Astrophotography with a Tiny Telescope. Could the Evoguide 50ED be a budget WO RedCat 51?

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  • @AstroCrescent
    @AstroCrescent Рік тому +2

    That’s an interesting review of the small setup.

  • @wesleydonnelly2141
    @wesleydonnelly2141 Рік тому +2

    My goodness me! At around 9:55 mark, that M83 galaxy image with the ZWO Camera was just stunning!! Did you see the detail!!?? The red Ha / Dust lanes interspersed with what I assume is a lot of super massive young Blue Stars illuminating the surrounding gases and dust!!?? There's A LOT of Star formation going on in that galaxy! I'm guessing it's because there's a lot of HA Gases which are fuelling the new massive Stars forming!? Just incredible! 🌀☀
    On subject of your experiment with Evo50, I am practiaclly lost for words! I never would have dreamed that such high quality Astro-photos could be produced with such a tiny 'scope that wasn't ever designed for such a purpose!? I've wracked my brain trying to think of negatives, but I just can't see any!? For the relative pennies, you can produce works as high quality as you so diligently demonstrated, why on God's good Earth would you want to spend 3-4 times the money on something that isn't going to give you even twice the performance, never mind 4 TIMES the performance!? LOL!? ) It's as much of a "no-brainer" as I've ever came across!! Thank You for such a brilliant and helpful and money saving experiment! You've definitely made my mind up about my next 'scope!
    Wes, Liverpool UK ( Bortle 7 )

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      Hi Wesley! Thanks so much for the taking the time to comment and share your knowledge. It made me take a closer look at the picture and appreciate it even more.
      It was hard to comprehend even the first stretch! It's funny before I purchased my current Evolux and Evoguide I was contemplating getting the RedCat 51 but had the same doubts as the Evoguide of what it would be able to produce. But by chance I think this has given me the best of both worlds.
      Again thanks very much for your support and insight and I'm glad we share the same passion and interest in this part of the hobby :)
      Dan

    • @wesleydonnelly2141
      @wesleydonnelly2141 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 Hi again Dan! You're most welcome! I'm really happy I helped you appreciate your beautiful image that little bit more! Astro-imaging can be bloody hard going and ofcourse it drains our bank accounts too, so I think we owe it to ourselves to really enjoy what we image!
      I've actually just purchased a used but pristine evoguide 50! All thanks to you Dan! I can't wait to get it outside!
      Clear Skies Dan!
      Wes.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      @@wesleydonnelly2141 What great timing! Hopefully you have some clear skies and find some targets I can't see from down here! Looking forward to seeing how you go.

    • @wesleydonnelly2141
      @wesleydonnelly2141 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 Yes I'll let you know how I fare with the new 'scope Dan! I've got some ace ideas what to go after!
      Wes.

  • @Wheeljack678
    @Wheeljack678 Рік тому

    Your passion and excitement is really contagious (in a good way).

  • @BadYossa
    @BadYossa Рік тому +1

    I was pondering the Redcat, as I'd read and watched a lot online, stating how good it is. I'm not denying it's a beast, but I can buy the 533, flattener and the Evo guide for £720, which is £70 less the Redcat on its ow. Buggeration, I'm now off down another bloody rabbit hole. Aaaaaaargh.
    Great wee vid mate. The look of suprise when you applied the Noise was priceless. I would used language that would have banned from UA-cam. Excellent shots mate.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      I apologise, I hate when people do that to me, just let me make up my mind 😂😂 I love my 533, I agree the redcats are beautiful and fit right into the ZWO colour scheme.
      Haha it gets me everytime, there's some smart people out there who do this software. Lucky we can make cuts and edits before we upload. You'd be best not to live stream 😂😂 Thanks mate!

  • @dereksmith4517
    @dereksmith4517 10 місяців тому +2

    I am looking at getting the 533 and your results are looking good.

  • @davidpippin3460
    @davidpippin3460 Рік тому +1

    Your genuine excitement at your results is awesome! I have a AM5/RedCat51/ASI AIR+/same camera as yours in my rig and I still havent gotten it outside as the weather in Bavaria sucks most of the time :(. Very nice work my man!

