Why Gen Z Doesn't Care About Music

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  • I discuss my theory as to why the GEN Z generation doesn't care about music.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 16 тис.

  • @patrickryan7199
    @patrickryan7199 Рік тому +3665

    This video explores a fascinating topic, from many perspectives, i.e. cognitive sciences, musicology, and the art form itself. While there are clear differences in generational experiences of music, Rick is asking the important, difficult and ultimately philosophical question, of what these differences mean for the future of music.
    The formative experiences of Rick’s and my generation occurred before the internet, and even before digitization. Our parents’ generation, and their parents’ before them, had rich experiences of music in the culture. Pianos were commonplace, musical education was respected and valued, and music was interwoven in society, from experiences in churches to dances to any formal public gathering. Since then, the changes have not only accelerated but have deepened. Musical experience, perception, and understanding all interlace as a kind of weave of resilience that has been weakened, in much the same way that a sustainable ecological system is weakened as its’ biodiversity is diminished. In both spheres, we careen toward disaster; the landscape is bleak. A gen Z’er who never took a music lesson (whose parents didn’t either), who never danced to a live band, whose only experience of music is through a video game or an auto-tuned formulaically homogenized “product” is less likely to notice that the fabric of complexity of emotionally expressive music is unraveling.
    The minimization of music and the related plague of musical illiteracy in recent generations has given us people whose “sensing abilities” (re: musical perception) have atrophied, like an organ that once served a function, or a muscle that’s no longer used. It’s comparatively like an ecologically ruined landscape, where a rich and varied diversity has unraveled and disappeared to the point where it is all but eclipsed from memory.
    The rapid rate of technological change has most certainly altered how people experience and interact with music, even changing the human organism, developmentally and structurally, over time. The change has been so rapid that even the most dedicated defenders of the art form are reeling, as evidenced in Rick’s post. Music helps develop the empathetic feeling of the human organism, aids in resonating with the expression that comes from the language of melody, rhythm and harmony, in particularly in an improvisational context. As musical experience and literacy decline, attention spans get shorter. Instant gratification and addiction replace knowledge and any discretionary aesthetic. The discipline which leads to understanding and valuing music as contributing to a healthy, vibrant culture, is lost.

    • @Rational_Mind
      @Rational_Mind Рік тому +251

      Brilliant comment! So exquisitely stated. This is exactly what I think but could never have put into words as well as you did. And looking from an even bigger picture perspective, what you stated is applicable to so many other areas of life as well. I fear for mankind.

    • @nathanclark4674
      @nathanclark4674 Рік тому +132

      This could not have been articulated better.

    • @marcosbl100
      @marcosbl100 Рік тому +166

      Your comment is so accurate, it makes me sad that this generation is getting more and more desensitized in regards to human empathy and love. Technology is transforming humans into robots with no soul

    • @tfragia1
      @tfragia1 Рік тому +99

      Bleak but well put. I guess I'm more concerned about future generations just sitting on their ass all day not getting any exercise. They watch sports but don't play sports. 🙄 Here's hoping the trend reverses some day.

    • @samcoffeymusic
      @samcoffeymusic Рік тому +121

      An "organ that once served a function", that's deep, like a musical tailbone? Sad but true. I think keeping the ability to hear and appreciate (and perform) music alive in successive generations will depend on the parents' degree of respect toward it as expressed in the home during kids' formative years. I never gave my kids piano lessons or forced them to play an instrument. I just practiced piano, wrote songs and enjoyed music daily. Now my daughter plays the piano & sings, and my son plays drums, piano and sings. And they gravitated toward music simply because they saw me doing it passionately.

  • @newpianotutorials
    @newpianotutorials Рік тому +2144

    I've been making piano tutorials since 2007 across five channels - but 5 years ago I totally switched from making new music and chart song tutorials to making video game and meme song tutorials.
    It's not that Gen Z don't care about music, it's that the delivery system has changed - and especially pre teens are not listening to the radio at all - the odd global hit gets through but the songs they want to play are mainly from video games or memes (or TV shows).

    • @jpslayermayor9293
      @jpslayermayor9293 Рік тому +113

      But they cant write music with an emotional component to it. Their music is vapid and non memorable. I think this is because their brains have been modified when they were developing with video games in such a way that they cant create art with an emotional component. Listen to what passes for popular music be it hip hop or dance or even rock, its flat and doesnt make anyone feel anything

    • @Rusty_Gold85
      @Rusty_Gold85 Рік тому +107

      If you ever go through classic songs and all those comments saying " I came here from so and so game " ?

    • @spindriftdrinker
      @spindriftdrinker Рік тому +123

      Radio has become unlistenable. There are no more DJs ( too expensive) but plenty of commercials and bad music. Some things are FREE but just not worth your time.

    • @MrMmcdaid9
      @MrMmcdaid9 Рік тому +10

      @@SpaceCattttt - I went to Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club [London] last night to see the Yellow-Jackets, in performance. They've been doing this for a long time, as have the audience, generally.
      We have all progressed although I spoke to a young guy who helped me get there ]as he was going and I was shopping and lost my bearings] he is a young drummer].
      In 'Commercial-Ville' the medium changed long ago in support of other mediums. In this parallel reality, The 'Jkts' still get better and better and they have a much younger member now, on Bass [6-string], a very fine, and compatible musician indeed.
      They set a wonderful example of compelling music making as an art-form through the generations - the video thing might actually burn out like an over exposed 'shooting star' when it passes its peak.
      That doesn't happen in 'Ronnie's'; night after night the stars pace themselves out and shine on like crazy diamonds in a sky of Lucys', over many shades of grey [and other tones]. The young staff there are wonderful as they always have been 😑.

    • @meis18mofo77
      @meis18mofo77 Рік тому +87

      bullshit, have ever listened to a sountrack of anything, modern radio is vapid, pop is, but soundtracks???? the music specifically designed to direct your emotions while engaging with a visual medium????? We cant write properly because noone teaches the stuff we like to hear, or the way we usually write, I use FL-studio, wtf would I need staff notation for? I dont, I'm now learning composition in spite of music theorists and music snobs best effords to keep me from doing so.

  • @aaroncoulter3462
    @aaroncoulter3462 Рік тому +5610

    My oldest was born in 2009. I've tried to get my kids interested in music, but to no avail. I usually play Rock, Blues, or Jazz in the truck when we go places and tell them stories about the musicians. Anyway, my boys wanted to go for ice cream the other day and I wasn't playing any music. My oldest said...Dad, put on some Rock and Roll and tell us a story. I was so happy.

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP Рік тому +288

      I was born in 1990 & I never had much interest in music outside soundtracks to things I liked until my mid teens.
      It isn't a generational thing, just an age thing.

    • @sixbsteve
      @sixbsteve Рік тому +57

      Totally cool man. Would have made my day!

    • @markkartchner5614
      @markkartchner5614 Рік тому +35

      Yes! Mine requests Play Boston!😆

    • @whatdothlife4660
      @whatdothlife4660 Рік тому +3

      I ...

    • @theproceedings4050
      @theproceedings4050 Рік тому +61

      You sound like a great dad dude.

  • @maninatreeproductions9588
    @maninatreeproductions9588 4 місяці тому +61

    Video games got me into music. While playing games like Final Fantasy III I would often stop playing just to enjoy the music. This led me to composers like Nobuo Uematsu, which then led me to his influences like Elton John and various 70’s prog bands.

    • @agrisimfarming
      @agrisimfarming 2 місяці тому +1

      The mega man x games got me into rock and metal.

    • @l30n.marin3r0
      @l30n.marin3r0 Місяць тому +4

      Fellow Final Fantasy VI enjoyer. Same story here, that game alone turned me into computers and music.

    • @rafael7899
      @rafael7899 Місяць тому +3

      FFVI ❤
      Now we're talking about culture!

    • @JosephWalker-ip7pd
      @JosephWalker-ip7pd 14 днів тому +1

      I would love to hear what rick thinks about some video game music tracks.

    • @l30n.marin3r0
      @l30n.marin3r0 14 днів тому

      Ridge Racer Type 4 OST is a killer, that soundtrack is a beast, has to be my favorite album ever
      @@JosephWalker-ip7pd

  • @ThePeach_PieHQ
    @ThePeach_PieHQ 5 місяців тому +509

    Being a gen z kid, hearing that this generation doesn't care about music is a huge shock for me because just about everyone I know loves music, regardless if they're a musician or not.

    • @trevinodude
      @trevinodude 5 місяців тому +116

      As a music major who is also considered part of Gen Z, I can honestly say there is a difference between liking music and caring about it as a medium. Everyone likes music. Everyone has songs they can vibe with and listen to for comfort. But not everyone studies the history of their favorite genres or tries to understand the inner workings of it as an industry or as an art form. Not everyone can talk about how ragtime music would eventually lead into the birth of swing, which would lead into the era of jazz as a whole where the rules of classic music could and would be broken for the sake of musical freedom. Not everyone could talk about how guys like Miles Davis emerged a star after playing with guys like Charlie Parker, or how Michael Jackson became the King of Pop because how much more complex his instrumental rhythms were compared to others in his time. I know this whole comment might sound pretentious, and I apologize for that. But the point I’m trying to make is that while everyone likes music, the amount of people who love it enough to want to live in the world of music and make and produce it is less and less. It will never go extinct, but I feel like the limited amount of music stars people know about in the modern day is a sign that only a small few musicians who love the craft will find themselves pursuing it.

    • @thespeculativemusician
      @thespeculativemusician 5 місяців тому +62

      The point about gaming I think is just VERY WRONG, many musicians (me included) are musicians because of games like Zelda (Ocarina of Time in my case), also talking about Mario Kart, the last one from the Nintendo Switch is a GREAT introduction to jazz music for Gen Z kids, and I’m SURPRISED that Rick Beato PLAYED that game being a jazz musician himself and… didn’t listen to the music? What?

    • @psychedelicyeti6053
      @psychedelicyeti6053 5 місяців тому

      ​@@trevinodudemy nieces and nephews don't seem to care about a lot, nor think about anything analytically. I'm also worried about their compensation skills, as one watched the first Harry Potter movie for an assignment (summarize a movie) and his understanding of what happened was completely off. I'm not saying the problem is with them, but definitely parenting and the education system where most teachers don't care if the student is missing assignments, they just pass the child to not deal with them anymore. This has been a problem since I was a kid, and I saw some of my peers get passed when they should have been prepped more.
      Another thing is my parents encouraged me to read, draw, be creative. Whereas it's very easy nowadays to have the kids be entertained with UA-cam and Fortnite. I've seen many toddlers with tablets, and yes, there are a lot of apps that are helpful with education, but actually having a physical object in person is much more rewarding.
      I don't think it's just in music that people (in general, not just gen z but I can also see it with my millennial peers) have minimal understanding in any topic. There's just so much history in the world that people get overwhelmed and disinterested. I love Bailey Sarian, but she starts off her podcasts with, "I always thought history was boring when I was in school, but now that I'm older, I'm discovering a lot of fascinating things that my teachers didn't care to cover" and it stinks that a lot of people didn't grow up with teachers that actually looked after their students.

    • @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801
      @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@trevinodude Is true that less people appreciate music now? Not so sure.

    • @trevinodude
      @trevinodude 4 місяці тому +4

      @@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 Idk either. I think people might still appreciate it, but perhaps don’t study the history of it anymore. Still, even without knowing all the history of how things became the way they are now, music is still around and people still vibe to it. So maybe it’s less that people don’t appreciate it anymore and more that people don’t appreciate it in the same way. It’s become a more simple love if anything.

  • @Fubbernutt
    @Fubbernutt Рік тому +2852

    I’m a gen z kid. I think it’s interesting to hear your perspective. I think a lot of people my age don’t have as much of a connection to music as other generations did, but it’s still a big part of their lives. The difference is that, on average, listening to music isn’t as active for us. Most people I know listen to music while they’re doing other things or as a background thing. People listen to music while they’re studying or walking home, things like that. I think it’s partially because music is so easily accessible now. It’s not like a ritual to open up a CD or record and listen to the whole thing through like it was for my parents. You just kinda look up what you want to hear and add it to a playlist. That doesn’t mean we aren’t listening to music as much, it just means it isn’t really in the foreground. That’s probably why it seems like we aren’t as passionate about it. I’d argue there’s a lot more passion there than it seems, it’s just manifested in a different way. Cool video though. You made some interesting points.

    • @Mopsie
      @Mopsie Рік тому +151

      Agreed, I’m a millennial and do it both ways. Sometimes I actively listen to music I love. But most of the time it’s a background thing. I’m almost 30 lol

    • @salvatorepitea5862
      @salvatorepitea5862 Рік тому +75

      Good point..
      Im gen X .an i listen to music in the morning during my coffee n cannabis
      "Wake n Bake"

    • @fakeyogurt7998
      @fakeyogurt7998 Рік тому +9

      100% agree

    • @Fubbernutt
      @Fubbernutt Рік тому +15

      @@salvatorepitea5862 lol nice

    • @artursousa2337
      @artursousa2337 Рік тому +133

      Perfectly said. I'm a millenial myself, but grew up to gen x parents who had an special way to listen to music, which truly made myself different on that aspect. On saturdays mornings, sometimes afternoons, we would all sit on a carpet with cushions, in front of our sound system, and stop everything we were doing just to listen to whole albums my mother had just ordered, and talk about it. We discussed the lyrics and instruments for hours, analysed LPs and CD covers, did get real deep in the music and of course, we bonded together. And that's how we deal with music to this day: it's not just soundtrack for doing some other thing, listening to music is a thing in itself, it could be emotional, deep, and could leave beautiful marks on your life experience, if you permit so.

  • @King-Of-The-Demons
    @King-Of-The-Demons 11 місяців тому +349

    I’m gen z and music is one of the most important things in the world to me, I honestly don’t think my life would be the same without it.

    • @jackiep5009
      @jackiep5009 10 місяців тому +17

      Me too.
      Listening to Rick talk about the Global top 10 nearly made me cry. It’s over. He’s an upbeat guy and the nicest thing he could say was “this is song” about Miley Cyrus

    • @Samuelisakson
      @Samuelisakson 10 місяців тому +8

      ​@jackiep5009 music is my everything, and it's so sad to see that such amazing artists aren't appreciated while garbage like mumble rap are being praised

    • @N0p3er5
      @N0p3er5 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Samuelisaksonthank you for this. And that crappy quality triple high hat can also go away. And auto tune (most of the time) , dubstep (killed IDM, I'm so mad), and grunge should have aborted Theory of a Nickel Creed.

    • @atlus6772
      @atlus6772 9 місяців тому +9

      ​@@N0p3er5 I honestly don't mind the use of autotune as long as it's used as a tool in the shed and not a crutch to make the song sound good.

    • @N0p3er5
      @N0p3er5 9 місяців тому

      @@atlus6772 I know you are right. It's just rare that it's used in a non annoying way. I mean, Duck Guy from Don't Hug Me I'm Scared, his voice was autotune!

