The M71 stove can be refilled with alcohol many times. The chemical that causes the alk to gell does not burn. You can refill the can with Heet (yellow bottle) or denatured alk (aka meths) and by the next day it will have gelled again. I get 10 burns out of a full can. A burn is 16 oz of water to a full boil. Each burn takes about 10 minutes. The stove needs a windscreen to work best. MerlinCH is correct about how to open the can. The flame is a little bit more smoky than plain alk. I like that because it coats the bottom of my pots with a thin black carbon coating that makes the water boil 20% faster. Wipe off any soot but leave the black part that is "cooked on". Soon you will have a uniform, thin, shiny, black carbon coating on the pot.
Just a tip to use the M71 stove: when you open the aluminium foil, don't cut it out. It is better to make three cuts in it, crossing in their middle, in a star form, then to lift the six parts: they will help protect the flame from the wind. After use and cooling of the stove, one can replace the triangles flat and close the lid, ready for next use. It is possible to refuel these stoves with jelly alcohol. Only one precaution: to extinguish the stove, just do as Luke did, and never let the lid on the stove before it has cooled down, as the heat would destroy the gasket. Provided one follows these simple rules, the stove can last for quite a while :-) And just for curiosity: have a look on the lid. There is something written here: www.keepshooting.com/swiss-m71-stove-4-pack.html it reads: SIPURO-75-11, which says the maker is the Sipuro Co (chemical and household products), and the date this one was made: November 1975. Luke's one is dated October 1975 (at 5:54). Check yours :-)
With Sterno cans I found a paint can key or opener (the one with the curled tip) is great for opening Sterno cans without damaging the lid. You can find them where paint is sold. Sometimes they are free. GOD Bless you and your families
You can find Sterno at the 99 cent store. Considering the price of the Swiss M71 I think I will keep using Sterno. Thanks for the comparison though. Keep it up you seem to touch on ideas that are very practical.
The only downside with those M71s is finding ones that haven't dried out. I bought two 4-packs of them and half of them were empty/dried out. But it was ok...I had an instant alcohol stove. Just added some rolled woodstove door gasket in there, added alcohol, and was good to go! Love the stove stands too. Thanks for the video!
You can refill the m71 with denatured alcohol: as long as there's still gum left in the bottom of the stove, the new fuel will gel up within an hour. Best stove ever.
I WOULD like to see a meal prepared with the M71. You know, something like breakfast eggs and whatever, a soup or such. Sometimes a meal in the woods is great fun. Thanks.
Hi Luke... Always a good feeling to see you. I LOVE these test's... Very cool. (Very smart... Thumbs up if you like coffee !) lol. I hope you and the beautiful Susan have a fantastic day... Be safe bud... Peace.
I searched a few websites trying to find it for $4.50 (Amazon has cheapest price but it's still $10 with shipping). On one of the survivalist gear websites, they claim it has a 2 hour burn time in the product description but can be refilled with any type of gel/alcohol/bio fuel. Keepshooting dot com has a 4-pack for $17.95 plus whatever shipping is to your address. Here's a link for the 4-pack www.keepshooting.com/swiss-m71-stove-4-pack.html EDIT: I'm ref the M71 stove above and not the Sterno
I got the same. But I found this: www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/outdoor-camping-gear/stoves-accessories/swiss-m71-stove.html They're $5.00 from this online surplus store.
Very cool, I don't know much about those stoves but I kinda like what I saw here. How many burns do you get from one can of that stuff? Thanks for sharing
M71 vs Sterno ... Agree, how long does each one burn? The M71 boils water faster, but if you only get 2 burns out of it, and Sterno gets 20 burns ..... then Sterno is the way to go. When out camping & hunting I'm not in that big of a hurry to boil water so an extra 2 or 3 minutes isn't a deal breaker if I'm getting more burns with Sterno.
Interesting comparison. I was at a Dollar Tree store a few weeks ago and noticed they had alcohol burners for buffet table hot plates for $1 each. I was going to pick one up to try out but got distracted by a pretty lady and forgot about it. lol Might be worth checking out if you have a Dollar Tree near you. Thanks for the video. I like the idea of the versus episodes.
