WARNING! These DESTROY your discs.
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
- Today we are looking at disc binders used to store, your game discs such as PS2, Xbox 360, Xbox, PS1, Gamecube and all that fun "retro" gaming stuff.
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Blu-rays are more scratch-resistant but not scratch-proof; they aren't some immortal enigma.
If mishandled or used in a low-quality, dirty binder, it will still scratch. Nobody at any point said that DVDs have the same scratch resistance as Blu-ray; I assumed any of this information didn't need to be stated as it is fairly common knowledge.
If used with a low-quality disc binder, there would still be superficial scratches on my disc rather than the disc being a literal mirror, although the scratches wouldn't be as obvious, but they'd still exist. The discs are NOT scratch-proof.
I used the Blu-ray disc for comparison simply because I have no DVD based media from when I started properly caring for my discs that ISN'T Blu-ray. (I only started properly caring for my discs when my frontal lobe fully formed)
That's part of why these days, I rip all of it to disk and pretty much don't touch them again afterwards. It's a shame that when these media were more current, that it wasn't an option to do so.
Plus, I convert them and keep them on a NAS for streaming, another thing that wasn't really an option at the time.
I was an unorganized piece of shit that would do the disc stack thing back then. While the blu rays took longer to "break", they were almost repairable in my experiences. Ever since, I'm so glad I decided to take the extra 30 seconds it took to put the things back in their cases. So yeah. My point is that you're right, and should not use these binders.
i wish someone told me disc binders damaged discs when i was a kid now that my frontal lobe is almost fully formed i regret throwing always almost all of my ps2 cases
is fairly common knowledge disc binders screw your discs but here we are.
Thankfully i am piracy supporter so it didn't matter much
Growing up, these were the types of kids you would NEVER lend your games to.
LMFAO 1000%, there's also a level below this that is even worse. The borrow your games and never bring them back or 'lose' them
Yep learnt the hard way, lent a copy of Star Wars kotor 2 on Xbox to a friend back in the day, was mint as I always look after my items, was returned all scratched up, case had lots of wear and manual creased….was not happy! Since then I have never lent anything to anyone lol.
Seriously though, seeing discs in a pile and in the wrong case instantly raised my blood pressure lol
Learned that the hard way with my nieces. RIP Mario Party 6
I had the opposite effect where a friend left their game at my house that somehow ended up in the bottom of our couch by complete accident. That's how I ended up with Megaman Zero X4
demon souls looks better because blu rays are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more scratch resistant than dvds
While that's true, they still do get scratched and can be destroyed even more easily than DVDs. There's not a single scratch on it because I keep it in the case.
If it was in one of these it would have had scratches lol. (Albeit less heinous scratches)
If I kept it in a sleeve you'd see at least a couple scratches instead of a brand new disc.
I have PS2 XBOX ETC games that were kept only in the cases and nearly mint. (But they don't really have the play time on them)
@@thesogo64by the way there are some games that still present these features even if kept in the case… or not played I have three discs like this one is a gta 5 ps3 disc which is practically new but it won’t play it freezes everytime it loads into the game… I also have a bo1 Xbox 360 disc just like the ps3 disc, no starches nothing and still won’t play… I also have a bio shock infinite Xbox one reissue disc I bought from game stop years back and the disc was clean and still wouldn’t boot from the loading screen.
@@rayojordan2838 Hmm maybe disc rot?
@@thesogo64 More easily how? If you so much as to take a DVD and wipe your fingers over it, you could get scratches. That never happens with Bluray
@thesogo64 Blu-ray can't be destroyed more easily than a dvd. They are manufactured with a proctective coating to prevent scratches. You would have to abuse the hell out of it to get a scratch when compared to dvd.
To be completely fair, assassins creed was essentially a DVD, which didn't have the super scratch-resistant plastic that blu rays (ps5, xbox one, wii U) have, but your point still stands. those binders chew through discs as soon as any dirt gets inside the sleeve
Yeah exactly, it sucks I didn't have a clean DVD for that comparison and thank you for backing me up, they are scratch resistant but they aren't immortal lol!
agreed, flawed comparison. also important to note not all disc binders are the same. there is a point to be made though for sure, but its important to note the stress of continuously using original disc cases can crack the inner ring of a disc.
