On the one hand, I don't want Skeleton Crew to be canceled for poor performance or anything, but I also feel like we're coming up on the end of the story and that it would take a weird stretch or twist to make the story last/find a new story.
Yeah. Does everything need to be an ongoing series? I would be perfectly fine with this being a one-off if they can wrap things nicely in the last episode.
If disney is smart they're not going to be paying attention to the view count they get per episode, rather they should shift their attention to its social media presence which so far has been glowing by every SW fan standards. Even Andor got a Season 2 because Disney/Lucasfilm acknowledges there is a positive feedback from the internet as a whole.
My thoughts exactly. I love the show but like where do we go from here? It seems like we're about to put a bow on this story and wrap it up. So do they end all tied up neatly or on a cliffhanger and go with a contrived bullshit reason for the kids to leave the planet again if there's another season? Honestly it depends on how they chose to end the last episode and who still knows about At Attin.
@@windstormstrike Andor was always going to get a Season 2 unless it bombed. The show was originally pitched as a five-season story, but Tony Gilroy condensed it to two seasons when he was brought onboard and replaced Stephen Schaffer as showrunner, if I recall correctly.
@@windstormstrike I do not think you have a good understanding of how money works with film projects my friend. Disney is a business, not a fan club. Praise on social media is not a direct trade off of sales. At most, it convinces 1 in every 10 people to try a show out. I will agree on the concept that a stronger open connection to their fans and engagement with us would be appreciated, but that is not where the money is. Investors, Views, Watch Times, Ad Rev. - This is where the money is. And as someone else pointed out, Andor was slated for 2 seasons from the beginning. that is not a byproduct of Social Media loving the show. That was set in stone on the condition the show did not fail.
i like how the lightning generating platforms look like giant jellyfish, keeping with the nautical theme of the whole series. like they are descending into the deepest depths.
Also just realised Jods Jacket has Naval captain stripes on the Cuffs of the Jacket and on his epaulettes. Something small but a very nice and funny touch.
@@jameswg13Also his helmet is just a cool futuristic pirate hat! It’s literally a tricorn and has a pill shape in the front that evokes the fold of the hat tips… you’ll see what I mean when you look at it. It has all sorts of details that scream pirate hat, but sort of tweaked and adjusted to fit the sleek design of a space helmet.
People were like "how could kids show exist in same universe as gritty Andor". Ironicaly, this is SW show that is closest to Andor. Because it characters are actual people, with layers, sometimes conflicted motives etc. Not just tropes that do what plot requires them to do (Looking at you Sabine)
Honestly I really like the idea of both existing in the same universe. The world is complex and this fictional universe should reflect that. It really makes it feel richer.
"Andor" also takes place in a different time than "Skeleton Crew". During the height of the Empire things would have been very different for the kids. Basically it's the difference between Europe in the 1930s and in the 50s.
Hey, don't hate on my girl Sabine. She got plenty dirt kicked in her face in Rebels. It was nice seeing her in a more mature, if still boundary-pushing, place.
@@gloriouslumi Her stupid decision in Ashoka are singlegandedly responsible for unleashing Thrawn back on the galaxy. But I dont hate her per say, I hate writing of that show in general
Something the At-Attin security droid said as they were going down to the vault reminded me of what that female alien said to Obi Wan on Kamino about the clones
When the kids said, “We’re just kids!!!” Jod should have said, “We were all kids once…” to suggest that he survived Order 66. Missed opportunity if you ask me.
Captain Silvo is Long John SIlver (It's even in the name: Silvo = Silver). He's a pirate, hungry for treasure. He'll come close to killing the kids, but stop short, take the treasure, escape the authorities, and in the process toss Wim the lightsaber and said, go chase your dreams me matey, Yarrr! as he sails off in the sunset with all the treasure.
A moment of silent appreciation for the work that Jude Law’s putting in. It reminds me of Michael Caine’s mentality when making Muppet Christmas Carol: just ignore the fact that you’re playing to goofy creatures and absurd circumstances, and play it as straight as you possibly can. Everything Jod does has a feeling of ache and longing to it; even in his moment of triumph with the pile of credits, he has this childlike pain and vulnerability in his face, like he can’t really trust the fact that he might actually sate that hunger he monologued about. It’s a fascinating performance for a genre show, and I don’t think you’re reading too much into it either the analysis at all, here.
@@gloriouslumi I didn't care for Rebels nearly as much as The Clone Wars. It was OK. I am still keeping my eye on Ahsoka with _hope._ I'm eager for more Andor. But as stated, SC just has the right _feel_ for a change. I can't really describe it, I just know I like it.
Remember, Jod may well not turn out to be a “scoundrel with a heart” like Han Solo or Lando Calrissian or Dash Rendar or Talon Karrde. He’s a bloody pirate! For the last three and a half decades, Star Wars has clearly delineated between the redeemable smugglers and bounty hunters and the truly evil pirates and slavers. So Jod’s “heel turn” in this episode was a stark reminder that pirates, at least in the Star Wars universe, are never to be trusted.
Please Disney make Jod evil and rotten to the core! Pretty please! Like "oh, the Sith were kinda moderate" and "Palpatine wasn't that bad" kinda evil ;)
I agree, even Hondo at times couldn't fully be trusted. Though at least he usually always had the heart in the right spot, at least after the events of Grievous trashing his whole place.
@@TheTrytix Hondo is like Jack Sparrow, unpredictable and not to be trusted but generally honorable and surprisingly well with kids. Jod is like Long John Silver or Captain Hook, manipulative, desperate and cold hearted, and is the big scary adult that stands as a boogeyman to tear down the kids innocence.
What I’m really impressed by in both this show and in Andor is that they make us root for a character who isn’t really deserving of it when all signs point to their true nature. In Andor it’s because Dedra’s struggles feel so real and in here it’s because Jod seems like this cool pirate. And then when their obvious true colors are shown it leaves the audience disgusted with themselves. Wish more shows attempted this.
I see why some people were cheering on Dedra, but I always knew she was a super evil Imperial loyalist. I actually felt more for Cyril Karne since he was investigating the murder of his co-workers. In an another show, he would be the protagonist. He was just incompetent.
Well yeah I can see that. Point is though that even the imperials feel like people because of their struggles and actions, which actually makes them feel more evil. And I’d say Syril’s not great either since he gladly supports the empire even if he doesn’t actually work for them directly.
I wouldn't say I cheered for Deirdre or Cyril but I totally understand their motivations and could empathize from that sense. I think that makes them feel like real characters and not just caricatures of villains
It makes me so sad that this show will most likely never get the push from Disney due to the Acolytes failures. This show has exceeded my expectations and more.
I saw one comment similar to this down below, but the scene where Jod is yelling at the kids on the ship and calling them weak and spoiled, I got kind of a touchy character arc vibe, like where the kids are in his mind is where he was years before (which might have even been the catalyst for him possibly running away from that life and ending up as a pirate scoundrel). Definitely gave me a “wounded kid from a disappointed parent” vibe.
Not sure if anyone has also had this theory but wouldn’t it be neat if Jod ended up being a clone of palatine? Like maybe not Rays dad or anything, but an early clone that was weaker. with the force and defected, went on the run and became a pirate.
His allusions to not growing up “on an At Attin” definitely seeded that interpretation. The result of growing up in want and need, and resenting the vulnerability of children because they remind the victim of the time when they themselves were helpless. It’s pretty heady for a kid’s show, but handled sublimely.
@@sonicmoviefan063ez8 I hope not, I'd hate for it to be connected to the skywalker saga again. My bet is that he is a youngling that somehow made it out alive hence why he knows what a lightsaber is and how to use it and also his force powers which seem to be at early training stages.
The line in that scene you highlighted that caught my attention most is when he calls the kids sheltered, spoiled, privileged, things like that. Whether he's an Order 66 survivor or just a Force sensitive who's always been on the run his whole life, he's clearly been living in poverty for most of his life, heck that was also the sense I got from his "hungry" speech last episode. He probably sees these kids who grew up on this secret planet of unimaginable wealth with comfortable lives and resents that he never could have had a life like that, where he never had to worry about things like wealth and having a place to stay.
i love how the show makes viewers crave for Jod's heroic protagonist moment of garnering sympathy for the kids and siding with them... dangling that carrot with invisible magnets or strings.