So, just out of curiosity, which one of those stoves left more residue on the pot? I noticed that there was a little residue after using the M71. Did the Sterno leave any residue? Which stove was easier to clean up from the pot perspective?
Perhaps another interesting idea would be tor refill the M71 can to the same level that it was filled at with Sterno and do a retest. Or conversely take the top off of the Sterno can (which would mean that you would need a different potstand) and do a retest.
I thought Sterno's were made to keep food warm at buffets, not cook/boil. If they cooked too hot and fast they wouldn't be good for their intended purpose.
HI I have a LIXADA Wood Stove (similar to the silverfire scout & i an thinking of getting a ZEBRA Head 14cm Camping Pot to go with it as a cook set. Can anyone tell me if the LIXADA stove will fit inside a ZEBRA with the lid locked closed if the middle pan is removed
Just about anywhere brother; amazon has a bunch, eBay does too. Make sure to check the stats on whatever you are considering, some can be rather heavy. - Luke
Hi GERMANY... This is Gettysburg PA... lol Many towns in Pennsylvania USA are named after German Towns. I live not far from Hanover PA. .East Berlin, PA.. Abbottstown PA. and many more. I am of German Descent myself. I have always wanted to come to Germany and visit... But the world has changed so much in the past 15 years... I think the World is in a struggle between light & Dark. I think the Light will win. I hope that you are well and that God will shine a light for you. Peace, be safe Cousin...
The sterno and alcohol should have burned about the same. I would place the time difference on the stove design. Also sterno makes a cook can smaller, about the size of the M71. I would be curious to know if the results of both fuels, with the same stove top produce different results than todays... (I will say though, that sterno is made for warming, not cooking, So that may be the difference in the fuels. But still curious.)
Well Sterno burns cooler. So if you want to simmer a soup or wild mushrooms or whatever and want a slower cooler burn, then Sterno is the one. Faster isn't always better.
Of course, the Swiss product won because the Swiss make the best stuff on the planet. I used to think the German stuff was best, but the Swiss beats all. (and you get the pot stand)
Can not compare cooking fuel efficiency to chaffing fuel. It would be like saying there are literally a billion types of Sterno, when there's only one! 🤔. But lets not get into the weeds 🙄🙄
Hey Luke, im a guy from Denmark, and i would like to ask some political questions, but i know that you try to not include politics in your channel. Let me know if you could answer some questions from a foreigner
The M71 stove can be refilled with alcohol many times. The chemical that causes the alk to gell does not burn. You can refill the can with Heet (yellow bottle) or denatured alk (aka meths) and by the next day it will have gelled again.
I get 10 burns out of a full can. A burn is 16 oz of water to a full boil. Each burn takes about 10 minutes. The stove needs a windscreen to work best.
MerlinCH is correct about how to open the can.
The flame is a little bit more smoky than plain alk. I like that because it coats the bottom of my pots with a thin black carbon coating that makes the water boil 20% faster. Wipe off any soot but leave the black part that is "cooked on". Soon you will have a uniform, thin, shiny, black carbon coating on the pot.
Just a tip to use the M71 stove: when you open the aluminium foil, don't cut it out. It is better to make three cuts in it, crossing in their middle, in a star form, then to lift the six parts: they will help protect the flame from the wind. After use and cooling of the stove, one can replace the triangles flat and close the lid, ready for next use. It is possible to refuel these stoves with jelly alcohol.
Only one precaution: to extinguish the stove, just do as Luke did, and never let the lid on the stove before it has cooled down, as the heat would destroy the gasket. Provided one follows these simple rules, the stove can last for quite a while :-)
And just for curiosity: have a look on the lid. There is something written here:
www.keepshooting.com/swiss-m71-stove-4-pack.html
it reads: SIPURO-75-11, which says the maker is the Sipuro Co (chemical and household products), and the date this one was made: November 1975. Luke's one is dated October 1975 (at 5:54). Check yours :-)
With Sterno cans I found a paint can key or opener (the one with the curled tip) is great for opening Sterno cans without damaging the lid. You can find them where paint is sold. Sometimes they are free.