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      David your setup is the envy of us at all! That would be one good looking rig. 🔭 It's a crime you haven't had clear skies yet, looking forward to your results when you 😄

  • @anthonywarwick6090
    @anthonywarwick6090 Рік тому +2

    That’s a great test. I almost got rid of my EVOGUIDE ED 50 after buying an ACL200 and FMA 180 from Askar. Redcat supposed to be gold standard in this category of scope. For the cost and difference in quality who would buy his majesty the Redcat ? Hmmm. A 3D clamp, SWED50, Starizona flattener and SW AZ-GTI i. EQ mode…laughing for less $$$. Everyone says ummm more than we realise. You’ve encouraged me to get my crap together and use my gear.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Thanks Anthony, that's the route I'm going now and I plan to use it as my main imaging setup for the foreseeable future. I'm on the lookout for a 3D clamp, the Starizona ones look great but haven't heard back from the yet. It's definitely given me a new spark of excitement, really appreciate your time to comment, looking forward to hearing more about your setup.

  • @michaelcole5803
    @michaelcole5803 Рік тому +1

    I just finished building the exact same setup. Waiting for first light. Excellent video.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Thanks Michael, that's awesome to hear. Where abouts in the world do you live? Maybe you might be able to image some targets that we can't see down here :) Please let me know how you go!

    • @michaelcole5803
      @michaelcole5803 Рік тому

      I live in Connecticut USA. Love to compare pictures and notes.

    • @michaelcole5803
      @michaelcole5803 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 Finally got first light with the Evoguide 50ED. Great little scope. I’m certainly not disappointed. I did my imaging on Block Island, RI. USA. Let me know your email and I’ll send you the picture I took of M8 and M20. Thanks again for a great video. 🎉🎉🎉

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      @@michaelcole5803 that's awesome mate! Did you end up getting a Flattener as well?

    • @michaelcole5803
      @michaelcole5803 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 Yes I did. I’m using the Starizona Field Flattener

  • @fazergazer
    @fazergazer Рік тому +1

    I have the same setup with evolux 50ED! I agree 100% with your assessment

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      That's great Geoff! What mount are you using?

    • @fazergazer
      @fazergazer Рік тому

      The skywatcher GTi modified for equatorial polar use. I followed Cuiv’s channel for that modification. With an ASIAIR and a small 30 mm guide scope SVBony

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      That's such a good mount, I also had one as well but ended up selling it as I didn't travel as much as I thought I would!

  • @ziggyfrnds
    @ziggyfrnds Рік тому +1

    Wow well done mate! That M83 is just fantastic. I already have a 50ED and a star adventurer mount. I also have an ASI 585MC that I use for planetary and lunar I'll put that in and try it out. I never thought to try this for deep space....you've given me purpose!! :)
    Can you please guide me how you setup the imaging train on the SW 50ED, did you use any spacers between the 50ED and flattener? Or did the flattener screw directly into the OTA? Thanks

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      Thanks heaps for the kind feedback! I've heard about the the 585MC, but haven't seen much of it. It looks like a great camera. If you have the starizona Flattener yep it's the standard 55mm back focus which I used. But you also have to untwist and remove the extension tube from the Evoguide or you won't achieve focus. The Flattener then screws in directly where the extension tube screwed into. If the 585 has quite a small sensor you might even be able to get away with out a Flattener. I'll drop a link below to starizona webpage. If we scroll down you'll see you can click on the instructions :)
      starizona.com/products/evoff-field-flattener-for-skywatcher-evoguide-50ed

  • @mashpotatomountainobserver3338

    Thanks I'm thinking about getting this scope. Great to see what it can do. Nice pics.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Thanks heaps, glad you enjoyed it. That's also one of the best UA-cam name/profile pic I've seen 😂😂

  • @sjpp71
    @sjpp71 Рік тому

    Great result you've got, mate! The Evoguide 50 It's a really nice little astrograph, the good glass it's got along with the Starizona field flattener do all the magic. The focuser, as others have said, has like 1/2 a turn of backlash (you turn it inwards, and when going backwards you can feel it disengages until it grabs the thread again), but I think it's predictable enough (and you can use the focuser lock screw). I've been using mine for almost 2 years along with a Qhy183C (and also with a 294MM whit filter wheel, and even sometimes with my canon 1100D) and really happy with the data I had captured. Stars nice and pointy sharp all the way to the edge, chromatic aberration under control. It amazes me that not many people have discovered this economic and great little scope!

    • @AntPDC
      @AntPDC Рік тому

      My focus lock screw does nothing.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Hey Sergio! That's great to hear you've been having such great results and by the sounds of it, one of the first to do some serious Astrophotography with it. Do you have a link to your images through astrobin or something similar? I'd love to check them out. Thanks heaps for the focuser tip too!