It probably won't come until the end. Or at least late in the show's run. His names, Jod and Silvo, are an obvious nod to Long John Silver. In Treasure Island Silver starts a bit of a roguish mentor for Jim Hawkins, the young protagonist, then turns antagonist following his role as a ringleader of a mutiny, and then late in the story swaps sides again with him helping save Jim from the other pirates. The story ends with Silver a prisoner but Jim allowing to escape on a rowboat with a cut of the treasure. I'd be on Jod getting a similar arc.
I'll just say in Episode 3 when Jod was trying to rush the kids aboard the ship before getting arrested on the moon, he had a single honest moment about him being alone in the galaxy like them...not charismatically choreographed like his pirate speeches, it was absolutely desperate. I love how he's a cut-throat through & through, Jude Law and the writers made sure he walked the walked, but I think there will be a moment of redemption for him in the end.
I find it very amusing that this planet of unfathomable treasures has a bunch of security measures (the barrier, restricting communication, etc) and the stopping point for it all allows any Joe Shmoe to be like "Uh yeah. I'm the Emissary."
I'm angry right now at Jod for truly turning against the kids/Disney for taking that direction, but.... it's genius! That move elevates the kids & gives them the utmost "gravity". It's all on them now. It has sucked me in big time, emotions and all. Episode 6 was unsatisfying, but I realize why it was done and that it will likely make more sense after the finale. Episode 7 was phenomenal. Even if Jod has a change of heart in 8, he's done too much for legit redemption. Go, kids! Save the day!
I thought the same about Reva in "Kenobi", so let's see about that... The thing I like about it is: For once Jod takes the children serious. They have thwarted him one too many times by now, and him jumping in their faces might have to do with being angry about himself for underestimating them. Paired with the knowledge that he is so close to achieving his ultimate goal, he would have none of the kids ruin it for him again.
@@SwordmasterKane Good insight.👍 Contrary to many opinions, I actually liked Reva, but had the benefit of knowing she was "bad" right from the start, hoping she may have a change of heart. Jod I bought as just a guy trying to get by who begrudging at first takes a liking to the kids and ultimately helps them, but then betrays them and us. I am not a fan of those who turn away from good and don't foresee any redemption for that. Granted, SW was built on Anakin's fall and redemption, plus I still appreciate Ventress and Offee's turn away from serving the Sith & Empire.
As a parent of 3 young children, when Jod yelled at the kids and said "I have a headache and need some time to think" I could totally relate. It's not the kids fault (both on the show and in my real life) but sometimes you really do just a minute to gather yourself.
Yeah but I don’t think he cared one way or another about the morality of it. I think the idea Ecks is getting at is that his adventure with the kids has made him start to think about morality a little more.
There's a huge difference between hurting other adults in your work, and hurting children out of greed and desperation. He's starting to do the latter and he's smart and self-aware enough to realize that he's now crossing a line few come back from.
Jod saved the children (and himself) by killing Brutus. He's merciless and reckless but not absolutely evil to kill innocent children. We're supposed to think he'll pull an Anakin with that cliffhanger but he obviously won't. He'll take them hostage in order to leave the planet savely with the credits. Kudos to Jude Law for elevating the character.
Jod, if that's even his real name, is a pirate. He will not be redeemed. He held a knife to a kid's throat. You don't come back from that. He kept up a good act for the first half of the series, but now his mask is off. I don't want him to be redeemed. I don't want his backstory. Less is more. This series is good. I hope they come up with a good way to defeat the pirates.
Honestly, it’s been so great to be excited for Star Wars. I hope Disney keeps it up because I want to see more of these kind of stories filled with wonder and excitement
I know there were rumors of a season 2, but I don't know if we need one to be honest. This show has been wonderful so far, tonight's episode especially, easily some of the most well crafted SW tv. I guess it depends on how they end the next ep, like where else would the kids go from here? Seems like this is a wrap from what we got. I love what they did with Jod in this episode, this is basically what I was hoping for the whole time: no order 66/former padawan, just some dude that figured out he could levitate shit. His handling of the lightsaber so far doesn't really show that he knows any of the forms, I was really worried he'd do some PT swordsmanship. I also don't necessarily think we need his backstory but I won't complain if we get it. It's pretty clear he hasn't been using mind tricks at all after this one as well, he had plenty of opportunities. I'm undecided on where he winds up at the end though, they could still pull some heart of gold bullshit but he is a conman pirate lord. I gotta say the Brutus part was just perfect writing, hell all of Jod's screen time was A+. That's a fucking good character.
If Jod is a Jedi, and rhst seems to be past questioning at this point, then I don't want him redeemed. He's a pirate, wallowing in violence and selfishness. You can't live that life and not fall to the dark side, and once the dark side gets its claws in, it takes more than a few kids he's known for a week or so to pull him out.
Judd Law is just an awesome actor. Its going to come out that he was a child soldier or in training and survived order 66 and has major PTSD. Remember during the clone wars and revenge of the sith the jedi had straight up child soldiers. He probably hasn't met kids this naive and innocent in a long time.
Think you missed the point of the “we’re just kids…can’t do this to us” He was probably a padawan who thanks to Acolyte was maliciously stolen and then was order 66ed while also still a kid.
This was a fun light hearted show to introduce my son to Star Wars. The other shows and movies are just too much just yet. I'm glad that there are stories like this that can be told in a massive universe.
My feeling is that Jod is not a good guy but he is not evil. I mean fully evil. In this episode the kids are no longer a help in finding the treasures he dream of. They are rather a hindrance (they can give him away). And still he does not harm them even in the the bout of blind anger we are witnessing.
Loving the show; in particular the mystery. My personal theory: the Supervisor is the legendary pirate captain whose name escapes me at the moment (anyone please help me). Narratively it explains the reason why his log was garbled and we could not see his face/features; similarly why the Supervisor is also unseen. Finally, why neither character (as far as I could see) is credited on IMDB (not great evidence, but still).
I like that theory. But I definitely think the Supervisor is a droid or AI type thing. Jod saying he was tired of dealing with droids and wanted to see the supervisor was a subtle hint that the supervisor is actually a droid
Wouldn't make sense tho. He seemingly didn't use the wealth of the mint and welcomed the ship to At Attin that he would have known was impossible since the Republic is long gone.
Regarding 'pirate fighters'. I'd love to see some 'Uglies' from the X-Wing series. The idea is pirate and smuggler groups don't have the resources to purchase new fighters, so they make do. Purchase salvage and cobble it together to make it work. Mostly. X-Wing fuselages with TIE wings. That sort of thing. And even though Rogue Squadron are the best of the best, they're always wary about going up against Uglies because they often end up performing better than they have any right to and can surprise you with some random ability someone cobbled together.
That's why I bought the Lego X-Wing Tie Fighter Mashup - it seemed like a nod to the Uglies in Legends. I also bought the Dark Falcon, because it reminded me of the black paint job Han gave the Millennium Falcon in the New Jedi Order
They haven’t given Jod any background as yet to be making all these kinds of assumptions. Maybe in the finale. Every story needs and antagonist and the wolf is dead.
I am willing to bet when next weeks episode starts, the parents are not actually being intimidated completely instead they are just awe struck that the "republic emissary" is actually a real jedi and start to praise him and thank him for rescuing their children. Which jod's ego will be stroked and will play on said scenario while giving knowing looks towards the kids until he can figure out a way to communicate to the other pirates.
Agreed, or Jod is going to play it up like he is a Jedi and that he rescued the children. By the way he wields a lightsaber I don't think he was/is a jedi. I am still undecided as to if he is a force user or using some sort of device usage.
I am afraid that Jod will get a stupid redemption arc like Reva in "Kenobi". But on the other hand, he has reached his goal and even held his end of the bargain with the children - after all, they are back home and reunited with their families. He would deserve a reward for that. So if he loads up the ship with credits and leaves again, everybode wins.
