Nice vid, as always. Bought the 23mm 1.4 especially to cover low light situation: parties, indoor shots, family life etc. Super happy with it. It focusses instantly and silently on my XH1; way, way better than most of the other older Fuji lenses. Sharpness is fantastic; it is even a wee bit sharper than my beloved 16-55 f2.8 and also offers slightly better contrast (if you pixel-peep, that is). Sold off the 23mm 2.0; easy decision.
Super useful video, thanks! I owned both lenses and reached similar conclusions after real world use over most of this year. The biggest difference that mattered to me as a photographer was the wider aperture, and particularly the sharpness at the wider apertures, especially close up. So I sold the F2 and kept the F1.4 - probably going to cost me more in the long run given the initial outlay and resale value of the older lens, but it just suits my needs better. Can completely see the F2 is better for the use case you describe. Enjoy your break!
The best way to justify value / spending money on something, is to use it a lot. If you love the lens and use it all the time, who cares about initial outlays. And thanks, Merry Christmas to you
This was a really interesting comparison. I enjoyed watching it. There’s one aspect of the 23 mm F2 that you didn’t touch on, and it’s the one aspect of the lens that keeps me from purchasing it. I’m talking about a noticeable softness you get shooting at close focusing distances. I’ve seen this issue mentioned repeatedly in reviews of this lens and in sample images. I’m wondering if this is something that you didn’t observe or if this is something you didn’t test. Happy holidays!
I actually did some tests on this yesterday after someone mentioned it. And using my sharpness guide from this video I feel the lens is fantastic. E.g. at f/2 it is soft at minimum distance. But at around f4 I think it's fantastic at minimum.
And thats why I sold the the f2 in favor of the f1.4, I like to shoot up close wide open and the f2 just didn't cut it, if thats not an issue then I'd get the f2.
While I have the 18 and 33 1.4s, I prefer the 23 f2 for its low profile on my X-Pro 3 or X-E2s as no one really notices, especially in environments where photography is treated with a great deal of suspicion.
Really good honest and in-depth review. Thanks man. Hoping to add a decent vlogging camera to get more videos for my channel out and about rather than always sat editing at my desk. Think I'll be going for the f2 for better video work.
I always enjoy your videos. Your comprehensive & detailed reviews are top notch. Thank you for the effort & testing that you put into all of your reviews.😊🙏
Man this is absolutely outstanding in terms of thoroughness and helping the user make an informed buying choice. Really good stuff mate. Will be subbing !
There is a clear difference with 23mm f2 at short range and long range. 23mm f2 is dull as a pillow close up and needs to be stopped down to at least F4 when shooting close portraits. I thought I had a bad lens, but I soon saw more had same problems. So I can't put 23mm f2 side by side with 1.4 version. The 1.4 version is never dull at any distances. I didn't notice you mentioned this, but it's 02:11 here now so I could have skipped that :)
Very good comparison. For stills I prefer the F1.4 over the F2. I find it to have a much better contrast and close-focus performance. Anything within 1.5m and wider than F5.6, the F2 lens shows quite soft corners and lack of contrast. As if there’s a veil over it. Beyond that distance it clears up. It’s very similar to the 23mm F2 in the X100, though not as bad. With the X100V Fuji addressed the issue, so hopefully someday they’ll launch a 23/2 MkII to fix this as well. Then it would be an awesome lens for that price.
Thank you, very informative video!! I contemplated getting the 23 f1.4 a few times but the 23 f2 is so incredible I decided not too. I too use it for video 90% of the time! The only thing that would’ve made it perfect for me is the ability to render images sharper up close but no lens is perfect :)
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Sharpness at minimum focus distance! It seems to be slightly soft or rather less contrasty. Not sure if that makes sense but hopefully it explains what I’ve experienced.
Just did some photo test right at minimum focus distance, and using my sharpness guide from this video things seemed good. At f/2 they weren't perfect but from about f4 I would call it outsanding.
You had me scrambling for the calculator to double check the numbers my head when you said the f/1.4 was only 40% heavier than the f/2. I thought wow, surely it’s a lot more than 40% heavier. I checked and yes the f/1.4 is 300g and that extra 120g is 67% heavier than the 180g f/2. And amazingly the current AU$799 discounted price is 67% more than AU$479 for the f/2. That really is dollars per gram pricing!
Love your methods for testing! A lot of it goes a bit over my head your summaries at the end of each section bring me right back. I was wondering if you could comments on the focusing distance between the two. I heard people having issues with the f2 lens being not so good.
Thanks so much for this video it's a great comparison. I wasn't sure if you mentioned it so I checked the minimum focus distance after watching this thinking that would be something the 1.4 would have the edge on, but the f2 is 22cm and the f1.4 is 28cm. What an impressive lens.
I spent a good week deciding if I want to get the 1.4 or the f2 version. I went with the f/2 because well I can use it for video and its rather small/light and has weather sealing. I primarily shoot with the 16-55, not a particularly small or light lens paired with the XT4 so the 23 f2 will be my everyday/walk around kinda lens when I want to be light. Although, the 1.4 would be a better option to have complement the 16-55 bt he 23 f2 is way cheaper than the X100V I was looking at 😂 - Great video man!!!! Hope you have a great holiday.
