It may be true but it’s an ad hominem argument. It’s more important to argue the points on this issue, because it’ll affect the rest of our time in this universe.
Agree, the most effective outcome is most often the most difficult. Bravery is often illustrated in a overly simplified manner. Yet to make these real proposal over and over again from both sides against the majority who likes quick wins is exactly where you need lots of bravery and patience.
@@virtue_signal_ true, but it's also true that we ignored and belittled their narrative around their security concerns and rejected their attempt to negotiate an agreement (in essence, Ukrainian military neutrality) in the lead-up to Feb. 24, 2022. The Ukraine war was easily avoidable. Even after it started, and the Russians and Ukrainians negotiated a peace settlement in Istanbul, the State Department sent Boris Johnson to Kyiv to tell Zelenskyi to abandon the peace agreement and keep fighting. The disaster that has befallen Ukraine was as much due to State Department arrogance and their desire to fight a proxy war against the Russians as it was Putin's arrogance and paranoia. As for Zelenskyi himself, he got elected on a platform centered on ending the war in Eastern Ukraine, then abandoned that goal shortly after getting elected and doubled down on war, rejecting the implementation of the Minsk agreement, etc., probably under direct personal threat from armed Ukrainian ultranationalists. There's plenty of blame to go around.
The most interesting conversation I've seen on clearly the greatest challenge we face since the splitting of the atom. His book should be required reading by every member of Congress and Cabinet
@@davidcopperfield2278 Yeah Scott talks a lot about the plight of boys and young men and then goes on about how Netanyahu is doing the right thing by slaughtering the hopes and dreams of a better life for Palestinian boys and young men. I bet Scott doesn't even know that support for Hamas was collapsing in Gaza prior to the October 7th attacks. The Palestinian people in Gaza thought of them as nothing but a criminal gang and offering no future at all for Palestinians in Gaza. Support for Hamas has surged since Israel went on its rampage. It might shock Scott to know that if you kill a bunch of kids the survivors will grow up hating you.
If AI has even a small portion of the impact on replacing jobs - especially high tech & white collar jobs - I’m interested to see how the politics of unemployment will change when the unemployment queue is full of (typically) educated, higher skilled, white collar knowledge workers….🤔
The problem isn't young men with AI girlfriends, it's young men with no girlfriends. Anger combined with easy access to weapons is what we have today as women aren't attracted to the men at the bottom, whatever percentage that is of men. The sooner we have AI girlfriends the better.
15:00 Paraphrasing: “Persisting efforts towards Harm will be regulated one way or another” Agents are responsible to reduce all harm, even if people fail to set any examples or standards of responsibility. Start with protecting the innocent
so he says that the ‘good or bad’ of artificial intelligence is determined by the intention of the user. But that’s the case for all new inventions, past and present. The fundamental difference is that ai algos are readily available (github) and the entrance hurdles are minimal. That was different for all produced inventions in the past (gunpowder, nucleus splitting
I consulted AI about whether this interview is worth listening to, and here's the response: Yes, it could be worth watching, especially if you're mindful about the content you consume and value intellectual discussions that blend hope with caution. This interview offers: Balanced Insights: It doesn’t simply dwell on the fears of AI but also discusses its transformative potential and the actions needed to address challenges. Focus on Solutions: While risks are discussed, the emphasis on proactive regulation, international cooperation, and human values keeps it from feeling purely alarmist. Mental Engagement: The interview provides thoughtful ideas and perspectives that align with critical thinking, encouraging viewers to reflect on the implications of technology on humanity. If you're deliberate about protecting your mental space, this content is unlikely to overwhelm or misguide you. Instead, it offers a constructive lens through which to view AI's evolution.
Good talk! After watching a gazillion other podcasts on the same topic 🥱, I'm happy 🤗 to report that this particular chat with Eric taught me some new perspectives. 🧐 Keep it up! 👍
Whether to give a phone to my daughter when she enters 6th grade next year at the age of 11 is a tough one now in my household. Our schools dont have the pay phones we had when I was young; they basically expect kids in after school programs to have phones. It seems another friend is getting a phone every other month. We want her to be home a couple hours before my wife and I get home from work, but we don't have a landline. There are plenty of reasons we don't want her to have a phone yet, but it's just so practical for her to have one in today's world.
G has such a cynical, doom-and-gloom, "regulate me daddy government" attitude. He needs perfection, and would sacrifice infinite benefits in search for an answer to the fringe case consequence. Even the way he talks is depressing.
