**UPDATE** I spoke to Dell regarding availability for the 5G model and they told me that it is definitely coming and expect it to be available early next year.
This is the reason I went with the surface pro 9 arm. I need reliable cellular service. Using a hotspot just doesn’t work well. I am looking forward to dells 5g. I will then sell my surface.
@@paulpaczkowski8366 Will see what New Latitude 2-in-1 will look like. as mine 7200 does have 4G and works perfectly and very convenient to have it rather than connect each time to your mobile. Especially then you are constantly on Corp VPN and even worse if you are on move in train as example.
Hey Andrew, please i will appreciate if you can do a review of the lenovo x1 fold 2022, and a comparison video of lenovo x1 fold 2022 vs dell xps 13 2 in 1 (9315).
Hey Andrew, I spoke to dell as well and the 2 different reps I spoke to say that eSIM is supported for the current versions. Does that mean it already has 5g? Its a little bit confusing
I’m pretty sure the reason why the Surface has a keyboard that can be angled is so it grips better when using it on your lap. For ergonomics you never want the keyboard tilted that way. In fact many ergonomic keyboards tilt the opposite way.
Just an FYI for Americans - Costco has the Surface Pro 9 with standard Keyboard, two year warranty - the i5 Model with 16/256 - $1099.00. - It's a pretty decent deal! I picked mine up last week. Deal lasts through Black Friday!
Your reviews are excellent, but here I have an issue: The pen technology is Wacom AES 2.0, which is not as good as Slim Pen 2 and MS Pen Protocol 2.5, or Samsung S Pen with Wacom EMR for that matter. This Dell device is therefore not really suited for artwork. For many this may be irrelevant, to me it´s one the most important distinguishing features. Another issue is the fact that the MS Surface Pro 8/9 comes with 32gb RAM (for a hefty price tag, to be sure), while this Dell tops out at 16Gb. Since both have "only" integrated Intel Iris X graphics which uses RAM instead of dedicated graphics memory, this could be an issue depending on the size of an image file.
hi there, it seems you're quite knowledgeable when it comes to 2 in 1 laptops. I'm a soon to be college students who is in dire need of a 2 in 1, one that is also near perfect with it's touch/ stylus pen features. Can u recommend any 2 in 1's with said description. Thank you!
@@omarridwan879 I´m assuming you need a full blown PC/Laptop, and not a tablet with a mobile OS, which rules out either iPad (Pro), or the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/9. You cannot go wrong with either Microsoft Surface Pro 8/9, or Surface Laptop Studio, or one of the devices from the 360° series from the Samsung Galaxy Book 3 line. It will depend also on your budget, though. Microsoft Surface Pro 8/9 has the advantage of being a full blown PC with the form factor of a tablet. It weighs around 900 grams, and has a 13 inch screen. My experience is that sketching and painting for a longer period of time within such limits can be tiresome after a while. Built quality is excellent - it feels as if you can play soccer with it and it wouldn´t break, but I would still recommend some sleeve or protective cover in combination with a keyboard. Spec wise, it starts with an i5 (11th gen in the SP8, 12th gen in the SP9) Intel core CPU and at 8Gb Ram and 256Gb SSD, and goes all the way up to 32GB RAM and a 1Tb SSD. 32GB Ram will come with a price, though! SP8/9 do not have a dedicated GPU, they come with Intel Iris X integrated graphics - which is perfectly fine, unless you want to do gaming or some other heavy graphics lifting. Be aware that the integrated GPU will take away up to 2GB from your RAM, so I would recommend going with at least 16GB Ram, independently of your intended purpose. If you shop around, you will still find plenty of Surface Pro 8 devices with a good discount on the original price tag. Where I live, the maxed out SP8 (32GB Ram, 1 TB) started originally at 2.800€, now you can usually find one between 2000 and 2200€. Something to be aware of regarding the Surface Pro9: Originally, in the SP8 you had the choice of 60Hz or 120Hz display refresh rate. Switching to 120Hz will take away about 1hr of Battery life, but has the advantage of better response to pen tip input, which you will notice when writing or sketching. In their attempt to prolong battery life, Microsoft has throttled refresh rate in the SP9 by introducing an automatically adapting refresh rate. I did see people complain that the refresh rate of the display would sometimes become so low that pen input became choppy. This is something you would need to test out on your own. Regarding battery life in general: Forget the claimed 15 or 16hrs battery life, that´s nonsense. Realistically, you can expect 4-6hrs. One thing to keep in mind: Though the SP8/9 are a full blown PC/laptop in the shape of a tablet, put any notion of having both worlds equally available to rest! I had this hope, but in real life this didn´t materialize. The SP8/9 are no tablets, because a) too heavy (900g vs. 650g does not sound like much, but the extra weight will make itself noticeable!), b) too short of a battery life (tablet battery life is about double that of SP8/9), and c) apps for Windows 11 are usually not optimized for touch and pen input. To use the example of Photoshop: Compared to older versions of Photoshop, recent versions are much more designed for pen and touch input, but to work really fluidly in Photoshop you´d still need an external keyboard. Apps for the iPad for example are designed such, that keyboard input is rarely needed.
@@omarridwan879 Moving on to the Surface Laptop Studio: Basically, it has very similar internals as the SP8, but the hardware envelope is wider because you can get versions with integrated GPU or with dedicated GPU, and more harddrive space (if you´re willing to pay for it). The Intel Core i5 versions come with integrated GPU, the i7 with either the Nvidia RTX3050ti, or the RTX2000. If you decide for a version with dedicated GPU, go with the 3050ti, it´s the better allround GPU. This GPU is medium range at best though - on Puget, integrated Intel Iris X will score around 1400-1500, the 3050ti will score around 4500. It´s much more powerful than integrated GPU, but not a racehorse either (current midrange Nvidia 40XX GPUS will score in the realm of 10.000-15.000). One of the advantages of a dedicated GPU: It has 4Gb RAM of it´s own and will not limit the RAM generally available to the device. Surface Laptop Studio still offers only 11th gen Intel core CPUs, and those are getting a bit long in the tooth. 12th and 13th gen CPUs will show considerable improvement in multi core performance, but this will show only in video editing or 3d rendering. Even for working with Photoshop, 11th gen will be plenty of power. Configurations will go up to 32Gb Ram and 2Tb SSD. If you go for a maxed out version, consider the 1Tb SSD - you will pay several hundred euros/dollar more for 2Tb harddrive space, I´d consider spending the additional amount on external HD, which will be much cheaper. The display is 14,4 inches, and slightly less resolving compared with the SP8/9 (SP8/9 have close to 6 megapixels resolution, Surface Laptop Studio around 3,8 megapixels at 2400x1600). The weigth is double that of the SP8/9 (1800 grams). That means it´s not a lightweight. Battery life is claimed 18-19hrs, realistically 4-6hrs. The biggest advantage of the Surface Laptop Studio: You can go seamlessly from laptop mode to tablet mode without having to flip the display 360° around the chassis. Depending on your usecase, this can be quite an advantage as opposed to having to pick the entire device up with one hand, and rotating the display with the other hand. In tablet mode, the display will cover the keyboard though - if you want to work for a longer period of time in tablet mode, you will need an external keyboard as well. This goes also for SP8/9, btw: You can buy a cover with integrated keyboard for the SP8/9, but you will not be able to write, sketch or draw on both devices in laptop mode (such that the keyboard is in front of you). The display will not be sturdy enough and will wiggle under pen pressure, and you cannot rest your wrist on firm ground. Only when the display is resting on the desk in tablet mode will you have a solid surface to write/sketch on. If you´re unsure what tablet mode and laptop mode means, watch some of the review videos. It´ll be explained much better there than I could here with words only More to come!