I personally think that almost the entire F2 lineup is better than their faster counterparts. Most all of them have a special look to them that I love.
I owned both of these lenses and I sold f2. Because pictures from f1.4 have more character, just like the XF56. Secoundly f2 too soft and only from f4 close up photos get sens. It is simmiliar in softness to X100F. Thats true, that f1.4 is slow and unsealed, but if someone takes only pictures, should stay away from the f2 version.
3:04 just highlights the amazingness of the XF 1.4 16mm. It beats the 23m telescope on top of Mt Fuji handsomely. Like you said Tb it is in a league if it's own.
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Agree with you 9n the ergonomics side. I do find the older and fatter lenses fit the body a bit more when it comes to the 23 and 35mms. The 56 just fits it so nicely too 👍
Here in Norway there is a cashback on the 1.4 lenses so I got the 35mm 1.4 for the same price as I gave for the 23mm f2. To me this is the ideal combination.
Had the f1.4 but sold it for the f2. Would love to have the 1.4 but they definitely need to sort that autofocus in mark ii. If they could add closer minimum focus and weather sealing then I'd be keen as!
Thank you! I did 2.7 meters just because I needed to have a distance, and I stated it because distance must have some effect on testing (not sure if you're wondering about for the AF test or the sharpness test) For the sharpness testing this is why I measured the resolution as a percentage so it was more comparable. And for AF testing I also tested from minimum and maximum focus distance to target and averaged it. So at 2.7m the minimum to target times where much faster than the infinity to target times. But it averages out so hopefully I can use these speed test to compare against other lenses unless someone points out a flaw in my testing.
Unless I missed it in your list, I did not see any of the macro lenses tested. One thing I like doing with my Mu-43 gear is taking close up photos of very small frogs in reeds. I have to hold my camera in my right hand and use my left hand part the reeds t get a semi clear shot. After all I don't want to harm their environment. I had a brief hold of an X-S10 in a shop recently and thought it may be light enough to hold with one hand. But they did not have a display macro lens so I could see how the stabilization would work one handed. If you are interested and can borrow both macro lenses it would be good to see a review of them on a light body to how they perform one and two handed with a small flash attached. Although I liked the X-T4 better I think it may be to heavy for one handed use. My only negative for the X-S10 from what I can see is no remote shutter socked. Other than that for the price it is looking good for an entry into the Fuji system to see if I like it.
Long term goal will get all lenses tested and compared but the list is long. I have just been informed of a stabiliser test as well so it will be good to make some videos about that, and macro would be a great subject for it.
I love the little imperfections that gives the video character. 99.7% of the video is excellent, the other 0.3 % is your brand of icing on the cake. ❤️🍰🧁
this video came right when i needed it - comparing this between the 16mm f2, as i need a lens for dj streaming ... i have a 35mm f1.4 and it won't cut it
Nice video. Really covers the difference with quantitative numbers. I love that. But weight difference is 67% heavier, not 40%. 300/180 = 1.67 -> 67% heavier. Minor quibble, though.
Great review. I noticed that many old Fuji X lenses are very popular, but are too loud for video. Looks like Fuji just recently started making more video-centric lenses as to the AF and focusing noise. It'd be interesting to watch a review and separation of lenses that are 1) new and good for video as to AF and noise and 2) too old and not good for video even having very good specs. I recently started thinking about buying Fuji for vlogging and reviews seldom test lenses for a particular purpose of the video shooting. Reviewers are mostly photographers focusing more on photographic results. I thought to invest in one all-around good lense for vlogging and it's really a problem to figure out what lenses I should just not consider due to their poor performance as to vlogging. Usually, I first like a lense, and watch many reviews. Then almost after making a decision to buy it some review just demonstrates how loud it is when AF is engaged. Bummer. Then everything starts from scratch and again many reviews, another lens, and again some just mention that it's actually has a terrible AF breathing for video. Now I'm split between 15-45 cheap one and the new 10-24 WR. Vastly different budgets, but maybe the latter won't be that loud.
I've been thinking about that review but I would need all the lenses at once to record accurate audio levels and just to all around do the video as well as I'd like. Next time Fuji fly me to head office I might ask to go a day early so I can create that video. As for vlogging lenses I've used the 10-24mm a lot and all my older vlogs about rwanda are filmed using that lens. But my preference is now the 23mm f/2 as it also lets me get soft backgrounds when needed and is just wide enough for me to still be in frame and be picked up by a on camera microphone when out at about. I've stopped doing handheld filming though which the 10-24 was great for but was never steady enough for my tastes even with Ibis.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Thanks. I also thought about Fuji 23/2. Did you compare it to Viltrox 23/1.4? Could the latter be even better for a softer background?... And even cheaper. Though w/out WR. BTW, what lens do you use for these videos with reviews that you film in the room?
I don't currently have a way to get hold of the viltrox lenses but I'd love to. Most videos are filmed with the 23mm f2. But this particular one was filmed with the 18-55 at 23mm as it still has great video AF performance
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography I have a question as to filming a talking video like this one of yours. I have X-S10 with kit lens 16-80 F4 and bought 2 popular square led light panels. How important is it to have a smaller aperture for such a video? I'm thinking about buying Viltrox 23 F1.4 and wonder whether I would need F1.4 for such a video at all. Maybe having F1.4 could result in a too narrow depth of field and would result in a worse watching experience since focus would be changing with a person moving a little in front of a camera. What do you think is an optimal aperture with 23mm lens for a talking-head video considering access to led lights for a face etc.?