His reaction to the kids with their parents (jealous, wistfulness, awkward) and his stunted empathy, his speil about being hungry etc, makes it seem that his childhood had been cut short and he has been alone and in survival mode for a very long time. I get the feeling he lost his parents, due to being taken by the Jedi or some other reason. Being loved by his crew seems important to him, maybe he was trying to create a family without any idea of how to. I do feel there is potential for him to changes side, if he sees the planet and realises he wants that sense of connection for himself or just to preserve it for others. I’d certainly be interested if he was kicked out of the Jedi, lost his Master to something other than Order 66 and was accidentially abandoned by the Jedi - it would make an interesting change to see someone who had been failed by the Jedi. Ahsoka was but she still had Anakin fighting for her so still had some positive connection to them (at least until the Darth situation!) and left voluntarily in the end. I wouldn’t be unhappy though if he just continued on his piratey ways.
Disney Starwars always works when the exes dont know who the characters are. Solo sucked, they know who he is, micromanaged Sequel Trilogy: It was their pet project, of course theyd micromanage it to death. Book Of Boba Fett:Same as Soio. Mandolorian: Only started declining in quality when execs realized how marketable Baby Yoda plushies are (They still dont know Grogu's name.) Star Wars has always been better when talent is left alone to tell fun stories.
Mando season 3 was absolutely depressing, as was watching them undo 2 seasons worth of storytelling in a handful of Boba episodes. It always seemed obvious Din would return Grogu to either his own species or a jedi, so for them to literally walk that back while simultaneously portraying Luke a rigid dogmatic jedi in the process was frustrating. The narrative led straight to that for 2 seasons, with a few filler episodes. It was ALWAYS what the series was building towards. I will explain the Luke point. Prequel jedi preached attachment as an evil that led to the dark side. Echoed by Yoda and Obi-Wan in the original trilogy, encouraging Luke to abandon his friends for the sake of training. Ultimately all of the training they gave Luke did nothing to save him from the Emperor, it was his efforts to reach out to his father, his attachment to him. Luke essentially won by choosing attachment. If he had done as Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted, and faced down Vader the moment he turned himself in, the Emperor likely survives Return of the Jedi (discounting that he "survived" through cloning in both canons). Instead he encouraged him to turn away and save himself because he didn't give up on him. They even reference this in TLJ with Luke saying he "became a legend" for believing in Vader when no one else did. It was frustrating to watch him essentially throw all that out and tell Grogu he could either have a bond with Din Djarin or become a jedi, as if he hadn't had both himself. He forced a choice on Grogu he was exempt from making, still having a bond with Leia, Han, Chewy, R2, etc until his school failed. The obvious reason they put Luke in that narrow-minded viewpoint that better suits a prequel jedi is what you said, they needed an excuse to force Grogu back into the narrative at the expense of logic. But man was it brutal.
@@Korijenkins1414 That's not what happened in the OT. Yoda told Luke to go into the Dark Side cave without a weapon. Luke, who hated being told to learn meditation and oneness and wanted to learn to kill, ignored Yoda and picked up his lightsaber and blaster. Yoda knew Luke would crash out and he and R2 both share a moment of worry. Then Luke has a personal crisis, fights himself as his father, runs off, gets his hand cutoff... ...AND NEVER FINISHES TRAINING. Luke lost because he didn't train. In RotJ, Yoda says the fact he doesn't want to kill means he can save his dad and talk the Emperor down. He's half-right. Yoda was right in the OT. Yoda was always right in the OT. Luke was wrong, then he stopped being an idiot at the last second when he realized Obi-Wan was a douche.
You left out how the "fans" drove the decisions that you are whining about. The role that YOU played. Another word for micromanaging is nitpicking, that those like you have done nonstop for decades.
Jod also saves the kids, Brutus was going to destroy their ship, if Jod hadn't intervened and got the pirates to board the ship they probably would've been killed.
#AskEck Could the New Republic have survived and defeated the Yuuzah Vong without having to become the Galactic Alliance or losing Coruscant? And if so then what could they have done to win earlier on?
I’ll field this one: No chance. Borsk Fey’lya being Chief of State (and the type of government he encouraged) is one of the major forces that made the destruction of the New Republic inevitable and the formation of the GFFA necessary. Take the anti-Jedi sentiment in the New Republic military, the retirement of the Rebellion’s heroes from that military, and the massive corruption that allowed people like Viqi Shesh to take power, combined with the division that Nom Anor was fomenting around the galaxy, and you have a recipe for disaster. Even if you were to pick an earlier time in the New Republic’s brief life, it would be hard to find a time where they actually had the capability of mounting a better defense against the Vong. If you pick any time prior to Ponc Gavrisom’s term as Chief of State, you run into the issue of the New Republic being too bogged down by chasing Imperial warlords or recovering from some galaxy-spanning crisis or other. I think that version of the New Republic would have had the WILL to resist the Vong, but would have lacked the MEANS to actually fend them off-likely resulting in an even more destructive war with a less desirable outcome. Not to mention, at least during the NJO, Pellaeon’s Imperial Remnant was willing to work with the New Republic. Could you imagine if the Vong invaded while the New Republic was still fending off Daala or Thrawn, or besieged by Kueller’s terror attacks on the Senate, or dealing with the Yvetha or Ssi-Ruuvi? It would have made them easy pickings for Shedao Shai or Tsavong Lah’s forces. And if they launched their invasion in the years between Gavrisom’s tenure (considering that the Calibop was not a man of action) and Borsk’s time in the big chair, and you start running into the same issues that led to the New Republic’s collapse.
@ what if leia wasn’t discovered to be Vader’s daughter which will then lead to her being elected to be the next chief of staff would that have helped them?
@@mskywalker0725 In Legends, Leia was actually Chief of State for many years after Mon Mothma stepped down. In fact, Ponc Gavrisom succeeded Leia when she decided to retire from New Republic politics. Leia’s relationship to Darth Vader was not a secret in Legends; she and Luke were open about their parentage and Luke worked to make it known that Vader was responsible for overthrowing the Emperor. It is only in the Disney canon that Leia’s political career was ruined by the secret of her connection to Darth Vader getting out.
The fact I have gone from hoping he’s a good guy by the end to being perfectly fine with him being a villain by the end and I haven’t disliked this show at all during the journey is really impressive. Space goonies is fantastic.
4:05 don't forget, Jod takes a lot of inspiration from Longjohn Silver. If the climax of next episode doesn't involve Jod doing something that causes the other pirates to turn on him in a way that saves the kids, I will be flabbergasted. Extra points if it is unclear wether his motive is greed or a desire to save the kids.
I am so glad you like it, but I guess I'm too old to watch "Goosebumps in space". It reminds me of the movie "the explorers" when the tweens build a space ship to visit an alien kid in space. I just cant get into it.
"Dark" and "Grey" Jedi are a misnomer. They simply do not exist. What people mean when they use those terms is a "Dark" or "Grey" force user. The Jedi have a code and - right or wrong - when that code is broken that person is no longer a member of the Jedi order.
@@RecoveryHackerYet their complacency and being hyper-attached to their code (ironically enough) made them easy prey for the Sith to take over the Republic from under them.
@@RecoveryHacker That's a classic "No True Scotsman" fallacy. He's probably a former Jedi (since he knows how to use a lightsaber, and seems familiar with their dogma about attachments) and he uses his specialized training for dark (selfish) purposes, going so far as to terrorize children and their families in order to get money. Hence, Dark Jedi.
It’s honestly refreshing to see the bad guy stay the bad guy through out the show. While redemption stories are great I honestly feel like the “bad guy with a heart of gold” trope has been overplayed in the recent years of Star Wars. Overall I’ve enjoyed the direction the show has gone although I would’ve liked to see more of the wolf character. Hopefully Star Wars does more pirate stuff in the future
I think it is likely Jod will help the kids and their parents deal with/ confront the Supervisor, it will be for his own benefit but will be will be helpful to everyone in the end.