Not only that, Assassin's Creed is also 10+ years old while Demon's Souls is rather new. It was bound to look worse.
P.S. Wii U doesn't use Blu-Ray. It's a proprietary format.
I've used disc binders for PC games since the late 90s and still to this day my disks are still in pristine condition. I guess it depends on what disc binders you get will determine the damages it will do to your discs.
IE: Really cheap ones.
And how dirty they are like mine 😂
And how you're careful with your thing. He's probably very neglectful of his things.
Yeah, I have hundreds of CD's in disc binders and all are pristine. This video was more - I abused the crap out of my stuff and now it is crap.
@@philipadams3325 You can damage any disc if you put significant pressure on any surface, even in its original case. I think this guy is having a perspective of what a child will do with disc binders. Then again, that depends on if the person in consideration has the knowledge on how fragile discs are.
same here@@philipadams3325
Didn't have this problem. My friends did. Never understood why you wouldnt put the disc back where it belonged.
Laziness, and shitty parents.
Being too lazy to find the other case when you grab another basically. And being a stupid kid.
So two issues I thought about these are... A) Disc rot. Disc rot reportedly starts once the top (label) side of a disc is worn away and exposed. Something which the abrasive surface of a disc binder and the movement in/out would cause (damage) that would make disc rot more likely. And B).... Chemical reaction. Under a moist or warm scenario (or both scenarios) I would think it's possible for the binder material to chemically react with the disc surface in a way that leads to parts of the disc binder's material binding into the disc surface. Or as the disc binders material decays, it could lead to the same binding chemical reaction. Just as decaying styrafoam has.
Super good points I should have included in the video
The top label issue is only for CD-ROMS. DVDs and Blurays have the data layer sandwitched in between the 2 layers, making them impervious to this issue.
The disc rot thing the only actually legitimate reason I can think of to not use disc binders (pretending that they scratch discs when you can't be bothered to close the case or wipe them off before inserting them is cringeworthy). I too have worried about this, but I figured that having loose discs that I don't own the boxes to in sleeves is a lot safer than them being loose in a stack somewhere. This video is very VERY narrow-minded and yes, I'm frustrated. 😂 He didn't even mention "disc holders" (I can't think of the correct name for this, it's the kind if thing that is akin to a single stack of discs, but each disc has a plastic tray that a disc sits in that you swing out) which actually can scratch discs.
Assuming you were stupid enough to use a scratch cleaner on yoir disc then yes rot would happen. Otherwise discs dont rot unless the side glue loosens which does not happen to most cd size discs. Laser discs are a whole nother story
As the oldest child in my household and the only one who played video games I got a PS2 all for myself. The best solution in my case was to put the disc back in its right case after use and put it neatly on the shelf:p
I used to do this when I was younger. Luckily the one I bought didn't cause any scratches.
I usually did this when I was traveling to another household or vacation spot.
Even as a kid, I took care of my stuff.
Same. As a third worlder, if I didn't assume poor quality on stuff, I would own nothing
The official PSX carrying case from way back when must be a very good disc binder; it's been holding my games for 25~ years and they are still in good condition. It really depends on the material I reckon.
Definitely depends on material used and how contaminated it is with foreign particles on the sleeves, but also I think anything rubbing on the DVD aside from like some sort of super soft cotton is going to scratch. (At least to a superficial level)
@@thesogo64 A disc binder with microfibre inside the jackets would be perfection 🤑
@@DandyDNA until it becomes dirty...??? 🤷♂️ 😂
That also depends on two things.
1. the quality of the disc binder. I have several good quality ones, and everything in those disc binders looks mint as the backs of the sleeves are designed specifically to avoid scratching CD's, which are even more damage prone than DVD's.
2. Not having dirt on them in the first place when placing them in said binder, and making sure to close the binders up when not in usage, so dust doesn't seep into them.
I've been using them for decades, since my college years. Though it is true that certain types can scratch up discs. Even so, I've never used them for console games, burnt CD's and DVD-R's, and collections from people who kept PC games in disc binders and handed me what they had as they no longer wanted it.
