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#1 not consensual?! I wish you had gone into more detail on that. I’ve always looked at Clark Gable as one of the good guys. The scriptwriter of Gone With The Wind wanted him to use the N-word and he flat out refused to. When production tried to force him, he used his star power to get every instance of the word removed from the script, replaced with the much more palatable (at that time) term ‘darkies’. I’m sure the other actors also appreciated not having to say the N word, but he had the star power to actually stop it.
@@RLucas3000 Loretta Young admitted to her daughter-in-law, while watching an "Oprah" episode on date rape that Young, while she had been in love with Gable on the set of "Call of the Wild" (1935) had, in fact, been raped by Gable on the train bringing them back to Los Angeles, culminating in her pregnancy.
@@RLucas3000it was consensual 100%. She did 💩 for research and only added it for gossip purposes. They had an affair while on set of a movie. Its pretty well known they had a CONSENSUAL affair. Dont believe this crap. She really did Clark wrong on this one and owes an apology.
@@akrenwinkle 😆 I know, I know, I'm late to the game on Liza Minneli 😑 I'm late to the game on musicals in general, but I'm getting more and more familiar!
It seems alarming that Charlie Chaplin married four young girls when he was a great deal older than them, though Oona O'Neil was already 18. This would definitely not fly by today's standards.
When I first heard about that, I instantly thought of Jerry Lee Lewis who married his 13-year-old cousin. Unlike Charlie, he lost his career and didn't receive the popularity he once had.
@@someoneyoudontknow7705 yeah it may be swept under the rug. I agree with you weird stuff is going on but it has to be on the DL or if people figured it out the celeb would be labeled a baddie.
What shocked me the most was “we’re considering old Hollywood as movies before 1970’s” in my mind it’s like that was no more than 30 some odd years ago! That hurts!
Rock Hudson and Jim Neighbors being gay. In fact, a lot of 'old' Hollywood actors being gay but always covered up. Faye Dunaway had a child out of wedlock and she never told anyone she even had a child. So many, many more like this. Almost all of these rumors are hardly scandalous in today's society save for having a proclivity for underage children.
@@atompunk5575 Producer/director Thomas Ince died on Hearst's yacht while it was out at sea. Witnesses saw a bullet wound to his head. His murder was never solved, and it was barely investigated.
My grandmother was an actress with MGM from 1941-1957. She was very good friends with Judy and many other actors. All of these are things she told me over the years. Judy’s treatment by her mother, MGM, and her 3 handlers was unreal!!! The movies about her life barely scratch the surface.
Yes! 😳🙄 Great Video Until The Last Item. From What I Remember 🤔( A Long Time Ago ) Clark Gable Wanted To Marry Loretta Young , ( After He Got Her Pregnant. ) But Loretta Young Said No. So They Kept The Identity Of The Daughter ( Judy ) A Secret. From All Accounts Clark Gable And Loretta Young Were Very Much In Love. But Unfortunately Loretta Young Did Not Want To Marry Clark.
That's kind of true. According to Judy Loretta told her one of her life regrets was that she never married Clark. He was still married though and she was very worried about the effect on both their careers so she told him no when he wanted to be together.
@@cdonorab I Looked This Up On Google. And Google Did Not 🚫 Mention Whether Clark Gable Was Married To Another Woman When Clark Gable And Loretta Young Were Making A Movie 🎥 Together , In 1935. But Google Did Mention That Clark Gable Was Married Several Different Times. So I 🤔 Assumed That Clark Gable Was Married When Clark Gable And Loretta Young Were Lovers. I Assume That Clark Gable Was An Honorable Man , And Would Divorce His Wife, If He Got Another Woman Pregnant , In Which He Did.
For the rest of my life, I can’t help but think that poor Judy Garland got done so wrong. They had that young woman doped up on so much speed that there was no way for her to function healthfully not to mention that that damage that they did to her eventually led to her damaging her daughter, and I can only imagine how much more successful both of those women would’ve been had MGM not done everything it did to her, they destroyed Judy Garland What a couple shitty movies not worth it in the long run the trauma that it did
Even though I knew about Chaplin, his pension for young ladies did give me a bit of the ickies. Then again, look at Woody Allen. He disgusts me. His own child?!? I honestly don't support any films he makes and don't even know how he isn't snubbed from Hollywood. Great upload!! 😊
Soon-Yi Previn was NOT Woody Allen's daughter. She was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow when she was with Andre Previn, hence Soon-Yi's last name. There was a 12-year relationship between Mia Farrow and Woody Allen but it was not a marriage nor nor common-law as they each had separate residences. The fact that they've been married since 1997 says a lot, but it's still creepy from a moral point of view! (For the record, I'm not a Woody Allen fan but I believe in truth and facts.)