The "I'm hungry" speech is Jod's turning point. It shows you the tremendous pressure he is under. It is as good as Luthen's monologue in Andor. He is so close to getting everything he has ever wanted, but in taking it he may become a person he never wanted to be.
I hope we get to find out who Jod actually is. I thought there was a crack developing in his character when he was threatening the children on the ship telling them how they’re weak and sheltered. Maybe that’s from his experiences as a padawan, but who knows. Also very interested to see how he plans to get off the planet. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up getting killed. Also interested to see what happens to the planet at large. Can’t imagine the New Republic would be terribly interested in a galaxy’s worth of wealth just popping into existence and having to deal with that mess.
Depending on whether or not the currency of present day is still backed with Iridium or whatever it's called that those credits are made of. If it isn't, look at the USD as an example. It used to be backed by the gold standard, but it hasn't been for roughly 50 years. Gold pretty much always retains it's value on every market, there's a lot of money to be made with gold by weight. The pirates all seem to be enamored by the credits, so it's probably like getting a fat gold bar per credit in our real world if I had to take a stab at it. There's like what 1139 endless vaults of the stuff? That's a lot of precious metal to smelt if that's the route they take, probably not. I forgot. If the New Republic shows up to save the day somehow, I'm willing to bet they keep that planet completely secret. I'm somewhat anticipating at least a couple of X-Wings popping up, we'll have to see where they take this finale.
A way-out-there theory that's not on anyone's bingo card: Wim gets hold of 2 lightsabers, goes all Anakin-on-Dooku and lobs off Jod's head, falls to the dark side, becomes a Sith Lord, but is redeemed in the end when he sacrifices himself to help defeat the Yuuzhan Vong. Now that would be something.
The communication device the parents set up at the start of episode 7 really reminded me of ET's races spaceship in that movie but it wasn't 1 to 1 either.
It would be very cool and fitting to see Hondo Onaka in Skeleton Crew. He should still be alive during the New Republic Era and it should fit well into the show.
Great show. Hope to see much more like this. Feels like they didn't market it right or much at all, but if they keep up this quality level could be promising.
There is another easter egg in character names as well. Jod and Silvo = John Silver. Jod at the moment also appears to be on a similar character arc as Long John Silver, who goes from from being a roguish mentor to Treasure Island's kid protagonist, to a mutineer that betrays him, only in the end to switch sides again and save the kid from the other pirates.
This series is a hit for Disney…I promise we won’t see the last of this. I’ve personally rewatched these 6-7 episodes so many times, I only did that with Mandalorian.
I hope people who want to do a Star Wars are paying attention. Disney has been creating stuff like this all along, however, pushing to get content created for the streaming service is where they've been making the biggest mistakes.
I am surprised how much the kids ended up in danger, it went much different than I expected toward the end. And the last few seconds I thought we were gonna have another Anakin situation.
Hahahahahah. Not sure if you were being serious, or joking, but it gave me a good laugh anyway. I’m fairly certain At Attin has been totally cut off from the rest of the universe since the fall of the Republic - possibly far earlier than that. But I do not know if there is an actual living supervisor, or not. It may all be computer controlled. Don’t forget, many of those “British” Imperials were holdovers from the Republic, and many fought in the Clone wars, for the Republic. Cheers,
I think Jod is a perfect Captain Silver character not all bad, but definitely the villain… who will get away in the end after finding an escape from capture. Perhaps to give a cameo in some future show… or movie :)
I feel like he's not a Jedi, but grew up with the stories of them, perhaps he's just one of the lost children the Jedi never picked up. Not everyone with force abilities needs to be a Jedi or sith
At this point, it would be genuinely revelatory to see a canon character who’s able to wield the Force in very limited fashion, but who ISN’T yet another Order 66 adjacent.
The guy is literally cackling like maniac whilst it rains credits on him before then threatening the kids and their parents… what part of that makes you think there is more than bad/evil in the end of the last episode?
Been a fun show. I don't think it so much as Star Wars more of a Space Goonies. I don't think Jod is a Jedi at all. Think he recognized at a young age he was able to use the force, at most was a VERY young padawan during 66 and survived.
I totally feel the same way as Ecks, this is just such an enjoyable show and it's success I think is how character driven it is, and the sense of fun it has. It doesn't take itself too seriously, but it isn't goofy or feel like a parody, it feels like it fits well and stands well on it's own within the star wars IP. I had super low expectations, but honestly this might be my new favorite Star Wars show and I super hope there is more to come down the road.
the scene where 33 punches jod straight in the face and joins the kids side is probably my favourite scene in the whole show
I busted out laughing.
It's not mine... but it be close enough!!!
I mean, she _did_ call claimsies!
She called UNclaimses. ;) different rule.
@@N8tron97 But it's close enough.
On the one hand, I don't want Skeleton Crew to be canceled for poor performance or anything, but I also feel like we're coming up on the end of the story and that it would take a weird stretch or twist to make the story last/find a new story.
Yeah. Does everything need to be an ongoing series? I would be perfectly fine with this being a one-off if they can wrap things nicely in the last episode.
If disney is smart they're not going to be paying attention to the view count they get per episode, rather they should shift their attention to its social media presence which so far has been glowing by every SW fan standards. Even Andor got a Season 2 because Disney/Lucasfilm acknowledges there is a positive feedback from the internet as a whole.
My thoughts exactly. I love the show but like where do we go from here? It seems like we're about to put a bow on this story and wrap it up. So do they end all tied up neatly or on a cliffhanger and go with a contrived bullshit reason for the kids to leave the planet again if there's another season? Honestly it depends on how they chose to end the last episode and who still knows about At Attin.
@@windstormstrike Andor was always going to get a Season 2 unless it bombed. The show was originally pitched as a five-season story, but Tony Gilroy condensed it to two seasons when he was brought onboard and replaced Stephen Schaffer as showrunner, if I recall correctly.
@@windstormstrike I do not think you have a good understanding of how money works with film projects my friend. Disney is a business, not a fan club. Praise on social media is not a direct trade off of sales. At most, it convinces 1 in every 10 people to try a show out. I will agree on the concept that a stronger open connection to their fans and engagement with us would be appreciated, but that is not where the money is. Investors, Views, Watch Times, Ad Rev. - This is where the money is.
And as someone else pointed out, Andor was slated for 2 seasons from the beginning. that is not a byproduct of Social Media loving the show. That was set in stone on the condition the show did not fail.
i like how the lightning generating platforms look like giant jellyfish, keeping with the nautical theme of the whole series. like they are descending into the deepest depths.
Also just realised Jods Jacket has Naval captain stripes on the Cuffs of the Jacket and on his epaulettes. Something small but a very nice and funny touch.
Cool observation
@@jameswg13Also his helmet is just a cool futuristic pirate hat! It’s literally a tricorn and has a pill shape in the front that evokes the fold of the hat tips… you’ll see what I mean when you look at it. It has all sorts of details that scream pirate hat, but sort of tweaked and adjusted to fit the sleek design of a space helmet.
People were like "how could kids show exist in same universe as gritty Andor". Ironicaly, this is SW show that is closest to Andor. Because it characters are actual people, with layers, sometimes conflicted motives etc. Not just tropes that do what plot requires them to do (Looking at you Sabine)
Well said.
Honestly I really like the idea of both existing in the same universe. The world is complex and this fictional universe should reflect that. It really makes it feel richer.
"Andor" also takes place in a different time than "Skeleton Crew". During the height of the Empire things would have been very different for the kids. Basically it's the difference between Europe in the 1930s and in the 50s.
Hey, don't hate on my girl Sabine. She got plenty dirt kicked in her face in Rebels. It was nice seeing her in a more mature, if still boundary-pushing, place.
@@gloriouslumi Her stupid decision in Ashoka are singlegandedly responsible for unleashing Thrawn back on the galaxy. But I dont hate her per say, I hate writing of that show in general
The episode ending was very similar to "master Skywalker there are too many of them, what are we going to do?"
ACTIVATES LIGHTSABER
Might imply he was a youngling Vader let live.
