“If I had a nickel for every time Justin Bieber had a big-time pastor whose reputation was ruined by infidelity and promiscuity, I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice, right?”
Truly nothing wrong with being extremely affluent and a person of God. The main issue is pastors in general. Leaders of a tax free entity nowadays is no good
Pastors should not live waayyyyyy abovee their congregation especially if the only thing they do is that. If their lifestyle is being funded by the church it is wring .You should not be living like thar if you congregation are struggling@@emjayee
Since that pastor espouses the viewpoint that everyone is god’s favorite he should be ok with any member of his congregation sitting up there in that VIP section. I have a feeling he’s not though.
Instead, the pastor should encourage the celebrities to be humble and stress that everyone is equal under God. One of the most endearing testimonies I've heard is what happened in NY's Times Square Church under leadership of the late David Wilkerson when a homeless leaned on a shoulder of an *army general* during a service.
This is because there's a line of paparazzi at thr door. I went there for a good while and it's kinda ridiculous what the paparazzi would do.i meet justin at a church event and he was talking to anyone that didn't wanted to just take a picture w him.
Heartbreaking 😔 so evil. I hope those women are watching videos like this and know how many people support them. I’m a Christian too and if you experience SA it is NOT your fault and I promise I hear and believe you. Please find a church where people are held accountable and it’s not just prosperity gospel. Of course God forgives all sin but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have consequences. So so sorry for women this has happened to you deserve so much better
You would think, seeing how greedy the church is, that they would figure out hiring someone with a known predator past would open them up to a lawsuit. I don't know why they're always so eager to defend these scum.
@@zarasbazaarsome churches yes. Not all. Kind of weird to lump them all together when there’s over 350,000 denominations in the Christian church, some are bound to be corrupt . But this idea that the entire church is corrupt, simply isn’t true.
"I never had sex... until I was married." "You have no idea what guilt-free sex is like, it's amazing." Interesting thing to say about sex and guilt for someone who wouldn't know about guilt and sex since he waited for marriage, right? 🤔
I think Justin may need to develop his relationship with God alone before seeking a church…it’s so hard to heal from church trauma and there are so many preachers who seem to start out with true intentions but they begin to idolize money and their pride which always leads to a downfall.
He 'follows'. Basically, he's lost and need guidance. Real guidance. I'd say he's easily influenced/impressed. I agree that he should seek spiritual guidance in solace.
this iswhat i’m tryna tell my parents who have been in a mega church back in africa for years now. the pastor wears designer, drives jets, has motorcades. its a cult.
That's often what cults do ... prey on wealthy people and celebs. They are good for publicity, money, and power. Many of them are vulnerable due to their position as public figures, too.
People love to hate on Justin Bieber, but all is see is a young adult who seems to be searching for deeper meaning in life…and the people he turns to just using him for clout. It makes me sad.
@@notthegoodgirlI wish you would make it clear that the “pastors” you make videos on provide teachings which are antithetical to living a Christian life. Mega “churches” are a stain on the world for both Christians and non-Christians alike.
All churches are like this, I’ve seen even small churches take money from their congregations for their own benefit, sad reality which is important why churches need to be taxed 🤑 but in this country who knows if that will even happen 🤦🏻♀️
Bingo! John 2:14-16 “ In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers sitting there. 15 And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. 16 And he told those who sold the pigeons, “Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade.” Jesus would do the same here!
It's so odd to me how many American pastors happily say they "have visions" or that "God spoke directly to them and told them to do X". If someone said something like that in my country their mental health and position in the church would be seriously questioned.
I went to a megachurch when I was younger A pastor asked my mom to volunteer as an event coordinator for a church group, and she declined because she was a single mom working and going to university During a service, the lead pastor of the church and another man suddenly approached my mom and started saying that God told them she would do great things as the event coordinator for the church group My mom later confronted the lead pastor and said she felt that was manipulative, and he said he couldn't talk about it because he was fatigued from fasting for spiritual reasons It's often a tool to manipulate members of the congregation into doing what the church leaders want
You obviously come from a sane society of flawed humans (as do I Australia and thensame would happenhere andnwe laigh at thr Yanks for this craziness - we dint live in a society of narcissistic sociopaths whom live and breathe Capitalist imperialism...the grandiosity of the creepy weirdo 🍘🧂 whom was bragging about bragging YIKES 😂🤷♂️
My parents sent me to boarding school when I was 12 because god spoke directly to them and told them to go to Africa and “save the world”. It’s the worst thing that ever happened to me or my family. And when I ask my parents HOW they could send a little girl away to be raised by strangers, they say “god told us to, so we knew he’d take care of you and everything was in his hands”. ALL Christians in Australia believe that god speaks directly to them and tells them what to do. ALL Christians believe they speak to god and god speaks to them. That is a fundamental element of Australian/American/British/and NZ Christianity.
@PaleMagnolia as an Australian born (ethnic) citizen and Atheist I can most definitely confirm this. Anglo Saxon Imperialists by their very nature are the most Fascistic and un-christ like people
It infuriates me when people act like God made their lives perfect, like they're special, as opposed to just being privileged or lucky. It's like "Well, God just didn't care about all those people living in poverty elsewhere."
I'm not saying it's good but I can understand because Hollywood and paparazzi if it wasn't for anything else and just had it so paparazzi's couldn't get to the celebrities that it would be fine but because everything else alongside the section it's kind of trash
Chelsea admitting she had an epiphany while taking what must have been a truly magnificent dump is on a whole other level. Seriously, our family loves your documentaries - top quality in every respect - and you continue to raise the bar for others attempting to do the same!
The ppl conveniently forget that Jesus kicked over the money lenders and money makers stalls in the church because it’s vulgar to do such a thing in church. Jesus wasn’t vain or Gucci’d down. Man oh man.
Every single small to mega sized church I went to as a child had a scandal. Even the Christian high school I attended had one. I am not surprised by this at all especially considering the amount of money involved. Organized religion is corrupt.
No church should have a roped off area for celebrities...not the message of faith and acceptance. I too love your work, you are very talented and I second the motion to get your videos on Netflix! :)
If I were a celebrity, I would for sure want a section away from people. Do you know how annoying it would be if when you're trying to worship in peace, someone kept asking for a photo or an autograph? Most celebrities want a normal experience when they go out, but they can't have that unless they are away from crowds and paparazzi.
It's the people cosplaying Christianity that are the problem. Also salvation deliverance and walking the straight and narrow path doesn't happen all at once.It takes time work,tears, temptations and questioning oneself.😊😊
Imagine you die and your son uses his business degree to yassify/modernize and flip ur hometown church to make big bank off celebs. ROLLING IN DA GRAVE 😩
Not to blame the victim, but this man completely dropped the ball on the spiritual growth of his own son. So I don't believe he could have been a very good pastor himself
The fact that they have a roped off section of the church JUST for rich people really does just encapsulate so much of modern American Christianity, doesn't it? The thing that always gets me, as someone who grew up in a very, very Christian household, but never felt comfortable with organized religion in general, is just how much supposedly religious people will just...literally not READ the thing that they not only claim they live by, but also demand that EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH live by! Luke 18:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to entire the kingdom of God"
Agreed. If I were solely judged on who I was in my 20’s…I’d be hopeless too (or worse). Justin, in my opinion, navigated the best way he could with the exploiting resources he had (unfortunately). I also believe Hailey has been good for him in all ways (stability, consistency, spiritually, emotionally, etc.).
the "more broken the better" doctrine that a lot of corrupt pastors teach is one of their manipulation tactics. When they teach that the more broken you are on the inside, the more god loves you, they're training you to accept and excuse abuse done to you. So when you come to them with how the abuse is affecting you, they can say that you need to follow god's will and allow him (aka your abusers) to break you. And if you can't take the abuse and want it to stop, they can guilt you with not being broken and humble enough for god's blessing. So they siphon your money, your body, your time, your hard work etc, all the while making you believe that their abuse is god's plan for you and your suffering is how god keeps you closer to him.
