I'll thumbs up this video for the 5+yr old clip of Petko in one of the old Dark Dens. Thanks for remaining an OG collab for our beloved Petko [No, stop calling him Petco you stupid americans. Oh wait.. I'm a stupid american too..... Anyways. Unlike the spelling of the store, his name is not PETCO!]
Before watching your videos I, like most people who dont understand, used to kill spiders that would come into my house (My wife has arachnophobia). But since I have been watching your videos I feel bad for the little guys and can not bring myself to kill them anymore. I just find a way to scoop them up and take them outside now. Thank you for making me have a better understanding of these cute little fellas.
I keep my camels in a 55 gal...and they love it. 2 important things to remember, their natural lifespan is super short...hovering around a year. And, the Solifuges breath through a tracheal system, unlike true spiders. So good airflow seemed important when I started keeping them. I remove and cut the side panels of a 55 rimless, then re-silicone them. My longest camel was about 9 months. That's about what you can expect.
Great info on camel spiders. My Egyptian camel spiders usually live about 6 or 7 months. But I've had a small (1.5 inch long) Arizona camel spider live a little over a year. That long-lived camel spider rarely ate, pushed a lot of sand around, and was often a pet hole staying underground for more than a month at a time.
I actually really enjoy keeping centipedes, but I’m with you 100% on trap door spiders. I’ve kept 6 and only ever saw one eat once. I put them in an enclosure and then worry they’re dying for 6 months before digging them up to either find them very pissed off or dead, rinse and repeat. Not enough space in my bug room to justify another. Great video Kat!
I successfully kept a wild-caught camel spider that I found in my garage for a summer as a kid. I live in the semi-arid central valley of California, and her 10g terrarium was set ip with soil, rocks, bark and plants collected from the field near the house, so it was a pretty accurate representation of her habitat. She wound up laying eggs (obviously mated before I brought her inside). My mom was not amused, and I was forced to release her and her brood. Personally, I would consider her a 9/10 on my scale of invert pets that I've kept. So cool. Would keep again. No fingers in the terrarium though. She was very fast, and very chompy.
You literally KILLED me when you put T. Seladonia on this list…as #1 at that! Omg! I actually have fern & pixie’s sac mate, Milenko, he (or she) is my heart & soul! I’ve actually kept a pretty detailed note collection on my phone of care, behaviors I’ve noticed, feedings, etc that I’ve been keeping on my phone & I copy and paste it on arachnoboards from time to time. I will have had Milenko for 2 years in August & I can’t believe how fast time has gone by! With all this being said….did the well started one that Tom sent you pass away too? Did I miss that in a video or did you not mention it? I’m super curious. Anyway, I agree the price tag is high, but I wanted mine really bad & I just feel blessed that Milenko has done so well. Matter of fact, right now he (or she) is doing its “hang outside the trap” period right now & there was an accidental handle the other day. Those do not happen often, but I love it when they do. It really makes me realize how gentle & fragile they really are.
Can I just say that your channel has completely changed how I see spiders re: their threat level to me? I wasn't one to squash spiders by default or anything, but I was definitely far more leery of them before than I am now. Just rescued one from the kitchen sink this morning, in fact, lol. So thanks for that! (From me and the spider)
I immediately suspected Camel Spiders when you said in the intro "at what point are we finally gonna stop and realize it doesn't work". They're super kewl, but just not suited for captivity.
Thank you for proving the community with entertaining yet educational videos for the hobby. Creating content is not easy and we appreciate all you do. We love having fun while learning!
We have 20 Seladonias and they are so fun to interact with. They either swat at their food, swarm their food, close their trap door, or they threat pose… it’s a blast
Thanks for this list! The only thing I keep on this list is actually an “instead of” inverts is the millipede! Agree wholeheartedly with them, I love my bumblebees and I’ll be onto the bigger ones soon!
I know i’ve commented a few times on your channel Kat, but i actually just want to praise how you articulated yourself, especially here on this video, not only were you giving reasons why these creatures aren’t easy to keep/not for everyone, you were humble and understanding of people and breeders that have a passion in these particular species. It’s funny because i’m terrified of spiders (i’m sure i’ve mentioned lol) and i actually only own a Bengal cat, but i love your videos and watching all your pets. Your honesty and respectfulness towards others is refreshing and touching🖤 Big love from the UK🇬🇧
We had giant millipedes and giant African snails we looker after at primary school. Years later my daughter started bringing home garden snails for pets. I got her 3 giant snails. She loved them. I love the millipedes too. I love the T seledona's, they are absolutely beautiful, but if they are difficult to keep its best to let them live in the wild.
I really appreciate the feedback on trap doors. Ever since I saw an unboxing you did with one I was wanting one because I thought it would be fun to see it open it’s trapdoor to get food but it would just look like a planted terrarium to guests so they wouldn’t freak out about there being a spider around. But I don’t want to have to worry if it’s dead or alive down there if it stops coming up for food & that’s really good advice to consider while I decide if I’d like to get one or not
Any tips for someone absolutely terrified but at the same time fascinated by spiders? I just tend to live vicariously through channels like this lol! I am terrified of spiders but more so of centipedes, every once and a while when it rains I'll get a house centipede in my bathroom (Western NY, semi rural area) and literally get so freaked out I can't sleep for the rest of the night haha!! Closest I've come to getting over my fear was holding a small tarantula at a reptile show, I also held a tailless whip scorpion (which are absolutely terrifying looking but harmless lol) Either way Love the channel Kat!
I feel the same way about hermit crabs. They're awesome pets and I love them but they need so much more space than most people give them and all the onss in pet stores are wild caught.
I have a scolopendra dehanni and love her activity, but she is just a dirt tank for a majority of the year. I am seeing that their husbandry is improving, but they still prove to be a pain in when taking care of them.
