We follow the papacy. We follow dogmatic truths. But the holy spirit can also guide us to change. And bring new truths. So I will submit to the papacy. I will be gay and proud to be. And I will pray the God does his work in the church. And I know he is. We submit to the church. But we can also discuss. And with our own conscience as st Paul says come up with our own moral standards. If it helps us be true. And as long as it doesn't disobey the basic laws.
The only satanism I see is in the cruel, homophobic statements below. Cast down your stones, fellow sinners. Are you without sin??? Open your hearts, pray your sins are forgiven, as you forgive others for their sins.
All of us are sinners, and the Church does not reject us for our life decisions or sexual preferences, but these priests have put their own exercise of unrestrained sexuality above their ministry, and not accepting that stance doesn't make the Church homophobic. Should I expect the Church to let me receive the Communion if I were a serial killer? Of course I'll be welcome to come and confess, and I'll be sent to also confess my crime to the police. But that's different from demanding the Church to be open to serial killers.
Homosexuality is sinful? You should read up Church history? Burning "witches" at Salem was a very trendy Christian thing to do back in the day. Can you absolutely say for sure that God is against the LGBT people? There are lot absolutist statements the Church has made in the past saying that it's the order of God.
Why is it that these gay priests always have to lie about things? There's nothing wrong with being a gay priest, you have to be like the others and NOT ACT OUT!!!!! YOU TOOK A VOW OF CELEBACY!!!!!
He wants the church to give him the blessings for something contrary to the teachings of the Holy Book .There are reasons why God forbids certain behavior and tells us how to live our life .Do they know more than God?They think so.Pride and arrogance ,there is no trust in the Lord God only wanting what they lyke.
@@RenaissanceEarCandyNo it doesn't. My Hebrew is very shaky but my Koine' is good. I don't read translation I read the Kaine' Diatheke and you can get a very good Greek Interlinear by Nestle and Aland. So do not fool yourself, the Bible forbids sodomy.
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According to canon law none of them should have been ordained priests. There is a potencial conflict of loyalty , to the Church and to your antichristian sexual orientation.
Just like the antiChristian heretical and noncanonical Society of Saint Pius X. Those people are going to burn longer and hotter than any homosexual or murderer or Gnostic or Westminster Reformed person will. MilitantChurch and "Novus Order Watch" will be right next to SSPX.
At no point in the scripture is homosexuality condemned beyond its use as a form of pagan idolatry in the Levitcal Holiness Code. You shall not lay with man as with woman does not condemn being gay as a form of one's god given nature. It, as anyone that reads the whole of the passage will find, condemns its being used to worship false gods. Specifically, Canaanite temple sex involving male prostitutes to commune with a fertility deity other than the God of the Hebrews. The Apostle Paul in his letters refers only to this by way of his using the Septuagint in Romans and never actually does so in Corinthians as the language there pertains to taking sides and being weak (the original Greek reads much differently than most of the NT translations depict). This is why after Vatican II was passed, the Bishops stated that gays were to be welcomed: they were aware of the proper context. It was only when the layity and the lower clergy began to revolt that push back came along. Such is deceit, such is demonic and it needs to stop as it is hurting the church and doing harm to it. The Fatima Center, Church Militant and others are not trying to guide. They're trying to force and mislead so as to control. They are wrong.
Well I'm a straight catholic, attend services regurlarly and we all know there are a few gays among the congregation, but nobody says anything or seems to have a problem with them....don't quite understand why these folks feel the needs to have a separate congregation, why the separation? reminds me of separate but equal thing back in the 50's
There is a difference between saying that no one seems to have a problem with gays and actually believing and treating gays as equals. Imagine you are at a party and you know that most or a lot of people hold onto prejudices about you or just flat out don't like you, or at the very least just tolerate your existence. Wouldn't you feel more comfortable being where you are truly accepted? I would.
Go and sin no more..... That's what Jesus said, not welcoming them to sin in the house of God..... I refuse to leave the church, I will stay and fight the evil within.
He rejects church teaching, he rejects the authority of the bishops and you heard the lady say they do their “services” in a Protestant church. He just another heretic and schismatic. Not a Catholic. Pray for his conversion and for him to come back to the church.