  • @ZenMonkeyGod
    @ZenMonkeyGod 5 місяців тому +103

    This actually really surprises me. I have four kids, aged 9 - 17, and I'm constantly hearing new music that they or their friends are listening to. Seems to be a pretty huge part of every kids' life, even if it's in the background while they're studying or just vibing in their room. Life would be pretty boring without it, and it makes me very happy anytime I see kids nowadays discovering the classics along with newer stuff. Music has no expiration date.

    • @cmorra
      @cmorra 4 місяці тому +1

      You should credit yourself for your kids love of music.

    • @MrPipol-nm3cd
      @MrPipol-nm3cd 4 місяці тому +4

      rick doesn't care about music that is past the 80s.

    • @l30n.marin3r0
      @l30n.marin3r0 Місяць тому

      When a musician says "Listen to music" to what an average person calls "Listening to music" varies a lot...a LOT.
      Most people won't be able to hum a melody of their "favorite" songs, they might know the words if there is any...at some point is just boring and repetitive to go on about this things, as a musicians you just do your thing and that's it.

    • @cc1k435
      @cc1k435 8 днів тому

      ​@@MrPipol-nm3cdHe's talked about the 90s, too, which is also sort of my last stop with it. 😂

    • @MrPipol-nm3cd
      @MrPipol-nm3cd 4 дні тому +1

      @cc1k435 he recently uploaded a video about lyrics being bad "today" when the 90s and the 80s were inundated awful lyrics filling the charts. From Celine Dion to Paul Anka, no era has been saved of bad lyrics in the top charts. Mötley Crüe has the worst lyrics ever written, but sill makes millions.

  • @seanevans6067
    @seanevans6067 5 місяців тому +19

    I'm gen x. I grew up with games and music, and love both. I think there's simply more competing for peoples time and attention. Digital streaming/delivery has afforded us almost any piece of media whenever you want, and that's overwhelming quite frankly.

  • @TheK391
    @TheK391 Рік тому +119

    interesting point, times are different now. thought I believe good music will blend well with gaming. just combine music with video games ;)

    • @BringingBackRock
      @BringingBackRock Рік тому +32

      It already is. Game soundtracks are some of the most impressive music around today. Look at the song In The Balance from the FFXIV soundtrack, or anything from Nier

    • @TangoWithTheCobra
      @TangoWithTheCobra Рік тому +9

      Gaming music, for the most part, has been amazing since the 8 bit era.

    • @BringingBackRock
      @BringingBackRock Рік тому +2

      @@TangoWithTheCobra Yep. Tons of amazing soundtracks, not to mention games that specifically incorporate music into the gameplay, like with rhythm games

    • @JohnPaulBuce
      @JohnPaulBuce Рік тому +2

      hi Alan Walker

    • @ryankupsh9172
      @ryankupsh9172 Рік тому +1

      Cool to see you around K-391, I grew up really liking your music

  • @demonic7253
    @demonic7253 Рік тому +461

    Games actually broadened my taste. It feels great when game developers put music in the right place. The emotional investment makes the music more memorable.

    • @hunterwaynehiggins
      @hunterwaynehiggins Рік тому +12

      MGSV's use of The Man Who Sold the World was the first time i had heard the original, and i fuckin love that one now.

    • @figloalds
      @figloalds Рік тому +21

      Video game soundtracks became my favorite "music genre"
      Be it relaxing like Minecraft or metal like Doom, synphonic, electronic or whatever mash of genres, I love it.
      I also love when they make music systems that dynamically and seamlessly evolve the same song depending on the current game conditions, like in NieR Automata, where every music has 3 or 4 different dynamic versions, FF7 Remake which has dynamic music for combat areas, Monster Hunter World which has dynamic theme for each monster which changes depending if you're fighting, mounting or chasing it, and even Genshin Impact recently which has some dynamic themes in The Chasm region
      Speaking of Genshin Impact it has one of the best musical work of any game I played recently, it's very extensive and very good, I love it

    • @carstenwurth1677
      @carstenwurth1677 Рік тому +7

      Cuphead

    • @akkidyy
      @akkidyy Рік тому +4

      The final fantasy series got me into listening to music when i was like 13. Ended up playing through all the games just to discover all the great tunes each game had to offer. And i have to say, Nobuo Uematsu is a genius!

    • @iohannesfactotum
      @iohannesfactotum Рік тому +6

      Fallout had the best soundtracks

  • @theianmce
    @theianmce 5 місяців тому +16

    It's weird, in our family it's opposite. Our 70 year old Dad has gone large portions of his life not listening to much music, but me (right on the line between millennial and gen z) and my younger siblings love it and it's a big part of our lives.

  • @CaptainVelveeta
    @CaptainVelveeta 4 місяці тому +9

    Gen X'r here. As someone who decided late in life to pursue a side gig in music production, it's EXTREMELY challenging trying to figure out how to approach the industry as a productive endeavor. The point you make is right on mark and the music "business model" is almost unrecognizable to me. The challenge in creating market viability for a song is overwhelming. I guess the fact that, access to music is basically a free-for-all these days might have an impact but I would love to see you do a video addressing that very subject. "How To Be A Successful Gen X Producer In Todays Business Model"

  • @Neimykanani
    @Neimykanani Рік тому +276

    I’m an older Gen Z but video games actually got me into music and into classical music. It made me interested in learning piano as well

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому +8

      I'd wager this is more common now than it was when I was a kid. Towards my teenaged years we got a sound card and could hear something more sophisticated than the simple speakers that could mostly just beep. Before that it was 8-bit, at best, and it mostly didn't sound so great.
      I remember some of the games though, from the midish '90s could allow you to put a CD into the drive and listen to that as you played.

    • @lubormrazek5545
      @lubormrazek5545 Рік тому +7

      I mean as someone born in 2004 my way into swing/jazz (one of my favorite genres was through a videogame - Mafia II

    • @4zafinc
      @4zafinc Рік тому

      How often would you say it happens among your peers?

    • @lowreslireas
      @lowreslireas Рік тому +2

      Outlast and its ending theme (that back in 2013 I thought was the greatest musical piece ever) got me into classical music as well

    • @jamesmartin7165
      @jamesmartin7165 Рік тому +5

      @@lubormrazek5545 I was born in 2004 and GTA got me hooked into 80s pop and 60s-70s classic rock.

  • @ethan6840
    @ethan6840 Рік тому +232

    There are a lot of people my age who couldn’t care less about music and I could never understand that. Music is my entire life, I couldn’t go a day without it.

    • @hrvatskicetnik
      @hrvatskicetnik 11 місяців тому +2

      for real

    • @danielaravenous
      @danielaravenous 11 місяців тому

      Yes, many of my ex highschool classmates in the 90s never cared about music

    • @Erickhetfield
      @Erickhetfield 11 місяців тому

      I'm 29 and most people my age and even 10 or 20 years older don't care about music either.
      Maybe if it's something nostalgic. But that's it.

    • @stacyrynd7110
      @stacyrynd7110 11 місяців тому +4

      My mother was like that. She never, ever played music in the car or house. Strangely enough, when she was young, she was a good enough violinist to be pretty high up in the ranks of Los Angeles youth symphony.

    • @masteroffear5762
      @masteroffear5762 11 місяців тому +1

      @@stacyrynd7110 Strange, is that because of trauma or what? i don't get it

  • @DrCatterBox
    @DrCatterBox 5 місяців тому +7

    As a clinical psychologist, I completely feel that this is the number one reason (well, maybe after social media), kids and teenagers today feel so isolated; feel so disconnected from their peers; and feel that they have all these emotions that “nobody cares about.” It’s like John Cusack asks in the movie High Fidelity: “Did I listen to pop music bc I was miserable? Or was I miserable bc I listened to pop music?”
    My point being that music is an amazing tool that helps us work out what we’re feeling, how we’re feeling it, and most importantly, how we can express it. Music provides an outlet, a message that you’re not the only person who’s ever felt this way, or been in this situation, or has experienced the highs and the lows. Music is one of the best therapeutic tools there is. Music lets you experience passion, purpose, confidence, exhilaration, and pain. Sometimes all at the same time. Music makes you feel not so alone. Music can give you a voice, even if you’re growing up in a household in which you have none. xoxoxo ♥️

    • @wightclaudia
      @wightclaudia Місяць тому +1

      Which is precisely why the most abstract, abrasive, ugly, cutting edge and violent music out there has kept my PTSD at bay and allows me to be a family man.
      I’m smiles and rainbows all day and then I get in the car and it’s 2 hours of ear pounding, steering wheel slapping, tear jerking baffonery and I’m back to normal

    • @circleinforthecube5170
      @circleinforthecube5170 15 днів тому

      No, i feel like the reason kids and teenagers feel so isolated especially in north america is because of the ugly, isolating, car centric urban planning, most americans do little outside of work, sleep, shop

  • @FlatEarthTruth611
    @FlatEarthTruth611 5 місяців тому +11

    I am generation Z (born 1995) and I love music like Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Dvorak, Smetana and Wagner.
    I went to my local orchestra that was playing the New World Symphony and no one else from my age group was there except for my friends and myself. Aside from us, it was all older generations sadly.
    I ask, younger people today what there favorite music is and many of them tell me that they don't listen/like any music or if they do then it's just whatever it popular or it's anime/video game OST's etc.

    • @kindlestix8079
      @kindlestix8079 4 місяці тому +1

      Listen to the first hunter from bloodborne and duet from omori then you’ll change your mind considering what type of music you enjoy
      Just trust me, do it. Video game music is not what you think and it’s easy to assume what it’s like

  • @theomegamuffin7346
    @theomegamuffin7346 Рік тому +247

    I'm a younger gen z and I've always obsessed over music, but I've noticed almost all my friends or kids I talk to aren't all interested in music and I struggle to connect to them in that way.

    • @loubar2134
      @loubar2134 Рік тому +14

      exactly my experience as well, when i was in school i found out i was the only one in my class and my best friend's class that was so deeply invested in music, safe to say it felt pretty lonely

    • @LoyalOpposition
      @LoyalOpposition Рік тому +4

      You gotta spoonfeed them. Trust me, I know. But if you make it easy for them, giving them a thumb drive to listen to their car, or e-mailing them videos via wetransfer, you can make a difference. Then THEY will do the same, and pretty soon, everyone does because they don't want to be "out of the loop". Good luck!

    • @SeeSawMassacre
      @SeeSawMassacre Рік тому +39

      I find everyone, regardless of age, to be annoyingly disinterested nowadays. Most people just aren't passionate about anything now. They put a lot of importance and energy into politics and social media and money, but try talking to someone about music, art, rock climbing, sewing or whatever and they won't even listen to you.

    • @undrwrldsk8fred
      @undrwrldsk8fred Рік тому

      You mean you struggle to connect *with* them? Or are you actually struggling to connect them like an actual game of connect the dots cuz EVERYTHING IS ABOUT GAMES WITH GEN Z APPARENTLY

    • @richiemyoozik
      @richiemyoozik Рік тому +1

      Same I feel you i get Turn down from it

  • @jonnitti1
    @jonnitti1 10 місяців тому +496

    I think that's really weird because video games definitely helped me get into music. A LOT of video game soundtracks have shaped my music taste

    • @Doodle1678
      @Doodle1678 9 місяців тому +13

      Same

    • @flavoredwallpaper
      @flavoredwallpaper 9 місяців тому +35

      Looking back at my favorite games, they tend to have really great soundtracks. I think it's an important part of gaming. But also television. Movies. Everything really. Music is everywhere. I think our relationship with music may have changed over the years, but it's still there and always will be.

    • @Doodle1678
      @Doodle1678 9 місяців тому +5

      @@flavoredwallpaper I agree!

    • @formulaic78
      @formulaic78 9 місяців тому +5

      I played videogames a lot growing up in the 80s and 90s. But I also listened to music. Maybe the difference is the cellphone and safety culture. When you can literally always play a game or watch a video and there's less meeting up with friends independently to do whatever you wanna do, music gets shoved out. In college we would play videogames on a shared big screen, but also watch MTV on that screen and also go to bars and clubs where we heard new music and then played it in the dorm on stereos.

    • @jonnitti1
      @jonnitti1 9 місяців тому +5

      @@formulaic78 I'd argue that now we have access to so much music and everything is curated specifically to your tastes. I don't think cellphones make things better for music fans. Especially since nowyou don't have to pay per album. Personally I don't know how much truth there is to what Rick is saying because it's all anecdotal.

  • @inafridge8573
    @inafridge8573 5 місяців тому +33

    Gen Z cares a lot about music. I was born in 2002. Most friends I've ever had have been avid music listeners. A lot of indie, a lot of hip hop, a lot of 90s stuff, a lot of modern experimental and electronic stuff. Emo and pop punk were a huge part of the crowd of kids I grew up with. With the internet, finding musical niches and exploring the classics is a big part of growing up for a LOT of kids and teens.

    • @xomox5316
      @xomox5316 4 місяці тому +4

      boomers and early gen x only understand radio so they dont know or every hear new music that gen z listen too, Gen Z music is de-centralized now. The opposite of the hive-mind music of their generation.

    • @jmi5969
      @jmi5969 2 місяці тому

      @@xomox5316 Decentralised, yes, but how many kids actually engage in it? I'm not familiar with the current situation in North America, but in my culture the number is fairly low. I can't say just how low; the few teenagers around me are workaholics on 12-hour work shifts (still under age!) - this leaves no room for pastimes like music.

    • @xomox5316
      @xomox5316 2 місяці тому

      @@jmi5969 my comment was in context of U.S. same with the video, kids/youth having hobbies and free time. If you need to work 12 hour shifts too put food on the table and keep a roof over the families head then music/movies and videos games bottom of the list of important things.

  • @6catalina0
    @6catalina0 5 місяців тому +3

    Growing up in the era of Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon, the love of music is never ending. If you could spread your arms out, I have shelves of vinyl and bins of CDs, the Beatles, folk rock, Frank Sinatra, Billie Holiday, big bands, Glen Miller, sound tracks, West Side Story, and Christmas music. I purchased everything that I wanted once I found discogs.
    It is true that groups that wrote their own songs became more popular with most music fans … but read the lyrics to Carol King’s “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?”. Song writers have made a huge contribution to each type of music.
    In 2019, I was looking up the Stray Cats concerts on UA-cam because they were going to be in concert…. And there in the recommendations were a female Korean inde group, the Barberettes, singing old songs like “Mr Sandman” and Christmas standards like “Santa Baby.” These three women were beautiful, so I clicked their video. In the following recommendations was K-pop … Korean Pop, I watched and fell in love with the Girl Group’s voices, songs, and performances … Relay dances, stage comebacks, variety shows, Meet and Greet, and concerts. I must have over 150 K-pop albums.
    I just purchased ten K-pop albums this past week including latest releases and several out of print albums. So for me, music is alive and well … it’s no longer the music of Western culture … It is Korean Pop. The Beatles have been replaced by the Lovelyz.
    We are now living in the Era of K-pop.
    Even though, I played some video games … it never became a passion for me. I don’t get rave and house music. I also don’t get why people shouting curse words and racial slurs and basically “Hate” over drum machines and pieces of other people’s songs has become more popular than Stevie Wonder and Aretha Franklin, and the Stylistics, and Earth Wind and Fire…. Soul singers, songs like “You’ll Never Get To Heaven if You Break My Heart” by the Stylistics, or “Oh Boy” by Rose Royce, or “More Love” by Smoky Robinson and the Miracles, “It’s a Shame” by the Spinners.

