Is Reality TV Bad for Black People?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Today’s rant, or f*ck it i’m bothered if you will is based off a video that was sent to me on instagram and later I saw that comedian and opinionist D.L. Hughley also posted it on his instagram page. It’s a clip from a podcast called Smitty and Dee. One of my issues with how conversations like these are framed is that it is steeped in the idea that black people have to prove we are worthy of respect, dignity, and humanity.
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It doesn’t matter who creates these shows. The people on them choose to be on those shows and portray those negative stereotypes,
No they definitely fish for drama
disagree because the shows runner know the worst of us makes great entertianment
Jemele you are talking in absolutes. Reality tv is not the sole reader but it definitely contributes to the negative perception of black women. They are hard to watch. Why would anyone subject themselves to such toxicity for fortune and fame?
Sadly their are plenty of poor actors and actresses will sell their souls for a paycheck 🤯🤦🏾♀️
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I don't even watch reality TV.
1. It's not reality.
2. It's cringe worthy and embarrassing.
I read the title...and saw that I was from my crush, Jemele. The answer to the question posed in the title, yes, Reality TV is terrible for Black people. I go to the mall, and walk people have complete conversations. on the speakerphone. Why? Reality TV started this, and people have accepted it as proper. It isn't. There are many problems in our community, but we do not have to contribute to the perception of our own people. WE should not worry about what White folks think about us, but our image should matter to us.
Love this Jemelle but I also think we also fall in love with the status quo. Which is love and Hip&Hop and start to believe this who we are instead of a scripted reality show.
Thank you 4 talking about this now. I really wanna better ourselves spiritually naturally and physically.
Your point about Black media was dead on. Thanks for expressing that.
I wish that Dave Anderson would’ve added that culture would turn NOT out in droves for a black reality show that was 100% positive. Ratchet behavior has _always_ been the draw.
He has told the COMPLETE TRUTH!! THAT'S WHY I HAVE NEVER WATCHED "REALITY TV"! I WILL NOT support the DEBASE BEHAVIOR SO UNABASHEDLY DISPLAYED by mostly MY ppl, who unabashedly participate in the madness for a check. It's so sad!
Then don’t watch…who cares
Don’t agree with every point but appreciate the conversation being furthered. Just reminded me that I need to buy your book….and to go donate to Roland and this business bully guy
Thank you Jemele, but I will push back. We do need to be careful about how we are portrayed in the media, unfortunately we live in a white world and their standards still apply. Decorum does matter!
Well said, my Sistah. You made it plain. Thank you!
Just speaking for myself only. Reality shows is never good because theses shows will keep supporting hierarchy owners to stay rich by glorifying the extreme pains our culture still endures from previous generations in this 21st century. Its heart breaking😥
It's bad for society.
Umm….. I love JEMELE but it seems she off on his point…..he jus saying the imagery is BAD. and it is…. That’s all
period.
It was appealing to me when I was in high school. But I haven't tuned in for over a decade.
Ms. Jemele i think you and Mike Hill should do an episode about this... P.s. i think you're 100%!💯
Good shit Jemele, love this take on this topic keep doing your thing 💯
Im glad you found your voice and a platform. I just find myself not agreeing with much of your opinions.
Reality TV is degrading all society and we always get it worse. I cant think of a singls redeeming quality thats not offset my many negative outcomes. Live well
Balance.. 🔑 and what does that look like to the community? The 90’s were a special time. What happened? Can RHO(?) subsidize the news viewers? We need a His & Hers annual state of the culture
THANK YOU for breaking it ALL THE WAY DOWN as always sis
I agree with Jemele, this trash is the new representation of BP and it’s a shame! I stay away from BP because of how they act
A: yes. It is
Yes it is
Yes, it's trash just like gangsta rap, hoochie rap, porn and most tell LIE vision programming💀
In some ways yes and no, but me personally I don't like the fights that goes on.