@@omarridwan879 Let´s go to the Samsung Galaxy Book 3 360° versions, Pro or non-Pro. I looked only into the Pro-version, so I cannot say much about it´s non-Pro variants. They all have one thing in common: Their display can be rotated 360° around the chassis. If you go from laptop mode to tablet mode, you rotate the display such that it will cover the keyboard - which means you´ll need an additional external keyboard (same as in the Microsoft Surface line). Let´s talk about the pen tech for a moment: Traditionally, Samsung offers the S-Pen and has the gold standard of pen input under the hood: Wacom EMR. I´m using Wacom Cintiq displays with this pen technology, and they´re excellent. Microsoft´s Slim Pen 2 combined with the latest iteration of their pen protocol (2.5) has come a long was over previous versions, but is not on par with Wacom EMR. I´d say it´s about 85%-90% where Wacom EMR/Samsung S-Pen is. What are the differences in particular? a) Initial activation force: That is the force required to make a contact of the pen tip with the display register in the app you´re using. IAF is practically zero with Samsung S-Pen, Slim Pen 2 will require a slightly higher IAF. You will probably not notice the difference when writing with the pen, but you may notice a difference when sketching and are laying down very faint strokes or dots in rapid order. With the S-Pen you can be assured that each and every one of them will register, not quite so with Microsoft´s Slim Pen 2. But the differences are really subtle, and depending on how "heavy handed" you are may not notice any differences at all. b) Line wobble: Line jitter has plagued the Surface product line for a loooooong time - until the Surface Pro 8 and the Surface Laptop Studio. Again, not quite on par with Samsung S-Pen, but it has gotten leaps and bounds better. Quite frankly, I consider the faint residual line wobble a non-issue by now, for a simple reason: The faster the pen tip moves over the display, the less line wobble there is. Microsoft has by now so much control over this problem, you´d have to move the pen very slowly to make this visible - but the slower you move the pen, the more jittery and unsteady your hand and fingers will become anyway (try this with a normal pencil on paper). I believe that during writing and sketching, you´ll not notice anything really. On the other side, line wobble is basically unknown in Wacom EMR/Samsung S-Pen territory. c) Tactile experience: Samsung S-Pen has the advantage of feeling most organic, because the pen tip is made of a softer material. Slim Pen 2 does not feel bad, but it gives you the impression of hard plastic on perfectly smooth glas. d) Pen charging: Slim Pen 2 must be charged (but will probably get you through a whole day), whereas the S-Pen does not need to be charged. e) Cost: S-Pen is included, Slim Pen 2 is not (and will cost around 100-120 if bough individually). After all these good news about Samsung´s S-Pen, are there disadvantages as well? Actually, there are: Palm rejection in Slim Pen 2 is 100% perfect and accurate, not so much with the S-Pen. If you set down the palm to begin writing or sketching with the Samsung S-Pen, it is entirely possible that your palm will leave a dot behind before the pen tip registers. You can mitigate this problem by using a drawing glove which will cover your palm (and reduce smudges on the display as a side effect), but the question is if you want to wear one through several hours of lectures. One difference which I find quite mystifying: Microsoft Surface products have in their Surface setting panel a globalized pressure curve setting. On a scale from one to ten you can set how strongly the pen will register with the display, independently of the app you´re working in. In Samsung world, this doesn´t exist, and I do not have the slightest clue why that is so. If the app which you´re working in doesn´t offer that feature, you must accept the preinstalled settings of the driver software for the S-Pen.
@@omarridwan879 Now, what about the differences between Samsung Galaxy Book 3 360° variants and Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio? Well, both have pros and cons. On the pro side for Samsung (and again: Keep in mind I´m more familiar with the Pro-variant of the Galaxy Book 3 360°!): The display is gorgeous - after the 2nd gen of this product offered a full HD 15,6 display with a 16:9 aspect ratio, the 3rd gen version has a 3K 16inch display with a 16:10 aspect ratio. This translates into a lot more real estate to work on. There are still plenty of 2nd gen devices around for less money, but maybe the improvements in the display alone may justify going for the current generation device. The non-Pro versions come with either a 13,3 or a 15.6 display. We talked already about the advantages of the S-Pen. Compared to the 2nd gen, the 3rd gen seems considerably more sturdy. 1st and 2nd gen versions had a fair amount of wobble in the display, and Samsung has gotten rid of it now. As far as hardware is concerned, it´s a mixed bag: On the pro side, Samsung has put 13th gen CPUs in it´s device. Surface Laptop Studio is stuck with 11th gen. There are rumors about a 2nd gen Surface Laptop Studio with some very interesting specs: 13th gen Intel core CPU, Nvidia RTX 4060, and up to 64GB Ram(!!), due to be released in October or November this year. Rest assured this will cost you an arm and a leg, though, and the question is if you can wait this long. So, while Samsung sports the more powerful CPU, it is limited to 16GB Ram, and integrated Intel Iris X graphics, whereas Microsoft offers more Ram, more HD space, and a dedicated (albeit mediocre) GPU. Quite frankly, I´ll never understand why Samsung didn´t equip the Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360, which is specifically geared towards graphic artists, with 32GB Ram and a dedicated mid-range GPU. Would´ve made a huge difference....! As I said earlier, the Samsung display rotates 360°. Though this may seem like a neat trick, personally I believe this may become cumbersome if you have to constantly lift the device and rotate the screen to get in and out of tablet mode to write or sketch on it. The Surface Laptop Studio shifts almost seamlessly from one mode to the other, making your life easier that way. Finally, while the built quality of the Samsung is good, or very good, the Surface Laptop Studio just seems more solid and well put together, as does the MS Surface line in general. To wrap it all up: In the end, it´s 100% your choice, but my gut feeling tells me maybe a Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio fits your needs best. Unless you have a very specific reason to get the best possible drawing/sketching experience in a 2-in-1, I believe the MS SLS will offer more than enough in this department, and if you go for the higher spec´d versions, you will have more of a hardware margin around CPU performance, though admittedly 11th gen Intel core is nothing to become ecstatic about these days. Maybe what should be a consideration for every day usage is the question how much of a bother it will be for you having to charge the pen, as opposed to the S-Pen which is always ready to go, contrasted with the fact that the Slim Pen 2 will attach magnetically to the Microsoft SLS in a nook designed specifically for this, whereas the S-Pen has nowhere to be attached to in the Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 and will have to be stored separately. Anyway, hope this helps!