I wanted a T. Seladonia so bad. You can get slings here for about 90€ but as lots of ppl I'm sure I wouldn't be able to keep it alive. Dave from Dave's lil beasties is a keeper and breeder of them and quite successful with it. I'll keep waiting too until they become cheaper and common in the hobby. An Ybyrapora diversipes is also on my list since my heart beats for tree spiders the most ❤
My brother actually keeps camel spiders and he got a lot of advice from a Japanese keeper who kept and breed them successfully in captivity. I guess the secret is yes they do need good amount of heat but also that they go into a hibernation! Many think they are dead but will actually come back alive months later
My roomie breeds T. seladonias and I can say it's a lot of work and a lot of observing the need of every individual sling. Quite time consuming. She bought a bunch of slings some time ago which were in rough shape and extremely tiny compared to the ones she bred herself. So we suspect they hadn't fed yet and probably were taken from the mom far too early. My roomie only lost one of those, so she seems to have gotten the hang of it. Seladonias are awesome mothers. They nurse quite extensively so she let the slings stay with their moms until they switch of netflix and throw the youngsters out. So far it has worked really good. To me seladonias are interesting if you keep a bunch of them so there's a chance someone is out and about. Because if they're out they really are something to admire 🥰
I will echo Kat's opinion of T. seladonia. Gorgeous spider, and I have tried to keep them myself and with exactly the same results as is described here. Not eating for reasons unknown, random deaths, bad moults. I now consider them a more "advanced" species to keep properly and apparently I'm not ready yet so with some bad experiences behind me, am ignoring the species.
It’s the first T I bought. Got a versi along with it. August will Be a year since I got them. (And added 6 more) mine been doing great. Versi already in an adult enclosure. It has grown fast. And the seladonia was very small when I got it. And it’s in the 3x3x3 t crib cube with trap door. It never made a trap door in the vial. The vial seemed to stress it
I had 6 T Seladonia slings that I nurtured and cared for like they were my own babies. ALL 6 DIED 😤😭😭😭 Over £600 down the drain. I was so upset and I will never ever buy a sling again. I’d rather pay triple for a juvie.
I grew up in South Africa and the African millipede was my favourite bug! I used to go looking for them and I would spend hours just hanging with them and having them crawl up my arms. They were everywhere where I lived. We call them Shongololos which is apparently derived from the Zulu word meaning to roll up. I think… anyway, I just really flippin’ miss them and I wish I could keep them but I live in New Zealand now so it’s a little tricky 😞 I spent so many childhood hours digging around for creepy crawlies in the garden. Oddly enough though, I have never liked centipedes. They creep me out a bit. Shifty bastards 😱
I've had situations similar to this, on two occasions people have offered to give me a pet octopus in the past but I have no means of maintaining a cold saltwater aquarium right now that and the potential chaos that could happen, I've never had to worry about any of my spiders growing to 30 feet and 600 pounds or taking a stroll under the door out of curiosity.
I have heard camel spiders don't do "well" in captivity due to their life cycle being majority in hibernation and then coming out for a short period to massacre and eat everything nearby. But again to your point, if they're borderline dead most of the year and only come out for a few weeks whats the point of stressing them out by putting them in captivity? This also bums me the heck out bc the fuzzy egyptian sunspiders are so dang cute. Edit: Also Scolopendra heros sounds like a decent pede species to try. Arid species just seem me proof.
I fully understand how you feel about the T. Seladonia, went through something similar with my female Jackson's Chameleon, was doing everything i could to care for it well and still ended up losing her. Was definitely a rough one and now have a different view of keeping that species specifically.
Centipedes are tricky mainly because they are a underground insect. The only time you know something happens when your feeder disappears or dies on the surface.
@@yoyofrutti9238what classify's an insect? Is it considered a bug still? 😂 sry if that's a dumb question and I'm sure "bug" isn't a scientific term anyways so it probably doesn't matter one way or another, I just always thought of them as a "type" of ...buggy critter. 😅🤷🏼♀️
@@TheKatarinaGiselle All insects have 6 legs and a body that is devided in 3 (head, thorax and abdomen). Bug is just a term for any invertabrae with an exosceleton, I guess. Critters are small animals usually mammals or birds, but you could also argue that reptiles and amphibians and such are too.
Well actually (lol it’s gonna be one of these threads where someone new will just keep popping up and start with “well actually”) there are “true bugs” (Hemiptera) which are an order within the class Insecta (insect). True bugs have wings and a proboscus (piercing mouthparts). Etymologists will typically only refer to something as a bug if it’s in the order Hemiptera.
55 gallon fish tank for the Camel Spider. Im an Iraq Veteran and I kept one for over a year in a 55 gallon tank in our trailer. Make it like the desert. I let it go when we came home, but it got pretty good size. I never tried it, but it coulda nailed a small lizard.
The ones that sketch me out - other than the obvious nopes, like Atracids and Phoneutrias - are Macrothele. Fast as hell, stealthy, defensive, and they web the hells out of their enclosures, so can get out that way if you're not watching closely. Plus they have a fairly nasty bite.
Thank you for this video ❤! I think the hobby needs more of videos like that. @All: Please do not keep wildcaughts! Please leave wild animals in their habitat! Please do not keep species where parameters are unknown like the camel spiders (I just saw one in a petshop and it broke my heart because this animal will die in a couple of weeks for sure! But I didn't buy it because the trader would "refill his stock" again and again because someone bought it...). Please do not keep species just because there are rare, thrilling, new or "special" in the hobby -especially as a beginner- we are not collecting stamps or other dead things. And I 100% agree that it is not a good idea to keep an unpredictable, venomous or poisonous animal at home like centipedes - above all in a family with children. There are so many wonderful, interesting and well known inverts, bredable in captivity and well introduced in the hobby than can be kept with minimum or no risk but a lot of fun.
I have watched quite a few of your videos, and enjoyed videos of you unboxing and rehoming some of your prize species. I have watched you creating a habitat for species that perhaps shouldn't be kept as pets (black widows, brown recluse). I accept this is your hobby and it brings you joy. Seeing it bring you joy has brought me joy. But...some creatures just are not meant to be kept in captivity.
My Seledonia has been with me for over a year now and seems to be doing well! I helicopter parented for a bit but now I just leave it alone and it’s fine. Rarely it Mystic eat but they keep getting bigger so food must be getting consumed! It’s so pretty, I love it, wish I got to see it more!