Something the At-Attin security droid said as they were going down to the vault reminded me of what that female alien said to Obi Wan on Kamino about the clones
When the kids said, “We’re just kids!!!” Jod should have said, “We were all kids once…” to suggest that he survived Order 66. Missed opportunity if you ask me.
@@UpcycleShoesKaiForce Ghost Vader, “Dew it.”
Captain Silvo is Long John SIlver (It's even in the name: Silvo = Silver). He's a pirate, hungry for treasure. He'll come close to killing the kids, but stop short, take the treasure, escape the authorities, and in the process toss Wim the lightsaber and said, go chase your dreams me matey, Yarrr! as he sails off in the sunset with all the treasure.
haha yeah
A moment of silent appreciation for the work that Jude Law’s putting in. It reminds me of Michael Caine’s mentality when making Muppet Christmas Carol: just ignore the fact that you’re playing to goofy creatures and absurd circumstances, and play it as straight as you possibly can.
Everything Jod does has a feeling of ache and longing to it; even in his moment of triumph with the pile of credits, he has this childlike pain and vulnerability in his face, like he can’t really trust the fact that he might actually sate that hunger he monologued about.
It’s a fascinating performance for a genre show, and I don’t think you’re reading too much into it either the analysis at all, here.
Skeleton Crew is the most kid-oriented Star Wars I've ever watched. But it feels more like Star Wars than anything Disney has produced.
Then you should check out Rebels.
@@gloriouslumi I didn't care for Rebels nearly as much as The Clone Wars. It was OK. I am still keeping my eye on Ahsoka with _hope._ I'm eager for more Andor. But as stated, SC just has the right _feel_ for a change. I can't really describe it, I just know I like it.
This is produced by Disney as well you know.
Remember, Jod may well not turn out to be a “scoundrel with a heart” like Han Solo or Lando Calrissian or Dash Rendar or Talon Karrde. He’s a bloody pirate! For the last three and a half decades, Star Wars has clearly delineated between the redeemable smugglers and bounty hunters and the truly evil pirates and slavers. So Jod’s “heel turn” in this episode was a stark reminder that pirates, at least in the Star Wars universe, are never to be trusted.
Please Disney make Jod evil and rotten to the core! Pretty please! Like "oh, the Sith were kinda moderate" and "Palpatine wasn't that bad" kinda evil ;)
I agree, even Hondo at times couldn't fully be trusted. Though at least he usually always had the heart in the right spot, at least after the events of Grievous trashing his whole place.
@@TheTrytix Hondo is like Jack Sparrow, unpredictable and not to be trusted but generally honorable and surprisingly well with kids. Jod is like Long John Silver or Captain Hook, manipulative, desperate and cold hearted, and is the big scary adult that stands as a boogeyman to tear down the kids innocence.
I feel like you've forgotten Hondo, a scumbag Pirate, with his own suave rogue self like Han or Lando.
@ Yes, I did forget about him. 😅 But I’ll just say there’s a carveout for animated shows geared at children … that’s believable, right? 👀
What I’m really impressed by in both this show and in Andor is that they make us root for a character who isn’t really deserving of it when all signs point to their true nature. In Andor it’s because Dedra’s struggles feel so real and in here it’s because Jod seems like this cool pirate. And then when their obvious true colors are shown it leaves the audience disgusted with themselves. Wish more shows attempted this.
I see why some people were cheering on Dedra, but I always knew she was a super evil Imperial loyalist. I actually felt more for Cyril Karne since he was investigating the murder of his co-workers. In an another show, he would be the protagonist. He was just incompetent.
Well yeah I can see that. Point is though that even the imperials feel like people because of their struggles and actions, which actually makes them feel more evil. And I’d say Syril’s not great either since he gladly supports the empire even if he doesn’t actually work for them directly.
I wouldn't say I cheered for Deirdre or Cyril but I totally understand their motivations and could empathize from that sense. I think that makes them feel like real characters and not just caricatures of villains
@@DrBdan8Well said. Vader and Palpatine were more “generally evil” archetypes. Cyril and Dedra were employees doing a job they thought was right.
The werewolf pirate said he was going to kill Jod regardless
Not anymore!
It makes me so sad that this show will most likely never get the push from Disney due to the Acolytes failures. This show has exceeded my expectations and more.
I suppose it can stand on it's own and will find it's fanbase over the years. One Season or more...
One show would not cause that. Stop it. Its many things including money, rating, disney, and the toxic fandom.
I'm sad I waited until the 6th episode dropped before I gave it a chance. Was fun watching it all afternoon though haha.
Toxic Fandom for sure. Eckhart definitely was guilty of that during the Acolyte
......How low were your expectations if Disney trash could exceed them?
I saw one comment similar to this down below, but the scene where Jod is yelling at the kids on the ship and calling them weak and spoiled, I got kind of a touchy character arc vibe, like where the kids are in his mind is where he was years before (which might have even been the catalyst for him possibly running away from that life and ending up as a pirate scoundrel). Definitely gave me a “wounded kid from a disappointed parent” vibe.
Not sure if anyone has also had this theory but wouldn’t it be neat if Jod ended up being a clone of palatine? Like maybe not Rays dad or anything, but an early clone that was weaker. with the force and defected, went on the run and became a pirate.
His allusions to not growing up “on an At Attin” definitely seeded that interpretation. The result of growing up in want and need, and resenting the vulnerability of children because they remind the victim of the time when they themselves were helpless.
It’s pretty heady for a kid’s show, but handled sublimely.
@@sonicmoviefan063ez8 I hope not, I'd hate for it to be connected to the skywalker saga again.
My bet is that he is a youngling that somehow made it out alive hence why he knows what a lightsaber is and how to use it and also his force powers which seem to be at early training stages.
12 seconds is insane, I'm actually loving the show so much
Yea this show is actually amazing and I love it
What do you mean by 12 seconds
The line in that scene you highlighted that caught my attention most is when he calls the kids sheltered, spoiled, privileged, things like that. Whether he's an Order 66 survivor or just a Force sensitive who's always been on the run his whole life, he's clearly been living in poverty for most of his life, heck that was also the sense I got from his "hungry" speech last episode. He probably sees these kids who grew up on this secret planet of unimaginable wealth with comfortable lives and resents that he never could have had a life like that, where he never had to worry about things like wealth and having a place to stay.
I am constantly taken back how great the show looks.
i love how the show makes viewers crave for Jod's heroic protagonist moment of garnering sympathy for the kids and siding with them... dangling that carrot with invisible magnets or strings.
... or repulsor fields xD
It probably won't come until the end. Or at least late in the show's run. His names, Jod and Silvo, are an obvious nod to Long John Silver. In Treasure Island Silver starts a bit of a roguish mentor for Jim Hawkins, the young protagonist, then turns antagonist following his role as a ringleader of a mutiny, and then late in the story swaps sides again with him helping save Jim from the other pirates. The story ends with Silver a prisoner but Jim allowing to escape on a rowboat with a cut of the treasure. I'd be on Jod getting a similar arc.
Jude laws superb acting, production & set design eleveted this series from a kids show to proper STAR WARS
this show got so many likeable characters
I'll just say in Episode 3 when Jod was trying to rush the kids aboard the ship before getting arrested on the moon, he had a single honest moment about him being alone in the galaxy like them...not charismatically choreographed like his pirate speeches, it was absolutely desperate. I love how he's a cut-throat through & through, Jude Law and the writers made sure he walked the walked, but I think there will be a moment of redemption for him in the end.
Christopher Ford and John Watts stated that EP 8 will be longer than 30 some minutes, it'll be in the 40s
Wow, 40s ecnods.
It should be 45 minutes
@@imperatorm.e.l.5162dude you can’t even SPELL seconds
I find it very amusing that this planet of unfathomable treasures has a bunch of security measures (the barrier, restricting communication, etc) and the stopping point for it all allows any Joe Shmoe to be like "Uh yeah. I'm the Emissary."
This show is a masterpiece, it is one of my favorite Star Wars shows to date.
1138 has always been a "magic number" in Star Wars (due to Lucas' first movie) so I liked that the number of vaults was one more than that.