    • @sjpp71
      @sjpp71 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 Oh no, I'm definitely not the first to use it as an astrograph. Particularly, I got one when looking for a small refractor wide enough to capture Andromeda (back in 2020). Then I saw a video on YT by Andrea Minoia relating his experiences with the scope. I reckon I checked on stargazers' lounge and cloudynights as well. Some people were discussing how to add a proper focuser, or a diagonal short enough to reach focus and use as a daytime telescope (you know, like for birding) . So credit were is due :) . Anyway it's very nice to see that many more people is using this nice little astrograph. As for my images, I don't have an astrobin account, normally I post in SE QLD astrophotography group. Still learning, so no APOD material yet, hehe . Clear skies!.

  • @astrotherapist
    @astrotherapist Рік тому

    Fantastic job! Love the images!

  • @ascaniosobrero
    @ascaniosobrero Рік тому

    Even more happy of my choice! I think for the price is probably the best (for the price, clearly). I have been using this with an astrocamera and with a Nikon, always getting appreciable results

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      That's great to hear you've already been using it! Feel free to link your images with your Nikon :)

  • @mrnother
    @mrnother Рік тому

    Thanks for this! Motivates me to use my Evoguide for DS too.

  • @IvanLPierce
    @IvanLPierce Рік тому +1

    Which flattener did you use? I am thinking about grabbing this setup ... I've already got the mount, so for about 1200 wow...great find. I love this hobby...and thank you for the content!

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Hey Ivan no worries at all! I'm using the Starizona EvoFF V2 :)
      starizona.com/products/evoff-field-flattener-for-skywatcher-evoguide-50ed

  • @horvathrenata968
    @horvathrenata968 Рік тому +2

    Evolux ED series are the very best Apochromatic scope currently in the market!

  • @JustJamie-h3l
    @JustJamie-h3l Рік тому +1

    looks great mate. i use my sigma 150-500mm zoom lens on my dslr to do wide field shots , its an 80mm apochromatic f5 at 150mm to f6.3 at 500mm, i was surprised when i shot a few galaxies and the witch's head nebula with it how clear it is for a camera lens , i bought it some years ago for bird photography so i was pleased it worked so well for something i already had laying around.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +2

      The fact that you bought the lense for a totally different purpose makes this even more rewarding! I should see what else I have lying around 😂

  • @devoncroll
    @devoncroll Рік тому +1

    Hey mate just found your channel. Cool to see how stoked you are by what you are producing. Did you order the field flattener direct or is there somewhere in Aus/NZ that stocks them?

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Thanks heaps Devon. I couldn't find anyone stocking them in Aus. I ended up getting mine from 365 Astronomy in the UK. Pretty good price as we don't get charged VAT. Cheers!

  • @Tony-Elliott
    @Tony-Elliott Рік тому

    Excellent image's Dan from such a small scope and no chromatic aberration, make me wonder if it's worth spending money on a top of the range large scope or just invest in a dedicated astro camera,

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Tony! I wish there weren't so many big decisions like that to be made 😅 I guess if we're prioritising, it seems a good camera can compliment a cheaper scope over a good telescope and a cheaper camera. Bigger does look better though 😂

  • @PafMedic
    @PafMedic Рік тому +1

    Oh Damn,Nice Set Up,Bortle 4 Here Too,But I Have The Evostar72 and Evoguide,Ive Had It For Almost 2 Years,and What Little Ive Gotten To Use It,I Love It,I Dont Have The Gear You Do,lol..But Happy With Mine,Also Have A 6se,Mak90,AR102-1000 And A 114LCM😂..Beautiful Image❤️Witch Head,Thats Incredible,Gorgeous Galaxy,Great Video👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽Their All Beautiful,Would Love To See Carina In That,Hint Hint,New Sub🙋🏼‍♀️Again,Sweet Video,My DS Set Up Is A Whole New Ball Game For Me,lol..But Im Ready,Im Never Ready😂,Have Fun With That Scope,and Clear Skies🙏🏻❤️🔭🌏✨

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      You've got a big selection there! I'm jealous of your Mak and SCT. I wouldn't mind one of those for some up close planetary viewing! I think I'll definitely have to some narrowband imaging with it now! I think Carine would be perfect. Thanks for taking the time to comment! Cheers 😄

  • @ChrisWard-ul1sl
    @ChrisWard-ul1sl Рік тому

    Great review and many thanks for saving me a load of cash by not having to buy the Redcat 51. If only Skywatcher did the Evoguide 50ED in red!😁

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  11 місяців тому

      Haha we have to save money where we can in this hobby 😂😂 Yes! A custom red would be nice haha

  • @markpoole8945
    @markpoole8945 11 місяців тому +1

    Did your Evoguide have as much slop in the focuser as mine does? With the focuser locked, I can move the focus ring more than half a turn from one side to the other.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  6 місяців тому

      Hey Mark I definitely agree that there is slop. There also seems to be a lag when zooming in and out, like the threads take time to catch. It would have been great if they put a little more effort into it. Hopefully they bring out a V3!