I shoot all my studio stuff between f/2 and f/4 BUT that is also because my lenses that I use only go that bright. A lot depends on back ground, distances, amount of movement etc, but I think f/2.8 would look very pleasing to the viewers eye in most situations. Hope this helps
again, greedy part of me want to see how these fare against Viltrox 23mm f1.4. Viltrox, if you are seeing this, its about time to send copies to TB right away
Viltrox need to be tested, especially being fuji ambassador, because his feedback will directly go to fuji and the chances of improvements in fuji glass in better
Excellent comparison review. Many thanks. One question: I’ve decided on the 23 f2. Would it, do you think, focus quietly on my X-Pro1 and X-E1 bodies as it does on the more recent models?
First, thank you for all your videos ! I wonder if you did not switch by mistake the corner/center sharpness charts. How is it possible both lenses are sharper in the corner than in the center?
Wow, this is such a well done comparison. I'm also torn between these two options at the moment myself...Also, would you ever consider doing a 35 f2 vs f1.4?
Also, I shoot street. Borrowed the 23 f1.4 a few times and from my small sample experience with the lens, the slower AF speed did cause me to lose some fast moving subjects sometimes, as opposed to my 35 f2 and 16-80 f4, which I don't usually miss shots with. Kind of made me lose interest in getting the lens, even though the quality of the images are superb. But this maybe due to my lack of experience with the lens and focal length. The aperture ring on that particular 23 1.4 is also kinda loose, which was annoying...
Thanks for sharing! I don’t do much video, but Having both these lenses I found the f1.4 much sharper for subjects up close. But To be honest i am not a fan of both. The f1.4 doesn’t always nail the AF perfectly and thats with using the XT4, I wish Fuji would redesign a high end 23mm with F1.1 or F1.2 that has the latest AF Speed motors, Weather resistance and all, This is the only reason I am still shooting full frame for my pro work, I cant seem to get close to what my full frame 35mm f1.4 lens gives me! I get better Sharpness, subject separation, bokeh and more accurate af with the canon full frame equivalent. Fuji knocked it out of the park with the 16mmF1.4, 56mm f1.2 & 90mm f2 i just love those lenses and use them constantly for my weddings. But unfortunately i cant say the same about there 23mm options.
The x100 series biggest strength is that lens is made and aligned perfectly for that sensor, I’m not sure changeable lens formulas could ever get as good as fixed, but yes I’d love some x100 series magic in the XF series.
Hello, like the video. I have a question, I am really confused to which one I have to buy. I own already the 35 f2 and I like it, but sometime in a lowlight situation I feel it not the right lens. So my question is, as I like take pictures in low light and if rain is better I should chose the f2 or because the low light the 1.4? is very very hard for me choose between these two lenses, so which is your advice? thank you very much, and have a good day.
If you're not in a rush I'd wait for a mark II or consider the 16mm f/.14 as that is the best of both worlds. BUT if it has to be 23mm and soon I would pick the f/2 considering everything you just said, hope this helps.
Thanks for the vid. I'm thinking about getting a used xt2 to start experimenting with video, vlogging , filming surfing, landscapes, interviews etc. I love primes and was thinking about getting the 35mm f2 and the 18-55. Would that be a better combo than the 35 and the 23? Thanks
@@murphyandmurphybrand I picked up a used xt2 last year with the grip and 18-55 and later aquired the 35f2. You won't be disappointed, unless you "need" 10 bit video or Ibis.
Thank you for the informative review. Nice work. I have a question: I started night photography and find focusing challenging. Especially when the subject is close, e.g. like an old rusty car. I am using the depth of field scale on the LCD to select the focus. Have you done any studies how accurate the depth of field scale on the LCD actually is?
It's very inconsistent depending on the lens. I would suggest using a touch or a cell phone light when focusing, and turn the light off when you're ready to shoot. Keep it in manual focus etc as well.
have the F1.4 version and never have an issue with auto focus, maybe because I got it after the firmware update in the XT3 which improved auto focus to like the XT4, I'm unsure. That said I got this lens to cover indoor shooting at this focal range
Totally agree 23 f2 is a favourit! Astrophoto? Personally knows to many peoples that can do it much better than me😆! Thanks and be with your familly now.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography thx for the reply, I've watched your videos, they help a lot when it comes to choosing lenses. Especially when you charted lenses clarity throughout the aperatures. Thank you for your hard work. I subscribed, I wish you luck on your endeavors and I'm sure you'll make it big with the production you've been putting out.
Great video but have to disagree, the f1.4 is just so much sharper and producers better colours, sure the af is tad slow but who shots sports on a 23mm ?
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Yes I know. But for the two XF 23 the charts are in % . Do you have a version of the charts of the 2 XF 23 based on 0 to 14? Thank you and sorry for the poor quality of my English ...
Oh no sorry this test is more accurate and comparable for between the two lenses. And unfortunately I didn't know of these test when I did the other lenses
I have the 35mm f2 and find that it hunts quite badly when using autofocus for video. I've been considering getting the 23mm f2 for video instead- is it better than the 35mm for video autofocus?