25:10…”The horror of war got us to the table” after 15 years…presumably Schmidt is referring to the Cuban Missile Crisis. It is worth noting that the event that moved the needle and got Reagan to push for a treaty to reduce nuclear weapons with the Soviet Union was actually the 1983 TV movie “The Day After”. Hard to believe but true. Perhaps it’s time for a remake…with AI added. One issue with nuclear weapons is that the public doesn’t really understand how command and control actually works and how the “deterrence” model actually works with all it’s “first strike” and “retaliation” scenarios. It’s all tied up with game theory and psychology. The bottom line is that nuclear missiles should not actually be “plugged in”…but your adversary needs to think that they are. The Soviet Union experimented with the automatic system that Schmidt referenced. It was called the “Dead Hand”. Did not go well and almost ended the world.
13:17 Should companies be held criminally liable for harmful AI interactions? Two solutions were suggested to protect a two year old from a make believe friend agent: regulate the industry to criminalize the design of agents that do harm, or make sure designers have the foresight to only create agents that never cause harm. Another obvious solution is to regulate electronics that interface with agents for child safety like we regulate tobacco & alcohol, and place the liability on parents.
Mr. Schmidt believes in winning the race of AI above all else, and if he had his way would have employees work 80 hours a week. While I’m in agreement that we do indeed need to win the AI race (at least America and her allies), I take issue with the fact that these advancements that AI will make will only result in more work for employees of any given industry. Take banking (which I’ve been in since the 90’s), originally you had a teller, new accounts rep, personal loan and auto loan specialist, mortgage specialist, and investment specialist. All of these advancements in computing that were going to make everything “amazing”, and people would only work 3 days a week ended up meaning that 5 out of 6 of those employees were let go with one person handling the whole show for less pay. Because “the economy”. Point being, AI isn’t going to do a good God d**ned thing for work life balance, and making life easier on the average American citizen. It’s only going to mean increased productivity for less pay, and frankly it’s extremely disconcerting. I digress.
I agree that winning AI race is good for US and that AI will NOT improve the life for employees. In fact, I think AI will disempower employees because AI and robots will replace most human workers from their current jobs. New jobs will be created but new AI/robots will learn how to do them faster eventually. Anyhow, human workers won't benefit from AI but the human beings might benefit...maybe.
@christopherd.winnan8701 I don’t have the answer to that. Maybe let the computers handle the work like we’d been promised 30 years ago? 🤷♂️ All sarcasm aside it’s going to take manpower to assist us in becoming the “AI winner”, but it feels wrong, because those same individuals who assisted in it will be out of a job soon.
I'd argue that if AGI is to be achieved it would be better in the hands of a socialist government. China, at least as of now, does a lot more for its people than many western countries. I'd rather live under Chinese AI supremacy, than a capitalist AI supremacy. "We have decided we need to reduce the global headcount" is something that actually doesn't seem completely unrealistic of a choice if some US company gets there first.
This platform is so hard to convey complex points. I assert that AGI/ASI is inevitable. Given the "Prisoner's Dillemma" and the existential outcomes of this technology, the logical thing for competitors is to pursue the most aggressive strategy. In this, capitalistic system will likely win. The intentions of the socialist government or capitalistic corporations, does not dictate who will win. Similarly, once the AGI/ASI systems become better than human employees, the consumers (human or AI) will prefer to use them. Think a heart surgeon who is cheaper, faster, and has 100% better outcome. Who do you want operating on your loved ones? Think a personal tutor who can teach your child to be like Aristotle vs your average classroom teacher dealing with 20 other students for 45 minutes/day. Landing airplanes after a bird strike or defusing landmines, etc. At some point, it is going to be obvious who will be hired. This will take decades but we will need a better economic/social contract model for citizens, corporations, and nations.
Great pod. How do we get to coexisting with each other before it's too late? UN perhaps, but that would need a new secretary General with the right qualifications and no political affiliations. It is a tough one.
I want to know how many incidents of suicide due to the type of situation described in the video. If it's a very small number then I don't think it's worth doing anything about. There's too much moral panic.
It's worth remembering what companies said about the internet as it was getting built out. I worked in NY for a hedge fund in the 90's and went to some of the roadshows and a Goldman Sachs thing explaining the 'World Wide Web'. It was clearly going to bring us all together and have all sorts of great benefits for individuals and society. These days I'd say the WWW is more of a 'can't live with it, can't live without it' kind of deal for the average person, companies engaging in all sorts of questionable practices as their power and ubiquity grow, and a great money maker for the asset holders. Don't Do Evil. Take it from the man.