  • @TheAdam159
    @TheAdam159 Рік тому +566

    Gaming actually enhanced my interest in music. Licensed music soundtracks in games like GTA exposed me to a lot of great bands I wouldn't have heard otherwise

    • @megaMagaManX8
      @megaMagaManX8 Рік тому +20

      So true. GTA 5 has an amazing sound track. I got really into steady beat electronic music from games like katana zero and fury. Dark souls also really got me to love orchestral music so much more

    • @latinpercussionlover6598
      @latinpercussionlover6598 Рік тому +16

      Gta, saints row 2 and the cuphead soundtrack

    • @Viepeo22
      @Viepeo22 Рік тому +15

      Yeah, same here. GTA San Andreas was one of my biggest sources for the music I know and love today

    • @Alexandre-dz9ij
      @Alexandre-dz9ij Рік тому +6

      FIFA helped me to love indie rock

    • @aelahn
      @aelahn Рік тому +9

      I've noticed a lot of young, really young teens are getting into music because of highly narrative-based (mostly indie) games like Undertale...so... to add, yes, I'm 27 and I got into a lot of different songs because of games like GTA and Need for Speed series, and you guys gave a lot of other examples from the 2000s but there were the 90s too, where we got into metal from Doom, and in my case even into country because of some western game (Outlaws from LucasArts).
      Then I'd say yes, gaming actually got it.
      Anyway, his point was most young gamers are not going to pay attention because competitive gaming is all about well...competitviness, and not about art. And besides dumbed down shooters like COD, those are all the popular games. To counter it though, we can see League of Legends always collab with musicians and release highly appreciated content based in music... so, the discussion goes on.

  • @Isaac-fc1it
    @Isaac-fc1it 8 місяців тому +373

    Real gamers appreciate the music in their games. From games like bloodborne or Zelda where you get beautiful classical instruments compositions based on styles from all over the world, to Doom’s death metal. It’s one of the major aspects you can get from a game, the music.

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 8 місяців тому +10

      Doom Eternal has some good axe licks in it :)

    • @LeonardoGarcia-qt6lf
      @LeonardoGarcia-qt6lf 6 місяців тому +18

      JRPGs have some of the best tracks ever. Tremendously emotional, intrincate, well-compossed and simply beautiful. Composers such as Nobuo Uematsu, Yasunori Mitsuda and Noriyuki Asakura have always been a great influence for me as a guitar player.

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 6 місяців тому +3

      @@LeonardoGarcia-qt6lf Speaking of GREAT music in video games, did you ever play Silpheed? The game where you flew a little fighter around and blasted the aliens? That game had the best damn soundtrack ever. It even sounded like cheese but the songs were GREAT!

    • @farenvyld
      @farenvyld 6 місяців тому +13

      That's great and all but DOOM is not death metal

    • @simonp9471
      @simonp9471 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@LeonardoGarcia-qt6lf We need Rick to listen to Castlevania - Symphony of the Night Soundtrack! Or maybe Chrono Cross. His musical insights would be so good, and I think he might even like a few songs 😅

  • @drnoahpepper
    @drnoahpepper 4 місяці тому +9

    Being from Gen Z myself I would say that just about everyone my age loves music but I’m thinking of two main differences in the modern era that have made our experience with it totally different. 1. Rock is less popular and Rap is the preeminent genre. If kids today are actually interested in learning “to play” music, most of them would rather do it at home with their computer and make beats/rap than pick up an instrument, which leads to 2. The biggest rock bands have priced out their audiences at live shows; there’s a famous clip of Kurt Cobain gasping at the fact that Madonna charged $50 for some of her tickets in the early 90’s… most kids today have been to literally 0 rock concerts in their entire life, because the biggest festivals and venues have priced out a lot of people. Without that experience of a live show they have no inspiration driving them to be on that stage one day. Funnily enough to your point about video games, I think the video game “Guitar Hero,” especially the 3rd one with Slash on the cover, did a lot to reinvigorate interest in the guitar. Almost everyone my age has played that game and a lot of people I know (including myself) would say it influenced them into learning the guitar and most of all buying into the mythology that is Rock. It would be interesting for you to do a video about that game and its soundtrack in particular because I think its been a massive influence on Genz

    • @donmon5361
      @donmon5361 2 місяці тому

      gen z lol

    • @drnoahpepper
      @drnoahpepper 2 місяці тому

      @@donmon5361 Can’t help the year I was born in. Lol

    • @sethcaine3659
      @sethcaine3659 2 місяці тому

      @@drnoahpepper sure you can

  • @prizmovr8817
    @prizmovr8817 5 місяців тому +10

    Man you are underplaying some absolutely amazing music in video games. We are most definitely listening to the music while playing. Plus Most of my favorite games are very atmospheric, not necessarily competitive at all.
    Also as a millennial, I don't know a single gen Z kid who doesn't listen to suicideboys at this point.

  • @travelchic908
    @travelchic908 5 місяців тому +199

    I'm GenX and I can't imagine my life without music. It got me through so much. However back then you could see your fave bands for $20!

    • @symptomofsouls
      @symptomofsouls 5 місяців тому +21

      Back then you could see your favorite band for $20
      Now to see my favorite band I have to drive 10 hours through 3 states, spend a night in a hotel, and it costs me about $800

    • @bridgestreetdesign
      @bridgestreetdesign 5 місяців тому +3

      I’m genx as well but my favorite bands back in the day were between $5 and $7. If it was more than $8 we thought they were getting too big for their britches. Oh the foolishness of youth…

    • @las8883
      @las8883 5 місяців тому

      I’m millennial and I agree. Music is very important to me.

    • @alfredocanas6802
      @alfredocanas6802 5 місяців тому +8

      I'm Gen-X, I just can't enjoy a video game without a good chiptune or music, a game without good music is a game without a soul.

    • @MarvinHartmann452
      @MarvinHartmann452 5 місяців тому +7

      Yeah, nowaday going to à concert is way too expensive for ordinary teens.

  • @TheEternalElir
    @TheEternalElir Рік тому +130

    Japanese composers go all out when making music for anime, same for games. And the music is an obvious make or break factor for the overall experience. And everyone knows that. The music is usually what stays with us, takes us back when hearing it again at a later stage.

    • @MiketheNerdRanger
      @MiketheNerdRanger Рік тому +11

      Music from Japanese media is what got me into music orchestration; I *HAD* to know how they were doing it

    • @God-yb2cg
      @God-yb2cg Рік тому +3

      Yeah, kinda like how ZUN is one of my favorite composers even though I don't play Touhou.

    • @bcj842
      @bcj842 11 годин тому +1

      Koji Kondo is almost singlehandedly responsible for getting a lot of kids into jazz fusion.

  • @lambers69
    @lambers69 4 місяці тому +7

    I’m a Gen Z(1995). Music has always been one of the biggest parts of my life and video game music also had a massive impact on me and it still does to this day.

    • @daniel-1998
      @daniel-1998 2 місяці тому

      You are a millennial not gen z. They start in 1997.

  • @luna_koly
    @luna_koly 5 місяців тому +4

    I'm Gen Z and I'm, indeed, not really into music, but whenever I told anyone of my age about it, they were always quite surprised and didn't really believe me at first. Also, despite not listening to music (like almost ever) it does form associations with past experiences, so I do have something that gives me chills. And sometimes good music can even save a not-so-good video game for me. I may even sing something to myself from time to time (feels like a funny challenge of trying to replicate the way someone does it), but still, I don't have music playlists and I don't actually listen to anything when I feel happy/sad/... Maybe it's the same thing as how I feel about competitive sports: not a big fan of watching, quite enjoy participating. Video games have always been a huge deal to me, but I'm unsure if they have something to do with it.

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 5 місяців тому +2

      You're the first generation to grow up without prominent radio stations with unique identities that play anything not on the top 40
      Back in the day they had radio shows and stations for everything, and that's how people learned about new music.
      Now, it's all about money, not the craft.

    • @robinford336
      @robinford336 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Vanity0666 sad truth, it's Changed too much as far as I'm concerned, Ai is destroying a beautiful & timeless art form. music was always a human connection and relatable to so much life and living. I have been listening to music for decades and all genres. I can easily hear the difference with Ai. Now, live concerts are becoming, the iconic bands who are still showing up and been doing old school for decades. Many are making concerts now with a simulation of them and just not the same. I believe that the awesome music industry is getting screwed on many levels. Again, our technology has taken over and sadly we have lost something Beautiful. I am well aware of this, still, even the music industry is well aware too. Lastly, old school music will never die. Every genre will remain as it was/ is. The younger amazing artists got in before this happened and I'm beyond amazed how brilliant and talented they are. It was close, yet, they got to express themselves before this ridiculousness happened and those artists too, will too be remembered. 🙂❤️✌️

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 4 місяці тому

      @@robinford336 you're just looking for cop out reasons for why you don't like music that was made after your tastes had already been decided for you.
      You should seek mental healthcare, what you just wrote and the way you wrote it indicates psychosis

  • @d.d.7720
    @d.d.7720 Рік тому +447

    I'm a millennial, and I got into music because of videogames, especially during the PS2 era. And my little sister, she's a Zoomer, 16 years younger than me, she got into music because of anime. Music is everywhere, and people from all times have had different level of interest on it.

    • @ab8817
      @ab8817 Рік тому +24

      the cultural zeitgeist of "pop music" is more of what rick is talking about. that is much different than being into anime and video game OSTs

    • @Metamerist625
      @Metamerist625 Рік тому +12

      Yeah I really loved Tracker Music from games like Unreal Tournament and Command and Conquer back in the day, there were loads of 90s and 00s games with killer soundtracks. I dont understand Ricks argument that younger kids "only" grew up with the internet... really ONLY the vastest and deepest pool of collective knowledge and experience that has ever existed ONLY that thing. As for the whole argument that younger kids "dont go out and do xyz" well the boomers created the world these kids grow up in so.........

    • @DaleKamp
      @DaleKamp Рік тому +20

      1987 millennial, and music didn't really click with me growing up. I did like videogames, and RPG videogames like Final Fantasy really got me into music composition -- then I learned various instruments and got into rock finally as a teenager. I know I'm not the only one.

    • @john005_
      @john005_ Рік тому +10

      I got into music via rap, and metal but Anime music pushed me to love music more. I then started to listen to japanese traditional music which brought me back to western classical/baroque etc. I love new wave a lot these days. I am a millenial. My older cousin used to make VHS tapes of video clips,my cousin is a Generation X. This did help my music education somehow.

    • @minhuang8848
      @minhuang8848 Рік тому +1

      @@ab8817 Much different in that it is infinitely better than it was twenty or so years ago. Pop Music always was and still is listening to three different song on repeat until you get a new set of songs blasted on the radio. Every singular aspect of music reception has improved, literacy has increased across the board. Rick's video is pretty much entirely nonsensical.

  • @MCSpaz
    @MCSpaz Рік тому +270

    As a Gen Zer, music is the only thing in my life that bring me any happiness. My friend and I have already started the planning on creating a band, hell, we almost have an album finished. I thank my parents all the time for listening to the best music in the world that got me so hooked. Video games have always killed time for me but its been wearing off slightly more and more as time passes. Playing guitar and singing are the only things that make me so happy and excited. I dream to be on stage playing for people, whether it will always be a small crowd or a million people, just want to get there.
    Edit: I will be turning 16 this June

    • @volta6525
      @volta6525 Рік тому +4

      Cool what type of music do you guys do?

    • @cjscarff6453
      @cjscarff6453 Рік тому +2

      Yo lmk when your album is ready. I’d love to listen to it

    • @Cinephileofmany
      @Cinephileofmany Рік тому +1

      That’s great. Keep going. Persevere.

    • @MCSpaz
      @MCSpaz Рік тому +5

      @@volta6525 not really sure what genre to describe it. We just make something up and then keeping going with it. A good portion of all of our songs have 12 string either as the main sound or background sound. Lots of either metal or clean sounding electrics. And my friend plays drums anyway he can match the tempo of how im playing.

    • @Shadezman76
      @Shadezman76 Рік тому +2

      I’m curious what music your parents listened to that you consider the best music in the world? If I had to guess I’d say music between the 70’s and the 90’s, not trying to nail it down to one genre as most older adults I know(like you parents) like a wide spectrum of music.

  • @jimiwills6226
    @jimiwills6226 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m so late to this conversation, and I’ll try to keep it short… I hear you Rick!!! So much said is right on point… but… I’m an optimist! As a boomer myself, I can’t predict how music moves forward in the next 20, 50.. 100 years, but as a teacher, nothing works better in my classroom than music. I teach Spanish using my guitar in an elementary school. Over the 14 years that I’ve been teaching in my school, my principal has purchased me a small arsenal of guitars to teach interested students to play… during their recess and lunch breaks!!! Yes.. students give up their recess to come to my classroom and learn guitar!!! It’s beautiful!!!
    I’ll leave it at that. I believe that kids will always love music.. albeit a little differently than each previous generation 😆

  • @Polygonal_Sprite
    @Polygonal_Sprite 4 місяці тому +4

    Rick I’d really like your opinion on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe’s OST considering that’s the game you probably played recently. Nintendo in general especially Koji Kondo is considered to be the GOAT of the industry in terms of music especially his work on the Mario series. The OST of Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda Skyward Sword once they started to use Orchestras are astounding and I think you’d get a kick out of seeing how far they’ve come since the 8 bit era of the original Mario Bros.