I always see Centipedes as being the "hots" of the invert world. They're basically unhandleable, and incredible escape artists and pack venom that's legitimately dangerous to humans. Centipedes and venomous snakes fall firmly into the category of animals I would never attempt to handle or keep, and I'm fine with handling tarantulas and non-venomous snakes and even have a snake.
I'm happy with my curly hair hehe my dad had a Sydney Funnel Web Spider she terrified me as a kid holy conoly she threat poses and strikes at the tank glass when I passed by to go to school or the kitchen XD
Camel spiders are cool pets, but yes they don't live very long in captivity, and no one really knows how long in the wild. My longest-lived one was an Arizona camel spider at 14 months, whereas my average Egyptian camel spider lives about 6 or 7 months. They can go through periods of being very active, but they can also be pet holes. Quick Camel Spider Fact: Camel spiders and neither camels, nor spiders 😁
I imagine Camel spiders probably need a larger enclosure maybe a 20 gallon with a night time drop and clear day night. Just going off what we have here in AZ.
Camel spiders are so beautiful and we have a lot of them here in South africa, I caught one in the Kruger National Park, I took a few photos and then released it back, they are VERY fast😅, but I agree, by what I've seen from behavior aswell, they move around a lot and need a lot of space, not well in captivity
I used to collect tarantulas around 30 years ago. I love them, and all spiders. I had an epiphany one day that while I love these animals so much, I felt that they were "depressed" or unhealthy while living in captivity versus their natural habitat. I guess I didn't know how to do it well back then, but I decided that I would never keep them as pets because that would make me a hypocrite... If you love an animal, you want whatever is best for their little lives, and living in nature is what that is. Thankfully, I never got into exotic birds or something like that...
I love your plushies so much they're so cute 😭 I have a few spider plushies but they always only have two eyes, which really bugs me. Anyway! What a cool informative video, again! Thank you.
I lost my seladonia a few months ago. Don’t know why,had molted, then eaten and was on roof and went to barely move enclosure and dropped, was dead 😞 had water. They’re just so fragile
It looks like the camel spiders were kept in a similar substrate to average t - they need much more dry, heated climates - i recommend sandy, stone and minimal plant soils and keep with a heat lamp ❤ hope this helps
I just ordered 4 PHONEUTRIA FERA( Brazilian Wandering Spider) and 3 brown widows. I have 17 tarantulas and i'm getting into true spiders. I have always loved the Brazilian wandering spider and the Sydney Funnel web but i don't think you can get the Sydney funnel web anywhere.
I am so in sync with you on this list. I had been interested in trap door spiders but now I'm not so sure. Maybe if I find a good deal. Not interested in other inverts. Especially centipedes. I find them horrific. T seladonia was the first T on my wishlist. I will definitely get one when the price goes down. There are so many Tarantula species that are reasonably priced that I'll be busy collecting for awhile.
Dave from the Beatie Room bred his T Seladonia and got slings. Not sure what happened but when I asked about her because we hadn't seen her in a while he said he doesn't have Seladonias any more. So maybe things went bad for him too eventually. As to Giant Millipedes my daughter loved hers when we kept them. They're like velcro when they walk across your hands. So stinking cute!
T. seladonia is one I’d love to keep but yeah, that price tag. 😣 Plus the amount of experienced keepers having trouble with them… It’s just too risky in my opinion too. Maybe someday.
I got a H.maculata already set up in a tank 2 years ago, from a guy I was buying some tanks from. He just said do you want this? So I thought why not. I think I’ve seen it twice in those two years.
I want to keep an spider as my second companion. My first companion is a cat that haunts every single jumping spider coming to my house. I’m from the Caribbean (Colombia, specifically, Andean region, 20 centigrade grades whenever is warm and 0 whenever it’s cold) and I want to get an spider that simply feels right to be at my house. Which species do you recommend me? 🕷️🕸️
PS:. My cat is very skillful, sadly no spiders in my house but also not a single mosquito coming with harmful deseases. My cat is a beautiful black planter, she is protecting me and I want to keep an spider inside my house (I really like spiders, they are smart and beautiful). Most long feet spiders are in the corners until my cat, she figures out how to haunt them 😳 no black widows or violinist spiders in here (not endemic, nor they could survive) PS2:. I considered a Bananera Spider, but that kind is more harmful to my cat whenever she figures out how to open the case than for me (swelling, pain and a visit to the hospital vs a threat for her) PS3:. I really love spiders in here, I really like how they are eating harmful insects everywhere I go. Also , spiders here are not al all harmful for humans and pets (they are just looking at you, saying “hello, I’m a Colombian spider” hehehe) poisonous and harmful for humans and pets are rare here. It’s sad that my cat is forbidding me to watch spiders at corners while I sleep, but I love here so I want a friendly Esau to handle and to feed spider, warm to cold survivor (2600mts over the sea)
I have had 3 T-Seladonia ‘s I babied them. Did my research and still lost them. They were doing fine and them one by one unexpectedly passed away, I was so sad 😞
Hi kat steve from south Australia totally agree centipedes no way we have them everywhere here plus live close to the murray River been biiten few times not recommended they dont let go so keep few different species of old worlds yep old worlds and not as bad as ya think luv them thankyou for gr8 channel still learn things thankyou
Love watching your videos and even though I have had arachnophobia all my life after watching your videos I’ve been trying to convince my husband to get a jumping spider but he’s still not budging lol.
Oh my Kat! First, to get this out of the way, I had NO IDEA What "inverts" were. 😂🙂 I had to Google it! Hello Fellow Quasi-Rookies like me. "Inverts" is a shortened version of "invertebrates"...I guess you could say it's "slang" in the world of Arachnids and reptiles. Like they call baby spiders "Slings" (I love that one❤) Moving along. Kat i think you are the coolest chickadee in this male dominated hobby and i just LOVE watching you. However, when you caleed Trap door spiders "cute"? Oh i need a HUBE PALLET CLEANSER! I think those are the scariest most vicious spiders in the WHOLE WORLD!! And... I'm NOT alone!Even my bad ass Harley riding big bother is terrified of those things.😂🤣 He thinks ALL Trap Door spiders are that Australian funnel web-anator! If in going to be honest, I feel the same way! The way tge rear up like a Stallion, and they show off those ENORMOUS FANGS, with venom dripping out of them😱 NOOO MA'AM!. You have one that looks like it has an Oreo cookie strapped to it's back-side! 😂That thing is avast my nightmares are mace of,, the minute I see you going to get one if those things, that's when I say "BYE-BYE- BYE🎶
In regards to keeping inverts that don't do well in captivity, we should stop trying until we can figure out how to keep them properly so that they can do well in captivity by providing them with what they really need.