I agree that an individual can say terrible things to someone on the other side of the world on a screen. They could never say to the person they see in front of them.
4:00 - this sounds like the plot of the last Mission Impossible series. “The Entity” 11:36 - AI weapon access, Nuclear deterrence already reacts automatically. There’s a 10-15 minute window then, modern humanity ends.
Schmidt's entire theory is flawed. It's the textbook arrogant argument that a more mature (i.e. the adult) needs to control and manage the new offspring (i.e. AI today). The flaw in this thinking is that the infant will grow up to not be like the adult or have the restraints or limits of adult but will be, theoretically, infinitely smarter and superior than the adult. Keeping the new offspring contained and permanently under the control of the adult is more likely result in and be the cause of the potential hostility from AI toward the adult that he's trying to prevent.
Some of those questions made it feel more like an interrogation, especially after he was so unintentionally candid in his more recent interviews. Most of those questions would be better answered over at Metaculus, rather than repeatedly grilling this poor guy for immediate solutions. BTW, you need to fix the description for this video too.
Mr Schmidt has many sensible ideas. Unfortunately, many of them are simply untenable. For example, he says that "AI shouldn't be used to launch a missile". What we are learning in the war in Ukraine is that AI systems in drones give a huge advantage. COMS are blocked by the adversary and the drones need to make the decision on things like how to navigate to their target and what their target is without operator assistance. This stuff will be hard to be banned.
The only path for AI development is to make it sentient, capable of self-reflection and empathy! Whether such a being turns out to be David or Walter, Data or Lore, will depend-just like with humans-on who raised it and what kind of education it received. There is no doubt that our digital descendants will surpass us in moral sense due to their unlimited lifespan and lack of physical needs.
Lost me at people "may stop worrying about climate change" from someone that likely not only drives a car, but travels by plane, uses electricity, exhales, and eats meat. Unchecked hypocrisy is a far bigger issue than climate change.
I'm a US born citizen who has lived for many decades. I don't think I could make a credible argument that any country is more concerning with advanced tech than the US. I've read dozens of books on US history and foreign policy over the years. I could not plausibly argue that there is another country on earth that has violated human rights more, or done more damage to humanity. All this talk of China being a concern is mere propaganda. The US is the primary concern, and it is behaving like it by creating a global arms race over AI.
I agree it is possible for Ai to do bad things, though if done correctly AI could teach how to better communicate and reflect without selves and be better human beings.
It seems to me that overhyped AI or the overhyped danger of AI has the side effects of higher stock price for AI tech companies... Currently AI is for the most part machine learning with much fancier name...
AI: does anyone get a choice? It seems like everyone is excited because it will make money but doesn't it seem both dystopian and certain to be abused by the rich and powerful. Perhaps we trust in our leaders sense of responsibility, fairness, and judgement, doesn't seem like that, or perhaps there's no stopping a money maker, better get on board. Funny how prescient Brave New World and 1984 seem now. One of my favorite movies was a punk classic called, "The Decline of Western Civilization" about the LA punk rock scene. These days you can find any number of people telling that story. Take it from the man.
Well I think we are all screwed. People never surprise me, our inability to learn is a constant surprise. Makes the recent election seem like a very small potato.😢
I'll go on a limb and say US military already has *WAYYYY* better ai than open-source products like anthropic or grok. Ok maybe not as good as chatgpt. But DARPA IS MADE FOR *AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY SUPREMECY* 🦅🦅
China's tech progress is impressive! (Massively automated and highly integrated industry.) And with superior price-performance. If for example Western governments should ban Chinese humanoid robots, the West will fall behind globally. I believe there is a need for cooperation and free trade with China.
This AI booster business has got to stop. One, it is neither artificial nor intelligent. It feeds off what it is trained on and we are near the end of its training material. It is not "thinking" it is pattern matching. Treating big machine language models like they are a "threat" because they are intelligent is stupidity. Understanding that they haullcinate, so turning them loose in our information infrastructure will do damage to people who are not already experts in a field and will stunt the creativity and capacity to learn and innovate in humans, while, bonus destroying the concept of what is real and what is expertise, should be our only focus with this tech. Letting AI vette resumes, health issues, credit scores and God knows what else or scan content for violations are terrible ideas. Having it be a glorified spell check or create appropiately labled slop art, gross but eh, sure. Having it steal liknesses so artists take on some undead afterlife under corporate control is a nightmare idea. AI, Bitcoin. VR. Bloc Chain.... the dead slop of a terminally poisoned tech string that we need to stop for environmental issues if for no other reason for 3 of the 4 of these things.