The concept of being blessed is so interesting because it's appealing. It gives people an excuse to make sense of why there's so much bad in the world while their lives are decent and okay. It's really wild to me that people think like that, especially people with the ability and influence to change the bad they see or at least combat it.
My cousin goes to one of these churches. She has had a very hard life--sexual abuse by father; mentally disturbed mother; found out her husband was cheating on her; divorce; death of young daughter; lives at just above poverty level . . . and she is SUPER religious; church twice a week and constant prayer and Bible reading. So I wonder how she feels when someone brags about how much God loves them because they have an easy life and great material possessions.
Expecting an employee to tithe during a financial hardship, while wearing designer clothes and have a roped off section for celebrities with their own private buffet damn near. Is fucking gross. They aren't there for god, they're in it for money & status. Plain & simple
These pastors give off big “How do you do fellow kids?” vibes. I don’t understand how anyone could take them seriously. And I’m someone who grew up with a pastor grandfather, went to church anytime it was open, and went to Christian school. No longer a part of the church, and haven’t been since I left high school.
Maybe it's the charisma in those types of Charismatic communities? Dynamic, emotional, passionate, confident communication style. Plus, a community built upon not questioning/disagreeing with the pastor. Cult of Personality. ( P.S. - Maybe find a mature, serious community to be a part of ....OR....start your own small group / fellowship at home or meet in a cafe. )
Avoid pastors who insult their wives from the pulpit. Flee if the pastor whines about his sex life. Call in air support if they brag about their sin and use peer pressure to coerce the wife in the same few sentences.
I had a friend I wanted to baptize me so I thought and he was so wicked to me I know we are all only humans but it wasn’t giving godly he cannot touch me he was telling us everything that 😢
Masturbation is a matter of personal conviction, but tithing isn't? They want to change the story line about that, but not about tithing? Maybe because they rely on getting and spending other people's money?
That immidiatly shows me huge red flags, seems to be another scam church where the leaders are just collecting money for themselves. I wonder if this church is open about the pastors salary, wouldn't surprise me if they are not.
NO do not follow fictitious characters who you turn into your role models. You cant gain insight from illusion. Exercise the damn common sense and ability to gain intellect that hundreds of millions of years of evolution has given you. You won a cosmic lottery. A whole bunch of events that led to this point in time. Those that follow this crap blindly still live in the past and whine about the future and fight against it. Grabbing to pull you into the water with them to float. Science leads to discovery, to cure, to growth. This shit leads to crawling back into caves afraid of the unknown, but thinking that everything was created so you could wipe your ass with it. There is NO Jesus. SORRY !!! Also no Superman, Batman, Thor, Catain America.......................You shouldnt live yoiur life wrapped up in illusion and fantasy. Religion is an anchor. Believing in Superman or not believing in Superman is not going to change facts, science, math, numbers, history or wisdom. LOLOLOL It'll waste away your potential though. God doesnt cure disease. People do. God doesnt feed people. People does, nature does, science does. God doesnt handpick who dies in a storm, a war, there are no favorites. God doesnt watch out for one kid hiding under a desk and let another kid die, you sickos. Enough already.
Fight this hypocrisy! Don't shame people who trusted the leaders of their faith when they have been repeatedly lied to. I know that was not your intention, but your comment is unhelpful.
I grew up in WA state and attended conferences at Judah Smith’s church yearly - they were called “the generation conference”. They kept us up late - lots of messages full of hate for the lgbtq community, emotionally draining alter calls where they would pray over you until you broke into tears. Carl Lentz spoke there almost every time. At 15 I was accused of being involved in witchcraft and prayed over despite my insistence that I had never dabbled in it. Those memories are traumatizing and the a huge reason why I will never set foot in a church again.
Absolutely. I just started reopening these wounds to heal from them as I’m pregnant with my first child and want to be the best I can be for him. I just sort of went from church being my whole life because of the Pentecostal cult like community I grew up in to going to a public college - first time in public school and seeing the world for how it actually is. Quickly I fell into habits to numb out and forget and that was alright for my 20s but I’m now 33 and still have not addressed the religious abuse I endured growing up. And that’s what it is - religious abuse. Gaslighting you into believing you are nothing without god. Just a lowly worm who fornicates and in my case apparently dabbled in witchcraft. (Which I did later on just to see what the hype was about - my own little rebellion) I am so happy to see people speaking out about these mega churches finally. It’s been a very isolating experience and I’ve spent a lot of time wondering if it was as bad as I remember but it was. It really was. I saw TD Jakes speak at Generation Conference a couple of times. They really rolled out the red carpet for him so to speak. Judah and Lentz also talked about their sex lives with their wives A LOT. Like they damned us for having any sort of sexual relation before marriage but then bragged on and on about how banging their wives were and how much fun sex with them was. It was a trip man.
Agreed. Selective “translating” of the Bible to suit one’s point, recommending that people be boastful, wearing strange & expensive designer clothing, etc., etc., etc.: absolutely antithetical to every basic teaching of Jesus. Just so sad that people who genuinely want to be kind, ethical people are swayed by these cultic tactics.
Never heard of Judah. He kinda scars me. There’s something so off about him 😳 perhaps, that uncanny valley vibes?? I find it so weird (and icky) when pastors want to be famous or align themselves with celebrities. I wouldn’t trust them with my neighbor’s pet rock! I’m certainly not about to trust them with my soul 🫠
Only two years later, the pastor was wearing his grandma's sweater. Money can buy Gucci, but it can't buy good taste. The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
I grew up in the 80’s when evangelical church shows were all over the tv on Sundays. I knew people who had no money, but would give money to these people. I think every one of them ended in scandal. This video is giving me flashbacks and not in a good way!! 😮 Thank you for another great video!
I may be an atheist, but doesn't your Jesus have some harsh words for rich people? "Give all you have to the poor and follow me" - how hard is that to understand. "Give a tenth of your income so rich pastors can buy designer clothes" - where is that in the bible?
God doesn't have anything against rich people. Putting money before God is what God doesn't like because it leads to idolatry therefore breaking His commandments. Like that verse you wrote, if God gives you the option like he did to that young ruler, to either follow him or money and we chose money, the we obviously love money more than God. It was a test to reveal the truth on that person's heart, and he failed.
"God doesn't have anything against rich people." What about the parable of the camel and the needle pin? Wasn't it said because the rich dude refused to give up on his riches even if he wanted to follow Jesus?
Call me bitter, but I do not buy one bit that Justin was just trying to find his way by engaging with these people. Throughout all of this, he disrespected his young fans, mistreated Selena Gomez, bullied Taylor Swift, and belittled his wife (that's still ongoing). Like most hateful religious people, he goes to church so he can tell himself he's a good person. I don't feel sorry for him.
