WARNING! These DESTROY your discs.

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  • Today we are looking at disc binders used to store, your game discs such as PS2, Xbox 360, Xbox, PS1, Gamecube and all that fun "retro" gaming stuff.
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  • @thesogo64
    @thesogo64  Рік тому +54

    Blu-rays are more scratch-resistant but not scratch-proof; they aren't some immortal enigma.
    If mishandled or used in a low-quality, dirty binder, it will still scratch. Nobody at any point said that DVDs have the same scratch resistance as Blu-ray; I assumed any of this information didn't need to be stated as it is fairly common knowledge.
    If used with a low-quality disc binder, there would still be superficial scratches on my disc rather than the disc being a literal mirror, although the scratches wouldn't be as obvious, but they'd still exist. The discs are NOT scratch-proof.
    I used the Blu-ray disc for comparison simply because I have no DVD based media from when I started properly caring for my discs that ISN'T Blu-ray. (I only started properly caring for my discs when my frontal lobe fully formed)

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому +1

      That's part of why these days, I rip all of it to disk and pretty much don't touch them again afterwards. It's a shame that when these media were more current, that it wasn't an option to do so.
      Plus, I convert them and keep them on a NAS for streaming, another thing that wasn't really an option at the time.

    • @spennywenny
      @spennywenny Рік тому +1

      I was an unorganized piece of shit that would do the disc stack thing back then. While the blu rays took longer to "break", they were almost repairable in my experiences. Ever since, I'm so glad I decided to take the extra 30 seconds it took to put the things back in their cases. So yeah. My point is that you're right, and should not use these binders.

    • @nochilllwill
      @nochilllwill Рік тому +1

      i wish someone told me disc binders damaged discs when i was a kid now that my frontal lobe is almost fully formed i regret throwing always almost all of my ps2 cases

    • @gerardsotxoa
      @gerardsotxoa Рік тому

      is fairly common knowledge disc binders screw your discs but here we are.
      Thankfully i am piracy supporter so it didn't matter much

  • @Draxxon_MK
    @Draxxon_MK Рік тому +295

    Growing up, these were the types of kids you would NEVER lend your games to.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +44

      LMFAO 1000%, there's also a level below this that is even worse. The borrow your games and never bring them back or 'lose' them

    • @larrs8887
      @larrs8887 Рік тому +19

      Yep learnt the hard way, lent a copy of Star Wars kotor 2 on Xbox to a friend back in the day, was mint as I always look after my items, was returned all scratched up, case had lots of wear and manual creased….was not happy! Since then I have never lent anything to anyone lol.

    • @mattd1466
      @mattd1466 Рік тому +23

      Seriously though, seeing discs in a pile and in the wrong case instantly raised my blood pressure lol

    • @LookHereLookListen69
      @LookHereLookListen69 Рік тому +1

      Learned that the hard way with my nieces. RIP Mario Party 6

    • @unclemogi
      @unclemogi Рік тому +2

      I had the opposite effect where a friend left their game at my house that somehow ended up in the bottom of our couch by complete accident. That's how I ended up with Megaman Zero X4

  • @elektrokinesis4150
    @elektrokinesis4150 Рік тому +217

    demon souls looks better because blu rays are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more scratch resistant than dvds

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +14

      While that's true, they still do get scratched and can be destroyed even more easily than DVDs. There's not a single scratch on it because I keep it in the case.
      If it was in one of these it would have had scratches lol. (Albeit less heinous scratches)
      If I kept it in a sleeve you'd see at least a couple scratches instead of a brand new disc.
      I have PS2 XBOX ETC games that were kept only in the cases and nearly mint. (But they don't really have the play time on them)

    • @rayojordan2838
      @rayojordan2838 Рік тому +5

      @@thesogo64by the way there are some games that still present these features even if kept in the case… or not played I have three discs like this one is a gta 5 ps3 disc which is practically new but it won’t play it freezes everytime it loads into the game… I also have a bo1 Xbox 360 disc just like the ps3 disc, no starches nothing and still won’t play… I also have a bio shock infinite Xbox one reissue disc I bought from game stop years back and the disc was clean and still wouldn’t boot from the loading screen.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      @@rayojordan2838 Hmm maybe disc rot?

    • @ricenoodles632
      @ricenoodles632 Рік тому +6

      @@thesogo64 More easily how? If you so much as to take a DVD and wipe your fingers over it, you could get scratches. That never happens with Bluray

    • @11Eighty6
      @11Eighty6 Рік тому +11

      ​@thesogo64 Blu-ray can't be destroyed more easily than a dvd. They are manufactured with a proctective coating to prevent scratches. You would have to abuse the hell out of it to get a scratch when compared to dvd.

  • @bullfrog42069
    @bullfrog42069 Рік тому +67

    To be completely fair, assassins creed was essentially a DVD, which didn't have the super scratch-resistant plastic that blu rays (ps5, xbox one, wii U) have, but your point still stands. those binders chew through discs as soon as any dirt gets inside the sleeve

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +8

      Yeah exactly, it sucks I didn't have a clean DVD for that comparison and thank you for backing me up, they are scratch resistant but they aren't immortal lol!

    • @paulink
      @paulink Рік тому +1

      agreed, flawed comparison. also important to note not all disc binders are the same. there is a point to be made though for sure, but its important to note the stress of continuously using original disc cases can crack the inner ring of a disc.

    • @leonlegend
      @leonlegend Рік тому +2

      Not only that, Assassin's Creed is also 10+ years old while Demon's Souls is rather new. It was bound to look worse.
      P.S. Wii U doesn't use Blu-Ray. It's a proprietary format.