Though honestly, despite some of the comments related to yours and your brothers handling of discs? I had a friend back in high school, you'd think he was the perfect type of person to lend out games to. Very put together, took care of his stuff. His room was emaculate. However, I lent him Sim City 2000, in near mint condition. I get back an old beat up CD case that wasn't the original, without the covers, without the manual, and with the game looking not just damaged on the bottom but also on the top.
Turns out his mother cleaned his room for him. He did not take care of his things, it was merely a perception he maintained in public. In private, he was really a massive slob. It also took the guy months to find my game. That was a lesson. Thankfully it still plays, but there are issues with it. It does hang up sometimes in the drive. I'm amazed it plays at all with how deep some of the scratches are. So looks and perception can be deceiving. After that, it took another 8 or 9 years before someone convinced me to lend them games (my sister, and no, I never lent her anything after that...).
Why do circa 50% of the used game stores, store their discs this way? They have super expensive games (like Silent Hill games, PS3 HD Collection, first party Nintendo games etc.) game cases behind the counter, so people can't steal it, so what gives?
the gamecube does have some of its own special mini disk holders they never get mentioned very often but if you need a disk holder for lose gamecube disks that one works
Even as a child I always put my games back in the cases and lined them up neatly. :D
been warning everyone of these issues since the old days of emuparadise... great video, subscribed. yes it's cheemical reaction, those sleeves are made form some kind of fibers that stick to the surface of the disc
Upvote for the Emuparadise shoutout 👍. They used to have a really good archive of PS1 USA library, PSP Eboot conversions that were really well done. They actually had a good, working MK Trilogy Eboot WITH the CDDA music 🔥
@@TexasHollowEarth Emuparadise was the best. Like all good things, they were never going to last.
Never had problems with disc binders, just people who mistreat the discs (why I never lend out my CD's, DVD's and Blu-rays). As for gaming, glad I grew up with game cartridges instead of optical discs. Those were virtually indestructible! At worse, you might have to clean the PCB pins (or blow on them hah). And everything loaded instantly! Still prefer playing my NES, SNES, TurboGrafx-16, Intellivision, 2600 or Vectrex over my PS1/2/3, GameCube or Xbox OG/360.
Nice username, I have an Apple IIC in box
@@tvguy61 - I just tested out my three binders (they're all "Case Logic") and none of my discs get scratched, not even light scratches. Trust me, as a physical media collector of DVD's and Blu-ray's, I can see even the smallest scratches under proper lighting and the right angle.
These sleeves have a cloth-like material. Could some binders use plastic or more abrasive backings?
FYI, for my 360, Wii/U, PS1/2/3 and GameCube discs, they stay in their original cases. If I have loose copies, I put them in paper envelopes (only have my DreamCast back-up CD-R's in a binder, because I have so many).
@@tvguy61 - Likely different binders have varying quality of protection. Regardless, my best advice is to store your CD's, DVD's and Blu-rays in their original cases--sure it takes up more space, but there's more benefits. I think binders are OK for burned/copied computer discs, that's what I use mine for (got rid of my CD jewel cases long ago, that was a waste of shelf space).
Oh my god... This just awoke a memory.
So my mom got me a PSONE (the smaller PS1 model, because the original stopped working if I remember correctly) and you could get an official PSONE shoulderbag that fit the PSONE and a bunch of games (and the screen which I didn't have).
I begged my mom for it and she got it me and one thing it had was a diskbinder to put all your games in.
Only problem with that is, when you get older and your mom throws your backpack out because she doesn't realize it had a PSONE and a bunch of awesome games in it...
Noooooo, that sucks. RIP games brother.
I don’t even know you and that hurt to hear. 😢
@@NonameNoname-tr8uv It happens to everyone does it not? I bet everyone has something from their childhood that they think back on now and think "Shit! Where did that go?! I'd love to have that now!"
It's a part of growing up : )
@@novelezra sometimes you find what was lost. I'm still holding out hope that I kept more n64 game boxes than I can currently find, but I stopped looking for them if that makes sense. They are gone, or I will happen across them unexpectedly. I got all the manuals though.
! why would she just throw away stuff like that?? That's physically painful to hear, I'm sorry that happened!