  • @noahjames8374
    @noahjames8374 Рік тому +134

    I feel like I have an interesting perspective on this convo… I’m a gen Zer (born in ‘99), but I’m also in my first year of being a music teacher in public schools. I think Rick is right in some ways here, but I think he’s missing out on some insights too.
    In my experience, I’ve been astonished by how many kids get their music tastes from video games and meme culture. I think where Rick is correct is that their engagement with music looks SUPER different compared to folks in his generation, in that music for music’s sake isn’t as explicitly of a cultural force as is was then.
    Where I think he gets it a little wrong is in whether kids are interested in music. In my experience, the difference is that music and individual kids’ taste in music is growing increasingly personal and private. Headphones are WAY more common than they were when Rick was a kids, as are personal devices on which kids can access music. I think the result of that is that kids are a lot slower to share their music with one another or with adults than they used to be, but I don’t think music is becoming less of a part of their lives, I think it just looks that way from the outside because music has been personalized so much that it’s not as openly talked about as it used to be. You have to really earn a kids trust over time these days to get them to share their music with you. But once they really do open up, a truly astonishing percentage of the kids I teach are obsessed with music that they engage with through video games and TikTok, and it’s really awesome to see young people start their musical lives with access to such a broad diversity of musical styles. It looks very very different from how it was when Rick was a kid, or even from when I was a kid as an older gen Zer (my formative memories revolve around saving my allowance to buy songs on iTunes and sifting through stacks of CDs at second hand stores). Music is still going strong in us youngins, I promise!

    • @rsbreth
      @rsbreth Рік тому +12

      Well - there's hope there, thank you. Being a music teacher is awesome - I work for a public school system and I have the utmost respect for our teachers!

    • @joshoakley4856
      @joshoakley4856 Рік тому +14

      This echoes what I've observed - the focus on "cringe" and "not being cringe" probably has a lot to do with it. It seems very likely that the emo subculture was the very end of teenagers having a tribal identity based around the kind of music they liked, the the final chapter after a few decades in the 20th century where what sort of music you liked was paramount. I've suspected part of it is ease of discovery: I spent so much time in my teenage years of the late 90s discovering music, then Napster came out and it was suddenly absurdly easy. I still spent that last couple years of teenage life downloading as much as I could, but I felt the value decline from where it had been in 1999. Now you could just listen to a "This is …" playlist, something that I would have spent 3 years compiling for 1 or 2 tracks off of 40 CDs in the late 90s.

    • @jamesparson
      @jamesparson Рік тому +3

      That is interesting. I recently got myself a Leak 130 amplifier and it can just fill up a whole house with music. It can be a shared experience. Still I find myself listening to music on headphone more often.

    • @popoff7808
      @popoff7808 Рік тому +10

      This sounds like to me that it ties into a lot of the current axienty and fear mentality. They don't share as openly because they afraiod of being mocked or derided for likeling what they like. Look at Reddit comment of any music board somebody will chime off about how bad something is easy and how bad people are for liking it. As a 90s teen I never really worried about sharing music so much as it was my escape from the crazy family life so I played it often and loud. But also we had MTV and a few other places to come to together on music (your local radio station). So there were these places and points t hat connected people more than today.
      We couldn't really go off on our adventures like kids today and discover sub-genres of sub-genres and live in the tiny bubbles. Everyone new Madonna or Alanis or Aaliyah etc. because they all went on the same shows and people had a handful of shows they watched as a culture. Now you got millions of options so the tribes are smaller, more protective, I find less open (trusting) to outsiders (i.e. you're not one of us).
      On the flip side however, I have run into teenagers who love music so much and love the older stuff pre 90s because they discover it on UA-cam or wherever and compare to the new stuff and find it just sounds better to them and more interesting and "less fake". I don't think will have the same zeitgeist music moments we used to have or the same level of pop stardom we once knew because the music listening public is WAY to fractured. But I do think we will see the rise of vibrant and string local scenes across the country/world. So say a new San Francisco sound will develop that is totally different from the Cincinnati sound or Chicago or Albuquerque. Much like it was with blues in the 20s/30s/40s...

    • @jamesparson
      @jamesparson Рік тому +1

      @@popoff7808 Speaking of small genres, I really Scott Bradlee's Post Modern Jukebox. His band does 1980s music in the style of the 1930s. They do a really good job at it. I don't think I would have found them back in the day.

  • @lower7896
    @lower7896 11 місяців тому +120

    The video game that changed my life music wise was Grand Theft Auto Vice City when I was 21. Just driving around and listening to all the 80’s classics just inspired me to search bands and pop artists of that era. It totally expanded my mind and helped me grow an appreciation for music of all eras.

    • @relaxmarco
      @relaxmarco 10 місяців тому +4

      That’s a great soundtrack indeed

    • @dohczeppelin37
      @dohczeppelin37 9 місяців тому +5

      Me too. As a teenager in the early 00's I mostly listened to 80s hair metal because of VROCK.
      Two! Minutes! To miiiiiidnight!

    • @jokester5130
      @jokester5130 9 місяців тому +4

      Nothing like blasting 2 Tickets to Paradise while flying around in the plane

    • @Tocametalheart
      @Tocametalheart 9 місяців тому +2

      Push it to the limiiiiiiiit!

    • @johng5710
      @johng5710 9 місяців тому +2

      YES!!!

  • @Ty-mu7gl
    @Ty-mu7gl 4 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting point and video! Ties in nicely with our growing tendency to listen to music for even the smallest of tasks. I guess as pop music becomes more formulaic and viral we just become oblivious to it because we're not actually listening-we're using it as background noise.
    I was born in 2002 and didn't have access to the internet till 15. Never had an Xbox or a Nintendo, let alone videogames on a phone of my own. That translated into me sucking at every single videogame to ever exist, and into me having more traditional hobbies.
    I got my first guitar at 11 but didn't start playing till around 14, and it was a similar timeline for piano, singing, and songwriting. It all just kind of exploded at that age, which, coincidentally enough, is when I started using the internet at home.
    I made it a point to get some foundation at a music conservatory, and to always try and learn a piece by ear rather than jumping into the tutorial.
    I now use my phone every day like everyone else, but it still fades into the background when I'm playing or practicing.
    So I guess it all depends on what you're fed growing up.
    I have a 6-year-old cousin who can't sit at the table without watching UA-cam. So of course, if you can't even do that, you're not gonna be able to fiddle and mess with any artistic discipline that takes time to pay off

  • @survivish6922
    @survivish6922 5 місяців тому +1

    Born in the early 90's, music has been one of the biggest influences in my life I can still remember listening to imagine and The Winner Takes It All when I was 5 years old and sobbing even though I couldn't even speak English at that time. That is how powerful music is, it can break barriers and move people's souls. My parents were both baby boomers, I grew up listening to The Beatles, Classical and Jazz music. I became obsessed with rock, metal, post punk, since I was 13 never stopped loving music and dreaming about becoming a musician myself. I totally suggest trying out a video game called Rocksmith you can get a lot of dopamine while playing it. It is somewhat similar to guitar hero but you actually use real instruments and actually learn to play songs. It is very useful for people like me with learning disabilities!

  • @jjs333
    @jjs333 Рік тому +463

    As someone who is part of Gen Z I think a big part of is what you mentioned, physical copies. I have tons of albums and songs on Apple Music but no real connection with them other than them being a “moment in time”. It’s hard to make a connection and wanna learn music that you have no obligation to listen to. I think it also is part of why songs and albums are so short nowadays - if you can’t hook someone within 30 seconds, you’re done. Buying an album used to be a commitment.

    • @lpschaf8943
      @lpschaf8943 Рік тому +19

      That's why I buy vinyl.

    • @BeeWhistler
      @BeeWhistler Рік тому +17

      Sort of… back in the 80s I bought the soundtrack to Pretty in Pink, just like most of the other 8th grade girls, and I listened to the whole tape because I paid for it and we didn’t have loads of money. I figured you bought it so you use it, so I listened to all of it. I mentioned the B side to some girls at school and they awkwardly mumbled they’d just listened to side A, where the radio hits were, and then just ran it back again. Shame, they were missing out on some big stuff.

    • @ICoDaI
      @ICoDaI Рік тому +16

      I wonder if it's an attention span thing, the average song used to be about 4 minutes long... that's like 4-8 tik tok videos.

    • @Mtnflying
      @Mtnflying Рік тому +3

      Well thought out and I have to agree.

    • @aperfecttool257
      @aperfecttool257 Рік тому +14

      With all due respect, HARD DISAGREE.
      The reason is exposure. Just plain and simple. The vast majority of the songs millennial grew up with were release by major labels and curated through the radio.
      I was born in 1990, I have quite a bit of cd's that I have almost no connection to.
      It's more just the fact that the barriers to release a song are so easy today that music as a whole purges much faster than ever before.
      I'm sorry, but this reminds me my me and friends in highschool when we had the though at the age of 15-18 that no one in our generalities cats about music and CRUNK was running everything (it wasn't).
      Put it this way, there are articles bitching about switching to cd's for similar reasons.

  • @kennethnick3213
    @kennethnick3213 9 місяців тому +99

    I'm a gen z kid and super into music. Growing up i didn't get to have all the phones and internet until i was in like 11th or 12th grade because we were poor. Not dirt poor, but poor. My dad is a huge music collector so i had access to all his cds growing up and about 4th-5th grade is when i started to dig through his cds and read the little pamphlets in the cd cases. He had literally most of the greats from 50s-90s in multiple genres. 7th grade i did a huge school project where i made an encyclopedia of "music" and every Letter in the alphabet there was a band/musician and a mini biography of the band/musician that i had typed up. That was around the time when i started teaching myself guitar. I had no guitar teacher (never had a teacher, but my dad knew 3 chords and barely knew how to play.) My dad didn't really have any blues or jazz music. I knew about blues but I didn't really hear any cuz my dad didn't have it in his cds, that i knew of at the time, or anyone i was friend's with did. When we got internet that's when i got into blues and my mind was completely blown away by big bill Broonzy, lightning hopkins, rev gary davis, and john lee hooker. Then i found out about robert johnson. I went into my dad's cds and he actually had the robert johnson cd that's brown and a drawing of robert sitting in a chair on the front. And then i found a compilation album with 3 cds of a lot of the blues greats from the 40s- 50s and i played it so much, even when i had youtube. I have the compilation cd still to this day. So shortly after i "discovered" blues i began researching blues and seeking out new blues musicians, and still do.
    Anyway the point of that story is i probably wouldn't hold music so dear to me if i never had that experience of seeking and discovering music; that whole adventure hooked me. No one forced me or told me what music to listen to, no device stuck me to an algorithm where i would get the same genre of music and narrowed my "lens." I just did it myself and really listened to what i was finding and it became a personal relationship. I think if i had access to internet and smart phones and unlimited music through my phone when i was young that i would NOT have this deep of a relationship with music as i do. I do not blame video games for the level of a kid's interest or taste in music, but the way kids discover music.
    And for that i am grateful a small part of my life i got to experience life without all the devices and internet when i was younger because i truly believe that is one of the reasons why i am different than most of my peers.
    Thank you for reading this if you have.
    Edit: thank you people! I Didn't realize this would get this many likes, but since I have people's attention; if any old school blues type people are out there you could check out my stuff I have uploaded and /or subscribe to me if you want to support a huge blues fanatic (I will subscribe back and even talk with anyone about blues/rock if they want to) , it would really make me happy and motivate me to upload more. Keep the blues alive ✌️

    • @BerZeRker_BaSTaRdo
      @BerZeRker_BaSTaRdo 5 місяців тому +3

      You're definitely one of a kind!

    • @davidlamb7524
      @davidlamb7524 5 місяців тому +2

      Brilliant ! And so glad you found the blues 😊

    • @sg84eva
      @sg84eva 5 місяців тому +2

    • @stuart6478
      @stuart6478 5 місяців тому +2

      Rick is reaching

    • @thespeculativemusician
      @thespeculativemusician 5 місяців тому +1

      @@stuart6478 100%, The point about gaming I think is just VERY WRONG, many musicians (me included) are musicians because of games like Zelda (Ocarina of Time in my case), also talking about Mario Kart, the last one from the Nintendo Switch is a GREAT introduction to jazz music for Gen Z kids, and I’m SURPRISED that Rick Beato PLAYED that game being a jazz musician himself and… didn’t listen to the music? What?

  • @maxxhenry
    @maxxhenry 4 місяці тому +12

    Sitting around with your buddies enjoying a full body of work like an album is something I've only heard about. Tragically for me, it is impossible to get this experience as nobody is willing to spend that sort of time anymore. Even if they do, they skip songs in the middle of them, listen a different artist for every song, and talk over the music, even about topics unrelated to the music. As a 20 year old, I promise you that focus does not exist anymore, nor does passion, soul, or sentiment. Rest in peace both artistry and the art of enjoying art.

    • @rodrigofernandes4626
      @rodrigofernandes4626 4 місяці тому +1

      On the other hand, I'd give anything to be 20 again... You have so much time ahead to build meaningful friendships, and have those sorts of experiences you're mentioning. Personally I met one of my best friends just a couple of years ago, he's a dad and I'm a workaholic, but we're both millennials who relate on many things and can spend entire days hanging out together. We could come to each other's places in the morning and just chat about stuff until late at night, grabbing some pizza in between. No albums, no movies, just enjoying conversation. This kind of thing sounds weird nowadays and I also thought it didn't exist anymore, but when you get along with someone you have good chemistry with, I have no doubt they'll happily give you their time. Don't lose hope and stay true to yourself!

    • @BENJAMIN-pc1ir
      @BENJAMIN-pc1ir 3 місяці тому

      You need new friends me and mine do stuff like that

    • @BENJAMIN-pc1ir
      @BENJAMIN-pc1ir 3 місяці тому

      I'm 22

  • @SamIAm-kz4hg
    @SamIAm-kz4hg Рік тому +609

    Here's my take on this. I was a music teacher for 31 years. With the advent of iPods and phones I found that my students were always plugged in. Music became background for OTHER things they were doing. Walking to school, doing homework, or just sitting by themselves. And so they don't really actively listen. Later in my career whenever I put on music for them to listen to, they would zone out or start talking. It became a bit of a nuisance, so I cut down on the things we listened to in class.
    And because music is always available, it becomes disposable as well. Gone are the days of making a trip downtown to a record store to get that one record you really want.
    Always having access to music and using it as background noise cheapens music.

    • @SanguineThor
      @SanguineThor Рік тому +41

      yknow, this is actually the most accurate take I think. I had ipods in highschool, and I sometimes had so much to choose it was hard to even choose. So I would hit shuffle, nowadays I use youtube music mix. But the technology inherent generation might have more trouble finding unique stuff. Mainstream stuff will be the path of least resistance.

    • @prorenzo
      @prorenzo Рік тому +15

      I fully agree!

    • @dooplisskooper
      @dooplisskooper Рік тому +48

      I think this is it. Smartphones and music streaming services created an era where music is almost never listened to for its own sake. It's background noise while gaming, studying, walking, exercising, etc. The idea of sitting down, putting on an album, and giving it your full attention is almost unheard of now

    • @wazzlopiok240
      @wazzlopiok240 Рік тому +48

      I would pair this with the threshold for being “talented” is way too high now. We are only exposed to flawless performances, so when we can’t be flawless ourselves it’s discouraging.