I purposely had two t seladonias, they did great and recently one died post molt. My other one is still alive. The y. Diversipes is easier except when it plays dead and scares me.
Is it possible to maybe create a trap-door spider burrow up against glass, like they do with ant farms? That way you’d get to see the lil darling and it could still be safe in its hole. Just curious.
I have 2 brazzil jewls coming on Saturday and I cant wait to do my first unboxing with my dad i have watched lots of videos but its hard to find videos after just unboxing. people are excited and say what the spidr needs but they dont post about it again.
That should probably be a warning. Either the animal is impossible to see 99% of the time or it dies quick and is quietly forgotten. My advice would be completely ignore unboxers, talk to breeders only. They are the actual knowlegable ones,
$500??? 🤯 For a spider the size of a grain of rice? Oh Gurl... I'm sorry you lost yours... if YOU can't keep "it" alive, it ain't easy to keep alive PERIOD !!
Those are the babies, adults go for a lot more. they are a trap door spider and need a certain environment to thrive. When they die it's probable because of bad husbandry information.
Thus was a great abd very funny video!😅🤣.. your Moon-crab story cracked me up😂.. not cause they died but that you didn't know HOW they died.. Did they molt and die? Did they eat eachother?... sorry.. it just sounded so funny..
T.saledonia is my DREAM but I'm a brand new keeper. And I don't feel I have the exp to keep them yet. Y.diversipes was not even on my radar until now. I shall research
Great video, I'm turned off of T seladonia because I paid $205 and never got. I was one of ppl screwed over by Dustin from simply spiders, lost over 800. 😣
I want an African Giant Millipede so bad, but you can’t keep them as pets where I am in Canada 😢 I held one at a butterfly conservatory though, they’re so awesome 😄
as far as crabs go from the guy ive known keeping stuff like them successfully most crabs need small tuperwares to live in and otherwise they get stressed and self canibalize and stuff.
I love all bugs, but centipedes, millipedes and trapdoor spiders scare me 😂 yeah, I love my goliaths, but don’t do these small scary buggers 😂 don’t know why my brain is like this… I passed on the T. seladonia, I really love their looks, so mesmerizing. And where I live, they’re not that expensive. But I‘ve seen most keepers struggle with keeping them and lots of losses, so I said no to buying this species. Camel spiders are not available here, don’t know why, but I would pass on them, as they’re not doing well in captivity. My never again are any kind of Avic or/and Caribena sp. 😢 I had a hard time keeing them alive, constantly problems with raising slings, so I gave them to a friend who has a „green thumb“ with these ones. Meanwhile, I don’t have problems with other arboreals. But I don’t want to experiment with living creatures on why I am too dumb to keep them alive. And I don’t do a scorpion communal again, after setting one up with adult Euscorpius italicus, ending up with 1 fat scorpion alone 🙈😱 so now all my scorpions got their own enclosures where they live a happy life.
this is too sad… i was thinking of caring for a trapdoor spider because they are so gorgeous and impressive but i didn’t stop once to think about how trapdoor spiders are burrowing animals…
You weren’t lucky with your trapdoors. I see my Liphistius ornatus (2 years old) 0,5second per month, each time I feed her. It happened she didn’t eat during 2 months, but, when she eats, I always see her.
Hey kat. I have a question . I do keep a few praying mantis and i kept cork barks collected from wild in the enclosure which within few days grew a hairy mold like thing . How to avoid this this and is harmful for the mantis ?
Mold is harmful to most insects. I would recommend you to keep your terrarium less humid. You should spray water sometimes so they can drink. However, it should not stay wet and moldy in there so make holes for air or place a net so air can come in and the mantis does not escape.
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trapdoor feeding videos are fun id love to see one as an addition to your channel
I'll thumbs up this video for the 5+yr old clip of Petko in one of the old Dark Dens. Thanks for remaining an OG collab for our beloved Petko [No, stop calling him Petco you stupid americans. Oh wait.. I'm a stupid american too..... Anyways. Unlike the spelling of the store, his name is not PETCO!]
It’s cute
What is the species of tarantula you suggested at the end of video please? thank you
I read the title as “introverts” instead of “inverts” and I was so confused for a second 😂
😂😂😂😂 same
me too 😂👍
🤣😂😂... I'm not EVEN going to say what I heard!🤣😂.. and I'm not joking.
There's just some people that you cant mess with.
As an introvert I can confirm, we do not like to be recommended...
When I think of trap door spiders all I can think of is Jack Sparrow yelling about his jar of dirt.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 this is indeed the exact experience of keeping a trapdoor spider....
@@shadowynne it's a very impressive jar of dirt though.
Me too!! Hahaha
And guess whats inside it?
Before watching your videos I, like most people who dont understand, used to kill spiders that would come into my house (My wife has arachnophobia). But since I have been watching your videos I feel bad for the little guys and can not bring myself to kill them anymore. I just find a way to scoop them up and take them outside now. Thank you for making me have a better understanding of these cute little fellas.
I keep my camels in a 55 gal...and they love it. 2 important things to remember, their natural lifespan is super short...hovering around a year. And, the Solifuges breath through a tracheal system, unlike true spiders. So good airflow seemed important when I started keeping them. I remove and cut the side panels of a 55 rimless, then re-silicone them. My longest camel was about 9 months. That's about what you can expect.
I was going to say something like this. They move, then eat, they move, they eat, they mate, they die. Short life span sounds better 🤭
Great info on camel spiders. My Egyptian camel spiders usually live about 6 or 7 months. But I've had a small (1.5 inch long) Arizona camel spider live a little over a year. That long-lived camel spider rarely ate, pushed a lot of sand around, and was often a pet hole staying underground for more than a month at a time.