I have recently found a old disc binder filled with CDs, nearly all of them are unusable as the material used for the binder sleeves have begun to decompose fusing to the discs and eating through its layers.
Oh gosh...
@@thesogo64it was most likely exposed to heat at some point.
My mom said I should get one to save room and I said no they scratch them up
Facts these are only good for your car. But for games theyre the worst.
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They're definitely good for cars due to the convenience factor. Having CD cases on your dash sucks.
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They suck in arizona heat unfortunatley. Ive had discs that have the plastic clear protector melt onto the disc which rips the label off the disc so its not readable and destroys the disc since the data is under the label. Ive lost many a cd to em lol
@@thesogo64 my dad had a little case in his car that stored the discs with the case. held about 10-15 discs. was a black canvas thing with a zipper, but the inner liner came out and was a plastic thing. I bet any kid would love to have it for their CD games back in the day. basically an advanced shoebox.
I’ve been using disc binders for years (even still use two disc binders that are at least over 15 years old now) and I’ve had no issues. If it is “destroying my discs”, it is doing so at a snails pace
Yeah based on the test I did the damage is extremely superficial, but still causes light damage nonetheless.
Of course if debris got into the disc binder it would cause none superficial damage but I digress.
@@tvguy61 Yes, now think repeated use over years of a heavily played game, or if some debris gets in there too!
I got 2 disc binders last year: one for my 20 years old collection of PS1 games, which were all either in broken cases or plastic bags so old they were shattering, and the other disc binder was for my "new" collection, mostly umm, "backups" of games that I never got to play back then. Suffice it to say, the old games were in better condition the way they were, and the brand new burned discs that I got to play at least once a week since last year are already fogged up from the micro scratches. They're not so bad, though, as once in a while I clean them with a bit of dish soap and water, let them dry by shaking the discs or lightly pressing a paper towel over them (no wiping), and they look as shiny as new.
You can also polish away much of the scratches with a microfiber cloth.
Not me and my brothers, man. We always kept our stuff immaculate.
I never mixed my games up in different cases, so I can't relate. As a collector my games always stayed in the appropriate case they belonged in.
The only games that stayed in those types of binders are the games I bought loose or acquired from a trade or gotten free that were loose.
We lost a huge chunk of our family's DVD, Wii and 360 games because we stored them in plastic disc binders. I couldn't play Sonic Generations on 360 for years until I bought it on Steam in 2020 I make extra damn sure to keep all of my stuff secure and in their cases.
And Disc Binders are bad, but at least they're not as bad as just putting all of your discs on a spindle.
Is this because of the plastic melting onto them like some other commenters said?
Growing up, I had a disc binder to store all of my demo discs I would get on a monthly basis. Lucky for me, I didn't have to worry about losing any games because my habit has always been putting my games right back into the cases where they belong before putting a different game inside the console. This goes for cartridges too unless I don't have a corresponding game case but I eventually got a carrying game case to hold many cartridges.
You say this as I have my caseless Windows discs in a disc binder
Its not the binders, but the users habits, that will ultimately destroy disks. Letting them lay around open with the readable side facing down on a dusty console guarantees you scratches over time
Yep, the bigger issue is moisture getting into the discs and causing problems. Most of my discs are still perfectly good, but I do have a couple that don't read properly anymore, and it's just a matter of moisture or something in the air as the discs haven't been removed from standard cases in years.
I notice this happening to my PS1 disc's. After years of storage, there was a white cloudish film on the black surface the the games. I taken all my disc and put them all back in the game cases where they belong.
I remember my PS1 discs would get scratches just from playing them. Never stored them in a binder and was gentle putting them back in their case. My PS1 ended up not being able to read any game discs anymore, even brand new ones. It was three years old at the time. I think the laser reader was damaging them, but somehow regular CDs (music) would work.