    • @ryan-heath
      @ryan-heath Рік тому +8

      This 👆

  • @andrewdifilippo9164
    @andrewdifilippo9164 Рік тому +394

    I think Gen Z cares about music, but technology has fundamentally changed their relationship to it. Streaming has exploded the amount of music available, and a Spotify subscription costs less than a CD did when I grew up.
    Previous generations had to spend money on an album. And because you couldn't buy every album, the ones you chose to purchase became not only a reflection of your personal taste but part of your identity. The internet has blown that up. In previous generations younger p may have been into punk, or rock, or hip hop, or electronica, or any other number of generes, I think most kids now listen to a wider variety of music than ever before. And the (nearly)endless playlists on streaming services means you can listen to hours and hours of music without necessarly connecting to an artist or album in the way older generations may have (I think in some ways that explains the 'background music' that you talk about).

    • @CatIsBack25
      @CatIsBack25 Рік тому +2

      Spotify pays less than a penny, ggo to hell

    • @hansmahr8627
      @hansmahr8627 Рік тому +58

      Yeah, it's such an odd take. Music is still a big deal for kids and teenagers, they just don't buy albums as much because there are cheaper alternatives. I grew up in the 90s and I spent a lot of money on CDs back then but nowadays I use streaming services. It doesn't have an effect on my appreciation for music, in fact it has broadened my taste.

    • @jimit.4220
      @jimit.4220 Рік тому +7

      ​@@CatIsBack25 That's cuz of the record labels not the service itself

    • @Jaggedknife11
      @Jaggedknife11 Рік тому +11

      i do think its fair to say there was some extra "mystique" around music and musicians for teenagers in the past when there were less things to do overall as a kid and these musicians felt further away.

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar Рік тому +19

      "More choices but less significance." Is how I describe the relationship of Music to Gen Z'ers.

  • @stevejtx01
    @stevejtx01 Місяць тому

    There were two dynamics going on when I graduated high school in 1972: The first was that my heroes were musicians in the exploding rock music world on FM radio, who were only a few years older than I was. The second was that it seemed to be a real possibility me and my friends could jump into that world from a garage band to the local clubs and possibly beyond to a real career. I think todays youth correctly get it that the music business is a corporate factory that is, like any big enterprise, kind of exclusive, and closed to outsiders, mostly. A few who persevere AND are very lucky get in, but that 'gold rush' seems to be over...

  • @huntress1013
    @huntress1013 5 місяців тому

    Gen Y and I am and always have been music obsessed. I listen to a lot of different genres and always love discovering new stuff. It breaks my heart that the next generation couldn't care less for music.

  • @joshwolfsohn3344
    @joshwolfsohn3344 Рік тому +189

    Found this really interesting. I teach kids guitar for a living and have definitely noticed a decline in general passion for music listening (although playing music seems more popular than ever). Being early Gen Z myself, I don't see and difference between my relationship with games as a kid and theirs.The main difference I see is the way that music is consumed now. I caught the tail end of CDs and iTunes, when you still had to know who it was you were listening to and the concept of 'owning' a music collection was still there. Your music collection was a way that you projected identity. I ask every student now who they like to listen to and only around 10% have an answer, having only really listened to playlists on streaming services and never checked the artist names. I think the fact that the concept of 'owning' music is no longer relevant to streaming means that kids don't project identity with music listening anymore.

    • @TinaReggie
      @TinaReggie Рік тому +18

      That’s so sad

    • @mequint2000
      @mequint2000 Рік тому +21

      I don't think this is just a problem with music but with the arts in general. What are some defining book or movies for these generations? And for the long running series, have they not gotten stale?

    • @yuyiya
      @yuyiya Рік тому +3

      You're _right_ !!! And so much of Rick's rant was really about how we form and show off our identity to others. (Or hide it from them, maybe, for some.)
      So how *do* those under 25 now go about creating their identities, and how do they badge them? Sociologists need to tune in to this conversation; perhaps they have some further insights.
      FWIW, I disposed of most of my recorded music collection years ago, since I spend way more time making music than listening to it. But I've kept all the scores I ever had, to create *live* music with.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 Рік тому +18

      @@mequint2000 We're just setting into the age of 'fast food art' - it's simple, heavy handed but bland, with a short shelf life, meant to be consumed immediately, quickly
      It's just Spotify/Twitch/Netflix instead of McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's

    • @tubasaur
      @tubasaur Рік тому +12

      To me it's heartening that the OP thinks playing music is more popular than ever. The idea that kids are identifying themselves by their own work rather than someone else's seems the proper way for things to be moving.

  • @sebisman
    @sebisman Рік тому +127

    So this is what I think. When it comes to music, back in the day everyone wanted to play the guitar, because it looked cool, because the lead guitarrist could steal the atentiton, because you could bring the guitar to the party and jam and be the center. The guitar gave you that status. I noticed that kids now focus on beat making. Urban music now has the place rock music had some years ago. Is now focused on production and sound making, not so much on music theory and scales but rather finding interesting sounds and textures. Neither is better than the other, but the later is novelty, and kids now want to produce beats or rap because it will get them the attention or status, just like the guitar used to back in the day. When it comes to music, I think the motivation is the same, the attitude, the status, but the medium has changed. I think is very interesting.

    • @freakystyley4000
      @freakystyley4000 Рік тому +11

      Um, no, one is demonstrably better than the other.

    • @PM9Video
      @PM9Video Рік тому +11

      I think the rise of urban music is a lot to do with ownership and immediacy. There’s a need to get your identity onto some kind of online cultural marketplace, right now, today. So, musicality, practice, development of understanding and crafted skills are unimportant, you need something right now. Sure, they’d be nice, but, if we own this product, then it is ours and we can rate it against what it means to us alone. We now have a voice, and it is our own in every way. In our group, we are the elite, and everyone else is irrelevant.
      For an outsider looking in performing a comparison between well crafted material created by professionals with years of experience for a market with different needs, you are going to see a discrepancy. But competing in wider markets was never the objective. We accept comparatively lower technical and craft standards with own our work, but infuse it with raw, honest, grounding emotion in its place. It may have a tiny audience in comparison (usually local people who are connected by community to the producers), but it gives everyone a sense of unity, control, and purpose.

    • @argusfleibeit1165
      @argusfleibeit1165 Рік тому +3

      Digitization is the main culprit. I think when records got small, and home recording got big, and everybody had a struggling local alternative band, the music world became glutted. Put out your own CD, nobody cares. Too much mediocre competition and few real geniuses. Rock stars were a dime a dozen, only had one big album, too many names and not enough fame. Fortunes were still being made, but only because the entire world could now download your song even if you were very niche. There is just too much media of all kinds, not subject to "gatekeeping", like getting signed to a major label, or writing for a big magazine or book publisher. We can all be artists, but now the audience cares very little. It was so much more magical and aspirational when fame was reserved for the few who got picked. Much less fair, maybe. Wanting a music career now is a lot of slogging around for years in a van, forget the jet planes and the tour busses. The kids sense it and say, "Why bother?"

    • @johnlee750
      @johnlee750 Рік тому +14

      I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here. And I absolutely agree with you, neither is “better” than the other. They are completely different worlds. I actually would say (as a guitarist myself) that texture is a more complex playing ground than harmony. Harmony has literally thousands of years of exploration and no matter how cool of a combination of notes or chords you come up with, someone has probably already done it. Where as texture, especially with digital manipulation, is rife for exploration and creation.

    • @CT-rv2gn
      @CT-rv2gn Рік тому +3

      @@freakystyley4000 that’s pretty subjective though

  • @bbledsoe
    @bbledsoe 5 місяців тому

    I'm a Gen X professional musician. I live in a jazz city (KCMO), and my son is a 13-year-old bass player, and he's playing out a ton. He has lots of kids his age to play with but they never jam in the garage or listen to music together. There are some great kids coming up every year in this town, and it never seems to end.

  • @Shaft-Industries
    @Shaft-Industries 21 день тому

    Back in the 80's we would hang out at an arcade called Aladdin's Castle that had black walls, purple lights and LOUD rock music playing. The music alone was half the attraction.

  • @bowenflob8036
    @bowenflob8036 Рік тому +101

    Here's an alternative angle: you didn't register the music whilst playing the game because your brain was fully engaged in just trying to play it (basically because you were no good at it), the music is able to be appreciated once the game isn't as challenging. I've always loved the music aspect of video games.

    • @ferox965
      @ferox965 Рік тому +3

      That's basically what he said.

    • @bowenflob8036
      @bowenflob8036 Рік тому +26

      @@ferox965 What I heard from the video is that he thinks people don't listen to the music in games because they're 'too addictive' (gameplay-wise), leaving no space for listening to the soundtrack. My point is that people do listen to the music. In fact in some classic games it's one of the main draws to the games. We have whole concerts now dedicated to the music from games. So I don't agree with his statement. It might be true if you're struggling to play Mario Kart though :P

    • @cloodstroof7786
      @cloodstroof7786 Рік тому +20

      @@bowenflob8036 For people who grew up playing games and still have it as a primary hobby, listening to the music while playing something like Mario Kart is probably far easier than it would be for Rick. Mario Kart is a pretty simple arcade game, and when I play it I usually have just as much if not more attention being given to the music since I can more or less play the game on autopilot. For something like Dark Souls its different (despite it having some great music) since its far more challenging and actually needs my attention.
      I have a feeling that he also doesn't realise theres many, many games out there that are nothing like the multiplayer games which evolved from the arcade games he played in the past. Many of them are artistic pieces just like a movie, book, or song are and intentionally have moments where everything else is dialled back in order for you to pay attention to the music and let it set the mood. Games like Hollow Knight, Death Stranding, the Persona series (and other atlus games like Catherine), Final Fantasy, and so much more is filled with moments that are memorable because they had you just listening to the music and take it all in.

    • @bowenflob8036
      @bowenflob8036 Рік тому +3

      @@cloodstroof7786 agree completely

    • @petersnyder3295
      @petersnyder3295 Рік тому +9

      I have a friend who has written music for several video games. It's not like writing an advertising jingle. A lot of work writing a lot of music. I have no idea what impact it has on the players, though.

  • @dylbanyeah
    @dylbanyeah Рік тому +124

    I am a part of Gen Z, born in late 2003. I, along with all of my friends, love music. Video games are definitely something they enjoy as well but the soundtrack is almost always one of our favorite parts of it. I don't play as many video games as I used too, I tend to watch UA-cam and listen to my favorite bands. But when I do play them, I am almost always listening for the music; it is honestly one of the only reasons I would play a game now. One of my friends and I also have been learning guitar for a while now. I don't know exactly how other people in my generation might feel but for all of the people I know, music is very important.

    • @xxsusmasterxx5491
      @xxsusmasterxx5491 Рік тому +4

      Same aswell! I do the same thing for Zelda games. Because of Zelda, i learnt flamenco on classical acoustic guitar!

    • @cameronleblanc2625
      @cameronleblanc2625 Рік тому +13

      Exactly. I find it insulting that people actually think like this about our generation. It makes us look bad. Almost everyone i know, couldnt go a day without music. I don't know where this idea that gen z does'nt listen to music came from but its dead wrong. Everyone listens to music, old and young. God damn fuckin boomers man.

    • @cakeyseeks124
      @cakeyseeks124 Рік тому +1

      @@xxsusmasterxx5491 Holy heck you too?! Yeah! I learnt piano because of Zelda :D it has such a nice soundtrack

    • @TheReillyDiefenbach
      @TheReillyDiefenbach Рік тому +1

      @@cameronleblanc2625 Your generation has to own your musical illiteracy before it will get any better. Autotune this!

    • @thecrackedsky
      @thecrackedsky Рік тому +4

      That’s a crazy claim to say that music isn’t an integral part of music. Did he listen to the music in Mario kart? Some of it is incredible.

  • @Leonnoelmusic
    @Leonnoelmusic 4 місяці тому +1

    Reading the comments made me want to add, i graduated in 2004, i played trumpet in band for 3 years in middle school, but what really made me want to play and perform and love music as much as i do know was The soundtrack from Gran Turismo and the hidden music videos they had on the PlayStation underground discs.
    I love the songs so much i record over to cassette on my boombox so I did not have to play the game to listen to it. (My first digital to analog transfer lol)
    So even though i can't find time to play video games between being a dad, musician and surveyor engineer.
    Oddly enough the sound tracks from games lit the torch that still burns today

  • @LoadPB
    @LoadPB 4 дні тому

    Hey Rick, I think you've hit the nail on the head with this video. Figuring something out for yourself instead of following a todo list is a major part of growing up. I don't consider myself a real millennial even though I was born in 1984. This is because for the first 12 years of my life, I didn't have any kind of pc or gaming console or internet access at home. So, in my early years, I was making mix tapes, later switched to making cd's then downloading etc. I consider myself lucky to still have that same experience with music that you're talking about. The magic, mystery, adventure, joy of discovery is really missing from music nowadays.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 Рік тому +621

    Mario Kart 8 has some of the classiest music I've ever heard in video games. As a Jazz enthusiast and musician in that style, I absolutely adore its ost. As someone who plays both music and video games, I've developed an ear for how music is composed and used in all kinds of games, and it's certainly a discovery to be had.

    • @RSpracticalshooting
      @RSpracticalshooting Рік тому +33

      It's just wildly hilarious that Mario Kart has such an incredible OST.

    • @lpschaf8943
      @lpschaf8943 Рік тому +5

      Yeah. Because those people actually learned something and are talented.

    • @lpschaf8943
      @lpschaf8943 Рік тому +43

      @@RSpracticalshooting But not rare. Good quality games often have good music.

    • @ICoDaI
      @ICoDaI Рік тому +11

      I'm big on mega man music and some Mario games have really catchy music

    • @JR-io6bi
      @JR-io6bi Рік тому +37

      Nintendo as a whole hires some of the greatest musicians/composers.
      especially during the 90’s

  • @phoenixanton
    @phoenixanton Рік тому +214

    As a (late) gen z kid myself I completely agree with you. Like, I mean I myself am _totally_ obsessed with music. It's like the fabric my whole day is made of. But when I want to share my love for music, none of the others care about it. Like, once I had to play guitar and sing in my music class. And I really wanted to do it because I like it. But once I got out my guitar and plugged it in my classmates just looked awkwardly at me and asked why I'd put so much effort in music. _It's just music_ they told me, _stop caring so much about it._ and i think that's quite frustrating and sad. But still, I've got friends who are as engaged in terms of music as I am (not at school but in the choir). That saved my music centered life, I guess.

    • @crouchjump5787
      @crouchjump5787 Рік тому +9

      Culture changes , there will always be millions of people thinking like you.

    • @steveneardley7541
      @steveneardley7541 11 місяців тому +17

      I am an old guy, and I remember when I was in college, and my friends told me that I was "thinking too much." I was stoned one day, and realized that I just AM an intellectual, and enjoy thinking. So fuck em all. Always pursue your passions. I have taught high school, and am saddened by how unengaged my students were--in anything--sports, music, sex, culture, ideas, other people. They played video games. That seemed to be life for them, and to me it's such a total waste of your time here on earth.