I actually really enjoy keeping centipedes, but I’m with you 100% on trap door spiders. I’ve kept 6 and only ever saw one eat once. I put them in an enclosure and then worry they’re dying for 6 months before digging them up to either find them very pissed off or dead, rinse and repeat. Not enough space in my bug room to justify another. Great video Kat!
I've wanted a T seladonia for a bit because of how beautiful it is but couldn't justify the price tag. Thanks for sharing an alternate!
I like that you also gave a good substitute option.
I successfully kept a wild-caught camel spider that I found in my garage for a summer as a kid. I live in the semi-arid central valley of California, and her 10g terrarium was set ip with soil, rocks, bark and plants collected from the field near the house, so it was a pretty accurate representation of her habitat. She wound up laying eggs (obviously mated before I brought her inside). My mom was not amused, and I was forced to release her and her brood.
Personally, I would consider her a 9/10 on my scale of invert pets that I've kept. So cool. Would keep again.
No fingers in the terrarium though. She was very fast, and very chompy.
You literally KILLED me when you put T. Seladonia on this list…as #1 at that! Omg! I actually have fern & pixie’s sac mate, Milenko, he (or she) is my heart & soul! I’ve actually kept a pretty detailed note collection on my phone of care, behaviors I’ve noticed, feedings, etc that I’ve been keeping on my phone & I copy and paste it on arachnoboards from time to time. I will have had Milenko for 2 years in August & I can’t believe how fast time has gone by! With all this being said….did the well started one that Tom sent you pass away too? Did I miss that in a video or did you not mention it? I’m super curious. Anyway, I agree the price tag is high, but I wanted mine really bad & I just feel blessed that Milenko has done so well. Matter of fact, right now he (or she) is doing its “hang outside the trap” period right now & there was an accidental handle the other day. Those do not happen often, but I love it when they do. It really makes me realize how gentle & fragile they really are.
do you have videos i can watch of brazil jewel. people dont post after just unboxing
Can I just say that your channel has completely changed how I see spiders re: their threat level to me? I wasn't one to squash spiders by default or anything, but I was definitely far more leery of them before than I am now. Just rescued one from the kitchen sink this morning, in fact, lol. So thanks for that! (From me and the spider)
tysm I’m so happy to help 🥹
I immediately suspected Camel Spiders when you said in the intro "at what point are we finally gonna stop and realize it doesn't work".
They're super kewl, but just not suited for captivity.
Thank you for proving the community with entertaining yet educational videos for the hobby. Creating content is not easy and we appreciate all you do. We love having fun while learning!
We have 20 Seladonias and they are so fun to interact with. They either swat at their food, swarm their food, close their trap door, or they threat pose… it’s a blast
I loved the cut-aways to the interesting moments in the past. Also appreciate the honesty. ❤
100% agree on T Seledonia, that was my hardest loss. A week after I picked them up from the local show, it passed.
dude that f-ing sucks. im so sorry
Thanks for this list! The only thing I keep on this list is actually an “instead of” inverts is the millipede! Agree wholeheartedly with them, I love my bumblebees and I’ll be onto the bigger ones soon!
I’m so glad to hear some else say how difficult t seladonia are to keep, I’ve had the same experience and the price tag is *ridiculous*
I know i’ve commented a few times on your channel Kat, but i actually just want to praise how you articulated yourself, especially here on this video, not only were you giving reasons why these creatures aren’t easy to keep/not for everyone, you were humble and understanding of people and breeders that have a passion in these particular species. It’s funny because i’m terrified of spiders (i’m sure i’ve mentioned lol) and i actually only own a Bengal cat, but i love your videos and watching all your pets. Your honesty and respectfulness towards others is refreshing and touching🖤
Big love from the UK🇬🇧
One of my all time favorite spider is the Red Fang Wonder Spider. So beautiful
We had giant millipedes and giant African snails we looker after at primary school. Years later my daughter started bringing home garden snails for pets. I got her 3 giant snails. She loved them. I love the millipedes too. I love the T seledona's, they are absolutely beautiful, but if they are difficult to keep its best to let them live in the wild.
I really appreciate the feedback on trap doors. Ever since I saw an unboxing you did with one I was wanting one because I thought it would be fun to see it open it’s trapdoor to get food but it would just look like a planted terrarium to guests so they wouldn’t freak out about there being a spider around. But I don’t want to have to worry if it’s dead or alive down there if it stops coming up for food & that’s really good advice to consider while I decide if I’d like to get one or not
Any tips for someone absolutely terrified but at the same time fascinated by spiders? I just tend to live vicariously through channels like this lol! I am terrified of spiders but more so of centipedes, every once and a while when it rains I'll get a house centipede in my bathroom (Western NY, semi rural area) and literally get so freaked out I can't sleep for the rest of the night haha!! Closest I've come to getting over my fear was holding a small tarantula at a reptile show, I also held a tailless whip scorpion (which are absolutely terrifying looking but harmless lol) Either way Love the channel Kat!
Jumping spiders!
I feel the same way about hermit crabs. They're awesome pets and I love them but they need so much more space than most people give them and all the onss in pet stores are wild caught.
Dying…to party!! 💃
*cry* that’s too bad about the T seladonia, I was working up to one. Great tips, tho! Good things to know. 💕
I have a scolopendra dehanni and love her activity, but she is just a dirt tank for a majority of the year. I am seeing that their husbandry is improving, but they still prove to be a pain in when taking care of them.
I just love that you said you helecopter parented your t seladonia 😂
I wanted a T. Seladonia so bad. You can get slings here for about 90€ but as lots of ppl I'm sure I wouldn't be able to keep it alive. Dave from Dave's lil beasties is a keeper and breeder of them and quite successful with it. I'll keep waiting too until they become cheaper and common in the hobby. An Ybyrapora diversipes is also on my list since my heart beats for tree spiders the most ❤
Nicely thought out, Kat. Thank you! 😍🕷🕸
My brother actually keeps camel spiders and he got a lot of advice from a Japanese keeper who kept and breed them successfully in captivity. I guess the secret is yes they do need good amount of heat but also that they go into a hibernation! Many think they are dead but will actually come back alive months later
My roomie breeds T. seladonias and I can say it's a lot of work and a lot of observing the need of every individual sling. Quite time consuming. She bought a bunch of slings some time ago which were in rough shape and extremely tiny compared to the ones she bred herself. So we suspect they hadn't fed yet and probably were taken from the mom far too early. My roomie only lost one of those, so she seems to have gotten the hang of it. Seladonias are awesome mothers. They nurse quite extensively so she let the slings stay with their moms until they switch of netflix and throw the youngsters out. So far it has worked really good.