  • @Katsjosh
    @Katsjosh Рік тому

    8:06 That brighter star near the witch head is actually the one that's near the bottom of the frame on the left.

  • @wazigeralph
    @wazigeralph Рік тому +1

    Nice

  • @walterpastor2496
    @walterpastor2496 Рік тому

    Is the Evoguide 50DX the same as the 50ED? Is there any diff in the lenses? Thank you. Nice video.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      Hi mate yes I believe optically they are the exact same. The DX (or V2) comes with an upgraded dovetail that's all. Cheers!

  • @MazzifLOL
    @MazzifLOL Рік тому +1

    Ive been calling my EvoGuide 50 rig the 'CheapCat' for a while haha

  • @darrenwilliams414
    @darrenwilliams414 Рік тому

    i have used my evoguide 50ed with a asi1600mm pro & got some good data I'm now using it for my second rig with a eos 1100d it's a great little scope but the focuser isn't great

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Hey Darren, are you using a filter wheel as well? I agree the focuser isn't the best and could easily be knocked out of focus.

    • @darrenwilliams414
      @darrenwilliams414 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 i was using efw but also had 3d printed rings for the cam so it was supported both ends the issue with the focuser is the 3/4 of a turn of backlash also using EvoFF v2 - Field Flattener

  • @wildweedle6012
    @wildweedle6012 6 місяців тому +1

    That's almost exactly my rig.

  • @marklewis9265
    @marklewis9265 Рік тому

    HI Dan, whereabouts in Qld are you located? We have a very active group here in Brissy?

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Hey Mark I'm live on the Gold Coast but work in Toowoomba during the week where I do most of my imaging. What was the name of your group?

  • @hael8680
    @hael8680 Рік тому +1

    I did that last year with a Starizona Evo flattener and a 2600MC. 1/2 the price of a Cat and same result.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Nice work, would of been a nice wide view. No problem with vinetting and flats?

    • @hael8680
      @hael8680 Рік тому +1

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 None at all.

    • @universewonders1
      @universewonders1 Рік тому

      ​​@@hael8680do You have curvature at the edges with the 2600 with field flattener?

    • @markpoole8945
      @markpoole8945 11 місяців тому

      Did you have any issues with distorted stars are the corners with the 2600MC? Any example pictures you can share?

  • @andersonbueno6786
    @andersonbueno6786 Рік тому

    Hello friend, this is Anderson from Brazil and I would like to thank you for the content presented in this video.
    I have some doubts, I'm going to start astrophography and I don't have anything, would you indicate this configuration to start? or indicate another one with a cost benefit.
    - skywatcher telescope Evoguide 50DX
    - EvoFF v2 - Field Smoother for SkyWatcher
    EvoGuide 50ED
    - mount skywatcher star adventure gti
    - camera asi294 color or asi294 pro color or asi593 pro or asi183 or other that you indicate?
    - I won't buy guiding telescope and cameras for now
    - filters what does it indicate? in my city botle 8
    with these settings can I get good images and good exposures of up to 60 seconds?
    thank you very much!

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +4

      Thanks heaps for your message Ando! I think the Scope, Flattener and Mount are excellent choices!
      The 294 & 183MC both have Amp glow which means you always have to use calibration frames so as a beginner I probably wouldn’t recommend those.
      The 533MC Pro and 585MC don’t have Amp Glow, are excellent sensors and would pair great the scope. The 585MC is quite a lot cheaper because it’s not cooled, which again is one less thing to worry about :)
      You would definitely benefit from a filter, if you get the 533 or 585 it also means you can use a 1.25inch filter instead of a 2inch. 1.25 filters are much cheaper. I’d recommend one of the Optolong Narrow Band Filters :)
      That setup you easily get 5-10min exposures with guiding and probably up to 5min unguided. So 60sec exposures would be easy :)

  • @Astroduck44
    @Astroduck44 11 місяців тому

    What field flattener do you use with the evoguide?