True, but Woody and Mia did have adopted children together other than Soon-Yi. He was more father than anything else before he was something else.@@nohandle1028
I wonder if Marlene Dietrich ever saw Madeline Kahn do her parody in Blazing Saddles. Charles Foster Kane was mostly modeled after Hearst,but also several other people.One was a utility magnate who built an opera house for his singer wife.
Riefenstahl was a great film-maker and probably the best film editor who ever lived. It is so sad that she got taken in by Hilter in her youth like the rest of her nation did. She repudiated him later but her "Triumph of the Will" helped to bring him to power and she paid dearly for it for the rest of her life. I so wish her talent had blossomed somewhere else. We might have gotten some great films.
She was responsible for creating and perfecting documentary techniques that are still standard and commonplace in sports broadcasting to this day. Her innovations still live on in Olympic Games broadcasting even now. It's such a shame we'll never get to see what she could have done if she was lucky enough to be born somewhere else instead.
Okay, I knew partly about # 1, but I'm upset to learn Clark Gable was a rapist. That man had everything going good for him in his life, what the hell 🤦 🤷 Clark?! It makes so much more sense now that Loretta probably sought to protect herself and her child as best she could. May they all rest in peace ✌️
My cousin Linda Darnell was a victim of Hollywood BS but her roles dried up because she wouldn't couch hop so to speak but I respect her more for that tbh... but Hollywood said some crap about her over the years deflecting blame off them like they're known for but I know the truth about her from my grandpa and his dad who knew her and grew up with her
Leni Riefenstahl was a visionary filmmaker. Without her filmmaking would be different today. She invented fly by filming and the camera crane. Yes it was done, to film the Reichsparteitag in Nurmberg, however the ideas happend to be genius.
You know the two Oscar-winning actresses that had the estrangement you know anyone that’s been a sibling knows it’s not easy to be a sibling and it’s certainly not easy to be a sister especially when you’re both competitive people who both want the same dream Hollywood exploited those two women and drove them apart
Citizen Kane was a great movie. I’ve been to Heast Castle a few times. It’s so remote and for the time it was a masterful feat to get it built. One guide said that Hearst “raped” Europe of so many fire places, bits and bobs of castles. His collection was so huge, when he wanted a piece, he discovered he already had it in storage. If you’re ever in California, it’s a good experience…he was a terrible man with all the yellow journalism. He couldn’t marry Marion Davies because his Catholic wife wouldn’t give him a divorce. She created the UCLA Marion Davies Children Center and after many years, it’s now The UCLA Mattel Children’s Hospital after a large donation by Mattel, Inc.
Walt Disney himself inviting a German filmaker is what shocked me the most. Have a happy thursday morning, Kirsten. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
I bet Marlene did that! She was one of the few Hollywood stars at the time that was able to dub her own characters like in 6-7 different languages, makes sense to me.
It’s also well known that Orson Wells and Hearst had a very tumultuous relationship. They weren’t friends, but they also weren’t enemies that you were out in Cali and get a chance to be near San Luis Obispo. You should definitely go see William Randolph, hurst Castle
You forgot about Joan Crawford. Her daughter had wrote mommy dearest on how bad she was abused by her mom which led to a great movie. And she believed her and her brother were really Joan Crawford kids and not adopted. And I think she said she thinks she may have been Clark gables but not sure on that pat. But her brother had not been on her side cuz he had said that their mother was not abusive. So it was the daughter had said their mother was abusive to her. Don't know if the boy was treated that way or not cuz he said it never happened.
There is an episode of the Phil Donahue show from 1989 you can find in yt. In that interview Lana Turner's daughter, Cheryl Crane, stated that her mother said that she and a lot of other people in Hollywood knew that Joan Crawford abused Christina.
Hollywood straight up mur'drd Judy Garland. She never stood a chance! Her childhood was given away to the studios and thats all she ever knew. And they killed her to get their cash cow. Awful. Im glad she had her children, someone to love and be loved by in this life. She deserved that much. Also, you owe Clark Gable a huge apology! Any decent research would prove they had a CONSENSUAL affair on the set of a movie. Thats the kind of awful gossip that keeps me from giving any likes or from subscribing. Taking this as constructive criticism will hopefully help improve your research and the information you choose to dispel. Js. You did good on most of these outside of pronunciation, but you did Gable WRONG and I think you owe an apology. Her story changed after he passed away and couldnt defend himself. Shame!