What I've found from comparing my Surface Laptop 4 (8GB RAM) vs ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (16GB RAM), both AMD, are that Surface Laptop 4 has much faster RAM. As a result, my SL4 is much snappier while having longer battery life. The user experience matters, not the spec sheet. Anyway, the Dell XPS looks like a good alternative. But I think the DDR4 vs DDR5 will matter for some people. Also, for Surface Pro 9, if you use Surface Connect to charge, you have 2 free USB-C ports.
The XPS 2in1 is definetely a good alternative to the Surface.. However, i'm watching this video on the Surface Pro 9 (intel variant), and i'm pretty happy with that decision.
@@1zxtv Is the Surface Pro 9 supposed to have terrible battery life? That's definetely not my experience this far. It's around the same (with same workload) as my Thinkpad T490s. Except the Surface has WAY better standby time. However, i'm running win10 on it, not win11 - this could potentially make a difference.
@@1zxtv I've had my SP9 for not quite a week and I have to tell you this battery isn't bad at all. I got the i5 16/256 ( Costco Sale ) - It's working great!
Ok, Andrew is obviously a bit biased towards Dell, let me tell you why, the surface pro 9 does not just have a dynamic refresh rate as he said....you can also choose 120hz, or choose 60hz or choose the dynamic refresh rate...so really that was biased way too much... Another point that was biased, was the fact that he keeps comparing this to the surface pro 9, but when started talking about speakers, he cut it extremely short...i will tell you why, because the surface pro 9 has front facing speakers and this is a huge point for media consumption and a huge step in audio quality... .... In the end, the dell tablet is good, the surface pro is good, get what you can afford without pressuring yourself because remember, neither will make you productive if you ain't got it in you. Cheers.
@@Mark_T_WintherI am watching this to consider my purchase and am very interested in your comment. Can you please elaborate more on why you picked Win10 instead of 11 on your SP9? Thanks a lot
I bought the 13 2 in 1. The speaker was blown out, and the back got so hot you could fry an egg on it. I sent it back and am now rethinking my selection.
Good review, you surprised me a little bit, I know we chatted when you unboxed it about it possibly underperforming due to the passive cooling. Good to see it close to the Surface Pro 9 in that regard, Good alternative from Dell.
Thanks! Yes, the thermals turned out better than expected under heavy load. As you know I really like the Surface Pro line, but I have to give credit where credit is due. Now only if Dell would put the surface style kickstand.
It’s a little bit off topic. But Dell manages to put in the same space a front facing camera, a pen magnetic holder with wireless charging and a rear facing camera. Most people when Apple announced the new iPad pro said this was impossible. Credits to Dell (or Apple laziness)
The big and interesting aspect to this that sets it apart from the SP9 for me is that it is fanless. No sound is a hugely important thing for folks that are using these things in a recording studio. My SP8 fans are LOUD AS HELL.
Same keyboard cover concept than the original Galaxy Book 12, which is a terrible experience compared to what a Surface Pro with kickstand and keyboard cover gives. More so when you need to use a pen. And let's not start comparing the quality of the two pens: day and night. 👍
The rear camera not being flush-mounted is annoying to me. The connector to the keyboard looks like it would break over time. The Surface Pro 9 doesn't have a headphone port either. They are just going away on devices in general by the look of things. Looks like a good device by the look of it and a better price - but you do loose a few things with this.
Picked up a Yoga 9i 2022 4k 16GB 512GB for $850 shipped. Happy with it except for the poor mechanical trackpad and resonance from the speakers with the chassis.
You mentioned 5G. I saw it was also optional on Dell’s website, but I didn’t see it in the configuration settings. Is there a particular config for 5G? (Or is it just not out?) I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t overlooking something.
I like Surface but this is looking good in terms of value for money.. it only misses the kickstand and 120hz. for me 60hz is also good so its only the kickstand. Comparable surface with less 256GB is 2149 in Canada and this is 1524 with 512GB.. wish surface had better pricing but we know Microsoft dont wont to mess with OEMs. Thanks for the review, great device
@@JohnSmith-gb8hd it is if you compare on specs/price.. i'm ok with 256 but 16GB is nice and future proof. I have a Pro5 now and my first pick is still SURFACE, just love that kickstand. Another advantage is no bloat installed on MS devices that OEMs add. I can deal with that but a normal user cannot and it ruins their experience by running everything at startup
Nice Video. Dell XPS 13 2-in1 is a decent pc and better than the Surface Pro 9. In Australia, Dell's PC is much more expensive than Microsoft's... Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 is AU $2,998.40 i5 standard. Microsoft Pro 9 is AU $2,228.95 i5 Evo + Keyboard(including pen). It depends on what region and what u need it for. But excellent video btw
Looks great, but what alternative is there for the absence of the headphone jack. For my work I do view lots of UA-cam videos and I can’t always let other people listen too, so headphone is necessary. I have a soft spot for 2 in 1s as a programmer, but I never hear if you can install a server on it, like with old laptops.
Never get an xps.. I got one 1 year and 1 month back, look after it as it was gold and out of nowhere the motherboard got damaged along with the power button, the warranty didn't cover it, dell support service did not reply and I lost 1.500€.
Well I have come to the conclusion that I will be returning my surface pro 9 sq3. I tried to use it with my hp Officejet 200 mobile and it doesn't work at all. Researched and researched and nothing is going to work till HP comes out with ARM drivers. Oh well I loved the always on internet connection but if I cant print from the road with this device then its worthless to me. SIGH any suggestions? Why cant they come out with a intel based processor with cell phone modem.