To me seladonias are interesting if you keep a bunch of them so there's a chance someone is out and about. Because if they're out they really are something to admire 🥰
I will echo Kat's opinion of T. seladonia. Gorgeous spider, and I have tried to keep them myself and with exactly the same results as is described here. Not eating for reasons unknown, random deaths, bad moults. I now consider them a more "advanced" species to keep properly and apparently I'm not ready yet so with some bad experiences behind me, am ignoring the species.
It’s the first T I bought. Got a versi along with it. August will Be a year since I got them. (And added 6 more) mine been doing great. Versi already in an adult enclosure. It has grown fast. And the seladonia was very small when I got it. And it’s in the 3x3x3 t crib cube with trap door. It never made a trap door in the vial. The vial seemed to stress it
I had 6 T Seladonia slings that I nurtured and cared for like they were my own babies. ALL 6 DIED 😤😭😭😭 Over £600 down the drain. I was so upset and I will never ever buy a sling again. I’d rather pay triple for a juvie.
Hello, do you know what did they die from? Thank you
I grew up in South Africa and the African millipede was my favourite bug! I used to go looking for them and I would spend hours just hanging with them and having them crawl up my arms. They were everywhere where I lived. We call them Shongololos which is apparently derived from the Zulu word meaning to roll up. I think… anyway, I just really flippin’ miss them and I wish I could keep them but I live in New Zealand now so it’s a little tricky 😞 I spent so many childhood hours digging around for creepy crawlies in the garden. Oddly enough though, I have never liked centipedes. They creep me out a bit. Shifty bastards 😱
I've had situations similar to this, on two occasions people have offered to give me a pet octopus in the past but I have no means of maintaining a cold saltwater aquarium right now that and the potential chaos that could happen, I've never had to worry about any of my spiders growing to 30 feet and 600 pounds or taking a stroll under the door out of curiosity.
Love that you gave substitutes, very smart!
I have heard camel spiders don't do "well" in captivity due to their life cycle being majority in hibernation and then coming out for a short period to massacre and eat everything nearby. But again to your point, if they're borderline dead most of the year and only come out for a few weeks whats the point of stressing them out by putting them in captivity? This also bums me the heck out bc the fuzzy egyptian sunspiders are so dang cute.
Edit: Also Scolopendra heros sounds like a decent pede species to try. Arid species just seem me proof.
I fully understand how you feel about the T. Seladonia, went through something similar with my female Jackson's Chameleon, was doing everything i could to care for it well and still ended up losing her. Was definitely a rough one and now have a different view of keeping that species specifically.
Centipedes are tricky mainly because they are a underground insect. The only time you know something happens when your feeder disappears or dies on the surface.
Not that I disagree, but centipedes aren’t insects.
@@yoyofrutti9238what classify's an insect? Is it considered a bug still? 😂 sry if that's a dumb question and I'm sure "bug" isn't a scientific term anyways so it probably doesn't matter one way or another, I just always thought of them as a "type" of ...buggy critter. 😅🤷🏼♀️
@@TheKatarinaGiselle All insects have 6 legs and a body that is devided in 3 (head, thorax and abdomen). Bug is just a term for any invertabrae with an exosceleton, I guess. Critters are small animals usually mammals or birds, but you could also argue that reptiles and amphibians and such are too.
@@yoyofrutti9238 thanks!
Well actually (lol it’s gonna be one of these threads where someone new will just keep popping up and start with “well actually”) there are “true bugs” (Hemiptera) which are an order within the class Insecta (insect). True bugs have wings and a proboscus (piercing mouthparts). Etymologists will typically only refer to something as a bug if it’s in the order Hemiptera.
I have a Y. Diversipes and it's sooo pretty I keep thir care the same as my other arboreal t's
55 gallon fish tank for the Camel Spider. Im an Iraq Veteran and I kept one for over a year in a 55 gallon tank in our trailer. Make it like the desert. I let it go when we came home, but it got pretty good size. I never tried it, but it coulda nailed a small lizard.
The ones that sketch me out - other than the obvious nopes, like Atracids and Phoneutrias - are Macrothele. Fast as hell, stealthy, defensive, and they web the hells out of their enclosures, so can get out that way if you're not watching closely. Plus they have a fairly nasty bite.
Thank you for this video ❤! I think the hobby needs more of videos like that.
@All: Please do not keep wildcaughts! Please leave wild animals in their habitat! Please do not keep species where parameters are unknown like the camel spiders (I just saw one in a petshop and it broke my heart because this animal will die in a couple of weeks for sure! But I didn't buy it because the trader would "refill his stock" again and again because someone bought it...). Please do not keep species just because there are rare, thrilling, new or "special" in the hobby -especially as a beginner- we are not collecting stamps or other dead things. And I 100% agree that it is not a good idea to keep an unpredictable, venomous or poisonous animal at home like centipedes - above all in a family with children.
There are so many wonderful, interesting and well known inverts, bredable in captivity and well introduced in the hobby than can be kept with minimum or no risk but a lot of fun.
I have watched quite a few of your videos, and enjoyed videos of you unboxing and rehoming some of your prize species. I have watched you creating a habitat for species that perhaps shouldn't be kept as pets (black widows, brown recluse). I accept this is your hobby and it brings you joy. Seeing it bring you joy has brought me joy. But...some creatures just are not meant to be kept in captivity.
I agree & ty!
I know nothing about the last invert, but totally agree with the others.
My Seledonia has been with me for over a year now and seems to be doing well! I helicopter parented for a bit but now I just leave it alone and it’s fine. Rarely it Mystic eat but they keep getting bigger so food must be getting consumed! It’s so pretty, I love it, wish I got to see it more!
