church is the one dying off in huge numbers.
I am NOT saying the Anglican faith is rising, of course not. But your figures from your own dioceses do not show a surge in your faith.
Have Anglicans adapted the ICE new mass translation yet?
beautiful, truly, but versus populum? awe i was hoping for the more common ad orientem posture. that is my experience with the Anglican High Church at least (admittedly it isnt alot i guess) ill keep praying for all Anglo-Catholics to come closer and closer to rome now that benedict has cleared the way for you. God bless, and bring that glorious liturgy with you please!.
@BroMikeey Paul Inwood
Christianity came to Britian with the Romans but had to be re established after the saxon invasion. Anglicanism goes back to St Augustine and is not a break away from Rome. The pope was just removed as its head and then it was reformed. A good mix of catholic and protestant as per the Elizabethan settlement. It has always practice the catholic faith as does every church. The worst of RC removed and it became what the RC could have been at the reformation.
Shush.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to give up Anglicanism for Rome...
Maybe because unlike you, they aren't content with their heresy.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to give up agnosticism for "faith".
Facing west? Oh deary me.
shouldn't it be "and with thy spirit" being high church?
The priestly ordinations are invalid because they changed the priestly ordination (no apostolic succession); therefore, no valid eucharist. Heresy.
The Council of Trent was called to do away with the vernacular nonsense.
Vernacular>latin
What is this western-facing nonsense? This is not high mass.
Read ur own Roman Church history before criticize Anglican Church ! U know why england want break with rome because Rome are too Greedy and abuse of power ! study ur history before u say so
This is low Anglican, You're misleading people! According to my BCP, You should be facing the Alter, the response should be and with your/thy spirit, It is right and meet so to do, and so forth. This sounds/looks like you're using the Book of Alternative Services.