I went to churchome once.... it felt fake, weird, and money-hungry (plus everyone there is just trying to find a wife 🙄). Glad I left without giving them a cent
SAME. I went to a university like 20 minutes from the original Seattle location and went maybe twice during my time at university, but I felt like I didn't fit in at all. It felt clique-y and I'm so glad I never went back. Left my faith behind entirely after university.
The "trying to find a wife" part is healthy. There are no single Christian men aged 28-65 in any church near me. I want a masculine man and I've never met one in a church, and now there just aren't any single men at all. Where are the divorced dads? I'm one of only three single women in my huge Baptist church in Melbourne -- one had an ab_sive marriage and is off men forever, one suffers from depression, and there's me. Married people don't want to have anything to do with you once they're married and you're not. Walking on the Narrow Path is a lonely road to walk.
God speaks to those with ears to hear. I'm not saying what this man claims is right but those who spend time in contemplation, prayer, meditation, ritual/ceremony, or mystic practice learn how to listen to God and he is speaking at all times. The point of a developed spiritual practice is calming the ego to a point that it doesn't obfuscate his will. Often times the only way to describe the "messages" one gets is through listening or seeing. It is not a physical thing or a hallucination, it's revealed, subtle, and dependent on the receptivity of the individual.
Justin Bieber isnt a victim. None of these celebs are. You dont have to go to a super fancy mega church. You can go to any church. You can serve God anywhere. Buddy likely likes the VIP treatment. And likes being around other mega rich people. And I don’t want to pass judgment on him. That life is likely all he knows. He’s been famous since he was a child. But he could absolutely find somewhere else to go.
It's weird how Justin Bieber's mother found these two guys. I'd say it's borderlining on parental abuse to put him through churches like this but I'm in no position to dictate that.
I'm often thankful for the way I was raised, specifically with the idea that your live your faith and your beliefs every day, and no amount of special names, places, titles, or grand displays can actually take the place of how you conduct yourself in life. If you're a Christian, that's wonderful, and as long as you live out the teachings of God and Jesus in your everyday life, then you're doing your faith proud (again, how I was raised. I understand many others will disagree with that sentiment). But I'm happy to have it when I see these kinds of churches and especially mega churches profiting off of their loyal followers and abusing that trust and faith given to them by their flock. It feels unbecoming of someone claiming to be faithful to the teaching of the Bible. Don't preach one thing and then do the opposite behind closed doors. And if you can't live what you're preaching, then you should go find yourself another belief system, because faith doesn't bend to your whims; you're supposed to be the one that compromises your behavior to live faithfully.
Amen and so beautifully stated. We must have been raised with the same values and teachings. Just be who you claim to be everywhere you go and to everyone you encounter. We are all equal humans and we should treat each other with grace and love, no human being should be put on a pedestal, we all are sinners, people will always fall short. But we still should all do our very best to be loving and play nice.
I’ve danced with Judah before. He came to Sydney for Presence conference one time and I was apart of the youth team. I was a minor at the time and I remember he grabbed my hands during worship and pulled me close. I was too star struck to do anything haha! But now thinking back on it, it was really weird
@@henrymars6626hopefully your joking? Or just haven’t read the Bible. But Judah is not similar to Judas…. Judah was a tribe of Isreal. Though I don’t like Judah here in this video, it’s comments like this that start bad information.
Ahhhhh so excited when your videos come out!!! 👏👏👏 I’m a Christian but go off of very biblical sermons not pastors just saying what pops in their head.
My life isn't flawless either but boy, am I grateful to be a zillion miles away from these megachurch and self-made pastor worlds. Thanks for another splendid video, NTGG team!
You can disclose anything you want to after signing an NDA. You can also get sued to death for doing so. The only protection they have is if the disclosure is to the police.
I feel like his mom was just looking for Godly men to help her help her son. I’m sure she has been disappointed by those two men as well. But, it does look like they have had a positive influence on JB initially, hopefully with his own maturity he can learn from the mistakes he has had on his own as well the mistakes he has witnessed from these older men who he looked up to. Prayers for all of them to get back to the teachings of Jesus, and seek forgiveness, and focus on their families. Non of them should be in any type of biblical leadership of others, they have lost that role morally. But Jesus will always forgive them if they truly ask and repent. Thank you Jesus!
You need to do the Richmond Outreach Center (the ROC) you may not have heard of it if you aren’t from CA, TX, or VA but that story is WILD! I grew up in the church. I was a pastors kid there at one point since they had multiple pastors. I’d love to hear the story from an outside pov!
I used to see this guy on TV when I lived in Seattle. He had the "cool guy" super styled hair and I knew he was bad news. Also: Imagine tithing 10% of your wages to a church(10% that could be going to your kids college fund or your future retirement) and the head of that church is buying Gucci with it. Gross.
This channel always has me clicking out of whatever else I was watching as soon as I see a new upload 😍 love the insight on this one, there’s so much about them that I never knew
Everything about this story is why you will NEVER see me in the church again. Its a den of evilness and greed filled with predatorial behavior lack of accountability narcissistic and psychopathic behavior
Not all are like this. Christ's true church is still out there. Sadly it's getting harder and harder to find them in this country. But they are there. And the emphasis is on the work of Christ concerning salvation and sanctification. Not building bigger buildings, getting rich and rubbing shoulders with celebrities.
I recently walked away from Christianity and I am glad I did. I know not all churches are bad but this faith or religion has become so twisted. I simply cannot be a part of it anymore. People twist so much I just didn’t know what to believe anymore. I felt ashamed a lot of my urges and desires, I felt ashamed that I couldn’t afford to give 10%+ of my paycheck for sacrificial giving (you had tithing, offerings, plus pastors would ask for special giving for whatever else). I couldn’t stand being a part of a faith that claims to be of love yet spread so much hate. I couldn’t stand the hate towards the LGBTQ+ community, I couldn’t stand the shaming of people and their most basic human desires, I couldn’t stand feeling like I didn’t get something I prayed so hard for, for years, because I did something wrong. My experience was not, I prayed for it and I got it, like pastor Judah claims. I prayed for years, was a “good Christian girl” for years and still, nothing. A lot of things went unanswered, I felt miserable, and it got to a point where being in church didn’t feel real anymore. I felt like I was faking so much. The more I hear, the less I like, the more vindicated I feel about my decision to walk away. And I have never, ever liked mega churches, nor have I ever been a member of one.
That $18 million / year doesn;t just buy Gucci shoes. It's also given to politicians who create laws promoting the "traditional family" and anti-lgbtq. There's no reason why they're tax free.
I think the tax exempt law for churches should change. At the very least, any church making over a certain amount should be taxed. They should also be required to use a certain percentage of tithes on local charitable organizations.
No taxation without representation also it could be like the government is endorsing a religious organization this could get ugly if they was taxed because then they are going to want to be represented politically for there taxes and no one truly wants the church in politics
As a Christian who loves your videos, I find these videos helpful. It helps me understand how the world sees my faith and mistrusts it because there are wolves in sheep’s clothing using faith to do wrong. I pray that in the future the amount of selfish evil pastors grow fewer and further.
🤔 It does resemble Scientology closer than anything promoted in the book that says, "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." and "Flee sexual immorality." and "Show no favouritism. If you tell the rich person sit here and tell the poor person stand there or sit at my feet, have you not become judges with evil thoughts?"