Correction to the # 1 on the list: Ms. Lorretta Young wasn't the one who said she was "r/d". Her daughter-in-law waited to expose Ms. Young's "secret" to the world until EVERYONE who could and would refute it was dead including Young & Gable's daughter which makes my skin crawl. Hell, the more I read about her and Gable's affair and how religious Ms. Young was the more I believe that Ms. Young accused him of date/r/d thinking that would absolve her of her sin of having an affair with a married man, having a child out of wedlock, LYING to that child about you adopting her until she was 31 years old when the adult child confronts you about the affair & the lies about her parentage, including her MOTHER, AND calling your own child to their face "a walking mortal sin" as if the product of the sinners is the sin! NO, honey, it doesn't work like that! You do not get call a BABY a sinner because you had an affair with a married man and you were ashamed of yourself and knew you couldn't get into Heaven. Well, LYING to your child for 31 years about you being their adoptive mother instead of their BIRTH mother is just freaking rich. I honestly wouldn't believe Ms. Young and her claims to be honest. It truly sounded like she was ashamed of her child and that the child was the sinner but not the grownass adults who goofed around and had her. At first, I thought she loved her kid by all of the hoops, she jumped through to hide the pregnancy and to "adopt" her own child to keep up the ruse. However, I expected that the mother would be telling the child of the truth at around the age of 10 when children understand how to keep secrets. Judy, Ms. Young's daughter, found out that her adoptive mother was actually her birth mother by someone she was dating when she was 31 years old and she confronted her mother with the news. Then Ms. Young has the audacity to call Judy "a walking mortal sin", taking ZERO accountability for her own actions and her own affair. The daughter-in-law/sister-in-law waited until Judy died before spreading the news that Young was r/d by Gable, saying that Young didn't want Judy to be hurt by finding out that part. I find that really hard to buy after Ms. Young called her daughter a 'mortal sin'. Shameful. It honestly sounds like Ms. Young thought blaming Gable, who couldn't defend himself because he'd been dead, and changing their "affair" (her description of their time together). Oh...let's not forget the fact that Ms. Young had a reputation...nay....an actual history of falling in love with her leading man while on set, making her accusations even harder to buy. (I'm not saying it didn't happen. I am saying that it's really hard to believe with some any flaws and the fact that the sister-in-law decided to expose the family's secrets YEARS after the last person who could've refuted the claims died. Just a bit sus to me. It's only my opinion. I'm not saying it didn't happen.)
You can be in love with someone and still be r@ped by them. Sometimes, it can take time to process that you've been r@ped, especially if it's by someone you love. You cannot say one way or another if this happened. You weren't there. 3rd party accounts don't matter either. No one would have thought my last ex would have been capable, and yet he attempted to SA me at night when we would go to bed, so much so I now have insomnia from staying awake long past him falling asleep.
This was factually wrong. Loretta Young had a consensual affair with Gable when they were filming Call of the Wild in the mountains. Supposedly Young told a female relative that late in life she saw something on TV and realized she had been date raped. This is pure hearsay, since both Young and Gable were dead when this poisonous story was released. They were screwing aroung up in the mountains filming Call of the Wild. Look-Gable was no choir boy but neither was Young. She also had a hot affair with Spencer Tracy. Of course, now there’s a ridiculous story that both Tracy and Hepburn were closeted gays.
@@Kc1304_ Fun Fact: Dinosaurs roamed the earth for 165 million years. Reaction: "How do you know? Were you there?" So innocent, so special needs, I love it!
@@akrenwinkle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I get the point you’re trying to make a point but not the best example when scientists have found fossils and bones as proof of dinosaurs. Next time your making that point find a different example 😜😜
Great Video Until The Last Item. For All Practical Purposes , ( As Far As I Know. ) Clark Gable And Loretta Young Making Love Was Consentual. I Am Posting 📬 This 👇 At 4:56 p.m. , Saturday Afternoon 🌁🛤️🛣️🏙️ , March 23, 2024.
I admire this channel, but this one is weak sauce for anyone with even a middling knowledge of Hollywood history. Do a part 2, and go much, much deeper. Start with Spencer Tracy's homosexuality, Katharine Hepburn's homosexuality, Charles Laughton's scat proclivities, George Reeves' death, Carole Landis' death, LB Mayer's hit and run, Walter Brennan's virulent racism and his end-of-days ranch, Bing Crosby's virulent alcoholism, or just about anything from the files of the MGM fixer Eddie Mannix....
My grandmother live on Balboa Island, and as kids they used to swim around the boats. She said Errol Flynn would throw cigarette butts at them. She and her friends went to the small island where James Cagney lived, and he gave them a tour. She said he was very nice, and kind. A real gentleman.
Former Pittsburgh Steelers football (soccer, to the Brits) player Troy Palamalu has his long curly hair insured - at least, he did shortly aftee retiring from football about a decade ago.