I may be bias here but I'm partial to Dell versus Microsoft. For me personally, the Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 is a much better and less expensive deal as opposed to the Surface Pro 9. From the brightness of the screen to the clarity of the built-in webcam and mics, this is a Win Win for me. Awesome video review once again Andrew!!! 😁
Nice PC for those who want this type of unit. Agree it is a better deal than what Microsoft offers. The one big negative with Microsoft and the way they sell is that everything is offered a la carte which tends to make it quite pricey. The Dell unit has a very good camera and the mics sounded good and clear. Display excellent. Keyboards on both appeared good. Excellent review.
Thank you, Andrew, for another excellent Best Buy Holiday Video. This laptop is better than the Microsoft Surface Pro 9, pure and simple. It would be good to have a better port selection, more options for the kickstand, better coverage of the Color Gamut, but there are many pluses. Thanks for the great reviews.
What made the XPS great is the 5g. I don't think they ever going to release the 5g version. They announced this back in June, here it is going on Dec and No 5g.
Hello, im a newbie to computer tech and wanted a laptop for my engineering projects (I use programs that have simulations, modelling and coding like cad/aspen/Matlab etc.) and I wanted a laptop that can handle things without crashing or lagging but has decent battery life. I found the xps15 perfect but then I saw how everyone says it needs to be plugged in otherwise it crashes on programs and overheats. What is a laptop that can handle heavy things like xps15 but doesn’t come with these issues? Thx
When it comes to engineering and 3d programs like CAD, you're better off going with a laptop that has a dedicated GPU. It can run simulations and is exactly what you need in engineering. I'm in civil engineering and I use an ROG Zephyrus that has a 3060. It doesn't lag. I use AutoCAD, Revit, even Vegas Pro for video editing. Highly recommend. A productivity laptop like the Surface Pro or XPS 2 in 1 are great for note taking.. but they don't have the graphical power needed for our use case
Andrew, if there was any hope that Microsoft might send you products for review, that probably ended with your title. 😁 However, I agree with your conclusion.
Hi Brent, I actually really don't care if they send me any products. After 6 years of grinding, over 31 million views and just about 134,000 followers, if Microsoft can't see the reach and benefit of my channel, then so be it. At the end of the day I care about my audience and that is who I am an advocate for. Thanks.
Soo lucky I got the Lenovo Flex 5, Ryzen 7 5700u 16GB 512GB for 49,999 php(tax included) in my country(from an outlet in a mall, nonetheless). That works out to around a mere $649 before all the taxes in the US. Nevermind the lackluster screen and non metal finish, it's still an absolute steal!
Comparing to my current Dell Latitude 7200 2-in-1, this new stand is much worse and less desirable as for me. Currently during working hours, I may detach a keyboard, connect to display with wirelessly connected keyboard and mouse via Thunderbolt cable and may stand this small "screen" anywhere around with any angel. After work, I may bring my Latitude to home desktop, stand it aside without keyboard and share Dell KM7321 Multidevice Wireless keyboard and Mouse across both these devices just switching between them. Considering all these told, there is not any benefit of having this device. The only option, it is to bring it into bed. Ordinary laptop would be more preferable. The only thing about this "laptop" it is desperately anticipated passively cooled laptops on Intel CPU. As mine almost never switches its fan on, in how I use it. So, very doubtful fan installing there was.
@@andrewmarcdavid There's a few problems with that "lower price" argument. First, the Surface products generally are nore reliable than Dell, who has multiple known QC issues over the past 5 years with this XPS line. And second, if the SSD in a recent Surface device fails, you can either replace it yourself (the Surface Pro devices) or get a technican to do just that repair (the Surface Laptops 3 & later), which prevents e-waste, saves you money, and is overall better. Dell is going really too far into that method, so while it may seem you pay less, you kinda get what you pay for.
hmm... Fanless as pro... definitely a difference in criteria. I like your vids, but can't take this seriously. Thermal throttling is a serious issue, even with 12 gen mobile i5. It needs a fan for any serious work.
This has the lower watt CPU where the Surface Pro 9 has the 15w CPUs and still gets better battery. Overall I think the Latitude version of this might be a better device vs the XPS. Dell just needs to move into the ARM CPUs.
@@andrewmarcdavid I'm sorry Andrew, but I have to agree with the original commentor. The Surface is much more repair friendly than the recent XPS 13 (9315 & tablet). And that saves money in the long run and prevents e-waste.
**UPDATE** I spoke to Dell regarding availability for the 5G model and they told me that it is definitely coming and expect it to be available early next year.
This is the reason I went with the surface pro 9 arm. I need reliable cellular service. Using a hotspot just doesn’t work well. I am looking forward to dells 5g. I will then sell my surface.
@@paulpaczkowski8366 Will see what New Latitude 2-in-1 will look like.
as mine 7200 does have 4G and works perfectly and very convenient to have it rather than connect each time to your mobile. Especially then you are constantly on Corp VPN and even worse if you are on move in train as example.
Hey Andrew, please i will appreciate if you can do a review of the lenovo x1 fold 2022, and a comparison video of lenovo x1 fold 2022 vs dell xps 13 2 in 1 (9315).
Hey Andrew, I spoke to dell as well and the 2 different reps I spoke to say that eSIM is supported for the current versions. Does that mean it already has 5g? Its a little bit confusing
@@Mcyl152 5G is not available yet but early next year
I’m pretty sure the reason why the Surface has a keyboard that can be angled is so it grips better when using it on your lap. For ergonomics you never want the keyboard tilted that way. In fact many ergonomic keyboards tilt the opposite way.
the video quality that it records is pretty mind blowing!
Camera placement kills it...., Must be annoying to draw on if you lay it on the table.
This. I use my Surface to take notes while it's laying flat on a table. Camera bump makes the Xps unusable for me
You might solve it with back cover but i can understand you
Just an FYI for Americans - Costco has the Surface Pro 9 with standard Keyboard, two year warranty - the i5 Model with 16/256 - $1099.00. - It's a pretty decent deal! I picked mine up last week. Deal lasts through Black Friday!
Your reviews are excellent, but here I have an issue: The pen technology is Wacom AES 2.0, which is not as good as Slim Pen 2 and MS Pen Protocol 2.5, or Samsung S Pen with Wacom EMR for that matter. This Dell device is therefore not really suited for artwork. For many this may be irrelevant, to me it´s one the most important distinguishing features. Another issue is the fact that the MS Surface Pro 8/9 comes with 32gb RAM (for a hefty price tag, to be sure), while this Dell tops out at 16Gb. Since both have "only" integrated Intel Iris X graphics which uses RAM instead of dedicated graphics memory, this could be an issue depending on the size of an image file.
hi there, it seems you're quite knowledgeable when it comes to 2 in 1 laptops. I'm a soon to be college students who is in dire need of a 2 in 1, one that is also near perfect with it's touch/ stylus pen features. Can u recommend any 2 in 1's with said description. Thank you!