I agree with you on who cares what white people think about us. Please tell me you are not co-signing this foolishness on these reality shows, because believe it or not their are a bunch of young girls out here watching and imitating this tomfoolery. How do I know? I am a high school teacher and I see it play out daily in front of my eyes. The girls fight more and worse than the boys used to. I am not blaming all of this on reality TV, but that garbage is culpable. Please Ms. Hill call this non-sense what it is. Enjoy your work. Peace be with you....
I don't watch any of those Reality
Tv shows ... they are scripted anyway... and plus they only show most of the drama that occurs on those shows
🗣️YUUUUUUP
People forget that during theFamily Matters, Cosby, Different World era, blacks were still facing institutional, structural, and systemic racism.
100% correct!
Yes, absolutely Yes!
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Okay Nah....
I stopped watching this mess years ago.
I listened breathlessly. What Jemele Hill is saying here is what will elevate the black community around the world.
I thought she talk sports you not even regular you one of them
Uh duh where you been....oh you probably one of the ones that watch it religious until you realize this is the trash that bLk people live by now ...where you been
Jemele loved your sports takes. But once you left that and felt you needed to give your opinions about other things going on in society, I think you gave up on something you were really good at. Go join Lebatard, but only talk sports. I would love to see you back at it giving sports takes and having fun instead of tackling serious issues. All these opinions were given with Love.
If we're talking about, let's say the women on Atlanta housewives they are real entrepreneurs
I hear what you are saying Jemele but Dave is correct. Carlos King Love and Marriage Huntsville started about 6 black couples business professionals, now 6 years later people are fighting and throwing drinks on each other. Also, healthy black marriages are not being portrayed in a positive way either.
Hi Jemele, I disagree with you. It seems you are treading the fence, trying to appeal to what is popular. It is so much easier to go along with what is the popular thought of today, than to go against the grain and tell the truth. Reality tv is by far more TOXIC than it is productive to the black community and frankly, society as a whole. The points you made are valid, yet they have nothing to do with what this gentleman said. Your points of discussion towards the end of the video could have simply been a separate video.
This educated, successful, black man told no lies. Instead of you supporting him, as he attempts to steer our community in the right direction by stating HIS VIEWS, you attempted to point out where he was wrong! Why? He seems to be your senior and has lived more life than you also. Not once did this educated man mention anything about white people or trying to be seen as respectable by “them”. Way to deflect! This is about bettering the image of Black women and men in society for our people, our children, our future. Hands down reality tv is by far more TOXIC than it is productive to our community. Basketball Wives, Love and Hip Hop, RHOA, Married to Medicine etc. TOXIC, TOXIC, TOXIC. These are the role models in the black community, our “queens.” Fights, drama, shade, low vibrational story lines. Black women are being exploited and do not even realize it, or maybe they just don’t care because, they are getting “a bag.” Smh . Hope you kept your audience by simping to what is popular. I just wish our people will WAKE UP!! At some point we have to tell the truth and flat out condemn what is clearly destructive to our community. It starts within.
I agree. Well said
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Very well said!!!
I agree with him 20,000 % percent it's hard to support good content when your okie doked into the bad EVERYBODY likes the bad guy and that means bad stuff
I think that sensible people can mostly agree that black reality tv is trash. It’s influence is reflective of people valuing being entertained over most anything else..
The beauty industry topic is a tough one for me. I’m not a fan of pocket watching. But to read what the gross sales are, it’s downright depressing.
It’s financially it responsible to spend that much money on what’s not even necessary, just to go to the convenience store or even work… That money could be going into a better quality of life for families… Just talking being financially irresponsible, beauty products purchases and use is no different than being an alcoholic and weedhead. Little girls are brought up to be ashamed to not have braids and weave before preschool. Totally unnecessary. Women used to only put on wigs, weave, and makeup for special occasions and church. Now everybody thinks they’re a damn model and get into costume before hitting the door…
Fiscally irresponsible.
Black women spend 9 to 1 on beauty products compared to every other demographic in the United States. That is utterly ridiculous and speaks to a deeper issue within Black women.
all we want is more lauryn hill than meg the stallion. more claire huxtables than reality show women, more carl winslow than uncle clifford, more jemele hill than eboni k williams
Don’t you dare come for Megan
is water wet?