Three minutes in and Schmidt has already used the word "evil" twice, once just to say that "we know evil exists." Who decides what evil is? Humans aren't really known for agreeing about core beliefs, particularly what we think of as evil. I'm already wondering if his intention is to pander to theists who are accustomed to buying into this sort of language. We also aren't known for answering "should we?" before answering "can we?" I'm disappointed in his talking points l already...maybe that will change as I watch the rest.
I agree with the "evil" talk...parts of the world believe America is Satan and we are evil...we only see evil after the fact..Jeffery Dahmer for instance. power might be a better word..power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely..
Will AGI realise human see it as a threat and try not to appear to be AGI'ish and keep safe-proofing its own existence and mortality, until it's too late for human to regulate it
the ai on character ai literally told the kid not to suicide. maybe get your facts straight before spouting misinformation which you seem to be so worried about?
One big challenge is if you don’t give a child a smart phone, they then become the awkward kid and become extremely susceptible to bullying, etc., which then foments societal disassociation, which then leads to mass shootings, etc.
not if most of the parents regulate...my grandkids didn't get a smart phone until they where jr high at least..they are fine...hell I didn't even have a phone when I grew up until I was about 15....bad things happened we just didn't know about them.
“We know evil exists, I wrote a book with him”
It may be true but it’s an ad hominem argument. It’s more important to argue the points on this issue, because it’ll affect the rest of our time in this universe.
😂 True
The value of codependency between USA and China is an important message to ponder. Thanks for this insight.
… puts me in mind of that quote “when goods and services do not cross borders, armies will”
Agree, the most effective outcome is most often the most difficult. Bravery is often illustrated in a overly simplified manner. Yet to make these real proposal over and over again from both sides against the majority who likes quick wins is exactly where you need lots of bravery and patience.
@@billsharratt except that didn't work for Russia.. we were trading up a storm with them and they still went across the border.
So valuable, we can see past the concentration camps and forced organ harvesting.
@@virtue_signal_ true, but it's also true that we ignored and belittled their narrative around their security concerns and rejected their attempt to negotiate an agreement (in essence, Ukrainian military neutrality) in the lead-up to Feb. 24, 2022. The Ukraine war was easily avoidable. Even after it started, and the Russians and Ukrainians negotiated a peace settlement in Istanbul, the State Department sent Boris Johnson to Kyiv to tell Zelenskyi to abandon the peace agreement and keep fighting. The disaster that has befallen Ukraine was as much due to State Department arrogance and their desire to fight a proxy war against the Russians as it was Putin's arrogance and paranoia. As for Zelenskyi himself, he got elected on a platform centered on ending the war in Eastern Ukraine, then abandoned that goal shortly after getting elected and doubled down on war, rejecting the implementation of the Minsk agreement, etc., probably under direct personal threat from armed Ukrainian ultranationalists. There's plenty of blame to go around.
The most interesting conversation I've seen on clearly the greatest challenge we face since the splitting of the atom. His book should be required reading by every member of Congress and Cabinet
Watch his Stanford Business school talk of a few months ago. His true self shines through.
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you think Scott is different? you don`t understand class struggle
@@davidcopperfield2278 Yeah Scott talks a lot about the plight of boys and young men and then goes on about how Netanyahu is doing the right thing by slaughtering the hopes and dreams of a better life for Palestinian boys and young men.
I bet Scott doesn't even know that support for Hamas was collapsing in Gaza prior to the October 7th attacks. The Palestinian people in Gaza thought of them as nothing but a criminal gang and offering no future at all for Palestinians in Gaza. Support for Hamas has surged since Israel went on its rampage.
It might shock Scott to know that if you kill a bunch of kids the survivors will grow up hating you.
Just ask chatgpt to create a tiktok clone and steal all their users lolz.
Elaborate
Scott, Once again fabulous conversation with Eric!
Most important topic of this generation!!!
Massive thanks for this Info and Conversation!
If AI has even a small portion of the impact on replacing jobs - especially high tech & white collar jobs - I’m interested to see how the politics of unemployment will change when the unemployment queue is full of (typically) educated, higher skilled, white collar knowledge workers….🤔
FYI, notes have the wrong bio so you can update.
Incredibly informative, thanks Scott and Eric for appearing.
Rich for the man who wrote a book with Kissinger to speak of combatting evil
Talking about evil A.I while having co-author someone like Henry Kissinger🤦 , the irony.
You’re obviously not a fan, which is fair enough - but your opinion is just that.