I'm angry right now at Jod for truly turning against the kids/Disney for taking that direction, but.... it's genius! That move elevates the kids & gives them the utmost "gravity". It's all on them now. It has sucked me in big time, emotions and all. Episode 6 was unsatisfying, but I realize why it was done and that it will likely make more sense after the finale. Episode 7 was phenomenal. Even if Jod has a change of heart in 8, he's done too much for legit redemption. Go, kids! Save the day!
They didn't half-A$$ his character :)
I thought the same about Reva in "Kenobi", so let's see about that...
The thing I like about it is: For once Jod takes the children serious. They have thwarted him one too many times by now, and him jumping in their faces might have to do with being angry about himself for underestimating them. Paired with the knowledge that he is so close to achieving his ultimate goal, he would have none of the kids ruin it for him again.
@@SwordmasterKane Good insight.👍 Contrary to many opinions, I actually liked Reva, but had the benefit of knowing she was "bad" right from the start, hoping she may have a change of heart. Jod I bought as just a guy trying to get by who begrudging at first takes a liking to the kids and ultimately helps them, but then betrays them and us. I am not a fan of those who turn away from good and don't foresee any redemption for that. Granted, SW was built on Anakin's fall and redemption, plus I still appreciate Ventress and Offee's turn away from serving the Sith & Empire.
As a parent of 3 young children, when Jod yelled at the kids and said "I have a headache and need some time to think" I could totally relate.
It's not the kids fault (both on the show and in my real life) but sometimes you really do just a minute to gather yourself.
In Jod's defense, Brutus made it clear he plans to kill Jod regardless of outcome of the trip to At Attin. Killing him was self defense.
Not when he was pinned and unable to do anything.
I've enjoyed the show, they need to do more of this. 30 episodes within one galactic year of the larger story of SW
2:14 "he is now realising he has become a bad person". Dude the series started by him killing a lot of innocent people while raiding them.
Yeah but I don’t think he cared one way or another about the morality of it. I think the idea Ecks is getting at is that his adventure with the kids has made him start to think about morality a little more.
There's a huge difference between hurting other adults in your work, and hurting children out of greed and desperation. He's starting to do the latter and he's smart and self-aware enough to realize that he's now crossing a line few come back from.
Jod saved the children (and himself) by killing Brutus. He's merciless and reckless but not absolutely evil to kill innocent children. We're supposed to think he'll pull an Anakin with that cliffhanger but he obviously won't. He'll take them hostage in order to leave the planet savely with the credits. Kudos to Jude Law for elevating the character.
Jod, if that's even his real name, is a pirate. He will not be redeemed. He held a knife to a kid's throat. You don't come back from that. He kept up a good act for the first half of the series, but now his mask is off. I don't want him to be redeemed. I don't want his backstory. Less is more. This series is good. I hope they come up with a good way to defeat the pirates.
Honestly, it’s been so great to be excited for Star Wars. I hope Disney keeps it up because I want to see more of these kind of stories filled with wonder and excitement
I know there were rumors of a season 2, but I don't know if we need one to be honest. This show has been wonderful so far, tonight's episode especially, easily some of the most well crafted SW tv. I guess it depends on how they end the next ep, like where else would the kids go from here? Seems like this is a wrap from what we got.
I love what they did with Jod in this episode, this is basically what I was hoping for the whole time: no order 66/former padawan, just some dude that figured out he could levitate shit.
His handling of the lightsaber so far doesn't really show that he knows any of the forms, I was really worried he'd do some PT swordsmanship. I also don't necessarily think we need his backstory but I won't complain if we get it. It's pretty clear he hasn't been using mind tricks at all after this one as well, he had plenty of opportunities. I'm undecided on where he winds up at the end though, they could still pull some heart of gold bullshit but he is a conman pirate lord. I gotta say the Brutus part was just perfect writing, hell all of Jod's screen time was A+. That's a fucking good character.
If Jod is a Jedi, and rhst seems to be past questioning at this point, then I don't want him redeemed. He's a pirate, wallowing in violence and selfishness. You can't live that life and not fall to the dark side, and once the dark side gets its claws in, it takes more than a few kids he's known for a week or so to pull him out.
Judd Law is just an awesome actor. Its going to come out that he was a child soldier or in training and survived order 66 and has major PTSD. Remember during the clone wars and revenge of the sith the jedi had straight up child soldiers. He probably hasn't met kids this naive and innocent in a long time.
Think you missed the point of the “we’re just kids…can’t do this to us”
He was probably a padawan who thanks to Acolyte was maliciously stolen and then was order 66ed while also still a kid.
Maybe he'll pretend to be a Jedi and lie his way through the parents.
This was a good episode in terms of story, acting and production quality. Skeleton Crew is a good series.
This was a fun light hearted show to introduce my son to Star Wars. The other shows and movies are just too much just yet.
I'm glad that there are stories like this that can be told in a massive universe.
I just realized, did the Onyx’s engines change output color from yellowish to blue?
Huh didn't realize that
Probably because the energy is no longer distributed between 8 engines.
Is this show just a partial attempt at redemption on Disney's behalf for knee capping Treasure Planet all those years ago?
I miss Disney’s hand drawn cel animation. We came close to a revival with The Princess and the Frog and Paperman.
You're not the only one who's asked if Skeleton Crew is a Treasure Planet remake.
ngl but this was my favorite episode
My feeling is that Jod is not a good guy but he is not evil. I mean fully evil. In this episode the kids are no longer a help in finding the treasures he dream of. They are rather a hindrance (they can give him away). And still he does not harm them even in the the bout of blind anger we are witnessing.
Justice for my boy 33 bruh😢
He’s a droid. Body rule doesn’t even matter, they’ll just stick it back on and he’ll be good as new.
Also for Kino Loy. But that ship has sailed i reckon :/
And Brutus, he deserved better.
@@lesigh1749 True. Brutus deserved to be skinned alive, then worn as a cloak by Jod only to be discarded at the first drop of rain ;)
@@peterpain6625 What a randomly weird thing to say.
Loving the show; in particular the mystery. My personal theory: the Supervisor is the legendary pirate captain whose name escapes me at the moment (anyone please help me). Narratively it explains the reason why his log was garbled and we could not see his face/features; similarly why the Supervisor is also unseen. Finally, why neither character (as far as I could see) is credited on IMDB (not great evidence, but still).
Captain Rennod ❤️
I like that theory. But I definitely think the Supervisor is a droid or AI type thing. Jod saying he was tired of dealing with droids and wanted to see the supervisor was a subtle hint that the supervisor is actually a droid
Wouldn't make sense tho. He seemingly didn't use the wealth of the mint and welcomed the ship to At Attin that he would have known was impossible since the Republic is long gone.
@@killingtim2yeah at this point it seems guaranteed to be an AI. Maybe even the big gold ball you see after descending into the hole.
Bro if this comes out as true. Seriously, I hate you !
I love this show so much
Regarding 'pirate fighters'. I'd love to see some 'Uglies' from the X-Wing series.
The idea is pirate and smuggler groups don't have the resources to purchase new fighters, so they make do. Purchase salvage and cobble it together to make it work. Mostly. X-Wing fuselages with TIE wings. That sort of thing. And even though Rogue Squadron are the best of the best, they're always wary about going up against Uglies because they often end up performing better than they have any right to and can surprise you with some random ability someone cobbled together.
That's why I bought the Lego X-Wing Tie Fighter Mashup - it seemed like a nod to the Uglies in Legends. I also bought the Dark Falcon, because it reminded me of the black paint job Han gave the Millennium Falcon in the New Jedi Order
Jod is Gold lust. All this time he wanted a score and now he's so close to make it. Funny how real life situation are similar to this.
I think the lightsaber ignition is a fake out and he’s just introducing himself to the parents as a Republic Jedi in a flashy fashion.
They haven’t given Jod any background as yet to be making all these kinds of assumptions. Maybe in the finale. Every story needs and antagonist and the wolf is dead.
I am willing to bet when next weeks episode starts, the parents are not actually being intimidated completely instead they are just awe struck that the "republic emissary" is actually a real jedi and start to praise him and thank him for rescuing their children. Which jod's ego will be stroked and will play on said scenario while giving knowing looks towards the kids until he can figure out a way to communicate to the other pirates.