*¡William Randolph Hearst began as an honorable male who later became extremely corrupt per His organizations including practicing Yellow Journalism with other awful deeds!* - 12:11 am Pacific DayLight Savings Time on Friday, 29 March 2024 on a leap year
"Unfortunately, the encounter with Gable that resulted in Young's pregnancy with Lewis was not consensual." That's one hell of a convoluted way to say that Gable raped Young. If it's rape, say it's rape. Stop with the euphemisms!
a strict catholic having pre-marriage sex with a known ladies man, knowing she was risking her career and reputation.......yeah ok, she wasnt catholic in the slighest. if she were, she wouldnt be doing all that on top of lying and deceving.
Really the Oscars broke away, so you need to tell me that they have a fucking beauty for actors because SAG ain’t doing shit for them. I mean you saw how easy it was for Hollywood to get those riders back to work. Do you think they’d be able to do anything without their actors? Do you think they’re ever gonna let their actors have a union? oh hell no because look at what the writers were able to imagine if the actual talent could do that.
So boring, How many times will you'll release the same video, Old Hollywood is so fascinating and compelling, Imagine thinking you're breaking news by talking about Clark Gable and Loretta Young having an affair and child in 2024 for the millionth time, Both those actors are far more interesting than your channel regulars will know. Such a pity.
You beat me to it with your comment. How many times will they recycle the same or similar content under slightly different titles? Think "Top 10 Dark Truths About Old Hollywood," "Top 10 Biggest Old Hollywood Scandals," or "Top 20 Dark Truths About Classic Hollywood Actors." Time for them to come up with some new ideas.
Right off the bat i'm put off believing anything you might say because you mispronounce the 1st person's name wrong: the final "e" is pronounced in Marlene.
My great great uncle's death had something to do with moonshine. Going to dig into local newspapers from the time period this month to see if I can find more.
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Charlie Chaplin was a monster who pioneered the infamous casting couch
#1 not consensual?! I wish you had gone into more detail on that. I’ve always looked at Clark Gable as one of the good guys. The scriptwriter of Gone With The Wind wanted him to use the N-word and he flat out refused to. When production tried to force him, he used his star power to get every instance of the word removed from the script, replaced with the much more palatable (at that time) term ‘darkies’. I’m sure the other actors also appreciated not having to say the N word, but he had the star power to actually stop it.
@@RLucas3000 Loretta Young admitted to her daughter-in-law, while watching an "Oprah" episode on date rape that Young, while she had been in love with Gable on the set of "Call of the Wild" (1935) had, in fact, been raped by Gable on the train bringing them back to Los Angeles, culminating in her pregnancy.
@@RLucas3000it was consensual 100%. She did 💩 for research and only added it for gossip purposes. They had an affair while on set of a movie. Its pretty well known they had a CONSENSUAL affair. Dont believe this crap. She really did Clark wrong on this one and owes an apology.
@@Pat4th I'm imagining a couch inside a covered wagon.
Judy Garland couldn't even count on her mother to protect her. She was a horrible 'stage mother'
She had no one
And sadly she did almost the same to her daughter
Yea I remember that being said bout Judy Garland. Her daughter Liza minilli had said that Hollywood had ruin her mother.
Minnelli *
I just watched cabaret last night and I had no idea she was Judy Garland's daughter....
@audrawells1383 same I'm mind blown right now
@@audrawells1383 Another fun fact: Paul McCartney was in a boy band. OMG!
@@akrenwinkle 😆 I know, I know, I'm late to the game on Liza Minneli 😑 I'm late to the game on musicals in general, but I'm getting more and more familiar!
I have always felt so, so sorry for Judy Garland. She did something right as a mother, though. All three of her children adored her.
It seems alarming that Charlie Chaplin married four young girls when he was a great deal older than them, though Oona O'Neil was already 18. This would definitely not fly by today's standards.
The 1992 movie does explore that
Actually, with all the weird and creepy stuff today, it would probably be accepted and you’d be labeled something if you had any objection to it.
When I first heard about that, I instantly thought of Jerry Lee Lewis who married his 13-year-old cousin. Unlike Charlie, he lost his career and didn't receive the popularity he once had.
@@someoneyoudontknow7705 yeah it may be swept under the rug.
I agree with you weird stuff is going on but it has to be on the DL or if people figured it out the celeb would be labeled a baddie.
@@HopeGardner3amed. Typo. WASN'T hidden. He was tried in court.
What shocked me the most was “we’re considering old Hollywood as movies before 1970’s” in my mind it’s like that was no more than 30 some odd years ago! That hurts!
I thought old hollywood was anything like pre 1950's
@@nvm9040same, but maybe cuz I’m a millennial I think of the 90s like yesterday
Definitely scary. I was born in 1977 and I don’t feel 47, old movies should be before 1940s not 1970s
Rock Hudson and Jim Neighbors being gay. In fact, a lot of 'old' Hollywood actors being gay but always covered up. Faye Dunaway had a child out of wedlock and she never told anyone she even had a child. So many, many more like this. Almost all of these rumors are hardly scandalous in today's society save for having a proclivity for underage children.