GOD Bless you and your families
Great head to head between the two. The M71 is an excellent stove thanks for sharing !
You can find Sterno at the 99 cent store. Considering the price of the Swiss M71 I think I will keep using Sterno. Thanks for the comparison though. Keep it up you seem to touch on ideas that are very practical.
The only downside with those M71s is finding ones that haven't dried out. I bought two 4-packs of them and half of them were empty/dried out. But it was ok...I had an instant alcohol stove. Just added some rolled woodstove door gasket in there, added alcohol, and was good to go! Love the stove stands too. Thanks for the video!
I was waiting for the music and the ground hog to start dancing! :)
You can refill the m71 with denatured alcohol: as long as there's still gum left in the bottom of the stove, the new fuel will gel up within an hour. Best stove ever.
To compare apples to apples your Sterno container should have the same opening size as the M71 boil test.
Hi sir im a US Army veteran i have that stove it is kool and small
I WOULD like to see a meal prepared with the M71. You know, something like breakfast eggs and whatever, a soup or such. Sometimes a meal in the woods is great fun. Thanks.
That's pretty good. I've actually been thinking about trying out the M71, so this basically sets it as a must try.
A test of the fuel used in weight may show why the M71 won. It appeared to have a larger flame area on the can as well. Nice review.
How much alcohol gel did the Swiss M71 use when you got done with it?
Hi Luke... Always a good feeling to see you. I LOVE these test's... Very cool. (Very smart... Thumbs up if you like coffee !) lol.
I hope you and the beautiful Susan have a fantastic day... Be safe bud... Peace.
thumbs up for the groundhog
it would be interesting to know the burn time on each canister.
I searched a few websites trying to find it for $4.50 (Amazon has cheapest price but it's still $10 with shipping). On one of the survivalist gear websites, they claim it has a 2 hour burn time in the product description but can be refilled with any type of gel/alcohol/bio fuel. Keepshooting dot com has a 4-pack for $17.95 plus whatever shipping is to your address. Here's a link for the 4-pack www.keepshooting.com/swiss-m71-stove-4-pack.html
EDIT: I'm ref the M71 stove above and not the Sterno
I got the same. But I found this:
www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/outdoor-camping-gear/stoves-accessories/swiss-m71-stove.html
They're $5.00 from this online surplus store.
Very cool, I don't know much about those stoves but I kinda like what I saw here. How many burns do you get from one can of that stuff? Thanks for sharing
Love the mil surplus stuff, cant wait for more :D
Always carried an ESBIT in my kit and the little sterno's but after this I'll be buying several M71's for my "get home kit"!
M71 vs Sterno ... Agree, how long does each one burn?
The M71 boils water faster, but if you only get 2 burns out of it, and Sterno gets 20 burns ..... then Sterno is the way to go.
When out camping & hunting I'm not in that big of a hurry to boil water so an extra 2 or 3 minutes isn't a deal breaker if I'm getting more burns with Sterno.
Sterno doesn't give you 20 boil and M71 doesn't give you 2 - it does 10. so does sterno. I tried both.
It would also be interesting to know how much fuel is left in each one or how long they last when it comes to fuel.
Interesting comparison. I was at a Dollar Tree store a few weeks ago and noticed they had alcohol burners for buffet table hot plates for $1 each. I was going to pick one up to try out but got distracted by a pretty lady and forgot about it. lol Might be worth checking out if you have a Dollar Tree near you. Thanks for the video. I like the idea of the versus episodes.
So, just out of curiosity, which one of those stoves left more residue on the pot? I noticed that there was a little residue after using the M71. Did the Sterno leave any residue? Which stove was easier to clean up from the pot perspective?
Darren Dean sterno leaves no residue it burns super clean.
You've done it now. That groundhog saw his shadow and Spring is cancelled.
~~~REQUEST~~~ Good video ! Would you please do a full burn test on each of these fuels , how long will they last ? Thank you .