  • @gentlesirpancakebottoms6692
    @gentlesirpancakebottoms6692 Рік тому +19

    As the oldest child in my household and the only one who played video games I got a PS2 all for myself. The best solution in my case was to put the disc back in its right case after use and put it neatly on the shelf:p

  • @ReinMixTape
    @ReinMixTape Рік тому +46

    So two issues I thought about these are... A) Disc rot. Disc rot reportedly starts once the top (label) side of a disc is worn away and exposed. Something which the abrasive surface of a disc binder and the movement in/out would cause (damage) that would make disc rot more likely. And B).... Chemical reaction. Under a moist or warm scenario (or both scenarios) I would think it's possible for the binder material to chemically react with the disc surface in a way that leads to parts of the disc binder's material binding into the disc surface. Or as the disc binders material decays, it could lead to the same binding chemical reaction. Just as decaying styrafoam has.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +3

      Super good points I should have included in the video

    • @Zenoff64
      @Zenoff64 Рік тому +14

      The top label issue is only for CD-ROMS. DVDs and Blurays have the data layer sandwitched in between the 2 layers, making them impervious to this issue.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret Рік тому +2

      The disc rot thing the only actually legitimate reason I can think of to not use disc binders (pretending that they scratch discs when you can't be bothered to close the case or wipe them off before inserting them is cringeworthy). I too have worried about this, but I figured that having loose discs that I don't own the boxes to in sleeves is a lot safer than them being loose in a stack somewhere. This video is very VERY narrow-minded and yes, I'm frustrated. 😂 He didn't even mention "disc holders" (I can't think of the correct name for this, it's the kind if thing that is akin to a single stack of discs, but each disc has a plastic tray that a disc sits in that you swing out) which actually can scratch discs.

    • @VforVendetta13
      @VforVendetta13 Рік тому

      Assuming you were stupid enough to use a scratch cleaner on yoir disc then yes rot would happen. Otherwise discs dont rot unless the side glue loosens which does not happen to most cd size discs. Laser discs are a whole nother story

  • @zultan8212
    @zultan8212 Рік тому +15

    Didn't have this problem. My friends did. Never understood why you wouldnt put the disc back where it belonged.

    • @Draxxon_MK
      @Draxxon_MK Рік тому

      Laziness, and shitty parents.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому

      Being too lazy to find the other case when you grab another basically. And being a stupid kid.

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Рік тому +1

    0:32 I hated people like this. Just put the game back in it's case! You'll know where it is 100% of the time. Are you that impatient you can't open a second case? Or do you simply bot care about your games, leaving them in a literal pile?

  • @DeadPhoenix86DP
    @DeadPhoenix86DP Рік тому +23

    I used to do this when I was younger. Luckily the one I bought didn't cause any scratches.
    I usually did this when I was traveling to another household or vacation spot.
    Even as a kid, I took care of my stuff.

    • @e.l.2734
      @e.l.2734 Рік тому

      Same. As a third worlder, if I didn't assume poor quality on stuff, I would own nothing

  • @paperseagull4297
    @paperseagull4297 Рік тому +2

    disc binders are a godsend for people like me who keep upwards of thirty cd's in their car to listen to lol

  • @Thundervolt888
    @Thundervolt888 Рік тому +4

    Physical media will sadly wear and tear no matter what eventually 😢

  • @DandyDNA
    @DandyDNA Рік тому +29

    The official PSX carrying case from way back when must be a very good disc binder; it's been holding my games for 25~ years and they are still in good condition. It really depends on the material I reckon.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +5

      Definitely depends on material used and how contaminated it is with foreign particles on the sleeves, but also I think anything rubbing on the DVD aside from like some sort of super soft cotton is going to scratch. (At least to a superficial level)

    • @DandyDNA
      @DandyDNA Рік тому +4

      @@thesogo64 A disc binder with microfibre inside the jackets would be perfection 🤑

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret Рік тому +1

      @@DandyDNA until it becomes dirty...??? 🤷‍♂️ 😂

  • @dinanars2857
    @dinanars2857 Рік тому +2

    I used to do that but not anymore these don’t break your CDs I only did that cause I bought CDs without the box that was not there the cd was sold separately this was the only way to keep them safe from getting scratched

  • @MAL9000.
    @MAL9000. Рік тому +4

    Why do circa 50% of the used game stores, store their discs this way? They have super expensive games (like Silent Hill games, PS3 HD Collection, first party Nintendo games etc.) game cases behind the counter, so people can't steal it, so what gives?

  • @RedBerylFTW
    @RedBerylFTW Рік тому +2

    I've never had this problem and 3:55 is why. That's not the binder's fault. You put more elbow into destroying that disc than a krav-maga instructor.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @ignasia7230
    @ignasia7230 Рік тому +9

    That also depends on two things.
    1. the quality of the disc binder. I have several good quality ones, and everything in those disc binders looks mint as the backs of the sleeves are designed specifically to avoid scratching CD's, which are even more damage prone than DVD's.
    2. Not having dirt on them in the first place when placing them in said binder, and making sure to close the binders up when not in usage, so dust doesn't seep into them.
    I've been using them for decades, since my college years. Though it is true that certain types can scratch up discs. Even so, I've never used them for console games, burnt CD's and DVD-R's, and collections from people who kept PC games in disc binders and handed me what they had as they no longer wanted it.
    Though honestly, despite some of the comments related to yours and your brothers handling of discs? I had a friend back in high school, you'd think he was the perfect type of person to lend out games to. Very put together, took care of his stuff. His room was emaculate. However, I lent him Sim City 2000, in near mint condition. I get back an old beat up CD case that wasn't the original, without the covers, without the manual, and with the game looking not just damaged on the bottom but also on the top.
    Turns out his mother cleaned his room for him. He did not take care of his things, it was merely a perception he maintained in public. In private, he was really a massive slob. It also took the guy months to find my game. That was a lesson. Thankfully it still plays, but there are issues with it. It does hang up sometimes in the drive. I'm amazed it plays at all with how deep some of the scratches are. So looks and perception can be deceiving. After that, it took another 8 or 9 years before someone convinced me to lend them games (my sister, and no, I never lent her anything after that...).