This is VERY VERY DISTURBING!! These men are called to CELIBACY!! God has promised to never let us be tempted beyond our strengh!! I took a private vow of celibacy 15 yrs ago...it wasn't easy at first..but I conquered it with God's help and a reverent FEAR of the Lord...And these men could do the same, they just don't want to!! They are only kidding themselves!
@@troyvance9533 The Catholic Church doesn't want sex outside of marriage because it's a sin and they cover it up because they don't want to lose the people trust because the actions of a few. Most priests are not like that.
Since God is the judge of the hearts of men and women then leave these people alone. Don't go to their church if you don't like it. We must concern ourselves only with our own sin.
Let's not overlook the real issue at hand, there are no gay rights in the church because there ought not be any gays in the church to begin with, only the faithful. One cannot seek unnatural desires of flesh, or mutilate themselves as to say God himself made a mistake in their creation and be close to Christ. You must address the real issues, we are not a earthly body having a spiritual experience we are a spiritual body having an earthly experience. How dare us as the body of Christ condone such blasphemies in the house of God? Have you no respect for the laws of nature? Out with liberalist agenda get your hands out of my faith!!!!!!!!
People get real. Gay men and women exist and have done since Adam and Eve. God made all of us in his likeness. Like it or not we are all his children. The hypocrisy some of you espouse is truly shocking. And you call yourselves Christian. God judges by the deeds we do, not whom we love.
First things first. The sexual problems within Catholicism are bigger than a homosexual issue. Big! Really Big! From its inception Catholicism created documents to establish that by using sex for pleasure, relief, friendship, love, intimacy, satisfaction, or anything other than procreation you will suffer eternal damnation. That is odd. God gives mankind the gift of sex. Catholicism condemns it as a sin. So, how is God represented? The dogmas and doctrines created for two thousand years included tremendous theology but failed to notice this fallacy. Pope Francis knows the values of Catholicism because most of the dogmas and sacraments are superb and should always have been used to support mankind's journey to Heaven. But sex is one of the ways God chose to help mankind. Sin and crime, however, ARE caused by manipulating innocent people into sexuality. Don't do that! The moral fight from the Vatican and throughout the world is occurring because the traditionalists wish to maintain a country club Membership to exclude everyone but themselves. That does not represent God who created sex inalienably to every living thing. Follow Pope Francis through this maize to save Catholicism. cf. my youtube: The Art of Men Acting
Well, you do if you want to call yourself Roman Catholic. You can splinter off and call yourself Rainbow Catholic or whatever you choose. But you are going to have to pay your priests, keep the lights on, not to mention how are you going to educate and consecrate your priests? The last time I looked, the priesthood is CELIBATE. THAT means no sex, am I right? I mean if you are gay and celibate what does it matter?
@@troyvance9533 just got your message and I will agree that it's not important who you love, however it is important who you lay with, who you have sex with! God wants us to love everyone! So therefore all men should love all men and all women should love all women and all men and women should love each other, but when it comes to physical intimate love God made it very clear that that belongs only 2 one woman and one man!!! And thus far as us saving ourselves.....IMPOSSIBLE!!! Yes yes I'm sure you've heard it before but I am still going to say it, onlyJESUS has the power to save us!!!
@@susanr3933 it is true that only JESUS can save us. Only the Father can judge us. Jesus only mentions rules about marriage one time and doesn't mention love between two adult males. He doesn't mention cosentual sex between two adults of the same gender. Marrage was for procreation only.