The 23mm f/2 is my favorite lens for video, I can't recommend it enough. I use it in the xt4 with face detection plus have the focus point set to where my face would be encase I turn my head etc, I think it's flawless
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography thanks for the info! Been really enjoying your content. Looks like I'll be buying the 23mm f2 now- hope fuji give you commission! 👍🏻
Thanks for the video but I should ask you please to speak slower so that foreigners (as I am) can understand eveything you say! You'd win many more viewers, for sure! Thanks!!!
This really feels a bit biased, 1.4 was SHARPER on both test, do a lay iver graph, MUCH MUCH better on abberations, on par with a fr*king 16mm 2nd spot, real world EQUAL focus speeds on F2, locking manual focus ring with markings and still only 300grams, really don't get your conclusion. Even the noisy motor I hardly heard and is a mute point with a decent mic, and let's not forget 2 whole stops faster and tack sharp at 1.4. Really sounds like a home run......
Hahaha it's changing weekly, I really dislike the wooden background so everytime I add more light it pulls away from the skin tones, but I promise you I'm aware of the creepyness and working on it hahaha
The new 23mm WR 1.4 is double the price, which isn’t mentioned in this video. The older 23mm 1.4 (the lens shown in this video) still appears to be pretty close to 40-50% more than it’s f2 sibling.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Old 23 f1.4 is around 825-865 euro ,23 f2 is around 420-440 euro and new 23 f1.4 wr is 950 euro in Europe.I do not see where did you get 40-50%.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Older f1.4 version dropped 200 euro last december due to cash back but now seems to be around 790.Second hand is going between 450 and 550 at the moment.
I have both, ANSWER is simple! Video f2, photos f1.4 (mainly quality). Travel photos well just get 18-55...
Best Fuji lens reviews on the internet! Thanks for all the work testing these and sharing your results.
Thank you!
Nice vid, as always. Bought the 23mm 1.4 especially to cover low light situation: parties, indoor shots, family life etc. Super happy with it. It focusses instantly and silently on my XH1; way, way better than most of the other older Fuji lenses. Sharpness is fantastic; it is even a wee bit sharper than my beloved 16-55 f2.8 and also offers slightly better contrast (if you pixel-peep, that is). Sold off the 23mm 2.0; easy decision.
Super useful video, thanks! I owned both lenses and reached similar conclusions after real world use over most of this year. The biggest difference that mattered to me as a photographer was the wider aperture, and particularly the sharpness at the wider apertures, especially close up. So I sold the F2 and kept the F1.4 - probably going to cost me more in the long run given the initial outlay and resale value of the older lens, but it just suits my needs better. Can completely see the F2 is better for the use case you describe. Enjoy your break!
The best way to justify value / spending money on something, is to use it a lot.
If you love the lens and use it all the time, who cares about initial outlays.
And thanks, Merry Christmas to you
This was a really interesting comparison. I enjoyed watching it. There’s one aspect of the 23 mm F2 that you didn’t touch on, and it’s the one aspect of the lens that keeps me from purchasing it. I’m talking about a noticeable softness you get shooting at close focusing distances. I’ve seen this issue mentioned repeatedly in reviews of this lens and in sample images. I’m wondering if this is something that you didn’t observe or if this is something you didn’t test. Happy holidays!
I actually did some tests on this yesterday after someone mentioned it.
And using my sharpness guide from this video I feel the lens is fantastic.
E.g. at f/2 it is soft at minimum distance.
But at around f4 I think it's fantastic at minimum.
And thats why I sold the the f2 in favor of the f1.4, I like to shoot up close wide open and the f2 just didn't cut it, if thats not an issue then I'd get the f2.
While I have the 18 and 33 1.4s, I prefer the 23 f2 for its low profile on my X-Pro 3 or X-E2s as no one really notices, especially in environments where photography is treated with a great deal of suspicion.
Really good honest and in-depth review. Thanks man. Hoping to add a decent vlogging camera to get more videos for my channel out and about rather than always sat editing at my desk. Think I'll be going for the f2 for better video work.
Very good choice man, and very happy to have helped
F2 lens: What you see is what you get. F1.4 lens: Some magic, artistic elements are added to pictures.
Hahaha I like this
I always enjoy your videos. Your comprehensive & detailed reviews are top notch. Thank you for the effort & testing that you put into all of your reviews.😊🙏
Thank you for taking the time to let me know that.
I was going to sell my 1.4 recently, then I put it on my new X-S10 - it's going nowhere now. Ibis makes this lens shine even brighter.
Ibis is stunning for those older primes
How is the video AF performance ?
@@animaxxx4429 That'll depend upon your own needs. I take time to stop and compose a shot mostly, so everything's fine for me.
Man this is absolutely outstanding in terms of thoroughness and helping the user make an informed buying choice. Really good stuff mate. Will be subbing !
Cheers mate, I appreciate it
1000th like, gotcha, thanks for the rare statistics and graphs in a lens video on YT
Awesome vid bro, always makes my wednesday evenings seeing these!
You sir are a bloody champion.