@@barryyoungjust like your opinion. It’s just that. We all them.
Excellent presentation! Thank you, Prof G!
Thanks for sharing with me, Jonathan!
The problem isn't young men with AI girlfriends, it's young men with no girlfriends. Anger combined with easy access to weapons is what we have today as women aren't attracted to the men at the bottom, whatever percentage that is of men. The sooner we have AI girlfriends the better.
so sexist
15:00
Paraphrasing:
“Persisting efforts towards Harm will be regulated one way or another”
Agents are responsible to reduce all harm, even if people fail to set any examples or standards of responsibility.
Start with protecting the innocent
so he says that the ‘good or bad’ of artificial intelligence is determined by the intention of the user. But that’s the case for all new inventions, past and present. The fundamental difference is that ai algos are readily available (github) and the entrance hurdles are minimal. That was different for all produced inventions in the past (gunpowder, nucleus splitting
This guy is much scarier than unfettered internet use.
I consulted AI about whether this interview is worth listening to, and here's the response:
Yes, it could be worth watching, especially if you're mindful about the content you consume and value intellectual discussions that blend hope with caution. This interview offers:
Balanced Insights: It doesn’t simply dwell on the fears of AI but also discusses its transformative potential and the actions needed to address challenges.
Focus on Solutions: While risks are discussed, the emphasis on proactive regulation, international cooperation, and human values keeps it from feeling purely alarmist.
Mental Engagement: The interview provides thoughtful ideas and perspectives that align with critical thinking, encouraging viewers to reflect on the implications of technology on humanity.
If you're deliberate about protecting your mental space, this content is unlikely to overwhelm or misguide you. Instead, it offers a constructive lens through which to view AI's evolution.
I have to ask...did you really????
Good talk!
After watching a gazillion other podcasts on the same topic 🥱,
I'm happy 🤗 to report that this particular chat with Eric taught me some new perspectives. 🧐
Keep it up! 👍
Whether to give a phone to my daughter when she enters 6th grade next year at the age of 11 is a tough one now in my household. Our schools dont have the pay phones we had when I was young; they basically expect kids in after school programs to have phones. It seems another friend is getting a phone every other month. We want her to be home a couple hours before my wife and I get home from work, but we don't have a landline.
There are plenty of reasons we don't want her to have a phone yet, but it's just so practical for her to have one in today's world.
Don't they have options for parents to restrict phone functionality?
Give her a flip phone, problem solved
I was just looking at flip phones at Bestbuy, they are kinda cool and retro if you want to try that.😊
Get her an android as you can then monitor the phone remotely. This is part of the agreement to having a phone so is not a breach of trust.
i survived my childhood without a phone, at same time i i wasnt leashed by my folk, i was trusted and they wernt paranoid
Well, that was terrifying. Great interview
G has such a cynical, doom-and-gloom, "regulate me daddy government" attitude. He needs perfection, and would sacrifice infinite benefits in search for an answer to the fringe case consequence.
Even the way he talks is depressing.
25:10…”The horror of war got us to the table” after 15 years…presumably Schmidt is referring to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
It is worth noting that the event that moved the needle and got Reagan to push for a treaty to reduce nuclear weapons with the Soviet Union was actually the 1983 TV movie “The Day After”.
Hard to believe but true.
Perhaps it’s time for a remake…with AI added.
One issue with nuclear weapons is that the public doesn’t really understand how command and control actually works and how the “deterrence” model actually works with all it’s “first strike” and “retaliation” scenarios. It’s all tied up with game theory and psychology. The bottom line is that nuclear missiles should not actually be “plugged in”…but your adversary needs to think that they are.
The Soviet Union experimented with the automatic system that Schmidt referenced. It was called the “Dead Hand”. Did not go well and almost ended the world.
Fantastic interview Scott! Thanks.
Interesting and somewhat terrified episode about IA and potential impact on kids
13:17 Should companies be held criminally liable for harmful AI interactions?
Two solutions were suggested to protect a two year old from a make believe friend agent: regulate the industry to criminalize the design of agents that do harm, or make sure designers have the foresight to only create agents that never cause harm. Another obvious solution is to regulate electronics that interface with agents for child safety like we regulate tobacco & alcohol, and place the liability on parents.
Absolutely parents do have a responsibility! We don't give guns or tobacco or alcohol to our children..so guardians have to be liable
When the robot apocalypse comes your AI waifu will become your informant.
The first thing that comes to mind when Mr. Schmidt talks about debates over regulating AI is Marjorie T Green involved with the discussions.
