Pastor in Nigeria is nothing but self appointees. In Nigeria, anybody can wake up and declare himself Evangelist, Pastors, Prophet, Prophetess. Oba Ghandi laoye is Oba period. I met this man many times in Orange New Jersey. I don't see anything that special about his been a Pastors. Pastors in Nigeria is means survival in US also the same.
When the righteous is on the throne, the people rejoice...in my community at Akwa Ibom, it's goes round from family to family and the next family it got to, the eldest is a Reverend Father and the man said look, I can't leave my right to my younger brother, He must take the kingship
Yes Mr Atiba Adewale 8341; Isese is so compulsory in any Yorubas Cultural/Traditional ruling, eg. Either for kingship or any other traditional title, any celebration or establishment & the likes in Yoruba's land is interwoven with Isese, there's always strong connections between Isese/Abaleye with Yoruba's philosophy or way of life, u cannot separate one from another. Meanwhile' some of these aliens lifestyle, religion or influential are continously becoming a norm, the alarming rate is getting worse inside Yoruba's territorial land within Nigeria; We Yorubas are not just losing our very core traditional/cultural values or identity b4 GOD OLODUMARE & b4 Man, but we're losing them to other fellows Africans, as well replacing them with the foreign system & the World at large. Moreover', all these are happening even more nowadays just bcos many of us had totally lost our true self bcos of brainwashed systems, thru self-hate, inferiority complex or low esteem, we've been misinformed, & been mislead to be copying other that are not & will never be in tune with those things that're not part of our nature as Yoruba's people. We Yorubas single handedly by ourselves misinterpreting our own Cultural/Traditional beliefs systems, we repeatedly by ourselves showing other how to treat us badly even with disrespect, either in any aspect area of the physicality or of the spirituality, regional or ethnicity, even in the National political affairs or in our Nation military affairs. I'm pretty sure that many of our Yorubas people nowadays don't even know the meaning of Isese, let alone on how crucially Isese is kin & how rooted in connection to so many things concerning all Yoruba's people in Yoruba's land.
Why Christians and Muslim like to take over traditional leadership?why don't Christianity and Islam creates their own kingship?why take the traditional once?
The word tradition does not translate to a particular group of people worshipping other deities different from Allahu (God) . It's encompasses the way of life and practice of a group or community. So, be he christian or Muslim. We all have the right to the obaship stool.
@@akinbanijamiu7860 your bible says separate from them but you want to become an oba in a traditional system, will the pastor practice the traditional rites?
@@pimohebenezer Yoruba Christian and Muslim had already polluted themselves with colonial Christianity and Arab Islam, they've the right to worship what they want but don't force it on other Yoruba that's the point we're making, Christianity and Islam disrespect Africa traditions and hated the Yoruba local religion and call it evil but want to become king over the traditionalist.
If Christians and Moslems create their own traditional kingdoms nobody will disturb them and can go to church and pray and name of Jesus but don't take a kingship which 2as build by an African spirituality to give to Moslems and Christians which later they turn the kingdom to Islamic or Christianity,I happens all over Nigeria and it's the reason Why Jos city still having conflicts.
A police man if I no chop bribe how I go chop no follow here o. Taking bribe is not same as going to court due to a grievance perceived thereby creating job for lawyers. Don't uphold corruption
People don't understand The thrones/Crown is a position and has nothing to do with a person .. religion irrespective . Check Bible very well some Kings worship idols and while some worship idol at the end God is the one that gives power
Traditional kingdoms has nothing to do with any colonial GOD,and nobody stop them from creating their own type of christian and Islamic kingdom but don't take the traditional once because they're not build on Islam and Christianity .
Why should a pastor desecrated the traditions of a community?the stools was not build on Christianity and Islam,let a traditionalist be crown 👑and perform the traditional rites of the people. Christianity is not our culture, this guy will disrespect the traditional system and change it to Christianity.
You called it traditional. Leadership is leadership irrespective of your religion. What is required is that you lead with the fear of your creator. And now that all the so called traditional rulers are under the authority of the local government by Nigeria's constitution.
@@akinbanijamiu7860 why Christians and Islam don't want to create their own kingdom?why they want to take over traditional kingdoms and change them to worship of white Jesus and Arab Mohammed?
The position is about leadership and not about traditionalism. Choose the qualified one to lead not mediocre, we are in a civilized era where the politicians have subjugated the traditional kings, this called for the king to be choosing based on leadership and management skills with connection that's what can benefit any town or city.
We christains in the place of influence.
God will use him , to bring good to his people , ijn
Pastor in Nigeria is nothing but self appointees. In Nigeria, anybody can wake up and declare himself Evangelist, Pastors, Prophet, Prophetess. Oba Ghandi laoye is Oba period. I met this man many times in Orange New Jersey. I don't see anything that special about his been a Pastors. Pastors in Nigeria is means survival in US also the same.