I always see Centipedes as being the "hots" of the invert world. They're basically unhandleable, and incredible escape artists and pack venom that's legitimately dangerous to humans. Centipedes and venomous snakes fall firmly into the category of animals I would never attempt to handle or keep, and I'm fine with handling tarantulas and non-venomous snakes and even have a snake.
I'm happy with my curly hair hehe my dad had a Sydney Funnel Web Spider she terrified me as a kid holy conoly she threat poses and strikes at the tank glass when I passed by to go to school or the kitchen XD
Oh goodness Sydney Funnel web!! That would be scary! I grew up watching for random red back spiders!
Camel spiders are cool pets, but yes they don't live very long in captivity, and no one really knows how long in the wild. My longest-lived one was an Arizona camel spider at 14 months, whereas my average Egyptian camel spider lives about 6 or 7 months. They can go through periods of being very active, but they can also be pet holes. Quick Camel Spider Fact: Camel spiders and neither camels, nor spiders 😁
I imagine Camel spiders probably need a larger enclosure maybe a 20 gallon with a night time drop and clear day night. Just going off what we have here in AZ.
big agree prob even larger with heat or something
Yea I understand for the T. Seladonia 😢 it's my favorite specie but so difficult to keep alive🥲
I agree with #4 a 100%. i was also gifted a Typhochlaena seladonia it seems to be doing good but it makes me nervous.
Camel spiders are so beautiful and we have a lot of them here in South africa, I caught one in the Kruger National Park, I took a few photos and then released it back, they are VERY fast😅, but I agree, by what I've seen from behavior aswell, they move around a lot and need a lot of space, not well in captivity
I used to collect tarantulas around 30 years ago. I love them, and all spiders. I had an epiphany one day that while I love these animals so much, I felt that they were "depressed" or unhealthy while living in captivity versus their natural habitat. I guess I didn't know how to do it well back then, but I decided that I would never keep them as pets because that would make me a hypocrite... If you love an animal, you want whatever is best for their little lives, and living in nature is what that is. Thankfully, I never got into exotic birds or something like that...
Happy to see how much you now love your millipedes and how comfortable you are with them now, even putting them on your head and such haha
I love your plushies so much they're so cute 😭
I have a few spider plushies but they always only have two eyes, which really bugs me.
Anyway!
What a cool informative video, again! Thank you.
I lost my seladonia a few months ago. Don’t know why,had molted, then eaten and was on roof and went to barely move enclosure and dropped, was dead 😞 had water. They’re just so fragile
It looks like the camel spiders were kept in a similar substrate to average t - they need much more dry, heated climates - i recommend sandy, stone and minimal plant soils and keep with a heat lamp ❤ hope this helps
Totally awesome video!!!!!
I just ordered 4 PHONEUTRIA FERA( Brazilian Wandering Spider) and 3 brown widows. I have 17 tarantulas and i'm getting into true spiders. I have always loved the Brazilian wandering spider and the Sydney Funnel web but i don't think you can get the Sydney funnel web anywhere.
How’d you get the phoneutria?
I am so in sync with you on this list. I had been interested in trap door spiders but now I'm not so sure. Maybe if I find a good deal. Not interested in other inverts. Especially centipedes. I find them horrific. T seladonia was the first T on my wishlist. I will definitely get one when the price goes down. There are so many Tarantula species that are reasonably priced that I'll be busy collecting for awhile.
Great vid Kat ..
Dave from the Beatie Room bred his T Seladonia and got slings. Not sure what happened but when I asked about her because we hadn't seen her in a while he said he doesn't have Seladonias any more. So maybe things went bad for him too eventually. As to Giant Millipedes my daughter loved hers when we kept them. They're like velcro when they walk across your hands. So stinking cute!
no clue but if that’s the case SUCKS 😭
T. seladonia is one I’d love to keep but yeah, that price tag. 😣 Plus the amount of experienced keepers having trouble with them… It’s just too risky in my opinion too. Maybe someday.
I got a H.maculata already set up in a tank 2 years ago, from a guy I was buying some tanks from. He just said do you want this? So I thought why not. I think I’ve seen it twice in those two years.
I want to keep an spider as my second companion. My first companion is a cat that haunts every single jumping spider coming to my house. I’m from the Caribbean (Colombia, specifically, Andean region, 20 centigrade grades whenever is warm and 0 whenever it’s cold) and I want to get an spider that simply feels right to be at my house. Which species do you recommend me? 🕷️🕸️
PS:. My cat is very skillful, sadly no spiders in my house but also not a single mosquito coming with harmful deseases. My cat is a beautiful black planter, she is protecting me and I want to keep an spider inside my house (I really like spiders, they are smart and beautiful). Most long feet spiders are in the corners until my cat, she figures out how to haunt them 😳 no black widows or violinist spiders in here (not endemic, nor they could survive)
PS2:. I considered a Bananera Spider, but that kind is more harmful to my cat whenever she figures out how to open the case than for me (swelling, pain and a visit to the hospital vs a threat for her)
PS3:. I really love spiders in here, I really like how they are eating harmful insects everywhere I go. Also , spiders here are not al all harmful for humans and pets (they are just looking at you, saying “hello, I’m a Colombian spider” hehehe) poisonous and harmful for humans and pets are rare here. It’s sad that my cat is forbidding me to watch spiders at corners while I sleep, but I love here so I want a friendly Esau to handle and to feed spider, warm to cold survivor (2600mts over the sea)
I have had 3 T-Seladonia ‘s I babied them. Did my research and still lost them. They were doing fine and them one by one unexpectedly passed away, I was so sad 😞
Hi kat steve from south Australia totally agree centipedes no way we have them everywhere here plus live close to the murray River been biiten few times not recommended they dont let go so keep few different species of old worlds yep old worlds and not as bad as ya think luv them thankyou for gr8 channel still learn things thankyou
Love watching your videos and even though I have had arachnophobia all my life after watching your videos I’ve been trying to convince my husband to get a jumping spider but he’s still not budging lol.