  • @rocioquiroz11
    @rocioquiroz11 Рік тому +25

    Facts these are only good for your car. But for games theyre the worst.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +5

      I've been missing your comments dude! Good to have you back 😁
      Also danm 5$, you didn't have to, but it is much appreciated man.
      I was actually going to tell you, that you being my UA-cam member and supporting/believing in me got me to push past the creative bump in the road I've had every time I tried to succeed on UA-cam, where I would have given up, or started making content that wasn't me just to get views or whatever other dumb pitfalls we fall into as creators seeking success.
      You have already done more than enough with helping me find myself as an artist/creator, so cheers bro.
      Wishing you lots of peace and love bro ☮❤✌

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +3

      They're definitely good for cars due to the convenience factor. Having CD cases on your dash sucks.

    • @rocioquiroz11
      @rocioquiroz11 Рік тому +1

      @@thesogo64 I've honestly been crazy busy working, Ive been on unemployment for a minute but my lucks changed and I gotta look little extra dough. UA-cam can be rough, just trying to help the little guys.
      But bringing up the Sims, you should do Castaway on PS2. Ive heard it's a trip. I think Sims Console content hasn't really been touched. The way I look at it, youll bring in a lot of people looking for only Sims content but a small audience will begin to build for your other content. Just my two cents, keep grinding away bro
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    • @joshfacio9379
      @joshfacio9379 Рік тому +1

      They suck in arizona heat unfortunatley. Ive had discs that have the plastic clear protector melt onto the disc which rips the label off the disc so its not readable and destroys the disc since the data is under the label. Ive lost many a cd to em lol

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM Рік тому

      @@thesogo64 my dad had a little case in his car that stored the discs with the case. held about 10-15 discs. was a black canvas thing with a zipper, but the inner liner came out and was a plastic thing. I bet any kid would love to have it for their CD games back in the day. basically an advanced shoebox.

  • @tims8864
    @tims8864 Рік тому +2

    I put all my games (DVD and blu-ray) in disc wallets of various brands and designs, and they never look anything like that. The PS5 games in my disc wallet are actually mint and look better than your Demon's Souls stored in the case. Your disc binder thing is terrible and probably the worst design I've ever seen, but no matter how bad it is, it can't create ring scratches like the ones shown at 2:42.

  • @Ghostie.
    @Ghostie. Рік тому +4

    Even as a child I always put my games back in the cases and lined them up neatly. :D

  • @Tommy_Wimmer
    @Tommy_Wimmer Рік тому +1

    I stopped using CD cases when I graduated high school. Nowadays I keep the original cases for all of my DVD's and video games.

  • @SpokaneGirl85
    @SpokaneGirl85 Рік тому +1

    lol, never had this problem, that was because I always put them back in their proper case. I use disc binders for loose games or for travel or when going to someone's house to play video games.

  • @rhapsody2612
    @rhapsody2612 Рік тому +2

    You say this as I have my caseless Windows discs in a disc binder

  • @libroscombustibles2616
    @libroscombustibles2616 Рік тому +11

    been warning everyone of these issues since the old days of emuparadise... great video, subscribed. yes it's cheemical reaction, those sleeves are made form some kind of fibers that stick to the surface of the disc

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth Рік тому +5

      Upvote for the Emuparadise shoutout 👍. They used to have a really good archive of PS1 USA library, PSP Eboot conversions that were really well done. They actually had a good, working MK Trilogy Eboot WITH the CDDA music 🔥

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat Рік тому +3

      @@TexasHollowEarth Emuparadise was the best. Like all good things, they were never going to last.

  • @GlobalGaming101
    @GlobalGaming101 Рік тому

    The later model 360 game cases would actually cause the ring in the center to crack. That’s why I used those disc binders

  • @georgehernandez2156
    @georgehernandez2156 Рік тому +1

    The real problem with disc binders is that someone can steal that and then youll have no games lol.

  • @dr.frankenstein5421
    @dr.frankenstein5421 Рік тому +2

    I notice this happening to my PS1 disc's. After years of storage, there was a white cloudish film on the black surface the the games. I taken all my disc and put them all back in the game cases where they belong.

  • @phunkym8
    @phunkym8 Рік тому +15

    i watched so many hdmi mods for consoles over the past years and seen so many pixel perfect graphics that seeing the footage you filmed from an actual tv looks amazing. it really masked the low resolution these old games had.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +2

      100%, I believe it is the best way to play old consoles, as that is the target device they were designed to be played on. RGB modding is fine IMO.

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Рік тому

      Why did you think HDMI modding would be a good idea to begin with? What did you expect?

    • @WhoWatchesThis
      @WhoWatchesThis Рік тому +1

      he's right. Blu-Rays are inherently more resistant to damage.

  • @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson
    @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson Рік тому +1

    Not me and my brothers, man. We always kept our stuff immaculate.

  • @Keith3000
    @Keith3000 Рік тому +2

    I had to switch to the binders because the 360 cases use to hold the discs too tightly and ended up causing cracks on the inner ring.

  • @superwario3644
    @superwario3644 Рік тому +9

    the gamecube does have some of its own special mini disk holders they never get mentioned very often but if you need a disk holder for lose gamecube disks that one works

  • @jabmaster1000
    @jabmaster1000 Рік тому +7

    I’ve been using disc binders for years (even still use two disc binders that are at least over 15 years old now) and I’ve had no issues. If it is “destroying my discs”, it is doing so at a snails pace

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      Yeah based on the test I did the damage is extremely superficial, but still causes light damage nonetheless.
      Of course if debris got into the disc binder it would cause none superficial damage but I digress.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому

      @@tvguy61 Yes, now think repeated use over years of a heavily played game, or if some debris gets in there too!