This is exactly what I thought.
Agreed, or Jod is going to play it up like he is a Jedi and that he rescued the children. By the way he wields a lightsaber I don't think he was/is a jedi. I am still undecided as to if he is a force user or using some sort of device usage.
Jude’s acting has been phenomenal, particularly in this episode with the ship lightsaber scene and the gold vault scene.
Jod is easily one of the most interesting and complex characters in Disney era Star Wars
I am afraid that Jod will get a stupid redemption arc like Reva in "Kenobi". But on the other hand, he has reached his goal and even held his end of the bargain with the children - after all, they are back home and reunited with their families. He would deserve a reward for that. So if he loads up the ship with credits and leaves again, everybode wins.
The barrier did remind me of the Nihil storm seeds and occlusion zone also
It reminded me of the weapons deployed during Operation Cinder.
Darkening the atmosphere, and bad weather across the planet.
His reaction to the kids with their parents (jealous, wistfulness, awkward) and his stunted empathy, his speil about being hungry etc, makes it seem that his childhood had been cut short and he has been alone and in survival mode for a very long time. I get the feeling he lost his parents, due to being taken by the Jedi or some other reason. Being loved by his crew seems important to him, maybe he was trying to create a family without any idea of how to. I do feel there is potential for him to changes side, if he sees the planet and realises he wants that sense of connection for himself or just to preserve it for others. I’d certainly be interested if he was kicked out of the Jedi, lost his Master to something other than Order 66 and was accidentially abandoned by the Jedi - it would make an interesting change to see someone who had been failed by the Jedi. Ahsoka was but she still had Anakin fighting for her so still had some positive connection to them (at least until the Darth situation!) and left voluntarily in the end.
I wouldn’t be unhappy though if he just continued on his piratey ways.
I'm really liking skeleton crew. I hope it marks a new direction for disney star wars.
I was half watching this out of habbit... but a few episodes in, I was fully paying attention. Now I'm kinda angry there is only one episode left...
Nightfall Anakin must be his hero. “ the younglings killed that day built the foundation of the empire “ 😂
Disney Starwars always works when the exes dont know who the characters are.
Solo sucked, they know who he is, micromanaged
Sequel Trilogy: It was their pet project, of course theyd micromanage it to death.
Book Of Boba Fett:Same as Soio.
Mandolorian: Only started declining in quality when execs realized how marketable Baby Yoda plushies are (They still dont know Grogu's name.)
Star Wars has always been better when talent is left alone to tell fun stories.
Mando season 3 was absolutely depressing, as was watching them undo 2 seasons worth of storytelling in a handful of Boba episodes. It always seemed obvious Din would return Grogu to either his own species or a jedi, so for them to literally walk that back while simultaneously portraying Luke a rigid dogmatic jedi in the process was frustrating. The narrative led straight to that for 2 seasons, with a few filler episodes. It was ALWAYS what the series was building towards.
I will explain the Luke point. Prequel jedi preached attachment as an evil that led to the dark side. Echoed by Yoda and Obi-Wan in the original trilogy, encouraging Luke to abandon his friends for the sake of training. Ultimately all of the training they gave Luke did nothing to save him from the Emperor, it was his efforts to reach out to his father, his attachment to him.
Luke essentially won by choosing attachment. If he had done as Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted, and faced down Vader the moment he turned himself in, the Emperor likely survives Return of the Jedi (discounting that he "survived" through cloning in both canons). Instead he encouraged him to turn away and save himself because he didn't give up on him. They even reference this in TLJ with Luke saying he "became a legend" for believing in Vader when no one else did. It was frustrating to watch him essentially throw all that out and tell Grogu he could either have a bond with Din Djarin or become a jedi, as if he hadn't had both himself. He forced a choice on Grogu he was exempt from making, still having a bond with Leia, Han, Chewy, R2, etc until his school failed.
The obvious reason they put Luke in that narrow-minded viewpoint that better suits a prequel jedi is what you said, they needed an excuse to force Grogu back into the narrative at the expense of logic.
But man was it brutal.
@@Korijenkins1414 That's not what happened in the OT.
Yoda told Luke to go into the Dark Side cave without a weapon. Luke, who hated being told to learn meditation and oneness and wanted to learn to kill, ignored Yoda and picked up his lightsaber and blaster.
Yoda knew Luke would crash out and he and R2 both share a moment of worry.
Then Luke has a personal crisis, fights himself as his father, runs off, gets his hand cutoff...
...AND NEVER FINISHES TRAINING.
Luke lost because he didn't train. In RotJ, Yoda says the fact he doesn't want to kill means he can save his dad and talk the Emperor down.
He's half-right.
Yoda was right in the OT. Yoda was always right in the OT. Luke was wrong, then he stopped being an idiot at the last second when he realized Obi-Wan was a douche.
You left out how the "fans" drove the decisions that you are whining about. The role that YOU played. Another word for micromanaging is nitpicking, that those like you have done nonstop for decades.
The sequels were not micromanaged. They were completely unmanaged.
Solo didn't suck. It wasn't great but it wasn't bad at all
Jod also saves the kids, Brutus was going to destroy their ship, if Jod hadn't intervened and got the pirates to board the ship they probably would've been killed.
#AskEck
Could the New Republic have survived and defeated the Yuuzah Vong without having to become the Galactic Alliance or losing Coruscant? And if so then what could they have done to win earlier on?
I’ll field this one: No chance. Borsk Fey’lya being Chief of State (and the type of government he encouraged) is one of the major forces that made the destruction of the New Republic inevitable and the formation of the GFFA necessary. Take the anti-Jedi sentiment in the New Republic military, the retirement of the Rebellion’s heroes from that military, and the massive corruption that allowed people like Viqi Shesh to take power, combined with the division that Nom Anor was fomenting around the galaxy, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Even if you were to pick an earlier time in the New Republic’s brief life, it would be hard to find a time where they actually had the capability of mounting a better defense against the Vong. If you pick any time prior to Ponc Gavrisom’s term as Chief of State, you run into the issue of the New Republic being too bogged down by chasing Imperial warlords or recovering from some galaxy-spanning crisis or other. I think that version of the New Republic would have had the WILL to resist the Vong, but would have lacked the MEANS to actually fend them off-likely resulting in an even more destructive war with a less desirable outcome. Not to mention, at least during the NJO, Pellaeon’s Imperial Remnant was willing to work with the New Republic. Could you imagine if the Vong invaded while the New Republic was still fending off Daala or Thrawn, or besieged by Kueller’s terror attacks on the Senate, or dealing with the Yvetha or Ssi-Ruuvi? It would have made them easy pickings for Shedao Shai or Tsavong Lah’s forces.
And if they launched their invasion in the years between Gavrisom’s tenure (considering that the Calibop was not a man of action) and Borsk’s time in the big chair, and you start running into the same issues that led to the New Republic’s collapse.
@ what if leia wasn’t discovered to be Vader’s daughter which will then lead to her being elected to be the next chief of staff would that have helped them?
@@mskywalker0725 In Legends, Leia was actually Chief of State for many years after Mon Mothma stepped down. In fact, Ponc Gavrisom succeeded Leia when she decided to retire from New Republic politics. Leia’s relationship to Darth Vader was not a secret in Legends; she and Luke were open about their parentage and Luke worked to make it known that Vader was responsible for overthrowing the Emperor. It is only in the Disney canon that Leia’s political career was ruined by the secret of her connection to Darth Vader getting out.
Literally told my friends the other night this is easily most slept on star wars show after wstching episode 7 last night
Truth.
The fact I have gone from hoping he’s a good guy by the end to being perfectly fine with him being a villain by the end and I haven’t disliked this show at all during the journey is really impressive. Space goonies is fantastic.
4:05 don't forget, Jod takes a lot of inspiration from Longjohn Silver. If the climax of next episode doesn't involve Jod doing something that causes the other pirates to turn on him in a way that saves the kids, I will be flabbergasted. Extra points if it is unclear wether his motive is greed or a desire to save the kids.