One binder I hated where those with tough plastic sleeves. Often they where tight and squeeze the discs together forcing them to rub as they are pulled out of the sleeve. And many had tabs inserted inside which went behind your disc. They have some sharp edges. I pulled them up and out over the discs. The best folders where the ultra cheap ones with soft plastic holders and they are loose with soft padding. One I bought at dollar tree was the best I ever bought: no tabs and wasn't squashed so I could move it without scraping it against the back
Physical media will sadly wear and tear no matter what eventually 😢
The best way to avoid scratched discs and disc rot is to mod the console so you can rip all of your discs to a large hard drive. That is if modding is possible on your system.
True and maybe if one can’t mod a console, another option would be emulation
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Good upgrade !
I had few games growing up, so I never had to buy a disc binder
Keeping the discs inside the cases looks much cooler !
Thanks for the video !
Thanks man!
I was blessed to have two older brothers, and a mom that spoiled us (we got mostly used games though, we weren't rich or anything)
100% facts keeping discs inside of cases looks cooler
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i watched so many hdmi mods for consoles over the past years and seen so many pixel perfect graphics that seeing the footage you filmed from an actual tv looks amazing. it really masked the low resolution these old games had.
100%, I believe it is the best way to play old consoles, as that is the target device they were designed to be played on. RGB modding is fine IMO.
Why did you think HDMI modding would be a good idea to begin with? What did you expect?
he's right. Blu-Rays are inherently more resistant to damage.
I made myself a Disney Wish DVD and when I took it out of the binder it had a smudge on it, preventing it from reading, so I had to make a new copy. It was sad because I perfectly hand wrote the title in its font when labeling the disc with a blue sharpie, so I had to do it all over again.
I have an entire library of original Xbox games where almost all of them can't be played because my dad put them in a disc binder. He didn't know any better at the time, but the damage has been insufferable.
As an adult, I disagree. I just swapped out like 50 of my CDs into a big binder, as long as you take good care of the disc and binder, they will be fine. I even have the booklet and the art work in each sleeve with the CDs and they are just fine. You were a bit more wreckless as kids. But you know better now.
Fair point, the damage from my dirty binder is fairly minimal when I "simulated" wear LOL
@@thesogo64 you still have good points in the video though. Just gotta get a good binder and things will work out. Saves SOOOO much space. I do something similar with my video games. I put them in individual plastic sleeves that are thin. They hold the art work, booklet and the disc[within a paper sleeve] and it saves SOOOOOO much space xD love it. :3
I had to switch to the binders because the 360 cases use to hold the discs too tightly and ended up causing cracks on the inner ring.
lmao I've never had a binder ruin a disc in my entire life and all my disks are stored in binders.
Same here. This vid is fullash:t
I was (and still am) a very organized person. And one of my biggest gaming pet peeves during that time is when people wouldn’t put my games back in the case after they were done! It drove me crazy! My other pet peeve was people that put the wrong game in the wrong case. In the early 2000s (I was18 by that time) you would’ve drove me nuts!
Used to have these when I was a kid, and one of my neighbors still use these. Luckily, I moved out of the binders when I started my gaming collection.
Never had this problem I always put the game back in it’s case when I’m done with it and have every disc upright in it’s case
I used to do that but not anymore these don’t break your CDs I only did that cause I bought CDs without the box that was not there the cd was sold separately this was the only way to keep them safe from getting scratched
disc binders are a godsend for people like me who keep upwards of thirty cd's in their car to listen to lol
0:26 I'm absolutely baffled at the fact that this was the game that I would constantly lose going from disc-binder to stacked piles to case, and it's still missing to this day.
LOL!
I had like a whole closet full of these things at one point. Cd's, dvd's, and pirated games. I have no idea where they are at this point.
I stopped using CD cases when I graduated high school. Nowadays I keep the original cases for all of my DVD's and video games.
Also, I have never seen a scratch on a single bluray game of mine because they're hard-coated. I'm not willing to experiment to see how durable they are.
Same
I thought this was going to be about music and I was like “who the hell is going to carry around or store all their CDs in their case”. I have never put a game/movie anywhere other than in the case or player/console. I feel weird even putting it on a counter for even a split second.
Thank you for all the information! Great video!
Haha applies to also CDs so wasn't a total misclick.
Thanks bro!