Hearst was so powerful that a murder on his yacht was never solved.
What murder 👀
@@atompunk5575 Producer/director Thomas Ince died on Hearst's yacht while it was out at sea. Witnesses saw a bullet wound to his head. His murder was never solved, and it was barely investigated.
Watch Peter Bogdanovichs The Cat‘s Meow. It‘s about the murder.
@@jodyharnish9104 Thomas Ince died of natural causes not bullet
I love Hollywood and movies and TV but some of these things are truly shocking and we should never forget.
My grandmother was an actress with MGM from 1941-1957. She was very good friends with Judy and many other actors. All of these are things she told me over the years. Judy’s treatment by her mother, MGM, and her 3 handlers was unreal!!! The movies about her life barely scratch the surface.
Who was your grandma? What she play in?
I never noticed before that RDJ actually does look something like Charlie Chaplin.
Loretta's daughter in law said she claimed the relationship was not consensual, but according onto Judy they were in love and had an affair.
Yes! 😳🙄 Great Video Until The Last Item.
From What I Remember 🤔( A Long Time Ago ) Clark Gable Wanted To Marry Loretta Young , ( After He Got Her Pregnant. )
But Loretta Young Said No.
So They Kept The Identity Of The Daughter ( Judy ) A Secret.
From All Accounts Clark Gable And Loretta Young Were Very Much In Love.
But Unfortunately Loretta Young Did Not Want To Marry Clark.
That's kind of true. According to Judy Loretta told her one of her life regrets was that she never married Clark. He was still married though and she was very worried about the effect on both their careers so she told him no when he wanted to be together.
@@cdonorab I Looked This Up On Google.
And Google Did Not 🚫 Mention Whether Clark Gable Was Married To Another Woman When Clark Gable And Loretta Young Were Making A Movie 🎥 Together , In 1935.
But Google Did Mention That Clark Gable Was Married Several Different Times.
So I 🤔 Assumed That Clark Gable Was Married When Clark Gable And Loretta Young Were Lovers.
I Assume That Clark Gable Was An Honorable Man , And Would Divorce His Wife, If He Got Another Woman Pregnant , In Which He Did.
And what do you do with an Allegation made by a third party with all the principles are dead?
@@johnhenryclark911 This Relatively New Habit Of Capitalizing Every Word On Boards Is Dimwitted As Fook.
For the rest of my life, I can’t help but think that poor Judy Garland got done so wrong. They had that young woman doped up on so much speed that there was no way for her to function healthfully not to mention that that damage that they did to her eventually led to her damaging her daughter, and I can only imagine how much more successful both of those women would’ve been had MGM not done everything it did to her, they destroyed Judy Garland
What a couple shitty movies not worth it in the long run the trauma that it did
Louis B Mayer, one of the most ruthless tyrants ever in filmmaking, she had no chance, bless her.
Finally, being awake to catch the drop of a quality MsMojo video.
Thankyou, Ms.
Keep up the great work.
Love your friend across the pond 🇦🇺
Thanks for watching! :)
I researched the story behind Citizen Kane with great interest. I found out what Rosebud meant in real life.
They made A movie about it with leiv schiver
Even though I knew about Chaplin, his pension for young ladies did give me a bit of the ickies. Then again, look at Woody Allen. He disgusts me. His own child?!? I honestly don't support any films he makes and don't even know how he isn't snubbed from Hollywood. Great upload!! 😊
Penchant nor pension.
Soon-Yi Previn was NOT Woody Allen's daughter. She was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow when she was with Andre Previn, hence Soon-Yi's last name. There was a 12-year relationship between Mia Farrow and Woody Allen but it was not a marriage nor nor common-law as they each had separate residences. The fact that they've been married since 1997 says a lot, but it's still creepy from a moral point of view! (For the record, I'm not a Woody Allen fan but I believe in truth and facts.)
True, but Woody and Mia did have adopted children together other than Soon-Yi. He was more father than anything else before he was something else.@@nohandle1028
@@user-fl3im1qy2o A pension for young ladies. I love it!
I wonder if Marlene Dietrich ever saw Madeline Kahn do her parody in Blazing Saddles.
Charles Foster Kane was mostly modeled after Hearst,but also several other people.One was a utility magnate who built an opera house for his singer wife.
Dietrich reportedly had a great sense of humor so I bet that she would have loved it.
Riefenstahl was a great film-maker and probably the best film editor who ever lived. It is so sad that she got taken in by Hilter in her youth like the rest of her nation did. She repudiated him later but her "Triumph of the Will" helped to bring him to power and she paid dearly for it for the rest of her life. I so wish her talent had blossomed somewhere else. We might have gotten some great films.