  • @Subzearo
    @Subzearo Рік тому +1

    I'm pretty sure 90% of us just kept them in their cases

  • @gamma_dc8289
    @gamma_dc8289 Рік тому +1

    I always use disc binders for loose games I own, everything else stays in their box

  • @R3QV13m
    @R3QV13m Рік тому +1

    i'd agree if not for the factor of space. the apartment i9 live in doesn't have the space for cases for all the disks i own.

  • @DARK__KING
    @DARK__KING Рік тому +1

    the worse that happen is not getting it scratched but getting it bent and all of them

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому

      Never had this before, I'll have to research

  • @ajzeg01
    @ajzeg01 Рік тому +1

    Get yourself a Case Logic disc binder and put your worries away.

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet Рік тому +2

    These things are awful, I put all my music CDs in one years ago that I used to use a lot and they’re all destroyed, especially burned CDs got completely destroyed

  • @russellmania5349
    @russellmania5349 Рік тому +1

    I never had a problem with disc binders and will continue to use them.

  • @Apple2gs
    @Apple2gs Рік тому +8

    Never had problems with disc binders, just people who mistreat the discs (why I never lend out my CD's, DVD's and Blu-rays). As for gaming, glad I grew up with game cartridges instead of optical discs. Those were virtually indestructible! At worse, you might have to clean the PCB pins (or blow on them hah). And everything loaded instantly! Still prefer playing my NES, SNES, TurboGrafx-16, Intellivision, 2600 or Vectrex over my PS1/2/3, GameCube or Xbox OG/360.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      Nice username, I have an Apple IIC in box

    • @Apple2gs
      @Apple2gs Рік тому

      @@tvguy61 - I just tested out my three binders (they're all "Case Logic") and none of my discs get scratched, not even light scratches. Trust me, as a physical media collector of DVD's and Blu-ray's, I can see even the smallest scratches under proper lighting and the right angle.
      These sleeves have a cloth-like material. Could some binders use plastic or more abrasive backings?
      FYI, for my 360, Wii/U, PS1/2/3 and GameCube discs, they stay in their original cases. If I have loose copies, I put them in paper envelopes (only have my DreamCast back-up CD-R's in a binder, because I have so many).

    • @Apple2gs
      @Apple2gs Рік тому

      @@tvguy61 - Likely different binders have varying quality of protection. Regardless, my best advice is to store your CD's, DVD's and Blu-rays in their original cases--sure it takes up more space, but there's more benefits. I think binders are OK for burned/copied computer discs, that's what I use mine for (got rid of my CD jewel cases long ago, that was a waste of shelf space).

  • @milesipka
    @milesipka Рік тому +2

    An interesting take but as someone who has been using disc binders out of necessity for the past twenty years with absolutely no instances of broken or decayed CDs, DVDs or games I have to respectfully disagree.
    My points are as follows:
    1): Get yourself a good quality binder with soft sleeves made of good quality plastic, NOT those cheap binders that bargain basement shops sell. Storing your discs in those el cheapo ones will scratch your discs up the wazoo.
    2): Good quality binders should have a working zipper - always keep your binder zipped shut until you're ready to either pull out or put in a disc.
    3): When you insert or remove a disc, DO NOT use excessive force. Doing this causes those scratches, even in good quality binders. Please be gentle with your discs.
    4): ALWAYS store your binders in a location that is clean, cool and dry. Dirt, heat and humidity are proven disc killers.
    I have DVDs I burnt eighteen years ago that still work beautifully and all my games are playable - it just requires care and common sense to use binders properly.

    • @IsmaelWensder
      @IsmaelWensder Рік тому

      I have some PS2 games on plastic covers (it looks like a plastic bag, not a hard cover) but the disks seems not too scratched.

  • @novelezra
    @novelezra Рік тому +7

    Oh my god... This just awoke a memory.
    So my mom got me a PSONE (the smaller PS1 model, because the original stopped working if I remember correctly) and you could get an official PSONE shoulderbag that fit the PSONE and a bunch of games (and the screen which I didn't have).
    I begged my mom for it and she got it me and one thing it had was a diskbinder to put all your games in.
    Only problem with that is, when you get older and your mom throws your backpack out because she doesn't realize it had a PSONE and a bunch of awesome games in it...

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +4

      Noooooo, that sucks. RIP games brother.

    • @NonameNoname-tr8uv
      @NonameNoname-tr8uv Рік тому +3

      I don’t even know you and that hurt to hear. 😢

    • @novelezra
      @novelezra Рік тому +1

      @@NonameNoname-tr8uv It happens to everyone does it not? I bet everyone has something from their childhood that they think back on now and think "Shit! Where did that go?! I'd love to have that now!"
      It's a part of growing up : )

    • @penguinjay
      @penguinjay Рік тому

      @@novelezra sometimes you find what was lost. I'm still holding out hope that I kept more n64 game boxes than I can currently find, but I stopped looking for them if that makes sense. They are gone, or I will happen across them unexpectedly. I got all the manuals though.

    • @Moondramon
      @Moondramon Рік тому

      ! why would she just throw away stuff like that?? That's physically painful to hear, I'm sorry that happened!

  • @ClaytonCLF
    @ClaytonCLF Рік тому +5

    I got 2 disc binders last year: one for my 20 years old collection of PS1 games, which were all either in broken cases or plastic bags so old they were shattering, and the other disc binder was for my "new" collection, mostly umm, "backups" of games that I never got to play back then. Suffice it to say, the old games were in better condition the way they were, and the brand new burned discs that I got to play at least once a week since last year are already fogged up from the micro scratches. They're not so bad, though, as once in a while I clean them with a bit of dish soap and water, let them dry by shaking the discs or lightly pressing a paper towel over them (no wiping), and they look as shiny as new.