“In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers sitting there. 15 And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. 16 And he told those who sold the pigeons, “Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade.” John 2:14-16 Jesus would be doing the same at these blasphemous & money hungry places.
But you see, those old-timey traders weren't "chosen ones". So they needed to be kicked out. These modern pastors had visions one stormy night in which God told them they're chosen and that He wanted them to be filthy rich. That's the explanation. But that's not the bizarre part. It's their followers happily accepting such explanations.
Crap like this is part of why I can't stand organized religion in general. I have known good Christians. I have rarely known good Christian "leadership". I haven't been to a church service in almost 20 years but that doesn't mean I don't speak to God on my own. Greed is an ugly thing.
It's honestly so scary and sad how many weird adults, including these 2 pastors and P. Diddy, absolutely latched on to Justin Bieber and tried to influence him at such a young age. I feel sad for him. I feel like so many people let him down at a very young age.
This video is 100% on point. I grew up in this church when Judah’s Dad was Sr pastor. Those were the days! Changed when Judah tasted that celebrity and his dad died. Was an intern for 2 years at what was called The City Church now called Churchome during the start of the LA Bible Study days. The things I’ve seen in this church. 😑
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Looks like Zachary jackeith is cosplaying as the pastor.
“If I had a nickel for every time Justin Bieber had a big-time pastor whose reputation was ruined by infidelity and promiscuity, I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice, right?”
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😂😂😂 I mean it is a lot when u break it down church pastor scandal affair those nickels worth alo 😂
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😂birds of a feather. They were good friends, I believe.
Never trust a "person of God" who lives in a house that costs more than you'll make in your lifetime.
Truly nothing wrong with being extremely affluent and a person of God. The main issue is pastors in general. Leaders of a tax free entity nowadays is no good
never trust a person of god full stop they never have evidence to support their assertions
@@emjayee a preacher should be christ like. Jesus didn't live a life of luxury.
@@leeashernolanthat’s doesn’t make sense. Jesus is the son of God. He already has a mansion in heaven. Jesus is God who owns the entire universe.
Pastors should not live waayyyyyy abovee their congregation especially if the only thing they do is that. If their lifestyle is being funded by the church it is wring .You should not be living like thar if you congregation are struggling@@emjayee
Having a VIP section in church is super gross
Since that pastor espouses the viewpoint that everyone is god’s favorite he should be ok with any member of his congregation sitting up there in that VIP section. I have a feeling he’s not though.
You should see heaven.
Instead, the pastor should encourage the celebrities to be humble and stress that everyone is equal under God.
One of the most endearing testimonies I've heard is what happened in NY's Times Square Church under leadership of the late David Wilkerson when a homeless leaned on a shoulder of an *army general* during a service.
This is because there's a line of paparazzi at thr door. I went there for a good while and it's kinda ridiculous what the paparazzi would do.i meet justin at a church event and he was talking to anyone that didn't wanted to just take a picture w him.
The VIP section should be for the homeless and down & out folks they should have ministered to and brought to church
All of the SA allegations backfiring on the women who where brave enough to report them is exactly why victims are afraid to come forward.
Heartbreaking 😔 so evil. I hope those women are watching videos like this and know how many people support them. I’m a Christian too and if you experience SA it is NOT your fault and I promise I hear and believe you. Please find a church where people are held accountable and it’s not just prosperity gospel. Of course God forgives all sin but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have consequences. So so sorry for women this has happened to you deserve so much better
You would think, seeing how greedy the church is, that they would figure out hiring someone with a known predator past would open them up to a lawsuit. I don't know why they're always so eager to defend these scum.
This. It sets everyone back. And this kind of thing is everywhere. Check out the allegations coming out of Liberty U.
@@zarasbazaarsome churches yes. Not all. Kind of weird to lump them all together when there’s over 350,000 denominations in the Christian church, some are bound to be corrupt . But this idea that the entire church is corrupt, simply isn’t true.
so true
"I never had sex... until I was married."
"You have no idea what guilt-free sex is like, it's amazing."
Interesting thing to say about sex and guilt for someone who wouldn't know about guilt and sex since he waited for marriage, right? 🤔
My first thought too You have no comparison point! Get me a sinner to make the comparison, but I think you've just discovered sex is fun lol
That part
Right!
Can't argue with your logic.
A Freudian slip 101😅😂😂
If only Justin could find a legitimate pastor who is in it for his soul, not for his clout.
He shouldn't be looking for pastors then
Pastors stick their hands in people's pockets - and elsewhere.
He should seek Jesus
I think Justin may need to develop his relationship with God alone before seeking a church…it’s so hard to heal from church trauma and there are so many preachers who seem to start out with true intentions but they begin to idolize money and their pride which always leads to a downfall.
He 'follows'. Basically, he's lost and need guidance. Real guidance.
I'd say he's easily influenced/impressed. I agree that he should seek spiritual guidance in solace.
You don’t get to be a mega-church pastor by being humble or ethical
This guy makes my skin crawl…
There is no way for a congregation to grow to such sizes, with such a rapid speed, without also having compromised with sin.
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this iswhat i’m tryna tell my parents who have been in a mega church back in africa for years now. the pastor wears designer, drives jets, has motorcades. its a cult.
@@LouisaWattWell said.
And I'd add to your original statement "or knowing Jesus and taking up your cross and following Him on the Narrow Path".
God told her, while on the toilet, to rescue celebrities. This is the funniest way to say target the rich as they have full pockets.
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Gives Holy Shit a new meaning
That's often what cults do ... prey on wealthy people and celebs. They are good for publicity, money, and power. Many of them are vulnerable due to their position as public figures, too.
You know, if I had an epiphany on the toilet, I would make something up.
@@KyleShiflet13666 Shit is NOT Holy. Don't be so disgusting. Have respect for someone's beliefs.
People love to hate on Justin Bieber, but all is see is a young adult who seems to be searching for deeper meaning in life…and the people he turns to just using him for clout. It makes me sad.
@christid.8912 Agreed. I feel sorry for anyone who got famous as a child.
It ain't dmt, it's a spell needing broke. Yellow brick road
@@notthegoodgirlAll so neglected. It's horrible. And yet people are so in awe and aspire to be them so bad. It's very messed up.
@@notthegoodgirlI wish you would make it clear that the “pastors” you make videos on provide teachings which are antithetical to living a Christian life. Mega “churches” are a stain on the world for both Christians and non-Christians alike.
Yeah, he sucks
The IRS needs to go after this church and churches like this.
We'd pay off the national debt in no time
Won't ever happen in our religious country
Not just churches like this, every religious group! They get away with so much because this country is too cowardly to do anything.
All churches are like this, I’ve seen even small churches take money from their congregations for their own benefit, sad reality which is important why churches need to be taxed 🤑 but in this country who knows if that will even happen 🤦🏻♀️
tax them. end of story.
Wasn’t Jesus very against such a mega church that would have a VIP section? They really should be taxed…
Yep. But they clearly haven't read the Book of James, which speaks on this very topic, or else they don't care.
Bingo! John 2:14-16
“ In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers sitting there. 15 And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. 16 And he told those who sold the pigeons, “Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade.”
Jesus would do the same here!
Also tithing can be anything besides cash. Produce and meals used to be more common form of tithing.
@@Humbleservant.9 but but....merch!
If I went in a church with a VIP section, I wouldn't go back.
It's so odd to me how many American pastors happily say they "have visions" or that "God spoke directly to them and told them to do X". If someone said something like that in my country their mental health and position in the church would be seriously questioned.