@@omarridwan879 I´m assuming you need a full blown PC/Laptop, and not a tablet with a mobile OS, which rules out either iPad (Pro), or the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/9.
You cannot go wrong with either Microsoft Surface Pro 8/9, or Surface Laptop Studio, or one of the devices from the 360° series from the Samsung Galaxy Book 3 line. It will depend also on your budget, though.
Microsoft Surface Pro 8/9 has the advantage of being a full blown PC with the form factor of a tablet. It weighs around 900 grams, and has a 13 inch screen. My experience is that sketching and painting for a longer period of time within such limits can be tiresome after a while. Built quality is excellent - it feels as if you can play soccer with it and it wouldn´t break, but I would still recommend some sleeve or protective cover in combination with a keyboard.
Spec wise, it starts with an i5 (11th gen in the SP8, 12th gen in the SP9) Intel core CPU and at 8Gb Ram and 256Gb SSD, and goes all the way up to 32GB RAM and a 1Tb SSD.
32GB Ram will come with a price, though!
SP8/9 do not have a dedicated GPU, they come with Intel Iris X integrated graphics - which is perfectly fine, unless you want to do gaming or some other heavy graphics lifting. Be aware that the integrated GPU will take away up to 2GB from your RAM, so I would recommend going with at least 16GB Ram, independently of your intended purpose.
If you shop around, you will still find plenty of Surface Pro 8 devices with a good discount on the original price tag. Where I live, the maxed out SP8 (32GB Ram, 1 TB) started originally at 2.800€, now you can usually find one between 2000 and 2200€.
Something to be aware of regarding the Surface Pro9: Originally, in the SP8 you had the choice of 60Hz or 120Hz display refresh rate. Switching to 120Hz will take away about 1hr of Battery life, but has the advantage of better response to pen tip input, which you will notice when writing or sketching. In their attempt to prolong battery life, Microsoft has throttled refresh rate in the SP9 by introducing an automatically adapting refresh rate. I did see people complain that the refresh rate of the display would sometimes become so low that pen input became choppy. This is something you would need to test out on your own.
Regarding battery life in general: Forget the claimed 15 or 16hrs battery life, that´s nonsense. Realistically, you can expect 4-6hrs.
One thing to keep in mind: Though the SP8/9 are a full blown PC/laptop in the shape of a tablet, put any notion of having both worlds equally available to rest! I had this hope, but in real life this didn´t materialize. The SP8/9 are no tablets, because a) too heavy (900g vs. 650g does not sound like much, but the extra weight will make itself noticeable!), b) too short of a battery life (tablet battery life is about double that of SP8/9), and c) apps for Windows 11 are usually not optimized for touch and pen input. To use the example of Photoshop: Compared to older versions of Photoshop, recent versions are much more designed for pen and touch input, but to work really fluidly in Photoshop you´d still need an external keyboard. Apps for the iPad for example are designed such, that keyboard input is rarely needed.
@@omarridwan879 Moving on to the Surface Laptop Studio: Basically, it has very similar internals as the SP8, but the hardware envelope is wider because you can get versions with integrated GPU or with dedicated GPU, and more harddrive space (if you´re willing to pay for it). The Intel Core i5 versions come with integrated GPU, the i7 with either the Nvidia RTX3050ti, or the RTX2000. If you decide for a version with dedicated GPU, go with the 3050ti, it´s the better allround GPU.
This GPU is medium range at best though - on Puget, integrated Intel Iris X will score around 1400-1500, the 3050ti will score around 4500. It´s much more powerful than integrated GPU, but not a racehorse either (current midrange Nvidia 40XX GPUS will score in the realm of 10.000-15.000). One of the advantages of a dedicated GPU: It has 4Gb RAM of it´s own and will not limit the RAM generally available to the device.
Surface Laptop Studio still offers only 11th gen Intel core CPUs, and those are getting a bit long in the tooth. 12th and 13th gen CPUs will show considerable improvement in multi core performance, but this will show only in video editing or 3d rendering. Even for working with Photoshop, 11th gen will be plenty of power.
Configurations will go up to 32Gb Ram and 2Tb SSD. If you go for a maxed out version, consider the 1Tb SSD - you will pay several hundred euros/dollar more for 2Tb harddrive space, I´d consider spending the additional amount on external HD, which will be much cheaper.
The display is 14,4 inches, and slightly less resolving compared with the SP8/9 (SP8/9 have close to 6 megapixels resolution, Surface Laptop Studio around 3,8 megapixels at 2400x1600). The weigth is double that of the SP8/9 (1800 grams). That means it´s not a lightweight. Battery life is claimed 18-19hrs, realistically 4-6hrs.
The biggest advantage of the Surface Laptop Studio: You can go seamlessly from laptop mode to tablet mode without having to flip the display 360° around the chassis. Depending on your usecase, this can be quite an advantage as opposed to having to pick the entire device up with one hand, and rotating the display with the other hand.
In tablet mode, the display will cover the keyboard though - if you want to work for a longer period of time in tablet mode, you will need an external keyboard as well. This goes also for SP8/9, btw: You can buy a cover with integrated keyboard for the SP8/9, but you will not be able to write, sketch or draw on both devices in laptop mode (such that the keyboard is in front of you). The display will not be sturdy enough and will wiggle under pen pressure, and you cannot rest your wrist on firm ground. Only when the display is resting on the desk in tablet mode will you have a solid surface to write/sketch on.
If you´re unsure what tablet mode and laptop mode means, watch some of the review videos. It´ll be explained much better there than I could here with words only
More to come!
@@omarridwan879 Let´s go to the Samsung Galaxy Book 3 360° versions, Pro or non-Pro. I looked only into the Pro-version, so I cannot say much about it´s non-Pro variants.
They all have one thing in common: Their display can be rotated 360° around the chassis. If you go from laptop mode to tablet mode, you rotate the display such that it will cover the keyboard - which means you´ll need an additional external keyboard (same as in the Microsoft Surface line).
Let´s talk about the pen tech for a moment: Traditionally, Samsung offers the S-Pen and has the gold standard of pen input under the hood: Wacom EMR. I´m using Wacom Cintiq displays with this pen technology, and they´re excellent. Microsoft´s Slim Pen 2 combined with the latest iteration of their pen protocol (2.5) has come a long was over previous versions, but is not on par with Wacom EMR. I´d say it´s about 85%-90% where Wacom EMR/Samsung S-Pen is.