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat Рік тому +1

      You can also polish away much of the scratches with a microfiber cloth.

  • @krich451
    @krich451 Рік тому +1

    I had like a whole closet full of these things at one point. Cd's, dvd's, and pirated games. I have no idea where they are at this point.

  • @phoreign64
    @phoreign64 Рік тому +1

    0:26 I'm absolutely baffled at the fact that this was the game that I would constantly lose going from disc-binder to stacked piles to case, and it's still missing to this day.

  • @krs4976
    @krs4976 Рік тому +2

    I have recently found a old disc binder filled with CDs, nearly all of them are unusable as the material used for the binder sleeves have begun to decompose fusing to the discs and eating through its layers.

  • @josh24441
    @josh24441 Рік тому +3

    I was (and still am) a very organized person. And one of my biggest gaming pet peeves during that time is when people wouldn’t put my games back in the case after they were done! It drove me crazy! My other pet peeve was people that put the wrong game in the wrong case. In the early 2000s (I was18 by that time) you would’ve drove me nuts!

  • @Kinsanth_
    @Kinsanth_ Рік тому +3

    Its not the binders, but the users habits, that will ultimately destroy disks. Letting them lay around open with the readable side facing down on a dusty console guarantees you scratches over time

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому

      Yep, the bigger issue is moisture getting into the discs and causing problems. Most of my discs are still perfectly good, but I do have a couple that don't read properly anymore, and it's just a matter of moisture or something in the air as the discs haven't been removed from standard cases in years.

  • @cocoonmasterplays9100
    @cocoonmasterplays9100 Рік тому +3

    I remember my PS1 discs would get scratches just from playing them. Never stored them in a binder and was gentle putting them back in their case. My PS1 ended up not being able to read any game discs anymore, even brand new ones. It was three years old at the time. I think the laser reader was damaging them, but somehow regular CDs (music) would work.

  • @AbsurdJANGO
    @AbsurdJANGO Рік тому +3

    I have an entire library of original Xbox games where almost all of them can't be played because my dad put them in a disc binder. He didn't know any better at the time, but the damage has been insufferable.

  • @SpongeMagic
    @SpongeMagic Рік тому +2

    We lost a huge chunk of our family's DVD, Wii and 360 games because we stored them in plastic disc binders. I couldn't play Sonic Generations on 360 for years until I bought it on Steam in 2020 I make extra damn sure to keep all of my stuff secure and in their cases.
    And Disc Binders are bad, but at least they're not as bad as just putting all of your discs on a spindle.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому

      Is this because of the plastic melting onto them like some other commenters said?

  • @ChikaHakozaki
    @ChikaHakozaki Рік тому +6

    I never mixed my games up in different cases, so I can't relate. As a collector my games always stayed in the appropriate case they belonged in.
    The only games that stayed in those types of binders are the games I bought loose or acquired from a trade or gotten free that were loose.

  • @CameronKiesser
    @CameronKiesser Рік тому +2

    My Dad liked these disc binders but I was always a staunch disc case person, as the cases are part of the art and enjoyment.

  • @JoeShmo909090
    @JoeShmo909090 Рік тому +2

    lmao I've never had a binder ruin a disc in my entire life and all my disks are stored in binders.

    • @That-Ninja
      @That-Ninja Рік тому +1

      Same here. This vid is fullash:t

  • @junkithuang
    @junkithuang 3 місяці тому +1

    Disc Binders are perfect for Sports Titles, Demo Discs, Home Videos, illegally downloaded Music and Software for a Printer.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  17 днів тому +1

      Yeah that's a good one.

  • @TayajohMusic
    @TayajohMusic Рік тому +9

    I thought this was going to be about music and I was like “who the hell is going to carry around or store all their CDs in their case”. I have never put a game/movie anywhere other than in the case or player/console. I feel weird even putting it on a counter for even a split second.
    Thank you for all the information! Great video!

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +2

      Haha applies to also CDs so wasn't a total misclick.
      Thanks bro!

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret Рік тому +2

      Who would put CDs in a case? Me. I have hundreds of loose CDs that I paid a penny each for (local thrift store). This video that tries to tell me that I'm foolish for protecting those CDs (that I've never owned cases for, that's why they were a penny each) is too funny. What am I supposed to do, stack them up in a pile? I don't need quick access to them, since I usually listen to FLAC rips. It's very telling how his only defense of disc binders involved GameCube games. Maybe it never occured to him that people would willingly buy loose discs in the same way that it never occured to me that there were people out there who would be silly enough to put games that they own boxes for in a disc binder.

    • @PedroKing19
      @PedroKing19 Рік тому +1

      ​@awesomeferret, I'm going to be honest with you. Your experience seems in no way similar to his, so Idk why you're expecting him to cater to yours. Just ignore the video and move on bro.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret Рік тому

      @@PedroKing19 to be so immature... Amazing. So, just because I try to tell him EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD ME, I need to "move on, bro"? Nice try. 😂 The incredible irony... Too funny. 😂 It's literally because of what you said that my comment hasma purpose. Good gosh. What's so bad about me wanting to point out that some people have had much better experiences (largely because they shop for better binders)? It's clearly not me who needs to "move on". 😂

    • @DeafeningCha
      @DeafeningCha Рік тому

      ​@@awesomeferretThis video isn't making anyone look foolish, you're creating that in your mind. You're acting as if explaining the potential downsides of something is the same as telling people they're stupid for doing that thing.
      If I tried to perform a crooked cartridge glitch on the Nintendo 64, and you caught me in the act and tried to explain how it could corrupt the data, should I say you were trying to make me look foolish because I've done it in every game and none of my data has been corrupted yet?

  • @yparchive
    @yparchive Рік тому +1

    thank god i was never into disc binders, my family teached me VERY early that paying for games wasn't cheap so putting them back in their box was a priority when i was younger because i knew that my parents would be very angry seeing those games they bought for me all over the place.
    our family did have disc binders, but they were mostly used for CDs, Music to listen in the car and such.