@@troyvance9533 Love is Beautiful!!! I love my parents, I love my sister, I love my children, but does that mean I can have sex with them??? Of course Jesus did not mention sex between two consenting adults because why would he?? In the church and in the scriptures it is a big sin to have sex with anyone we are not married to and it's called fornication. Whether it be between two men or two women or even a man and a woman. If they are not married it is fornication and scripture also tells us that any unrepentant fornicators will not enter the kingdom!! That was already straightened out before Jesus spoke of marriage and when he spoke of marriage he was talking about a marriage between a man and a woman because in biblical days there was no such thing as a marriage between two men or two women so why would Jesus even speak of such a thing? As far as a holy Sanctified marriage that is blessed by God it can only be between a man and a woman and the other so-called marriage is just a man-made rule that many of the states have adopted for the gay people who are demanding and who have been demanding the day get the same rights as normal people. So they said okay let's let them get married state wise but these marriages are not blessed by God because from the very beginning God made Adam and he made a woman to be with Adam and not just for procreating! He said man should not be alone so he created a helpmate and that was a woman! A true Sanctified marriage by God between a man and a woman it's not just for procreating because many couples get married and already know they can't have children or they find it out after they're married! the joy and pleasure of sex that God himself created was meant for a marriage between a man and a woman and from that Joy and pleasure most often a child is born, a child which is the result of their love! God said a man should leave his family and cling to his wife only!! Two men or two women can love each other very much and even live with each other and in God's eyes that's fine but once they go into the bedroom and they do things that are aberrant, they are fornicators and sodomites in God's eyes and if they really want to get into the kingdom and be saved for all eternity then they have to be celibate!!! but they have an option and that is to get into therapy and try to work out with the therapist why they have the body of a man or let's say the body of a woman and they do not desire each other. it's like here I am I'm a man and I desire to make love to another man and here I am a woman and I don't want a man in my bed I want another woman in my bed... why do so many lesbians buy strap-ons and you know what I'm talkin about. and why do gay men need to have somewhere to insert their penis? excuse me for being explicit but if you think about it these people really have the right desires, but they're just satisfying those desires in the wrong place!! okay so about 10 years ago I had a very dear friend who was gay. He was a very good loving person and we were very close. He came from a very devout Catholic Family and he went to church and he loved God and we had many many long talks about how Disturbed he was because he did have a lover but he just could find no peace. he went finally to a therapist was a friend of mine and was in therapy for quite a long time. Long story short, he met a woman and got married and sad to say she was infertile and could not produce a child but they were very happy together and my husband and I used to see them out in clubs dancing and drinking and I never saw him happier then he was at that time. I asked him once if he ever had the urge to go back to the old Life Style and he was honest and told me the first year of the marriage once in awhile he did have the urge but he did not give into it. well the marriage lasted about 4 years and unfortunately he got sick with cancer and he died. but I know for a fact he died a happy man. I'd don't know what else to say. you have a choice, I hope you choose no matter how hard it is to do the right thing! time is running out and now with this virus God is giving everyone one last chance! God bless you!
@@troyvance9533 The Bible clearly states the union between one man and one woman. When Jesus says it is bad to commit adultery, he is stating it between a man and a women. So if the bible mentioned marriage is between a man and a woman..then talks about marriage...don't you think that Jesus mentions marriage between a man and a woman.
"For some men, who were designated for this judgment long ago, have come in by stealth; they are ungodly, turning the grace of our God into sensuality and denying Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord." (Jude 1:4)
I can see there is a certain problem with homosexuality and abrahamic religions in general (maybe there is a similar problem with other religions, too, but I know too little about that). To make it short Judaism, Christianity and Islam do not allow homosexual actions. Actions, mind you, not feelings. Now for the ordinary people within one of these communities I don't think there is much of a problem (except for those living in Muslim states) and how gays finally decide to act is between them and God. I don't think being homosexual is a decision although I have no idea how someone becomes that way. So whether somebody feels attracted to people of the same sex is their business instead of mine and I don't care at all. There is a problem when some wants to be some kind of religious leader or official, though. As we are told in the video, that priest has been gay for a longer time than the time he is a priest. Well, he knew about the position of the church and he knew what the bible says about it, so why did he become a priest in the first place? I do understand that being a priest is also a way to make a living and if somebody finds out about their sexual orientation after having taken that profession, I can see how difficult it would be to do something else wasting many years of high level education, but if somebody knows that there will be a spiritual conflict and a conflict with the rules of the church, why doesn't he do something else? He could as well have studied theology and work in that field without becoming a priest. What does that man expect the church to do? Change the rules just for him? That's simply not going to happen and for a reason. The bible explicitly forbids homosexual actions (as long as he doesn't act there is no problem) and the church can't ignore that. He wrote a letter to the Pope, fine: What did he want the Pope to do? Change the bible for him? And why does he think he can ask more than heterosexual priests? They are not allowed to act out their sexual desires, so why should he be? And again as long as he doesn't actually do anything he is free to feel the way he does. It is true: the Catholic Chruch is not very happy about gay priests who openly declare being homosexual. According to the bible, a homosexual act is a sin after all so if a priest openly stands for it that's like undermining biblical rules.