What are the differences in particular?
a) Initial activation force: That is the force required to make a contact of the pen tip with the display register in the app you´re using. IAF is practically zero with Samsung S-Pen, Slim Pen 2 will require a slightly higher IAF. You will probably not notice the difference when writing with the pen, but you may notice a difference when sketching and are laying down very faint strokes or dots in rapid order. With the S-Pen you can be assured that each and every one of them will register, not quite so with Microsoft´s Slim Pen 2. But the differences are really subtle, and depending on how "heavy handed" you are may not notice any differences at all.
b) Line wobble: Line jitter has plagued the Surface product line for a loooooong time - until the Surface Pro 8 and the Surface Laptop Studio. Again, not quite on par with Samsung S-Pen, but it has gotten leaps and bounds better. Quite frankly, I consider the faint residual line wobble a non-issue by now, for a simple reason: The faster the pen tip moves over the display, the less line wobble there is. Microsoft has by now so much control over this problem, you´d have to move the pen very slowly to make this visible - but the slower you move the pen, the more jittery and unsteady your hand and fingers will become anyway (try this with a normal pencil on paper). I believe that during writing and sketching, you´ll not notice anything really. On the other side, line wobble is basically unknown in Wacom EMR/Samsung S-Pen territory.
c) Tactile experience: Samsung S-Pen has the advantage of feeling most organic, because the pen tip is made of a softer material. Slim Pen 2 does not feel bad, but it gives you the impression of hard plastic on perfectly smooth glas.
d) Pen charging: Slim Pen 2 must be charged (but will probably get you through a whole day), whereas the S-Pen does not need to be charged.
e) Cost: S-Pen is included, Slim Pen 2 is not (and will cost around 100-120 if bough individually).
After all these good news about Samsung´s S-Pen, are there disadvantages as well? Actually, there are: Palm rejection in Slim Pen 2 is 100% perfect and accurate, not so much with the S-Pen. If you set down the palm to begin writing or sketching with the Samsung S-Pen, it is entirely possible that your palm will leave a dot behind before the pen tip registers. You can mitigate this problem by using a drawing glove which will cover your palm (and reduce smudges on the display as a side effect), but the question is if you want to wear one through several hours of lectures.
One difference which I find quite mystifying: Microsoft Surface products have in their Surface setting panel a globalized pressure curve setting. On a scale from one to ten you can set how strongly the pen will register with the display, independently of the app you´re working in. In Samsung world, this doesn´t exist, and I do not have the slightest clue why that is so. If the app which you´re working in doesn´t offer that feature, you must accept the preinstalled settings of the driver software for the S-Pen.
@@omarridwan879 Now, what about the differences between Samsung Galaxy Book 3 360° variants and Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio? Well, both have pros and cons.
On the pro side for Samsung (and again: Keep in mind I´m more familiar with the Pro-variant of the Galaxy Book 3 360°!): The display is gorgeous - after the 2nd gen of this product offered a full HD 15,6 display with a 16:9 aspect ratio, the 3rd gen version has a 3K 16inch display with a 16:10 aspect ratio. This translates into a lot more real estate to work on. There are still plenty of 2nd gen devices around for less money, but maybe the improvements in the display alone may justify going for the current generation device.
The non-Pro versions come with either a 13,3 or a 15.6 display.
We talked already about the advantages of the S-Pen.
Compared to the 2nd gen, the 3rd gen seems considerably more sturdy. 1st and 2nd gen versions had a fair amount of wobble in the display, and Samsung has gotten rid of it now.
As far as hardware is concerned, it´s a mixed bag: On the pro side, Samsung has put 13th gen CPUs in it´s device. Surface Laptop Studio is stuck with 11th gen. There are rumors about a 2nd gen Surface Laptop Studio with some very interesting specs: 13th gen Intel core CPU, Nvidia RTX 4060, and up to 64GB Ram(!!), due to be released in October or November this year. Rest assured this will cost you an arm and a leg, though, and the question is if you can wait this long.
So, while Samsung sports the more powerful CPU, it is limited to 16GB Ram, and integrated Intel Iris X graphics, whereas Microsoft offers more Ram, more HD space, and a dedicated (albeit mediocre) GPU. Quite frankly, I´ll never understand why Samsung didn´t equip the Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360, which is specifically geared towards graphic artists, with 32GB Ram and a dedicated mid-range GPU. Would´ve made a huge difference....!
As I said earlier, the Samsung display rotates 360°. Though this may seem like a neat trick, personally I believe this may become cumbersome if you have to constantly lift the device and rotate the screen to get in and out of tablet mode to write or sketch on it. The Surface Laptop Studio shifts almost seamlessly from one mode to the other, making your life easier that way.
Finally, while the built quality of the Samsung is good, or very good, the Surface Laptop Studio just seems more solid and well put together, as does the MS Surface line in general.
To wrap it all up: In the end, it´s 100% your choice, but my gut feeling tells me maybe a Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio fits your needs best. Unless you have a very specific reason to get the best possible drawing/sketching experience in a 2-in-1, I believe the MS SLS will offer more than enough in this department, and if you go for the higher spec´d versions, you will have more of a hardware margin around CPU performance, though admittedly 11th gen Intel core is nothing to become ecstatic about these days. Maybe what should be a consideration for every day usage is the question how much of a bother it will be for you having to charge the pen, as opposed to the S-Pen which is always ready to go, contrasted with the fact that the Slim Pen 2 will attach magnetically to the Microsoft SLS in a nook designed specifically for this, whereas the S-Pen has nowhere to be attached to in the Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 and will have to be stored separately.
Anyway, hope this helps!
I had no idea De Niro reviewed tech. What a legend!
hahaha I thought the same
What I've found from comparing my Surface Laptop 4 (8GB RAM) vs ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (16GB RAM), both AMD, are that Surface Laptop 4 has much faster RAM. As a result, my SL4 is much snappier while having longer battery life. The user experience matters, not the spec sheet.
Anyway, the Dell XPS looks like a good alternative. But I think the DDR4 vs DDR5 will matter for some people. Also, for Surface Pro 9, if you use Surface Connect to charge, you have 2 free USB-C ports.
Thanks for sharing.
Top notch as always 🎉 I always search your page whenever okie curious about a device!
Thanks really appreciate it!
The XPS 2in1 is definetely a good alternative to the Surface.. However, i'm watching this video on the Surface Pro 9 (intel variant), and i'm pretty happy with that decision.
how much of the video did you get through before your battery died?
@@1zxtv Is the Surface Pro 9 supposed to have terrible battery life?
That's definetely not my experience this far.
It's around the same (with same workload) as my Thinkpad T490s.