  • @Imagemerald
    @Imagemerald Рік тому +1

    I made myself a Disney Wish DVD and when I took it out of the binder it had a smudge on it, preventing it from reading, so I had to make a new copy. It was sad because I perfectly hand wrote the title in its font when labeling the disc with a blue sharpie, so I had to do it all over again.

  • @vkermodekumav8949
    @vkermodekumav8949 Рік тому +4

    As an adult, I disagree. I just swapped out like 50 of my CDs into a big binder, as long as you take good care of the disc and binder, they will be fine. I even have the booklet and the art work in each sleeve with the CDs and they are just fine. You were a bit more wreckless as kids. But you know better now.

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      Fair point, the damage from my dirty binder is fairly minimal when I "simulated" wear LOL

    • @vkermodekumav8949
      @vkermodekumav8949 Рік тому

      @@thesogo64 you still have good points in the video though. Just gotta get a good binder and things will work out. Saves SOOOO much space. I do something similar with my video games. I put them in individual plastic sleeves that are thin. They hold the art work, booklet and the disc[within a paper sleeve] and it saves SOOOOOO much space xD love it. :3

  • @pqsk
    @pqsk Рік тому +1

    Maybe you had cheapo one. I thought your science experiment was going to be using a brand new cheapo and a brand new premium one. I never stored games in those kinds of things. I would keep them in cases, but for music in my car it was a must. I don't think I bought the most expensive one, but also wasn't the cheapest. If you know how us soldiers road trip a lot when in garrison, especially overseas in Europe.....we changed from disc to disc to disc over and over in hours and days. We would smoke and drink. So you can imagine. None of my discs got damaged. I also did clean them though, I had a cleaner for my device and for each disc. We loved to party, but at the end of the day we were disciplined soldiers. So maybe at the end of the day it all boiled down to the cleaning part. 😹😊

  • @vasili-zaitsev
    @vasili-zaitsev Рік тому +1

    There were kids who appreciate their toys and took care of them, then there were kids who didnt care at all about anything they had and treated everything like garbage 😂

  • @KayoMichiels
    @KayoMichiels Рік тому

    I use CD Ejectors: they grip around the edges, but still protect the disc inside a transparent case, that takes up waay less space than the regular case... that one i keep in storage to protect the artwork... i even have different colored ones to differentiate the system. Like PS4 is Black and PS5 is blue etc..

  • @Noa15Lv
    @Noa15Lv Рік тому +3

    I thought as well that this WAS really cool idea to keep all the PS1 games inside of giant disc binder "book""...
    But years later i regret, that i got rid of all the original cases due to lack of storage around my living place.
    Although, somehow managed to keep the games just for the looks, even any of them barely works.
    Now in present, i keep each game in its original casing, no matter which platform. Got plenty of room to store games aswell!
    And IF some guest won't put the game back into the proper case, i'll warn it just to keep everything organised after its "gaming session".

  • @AngelloProduct
    @AngelloProduct Рік тому

    Honestly I’m glad that I don’t take the discs off the cases on a disc binder. Helped me find the games easier

  • @PringoOrSomething
    @PringoOrSomething Рік тому +1

    Never had this problem I always put the game back in it’s case when I’m done with it and have every disc upright in it’s case

  • @misterbeetz
    @misterbeetz Рік тому +4

    The best way to avoid scratched discs and disc rot is to mod the console so you can rip all of your discs to a large hard drive. That is if modding is possible on your system.

    • @EddyOver9000
      @EddyOver9000 Рік тому +1

      True and maybe if one can’t mod a console, another option would be emulation

  • @ravenger5672
    @ravenger5672 Рік тому +1

    You know what would end your problem with all of the empty cases? Putting the games back into them. Then you can just look at the titles lined up on the shelf and choose the one you want.
    Even as a children my brothers and I have never treated discs this way. This whole video is painful to watch. I only use a small binder for the PS1 demo discs that have no case or sleeve, and it has done no damage to these demo discs whatsoever.

  • @willisjackson8595
    @willisjackson8595 Рік тому +2

    My mom said I should get one to save room and I said no they scratch them up

  • @Luigi02364
    @Luigi02364 Рік тому

    My friend always questioned why I didn’t just use a disc binder since it takes up less space. He didn’t believe the fabric could scratch up the discs. All his games look like they’re 2 steps away from not reading while most of mine are near flawless.

  • @mattmc5069
    @mattmc5069 Рік тому +4

    One binder I hated where those with tough plastic sleeves. Often they where tight and squeeze the discs together forcing them to rub as they are pulled out of the sleeve. And many had tabs inserted inside which went behind your disc. They have some sharp edges. I pulled them up and out over the discs. The best folders where the ultra cheap ones with soft plastic holders and they are loose with soft padding. One I bought at dollar tree was the best I ever bought: no tabs and wasn't squashed so I could move it without scraping it against the back

  • @ElectroBlastLuigi
    @ElectroBlastLuigi Рік тому +2

    Growing up, I had a disc binder to store all of my demo discs I would get on a monthly basis. Lucky for me, I didn't have to worry about losing any games because my habit has always been putting my games right back into the cases where they belong before putting a different game inside the console. This goes for cartridges too unless I don't have a corresponding game case but I eventually got a carrying game case to hold many cartridges.

  • @gzgaming69
    @gzgaming69 Рік тому +1

    Used to have these when I was a kid, and one of my neighbors still use these. Luckily, I moved out of the binders when I started my gaming collection.

  • @zerobatsu
    @zerobatsu Рік тому

    You need to get the kind that didn’t have the plastic lip across the fabric at the entrance slit

  • @mariokarter13
    @mariokarter13 Рік тому

    The spindle you snap your disc onto when you put it in its actual case is there for a reason. The surface of the disc is suspended away from even the plastic of the case itself. The discs can't get scratched because there's nothing to scratch them.