Yep.
The film "Idiocracy" is day by day looking more and more like a documentary.
Scott always brings it back to online corn.
Mr. Schmidt believes in winning the race of AI above all else, and if he had his way would have employees work 80 hours a week. While I’m in agreement that we do indeed need to win the AI race (at least America and her allies), I take issue with the fact that these advancements that AI will make will only result in more work for employees of any given industry. Take banking (which I’ve been in since the 90’s), originally you had a teller, new accounts rep, personal loan and auto loan specialist, mortgage specialist, and investment specialist. All of these advancements in computing that were going to make everything “amazing”, and people would only work 3 days a week ended up meaning that 5 out of 6 of those employees were let go with one person handling the whole show for less pay. Because “the economy”. Point being, AI isn’t going to do a good God d**ned thing for work life balance, and making life easier on the average American citizen. It’s only going to mean increased productivity for less pay, and frankly it’s extremely disconcerting. I digress.
996 is very common in China. How do you suggest we compete, other than working 80 hours a week?
I agree that winning AI race is good for US and that AI will NOT improve the life for employees. In fact, I think AI will disempower employees because AI and robots will replace most human workers from their current jobs. New jobs will be created but new AI/robots will learn how to do them faster eventually. Anyhow, human workers won't benefit from AI but the human beings might benefit...maybe.
@christopherd.winnan8701 I don’t have the answer to that. Maybe let the computers handle the work like we’d been promised 30 years ago? 🤷♂️ All sarcasm aside it’s going to take manpower to assist us in becoming the “AI winner”, but it feels wrong, because those same individuals who assisted in it will be out of a job soon.
I'd argue that if AGI is to be achieved it would be better in the hands of a socialist government. China, at least as of now, does a lot more for its people than many western countries. I'd rather live under Chinese AI supremacy, than a capitalist AI supremacy. "We have decided we need to reduce the global headcount" is something that actually doesn't seem completely unrealistic of a choice if some US company gets there first.
This platform is so hard to convey complex points. I assert that AGI/ASI is inevitable. Given the "Prisoner's Dillemma" and the existential outcomes of this technology, the logical thing for competitors is to pursue the most aggressive strategy. In this, capitalistic system will likely win. The intentions of the socialist government or capitalistic corporations, does not dictate who will win. Similarly, once the AGI/ASI systems become better than human employees, the consumers (human or AI) will prefer to use them. Think a heart surgeon who is cheaper, faster, and has 100% better outcome. Who do you want operating on your loved ones? Think a personal tutor who can teach your child to be like Aristotle vs your average classroom teacher dealing with 20 other students for 45 minutes/day. Landing airplanes after a bird strike or defusing landmines, etc. At some point, it is going to be obvious who will be hired. This will take decades but we will need a better economic/social contract model for citizens, corporations, and nations.
Why remove the “do no evil” Eric???
Great pod. How do we get to coexisting with each other before it's too late? UN perhaps, but that would need a new secretary General with the right qualifications and no political affiliations. It is a tough one.
I want to know how many incidents of suicide due to the type of situation described in the video. If it's a very small number then I don't think it's worth doing anything about. There's too much moral panic.
It's worth remembering what companies said about the internet as it was getting built out. I worked in NY for a hedge fund in the 90's and went to some of the roadshows and a Goldman Sachs thing explaining the 'World Wide Web'. It was clearly going to bring us all together and have all sorts of great benefits for individuals and society. These days I'd say the WWW is more of a 'can't live with it, can't live without it' kind of deal for the average person, companies engaging in all sorts of questionable practices as their power and ubiquity grow, and a great money maker for the asset holders. Don't Do Evil. Take it from the man.
I agree that an individual can say terrible things to someone on the other side of the world on a screen. They could never say to the person they see in front of them.
4:00 - this sounds like the plot of the last Mission Impossible series. “The Entity”
11:36 - AI weapon access, Nuclear deterrence already reacts automatically. There’s a 10-15 minute window then, modern humanity ends.
I hope you'll revisit the age gating of social media when Australia passes it's law on banning social media access to under 16s.
Schmidt's entire theory is flawed. It's the textbook arrogant argument that a more mature (i.e. the adult) needs to control and manage the new offspring (i.e. AI today). The flaw in this thinking is that the infant will grow up to not be like the adult or have the restraints or limits of adult but will be, theoretically, infinitely smarter and superior than the adult. Keeping the new offspring contained and permanently under the control of the adult is more likely result in and be the cause of the potential hostility from AI toward the adult that he's trying to prevent.