I went to a megachurch when I was younger
A pastor asked my mom to volunteer as an event coordinator for a church group, and she declined because she was a single mom working and going to university
During a service, the lead pastor of the church and another man suddenly approached my mom and started saying that God told them she would do great things as the event coordinator for the church group
My mom later confronted the lead pastor and said she felt that was manipulative, and he said he couldn't talk about it because he was fatigued from fasting for spiritual reasons
It's often a tool to manipulate members of the congregation into doing what the church leaders want
You obviously come from a sane society of flawed humans (as do I Australia and thensame would happenhere andnwe laigh at thr Yanks for this craziness - we dint live in a society of narcissistic sociopaths whom live and breathe Capitalist imperialism...the grandiosity of the creepy weirdo 🍘🧂 whom was bragging about bragging YIKES 😂🤷♂️
The same exact 💯 response would abd does happen in Australia- we see these people as deeply diseased by Capitalism
My parents sent me to boarding school when I was 12 because god spoke directly to them and told them to go to Africa and “save the world”. It’s the worst thing that ever happened to me or my family. And when I ask my parents HOW they could send a little girl away to be raised by strangers, they say “god told us to, so we knew he’d take care of you and everything was in his hands”. ALL Christians in Australia believe that god speaks directly to them and tells them what to do. ALL Christians believe they speak to god and god speaks to them. That is a fundamental element of Australian/American/British/and NZ Christianity.
@PaleMagnolia as an Australian born (ethnic) citizen and Atheist I can most definitely confirm this. Anglo Saxon Imperialists by their very nature are the most Fascistic and un-christ like people
It infuriates me when people act like God made their lives perfect, like they're special, as opposed to just being privileged or lucky. It's like "Well, God just didn't care about all those people living in poverty elsewhere."
Exactly. How you gonna be richer than Jesus himself? He lived a lowly. Humble life. GTFO.
It's literally the antithesis of everything Jesus talked about. These people are blasphemous in the name of God
@@Blackswanflymediado not mistaken poverty for humility
People financed his ministry even back then
Right! "Highly favored" is like another way of saying "Jesus loves me more than you naa naa"
The God they are talking about is not your god. They are talking about the fallen angel, but refer to "him" as god. They are referring to the "devil".
As a Christian, im so grateful you are bringing all these heretics to light! They say they speak for God they are horribly wrong!
Wolf in sheep's clothing
A celebrity section in a church? That's all you have to know to know that there's something fundamentaly wrong.
Amen!
Blessed are the poor in spirit (rich in wallet).
I'm not saying it's good but I can understand because Hollywood and paparazzi if it wasn't for anything else and just had it so paparazzi's couldn't get to the celebrities that it would be fine but because everything else alongside the section it's kind of trash
Chelsea admitting she had an epiphany while taking what must have been a truly magnificent dump is on a whole other level. Seriously, our family loves your documentaries - top quality in every respect - and you continue to raise the bar for others attempting to do the same!
😂😂😂magnificent dump!!… 😂😂😂
Lmfao. 😂 magnificent dump sending chills up her spine 😂
That’s where I had mine. So it’s believable.
The ppl conveniently forget that Jesus kicked over the money lenders and money makers stalls
in the church because it’s vulgar to do such a thing in church. Jesus wasn’t vain or Gucci’d down. Man oh man.
100000%
I saw the titleand thought "hasn't she done this story before?" The fact that this is the second church scandal Justin'sbeen involved with is INSANE
Every single small to mega sized church I went to as a child had a scandal. Even the Christian high school I attended had one. I am not surprised by this at all especially considering the amount of money involved. Organized religion is corrupt.
Me too and didn’t know there was a second go around with a church scandal!
Notice how Diddy and TD Jakes are in that circle too?
I thought the same thing!!
No church should have a roped off area for celebrities...not the message of faith and acceptance. I too love your work, you are very talented and I second the motion to get your videos on Netflix! :)
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If I were a celebrity, I would for sure want a section away from people. Do you know how annoying it would be if when you're trying to worship in peace, someone kept asking for a photo or an autograph? Most celebrities want a normal experience when they go out, but they can't have that unless they are away from crowds and paparazzi.
It makes perfect sense. There are plenty of people who would be distracted from the sermon if they were seated next to a celebrity.
@@detectivepenguin2000 Exactly!
Christian culture can be very disturbing.
Cultural Christianity is disturbing to real Christians. It perverts Jesus’ teaching
It's the people cosplaying Christianity that are the problem.
Also salvation deliverance and walking the straight and narrow path doesn't happen all at once.It takes time work,tears, temptations and questioning oneself.😊😊
emphasis on the CULT.
@@martylovellmusic. - In toxic Christian communities, there are probably cult-ish dynamics going on.
@@paulamugabi7320 - Salvation is lifelong. Not just conversion. Cosplaying. Good way of putting it. Or: LARPing? 🙃
Imagine you die and your son uses his business degree to yassify/modernize and flip ur hometown church to make big bank off celebs. ROLLING IN DA GRAVE 😩
Not to blame the victim, but this man completely dropped the ball on the spiritual growth of his own son. So I don't believe he could have been a very good pastor himself
Lol you think the father would have done differently given the opportunity? Apple doesn't fall far, etc.
The fact that they have a roped off section of the church JUST for rich people really does just encapsulate so much of modern American Christianity, doesn't it?
The thing that always gets me, as someone who grew up in a very, very Christian household, but never felt comfortable with organized religion in general, is just how much supposedly religious people will just...literally not READ the thing that they not only claim they live by, but also demand that EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH live by!
Luke 18:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to entire the kingdom of God"
We better keep appreciating this woman's work.. Pretty soon she's gonna be on Netflix.. Period.
Ready to hit play and get this ACCURATE information...
Thank you for the support! 🍿
Agreed. If I were solely judged on who I was in my 20’s…I’d be hopeless too (or worse). Justin, in my opinion, navigated the best way he could with the exploiting resources he had (unfortunately). I also believe Hailey has been good for him in all ways (stability, consistency, spiritually, emotionally, etc.).
@@imalittleeggroll I agree... Being so young and trying to navigate I do believe he does the best he can...
Honestly content @@notthegoodgirl brings is >>> most true crime Netflix/Max etc
Netflix would never allow such accuracy. Maybe Hulu though
the "more broken the better" doctrine that a lot of corrupt pastors teach is one of their manipulation tactics. When they teach that the more broken you are on the inside, the more god loves you, they're training you to accept and excuse abuse done to you. So when you come to them with how the abuse is affecting you, they can say that you need to follow god's will and allow him (aka your abusers) to break you. And if you can't take the abuse and want it to stop, they can guilt you with not being broken and humble enough for god's blessing. So they siphon your money, your body, your time, your hard work etc, all the while making you believe that their abuse is god's plan for you and your suffering is how god keeps you closer to him.
The concept of being blessed is so interesting because it's appealing. It gives people an excuse to make sense of why there's so much bad in the world while their lives are decent and okay. It's really wild to me that people think like that, especially people with the ability and influence to change the bad they see or at least combat it.
My cousin goes to one of these churches. She has had a very hard life--sexual abuse by father; mentally disturbed mother; found out her husband was cheating on her; divorce; death of young daughter; lives at just above poverty level . . . and she is SUPER religious; church twice a week and constant prayer and Bible reading. So I wonder how she feels when someone brags about how much God loves them because they have an easy life and great material possessions.