    • @Texas808
      @Texas808 11 місяців тому +11

      Don’t worry about them, at that age people think it’s “lame” to try and care about stuff, when they really have no passion of their own. Actually think about that, you’re considered “not cool” because you have a passion. They’ll grow up though, don’t worry

    • @jackz0_o385
      @jackz0_o385 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I relate to this a ton

    • @dudeabides1532
      @dudeabides1532 11 місяців тому +4

      When you put effort into something and get good at it people will respect that. If your peers don’t get it, that’s their loss.
      I wish you could have been in school in my generation. When I would break out the guitar and play in front of my peers they treated me like some kind of hero. Everyone paid attention because playing guitar was “cool”. I hope you get to experience that someday.

  • @TiagoCostaMusic
    @TiagoCostaMusic 4 місяці тому +1

    In my experience as a music teacher, kids seem to lash onto songs rather than artists. Most often than not, they don't know who plays it, only that they like it. And they don't even care who might be playing it. Which makes this a very different and interesting approach to music. Sometimes an artist we like puts out music that is less than optimal and sometimes, we consume it regardless because it's from an artist we like. Kids don't seem to do that. I might be wrong but this was my experience!

  • @glennbarret-jy5ut
    @glennbarret-jy5ut 4 місяці тому

    My step mother is a piano teacher, and she frequently has her students come in asking to learn sound tracks from video games. Big scores from Japanese studios, who tend to take their sound tracks seriously. Check out the FFVII orchestra for example, it’s very very cool

  • @zacharycastaldi1116
    @zacharycastaldi1116 11 місяців тому +123

    I’m 29, I have memories buying cds, laying on my bed and listening to whole albums front to back with a good stereo system. Unfortunately, the last time I did this I was probably 14-15years old. Once music became more convenient to access via iPhones and streaming services, it became too convenient to appreciate on such a deep level. I think when you purchased a physical recording, it was a much more visceral experience because that item was your possession, you felt a connection to it. On the one hand, I love how music has become so convenient that I can listen to Mozart one second, and Smashing Pumpkins the next, but I do feel like something extra was lost in this modern transition.

    • @yunogasai1338
      @yunogasai1338 11 місяців тому +1

      Thankfully there are still cds and vinyl coming out. There are still so many artists discographies I want in my collection. I'm currently collecting linkin park, the birthday massacre, Britney spears, and Starset. I might get 8 Graves current EP release. Hopefully I can find some of their older stuff too same with mother mother.

    • @scndsky
      @scndsky 10 місяців тому +2

      You really had to save up money to listen to music. You had to get out of your house to the city and go back home. And then you only had the 10 songs of that album.

    • @oo_rahbel_oo
      @oo_rahbel_oo 10 місяців тому

      well said

    • @roderickgful
      @roderickgful 10 місяців тому +4

      Another aspect of convenient streaming is data loss/compression. UA-cam, Spotify’s , etc music is basically an mp3 file so the original mastered version becomes an audiophiles nightmare. Tidal streaming does offer “lossless audio” but requires additional gear to “unfold” the master file. Their library is fairly extensive, not as much as the others yet but closing in. To put headphones on and get lost in a great LP like “Darkside of the Moon”, “Aja” or “Moontan”, etc, requires the Tidal app or an old school setup.

    • @visionop8
      @visionop8 10 місяців тому +1

      Well said

  • @henatatorplays
    @henatatorplays Рік тому +95

    There are kids that are very much into music, going to shows, buying and listening to records, etc. I include myself in that group. There are, equally, so many kids I know who don't really care about the music they listen to, or just listen to their dad's favorite old rock music. A lot of that stuff is good, but it doesn't get kids interested in all the cool music that's happening underground today because there's less of a pipeline from mainstream stuff to more interesting music.

  • @babyyoshi2904
    @babyyoshi2904 4 місяці тому +1

    as a 14-year-old right now yeah, I've been so interested in music, I've been so absorbed by the world of music and it's huge in my life and I care about video games but I literally focus on the music mainly, I listened to a track that I like and I instantly start checking the game out, I'm so absorbed into all the little things that make a track and what doesn't I'm seen as weirder than everyone else

  • @andresivanissevich7285
    @andresivanissevich7285 7 днів тому

    I'm 38, played a lot of video games as a child and then around 16-17 started to grow out of it and since about 23 never touched it again.
    For me its just we are in a very very different era now, there is no going back. We have to embrace it and do the best we can with it. I don't think younger generations are in any way limited because they don't have what older generations have, or that they are in someway permanently damaged because of social media...life hits hard for everybody and sooner or later what is really important starts to become apparent for everyone.

  • @quimquim89
    @quimquim89 Рік тому +145

    In my humble opinion as a music lover who grew up playing video games, music doesn't appeal to kids because mainstream music today lacks melody. It may be fun to dance too, but isn't enough to really spark the love for music. The music industry needs to focus more on the art and less on the industry. Every song sounds the same, nowadays

    • @mitahapsari4960
      @mitahapsari4960 Рік тому +6

      Yea it’s mainly sound designs nowadays rather than melodic themes that functionally illustrate the game scenes. I think anyone can pay attention on 90s Squaresoft’s music, which were iconic for having strong themes and melody since early-mid FFs series ( also Chrono Cross and Trigger) but I can say the music were getting less significant since Crisis Core (2007) and I can’t seem to get any newer games’s song to stick in my ear beyond that. IMO

    • @onthegroundsoundotgs5143
      @onthegroundsoundotgs5143 Рік тому +13

      The problem is not so much that there is no good music being made. There is awesome music out there. It is a discovery issue. Most artists spend a lot of time on creating music, but not on building a relationship with their fans. Gamers are great at this.

    • @rize7577
      @rize7577 Рік тому +9

      I’m my opinion today’s music is similar to candy, it’s designed to be addictive and pumped with sugar but that will never give anyone any interest in being a chef.

    • @aryadaze
      @aryadaze Рік тому +7

      Independent artists are creating magic

    • @brainiac31K
      @brainiac31K Рік тому +2

      Agreed! I hear the equivalent of Top 40 today and can’t find anything “catchy.” Overemphasis on producers has plagued the industry to where the latest thing doesn’t really have anything musical in it.

  • @kierkegaardian
    @kierkegaardian 6 місяців тому +89

    You mentioned needing to save up $15 to buy an album when you were a teenager. The record industry was so afraid of the internet they decided to restructure for streaming which not only hurts artist revenue but made the next generation view the product as valueless. Kids have to put their money elsewhere and their hearts follow.

    • @mikexhotmail
      @mikexhotmail 5 місяців тому +15

      Agree, Music used to come in a full package of memories.
      Ps. Streaming steals all those precious moments

    • @ejenplitobarces
      @ejenplitobarces 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@mikexhotmailI totally agree

    • @mikexhotmail
      @mikexhotmail 5 місяців тому

      1. You heard it from the radio
      2. You wait there with the radio open all day
      3. You go to your friend's home who have a cassette recorder
      4. The DJ piss you off since he randomly talking over the song.
      5. Finally, you buy yourself that lovely album or single from the shop
      6. Having a (silence) conversation with the shop owner (nodding at each other)
      7. In bed reading all those lyrics cover to cover.
      @@ejenplitobarces

    • @sangdrako
      @sangdrako 5 місяців тому +3

      That's an interesting observation. Glob, I'd love to see people looking into this

    • @timorthelame1
      @timorthelame1 5 місяців тому +4

      @@mikexhotmail I can empathize with you and your sense of nostalgia but for the most part the song remains the same regardless of the format being used to access the song, (with the sound of the classics on vinyl being an obvious exception). For the most part, I see the changes as being more for the better, especially in regards to the costs and access to a much wider variety of music. I still cherish my time growing up, hanging out at records stores and building up my record collection in my youth but I wouldn't change what we have today for what we had 40 years ago, except for the quality of the music being produced today.

  • @matthewmorter7803
    @matthewmorter7803 4 місяці тому

    I’m seeing a lot of people saying ‘I know kids that like music, so there isn’t a problem here’ and I have to say that disagree with that and I totally agree with Beato here. I have a 12 year old child and I asked him, do you and your friends ever talk about music? And he said no. Now, he is learning piano and loves music and singing and he is very very musical, but he still doesn’t ‘get into’ music the same way I did at his age, I was born in 92. What I mean by that is that when he hears a new song or band he likes he doesn’t pursue that interest farther. He doesn’t listen to more of their music or delve deeper or listen to a whole album. It generally stays with that one song he liked. I remember when RHCP’s By the Way album came out me and my friends got obsessed with it and talked about it alot, and I still love it to this day, and the radio hits are the least interesting songs on the album, but if kids don’t delve deeper then they will only hear the catchy radio or TikTok hits and never the more interesting stuff. The fact that kids don’t talk about what music they like or music genre interest being a part of their identity is important I think. When I was in middle school music genre was A large part of a kids identity. So yes kids these days like music, but they aren’t ‘getting into’ music like past generations did.
    Lastly, I think Beato hit the nail on the head by bringing up video games. Games have taken over as the ‘cool factor’ from music, and kids are very much addicted to video games and it is a problem when we think about how they are learning the skills to be good at video games and not the skills to be good at life; they are very different.
    I myself love video games though, and I agree with others that said video game music deeply influenced them, Zelda Ocarina of time is my favorite game ever and that ocarina on the controller is technically the first instrument I ever learned to play, and my old band did a Mario Kart Medley tune that was awesome, but again, I think these kids are keeping that music at a surface level, rather than ‘getting into it’.

  • @mateuszpasternak5360
    @mateuszpasternak5360 4 місяці тому

    I'm glad that someone with any millions of viewers asked this question.

  • @jonchappellnow
    @jonchappellnow 10 місяців тому +59

    Great topic. As a middle school teacher and college professor, I think the issue is that appreciating music requires being actively engaged with the material -- aka "listening" (as opposed to simply "hearing"). Music lovers actively pay attention and think about what they are listeing to in order and engage in and appreciate the artist's creative choices. It's the same with reading. For non-readers, reading requires too much effort. But people who love reading and love music are actively engaged with and emotionally invested in the material.

    • @Doodle1678
      @Doodle1678 9 місяців тому +4

      Except video game music
      That’s the one thing we do
      And it’s also where all the good music is now for the most part compared to what newer songs come out that aren’t

    • @D-Fens_1632
      @D-Fens_1632 5 місяців тому +1

      You saying I can't hear Jimi cause I'm white? Gonna say I can't dunk next?

  • @TheDylicious77
    @TheDylicious77 Рік тому +77

    Hi Rick!
    Love the channel - but I did want to say: I’ve been a music teacher for almost 10 years now, and in the recent years, I do find that my students will come in excited to play music they heard in games. Some games have really amazing soundtracks/composers - and it’s nice to see kids come in wanting to play music by Toby Fox or Nobuo Uematsu, which absolutely breaks the monotony of pop music.
    Anyways, just figured I’d chime in as someone whose seen games bring kids to music.
    All the best!

  • @MG-hx3ym
    @MG-hx3ym 3 місяці тому

    My 9 year old son loves piano and synth music. When I try to teach him a concept like triads he says “I know.” But, he loves the Synethesia piano lessons and videos where the note comes down onto the keys and there’s colors and sometimes effects. I ended up downloading and paying for it on my computer and he loves pressing the keys and hearing it, but seeing the colors created by the notes visually on screen. If that could be done with an extra layer that identified modes by color and the colors could mix or something that would be insane. But I do agree. When I was in 5th grade in 2002 me and my buddies were trying to figure everything out by ear or from guitar world magazine and the mystery of that created a sense of curiosity and struggle that fed a detective like chase in us regarding music. Now, my son wants to learn video game music on piano and it’s all just a click away.

  • @PFG666
    @PFG666 2 місяці тому

    I am a middle-aged millennial. My primary form of entertainment growing up was was first watching TV, where I transitioned from cartoons (ages 6-12) to music channels e.g., MTV, VH1 (ages 10 - 16). This was followed by playing video games (ages 12 - 25). Grown up and well into my 30s, I find myself spending much of my free time on social media, primarily youtube. In my early teens I was spending.... 20 hours per week watching music videos (and listening to tapes/CDs on the side). This has left me with a lot of music imprinted into my head, and with ideas for new music.
    If I was growing up in today's age, I would probably only do social media, unless my parents would set boundaries on it (which is hard to do). The problem is that social media content is much more digestible than either listening to music (even simple music), or playing video games. Our minds like the path of least resistance, so unless we actively pursue more demanding and ultimately rewarding activities, it's very easy to over-engage in infinite scrolling and other shallow activities.

  • @pian1sticpeng_in
    @pian1sticpeng_in 5 місяців тому +120

    As a Gen Z-er, I would describe my experience as the exact opposite of the trend that is going on today. I started out 2013-2016 loving video games and youTube streaming my Markipiler, Pewds, Jacksepticeye etc, and then, Spotify became a thing, and put on Beethoven's Appassionata and Moonlight Sonata, and that blew my freaking brains out about what music could do, the expressivity, directness, and profundity. I have quit gaming since, for better or for worse :)

    • @BenderdickCumbersnatch
      @BenderdickCumbersnatch 5 місяців тому +4

      That is so cool! :)

    • @pian1sticpeng_in
      @pian1sticpeng_in 5 місяців тому +4

      @@BenderdickCumbersnatch honestlyits weird that it turned out that way but classical music and just good music in general changed my life more than games ever could, switched from banging a qwerty keyboard to an 88 note keyboard LOL

    • @TommyWashow
      @TommyWashow 5 місяців тому +5

      can tell by your vocabulary that youre cut form different cloth than most zoomers

    • @DreadT1e
      @DreadT1e 5 місяців тому +3

      Even though I never quit gaming, I still agree with you as I love going through the history of music and how it has evolved over the countless years.

    • @thespeculativemusician
      @thespeculativemusician 5 місяців тому +1

      The point about gaming I think is just VERY WRONG, many musicians (me included) are musicians because of games like Zelda (Ocarina of Time in my case), also talking about Mario Kart, the last one from the Nintendo Switch is a GREAT introduction to jazz music for Gen Z kids, and I’m SURPRISED that Rick Beato PLAYED that game being a jazz musician himself and… didn’t listen to the music? What?

  • @thraknik
    @thraknik Рік тому +145

    I think you've made an excellent point about how younger people experience music today, but its also fair to note that many kids don't have as much free time as we did growing up. For us it was "get out and be home by dinner, don't be late and I don't care if you don't have a watch!". Today's kids are shuffled from activity to activity, and when they do get together they're gaming at someone's house. So they've lost their autonomy compared to what previous generations experienced, and that plays into the social elements you bring up. I've taught guitar since 1990 and I've always encouraged my students to bring me their music so I can show them how to play it. There is no dominant trend among them at this point, everyone likes something different. Also, music is cheap now, even free. Three hours work at Culver's pays for your spotify subscription for the month with money left over for lunch, instead of just getting you one album that you're going to agonize over as you choose it. So with limited time, little social reward, and little required commitment music has become more of an accessory, not something they are openly passionate about. They don't really know that the option exists, merely liking it seems enough.