The Catholic church approves of man boy love. Why can't they approve of man man love? Why does one of them always have to be under age? They are a dangerous and sinful cult because of man boy love.
@@andreasmeier2868 because I was 11-12 years old, I was raped by a priest. When I reported my abuser, to his archbishop he was simply transfered to another church an hour south. The archbishop told no one at the church why he was transfered. I never heard from him or the archbishop again. The priest died about a year later. I was sexually assaulted by 5 priests in my lifetime. At least 4400 priests have been credibly accused and bishops like Cardinal Law of Boston and Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles covered up after the priests. Cardinal Law was moved to Rome to protect him. When there were consequences for the priest, it was because the case went public. This has been going on since the before the 5th century.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?.. The chicken, because God created all the animals. If you do not believe in God, you will not be able to answer this question. Same as.. if you do not believe in God, you will not spread His words, you will spread your own.
God's law, as it was revealed, is equal to everybody. It does not change to accomodate people's whims and desires. When one does not want the yoke, better move to something that accomodates one's will... is that simple. Yet, these "priests" seem to forget that. How strange...
@@troyvance9533 Thanks for you insight. It's funny you point to scripture, but forget all the other parts where Jesus is quite clear about those who do not keep God's word (when a priest does or teaches something against church doctrine he is not following God's law but contradicting it). You also seem to forget that Peter warns us to be wary of the false prophets and teachers that will introduce new doctrines and that they do the devil's work and one has to be vigilant. Paul and John issue the same warnings. You also seem to forget that one is forbidden to judge INTENTIONS, not actions and that JOHN himself tells us to judge in a righteous (according to God's law) manner. you also seem to forget that while you are virtue signaling you are therefore also issuing a judgement on me. Why do you? And finally, also in John, Jesus also says: "Now judgement is upon this world". But, if you want to use scripture at least use it in a right manner and understand what it means. The verse you use applies to the presence of Jesus on earth, He says He has not come to condemn because his mission is to redeem humanity first, and that is the meaning of the phrase you use. After His Passion, there is no more excuse of those who dismiss God's Word (especially christians). But his condemnation will come without fail, as He himself warns over and over: "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven." what contradicts Church teaching not only must be exposed (especially coming from a priest), it must be shunned, because it tarnishes and denies God's truth and leads souls to ruin. If one is more concerned about fake mercy that the ruin of souls then he is more concerned about his own ego than of the danger that false doctrine presents to the damnation of a soul, including his own God bless
@@marujito22 its funny how little people know about how the cannons of the New testament came together or that the oldest fragment of the new testament is from the gospel of John carbon dated to 125. All we have are from what the monks copied at the Orthodox monasteries of St. Catherines and at Mt. Sini. Many scrolls were piled on a table and the monks prayed. The scrolls that rolled off were rejected. Others were accepted because they were popular or at random. There are letters that scholars believe to be fake such as those written to Timothy and Titus. What is really hilarious is when people quote from the new testament to prove their own petty biases without proof that what they are reading is a accurate or the truth!.
@@troyvance9533 How appropriate that you mention the little people (no pride involved surely, thank the Lord), since Jesus (oh darn, it's still from the New Testament; probably fake, don't tell anyone) has a very interesting phrase concerning those: "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children". What does Jesus know, anyway!!! As for your allegations, the oldest copy of the Bible is the Codex Vaticanus, dated to 300-325, though it is lacking some of the books. But, by 367, a letter of St Athanasius already mentions all 27 books of the New Testament. Since you mention the monastery of St Catherine and Mt SINI (I presume you mean SINAI), it was built between 548 and 565, that is 181 years after all 27 books are already mentioned by St Athanasius. So, how does your logic work? Time travel? It seems the one biased here is you, brother. God bless
@@marujito22 "little people"? Monks? We cannot use the bible as an absolute truth. We have the Nicean Creed, tradition and reason to guide us. When we recieve the HOLY SPIRIT, we have the gift of discernment.