Hopefully the church she goes to has taught her money doesn’t equal being blessed.
@@timriehl1500 I wonder how much money she donates to that church...
So well said
Josie is dropping gem after gem for us these days! Excellent work as usual!
Expecting an employee to tithe during a financial hardship, while wearing designer clothes and have a roped off section for celebrities with their own private buffet damn near. Is fucking gross. They aren't there for god, they're in it for money & status. Plain & simple
These pastors give off big “How do you do fellow kids?” vibes. I don’t understand how anyone could take them seriously. And I’m someone who grew up with a pastor grandfather, went to church anytime it was open, and went to Christian school. No longer a part of the church, and haven’t been since I left high school.
Maybe it's the charisma in those types of Charismatic communities? Dynamic, emotional, passionate, confident communication style. Plus, a community built upon not questioning/disagreeing with the pastor. Cult of Personality.
( P.S. - Maybe find a mature, serious community to be a part of ....OR....start your own small group / fellowship at home or meet in a cafe. )
Honestly that vibe kinda creeps me out and would make me avoid that church at all means
Exactly. The cool guy hair and clothes are cartoonish. They look like creeps.
Mark my words, you'll be back in your thirties.
@@nickjohnson1178 Be back where? The church? I’m in my 40’s and still haven’t gone back.
Avoid pastors who insult their wives from the pulpit. Flee if the pastor whines about his sex life. Call in air support if they brag about their sin and use peer pressure to coerce the wife in the same few sentences.
Here here!
I had a friend I wanted to baptize me so I thought and he was so wicked to me I know we are all only humans but it wasn’t giving godly he cannot touch me he was telling us everything that 😢
Not demanding tithes from employee's while wearing head to toe designer 😮
I know right 🤔
Its gross. That tax free income 🤡😵💫
Masturbation is a matter of personal conviction, but tithing isn't? They want to change the story line about that, but not about tithing? Maybe because they rely on getting and spending other people's money?
They’ll also be selling a lot of vibrators and lube at their merch tables
That immidiatly shows me huge red flags, seems to be another scam church where the leaders are just collecting money for themselves. I wonder if this church is open about the pastors salary, wouldn't surprise me if they are not.
Follow Jesus not pastors .
Amen 🙏 ❤
Amen! 🙏🥹
Amen
NO do not follow fictitious characters who you turn into your role models. You cant gain insight from illusion. Exercise the damn common sense and ability to gain intellect that hundreds of millions of years of evolution has given you. You won a cosmic lottery. A whole bunch of events that led to this point in time. Those that follow this crap blindly still live in the past and whine about the future and fight against it. Grabbing to pull you into the water with them to float. Science leads to discovery, to cure, to growth. This shit leads to crawling back into caves afraid of the unknown, but thinking that everything was created so you could wipe your ass with it. There is NO Jesus. SORRY !!! Also no Superman, Batman, Thor, Catain America.......................You shouldnt live yoiur life wrapped up in illusion and fantasy. Religion is an anchor. Believing in Superman or not believing in Superman is not going to change facts, science, math, numbers, history or wisdom. LOLOLOL It'll waste away your potential though. God doesnt cure disease. People do. God doesnt feed people. People does, nature does, science does. God doesnt handpick who dies in a storm, a war, there are no favorites. God doesnt watch out for one kid hiding under a desk and let another kid die, you sickos. Enough already.
Fight this hypocrisy! Don't shame people who trusted the leaders of their faith when they have been repeatedly lied to. I know that was not your intention, but your comment is unhelpful.
I grew up in WA state and attended conferences at Judah Smith’s church yearly - they were called “the generation conference”. They kept us up late - lots of messages full of hate for the lgbtq community, emotionally draining alter calls where they would pray over you until you broke into tears. Carl Lentz spoke there almost every time. At 15 I was accused of being involved in witchcraft and prayed over despite my insistence that I had never dabbled in it. Those memories are traumatizing and the a huge reason why I will never set foot in a church again.
Wow. Thanks for sharing, that’s insane. Pastor TD Jake’s is on the board. Like yeah. This is scary!
Absolutely. I just started reopening these wounds to heal from them as I’m pregnant with my first child and want to be the best I can be for him. I just sort of went from church being my whole life because of the Pentecostal cult like community I grew up in to going to a public college - first time in public school and seeing the world for how it actually is. Quickly I fell into habits to numb out and forget and that was alright for my 20s but I’m now 33 and still have not addressed the religious abuse I endured growing up. And that’s what it is - religious abuse. Gaslighting you into believing you are nothing without god. Just a lowly worm who fornicates and in my case apparently dabbled in witchcraft. (Which I did later on just to see what the hype was about - my own little rebellion) I am so happy to see people speaking out about these mega churches finally. It’s been a very isolating experience and I’ve spent a lot of time wondering if it was as bad as I remember but it was. It really was. I saw TD Jakes speak at Generation Conference a couple of times. They really rolled out the red carpet for him so to speak. Judah and Lentz also talked about their sex lives with their wives A LOT. Like they damned us for having any sort of sexual relation before marriage but then bragged on and on about how banging their wives were and how much fun sex with them was.
It was a trip man.
I went to City Church and generation church too. I found Jesus again, and not through the church.
Ir is beyond me how people can take these pastors seriously.
Kind of like how do these or those people take DJT seriously.
Sometimes, you hear what you want to hear.
@@montanawalsh8155 You put on a good enough show, people will pay to see it.
8:25 He's not really saying anything. It's so annoying. I was raised Christian...what is this teaching. He's just taking folks in circles. ugh
It sounded like Calvinism with basketball trash talking.
Agreed. Selective “translating” of the Bible to suit one’s point, recommending that people be boastful, wearing strange & expensive designer clothing, etc., etc., etc.: absolutely antithetical to every basic teaching of Jesus. Just so sad that people who genuinely want to be kind, ethical people are swayed by these cultic tactics.
@@KP-nf4ylnot just antithetical: Antichrist
The Dahmer visual comparison is SPOT ON.... YIKES! 👀👀😳😳
I thought he looked like The Riddler from The Batman. 😬
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Oh no, not Justin’s other damn pastor acting a fool too!! Fix it Jesus!!! These pastors have lost their minds. 🤦🏾♀️
A church that requires NDA's--hmmmmm
"One day Chelsea had an epiphany while sitting on the toilet".
Judah Smith is Carl Lentz 2.0
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Seriously...
Psychopaths
Yep
Yeah, pretty much!!
Never heard of Judah. He kinda scars me. There’s something so off about him 😳 perhaps, that uncanny valley vibes??
I find it so weird (and icky) when pastors want to be famous or align themselves with celebrities. I wouldn’t trust them with my neighbor’s pet rock! I’m certainly not about to trust them with my soul 🫠
Only two years later, the pastor was wearing his grandma's sweater.
Money can buy Gucci, but it can't buy good taste.
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
Boy oh boy you put together some serious research.
Love your hard work.
I grew up in the 80’s when evangelical church shows were all over the tv on Sundays. I knew people who had no money, but would give money to these people. I think every one of them ended in scandal. This video is giving me flashbacks and not in a good way!! 😮
Thank you for another great video!
I may be an atheist, but doesn't your Jesus have some harsh words for rich people? "Give all you have to the poor and follow me" - how hard is that to understand. "Give a tenth of your income so rich pastors can buy designer clothes" - where is that in the bible?