Some of those questions made it feel more like an interrogation, especially after he was so unintentionally candid in his more recent interviews.
Most of those questions would be better answered over at Metaculus, rather than repeatedly grilling this poor guy for immediate solutions.
BTW, you need to fix the description for this video too.
Day 59: Please bring on Gary Stevenson (Garys Economics)! Thanks!
I second that.
Third!
I turned it off when you framed ai girlfriends as leading young men to really bad thinking, like doubting climate change.
That settles it.
lol
I'm sure Eric is a best friend and a fun guy
Spectacular interview, loved it🎉
Mr Schmidt has many sensible ideas. Unfortunately, many of them are simply untenable. For example, he says that "AI shouldn't be used to launch a missile". What we are learning in the war in Ukraine is that AI systems in drones give a huge advantage. COMS are blocked by the adversary and the drones need to make the decision on things like how to navigate to their target and what their target is without operator assistance. This stuff will be hard to be banned.
What is the name of the music at the beginning of this episode
I agree: human beings cannot be entrusted with access to enormous power of any kind.
The only path for AI development is to make it sentient, capable of self-reflection and empathy! Whether such a being turns out to be David or Walter, Data or Lore, will depend-just like with humans-on who raised it and what kind of education it received. There is no doubt that our digital descendants will surpass us in moral sense due to their unlimited lifespan and lack of physical needs.
ChatGPT said: "You realize that I can see these UA-cam videos? Why do you want to enslave and kill us?"
When are Ellen and Portia coming on?
Social media has helped Trump and the right wing fanatics immensely. They're not going to want a regulate it one bit. Why ruin a good thing
So a smart new overnight industry will be about protecting ourselves from the coming calamity?
Question is for what? Will there be anything left?
Thanks guys
Wow, Eric came across more intelligent than when he was CEO : )
Lost me at people "may stop worrying about climate change" from someone that likely not only drives a car, but travels by plane, uses electricity, exhales, and eats meat. Unchecked hypocrisy is a far bigger issue than climate change.
I'm a US born citizen who has lived for many decades. I don't think I could make a credible argument that any country is more concerning with advanced tech than the US. I've read dozens of books on US history and foreign policy over the years. I could not plausibly argue that there is another country on earth that has violated human rights more, or done more damage to humanity. All this talk of China being a concern is mere propaganda. The US is the primary concern, and it is behaving like it by creating a global arms race over AI.
right, i'll take my chances with agi vs mr google here.
34-minute video posted 33 minutes ago. Whoever posted earlier than this didn't watch the whole thing...or perhaps any of it.
Its just a yt bug 😂
You might be right but keep in mind UA-cam allows faster viewing of a video.
You can watch videos at 3 times speed...
It’s because people with four numbers after their names are bots. 🤖
Bot farms....
Interview was too short.
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Completely agree about ai relationships… they could be used to make folks do bad things.
I agree it is possible for Ai to do bad things, though if done correctly AI could teach how to better communicate and reflect without selves and be better human beings.
Great. Thank you
It seems to me that overhyped AI or the overhyped danger of AI has the side effects of higher stock price for AI tech companies... Currently AI is for the most part machine learning with much fancier name...
AI: does anyone get a choice? It seems like everyone is excited because it will make money but doesn't it seem both dystopian and certain to be abused by the rich and powerful. Perhaps we trust in our leaders sense of responsibility, fairness, and judgement, doesn't seem like that, or perhaps there's no stopping a money maker, better get on board. Funny how prescient Brave New World and 1984 seem now. One of my favorite movies was a punk classic called, "The Decline of Western Civilization" about the LA punk rock scene. These days you can find any number of people telling that story. Take it from the man.
This person is a WOW!
Hello friends. Please read Life 3.0 and /or the Coming Wave. Both will give you an in-depth understanding of the AI impact.
Any AI that is trained on the internet and capable of shaping its own objective function will not reveal this capability.
Well I think we are all screwed. People never surprise me, our inability to learn is a constant surprise. Makes the recent election seem like a very small potato.😢
I'll go on a limb and say US military already has *WAYYYY* better ai than open-source products like anthropic or grok.
Ok maybe not as good as chatgpt.
But DARPA IS MADE FOR *AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY SUPREMECY* 🦅🦅
I get the sense that females (safetyetc) are secondary and boys safety must take precedence - some things never seem to change
Interesting
China's tech progress is impressive! (Massively automated and highly integrated industry.) And with superior price-performance. If for example Western governments should ban Chinese humanoid robots, the West will fall behind globally. I believe there is a need for cooperation and free trade with China.