  • @MonkeyTornado
    @MonkeyTornado Рік тому +1

    Disagree. I feel they are perfect for people who probably buy games from sellers without the original box, people who just want to see their collection/games compact, and more importantly, prefer not to open/use their game cases/keep their game boxes in a separate area, and don't have room/don't want to floss a giant bookcase collection etc. Also, I grew up kinda ghetto, and my parents wouldn't let me keep my games in the living room entertainment center, and in my bedroom, I already had a shelf for my dvds/vhs. no room etc. So I would keep my Playstation, Xbox, Gamecube, Wii etc. cases in a rubbermaid storage box in my closet, and I'm a 91 birth, so unless I wanted a butt whooping, I had to use the cd wallets/disc binders lol. Also, the discs also do not get damaged. It's from leaving the cd wallets exposed/unzipped/open with the disc not in a protective sleeve, and/or leaving the disc exposed on the top of the console/coffee table etc. If you immediately store the discs in the binder, it's okay. Whether some prefers to use a cd wallet/disc binder, or they prefer to immediately put the discs back in the box/on the shelf etc. It's down to preference.

  • @SimchaG613
    @SimchaG613 Рік тому +1

    But what about Case Logic binders?

  • @tabv_v
    @tabv_v Рік тому

    the worst thing about dirt getting into a cd binder is it scratching off the label side of a game/cd, pretty much losing songs or bricking the disc altogether

  • @EmperorDank
    @EmperorDank Рік тому

    I got yelled at if i misplaced discs into their wrong case, i'm really glad about that all these years later since they're all where they should be still

  • @Trakker1985
    @Trakker1985 Рік тому

    There has never been an instance in my life since i was about 5-6, where i didn't put a game/vhs/cassette/dvd/bluray back in it's case after finishing with it.

  • @strippinheat
    @strippinheat Рік тому +1

    Been using disc binders for years. No problems here. This is a YOU problem.

  • @czel3
    @czel3 Рік тому

    the material is made of polyester... which is plastic, and the material of the disc is also... yep you guessed, plastic. Depending on the type of plastic of the disc, they could have the number on the hardness scale. This can also be seen when you clean your glasses (since lenses are now made of lightweight plastic), and try to clean your lenses with a polyester shirt. Again, you will see lots of scratches.

  • @watchreadplayretro
    @watchreadplayretro Рік тому +2

    Or just take care of your media (as a young kid, teenager, or adult!) ie I have thousands of CDs and DVDs and don't even use disc folders, I simply fold and A4 piece of paper in half, place the CD on the paper media side up in order to work out where to fold in the outside edges, then take it away and fold the two sides inwards. That forms a simple paper wallet. I then store these inside boxes, shoeboxes with superglued cardboard slats so that they are at an angle, or even just a couple inside existing DVD cases (and use a database to keep track of what is where). It is disc rot that's the problem, not even with keeping the CDs well, some were just 'made' to not last long or on cheaper media.
    Great video, and I get the fun and jokes and even sarcasm, but there simple shouldn't be any scratches at all. If a house is kept clean, the CDs are handled by the edges, and placed softly away (ie even now when you filmed this, you placed a game dvd case ontop of a CD that was media-side up!!!! Grrr lol
    I'm only slightly (and more jokingly) annoyed because when I find great stuff at thrift stores and 2nd hand shops, mostly they are scratched because nobody cared, no parents taught respect of CDs (and belongings in general) and a rare media is ruined :(
    Vacuuming inside a CD wallet might also help since most these days will have aquired dust. I cannot believe I've typed all this lol but yeah, the video should simply be about placing CDs slowly and carefully in a wallet, keeping the wallet and the room and the CD tray clean, never double-fill and just take pride and attention to what you own.
    Still subbed though because a the jokes and well-made video! =)

  • @thesogo64
    @thesogo64  Рік тому +8

    Not sure if you guys have noticed, but I updated and simplified my vocal chain, my voice should sound way cleaner now, and less BOOMY! 💥
    This video was an experiment with filming to make content for you guys. This will never be my main style of content, but I intend to just express myself as an artist and a human being, so these videos will be around once in a while.
    Peace and love everyone!
    ☮❤✌

    • @FabioGnecco
      @FabioGnecco Рік тому +1

      Good upgrade !
      I had few games growing up, so I never had to buy a disc binder
      Keeping the discs inside the cases looks much cooler !
      Thanks for the video !

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +4

      Thanks man!
      I was blessed to have two older brothers, and a mom that spoiled us (we got mostly used games though, we weren't rich or anything)
      100% facts keeping discs inside of cases looks cooler
      No worries, I'm going to keep striving to improve and make even higher quality content for you guys.
      Really appreciate the support bro, peace and love!

  • @WeegeeCool1
    @WeegeeCool1 Рік тому +5

    My parents thought they were slick by replacing our media shelf with a game binder.
    Yeah it was good until our games and DVDs slowly stopped working.
    Edit: This comment used to be hearted

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +2

      Yeah so much easier to damage them. (Unless someone doesn't carefully take discs out from their cases and cracks the inner ring(

    • @WeegeeCool1
      @WeegeeCool1 Рік тому +1

      @@thesogo64 fully agreed
      (Also I edited a typo in my comment so it it lost the heart)

  • @BeeWaifu
    @BeeWaifu Рік тому +2

    I hate the idea that people would just randomly leave their discs allover the place or plop them into whatever box they had on hand. Irritating like Hell.