You’re right but these aren’t real and devout followers of Christ.
God doesn't have anything against rich people. Putting money before God is what God doesn't like because it leads to idolatry therefore breaking His commandments.
Like that verse you wrote, if God gives you the option like he did to that young ruler, to either follow him or money and we chose money, the we obviously love money more than God. It was a test to reveal the truth on that person's heart, and he failed.
"God doesn't have anything against rich people." What about the parable of the camel and the needle pin? Wasn't it said because the rich dude refused to give up on his riches even if he wanted to follow Jesus?
@@jaromudesigns2636how do you know what God likes or doesn't like?
@@ElaAusDemTal he's graceful enough to let us know what he likes and doesnt through his word.
I discovered this channel maybe 2 weeks ago and have been binge watching ever since. Top quality for sure.
Call me bitter, but I do not buy one bit that Justin was just trying to find his way by engaging with these people. Throughout all of this, he disrespected his young fans, mistreated Selena Gomez, bullied Taylor Swift, and belittled his wife (that's still ongoing). Like most hateful religious people, he goes to church so he can tell himself he's a good person. I don't feel sorry for him.
His mother sold him into the industry and let grown men r*pe him....what exactly are you expecting?
Yeah, Justi was just trying to save his image.
I went to churchome once.... it felt fake, weird, and money-hungry (plus everyone there is just trying to find a wife 🙄). Glad I left without giving them a cent
SAME. I went to a university like 20 minutes from the original Seattle location and went maybe twice during my time at university, but I felt like I didn't fit in at all. It felt clique-y and I'm so glad I never went back. Left my faith behind entirely after university.
@@miranda.currier Same! Welcome to the deconstruction club 🙌
Lol what ?
@@miranda.currierWhy leave your faith behind ? God loves you and he wants you back.
The "trying to find a wife" part is healthy.
There are no single Christian men aged 28-65 in any church near me.
I want a masculine man and I've never met one in a church, and now there just aren't any single men at all.
Where are the divorced dads?
I'm one of only three single women in my huge Baptist church in Melbourne -- one had an ab_sive marriage and is off men forever, one suffers from depression, and there's me.
Married people don't want to have anything to do with you once they're married and you're not. Walking on the Narrow Path is a lonely road to walk.
So Justin’s mom reached out to not one but two of these “pastors”? How bizarre.
More bizarre than leaving him with Diddy for two days?
@@RepentImmediatelyJustin’s “mom” should have been jailed for child endangerment. A real sicko.
I consider myself a Christian but, never once have I thought that God was “speaking” to me. These claims always puzzle me and put me on the defensive.
God speaks to those with ears to hear. I'm not saying what this man claims is right but those who spend time in contemplation, prayer, meditation, ritual/ceremony, or mystic practice learn how to listen to God and he is speaking at all times. The point of a developed spiritual practice is calming the ego to a point that it doesn't obfuscate his will. Often times the only way to describe the "messages" one gets is through listening or seeing. It is not a physical thing or a hallucination, it's revealed, subtle, and dependent on the receptivity of the individual.
Beautifully put.
Maybe you aren’t listening.
If the Holy Spirit isn't speaking to you, you need to purify your life and vessel.
Look at how these male church grifter try to emulate Justin Beibers clothing style. It is so clear how they do it to bond with him.
They look ridiculous. So stupid.
When is our govt gonna start taxing these Mega churches or at least force them to give more to the community
35:30 If anyone ever discourages someone from calling the police, they enable the problem. These churches make me sick. 🤢
Girl you are like my first cup of coffee in the morning. I almost cry when it’s over.
Justin Bieber isnt a victim. None of these celebs are. You dont have to go to a super fancy mega church. You can go to any church. You can serve God anywhere. Buddy likely likes the VIP treatment. And likes being around other mega rich people. And I don’t want to pass judgment on him. That life is likely all he knows. He’s been famous since he was a child. But he could absolutely find somewhere else to go.
The thought of my abuser claiming that I SA’ed him is vomit inducing. These people are sinister.
the way they played in those victims' faces, especially the nanny, was diabolical.
It's weird how Justin Bieber's mother found these two guys. I'd say it's borderlining on parental abuse to put him through churches like this but I'm in no position to dictate that.
She also forced Justin into Diddy’s demonic circles. There is something seriously wrong with that woman.
I'm often thankful for the way I was raised, specifically with the idea that your live your faith and your beliefs every day, and no amount of special names, places, titles, or grand displays can actually take the place of how you conduct yourself in life. If you're a Christian, that's wonderful, and as long as you live out the teachings of God and Jesus in your everyday life, then you're doing your faith proud (again, how I was raised. I understand many others will disagree with that sentiment). But I'm happy to have it when I see these kinds of churches and especially mega churches profiting off of their loyal followers and abusing that trust and faith given to them by their flock. It feels unbecoming of someone claiming to be faithful to the teaching of the Bible. Don't preach one thing and then do the opposite behind closed doors. And if you can't live what you're preaching, then you should go find yourself another belief system, because faith doesn't bend to your whims; you're supposed to be the one that compromises your behavior to live faithfully.
Amen and so beautifully stated. We must have been raised with the same values and teachings. Just be who you claim to be everywhere you go and to everyone you encounter. We are all equal humans and we should treat each other with grace and love, no human being should be put on a pedestal, we all are sinners, people will always fall short. But we still should all do our very best to be loving and play nice.
I’ve danced with Judah before. He came to Sydney for Presence conference one time and I was apart of the youth team.
I was a minor at the time and I remember he grabbed my hands during worship and pulled me close. I was too star struck to do anything haha!
But now thinking back on it, it was really weird
A roped off VIP section IN A CHURCH?! 🤦🏾♀️ Jesus is weeping, y'all!
Hold on 1 second!!! A pastor who is greedy? No way, they almost all seem like upstanding citizens!!!
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His name is LITERALLY Judah..........like Judas.................
@@henrymars6626hopefully your joking? Or just haven’t read the Bible. But Judah is not similar to Judas…. Judah was a tribe of Isreal.
Though I don’t like Judah here in this video, it’s comments like this that start bad information.
Ahhhhh so excited when your videos come out!!! 👏👏👏
I’m a Christian but go off of very biblical sermons not pastors just saying what pops in their head.
Church home logo looks like a discount furniture store logo
Justin is so deceived. It’s so sad he is manipulated by people to this degree.
This is the second time we've seen Justin beiber in one of these jesus christ . It's weird it's like he's a magnet for mega corrupt pastors
For a moment I was confused, thinking that I've already seen this episode, until Bee mentioned Hillsong 😵💫
His mom set him up and groomed him for this
He must like the VIP treatment
His soul is somehow still innocent they want it
@@merricat3025 has to be
This is insane. I hope this video gets a million views
Just shouted out loud in front of my family “a new video has dropped, my day is made!” 😂🙌🏾
@tayc1312 Hope you enjoy!
Cringe
Why the heck are the ppl so obsessed with hiring Braylen??? Does he have some dirt on them or what?
That's what I'm speculating as well.
My life isn't flawless either but boy, am I grateful to be a zillion miles away from these megachurch and self-made pastor worlds. Thanks for another splendid video, NTGG team!
Your transition in the beginning is flawless! You are so good.
29:13 why do people in general not understand that with an NDA you can disclose anything that happened that was against the law??????