    • @DejanLapanja
      @DejanLapanja Рік тому +4

      That’s spot on!

    • @sbyrstall
      @sbyrstall Рік тому

      I would disagree to a point. The number of overlooked kids are small compared to how you believe.

    • @thraknik
      @thraknik Рік тому +3

      @@sbyrstall so what is the basis of your opinion? Mine comes from teaching teenagers for over 30 years. "overlooked" is not a word I would use, but "overworked" is apt, I think. So waddya got?

    • @mountaindont34ify
      @mountaindont34ify Рік тому +4

      I hate that about the modern age.. how kids are just shuffled from place to place activity to activity. Non stop. Go go go hurry up! What happened to get us here? My wife, kids and I were at the park the other day and saw some 9 year old-ish boys playing without parental supervision and she (31 years old) made a comment "Where are these kids parents at?!" To which I replied.. honey.. I was roaming the streets at 4 years old with a fake plastic toy rifle and a cowboy hat and everyone else was too in the 90s.. Gawd.. i don't want my kids to grow up full blown addicted to video games, sheltered and without autonomy.. I hope they love music as much as I do.

    • @IcidLink
      @IcidLink Рік тому +1

      Yeah I see this also the Interests are vary varied today you find for everything a community and the young people have vastly different interests a lot like things like Vodeogames and some also are into the whole Anime / Manga Community some like Marvel and/or DC, some are interested in technology and Watch MKBHD or Linus Tech Tips, some care more about lifestyle topics such as fashion and make up, some are into bodybuilding or at least sports or exercising and some even are really into music / certain genres of Music like the K-pop or J-pop Fans some folks like Matall or bands like Nirvana or even Queen or The Stones. In the past you had mostly just one dominant Pop / Music Culture at a time today everything is much more varied the downside of this is that there is barely any universal common thing besides maybe Mainstream Hollywood Movies anymore because everyone likes different stuff so people stay in their community’s most of the time or they just have contact to other community’s with simulier interests like the whole “Nerd” community where you have shared interests in between the sub communities like Videogames are liked by the Anime Fans and Western Superhero Fans alike also the cosplay community where you have people where some dress up ad Superheroes some as Anime / Manga Characters and some as Videogame Characters Western and Japanese and at most conventions they all there simultaneously so there is some overlapping between all those sub interests

  • @icedtoast8119
    @icedtoast8119 5 місяців тому

    Gen z here, love playing video games, and that fuels my love for music! Video game music is something that brings me and many people closer to music. Hell, look at how many video game music concerts there are, I’ve been to one near me, and I have a gen z brother who’s performed in one. I play many instruments, and I play video game songs on them! I closely listen to video game music on repeat. Video games mean a lot to me, and music just as much. They both help me get through hard parts that I’ve been going through in my life. Video games and music is something that goes hand in hand for me.

  • @emadarmovzalova1284
    @emadarmovzalova1284 4 місяці тому

    I think it could also depend on the region. Where I live, there are what you could call “primary art schools”. Basically they are educational institutions supported by the state where you can learn practically any instrument or attend drama, dance, vocal or fine arts lessons. They even teach you the theory and a bit of history. The classes are after school and the monetary barrier isn’t that high, so most people from my generation that I know have attended at least one class there. I myself have been playing the piano for the past 13 years and this year I even got to trying out organ. I don’t know if it’s the same in bigger cities, since I live in a smaller town, but I would imagine that these schools are still popular even there. Also, the folklore here is pretty active and heavily intertwined with music, so that helps too.

  • @BenPotts
    @BenPotts 5 місяців тому +26

    I'm 23, born in late 1999, i grew up with my mother (single mum), born in 1969, who really had great taste, i listened to alot of alternative rock, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, nirvana, jamiroquai, the smiths, curiosity killed the cat, some oasis, etc, but on the weekends i'd spend time with my grandparents (both born 1942) and they'd play me buddy holly, clarence ”frogman” henry, elvis, the beatles, the kinks, abba, queen, all the hits from their youth. That combination of the classic roots of rock, together with the then still pretty "modern" 2003-2007 sounding rock, as well as the odd new thing that'd come out, razorlight, kaiser cheifs, really set me up to have a great appreciation and intuitive feel for music. When i was about 9 i really got into hip hop and rap, and in my early teens i REALLY get into house music and electronic dance music, even started producing my own stuff. I am a Gen Zer (i think), and i just couldn't live without music. There's a song for every possible emotion, and no two songs make me feel the same.

  • @floralfire
    @floralfire Рік тому +201

    I was born in 2002, I’m 20 now. Music from videos games is actually what motivated me to seek music and play instruments. Rhythm and music games like Guitar Hero really introduced me to music like nothing else. Can’t forget about the iconic music of Mario Kart, Halo, Zelda, Forza, Doom, Animal Crossing etc. These game soundtracks are part of the reason I kept going back to these games. I believe game OST’s and the game itself go hand and hand.

    • @ajlange9920
      @ajlange9920 Рік тому +2

      me too dude

    • @kleingrrmpf
      @kleingrrmpf Рік тому +3

      Same here. I play a lot of games with very good music! Although I often listen to Metal, Rock or Jazz, when playing Minecraft, I actively listen to the music when playing a Mario game or Mario Kart or some RPG. And I enjoy the music very much. But this is probably not the case for people who don't care about music. I don't think there is anyone who doesn't like ANY music, but some people just don't care... For me it is the opposite. My interest in music goes as far as listening to fantastic covers or OSTs of games I have never played before like the Pokémon games, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy etc.
      To my gaming experience, music has a vital point because without some background music, some games are just not as exciting. But that is not true for all games.
      I think that what adds to that is that today's very popular PvP shooters like CS:GO, Fortnite, Overwatch don't have any good music or no music at all.
      I guess it comes down to how good the music is, as in how well it will stay in your ear and how easy it can be recognized again, and how well you are doing in a game. If you need to focus on the controls to get the bare minimum done, of course you don't really listen to the music.
      But there are a lot of games with incredible music out there and people who cherish that music, even when not playing the game:)

    • @SonOfTamriel
      @SonOfTamriel Рік тому +3

      That's great, but you're kinda missing the point of this video.

    • @everydayfun9531
      @everydayfun9531 Рік тому

      Listen to Genshin impact music so F cool!

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 Рік тому +1

      Same. The first ever song I composed was an Undertale remix xD

  • @MarceloLaraM
    @MarceloLaraM 5 місяців тому

    When kids discover voice harmony , it’s a special moment. When we sing and vibrate together in harmony is magical.

  • @trevorcollins25
    @trevorcollins25 17 днів тому

    I’ve literally been forced to play games and watch TV my whole life, because I’ve battled with epilepsy, lived in the country, & could never drive!! However, (granted I was born in late 93) film & video game music got me addicted to it around 6th grade. I then decided to give Classical a chance even though other kids made fun of it, and no one else in my family listens to it. I then became OBSESSED!! I began picking up patterns in Mozart’s music (alberti bass; sonata form; common chords) and I realized, “I think I can write stuff using these techniques!!” Despite never learning an instrument, I researched hard & composing became my passion/release!! From Piano Sonatas, to Basset Horn trios, to orchestral music, and even fugues (with proper counterpoint rules) I’ve learned so much theory that I’ve even been asked for help from college students online in music courses!! lol I JUST turned 30, and after 3 brain surgeries, I’m finally able to get my drivers license and start living independently!! Doubt I’ll get a job in music, but it’s still a HUGE passion!! (I even did piano arrangements of works FROM my childhood video games!! Crystal Caves from DK 64 taught me SO much on using a borrowed six chord and voice leading for resolution!!)

  • @thatmeanmexican9423
    @thatmeanmexican9423 Рік тому +83

    I’m Gen Z but video games is actually the main reason why I’m into music these days I was 14 playing a game called mafia 2 has a lot of songs from the 40’-50’s and that’s how I really got into rock then started discovering all different kinds of music from different eras and man I haven’t listened to modern day music since

    • @treek10k
      @treek10k Рік тому +1

      Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending!

    • @allantomlinson6961
      @allantomlinson6961 11 місяців тому +4

      This is the same for me but the game of GTA san Andreas it made me fall in love with hard rock and grunge. the songs on the in game radio stations

    • @justathumb
      @justathumb 11 місяців тому

      @@allantomlinson6961 that's so crazy! that's how we got into those songs, but in the literal car on the radio 😂 we were reliant on the radio to discover songs cos we didn't have internet. man i sound 85 but im 38 😂

  • @danduntz9112
    @danduntz9112 Рік тому +128

    As a Gen X parent raised on the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and various other groups and musicians, I’ve been able to pass the love of music on to my Gen Z daughters. It also helps that they’re both musicians as am I, with music constantly played in the house/college apartments, which I think has been the difference for them.

    • @amyhayutin1738
      @amyhayutin1738 Рік тому +1

      Same demographics here and my love of music taught to me by my parents, translated into my gen Z daughter’s love of music. I still take them to live shows and they take me to artists’s shows they find.

  • @user-vj8yh2bl9r
    @user-vj8yh2bl9r 5 місяців тому

    True as a millenial who is a musician that was addicted to both music and video games (The latter eventually killing my band World of Warcraft during it's height got me) had a boomer dad who played bass and exposed me to the best drummers of multiple genre's Buddy Rich/Stewart Copeland/John Bonham/Keith Moon/Neil Peart by age 12 I was playing Tom Sawyer flawlessly but still had the sensibilities to be able to jam and be able to communicate with my band members through chemistry where you would swear we had telepathy. My band I jammed with would jam for hours and within minutes go from a blues to jazz to metal to hardcore punk to bluegrass to R&B/SOUL transitioning into FUNK all in one jam and doing so without seeming like anything is out of place. Because we still learned by ear and if we wanted to learn something technical we sought out teachers or hunted down really hard to find books and treated them like gold. I appreciate your insight atleast to how we as millenials still experienced music. I played 9 hours from 3PM to Midnight on my drumset, I drove my neigbors crazy but thats okay, eventually I got really really good where people would sit outside just to hear me jam by myself, and after that my band. Jamming with my dad was a great experience you could see where our musical "feeling" the way we felt music was different but our love and our application by ear was the same.

  • @Kolaguy7
    @Kolaguy7 9 днів тому +1

    2 things, first i feel like plenty of people that are teenagers still listen to modern music but maybe they don’t aspire as much to be musicians. the second thing is I feel like video games are not really replacing music or something, it’s just another new aspect to society not necessarily making music less popular.
    Another issue is radio stations, especially when it comes to rock music, only play old music, most rock stations that i hear still play bands like linkin park, three days grace and nirvana more than any modern music.

  • @NateOnThe-Radio
    @NateOnThe-Radio 8 днів тому

    Honestly, I think you're not wrong about this. I'm a Gen Zer myself, most people in my generation are either sucked into video games or social media these days and yeah it is addicting. And there's times where I'm exactly on that same boat where it's hard to get off a game. There's times where I scroll through TikTok and stuff to see if there's anything new. But the number one thing I never have given up on is music. Sometimes I'll take a listen to what's new on Top 40 radio (which I don't find myself listening to that often), other times I'll take a listen to see what's playing on Alternative Rock/Indy Pop stations (which some of the songs are pretty good actually), and there's times where I'll just see what Classic Rock Radio has playing. But often times I just have talk radio on. However, I happen to notice that I have a hard time leaving the Folk-Rock Music... I grew up listening to Medieval music my whole life and it's hard to escape that genre of music. I'll admit it, I have an entirely different taste in music compared to the people I graduated with last year... and yeah, most of the time... I couldn't resist to sing along with it, sometimes I even put on my own jam session! And even though it's been a few years since I've played the guitar, I really want to try getting back at learning guitar again

  • @hollywoodartchick
    @hollywoodartchick Рік тому +37

    Rick, I also think that "being a musician" was part of a lifestyle change that gave young people freedom - they would have rehearsals and gigs that got them out of the house without their parents. They would eventually go on the road to support larger acts and maybe get some studio work or become roadies or technicians that set up for shows. Young musicians got more independence, and if they started earning money with their music, even more independence. With the cost of living now, most young people can't achieve independence no matter what they do. Most families don't have a space a kid could practice much less have a band rehearse (you need at least a garage for that). If kids can do it alone in a room with a computer, they do it, but if they need the space and money to connect IRL with others, it just doesn't happen. Also, parents have conditioned the recent generation to be more afraid of meeting people IRL. You can't be like that and be in a band.

    • @popoff7808
      @popoff7808 Рік тому +2

      This is definitely a shift on the whole. Leaving aside music lesson parents used to just send their kid outside to play. "Get out of the house!" We'd go to the park or walk into town or some of my freind tooks the damn subway at 9, 10, 11 into freaking New York when it was dangerous.

    • @skystarless
      @skystarless Рік тому +1

      Underrated comment. Also, a lot of teenagers and young people these days probably have to work in addition to going to school and doing chores and whatever else is demanded of them. Where are they supposed to find the time for music lessons or practice? Instruments are expensive, too, and music education in the US is in shambles.
      ...Nah, must be the video games. 😂

    • @oscarlove4394
      @oscarlove4394 11 місяців тому

      @@popoff7808 that's illegal in most of america now. People have gone to jail for letting their kids play in thier own back yard (not front yard, back yard).

  • @rileyholata7837
    @rileyholata7837 Рік тому +196

    As someone in their mid teens I totally agree with this video. I used to clock in hours of gaming every day but unlike music it doesn't have the same emotional connection. Once I got out of that and picked up the drums, my life changed drastically and I couldn't be more grateful. So many of my musician friends feel the same way and I am praying that more people get adopted into this fascinating culture.

    • @kinkyxkitten666
      @kinkyxkitten666 Рік тому +3

      Bullshit man. As a millenial music (mainly metal & emo) saved my life in the mid 2000s. Yall just don't get it.

    • @spartanchillz7431
      @spartanchillz7431 Рік тому +7

      @@kinkyxkitten666 I can’t tell if this is negative or not but at least me and the other guy aren’t a ton of mindless screen addicts unlike most people in our generation, at least we are aware of how terrifying it is knowing our entire generation is overran by a ton of screens, in fact most of them are so entranced with their device that barely any of them are aware of this issue so please for the love of Christ sake appreciate the fact that there are only a select few of us that can appreciate anything other than a stupid fucking phone 😤

    • @the_panos
      @the_panos Рік тому +5

      @@kinkyxkitten666 isn't your experience the same as theirs pretty much? You're acting like he's not agreeing with you

    • @beelzemobabbity
      @beelzemobabbity Рік тому +1

      Maybe play some games with music.. so many games have such amazing soundtracks. When you listen to them later it brings you back to the stories and emotions you felt.