Oh my Kat! First, to get this out of the way, I had NO IDEA What "inverts" were. 😂🙂 I had to Google it! Hello Fellow Quasi-Rookies like me. "Inverts" is a shortened version of "invertebrates"...I guess you could say it's "slang" in the world of Arachnids and reptiles. Like they call baby spiders "Slings"
(I love that one❤) Moving along. Kat i think you are the coolest chickadee in this male dominated hobby and i just LOVE watching you. However, when you caleed Trap door spiders "cute"? Oh i need a HUBE PALLET CLEANSER! I think those are the scariest most vicious spiders in the WHOLE WORLD!! And... I'm NOT alone!Even my bad ass Harley riding big bother is terrified of those things.😂🤣 He thinks ALL Trap Door spiders are that Australian funnel web-anator! If in going to be honest, I feel the same way! The way tge rear up like a Stallion, and they show off those ENORMOUS FANGS, with venom dripping out of them😱 NOOO MA'AM!. You have one that looks like it has an Oreo cookie strapped to it's back-side! 😂That thing is avast my nightmares are mace of,, the minute I see you going to get one if those things, that's when I say "BYE-BYE- BYE🎶
In regards to keeping inverts that don't do well in captivity, we should stop trying until we can figure out how to keep them properly so that they can do well in captivity by providing them with what they really need.
I purposely had two t seladonias, they did great and recently one died post molt. My other one is still alive. The y. Diversipes is easier except when it plays dead and scares me.
The first centipede I found was the size of a large foot. And mistakingly watched as my then husband killed it. All I gotta say is I’m terrified.
Is it possible to maybe create a trap-door spider burrow up against glass, like they do with ant farms? That way you’d get to see the lil darling and it could still be safe in its hole. Just curious.
Dankie Kat!
I have 2 brazzil jewls coming on Saturday and I cant wait to do my first unboxing with my dad i have watched lots of videos but its hard to find videos after just unboxing. people are excited and say what the spidr needs but they dont post about it again.
That should probably be a warning. Either the animal is impossible to see 99% of the time or it dies quick and is quietly forgotten. My advice would be completely ignore unboxers, talk to breeders only. They are the actual knowlegable ones,
Would using a terrarium sort of the shape of an ant farm work for trap door spiders? That way you could see them in the hole. Or is that bad for them?
$500??? 🤯 For a spider the size of a grain of rice? Oh Gurl... I'm sorry you lost yours... if YOU can't keep "it" alive, it ain't easy to keep alive PERIOD !!
Those are the babies, adults go for a lot more. they are a trap door spider and need a certain environment to thrive. When they die it's probable because of bad husbandry information.
Hi Kat, can you unbox a Sydney Funnel Web Spider please or can they not be obtained outside of New South Wales?
Thus was a great abd very funny video!😅🤣.. your Moon-crab story cracked me up😂.. not cause they died but that you didn't know HOW they died.. Did they molt and die? Did they eat eachother?... sorry.. it just sounded so funny..
T.saledonia is my DREAM but I'm a brand new keeper. And I don't feel I have the exp to keep them yet.
Y.diversipes was not even on my radar until now. I shall research
Thank you so much for these tips!! So helpful!!
I recently thought about dyeing...
my hair, because it's turning grey.
But they are also falling out, so 🤷🏼♂️
second, btw hi love youre vids you help me alot in this hobby
I love your hat! Where did you get it?
Great video, I'm turned off of T seladonia because I paid $205 and never got. I was one of ppl screwed over by Dustin from simply spiders, lost over 800. 😣
Sorry 😢
@@tarantulakat I'm overwhelmed with 41 so it's ok.
That's crazy, I have Typhochlaena seladonia, I named mine pixie as well LOL before I even knew you had one named that❤😮😂❤
T seladonias are def not my favorite to raise up. The death is too much of a blow to the heart!
Finally someone who gets it! But seeing how many invertebrates you've kept have you tried Pogonomyrmex badius or Pogonomyrmex occidentalis?
My bucket list T is the T. Seladonia but ugghhh...they are so fragile and so expensive right now.
I would say if you want something that makes trapdoors, get an Idiothele mira tarantula. Also, are those millipedes captive bred?
Millipedes are cuter than centipedes anyways 🥰
I want an African Giant Millipede so bad, but you can’t keep them as pets where I am in Canada 😢 I held one at a butterfly conservatory though, they’re so awesome 😄
as far as crabs go from the guy ive known keeping stuff like them successfully most crabs need small tuperwares to live in and otherwise they get stressed and self canibalize and stuff.
informative as always, and the answer is yes, sometimes I think about dying lol
Haha she's funny. I had to pause to see that too. Funny. I too think about it.
I love all bugs, but centipedes, millipedes and trapdoor spiders scare me 😂 yeah, I love my goliaths, but don’t do these small scary buggers 😂 don’t know why my brain is like this…
I passed on the T. seladonia, I really love their looks, so mesmerizing. And where I live, they’re not that expensive. But I‘ve seen most keepers struggle with keeping them and lots of losses, so I said no to buying this species. Camel spiders are not available here, don’t know why, but I would pass on them, as they’re not doing well in captivity.
My never again are any kind of Avic or/and Caribena sp. 😢 I had a hard time keeing them alive, constantly problems with raising slings, so I gave them to a friend who has a „green thumb“ with these ones.
Meanwhile, I don’t have problems with other arboreals. But I don’t want to experiment with living creatures on why I am too dumb to keep them alive.
And I don’t do a scorpion communal again, after setting one up with adult Euscorpius italicus, ending up with 1 fat scorpion alone 🙈😱 so now all my scorpions got their own enclosures where they live a happy life.
this is too sad… i was thinking of caring for a trapdoor spider because they are so gorgeous and impressive but i didn’t stop once to think about how trapdoor spiders are burrowing animals…
You weren’t lucky with your trapdoors.
I see my Liphistius ornatus (2 years old) 0,5second per month, each time I feed her.
It happened she didn’t eat during 2 months, but, when she eats, I always see her.
Trapdoor is highly venomous. Am i correct?
Hey kat. I have a question . I do keep a few praying mantis and i kept cork barks collected from wild in the enclosure which within few days grew a hairy mold like thing . How to avoid this this and is harmful for the mantis ?
Mold is harmful to most insects. I would recommend you to keep your terrarium less humid. You should spray water sometimes so they can drink. However, it should not stay wet and moldy in there so make holes for air or place a net so air can come in and the mantis does not escape.