I had an audible scream when Jod took out SM-33. ‘33 has been my absolute favorite.
I am so glad you like it, but I guess I'm too old to watch "Goosebumps in space". It reminds me of the movie "the explorers" when the tweens build a space ship to visit an alien kid in space. I just cant get into it.
He's a bad dude who certainly did go through Order 66. Dark Jedi are hardly a new phenomenon in Star Wars.
"Dark" and "Grey" Jedi are a misnomer. They simply do not exist. What people mean when they use those terms is a "Dark" or "Grey" force user. The Jedi have a code and - right or wrong - when that code is broken that person is no longer a member of the Jedi order.
@@RecoveryHackerYet their complacency and being hyper-attached to their code (ironically enough) made them easy prey for the Sith to take over the Republic from under them.
@@RecoveryHacker That's a classic "No True Scotsman" fallacy. He's probably a former Jedi (since he knows how to use a lightsaber, and seems familiar with their dogma about attachments) and he uses his specialized training for dark (selfish) purposes, going so far as to terrorize children and their families in order to get money. Hence, Dark Jedi.
It’s honestly refreshing to see the bad guy stay the bad guy through out the show. While redemption stories are great I honestly feel like the “bad guy with a heart of gold” trope has been overplayed in the recent years of Star Wars. Overall I’ve enjoyed the direction the show has gone although I would’ve liked to see more of the wolf character. Hopefully Star Wars does more pirate stuff in the future
I think it is likely Jod will help the kids and their parents deal with/ confront the Supervisor, it will be for his own benefit but will be will be helpful to everyone in the end.
The "I'm hungry" speech is Jod's turning point. It shows you the tremendous pressure he is under. It is as good as Luthen's monologue in Andor. He is so close to getting everything he has ever wanted, but in taking it he may become a person he never wanted to be.
I hope we get to find out who Jod actually is. I thought there was a crack developing in his character when he was threatening the children on the ship telling them how they’re weak and sheltered. Maybe that’s from his experiences as a padawan, but who knows. Also very interested to see how he plans to get off the planet. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up getting killed.
Also interested to see what happens to the planet at large. Can’t imagine the New Republic would be terribly interested in a galaxy’s worth of wealth just popping into existence and having to deal with that mess.
Depending on whether or not the currency of present day is still backed with Iridium or whatever it's called that those credits are made of. If it isn't, look at the USD as an example. It used to be backed by the gold standard, but it hasn't been for roughly 50 years. Gold pretty much always retains it's value on every market, there's a lot of money to be made with gold by weight.
The pirates all seem to be enamored by the credits, so it's probably like getting a fat gold bar per credit in our real world if I had to take a stab at it. There's like what 1139 endless vaults of the stuff? That's a lot of precious metal to smelt if that's the route they take, probably not.
I forgot. If the New Republic shows up to save the day somehow, I'm willing to bet they keep that planet completely secret. I'm somewhat anticipating at least a couple of X-Wings popping up, we'll have to see where they take this finale.
A way-out-there theory that's not on anyone's bingo card: Wim gets hold of 2 lightsabers, goes all Anakin-on-Dooku and lobs off Jod's head, falls to the dark side, becomes a Sith Lord, but is redeemed in the end when he sacrifices himself to help defeat the Yuuzhan Vong. Now that would be something.
@Zakk_Zero Are you 7 years old? That's worse writing than Leslie Headland does; I'm not exaggerating.
@@Zakk_Zero with help from Yaddle’s force ghost. You forgot that part.
@@JadusMoltriel Dude... I don't think Zakk's comment was meant to be serious. Just sayin'.
The communication device the parents set up at the start of episode 7 really reminded me of ET's races spaceship in that movie but it wasn't 1 to 1 either.
You might be right that the communication device is a nod to ET, which was an influence on Skeleton Crew.
It would be very cool and fitting to see Hondo Onaka in Skeleton Crew. He should still be alive during the New Republic Era and it should fit well into the show.
Great show. Hope to see much more like this. Feels like they didn't market it right or much at all, but if they keep up this quality level could be promising.
Did anyone else notice that SM33 spells out to be Smee? The name of Captain Hook's first mate.
OMG that's brilliant.
I didn't catch that until a fan made a comment online.
There is another easter egg in character names as well. Jod and Silvo = John Silver. Jod at the moment also appears to be on a similar character arc as Long John Silver, who goes from from being a roguish mentor to Treasure Island's kid protagonist, to a mutineer that betrays him, only in the end to switch sides again and save the kid from the other pirates.
Honestly... Gotta give it to Disney! A freaking Plus!
My favourite Star Wars show since Andor by far.
I love the characters, the story, the pacing, everything.
Ditto.
I think he is just the Star Wars version of Long John Silver from Treasure Island.
You're not alone making that comparison. It certainly fits.
I'll never get used to the new outro music
that episode renewed my faith in disney
show is great, really not sure where it will go next week
crimson jod is a fun mystery, hopefully more seeds get set if they go into a season 2
Disney plus has a star wars in chronological order viewing list. It puts skeleton crew after ahsoka.
Skeleton crew takes place 5 years after ROTJ. It's set during Mando season 1.
Chekhov's lightsaber strikes back!
Yes, Disney. Leave the creators to create, and trust their instincts.
Dare. Go. Dark.
does At Attin kinda remind you of Tanalorr from Jedi Survivor?
Damn right! Especially once they get past the barrier and see the planet.
This series is a hit for Disney…I promise we won’t see the last of this. I’ve personally rewatched these 6-7 episodes so many times, I only did that with Mandalorian.
I hope people who want to do a Star Wars are paying attention. Disney has been creating stuff like this all along, however, pushing to get content created for the streaming service is where they've been making the biggest mistakes.
I am surprised how much the kids ended up in danger, it went much different than I expected toward the end. And the last few seconds I thought we were gonna have another Anakin situation.
Well it’s definitely a Imperial controlled plant. The supervisor had a distinct British accent.
Hahahahahah. Not sure if you were being serious, or joking, but it gave me a good laugh anyway.
I’m fairly certain At Attin has been totally cut off from the rest of the universe since the fall of the Republic - possibly far earlier than that. But I do not know if there is an actual living supervisor, or not. It may all be computer controlled.
Don’t forget, many of those “British” Imperials were holdovers from the Republic, and many fought in the Clone wars, for the Republic.
Cheers,
I think Jod is a perfect Captain Silver character not all bad, but definitely the villain… who will get away in the end after finding an escape from capture. Perhaps to give a cameo in some future show… or movie :)
He was either Order 66'd or a child of the Hidden Path
I was surprised when John popped the wolf guy in the head. I made a joke that he would, but I didn’t think he would actually do it.
As a teacher who deals with kids between 12--14 daily, that adult frustration with kids who mentioned is completely understandable.
I feel like he's not a Jedi, but grew up with the stories of them, perhaps he's just one of the lost children the Jedi never picked up. Not everyone with force abilities needs to be a Jedi or sith
At this point, it would be genuinely revelatory to see a canon character who’s able to wield the Force in very limited fashion, but who ISN’T yet another Order 66 adjacent.
Great show
The guy is literally cackling like maniac whilst it rains credits on him before then threatening the kids and their parents… what part of that makes you think there is more than bad/evil in the end of the last episode?
I think it’s really entertaining and these child actors are great and Jude Law is a maniac in this roll.
Been a fun show. I don't think it so much as Star Wars more of a Space Goonies. I don't think Jod is a Jedi at all. Think he recognized at a young age he was able to use the force, at most was a VERY young padawan during 66 and survived.
I totally feel the same way as Ecks, this is just such an enjoyable show and it's success I think is how character driven it is, and the sense of fun it has. It doesn't take itself too seriously, but it isn't goofy or feel like a parody, it feels like it fits well and stands well on it's own within the star wars IP. I had super low expectations, but honestly this might be my new favorite Star Wars show and I super hope there is more to come down the road.
As I’ve said for 3 weeks now. Captain Hook.
Kyle katarn did say fern , her mother and Tak Rennods last name were all types of hooks