‘Triumph’ was filmed and released after the Nazi takeover.
She was responsible for creating and perfecting documentary techniques that are still standard and commonplace in sports broadcasting to this day. Her innovations still live on in Olympic Games broadcasting even now. It's such a shame we'll never get to see what she could have done if she was lucky enough to be born somewhere else instead.
Okay, I knew partly about # 1, but I'm upset to learn Clark Gable was a rapist. That man had everything going good for him in his life, what the hell 🤦 🤷 Clark?!
It makes so much more sense now that Loretta probably sought to protect herself and her child as best she could.
May they all rest in peace ✌️
My cousin Linda Darnell was a victim of Hollywood BS but her roles dried up because she wouldn't couch hop so to speak but I respect her more for that tbh... but Hollywood said some crap about her over the years deflecting blame off them like they're known for but I know the truth about her from my grandpa and his dad who knew her and grew up with her
@5:45 There's no such thing as an underage sex "partner" - a child cannot consent to being raped - grow up - this is disgusting
Leni Riefenstahl was a visionary filmmaker. Without her filmmaking would be different today.
She invented fly by filming and the camera crane. Yes it was done, to film the Reichsparteitag in Nurmberg, however the ideas happend to be genius.
$1 million dollars was a lot then! Nice change today as well.
Yea Liza Minnelli was on think arcenio hall and she talked about how her mom was treated and then said Hollywood ruined her
You know the two Oscar-winning actresses that had the estrangement you know anyone that’s been a sibling knows it’s not easy to be a sibling and it’s certainly not easy to be a sister especially when you’re both competitive people who both want the same dream Hollywood exploited those two women and drove them apart
Citizen Kane was a great movie. I’ve been to Heast Castle a few times. It’s so remote and for the time it was a masterful feat to get it built. One guide said that Hearst “raped” Europe of so many fire places, bits and bobs of castles. His collection was so huge, when he wanted a piece, he discovered he already had it in storage. If you’re ever in California, it’s a good experience…he was a terrible man with all the yellow journalism. He couldn’t marry Marion Davies because his Catholic wife wouldn’t give him a divorce. She created the UCLA Marion Davies Children Center and after many years, it’s now The UCLA Mattel Children’s Hospital after a large donation by Mattel, Inc.
"Mar-leen" Dietrich. GIRL. It's "Mar-lay-nuh". Jesus Christ, you sound like Buzzfeed.
That it wasn’t consensual WOW
Walt Disney himself inviting a German filmaker is what shocked me the most. Have a happy thursday morning, Kirsten. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
I bet Marlene did that! She was one of the few Hollywood stars at the time that was able to dub her own characters like in 6-7 different languages, makes sense to me.
It’s also well known that Orson Wells and Hearst had a very tumultuous relationship. They weren’t friends, but they also weren’t enemies that you were out in Cali and get a chance to be near San Luis Obispo. You should definitely go see William Randolph, hurst Castle
The gossip columnists sound like journalists today; Perks from studios.
It’s crazy how much Anne Heche and Peg Entwisle looked alike
"Marleeeen..."
Marlene.. Marlene.. Your eyes sparkle, while your diamonds shine.. And I think I'm falling.. For a goldmine..
I’ve been to “heart’s castle” and it was def him that citizen Kane was based on
No wire hangers ever!!!!!
You forgot about Joan Crawford. Her daughter had wrote mommy dearest on how bad she was abused by her mom which led to a great movie. And she believed her and her brother were really Joan Crawford kids and not adopted. And I think she said she thinks she may have been Clark gables but not sure on that pat. But her brother had not been on her side cuz he had said that their mother was not abusive. So it was the daughter had said their mother was abusive to her. Don't know if the boy was treated that way or not cuz he said it never happened.
A lot of people think that Christina's account is not really credible.
There is an episode of the Phil Donahue show from 1989 you can find in yt. In that interview Lana Turner's daughter, Cheryl Crane, stated that her mother said that she and a lot of other people in Hollywood knew that Joan Crawford abused Christina.
@@lizzysixx4386 I will have to find that. Thanks Lizzy!
The Oscars are too commercial. Is it really for the art of cinema?
No
True. So many of the so called best picture winners are actually really bad.
Since 2016 they have been decided upon the lines of DEI.
They used to be (mainly because they were created to "keep the actors in check" and so the critiques were higher)
The Oscars is all about politics now!
I don't think that my comment was clear enough, Loretta Young's daughter, Judy, wrote a book about her parentage, not her mother.
Feel sorry for Judy ❤
"If you're on your phone, make sure you turn on notifications."
ew, gurl, no.
It's "Mar-LAY-nah" Dietrich. Not "Mar-LEEN". Sheesh.
I am a relative of peg entwisle on my mother's side of the family.
Hell is lined up with old Hollywood figures.