Who would put CDs in a case? Me. I have hundreds of loose CDs that I paid a penny each for (local thrift store). This video that tries to tell me that I'm foolish for protecting those CDs (that I've never owned cases for, that's why they were a penny each) is too funny. What am I supposed to do, stack them up in a pile? I don't need quick access to them, since I usually listen to FLAC rips. It's very telling how his only defense of disc binders involved GameCube games. Maybe it never occured to him that people would willingly buy loose discs in the same way that it never occured to me that there were people out there who would be silly enough to put games that they own boxes for in a disc binder.
@awesomeferret, I'm going to be honest with you. Your experience seems in no way similar to his, so Idk why you're expecting him to cater to yours. Just ignore the video and move on bro.
@@PedroKing19 to be so immature... Amazing. So, just because I try to tell him EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD ME, I need to "move on, bro"? Nice try. 😂 The incredible irony... Too funny. 😂 It's literally because of what you said that my comment hasma purpose. Good gosh. What's so bad about me wanting to point out that some people have had much better experiences (largely because they shop for better binders)? It's clearly not me who needs to "move on". 😂
@@awesomeferretThis video isn't making anyone look foolish, you're creating that in your mind. You're acting as if explaining the potential downsides of something is the same as telling people they're stupid for doing that thing.
If I tried to perform a crooked cartridge glitch on the Nintendo 64, and you caught me in the act and tried to explain how it could corrupt the data, should I say you were trying to make me look foolish because I've done it in every game and none of my data has been corrupted yet?
I thought as well that this WAS really cool idea to keep all the PS1 games inside of giant disc binder "book""...
But years later i regret, that i got rid of all the original cases due to lack of storage around my living place.
Although, somehow managed to keep the games just for the looks, even any of them barely works.
Now in present, i keep each game in its original casing, no matter which platform. Got plenty of room to store games aswell!
And IF some guest won't put the game back into the proper case, i'll warn it just to keep everything organised after its "gaming session".
I think I've actually only ever used disc binders for traveling, since it's a lot easier to fit the disc binder with 20 discs in your backpack than 20 individual cases, and I always put them back in the normal case when I got home.
Honestly I’m glad that I don’t take the discs off the cases on a disc binder. Helped me find the games easier
There has never been an instance in my life since i was about 5-6, where i didn't put a game/vhs/cassette/dvd/bluray back in it's case after finishing with it.
I learned this around 2015-16, never did this but thought it was cool as a kid. Looking at them now, gives me anxiety whenever I see people use them. They don't know, and I feel like I should tell them...not sure if they'd care though
My Dad liked these disc binders but I was always a staunch disc case person, as the cases are part of the art and enjoyment.
So true
I only use them for backups/copies. I always kept the original games in their original cases.
the worse that happen is not getting it scratched but getting it bent and all of them
Never had this before, I'll have to research
lol, never had this problem, that was because I always put them back in their proper case. I use disc binders for loose games or for travel or when going to someone's house to play video games.
I never had a problem with disc binders and will continue to use them.
Or just take care of your media (as a young kid, teenager, or adult!) ie I have thousands of CDs and DVDs and don't even use disc folders, I simply fold and A4 piece of paper in half, place the CD on the paper media side up in order to work out where to fold in the outside edges, then take it away and fold the two sides inwards. That forms a simple paper wallet. I then store these inside boxes, shoeboxes with superglued cardboard slats so that they are at an angle, or even just a couple inside existing DVD cases (and use a database to keep track of what is where). It is disc rot that's the problem, not even with keeping the CDs well, some were just 'made' to not last long or on cheaper media.
Great video, and I get the fun and jokes and even sarcasm, but there simple shouldn't be any scratches at all. If a house is kept clean, the CDs are handled by the edges, and placed softly away (ie even now when you filmed this, you placed a game dvd case ontop of a CD that was media-side up!!!! Grrr lol
I'm only slightly (and more jokingly) annoyed because when I find great stuff at thrift stores and 2nd hand shops, mostly they are scratched because nobody cared, no parents taught respect of CDs (and belongings in general) and a rare media is ruined :(
Vacuuming inside a CD wallet might also help since most these days will have aquired dust. I cannot believe I've typed all this lol but yeah, the video should simply be about placing CDs slowly and carefully in a wallet, keeping the wallet and the room and the CD tray clean, never double-fill and just take pride and attention to what you own.