There is a clear difference with 23mm f2 at short range and long range. 23mm f2 is dull as a pillow close up and needs to be stopped down to at least F4 when shooting close portraits. I thought I had a bad lens, but I soon saw more had same problems. So I can't put 23mm f2 side by side with 1.4 version. The 1.4 version is never dull at any distances. I didn't notice you mentioned this, but it's 02:11 here now so I could have skipped that :)
Very good comparison. For stills I prefer the F1.4 over the F2. I find it to have a much better contrast and close-focus performance. Anything within 1.5m and wider than F5.6, the F2 lens shows quite soft corners and lack of contrast. As if there’s a veil over it. Beyond that distance it clears up. It’s very similar to the 23mm F2 in the X100, though not as bad. With the X100V Fuji addressed the issue, so hopefully someday they’ll launch a 23/2 MkII to fix this as well. Then it would be an awesome lens for that price.
Thank you, very informative video!! I contemplated getting the 23 f1.4 a few times but the 23 f2 is so incredible I decided not too. I too use it for video 90% of the time! The only thing that would’ve made it perfect for me is the ability to render images sharper up close but no lens is perfect :)
Do you mean a better minimum focus distance?
Or just it's sharpness when at it's minimum focus distance?
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Sharpness at minimum focus distance! It seems to be slightly soft or rather less contrasty. Not sure if that makes sense but hopefully it explains what I’ve experienced.
That makes sense, I haven't had any issues with it personally, but I haven't looked for it, it also hasnt popped up so that I'd notice it.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography It would be great if you could have a look whenever you can 😊
Just did some photo test right at minimum focus distance, and using my sharpness guide from this video things seemed good.
At f/2 they weren't perfect but from about f4 I would call it outsanding.
You had me scrambling for the calculator to double check the numbers my head when you said the f/1.4 was only 40% heavier than the f/2. I thought wow, surely it’s a lot more than 40% heavier. I checked and yes the f/1.4 is 300g and that extra 120g is 67% heavier than the 180g f/2.
And amazingly the current AU$799 discounted price is 67% more than AU$479 for the f/2. That really is dollars per gram pricing!
Crazy review - awesome approach !
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Thank you!
Love your methods for testing! A lot of it goes a bit over my head your summaries at the end of each section bring me right back.
I was wondering if you could comments on the focusing distance between the two. I heard people having issues with the f2 lens being not so good.
Hahah when trying to appeal to everyone, the summaries are key.
My current thoughts. Fuji 23mm f2 for weather sealed versatility and 35mm f1.4 for more creative photography 👍
Excluding price the new 33 and 23 seem like the best of everything
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Very true, albeit less discreet, especially with hoods attached!
Thanks so much for this video it's a great comparison. I wasn't sure if you mentioned it so I checked the minimum focus distance after watching this thinking that would be something the 1.4 would have the edge on, but the f2 is 22cm and the f1.4 is 28cm. What an impressive lens.
I spent a good week deciding if I want to get the 1.4 or the f2 version. I went with the f/2 because well I can use it for video and its rather small/light and has weather sealing. I primarily shoot with the 16-55, not a particularly small or light lens paired with the XT4 so the 23 f2 will be my everyday/walk around kinda lens when I want to be light. Although, the 1.4 would be a better option to have complement the 16-55 bt he 23 f2 is way cheaper than the X100V I was looking at 😂 - Great video man!!!! Hope you have a great holiday.
Thank you! And yeah it's a amazing walk around lens.
I personally think that almost the entire F2 lineup is better than their faster counterparts. Most all of them have a special look to them that I love.
Ooo I'll be waiting till you can get your hands on the newer xf18 1.4. I feel like it's going to top the list especially for Astro.
You can now the old f1.4 for the same price as the f2. It’s a no brainer. Thanks for the video.
Great video mate! Been trying to decide between these!👍🇦🇺😎
Thank you!
Thanks for an interesting vido.
Hope you start the tele comparisons early next year
They will be very early on in the year and cheers for the support.
Glad I got xe3 with 23mm f2 as its kit! Phenomenal value I gotta say.
Wow that's a awesome kit you have, I've used that exact kit a bit for travel and LOVED it.
I owned both of these lenses and I sold f2. Because pictures from f1.4 have more character, just like the XF56. Secoundly f2 too soft and only from f4 close up photos get sens. It is simmiliar in softness to X100F. Thats true, that f1.4 is slow and unsealed, but if someone takes only pictures, should stay away from the f2 version.
Each to there own man, I'm just sharing the facts from my testing
3:04 just highlights the amazingness of the XF 1.4 16mm. It beats the 23m telescope on top of Mt Fuji handsomely. Like you said Tb it is in a league if it's own.
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Thank you very much
Great analysis - thanks. You've helped me make up my mind
You're welcome
Agree with you 9n the ergonomics side. I do find the older and fatter lenses fit the body a bit more when it comes to the 23 and 35mms. The 56 just fits it so nicely too 👍
Maybe people with smaller hands than us would love the smaller lenses.
But yes that 56 is STUNNING!
Great video, helped me a lot in my decision! Thanks!
Thank you
Thank you very much! I really enjoyed your video.
anyway, nice channel! its different than others, it offers nice point of views about lens etc.
Thank you
This is a great review. Thank you so much!
Cheers
Here in Norway there is a cashback on the 1.4 lenses so I got the 35mm 1.4 for the same price as I gave for the 23mm f2. To me this is the ideal combination.
That is a insane deal!!
Where? Japanphoto?