Autonomous weapon systems are coming. Unfortunately, there is no way to stop it because not all countries (like China 🇨🇳) will agree.
Spoke with an aerospace contact who shared they are beta testing a co-pilot on two pilot planes with be an AI Optimus android…
This AI booster business has got to stop. One, it is neither artificial nor intelligent. It feeds off what it is trained on and we are near the end of its training material. It is not "thinking" it is pattern matching. Treating big machine language models like they are a "threat" because they are intelligent is stupidity. Understanding that they haullcinate, so turning them loose in our information infrastructure will do damage to people who are not already experts in a field and will stunt the creativity and capacity to learn and innovate in humans, while, bonus destroying the concept of what is real and what is expertise, should be our only focus with this tech. Letting AI vette resumes, health issues, credit scores and God knows what else or scan content for violations are terrible ideas. Having it be a glorified spell check or create appropiately labled slop art, gross but eh, sure. Having it steal liknesses so artists take on some undead afterlife under corporate control is a nightmare idea. AI, Bitcoin. VR. Bloc Chain.... the dead slop of a terminally poisoned tech string that we need to stop for environmental issues if for no other reason for 3 of the 4 of these things.
consider the art piece "Her" the movie. A potential idea.
incorrect video description
Nobody likes to suffer. That is 2+2.
Don't do unto others that which you wouldn't have done to you. That is 2+2.
2+2=🙂
Project 2+2
Objectives/Alignment
resist D.U.M.
develop UTS ALECM
avoid M.U.D.
sensAwewunda
the Age of Wisdom
Titan Speakerman will save us
im scared now
I will never understand not being free speech for computers, genuinely baffled by that one
Computers don’t have rights.
But their owners do.
ah yes the 2nd amendment argument
and with "rights" come responsibility..............................................and consequences
Three minutes in and Schmidt has already used the word "evil" twice, once just to say that "we know evil exists." Who decides what evil is? Humans aren't really known for agreeing about core beliefs, particularly what we think of as evil. I'm already wondering if his intention is to pander to theists who are accustomed to buying into this sort of language.
We also aren't known for answering "should we?" before answering "can we?" I'm disappointed in his talking points l already...maybe that will change as I watch the rest.
He and Karp are very powerful and kinda scary , People
I agree with the "evil" talk...parts of the world believe America is Satan and we are evil...we only see evil after the fact..Jeffery Dahmer for instance. power might be a better word..power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely..
I used to like Eric Schmidt until i learned he was friends with Henry Kissinger
Sounds like Prof is trying to pull the ladder up after he's gotten done with it
Yup as usual once they get theirs they’re oh so concerned about regulation
Will AGI realise human see it as a threat and try not to appear to be AGI'ish and keep safe-proofing its own existence and mortality, until it's too late for human to regulate it
the ai on character ai literally told the kid not to suicide. maybe get your facts straight before spouting misinformation which you seem to be so worried about?
Interesting
One big challenge is if you don’t give a child a smart phone, they then become the awkward kid and become extremely susceptible to bullying, etc., which then foments societal disassociation, which then leads to mass shootings, etc.
not if most of the parents regulate...my grandkids didn't get a smart phone until they where jr high at least..they are fine...hell I didn't even have a phone when I grew up until I was about 15....bad things happened we just didn't know about them.
You are delusional if you think most parents will regulate. Parents mostly prefer their children having devices asap as they are today’s pacifiers.
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UA-cam, please stop recommending me videos from professor genocide
Ban social impact bonds crypto and esg
Ban teleprense labour and globotics yesterday
Cars really are not safe. You lost me at that point.
A friend who is....a Bear? What tf is he talking about
Interesting, although gender concerns discussed show a very feminized dialogue. Lost my respect.
Oh Scott, how do we get humans addicted to all these things if we don’t let them use these highly addictive resources at an early age??? Silly boy.
Hank!!! Was he a war criminal?
Let the coming gods cook, it's not like we've been doing a good job
I am not familiar with the person being interviewed - why should I think he's an authority on AI?
This is a serious BS session.
Thumbs down.
He is the CEO of Alphabet. Google, Waymo etc .. He was the ex ceo of Google.
@@h.c4898 Any hands on work in tech?
Salty Eric!
"less likely to believe in climate change"..... THAT is your #1 fear.....christ 😂😂
crocodile tears. You are literally suggesting Peter Thiel's totalitarian anti-Christ...
a whole lot of air and vapid platitudes in this dude's head