Perhaps another interesting idea would be tor refill the M71 can to the same level that it was filled at with Sterno and do a retest. Or conversely take the top off of the Sterno can (which would mean that you would need a different potstand) and do a retest.
I thought Sterno's were made to keep food warm at buffets, not cook/boil. If they cooked too hot and fast they wouldn't be good for their intended purpose.
On Buffets they use a HEAT disperser under the pans or pots, or they just raise the pan higher away from the flame.
B.B. ➡ You are literally 100% correct. Sterno keeps hot food hot. It doesn't cook or heat much of anything
@@BingWatcherYet, the Sterno heated the cold Water to boiling.
I've used sterno a lot but I like the bio-fuel better! The M71 looks like a better buy! Thanks for the demo Luke. ZZ.
Is the Swiss resealable?
okay so i do not care how fast it comes to a boil what about how long does each last? will i be able to cook for more than one pot ? or a day ?
cool new series for your videos
Fill yer empty m71 with fire dragon x
Please do a kayak overnight camping vid.... Please
Very cool. Thanks for sharing. God bless
Good test. thanks
HI
I have a LIXADA Wood Stove (similar to the silverfire scout
& i an thinking of getting a ZEBRA Head 14cm Camping Pot
to go with it as a cook set.
Can anyone tell me if the LIXADA stove will fit inside a ZEBRA
with the lid locked closed if the middle pan is removed
You should try and show off tops knives
that ground hog is moving in on your turf man.
nice stove ...wish I had one
the M71 is faster but does it leaves burn black mark at the bottom of the pot?
Nice video. But, where can I buy those "literally billions" of tops for the sterno burner? Thanks
Just about anywhere brother; amazon has a bunch, eBay does too. Make sure to check the stats on whatever you are considering, some can be rather heavy.
- Luke
😎Cool 😎, Thank You, Luke!
Brilliant!
That groundhog didn't look happy to see you on his mountain...
I love to use my M71 potstand on my trangia-stove. Works great! Greetings from germany!
Hi GERMANY... This is Gettysburg PA... lol Many towns in Pennsylvania USA are named after German Towns.
I live not far from Hanover PA. .East Berlin, PA.. Abbottstown PA. and many more. I am of German Descent myself.
I have always wanted to come to Germany and visit... But the world has changed so much in the past 15 years... I think the World is in a struggle between light & Dark. I think the Light will win.
I hope that you are well and that God will shine a light for you. Peace, be safe Cousin...
Thanks Luke, I bought a case of the M71 stoves based upon your review ^^
Hi Luke!
M71 great little stove
The sterno and alcohol should have burned about the same. I would place the time difference on the stove design. Also sterno makes a cook can smaller, about the size of the M71. I would be curious to know if the results of both fuels, with the same stove top produce different results than todays... (I will say though, that sterno is made for warming, not cooking, So that may be the difference in the fuels. But still curious.)
can you review Mountain House products
what happens when you run out of gel? you have to buy a whole new m71 stove?
you can refill it with liquid alcohol it well harden as long as there is some gel. or you just use new gel
Well Sterno burns cooler. So if you want to simmer a soup or wild mushrooms or whatever and want a slower cooler burn, then Sterno is the one. Faster isn't always better.
Hey Luke hmm, Swiss has to win
The nice thing about this kind of stove you can refuel them both with with heet or alcohol
Of course, the Swiss product won because the Swiss make the best stuff on the planet. I used to think the German stuff was best, but the Swiss beats all. (and you get the pot stand)
Larry Kramer they even influenced the first Jamaican bobsled team. Eins, Zwei, Drei!
Can not compare cooking fuel efficiency to chaffing fuel. It would be like saying there are literally a billion types of Sterno, when there's only one! 🤔.
But lets not get into the weeds 🙄🙄
Hey Luke, im a guy from Denmark, and i would like to ask some political questions, but i know that you try to not include politics in your channel. Let me know if you could answer some questions from a foreigner
Hey buddy, I not talking politics, email me and we will shoot the breeze. - Luke
theoutdoorgearreview@gmail.com