@@schatzor No, it was a Fujifilm cashback.
Had the f1.4 but sold it for the f2. Would love to have the 1.4 but they definitely need to sort that autofocus in mark ii. If they could add closer minimum focus and weather sealing then I'd be keen as!
I have some very high hopes / expectations for mark ii lenses.
But I don't feel they are unreasonable
Subbed!! Great video
Great video and very practical as usual :-) just a question, why 2.7m from camera to the board?
Thank you!
I did 2.7 meters just because I needed to have a distance, and I stated it because distance must have some effect on testing (not sure if you're wondering about for the AF test or the sharpness test)
For the sharpness testing this is why I measured the resolution as a percentage so it was more comparable.
And for AF testing I also tested from minimum and maximum focus distance to target and averaged it.
So at 2.7m the minimum to target times where much faster than the infinity to target times.
But it averages out so hopefully I can use these speed test to compare against other lenses unless someone points out a flaw in my testing.
Thanks for the recommendation for this video. Might just spend the £299 on the 18mm to 55mm f2.8-4 second hand.
Unless I missed it in your list, I did not see any of the macro lenses tested.
One thing I like doing with my Mu-43 gear is taking close up photos of very small frogs in reeds. I have to hold my camera in my right hand and use my left hand part the reeds t get a semi clear shot. After all I don't want to harm their environment.
I had a brief hold of an X-S10 in a shop recently and thought it may be light enough to hold with one hand. But they did not have a display macro lens so I could see how the stabilization would work one handed.
If you are interested and can borrow both macro lenses it would be good to see a review of them on a light body to how they perform one and two handed with a small flash attached.
Although I liked the X-T4 better I think it may be to heavy for one handed use. My only negative for the X-S10 from what I can see is no remote shutter socked. Other than that for the price it is looking good for an entry into the Fuji system to see if I like it.
Long term goal will get all lenses tested and compared but the list is long.
I have just been informed of a stabiliser test as well so it will be good to make some videos about that, and macro would be a great subject for it.
I love the little imperfections that gives the video character. 99.7% of the video is excellent, the other 0.3 % is your brand of icing on the cake. ❤️🍰🧁
Hahaha cheers
this video came right when i needed it - comparing this between the 16mm f2, as i need a lens for dj streaming ... i have a 35mm f1.4 and it won't cut it
get the 16. you can shoot 4k and crop the 23mm equivalent into 1080p
@@scottfoltz699 thanks, on the xt4?
Can you review the Viltrox 23 mm 1.4? Perhaps compare to the Fuji versions?
If I can ever get my hands on one, I will.
Nice video. Really covers the difference with quantitative numbers. I love that. But weight difference is 67% heavier, not 40%. 300/180 = 1.67 -> 67% heavier. Minor quibble, though.
Ohhh shit I did my maths the wrong way around, thank you kindly for pointing that out.
Thank you!
Great review. I noticed that many old Fuji X lenses are very popular, but are too loud for video. Looks like Fuji just recently started making more video-centric lenses as to the AF and focusing noise.
It'd be interesting to watch a review and separation of lenses that are 1) new and good for video as to AF and noise and 2) too old and not good for video even having very good specs. I recently started thinking about buying Fuji for vlogging and reviews seldom test lenses for a particular purpose of the video shooting. Reviewers are mostly photographers focusing more on photographic results.
I thought to invest in one all-around good lense for vlogging and it's really a problem to figure out what lenses I should just not consider due to their poor performance as to vlogging. Usually, I first like a lense, and watch many reviews. Then almost after making a decision to buy it some review just demonstrates how loud it is when AF is engaged. Bummer. Then everything starts from scratch and again many reviews, another lens, and again some just mention that it's actually has a terrible AF breathing for video. Now I'm split between 15-45 cheap one and the new 10-24 WR. Vastly different budgets, but maybe the latter won't be that loud.
I've been thinking about that review but I would need all the lenses at once to record accurate audio levels and just to all around do the video as well as I'd like.
Next time Fuji fly me to head office I might ask to go a day early so I can create that video.
As for vlogging lenses I've used the 10-24mm a lot and all my older vlogs about rwanda are filmed using that lens.
But my preference is now the 23mm f/2 as it also lets me get soft backgrounds when needed and is just wide enough for me to still be in frame and be picked up by a on camera microphone when out at about.
I've stopped doing handheld filming though which the 10-24 was great for but was never steady enough for my tastes even with Ibis.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Thanks. I also thought about Fuji 23/2. Did you compare it to Viltrox 23/1.4? Could the latter be even better for a softer background?... And even cheaper. Though w/out WR.
BTW, what lens do you use for these videos with reviews that you film in the room?
I don't currently have a way to get hold of the viltrox lenses but I'd love to.
Most videos are filmed with the 23mm f2.
But this particular one was filmed with the 18-55 at 23mm as it still has great video AF performance
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography I have a question as to filming a talking video like this one of yours. I have X-S10 with kit lens 16-80 F4 and bought 2 popular square led light panels. How important is it to have a smaller aperture for such a video? I'm thinking about buying Viltrox 23 F1.4 and wonder whether I would need F1.4 for such a video at all. Maybe having F1.4 could result in a too narrow depth of field and would result in a worse watching experience since focus would be changing with a person moving a little in front of a camera. What do you think is an optimal aperture with 23mm lens for a talking-head video considering access to led lights for a face etc.?