Hollywood straight up mur'drd Judy Garland. She never stood a chance! Her childhood was given away to the studios and thats all she ever knew. And they killed her to get their cash cow. Awful. Im glad she had her children, someone to love and be loved by in this life. She deserved that much.
Also, you owe Clark Gable a huge apology! Any decent research would prove they had a CONSENSUAL affair on the set of a movie. Thats the kind of awful gossip that keeps me from giving any likes or from subscribing. Taking this as constructive criticism will hopefully help improve your research and the information you choose to dispel. Js. You did good on most of these outside of pronunciation, but you did Gable WRONG and I think you owe an apology. Her story changed after he passed away and couldnt defend himself. Shame!
Correction to the # 1 on the list: Ms. Lorretta Young wasn't the one who said she was "r/d". Her daughter-in-law waited to expose Ms. Young's "secret" to the world until EVERYONE who could and would refute it was dead including Young & Gable's daughter which makes my skin crawl. Hell, the more I read about her and Gable's affair and how religious Ms. Young was the more I believe that Ms. Young accused him of date/r/d thinking that would absolve her of her sin of having an affair with a married man, having a child out of wedlock, LYING to that child about you adopting her until she was 31 years old when the adult child confronts you about the affair & the lies about her parentage, including her MOTHER, AND calling your own child to their face "a walking mortal sin" as if the product of the sinners is the sin! NO, honey, it doesn't work like that! You do not get call a BABY a sinner because you had an affair with a married man and you were ashamed of yourself and knew you couldn't get into Heaven. Well, LYING to your child for 31 years about you being their adoptive mother instead of their BIRTH mother is just freaking rich. I honestly wouldn't believe Ms. Young and her claims to be honest. It truly sounded like she was ashamed of her child and that the child was the sinner but not the grownass adults who goofed around and had her.
At first, I thought she loved her kid by all of the hoops, she jumped through to hide the pregnancy and to "adopt" her own child to keep up the ruse. However, I expected that the mother would be telling the child of the truth at around the age of 10 when children understand how to keep secrets. Judy, Ms. Young's daughter, found out that her adoptive mother was actually her birth mother by someone she was dating when she was 31 years old and she confronted her mother with the news. Then Ms. Young has the audacity to call Judy "a walking mortal sin", taking ZERO accountability for her own actions and her own affair.
The daughter-in-law/sister-in-law waited until Judy died before spreading the news that Young was r/d by Gable, saying that Young didn't want Judy to be hurt by finding out that part. I find that really hard to buy after Ms. Young called her daughter a 'mortal sin'. Shameful. It honestly sounds like Ms. Young thought blaming Gable, who couldn't defend himself because he'd been dead, and changing their "affair" (her description of their time together). Oh...let's not forget the fact that Ms. Young had a reputation...nay....an actual history of falling in love with her leading man while on set, making her accusations even harder to buy. (I'm not saying it didn't happen. I am saying that it's really hard to believe with some any flaws and the fact that the sister-in-law decided to expose the family's secrets YEARS after the last person who could've refuted the claims died. Just a bit sus to me. It's only my opinion. I'm not saying it didn't happen.)
It was consentual.
You can be in love with someone and still be r@ped by them. Sometimes, it can take time to process that you've been r@ped, especially if it's by someone you love. You cannot say one way or another if this happened. You weren't there. 3rd party accounts don't matter either. No one would have thought my last ex would have been capable, and yet he attempted to SA me at night when we would go to bed, so much so I now have insomnia from staying awake long past him falling asleep.
This was factually wrong. Loretta Young had a consensual affair with Gable when they were filming Call of the Wild in the mountains. Supposedly Young told a female relative that late in life she saw something on TV and realized she had been date raped. This is pure hearsay, since both Young and Gable were dead when this poisonous story was released. They were screwing aroung up in the mountains filming Call of the Wild. Look-Gable was no choir boy but neither was Young. She also had a hot affair with Spencer Tracy. Of course, now there’s a ridiculous story that both Tracy and Hepburn were closeted gays.
Clark Gable did not SA that woman. They had an affair and she got pregnant.🤷🏾♀️
That woman was his daughter
Were you there?
@@jamieevans1387um no. That woman was Loretta Young.
@@Kc1304_ Fun Fact: Dinosaurs roamed the earth for 165 million years. Reaction: "How do you know? Were you there?" So innocent, so special needs, I love it!
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Great Video Until The Last Item.
For All Practical Purposes , ( As Far As I Know. ) Clark Gable And Loretta Young Making Love Was Consentual.
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That’s a poor choice of words to say that Peg Entwistle made her jump to films (from stage)
Knowing Hollyweird...None surprise me!
Get Dietrich’s name right!!!
Insurance or performance bond? Probably made with a Lloyds Names broker.