Except the Surface has WAY better standby time.
However, i'm running win10 on it, not win11 - this could potentially make a difference.
@@1zxtv I've had my SP9 for not quite a week and I have to tell you this battery isn't bad at all. I got the i5 16/256 ( Costco Sale ) - It's working great!
Ok, Andrew is obviously a bit biased towards Dell, let me tell you why, the surface pro 9 does not just have a dynamic refresh rate as he said....you can also choose 120hz, or choose 60hz or choose the dynamic refresh rate...so really that was biased way too much...
Another point that was biased, was the fact that he keeps comparing this to the surface pro 9, but when started talking about speakers, he cut it extremely short...i will tell you why, because the surface pro 9 has front facing speakers and this is a huge point for media consumption and a huge step in audio quality...
.... In the end, the dell tablet is good, the surface pro is good, get what you can afford without pressuring yourself because remember, neither will make you productive if you ain't got it in you.
Cheers.
@@Mark_T_WintherI am watching this to consider my purchase and am very interested in your comment. Can you please elaborate more on why you picked Win10 instead of 11 on your SP9? Thanks a lot
I bought the 13 2 in 1. The speaker was blown out, and the back got so hot you could fry an egg on it. I sent it back and am now rethinking my selection.
Good review, you surprised me a little bit, I know we chatted when you unboxed it about it possibly underperforming due to the passive cooling. Good to see it close to the Surface Pro 9 in that regard, Good alternative from Dell.
Thanks! Yes, the thermals turned out better than expected under heavy load. As you know I really like the Surface Pro line, but I have to give credit where credit is due. Now only if Dell would put the surface style kickstand.
@@andrewmarcdavid Andrew that is what cases are for. Most folk are going to protect it with a case. Most cases come with different viewing options.
It’s a little bit off topic.
But Dell manages to put in the same space a front facing camera, a pen magnetic holder with wireless charging and a rear facing camera.
Most people when Apple announced the new iPad pro said this was impossible.
Credits to Dell (or Apple laziness)
The big and interesting aspect to this that sets it apart from the SP9 for me is that it is fanless.
No sound is a hugely important thing for folks that are using these things in a recording studio. My SP8 fans are LOUD AS HELL.
Why use a laptop for studio work?
@@ared18t most voice actor studios are pretty small. Space is at a premium.
The amount of surface pro screens I had to fix in my lifetime.......forget it. This one is a winner
Same keyboard cover concept than the original Galaxy Book 12, which is a terrible experience compared to what a Surface Pro with kickstand and keyboard cover gives. More so when you need to use a pen. And let's not start comparing the quality of the two pens: day and night. 👍
I forgot surface pro series since it’s third version. It’s battery bulged pushing the monitor screen from its seams.
The rear camera not being flush-mounted is annoying to me. The connector to the keyboard looks like it would break over time. The Surface Pro 9 doesn't have a headphone port either. They are just going away on devices in general by the look of things.
Looks like a good device by the look of it and a better price - but you do loose a few things with this.
Nice, detailed review. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Picked up a Yoga 9i 2022 4k 16GB 512GB for $850 shipped. Happy with it except for the poor mechanical trackpad and resonance from the speakers with the chassis.
You mentioned 5G. I saw it was also optional on Dell’s website, but I didn’t see it in the configuration settings. Is there a particular config for 5G? (Or is it just not out?) I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t overlooking something.
5G is coming early next year
I like Surface but this is looking good in terms of value for money.. it only misses the kickstand and 120hz. for me 60hz is also good so its only the kickstand. Comparable surface with less 256GB is 2149 in Canada and this is 1524 with 512GB.. wish surface had better pricing but we know Microsoft dont wont to mess with OEMs. Thanks for the review, great device
If you value the kickstand, 120hz, good pen performance, or lappable keyboard inclination, then this Dell is not good value for money.
@@JohnSmith-gb8hd it is if you compare on specs/price.. i'm ok with 256 but 16GB is nice and future proof. I have a Pro5 now and my first pick is still SURFACE, just love that kickstand. Another advantage is no bloat installed on MS devices that OEMs add. I can deal with that but a normal user cannot and it ruins their experience by running everything at startup
So, is Dell ditching the Dell 7320 detachable in favor of the XPS 2-IN-1 model?
Nice review. I am subscribing.
Thanks 🙏
I am waiting for the second generation. Like you said lets hope it comes with a kick stand. Surface pro 9 has better video and pic quality.
Amazing review!
Nice Video. Dell XPS 13 2-in1 is a decent pc and better than the Surface Pro 9. In Australia, Dell's PC is much more expensive than Microsoft's...
Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 is AU $2,998.40 i5 standard.
Microsoft Pro 9 is AU $2,228.95 i5 Evo + Keyboard(including pen).
It depends on what region and what u need it for. But excellent video btw
Surface pro 9 is still better u can upgrade the SSD easily and has better battery life
Looks great, but what alternative is there for the absence of the headphone jack. For my work I do view lots of UA-cam videos and I can’t always let other people listen too, so headphone is necessary. I have a soft spot for 2 in 1s as a programmer, but I never hear if you can install a server on it, like with old laptops.
It has Bluetooth and it comes with headphone adapter to USB C for wired headphones
This is interesting. If launch prices werent so bad for high end devices I would have regret buying my yoga. Thanks as always Andrew.
Could you talk more about the 5G option?
I will ask Dell when it will be available.
Unfortunately, I had very bad try with dell 5290 2in1 , Windows tablet , bad screen , very bad battery 🔋 life , some functions not supported ??
Thanks Andrew, great vid. You're 'coming up' was 10% off, apart from that, perfect.
Yes I need to up my “coming up” game 😂
Never get an xps.. I got one 1 year and 1 month back, look after it as it was gold and out of nowhere the motherboard got damaged along with the power button, the warranty didn't cover it, dell support service did not reply and I lost 1.500€.
Can the keyboard fold all the way underneath and back (keys facing the desk)?
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Since it is fanless does it heat up in my hands as a tablet? I hate that.
Well I have come to the conclusion that I will be returning my surface pro 9 sq3. I tried to use it with my hp Officejet 200 mobile and it doesn't work at all. Researched and researched and nothing is going to work till HP comes out with ARM drivers. Oh well I loved the always on internet connection but if I cant print from the road with this device then its worthless to me. SIGH any suggestions? Why cant they come out with a intel based processor with cell phone modem.
Can we use this for Graphic design software like illustration etc..?
I may be bias here but I'm partial to Dell versus Microsoft. For me personally, the Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 is a much better and less expensive deal as opposed to the Surface Pro 9. From the brightness of the screen to the clarity of the built-in webcam and mics, this is a Win Win for me. Awesome video review once again Andrew!!! 😁
Best "coming up" ever !