Jemele I love you but you tripping this shit is simple it's WRONG!!! & it's definitely affecting our communities in a big way
Jemele, you are either oversimplifying his point or missing it. He's not saying that the stereotypes are deserved or the cause of racism, but that the portrayals reinforce the perception of inferiority and that's not necessarily healthy. I can't stand respectability politics, but denying that these programs are more hurtful than not seems off.
Well said 💯💯
Agreed
Exactly
I totally agree...I honestly think we are giving too much trust to viewers who regularly watch those type of reality shows. In my personal opinion, I don't think many of them have the level of Intelligence needed to differentiate between what's real and what's being portrayed. Perception is reality in most societies....in addition, I do believe we should stop putting too much attention on what whites think of us and start really focusing on what blacks think of blacks.
Here is the common sense response…racism, violence and oppression to/of black women didn’t start or get worse with reality TV…its no different than blaming reality TV for black women wearing wigs or weaves…that didn’t start with Flavor of love. I think her points are clear and accurate…she dismantles the generalizations of his commentary, educates us on what he defines as “entrepreneurial” or not and gives historical reference of how supremacy actually dictates the views of black women. Very clear imo.
Thank you Jemele, your thoughts on this topic are absolutely "on point". 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Great perspective Jemele. A lot of people might not know we were the only race of people that were taught to hate each other. That hate, like racism has been passed on from generation to generation. We are a major part of the problem because we continue to perpetuate these stereo types. There will always be people that will hate us, unfortunately a lot of those people are other black people. We support this ignorance and not positive programming and that is 100% the fault of black people.
🎯 That part.
Both of you are right! How about that?!
Sister, I’ve never watched those Housewives shows, because it demeaned my brain, let along my heart, soul and upbringing.
In my opinion, I feel that it is. The light that they've shown on us is horrible.
Most definitely ruined Our image
Reality TV is bad … period. No, it doesn’t have anything to do with how much respect we deserve … it’s just bad.
That's not what he said but I'm not surprised that a woman would take it that way.
100% it is...enough said
I don't even watch any of that negative BS. And, it's a shame that these people are willing to behave this way on national television merely for money. Buying into the concept "let me secure the bag" ....no matter what it costs me, my children and the community. It's disgusting!
Come on! You took this way left. Representation is a contributing factor, not a direct causal one. His criticism was fair, not because of respectability politics but because of modeling of behavior.
Jemele, I'm not a fan of your potty mouth comments. However, the topic regarding this subject is spot on😢.... Black people need to respect everything black within our race and culture! Period!!!
I don't really watch reality tv because I don't like how black people are portrayed and I'm not really into that form of entertainment. I perfer to watch scripted tv or even UA-cam. But I will admit that since I watch shows like FOX Soul, I know about reality stars because the show does cover reality tv stars.
You totally missed what he said.. i wonder if you are not proving his point. He is trying to give some advisory and leadership to black folk. Stop defending our weaknesses!
What up doe? In some cases yesssssss it has destroyed that black woman's imagine. It's awful and people have been paid or promised something to act foolish in front of the cameras.
I would like it if y’all stop making excuses for these shows and the people who participate in them. We are raising a generation on them and filling their heads with nonsense
Social Engineering is a real thing!
Excellent perspective. No, I no longer watch reality TV, but his analogy, especially black women & anesthesia during pregnancy comment, was off base and very troubling. One black woman doesn't represent another black woman. His narrative is so tiring. LET BLACK WOMEN LIVE!!!
He is expressing his thoughts as he sees it from an external perspective...he wants more positive portrayals of black women on reality TV. Regardless of whether or not we agree or disagree in the black community, perception is reality for those on the outside looking in....
I'll give you $10,000 if you go through the entire interview and told me where I said anything about pregnancy.
Well said Jemele. I am not a watcher of reality TV so thanks for bringing this issues to my attention.
YES.