I shoot all my studio stuff between f/2 and f/4 BUT that is also because my lenses that I use only go that bright.
A lot depends on back ground, distances, amount of movement etc, but I think f/2.8 would look very pleasing to the viewers eye in most situations.
Hope this helps
again, greedy part of me want to see how these fare against Viltrox 23mm f1.4.
Viltrox, if you are seeing this, its about time to send copies to TB right away
I like the things you have to say.
Agree with you. Needs to be compared to the Viltrox. Don't think it will happen tho, he is a Fujifilm ambassador
Viltrox need to be tested, especially being fuji ambassador, because his feedback will directly go to fuji and the chances of improvements in fuji glass in better
Mine arrives today, I'll let you know how it fares
Initial thoughts: the V2 is absolutely excellent. I'm very impressed, especially after hearing so much bad about the original
I will wait for the updated version of the 1.4
That could be a perfect lens
Excellent comparison review. Many thanks. One question: I’ve decided on the 23 f2. Would it, do you think, focus quietly on my X-Pro1 and X-E1 bodies as it does on the more recent models?
As for as volume goes yes 100%, only difference would be speed
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Thank you.
Solid content, cheers!
Thank you!
Great video! I love the F2 lens.
Thank you!
Faster lenses often focus slower as there is more glass to move.
First, thank you for all your videos ! I wonder if you did not switch by mistake the corner/center sharpness charts. How is it possible both lenses are sharper in the corner than in the center?
Wow, this is such a well done comparison. I'm also torn between these two options at the moment myself...Also, would you ever consider doing a 35 f2 vs f1.4?
Plus the 35xc, very much want to do it asap....best wildlife series isn't too far off firstly though
Also, I shoot street. Borrowed the 23 f1.4 a few times and from my small sample experience with the lens, the slower AF speed did cause me to lose some fast moving subjects sometimes, as opposed to my 35 f2 and 16-80 f4, which I don't usually miss shots with. Kind of made me lose interest in getting the lens, even though the quality of the images are superb. But this maybe due to my lack of experience with the lens and focal length. The aperture ring on that particular 23 1.4 is also kinda loose, which was annoying...
Everything to do with that lenses focus system needs a update
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography ah, I see. Thanks for the heads up
Thanks for sharing! I don’t do much video, but Having both these lenses I found the f1.4 much sharper for subjects up close. But To be honest i am not a fan of both. The f1.4 doesn’t always nail the AF perfectly and thats with using the XT4, I wish Fuji would redesign a high end 23mm with F1.1 or F1.2 that has the latest AF Speed motors, Weather resistance and all,
This is the only reason I am still shooting full frame for my pro work, I cant seem to get close to what my full frame 35mm f1.4 lens gives me! I get better Sharpness, subject separation, bokeh and more accurate af with the canon full frame equivalent. Fuji knocked it out of the park with the 16mmF1.4, 56mm f1.2 & 90mm f2 i just love those lenses and use them constantly for my weddings. But unfortunately i cant say the same about there 23mm options.
Yeah mark II lens for some of those older primes has got to come soon I hope.
Is it possible to use the 23mm F1.4 for shooting the Milkyway?
Absolutely it’s a great lens for it…but for many not wide enough for thier taste
I honestly didn't hear the motor of the 1.4 in your vid or is it just me? Also on sharpness, the 1.4 had a clear win in the center, I don'tget it.
I’m confident Fuji will release a new F2 prime with the x100v lens formula. I’m also confident Fuji will release a 23 LM WR R 1.2 or 1.4 soon.
I’m not sure what you mean about the x100v lens formula.
But I’d put money on the second part of that message
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography the X100V 23mm optical formula is different to the original X100 and different to this 23 f2
The x100 series biggest strength is that lens is made and aligned perfectly for that sensor, I’m not sure changeable lens formulas could ever get as good as fixed, but yes I’d love some x100 series magic in the XF series.
Hello, like the video.
I have a question, I am really confused to which one I have to buy. I own already the 35 f2 and I like it, but sometime in a lowlight situation I feel it not the right lens. So my question is, as I like take pictures in low light and if rain is better I should chose the f2 or because the low light the 1.4? is very very hard for me choose between these two lenses, so which is your advice? thank you very much, and have a good day.
If you're not in a rush I'd wait for a mark II or consider the 16mm f/.14 as that is the best of both worlds.
BUT if it has to be 23mm and soon I would pick the f/2 considering everything you just said, hope this helps.
Thank you
Thanks for the vid. I'm thinking about getting a used xt2 to start experimenting with video, vlogging , filming surfing, landscapes, interviews etc. I love primes and was thinking about getting the 35mm f2 and the 18-55. Would that be a better combo than the 35 and the 23? Thanks
I actually really like the 18-55 for video work.
So yes that lens plus either the 35 f2 or the 23 f2 would make a great little starting combo
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography thanks 👍
@@murphyandmurphybrand I picked up a used xt2 last year with the grip and 18-55 and later aquired the 35f2. You won't be disappointed, unless you "need" 10 bit video or Ibis.