Doesn’t the XPS13 have a 720p camera? Does this have a better webcam than the premium laptop model?
Yes this is far superior when it comes to camera
XPS 13 Plus or Surface Pro 9?
Andrew, love your reviews. But slow down a bit. Comes close to rambling for international viewers.
How is the eGPU performance on this tablet?
How this compares to fold laptop like x1 fold?
Why has the Live unboxings frequency dropped
New stuff coming for live unboxings stay tuned
Nice PC for those who want this type of unit. Agree it is a better deal than what Microsoft offers. The one big negative with Microsoft and the way they sell is that everything is offered a la carte which tends to make it quite pricey. The Dell unit has a very good camera and the mics sounded good and clear. Display excellent. Keyboards on both appeared good. Excellent review.
Thanks William!
So 5g atm is not available?
Thank you, Andrew, for another excellent Best Buy Holiday Video. This laptop is better than the Microsoft Surface Pro 9, pure and simple. It would be good to have a better port selection, more options for the kickstand, better coverage of the Color Gamut, but there are many pluses. Thanks for the great reviews.
Thanks Dean, appreciate it!
What made the XPS great is the 5g. I don't think they ever going to release the 5g version. They announced this back in June, here it is going on Dec and No 5g.
I just spoke with Dell and 5G model is coming early next year
@@andrewmarcdavid That’s the thing early next year with no official launch date. Come on dell.
Is XPS 13 2-in-1 use active cooling or passive cooling?
Passive cooling
Hello, im a newbie to computer tech and wanted a laptop for my engineering projects (I use programs that have simulations, modelling and coding like cad/aspen/Matlab etc.) and I wanted a laptop that can handle things without crashing or lagging but has decent battery life. I found the xps15 perfect but then I saw how everyone says it needs to be plugged in otherwise it crashes on programs and overheats. What is a laptop that can handle heavy things like xps15 but doesn’t come with these issues? Thx
When it comes to engineering and 3d programs like CAD, you're better off going with a laptop that has a dedicated GPU. It can run simulations and is exactly what you need in engineering. I'm in civil engineering and I use an ROG Zephyrus that has a 3060. It doesn't lag. I use AutoCAD, Revit, even Vegas Pro for video editing. Highly recommend. A productivity laptop like the Surface Pro or XPS 2 in 1 are great for note taking.. but they don't have the graphical power needed for our use case
Andrew, if there was any hope that Microsoft might send you products for review, that probably ended with your title. 😁 However, I agree with your conclusion.
Hi Brent, I actually really don't care if they send me any products. After 6 years of grinding, over 31 million views and just about 134,000 followers, if Microsoft can't see the reach and benefit of my channel, then so be it. At the end of the day I care about my audience and that is who I am an advocate for. Thanks.
@@andrewmarcdavid Agreed. That is why your readership can trust your reviews.
@@brentc.6690 thanks really appreciate it!
So which one would u recommend sp9 or xps 13 2 in 1?
Watch tne video and you would know.
@@andrewmarcdavid i did and really liked it but still unable to make the purchase decision
Soo lucky I got the Lenovo Flex 5, Ryzen 7 5700u 16GB 512GB for 49,999 php(tax included) in my country(from an outlet in a mall, nonetheless). That works out to around a mere $649 before all the taxes in the US. Nevermind the lackluster screen and non metal finish, it's still an absolute steal!
Comparing to my current Dell Latitude 7200 2-in-1, this new stand is much worse and less desirable as for me.
Currently during working hours, I may detach a keyboard, connect to display with wirelessly connected keyboard and mouse via Thunderbolt cable and may stand this small "screen" anywhere around with any angel.
After work, I may bring my Latitude to home desktop, stand it aside without keyboard and share Dell KM7321 Multidevice Wireless keyboard and Mouse across both these devices just switching between them.
Considering all these told, there is not any benefit of having this device. The only option, it is to bring it into bed. Ordinary laptop would be more preferable.
The only thing about this "laptop" it is desperately anticipated passively cooled laptops on Intel CPU. As mine almost never switches its fan on, in how I use it. So, very doubtful fan installing there was.
The problem is that the Surface Pro 9 has the Surface Connect Port and a replaceable SSD. And a 120 hz screen. No way I'd get a Dell.
Fair enough. When you look at the price difference, which is a significant amount, things look a bit different.
@@andrewmarcdavid There's a few problems with that "lower price" argument. First, the Surface products generally are nore reliable than Dell, who has multiple known QC issues over the past 5 years with this XPS line. And second, if the SSD in a recent Surface device fails, you can either replace it yourself (the Surface Pro devices) or get a technican to do just that repair (the Surface Laptops 3 & later), which prevents e-waste, saves you money, and is overall better. Dell is going really too far into that method, so while it may seem you pay less, you kinda get what you pay for.
And the fact that its the most repair friendly surface to date too.
60hz screen. Great device but spoiled with this shortcoming. Back in surface pro...
Thanks a lot
the processor is to weak for me .. i5 max ?
The i7 was available the other day. I have a call into Dell for comment
hmm... Fanless as pro... definitely a difference in criteria. I like your vids, but can't take this seriously. Thermal throttling is a serious issue, even with 12 gen mobile i5. It needs a fan for any serious work.
This has the lower watt CPU where the Surface Pro 9 has the 15w CPUs and still gets better battery.
Overall I think the Latitude version of this might be a better device vs the XPS. Dell just needs to move into the ARM CPUs.
After looking at this lame excuse of a 2-in-1, I ordered a HP Envy x360 13!
Lame? Nah
@@andrewmarcdavid I'm sorry Andrew, but I have to agree with the original commentor. The Surface is much more repair friendly than the recent XPS 13 (9315 & tablet). And that saves money in the long run and prevents e-waste.
@@cameronbosch1213 yes the SP9 has improved repairable parts which is good.
Is the hp better than dell?
bummer headphone jacks are on their way out
I still prefer the surface pro 9
Why
No kick stand? Can't do it! If Dell added a kickstand it would make it true competition!
Please return me Dell XPS Plus 9320 2-in-1 rather than this model :(
SP9 still better
no kickstand...skip
I will never get a dell again.
So ugly
Looks like an unfinished product
I bought a dell inspiron 16 7620 and received a defective piece. I'm still settling scores with dell. Dell is shit
It’s ugly, Surface is beautiful! 🤭
Nah looks good to me
So 5g atm is not available?
I spoke with Dell and 5G model is coming early next year
@@andrewmarcdavid thank you