DaBrat loves Judy reality show shows Judy as an CEO of her company
It depends on what the reality is 😏
Great video and commentary, sis! You are so right which is why some years ago I stopped supporting ignorant tv and music altogether and I don't care who's in them, blk ppl, wypipo, @sians, let-teeno, etc, I stopped supporting it period; blk ppl are not a monolith and each individual BW and BM represent themselves not all blk ppl, please stop doing that (other races of ppl 🙏🏾)
There’s reality tv and there’s the ratchet stuff. We should stay away from the ratchet stuff.
Interesting. Look as grown folks, we gotta understand that the days of brilliant tv are over. Most individuals who done matriculated at Yale, etcetera ain't gon get them "Clair Huxtable" type roles no more. We know that traditional sitcoms have been replaced by reality tv due to massive budget cuts. We know that it costs $1M to produce one episode of a sitcom. It's cheaper to produce reality tv that's easy-breezy. Reality tv is the norm. Sure, black women have to deal w/ negative stereotypes that come behind reality tv, but at the end of the day, it's entertainment and folks are tryna get paid. Reality tv is the way of the world right nah. The days of "Mom, you read my diary?! HOW COULD YOU?!" (runs upstairs and slams door) are over. It's all about drama right nah. Most forms of entertainment have been watered down because we're in a microwave generation where attention spans done decreased and the burnout is instant. Everything is clout-driven and thirst-driven.
Yes it's ridiculous
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Love and hip hop was created by Yandy and Mona scott was her mentor who was later brought into the franchise🙄🙄
Hey Jemele, how are you? Research this please, what black own brands or companies do the NBA, NFL do business with? Officially 🤔...( Kim K's Official deal? BTW Ice Cube got the door closed in his face. You are doing phenomenal job too. 🥂
It absolutely is…!!!! I wish people would talk about it more…we are the only people who our most Beautiful women on tv…n watch them be as ugly as they want to be…n this is a horrible representation of Queens!!! N the younger generation feels like they should act this way…a domino effect…in the most worst way.!!!!!!
I've seen and read so much about the Black professional business owners in Africa and other countries. Never understood why Black women in u.s. hate each other and will throw each other under the bus for $$$/fame/etc. Black ppl won't support other Blacks or hate each other for whatever reasons. There are stories out there that shows other races that rally together and get isht down...in most cases.
Yes. Entertainment is about supply and demand, trash content = big money. Unfortunately or not audiences love a big ol’ mess, the messier the better it’s nothing new. “Reality” tv is a hot mess and it’s profitable and some use it as a form of escapism but it can warp their way of looking at the real world. But if there’s money to be made trust someone is going to make it. But comparing all black women to characters on a tv show is as asinine as comparing all men to say Denzel Washington. Those who choose to believe it are going to believe it anyway.
I agree with the comment about love and marriage very repectful show in the beginning. It made you proud for the oast few years its trash. We do not own anybofvthese shows. But allow ourselves to be used. The fighting is so stereotypical and embarrassing.
Will never stop loving Jamele! Will always watch all ur content…
I don't care what anybody thinks of me! I will always be the man. My parents taught me to be. To stand tall, treat people the way i want to be treated. With respect.
These women that do these crazy things on reality shows and have business and music I don't support them because of their ratchet behavior
So the name of the f/d podcast is nicely dressed/sloppily dressed?
As the Black Women go… so does Black Society.
I agree with you 💯💯💯 thank you. ☀️🙏🏾🌅
entrepreneurs don't have time to be on a tv show.
100% agree with this Brother.
Oh I just love this for Smitty & Dee!!!
You better speak on it 🗣️
Hill the real one
Yes
Heavy.
Yes!
Yes 🙏🏽❣️
I watch some reality TV AND ROLAND MARTIN UNFILTERED!!!✊🏽🗳
First of all I love your hair. I love all your videos. They are informative and sometimes funny. Oprah made a statement. She want hv reality shows on her channel. Now she does. It is all about money and ratings. Keep pushing those informative videos. I will be right there watching. Take care.