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  6 місяців тому

      Hey Astroduck! Sorry for the late reply, it's the Starizona Evoguide FF V2. I either purchased it from First Light Optics or direct from Starizona

  • @doubledark2
    @doubledark2 Рік тому

    wow! What mount are you using?

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Hey mate I'm using the Skywatcher HEQ5 Pro :)

    • @doubledark2
      @doubledark2 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 thanks for replying! Is it stock or with the Rowan belt upgrade?

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      @@doubledark2 Sorry it does have the belt mod, performance is quite similar around 0.5-0.8arc seconds on average but definitely quieter :)

    • @doubledark2
      @doubledark2 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 that belt mod does up the price a bit; might try this mount "as is" - $$$ quickly add up :(

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      @@doubledark2 as is it's a great mount. I had absolutely no issues with mine, down the track I just had some spare change so I decided to do it. Good luck!

  • @Oxizee
    @Oxizee Рік тому

    Whats wrong with the Evolux?

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому

      Nothing's wrong with it, it's a great scope. I just wanted to see what results were attainable with the Evoguide and Flattener 😊

  • @khoatran9804
    @khoatran9804 Рік тому +1

    YES. Despite the wobbly, backlashy, tilty focuser, on a sensor up to about 4/3 size, I want to say that the EvoGuide is optically very much in the same league as the RedCat 51.

  • @AntPDC
    @AntPDC Рік тому

    Thank you PAA. For those on a budget, and perhaps those with ample dosh but want ultimate portability, my inexpert findings coincide with yours with regard to the Evoguide 50 ED. And I was frankly astonished to get this, my very first deep sky astrophotography attempt:
    ua-cam.com/video/jzSEQUJ2Hv0/v-deo.html

  • @petesabout
    @petesabout Рік тому +2

    I'm sure this is a helpful clip, but after hearing " Errrrm" over 50 times in the first 10 minutes, it became difficult to unhear it and my Errrrm-O-meter exploded!

  • @chrislarosa3327
    @chrislarosa3327 Рік тому +1

    Great video, but do you realize how many times you say um just thought I’d let you know you said a lot ha ha ha ha ha

  • @wesleyjohnson597
    @wesleyjohnson597 Рік тому

    and here i thought i was gonna be looking at something i would actually be able to afford before i die.

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +1

      One Kidney at a time

    • @wesleyjohnson597
      @wesleyjohnson597 Рік тому

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 hell yeah brother I'll sell one of mine as well

    • @wesleyjohnson597
      @wesleyjohnson597 Рік тому

      I just now noticed that your the maker of the video that responded to my comment that's awesome dude but when I saw the picture of the Galaxy you took I was just in awe It brings so much emotion up in me from somewhere it's crazy. But I'm slowly building up a setup and a skillset because of people like you that are showing us what's out there.thank you

  • @JohnJordache
    @JohnJordache Рік тому +3

    “ amm… emm… emmmm… emmmmmm … EMMM … “ 😓🤦🏻‍♂️😳. Until you put some genuine effort into this videos and at least do a basic script for your clips … I just can’t subscribe to this channel…
    DUDE… you said “ EMMM… “ like over 50 TIMES IN THIS VIDEO.. at least, you go ahead and count it, every freakin 3 - 5 seconds you spell : “ EMMM… “ do you have any idea how disturbing that is ?! 😓🫵🏻🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @prettyaverageastro7409
      @prettyaverageastro7409  Рік тому +15

      Lol it's called pretty Average Astro for a reason. Thanks for your arm chair feedback. Feel free to make your own content, hopefully you can do a better job than me.

    • @dvaughnluma
      @dvaughnluma Рік тому +9

      Who the hell makes a comment like this? Please don't breed.
      I actually enjoyed the content. I have the same scope and use it as a guide scope, but these results make me want to do some wide field stuff with it. Keep up the awesome work!

    • @paulkocz
      @paulkocz Рік тому +1

      @@prettyaverageastro7409 Forget lonut lordache - hasn't even posted anything on UA-cam. Watching you is like listening to me trying to explain this in my head. Love the content and keep it up. It's great to see the journey of your work. I'll keep watching what you post.

    • @jamesdavies3223
      @jamesdavies3223 Рік тому

      lonut lordache, How many vids have you uploaded? I think you are pretty sad mate. No need to make such comments when someone has clearly put effort in. Unlike you.