  • @GAnimeRO
    @GAnimeRO Рік тому

    "The first issue is the search time omg like I can't bare to waste up to 5 seconds to find the game game I want to play it's driving me nuts a whole 5 seconds guys"

  • @DeadRebornKid
    @DeadRebornKid Рік тому +1

    1:56 No effen way! You got Thrillville!? The sequel, Thrillville: Off the Rails is legitimately my favorite game of all time :D

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому

      I loved thrillville. In hindsight it's not the greatest game of all time but I solidly enjoyed it.

  • @sonicnerd21
    @sonicnerd21 Рік тому

    I learned this around 2015-16, never did this but thought it was cool as a kid. Looking at them now, gives me anxiety whenever I see people use them. They don't know, and I feel like I should tell them...not sure if they'd care though

  • @dewshbag16
    @dewshbag16 Рік тому

    Thank you. After all these years, you’ve helped prove that my paranoia was in fact, sound logic.

  • @QuincyLeJeune
    @QuincyLeJeune Рік тому

    My brother sent me this video; after watching it makes perfect sense why so many discs we thought we were taking care of ended up in such bad shape. Thanks for this.

  • @stylechyld7780
    @stylechyld7780 Рік тому +1

    Seeing how you handle discs makes me cringe, this is why i never buy from used places like gamestop because the games are horrendously scratched because people dont know how to handle them and take care of them.

  • @wishbonefan
    @wishbonefan Рік тому

    I think I've actually only ever used disc binders for traveling, since it's a lot easier to fit the disc binder with 20 discs in your backpack than 20 individual cases, and I always put them back in the normal case when I got home.

  • @skorpers
    @skorpers Рік тому

    I'm absolutely shocked that no one knew this. My youtube algorithm is a nonstop stream of rage inducing videos of things that should have been patently obvious.

  • @Scornfull
    @Scornfull Рік тому +2

    Even as a kid I knew these suck, the rough fabric and the constant jumbling of the discs and every time I saw it it made my skin crawl 💀

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +2

      LOL yeah and when you accidentally dump all the discs on the floor and they fall everywhere. Good times. jk

    • @Scornfull
      @Scornfull Рік тому +2

      @@thesogo64 I hated those things so much but everyone else in my family decided to put my games in one when they were done using them 💀

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      @@Scornfull The one upside to them is if you aren't careful with disc cases, the repeat removal of discs will crack the inner ring I believe. Happened to me only once with midnight club 3

    • @Scornfull
      @Scornfull Рік тому +2

      @@thesogo64 that's fucked man I remember my left 4 dead 2 disc being in one of those disc binders and it made the game load textures completely randomly like sometimes there'd be textures of the special infected on buses or there would be confetti rainbow textures on objects or players

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      @@Scornfull LOL DUDE, this happened with my Left 4 Dead 1, but it was these black outline textures of guns, all over my guns. Some of these guns didn't even exist in the game. Super trippy.

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Рік тому

    1:04 How would this fix your disorganization? "Somewhere in the binder" is the same as "in some case"

  • @bobsagoodegg
    @bobsagoodegg Рік тому +1

    This would have been nice to know in the 80s/90s well done

    • @thesogo64
      @thesogo64  Рік тому +1

      I'll build a time machine, don't worry brother

  • @cool_roberT09
    @cool_roberT09 Рік тому +2

    Back when I was a kid half of my game collection would be games in cases because those games I just didn't have the case for because my dad somehow bought that game without the case from some 3rd party seller or we just lost the case. R.I.P Tekken 5 on the PS2

  • @sirducksworthythe3rd842
    @sirducksworthythe3rd842 Рік тому +2

    These don't destroy the disc's if used right and stored right

    • @That-Ninja
      @That-Ninja Рік тому

      Yea I've been using my CD binders for 15 years and my tapes still play like they did when I first got them...

  • @MiBrCo4177
    @MiBrCo4177 Рік тому

    Holy s*** was that Project Eden I saw lol... Nice! Great vid lol. Subbed because of it. Nostalgia it's me hard at 6am while getting ready for work and watching/listening to UA-cam.

  • @carlosfontanez9804
    @carlosfontanez9804 Рік тому +1

    Those disc cases are good for when you are traveling. I had an original xbox travel case and it had a hook for you to hook onto your pants while you were walking over to a friends place to play. It allowed you bring a lot more games with you and it was padded to protect what you were putting in there. It also had a net for..... I am not really sure I never used it but i guess you could put memory cards in them. It was made for a time when you didn't have internet in your home. I am talking about the early 2000's, not the late 2000's like the halo 3 and wii era. You would go over and play tony hawk, mortal kombat, mech assault, battlefront, all those early 2000 games that you couldn't play with others with that internet connection that you didn't have. From looking at your collection it seems you had games from the latter era and your mom may have been old fashioned by giving you a disc binder so you wouldn't destroy your games. I may be wrong, the playstation 2 and the gamecube was from the early 2000's, but your collection just looks like they were singleplayer games on the playstation 2 or games from the later 2000's, again maybe your mom being cheap and not wanting to spend too much money on video games. Also, 007: Nightfire was fire, that game got better the further you got into it.
    Sidenote: that 007 case looks like a platinum hits case, meaning your mom bought it later on after it sold a bunch and they re-ran new copies to be sold later on. If it was the original run of copies it would have been in the green case, or it wasn't that big of a hit. Just saying......

    • @penguinjay
      @penguinjay Рік тому

      I bet the net was for memory card, so you could take your saves to a friend's house. The memory card was not a very popular accessory due to the hdd. Just enough space in the net for that without hurting the discs right?

    • @carlosfontanez9804
      @carlosfontanez9804 Рік тому

      Right. I didn’t really put anything in there because when I zip it up it felt like I was going to break the games inside. I never used memory cards because the hard drive *never* ran out of space. I swear you could have every game you could imagine and it would still say 5000+ blocks of space remaining.

  • @suhtangwong
    @suhtangwong Рік тому +1

    It's like pushing glass in and out of sand paper.