I am born Catholic, this is one of the reasons i dont go church for the past 30 years. If this is what the Church direction is heading, we should all stop going and funding these people.
Then you have no faith in Christ. You have no faith in his promise. Did he not say that the gates of hell would not prevail? And yet you're like a scared child that at the first sign of a little spark start running because you believe it's a full-blown blaze of fire.
I hate these topics cause if you say no your not inclusive i think its very simple if jesus was here he would say no to homosexual acts but he give you the chance as he does with heterosexual you dont think their was homosexuals back than ofcourse it was csuse they wrote about it. Its wrong it doesnt mean they hate you thats just dumb it means we wont tolerate it.
Let's not overlook the real issue at hand, there are no gay rights in the church because there ought not be any gays in the church to begin with, only the faithful. One cannot seek unnatural desires of flesh, or mutilate themselves as to say God himself made a mistake in their creation and be close to Christ. You must address the real issues, we are not a earthly body having a spiritual experience we are a spiritual body having an earthly experience. How dare us as the body of Christ condone such blasphemies in the house of God? Have you no respect for the laws of nature? Out with liberalist agenda get your hands out of my faith!!!!!!!!
This is not about God or being Catholic, they're worshiping their own sexuality.
This is NOT Catholic. It is false, God forgive us.
Alot of priests are gay, but they don't admit it, the catholic church is immoral
@@LmAokatC1 many pastor's are too though lol
The preist serve devil not Jesus.
@@LmAokatC1 Its not the church those are gay persons community
If you do not want to follow the vatican, you can leave the catholic church.
Yup, just go on with whatever your doing and drop the word catholic. I really don't understand all the bitching...
Exactly why dont they give up being Catholic as a whole
No matter what, the Vatican will take your donations. It is a business that is unregulated.
The Pope blesses the LGBTQ people! That is as Vatican as it gets !
We follow the papacy. We follow dogmatic truths. But the holy spirit can also guide us to change. And bring new truths. So I will submit to the papacy. I will be gay and proud to be. And I will pray the God does his work in the church. And I know he is. We submit to the church. But we can also discuss. And with our own conscience as st Paul says come up with our own moral standards. If it helps us be true. And as long as it doesn't disobey the basic laws.
Looks like another Anglican church to me.
The church building is Episcopal but Dignity is Roman
@@troyvance9533 Dignity is heretical.
@@robertlehnert4148 and people who take down their Christmas decorations before The presentation of our lord are heathens!
The only satanism I see is in the cruel, homophobic statements
below. Cast down your stones,
fellow sinners. Are you without
sin???
Open your hearts, pray your sins are forgiven, as you forgive others for their sins.
All of us are sinners, and the Church does not reject us for our life decisions or sexual preferences, but these priests have put their own exercise of unrestrained sexuality above their ministry, and not accepting that stance doesn't make the Church homophobic. Should I expect the Church to let me receive the Communion if I were a serial killer? Of course I'll be welcome to come and confess, and I'll be sent to also confess my crime to the police. But that's different from demanding the Church to be open to serial killers.
Homosexuality is sinful? You should read up Church history? Burning "witches" at Salem was a very trendy Christian thing to do back in the day. Can you absolutely say for sure that God is against the LGBT people? There are lot absolutist statements the Church has made in the past saying that it's the order of God.
@@mystiquemacavityasmr Salem were protestants. The Church is Catholic
What about God’s affirmation? Do you need that?
Yupp. Luckily that’s not yours, Pharisee.
THEY HAVE NO SHAME AT ALL 😥
@Orion Lopezreal followers of Christ walk in the Spirit nothing in the flesh. What about you?
Do you know what walking in the Spirit means.??
Yep, no shame. NONE. Count me as one of them.
We are not the sinners here. You are the sinners. God have mercy on your pitiable souls.
@@beatrizmartinez8645 it means not judging others ya hypocrite!
@@powerliftingcentaur for gay? Cause I'm bi.
This man is not priest and that is not Catholic period!!!
Satan get thee behind me. Your human understanding of God is sad, naive, and arrogant.
God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve incase you are not aware.
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And we all wouldn't exist lol.