Still subbed though because a the jokes and well-made video! =)
My friend always questioned why I didn’t just use a disc binder since it takes up less space. He didn’t believe the fabric could scratch up the discs. All his games look like they’re 2 steps away from not reading while most of mine are near flawless.
the worst thing about dirt getting into a cd binder is it scratching off the label side of a game/cd, pretty much losing songs or bricking the disc altogether
I always use disc binders for loose games I own, everything else stays in their box
thank god i was never into disc binders, my family teached me VERY early that paying for games wasn't cheap so putting them back in their box was a priority when i was younger because i knew that my parents would be very angry seeing those games they bought for me all over the place.
our family did have disc binders, but they were mostly used for CDs, Music to listen in the car and such.
My brother sent me this video; after watching it makes perfect sense why so many discs we thought we were taking care of ended up in such bad shape. Thanks for this.
As a kid I used the disc booklet I remember my dad would put the disc out laying on top of the system every time… especially when I wanted to play vice city. It wasn’t until I got a 360 is where I always put my disc in its case.
This video is true on so many levels. Just keep them in their cases
The spindle you snap your disc onto when you put it in its actual case is there for a reason. The surface of the disc is suspended away from even the plastic of the case itself. The discs can't get scratched because there's nothing to scratch them.
Exactly
I had the latest binder bought like 4 years ago, no scratches on a single disc yet. Buy the rectangle or square one which can be put vertically to avoid scratching and discs weighting down on each other.
yea, i had my games cases stored away since i get annoyed by clutter in my home, got me a caselogic case that DJs used, inly thing that concerned me was when filling the while thing up with discs, it becomes a packed wallet, bending your cds, as for the scratching overtime thing, i dont notice any scratches being added overtime.
Back when I was a kid half of my game collection would be games in cases because those games I just didn't have the case for because my dad somehow bought that game without the case from some 3rd party seller or we just lost the case. R.I.P Tekken 5 on the PS2
I've never had this problem and 3:55 is why. That's not the binder's fault. You put more elbow into destroying that disc than a krav-maga instructor.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i'd agree if not for the factor of space. the apartment i9 live in doesn't have the space for cases for all the disks i own.
My parents thought they were slick by replacing our media shelf with a game binder.
Yeah it was good until our games and DVDs slowly stopped working.
Edit: This comment used to be hearted
Yeah so much easier to damage them. (Unless someone doesn't carefully take discs out from their cases and cracks the inner ring(
@@thesogo64 fully agreed
(Also I edited a typo in my comment so it it lost the heart)
The later model 360 game cases would actually cause the ring in the center to crack. That’s why I used those disc binders
There were kids who appreciate their toys and took care of them, then there were kids who didnt care at all about anything they had and treated everything like garbage 😂
I have a bunch of those, but I never used them for anything other than my CD-Rs. If they got stolen or scratched, I always had the original at home. Still have the originals, though they are in storage now.
That's a good idea
As a kid I had a full storage cabinet around my xbox so I would lay out all the games with the data side pointed up and then flip them over until I found the one I wanted to play. This would get to be like 10 discs. Once I ran out of room then grab the top case from the stack and throw a game in there.
I rely on the binders for my demo discs (over 100) since they came from magazines mostly. Some of the demo discs came in their own little case, so I might consider getting personalized cases for the others in the future.
That's not a bad use
This would have been nice to know in the 80s/90s well done
I'll build a time machine, don't worry brother
1:56 No effen way! You got Thrillville!? The sequel, Thrillville: Off the Rails is legitimately my favorite game of all time :D
I loved thrillville. In hindsight it's not the greatest game of all time but I solidly enjoyed it.
I have a disc binder and no scratches at all from the binder itself. Only time i get scratches is by using the disc in the console. You have to be extra careful sliding the disc in the binder though. I do not slide the disc in but make enough room to just place the disc by lifting the sleeve
I bought a disc binder for professional use (DJs and such), it's pretty big and has a lot of sleeves. like 6 per "page" and the sleeves are transparent on the top, so when you open a page you're looking at 12 discs at once.