This is a good Discuss 🥰🥰
When the righteous is on the throne, the people rejoice...in my community at Akwa Ibom, it's goes round from family to family and the next family it got to, the eldest is a Reverend Father and the man said look, I can't leave my right to my younger brother, He must take the kingship
Oba Olaoye Ghandi is a pastor in Washington DC United state even has his own church under redeem been a king is his own choice
Is good o, but remember what oluwo did, but they have forgoten that this new sohun can also said he is not going to do isese.
Is isese compulsory?
Any person can create their own traditional king,why they want to take the local once and turn it to Islamic and Christianity in kingdoms?
Yes Mr Atiba Adewale 8341; Isese is so compulsory in any Yorubas Cultural/Traditional ruling, eg. Either for kingship or any other traditional title, any celebration or establishment & the likes in Yoruba's land is interwoven with Isese, there's always strong connections between Isese/Abaleye with Yoruba's philosophy or way of life, u cannot separate one from another.
Meanwhile' some of these aliens lifestyle, religion or influential are continously becoming a norm, the alarming rate is getting worse inside Yoruba's territorial land within Nigeria; We Yorubas are not just losing our very core traditional/cultural values or identity b4 GOD OLODUMARE & b4 Man, but we're losing them to other fellows Africans, as well replacing them with the foreign system & the World at large.
Moreover', all these are happening even more nowadays just bcos many of us had totally lost our true self bcos of brainwashed systems, thru self-hate, inferiority complex or low esteem, we've been misinformed, & been mislead to be copying other that are not & will never be in tune with those things that're not part of our nature as Yoruba's people.
We Yorubas single handedly by ourselves misinterpreting our own Cultural/Traditional beliefs systems, we repeatedly by ourselves showing other how to treat us badly even with disrespect, either in any aspect area of the physicality or of the spirituality, regional or ethnicity, even in the National political affairs or in our Nation military affairs.
I'm pretty sure that many of our Yorubas people nowadays don't even know the meaning of Isese, let alone on how crucially Isese is kin & how rooted in connection to so many things concerning all Yoruba's people in Yoruba's land.
Why Christians and Muslim like to take over traditional leadership?why don't Christianity and Islam creates their own kingship?why take the traditional once?
Does Yoruba land belong to your deities, is the christians and Muslims not Yoruba sons.
The word tradition does not translate to a particular group of people worshipping other deities different from Allahu (God) .
It's encompasses the way of life and practice of a group or community.
So, be he christian or Muslim.
We all have the right to the obaship stool.
@@akinbanijamiu7860 thank you brother me. Tell am.
@@akinbanijamiu7860 your bible says separate from them but you want to become an oba in a traditional system, will the pastor practice the traditional rites?
@@pimohebenezer Yoruba Christian and Muslim had already polluted themselves with colonial Christianity and Arab Islam, they've the right to worship what they want but don't force it on other Yoruba that's the point we're making, Christianity and Islam disrespect Africa traditions and hated the Yoruba local religion and call it evil but want to become king over the traditionalist.
Your opinion should be the forced on others. A christain king should take the people to worship christ and crown himself with prayers in Christ
If Christians and Moslems create their own traditional kingdoms nobody will disturb them and can go to church and pray and name of Jesus but don't take a kingship which 2as build by an African spirituality to give to Moslems and Christians which later they turn the kingdom to Islamic or Christianity,I happens all over Nigeria and it's the reason Why Jos city still having conflicts.
A police man if I no chop bribe how I go chop no follow here o. Taking bribe is not same as going to court due to a grievance perceived thereby creating job for lawyers.
Don't uphold corruption
People don't understand The thrones/Crown is a position and has nothing to do with a person .. religion irrespective . Check Bible very well some Kings worship idols and while some worship idol at the end God is the one that gives power
Traditional kingdoms has nothing to do with any colonial GOD,and nobody stop them from creating their own type of christian and Islamic kingdom but don't take the traditional once because they're not build on Islam and Christianity .
Why should a pastor desecrated the traditions of a community?the stools was not build on Christianity and Islam,let a traditionalist be crown 👑and perform the traditional rites of the people.
Christianity is not our culture, this guy will disrespect the traditional system and change it to Christianity.
You called it traditional.
Leadership is leadership irrespective of your religion.
What is required is that you lead with the fear of your creator. And now that all the so called traditional rulers are under the authority of the local government by Nigeria's constitution.
@@akinbanijamiu7860 why Christians and Islam don't want to create their own kingdom?why they want to take over traditional kingdoms and change them to worship of white Jesus and Arab Mohammed?
The position is about leadership and not about traditionalism. Choose the qualified one to lead not mediocre, we are in a civilized era where the politicians have subjugated the traditional kings, this called for the king to be choosing based on leadership and management skills with connection that's what can benefit any town or city.
@@solomonaliyu574 why don't they creates their own system to elect the so call professional?why must they take the traditional kingdoms?