You can disclose anything you want to after signing an NDA. You can also get sued to death for doing so. The only protection they have is if the disclosure is to the police.
It’s so sad that JB was brought into and around all these scammy people by his own mother initially.
I feel like his mom was just looking for Godly men to help her help her son. I’m sure she has been disappointed by those two men as well. But, it does look like they have had a positive influence on JB initially, hopefully with his own maturity he can learn from the mistakes he has had on his own as well the mistakes he has witnessed from these older men who he looked up to. Prayers for all of them to get back to the teachings of Jesus, and seek forgiveness, and focus on their families. Non of them should be in any type of biblical leadership of others, they have lost that role morally. But Jesus will always forgive them if they truly ask and repent. Thank you Jesus!
Sadly, people say it helped him some but he looks more miserable now than ever!
@@WinkyWondershe should have focused on becoming a godly woman so that she could recognize actual godly men.
Yay! A new documentary! Thank you!
@WinkyWonder thank you for watching!
You need to do the Richmond Outreach Center (the ROC) you may not have heard of it if you aren’t from CA, TX, or VA but that story is WILD! I grew up in the church. I was a pastors kid there at one point since they had multiple pastors. I’d love to hear the story from an outside pov!
@neeceekittrell Thanks for the recommendation. 💜
Yess!!!! There's another one up here in the northern piedmont,too. Though not roc
@@notthegoodgirl
I second (third?) this recommendation! Many thanks always for the great content😊
I used to see this guy on TV when I lived in Seattle. He had the "cool guy" super styled hair and I knew he was bad news.
Also: Imagine tithing 10% of your wages to a church(10% that could be going to your kids college fund or your future retirement) and the head of that church is buying Gucci with it. Gross.
The fact that youtube channels have to say "He R-worded her" has become so tiring. And it's ridiculous.
Much as I love NTGG...no youtuber HAS to say it. She even says "forced himself on her" seconds later, which is a time-honored and not goofy euphemism.
I agree, it is absolutely ridiculous.
When I see the word unaliving I want to rip my hair out 😂😂😂😂
It's to avoid being censored.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! I truly appreciate your support. 💛🥰💜
These kind of churches seem to be entirely run and operated by monsters who prey on victims.
Your documentaries are top notch! ❤️👍
Judah would probably get further in his grifting if he didnt dress like he was about to say “how do you do, fellow kids?” at all times.
This channel always has me clicking out of whatever else I was watching as soon as I see a new upload 😍 love the insight on this one, there’s so much about them that I never knew
Everything about this story is why you will NEVER see me in the church again. Its a den of evilness and greed filled with predatorial behavior lack of accountability narcissistic and psychopathic behavior
I concur 🙋♀️
Not all are like this. Christ's true church is still out there. Sadly it's getting harder and harder to find them in this country. But they are there. And the emphasis is on the work of Christ concerning salvation and sanctification. Not building bigger buildings, getting rich and rubbing shoulders with celebrities.
Right the only thing they seemed to do was rewarding, predatory, narcissistic psychopaths.
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I recently walked away from Christianity and I am glad I did. I know not all churches are bad but this faith or religion has become so twisted. I simply cannot be a part of it anymore. People twist so much I just didn’t know what to believe anymore. I felt ashamed a lot of my urges and desires, I felt ashamed that I couldn’t afford to give 10%+ of my paycheck for sacrificial giving (you had tithing, offerings, plus pastors would ask for special giving for whatever else). I couldn’t stand being a part of a faith that claims to be of love yet spread so much hate. I couldn’t stand the hate towards the LGBTQ+ community, I couldn’t stand the shaming of people and their most basic human desires, I couldn’t stand feeling like I didn’t get something I prayed so hard for, for years, because I did something wrong. My experience was not, I prayed for it and I got it, like pastor Judah claims. I prayed for years, was a “good Christian girl” for years and still, nothing. A lot of things went unanswered, I felt miserable, and it got to a point where being in church didn’t feel real anymore. I felt like I was faking so much. The more I hear, the less I like, the more vindicated I feel about my decision to walk away. And I have never, ever liked mega churches, nor have I ever been a member of one.
That $18 million / year doesn;t just buy Gucci shoes. It's also given to politicians who create laws promoting the "traditional family" and anti-lgbtq. There's no reason why they're tax free.
I think the tax exempt law for churches should change. At the very least, any church making over a certain amount should be taxed. They should also be required to use a certain percentage of tithes on local charitable organizations.
Considering most celebs are masquerading as the opposite sex, and the fact that TD Jakes is on the board, I doubt they are anti LGBT
Most celebs are masquerading as the opposite sex? Uh oh, are you one of those transvestigators?
No taxation without representation also it could be like the government is endorsing a religious organization this could get ugly if they was taxed because then they are going to want to be represented politically for there taxes and no one truly wants the church in politics
As a Christian who loves your videos, I find these videos helpful. It helps me understand how the world sees my faith and mistrusts it because there are wolves in sheep’s clothing using faith to do wrong. I pray that in the future the amount of selfish evil pastors grow fewer and further.
Bragging and boasting is the complete opposite of humility
These people should be in jail for what they did!!! Damn! That is one messed up "church"
This looks no different than $cientology, to me.
🤔 It does resemble Scientology closer than anything promoted in the book that says, "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." and "Flee sexual immorality." and "Show no favouritism. If you tell the rich person sit here and tell the poor person stand there or sit at my feet, have you not become judges with evil thoughts?"
a VIP section just like God intended 🙏😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m sure God is 😳❌😳❌😳❌
@@WinkyWonder God is like 🤡🤡💀
Not the TD Jakes P Diddy picture 😂😂😂
“In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers sitting there. 15 And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. 16 And he told those who sold the pigeons, “Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade.”
John 2:14-16
Jesus would be doing the same at these blasphemous & money hungry places.
But you see, those old-timey traders weren't "chosen ones". So they needed to be kicked out. These modern pastors had visions one stormy night in which God told them they're chosen and that He wanted them to be filthy rich. That's the explanation. But that's not the bizarre part. It's their followers happily accepting such explanations.
Crap like this is part of why I can't stand organized religion in general. I have known good Christians. I have rarely known good Christian "leadership". I haven't been to a church service in almost 20 years but that doesn't mean I don't speak to God on my own. Greed is an ugly thing.
Can't serve the Lord and mammon at the same time.
A separate church for celebrities and a VIP section in church!
Totally goes AGAINST scripture.
Under rated UA-camr right here
Masturbation is a sin. This pastor needs to sit down. IMMEDIATELY. 🤦🏽♀️ Tattoos are a sin. 🤦🏽♀️ why do these two MEN have matching tattoos.
Super creepy.
When I got the notification I was like um she already posted this then I did a double take and was like oh shit let me sit my ass Down
East Coast vs West Coast of (religious) abuse and corruption!
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It's honestly so scary and sad how many weird adults, including these 2 pastors and P. Diddy, absolutely latched on to Justin Bieber and tried to influence him at such a young age. I feel sad for him. I feel like so many people let him down at a very young age.
This video is 100% on point. I grew up in this church when Judah’s Dad was Sr pastor. Those were the days! Changed when Judah tasted that celebrity and his dad died. Was an intern for 2 years at what was called The City Church now called Churchome during the start of the LA Bible Study days. The things I’ve seen in this church. 😑
Do tell!