I separate them by console (page 1-3 = Ps3, page 4-6 = xbox 360, for example) so I don't really have problems finding anything.
My games were always stored in their cases. The cases sadly are in horrible condition from opening and closing them hundreds of times, and leaving them laying around my basement.
I had one of these from IKEA, but they weren't very good unless you were using them for burned discs, as you didn't always want to keep all the cases for those, other than that i agree 100% as I've bought a few games used, and they look like they were rubbed on sandpaper with some of those discs.
I use CD Ejectors: they grip around the edges, but still protect the disc inside a transparent case, that takes up waay less space than the regular case... that one i keep in storage to protect the artwork... i even have different colored ones to differentiate the system. Like PS4 is Black and PS5 is blue etc..
It's like pushing glass in and out of sand paper.
I got yelled at if i misplaced discs into their wrong case, i'm really glad about that all these years later since they're all where they should be still
Get yourself a Case Logic disc binder and put your worries away.
Kept every case for my games and movies.. felt wrong not using their beautiful cases. 😅
Those disc cases are good for when you are traveling. I had an original xbox travel case and it had a hook for you to hook onto your pants while you were walking over to a friends place to play. It allowed you bring a lot more games with you and it was padded to protect what you were putting in there. It also had a net for..... I am not really sure I never used it but i guess you could put memory cards in them. It was made for a time when you didn't have internet in your home. I am talking about the early 2000's, not the late 2000's like the halo 3 and wii era. You would go over and play tony hawk, mortal kombat, mech assault, battlefront, all those early 2000 games that you couldn't play with others with that internet connection that you didn't have. From looking at your collection it seems you had games from the latter era and your mom may have been old fashioned by giving you a disc binder so you wouldn't destroy your games. I may be wrong, the playstation 2 and the gamecube was from the early 2000's, but your collection just looks like they were singleplayer games on the playstation 2 or games from the later 2000's, again maybe your mom being cheap and not wanting to spend too much money on video games. Also, 007: Nightfire was fire, that game got better the further you got into it.
Sidenote: that 007 case looks like a platinum hits case, meaning your mom bought it later on after it sold a bunch and they re-ran new copies to be sold later on. If it was the original run of copies it would have been in the green case, or it wasn't that big of a hit. Just saying......
I bet the net was for memory card, so you could take your saves to a friend's house. The memory card was not a very popular accessory due to the hdd. Just enough space in the net for that without hurting the discs right?
Right. I didn’t really put anything in there because when I zip it up it felt like I was going to break the games inside. I never used memory cards because the hard drive *never* ran out of space. I swear you could have every game you could imagine and it would still say 5000+ blocks of space remaining.
One little thing. Also think BR disks have a harder protective coating than DVDs so it's harder to get those super shallow scratches you see with a disk holder.
We would often just stack discs on top of each other on a shelf in the entertainment center, especially with the playstation 1 games
Yeah I said that about these back in the late 80s/ into the 90s when they were used for CD's. I had a friend that used them, and he used to cut a square of paper towel out and put it behind his CD"s in the binders.
I used to know more than a few guys in the late 90s/into the PS2 era in the 00's, that would throw all the packaging for their games away and just keep the discs in these things. I thought they were off their rocker !!
I will say that BluRay discs are a bit tougher than CDs and DVDs.
Keeping a disc in its case is the best way to keep them, tho.
Yeah, I thought they were tougher but not significantly.
@@thesogo64 100%. I just felt like there needed a mention. Great video, BTW! 😁
@@GamingwithTai Thanks dude, and thanks for trying to keep me and others informed.
@@thesogo64 Normal discs are scratched from breathing on them (exaggerating). Blurays are way more resilient since they have an anti-scratch coating that CDs and DVDs never had.
I did scratch up a lot of CDs back in the day with one of these. I’ve had to re-purchase a couple of albums because of this, or one got cracked entirely sitting in these things.
"The first issue is the search time omg like I can't bare to waste up to 5 seconds to find the game game I want to play it's driving me nuts a whole 5 seconds guys"
Thank you. After all these years, you’ve helped prove that my paranoia was in fact, sound logic.
Two discs in one game case, i can relate to that.
I ragert these transgression on retro gaming