    • @Dracoriax
      @Dracoriax Рік тому +7

      @@kinkyxkitten666 The OP is literally saying he was wrong and he appreciates music "Once I got out of that and picked up the drums, my life changed drastically and I couldn't be more grateful".

  • @Andernol
    @Andernol 5 місяців тому

    I tried a few times when I was younger, and was never able to get into music the way I wanted to. I got a guitar when i was younger but my parents could never afford lessons and I didnt have the understanding to effectively practice so I would get frustrated. I played trombone in band in middle school and highschool but it was mostly fun bc I would get to fuck around with my friends. I quit after I moved in highschool.
    It was only in college that I started to lose interest in video games and started to become obsessed with music. I had always listened to a ton of music, because I moved a lot as a kid, and it (along with videogames) was a constant in my life and helped me connect with people since i had to make new friends every 2-3 years. But in college, and especially during Covid something changed for me. I burned out and dropped out of school right before Covid started. I was out of school, couldnt find a job and had to move back in with my parents. I ended up picking up my old guitar as a way to burn the boring hours of isolation. It quickly descended into an obsession. For months it felt like the only productive thing I could do, the only thing that wasnt a waste of time. There was one night early on I literally played until my fingers bled, I bandaged them up and played again the next day. I still can't stop playing, it's just part of my life now. I definitely need to work more on ear training and on theory, but so far what I learned in HS has gotten me through.
    I know most people hated Covid, and it wasnt necessarily easy for me either but I'm kinda glad it happened. It reignited my passion and love of music, which probably saved my life. I went back to school for engineering, but thats only to pay the bills and to help me buy better gear to play with.
    IDK why I wrote this all out. Maybe it was just to say that there are some of us who love music. Ive found an amazing diy community of other young/gen z musicians and artists in my local city that make a ton of great music and i love being a part of it.

  • @themarcbon
    @themarcbon 4 місяці тому

    I love every video you make. I learn so much! Its awesome how much you have grown the channel

  • @walkssilently1099
    @walkssilently1099 Рік тому +44

    As a gen z kid that has spent most of their life playing video games I think music still plays a huge role in my life. Gen z may consume music differently from most people in the past but I don’t think it has ever stopped people falling in love with music and creating bonds through it

    • @diegosotomiranda4107
      @diegosotomiranda4107 9 місяців тому

      Agree, this take it's kinda ignorant in The vast variety that videogames soundtracks has as a medium

  • @struntsi
    @struntsi Рік тому +156

    Mario kart 8 actually has amazing music for such a game. Songs are performed live and the musicians had a chance to improvise on the tracks.

    • @bencaldicott9243
      @bencaldicott9243 Рік тому

      😂😂

    • @jacobcrockett9681
      @jacobcrockett9681 Рік тому +11

      I agree the Mario kart band goes so hard I actually am thinking “does anyone else hear how hard the band is playing right now?”

    • @unsanitizedbabywipes6154
      @unsanitizedbabywipes6154 Рік тому

      The song in mk8 is just too good that it fits every aspect of the game.

    • @johncarver9997
      @johncarver9997 Рік тому +1

      but no one who isn't bored with their mariokart addiction/videogame obsession tend to notice until waaaaaay after the time they are exposed to it: no song ever gets to make a first impression that isn't directly tied to some sort of media property/video game.

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 5 місяців тому

      ​@@johncarver9997i don't think even you know what youre trying to say

  • @AmberPatoc
    @AmberPatoc 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm a gen z and I listen to songs that are meaningful and created with creativity by a singer.When no one understands me,music understands me whenever I listen and watch music videos which related to my life story

  • @staceycoates1418
    @staceycoates1418 3 місяці тому

    I think for Gen Z and Gen Alpha as they are aging into choosing their own music is that the delivery system is different for them. I think also another factor is what generation their parents are. I just ran into a teen that likes Depeche Mode, classic Depeche Mode, and then at an overnighter that I was leaving my oldest at some of the kids were talking about Flyleaf, and the album they were referencing was older than they were! I do think that the teens of today are more likely to listen to music without attributing it to a specific genre or even decade. And what I mean about that is with so many streaming services they can get music without necessarily having the context of when it was made. I also think that many young people who are learning how to play music through tutorials and kits and machines are doing that because they want to learn but I think (taking from my oldest) there is apprehension in working with others, and I also think (one again from my oldest) they are scared to not be perfect without realizing they need those beginning steps to get better and to actually learn. I do think kids like music, they just don't always know WHO it is that they like because it is almost always background music. I am trying to teach my children about music and in the car we are always listening to music, and I try to also have it playing at home. So there is a lot about exposure, that maybe younger generations just are not given, especially with streaming services that randomize the mix.

  • @taxevasion7553
    @taxevasion7553 Рік тому +63

    For me it was a videogames that got me into music. I loved a game called little big planet when I was younger, the point of the game was to make your own levels and share them with other players. It allowed you not just to make the level but the music through a simple little built in music sequencer. That videogame was what got me really into making my own music and what really gave me a passion for it. It also gave me a lot more respect for videogame composers who are in my opinion the most underated music makers in the industry. But yeah more kids need to listen to more music, in fact I think everyone should have a bit more music in their lives

  • @rosettastoned425
    @rosettastoned425 9 місяців тому +36

    I'm 18 and I absolutely love music. I gotta say, the biggest genre that got me into music is metal. It has expanded my taste so much and even got me to listen to different genres. I now have a goal to make my playlist as big and diverse as possible, maybe even as big as my dad's playlist, which has over 18k songs. I've got a long way to go as I only have 1.7k so far

    • @BeautyAnarchist
      @BeautyAnarchist 8 місяців тому +4

      I'm 19 years old and music is one of the ways I cope with my mental health, and it's simply a way to express myself. Because music is my voice when I can't speak or stand up for myself, and it's one of the ways I can get others to hear what I have to say without directly saying it. Most of the time, the music I listen to reflects my mood. Music is the way I get through tough stuff, and it helps me connect with dark and deep emotions without any judgment in sight. I hope to create a multilingual, world music with different genres, and an overall diverse playlist because it helps me connect with different cultures around the world.

    • @aniket19931993
      @aniket19931993 5 місяців тому +1

      Im a millenial at 30 now
      I gotta say the genre that you chose..it never lets you down it sticks with you in your thick and thin. Metal is a way of life and so nice to hear that 18 yo are into metal.. I was freaking out about why genz isnt into metal!!

    • @meatgrinder9506
      @meatgrinder9506 5 місяців тому

      @@aniket19931993i see lots of gen z metalheads where i live. Although living in Finland might have something to do with it.

  • @Leonnoelmusic
    @Leonnoelmusic 4 місяці тому

    My 17 year old loves gaming. He started playing guitar a few months ago and he said he's noticed a huge difference in his emotional state and ability to concentrate in just a short amount of time.
    He practices everyday after school when he gets home, I think the bug finally bit him! Better late than never!
    We got to jam for the first time with him on guitar and myself on the drums! Dream came true!
    When he's done figuring out the separate parts I'll show him how to record and organize this idea into Ableton.

  • @Nightmare-iq9tb
    @Nightmare-iq9tb 2 місяці тому

    also on the topic of hearing background music in video games. If you really listen to it they actually put a lot of effort in the music especially indie games . And i think the main problem is that most people like to play fast paced games like battle royale and etc. This makes you really engaged in the game and ignores things that makes you loose pace like music here cuz you need focus for fast paced games. If you like to play adventure or RPG games you would actually listen to the musci because it plays a crucial role in those games which brings emphasis and enhances the scene

  • @mattslater167
    @mattslater167 Рік тому +50

    In the US, music classes have been systematically underfunded for a long time. Maybe it's catching up. Also, physical albums becoming obsolete can't have helped.

    • @mitchweiner
      @mitchweiner Рік тому +2

      Physical albums are having a resurgence the last few years!

    • @realobama1100
      @realobama1100 Рік тому

      Yeah, all of the music classes (in public school) ive had, the music we had to learn was horrible so nobody was motivated to learn it, so nobody practiced.

    • @mattslater167
      @mattslater167 Рік тому

      @@mitchweiner that may be, but the damage has been done.

    • @buzzfretwear2906
      @buzzfretwear2906 Рік тому

      While sad, I think what you describe isn't the root cause of the issue. It's the downstream effect of whatever has caused the disinterest in music. You can't cram music classes down kids' throats if they aren't interested in the class to begin with. Similarly, enrollment in school sports has been on the decline as well.

  • @patricklewis9787
    @patricklewis9787 Рік тому +33

    Being born in 2004 I can tell you that I’m so happy to have such a vast selection of music to explore paired with the fact that it’s been the easiest to access yet

  • @ludite7
    @ludite7 2 місяці тому

    The concept of new musicians becomming virtuosos from watching tutorials while often having little experience playing with other people is a very astute observation. When you talk about music from video games I immediately think of 8-bit music, which is part of a nostalgia trend. There's also a love of retro and analog synth from the 80s, even though Gen Z was probably too young to experience it when it was happening. As a 65 year old, rather than yell at the cloud, I came to embrace new movements like Shoegaze, which cites as influences music from my generation: Jesus & Mary Chain, Cocteau Twins, Smashing Pumpkins, and even older stuff like Brian Eno and Roxy Music. I would argue that Gen Z cares very much about music, but they use it as inspiration and sampling material. What I love about the virtuocity is the way new musicians demonstrate a willingness to mash up material from a great variety of sources and they embrace going from a sweet little melody to a hard seguey into a full on, effects laden noise assault. They are keenly aware of what they're doing and it comes from a unique perspective. They have unlimited exposure to an infinite range of material and they are not afraid to pick and choose whatever they want from that material. I'm suprised to hear myself say, I think we're in good hands.

  • @brentberry8727
    @brentberry8727 Місяць тому

    I have to say that my kid has found a bunch of music in various video games. He's found a bunch in movies too. He's younger than gen Z and he found music before video games. He's ripping on guitar and has played on stage a few times, so there's that, but he asks me who played such and such song from a video game quite often. Most recently, it was Foghat and he's got the slide part of Stone Blue down pretty well now, which is surprising because I've never seen a person make slide guitar sound good in real life. He's 11 years old.

  • @APlagueOfButterflies
    @APlagueOfButterflies Рік тому +80

    Gen X here. I can still remember the moment I got my first distortion pedal, and I figured out power chords. I did it myself. It was magic. Nothing can ever replace that. No UA-cam videos, nothing.

    • @robertdesertrider2694
      @robertdesertrider2694 Рік тому +10

      I have a Theory that if our society comes back from "The Brink" it'll be because Millennials became a "renaissance generation." We're the only Generation raised with a core balance of analogue & digital. We were the first adapters of Social Media but we detached from it before Boomers(Facebook) and Gen-Z(UA-cam/TikTok) took over the space. In my thirties now and I'm learning Classical guitar; homeschooling our children while teaching them History, theology, and metaphysics. We want to teach them music so my wife is learning the flute as I am Guitar. Maybe we can start a generation of Conservative Artist. OR... "We take the First Step into a Thousand Years of Darkness." - Ronald Reagan

    • @ASTROMEGA
      @ASTROMEGA Рік тому

      The same ☝️🤟🖤💪

    • @keithroberts9869
      @keithroberts9869 Рік тому +1

      Since we're from the same Gen, I'm guessing a Boss DS-1?

    • @APlagueOfButterflies
      @APlagueOfButterflies Рік тому +1

      @@keithroberts9869 A DOD American Metal pedal. I wish I still had it. I didn't get a DS1 until about 5 years ago and even that one is a Keeley modded one.

    • @completetotalgoodness4786
      @completetotalgoodness4786 Рік тому +1

      You had to save the money, then decide to buy -and what, and fro where- and then find a way there and back because you weren't old enough to drive, and bring it home, plug it in. ...

  • @GRIMtheCardGame
    @GRIMtheCardGame Рік тому +238

    I don’t know, Rick. I’m sort of on the cuff between millennium and Gen Z, so not an authority, but I detect an increase in taste for music with video games. In fact that moment you described felt like that young one trying to bond with you over music that they enjoy (and that they probably have time to enjoy because the game is less stressful for them). Basically every major game from PC focus like Skyrim to Nintendo like Pokémon are praised for their music composition. People spend hours gushing over and learning the songs from video games (and I’d argue to a greater degree from anime). It’s not my world necessarily, but I do see it. I think there’s a disconnect between the way your generation collected and found music with today’s, but I wouldn’t call that a disinterest-just a difference.

    • @BeeWhistler
      @BeeWhistler Рік тому +19

      I have to agree. I’m solidly in the middle of Gen X and have three Gen Z kids, and we all find music from UA-cam, video games… I’ve looked up songs from a few words heard in a store. I see people online griping about how terrible modern music is and how they wish they’d been around in the 80s and I think… really? But you can get all that music and more with modern technology and never have to wear one stitch of neon! Shoot, there were songs I never got to buy in the 80s that I can buy individually now.
      And some of the video game music is just amazing. I’ve bought songs from Portal I/II, Figment, etc. And I know a small indie band who started out singing Mills Brothers songs because they heard them in Fallout something or other, I think (FPS make me queasy so I don’t keep up). My kids LOVE music. I think Rick is dating himself a bit. He’s more than up to this challenge. Maybe we need to throw him some songs to review, lol.

    • @CatsInHats-S.CrouchingTiger
      @CatsInHats-S.CrouchingTiger Рік тому +6

      Maybe the musical taste has become more sophisticated as a result of the video games’ music. 😊

    • @RudiJG1
      @RudiJG1 Рік тому +12

      I tend to agree. My son, born 1998, had parents who may have been too lax about his screen/gaming time. That said, he discovered music and listened to it repeatedly through video games, like the Fallout series. And some of the music he found predated me, a boomer! Gaming seemed to broaden his music horizon. Today, he’s a USMC officer who loves a wide range of music, from ‘40s big band swing to the Beatles to Rammstein.

    • @fattyjaybird7505
      @fattyjaybird7505 Рік тому +4

      @@CatsInHats-S.CrouchingTiger music is definitely more accessible today ...too much exposure will dampen the demand... they dont even have record stores like Tower, i never see anyone looking at cds in Walmart.... in my day it was my favorite place to go if i had money to spend..... all that is GONE

    • @tomasviane3844
      @tomasviane3844 Рік тому +7

      True! When I watch a gamer and they play music in the background, there's always someone that asks if this is the soundtrack from 'this or that' game and they do rave about it. So they do enjoy music, but a different kind than I am listening to.
      Good point, Michael!

  • @FishingtonBurpPuzzle
    @FishingtonBurpPuzzle 5 місяців тому

    In Korea and China they have addiction rehab units where addicted kids spend weeks offline. At some stage you have to ask what is the value of all that time spent with a screen.