I admire this channel, but this one is weak sauce for anyone with even a middling knowledge of Hollywood history. Do a part 2, and go much, much deeper. Start with Spencer Tracy's homosexuality, Katharine Hepburn's homosexuality, Charles Laughton's scat proclivities, George Reeves' death, Carole Landis' death, LB Mayer's hit and run, Walter Brennan's virulent racism and his end-of-days ranch, Bing Crosby's virulent alcoholism, or just about anything from the files of the MGM fixer Eddie Mannix....
My grandmother live on Balboa Island, and as kids they used to swim around the boats. She said Errol Flynn would throw cigarette butts at them. She and her friends went to the small island where James Cagney lived, and he gave them a tour. She said he was very nice, and kind. A real gentleman.
I thought it was just me! 😏
Don't forget Dean Martin's constant alcoholism, he was one of the biggest drunks hollywood has ever known
You make all of these sound way more insidious than they really are. Plus, i heard all these "rumors " years ago. They're not earth shattering.
Please learn how to pronounce people's names. Her name was Leni not Lainey
It’s not “Mar-leen” is “Mar-lay-neh” Dietrich
Former Pittsburgh Steelers football (soccer, to the Brits) player Troy Palamalu has his long curly hair insured - at least, he did shortly aftee retiring from football about a decade ago.
I always knew Chaplin was bad news
So was TINA ❤
Charlie Chaplins courting of younger women is well documented. However, I was not aware Clark Gable’s.
"courting"? didn't think they had computers in the Victorian era
@@SpamEggSausage what do you mean 😂😂
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"Unfortunately, the encounter with Gable that resulted in Young's pregnancy with Lewis was not consensual." That's one hell of a convoluted way to say that Gable raped Young. If it's rape, say it's rape. Stop with the euphemisms!
Turned the video off the third time you mispronounced Marlene Dietrich's name.
Loetta young was smart
pretty dreary and nothing new here
I heard a rumor that Rock Hudson might have been gay, but I don't think that it's true.
not funny...
Nooo!!
Cause he was gay. Duh. Look him up since you obviously don’t know
@@Tomboyy9818It's a joke grumpy.
@@Tomboyy9818 You fell for it. So gullible.
It's pronounced Marlain-ah Deitrick, not Marlene.
Got any others?
This was a strange video
a strict catholic having pre-marriage sex with a known ladies man, knowing she was risking her career and reputation.......yeah ok, she wasnt catholic in the slighest. if she were, she wouldnt be doing all that on top of lying and deceving.
The sexual urge is very powerful. Just ask some priests.
Im really not surprised about anything to do with walt disney or his trash dynasty
Dwarfs
Really the Oscars broke away, so you need to tell me that they have a fucking beauty for actors because SAG ain’t doing shit for them. I mean you saw how easy it was for Hollywood to get those riders back to work. Do you think they’d be able to do anything without their actors? Do you think they’re ever gonna let their actors have a union? oh hell no because look at what the writers were able to imagine if the actual talent could do that.
That's not how you pronounce "Marlene"
'Mah-Wayne-A' according to BaBa WahWah
The oscars is a joke
So boring, How many times will you'll release the same video, Old Hollywood is so fascinating and compelling, Imagine thinking you're breaking news by talking about Clark Gable and Loretta Young having an affair and child in 2024 for the millionth time, Both those actors are far more interesting than your channel regulars will know. Such a pity.
You beat me to it with your comment. How many times will they recycle the same or similar content under slightly different titles? Think "Top 10 Dark Truths About Old Hollywood," "Top 10 Biggest Old Hollywood Scandals," or "Top 20 Dark Truths About Classic Hollywood Actors." Time for them to come up with some new ideas.
lol “Laney”?! Leni! So much incorrect pronunciation lately in these countdowns.
I don’t get the hype behind citizen kane. So boring.
I thought "Rosebud" was his asshole.
Right off the bat i'm put off believing anything you might say because you mispronounce the 1st person's name wrong: the final "e" is pronounced in Marlene.
It's a Small World tells you all you need to know about Walt Disney's fascism...
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I'm sorry, but when the very first segment mispronounced Marlene Dietrich's first name, I stopped watching.
They race swapped Peg Entwisle?!! 😑 Did they really have to do that?
That wss dumb.
It's Netflix, So yes! They did the same thing to Cleopatra who was Greek.
Jesus Christ is coming back soon
Boooohooooo nobody asked them to go to Hollywood get a real job life is hard wear a helmet
MarlayNAH! Dietrich
My great great uncle's death had something to do with moonshine. Going to dig into local newspapers from the time period this month to see if I can find more.
#DisneyDiva ❤
I love Joan Crawford ❤
Love stories about Classic Hollywood. Knew most of these already, but not #4.