Thank you for the informative review. Nice work. I have a question: I started night photography and find focusing challenging. Especially when the subject is close, e.g. like an old rusty car. I am using the depth of field scale on the LCD to select the focus. Have you done any studies how accurate the depth of field scale on the LCD actually is?
It's very inconsistent depending on the lens.
I would suggest using a touch or a cell phone light when focusing, and turn the light off when you're ready to shoot.
Keep it in manual focus etc as well.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Thank you.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Do you know where I can get a hyperfocal chart for the 10-24mm lens?
On the few 10-24 lenses I have used I find the on screen one plus focus peaking to be very accurate.
Just avoid shooting at 10mm
Thanks, your comparison is great. Please do the same with the Fuji 35/2 vs 35/1.4, if it is possible...
I will eventually, plus the xc35 f/2 as well.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Do it, we are waiting for it with pleasure!
Hahaha thank you
Phenomenal
have the F1.4 version and never have an issue with auto focus, maybe because I got it after the firmware update in the XT3 which improved auto focus to like the XT4, I'm unsure. That said I got this lens to cover indoor shooting at this focal range
Thanks 😊
Totally agree 23 f2 is a favourit! Astrophoto? Personally knows to many peoples that can do it much better than me😆! Thanks and be with your familly now.
Thank you, astrophotography = taking photos of stars at night.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Yea, used to build my telescopes and grind my own mirrors. Long time ago, When you learn your skills "frome a book".
Oh sorry I just said that because you said "astrophoto?" I thought you were asking what it meant.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Ha, ha no probleme! Merry Christmas!
Im going out in the snow with my XT4.
Is this the New Version of the 1.4?
This was made before the new version
Do you by any chance ever tried viltrox 23mm 1.4? It would be great if we can see that lens comparison to these lenses.
I haven't sorry and in my part of the world viltrox are pretty hard to get hold of as a company
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography thx for the reply, I've watched your videos, they help a lot when it comes to choosing lenses. Especially when you charted lenses clarity throughout the aperatures.
Thank you for your hard work. I subscribed, I wish you luck on your endeavors and I'm sure you'll make it big with the production you've been putting out.
Thank you! I really appreciate that
how is th viltrox 23mm f1.4?? i heard some good abt that len.. currently own 23 f2. hesitate to get f1.4 viltrox
I haven't been able to get my hands on it sorry
hi! but 2 stops different , means a lots light more?
Great video but have to disagree, the f1.4 is just so much sharper and producers better colours, sure the af is tad slow but who shots sports on a 23mm ?
THANKS BRO
Very well. Do you have the same sharpness graph shown for 16mm 1.4 and 16-80 F4 videos? Thank you!
I do in each of thier own review videos yes
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography
Yes I know. But for the two XF 23 the charts are in % . Do you have a version of the charts of the 2 XF 23 based on 0 to 14? Thank you and sorry for the poor quality of my English ...
Oh no sorry this test is more accurate and comparable for between the two lenses.
And unfortunately I didn't know of these test when I did the other lenses
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Ok,
thank you
I have the 35mm f2 and find that it hunts quite badly when using autofocus for video. I've been considering getting the 23mm f2 for video instead- is it better than the 35mm for video autofocus?
The 23mm f/2 is my favorite lens for video, I can't recommend it enough.
I use it in the xt4 with face detection plus have the focus point set to where my face would be encase I turn my head etc, I think it's flawless
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography thanks for the info! Been really enjoying your content. Looks like I'll be buying the 23mm f2 now- hope fuji give you commission! 👍🏻
How would these compare to the Viltrox 23mm 1.4
I don't have access to viltrox lenses at the moment unfortunately.
Thanks for the video but I should ask you please to speak slower so that foreigners (as I am) can understand eveything you say! You'd win many more viewers, for sure! Thanks!!!
I completely agree, this is a very old video and my newer content as found a much slower pace of speaking.
This really feels a bit biased, 1.4 was SHARPER on both test, do a lay iver graph, MUCH MUCH better on abberations, on par with a fr*king 16mm 2nd spot, real world EQUAL focus speeds on F2, locking manual focus ring with markings and still only 300grams, really don't get your conclusion. Even the noisy motor I hardly heard and is a mute point with a decent mic, and let's not forget 2 whole stops faster and tack sharp at 1.4. Really sounds like a home run......
Dope video!
Thank you!
great video! BTW your background is creepy
Hahaha it's changing weekly, I really dislike the wooden background so everytime I add more light it pulls away from the skin tones, but I promise you I'm aware of the creepyness and working on it hahaha
The T4 has Zebra?!
Yup
81st.
Congrats mate, 81st is a big one, super proud of you
If your not bokeh mad then the f2 is king
The price is double and that is not 40-50%.
The new 23mm WR 1.4 is double the price, which isn’t mentioned in this video.
The older 23mm 1.4 (the lens shown in this video) still appears to be pretty close to 40-50% more than it’s f2 sibling.
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Old 23 f1.4 is around 825-865 euro ,23 f2 is around 420-440 euro and new 23 f1.4 wr is 950 euro in Europe.I do not see where did you get 40-50%.
From USD and NZD, interesting that it’s such a difference in euros
@@ThomasBusbyPhotography Older f1.4 version dropped 200 euro last december due to cash back but now seems to be around 790.Second hand is going between 450 and 550 at the moment.
Great detailed review! Thanks