Why is it that these gay priests always have to lie about things? There's nothing wrong with being a gay priest, you have to be like the others and NOT ACT OUT!!!!! YOU TOOK A VOW OF CELEBACY!!!!!
There is no gay preist thing
He wants the church to give him the blessings for something contrary to the teachings of the Holy Book .There are reasons why God forbids certain behavior and tells us how to live our life .Do they know more than God?They think so.Pride and arrogance ,there is no trust in the Lord God only wanting what they lyke.
Homophobe?
Sixk not Gods law
God bless you
The Holy book has many mistranslations.
@@RenaissanceEarCandyNo it doesn't. My Hebrew is very shaky but my Koine' is good. I don't read translation I read the Kaine' Diatheke and you can get a very good Greek Interlinear by Nestle and Aland. So do not fool yourself, the Bible forbids sodomy.
They're are not Catholic.
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According to canon law none of them should have been ordained priests. There is a potencial conflict of loyalty , to the Church and to your antichristian sexual orientation.
Just like the antiChristian heretical and noncanonical Society of Saint Pius X. Those people are going to burn longer and hotter than any homosexual or murderer or Gnostic or Westminster Reformed person will. MilitantChurch and "Novus Order Watch" will be right next to SSPX.
What is unchristian is hate and bigotry and protecting priests who rape children.
So even being attracted makes them ineligible?
Unhinged.
Heart-felt gratitude for all 75 comments posted , for being apologetic for the One True Church!
End is near
You are misleading your followers!
At no point in the scripture is homosexuality condemned beyond its use as a form of pagan idolatry in the Levitcal Holiness Code. You shall not lay with man as with woman does not condemn being gay as a form of one's god given nature. It, as anyone that reads the whole of the passage will find, condemns its being used to worship false gods. Specifically, Canaanite temple sex involving male prostitutes to commune with a fertility deity other than the God of the Hebrews. The Apostle Paul in his letters refers only to this by way of his using the Septuagint in Romans and never actually does so in Corinthians as the language there pertains to taking sides and being weak (the original Greek reads much differently than most of the NT translations depict). This is why after Vatican II was passed, the Bishops stated that gays were to be welcomed: they were aware of the proper context. It was only when the layity and the lower clergy began to revolt that push back came along. Such is deceit, such is demonic and it needs to stop as it is hurting the church and doing harm to it. The Fatima Center, Church Militant and others are not trying to guide. They're trying to force and mislead so as to control. They are wrong.
It’s ok. When we die all truths will be clear
Well I'm a straight catholic, attend services regurlarly and we all know there are a few gays among the congregation, but nobody says anything or seems to have a problem with them....don't quite understand why these folks feel the needs to have a separate congregation, why the separation? reminds me of separate but equal thing back in the 50's
There is a difference between saying that no one seems to have a problem with gays and actually believing and treating gays as equals. Imagine you are at a party and you know that most or a lot of people hold onto prejudices about you or just flat out don't like you, or at the very least just tolerate your existence. Wouldn't you feel more comfortable being where you are truly accepted? I would.
You only have to look at the majority of hatefilled comments here to see why we'd rather go to our own church.
Go and sin no more.....
That's what Jesus said, not welcoming them to sin in the house of God.....
I refuse to leave the church, I will stay and fight the evil within.
He rejects church teaching, he rejects the authority of the bishops and you heard the lady say they do their “services” in a Protestant church. He just another heretic and schismatic. Not a Catholic. Pray for his conversion and for him to come back to the church.
How does them being gay affect you at all? Is he personally forcing you do be gay? Or is he existing as any other human
@@croissantgun2498 Being gay defeat the purpose of sex. God created sex for procreation. (In other words, making a baby.)
This is VERY VERY DISTURBING!! These men are called to CELIBACY!! God has promised to never let us be tempted beyond our strengh!! I took a private vow of celibacy 15 yrs ago...it wasn't easy at first..but I conquered it with God's help and a reverent FEAR of the Lord...And these men could do the same, they just don't want to!! They are only kidding themselves!
Which church requires celibacy and which church approves of man boy love and covers it up because they fear bad publicity? Hint: they are the same.
@@troyvance9533 The Catholic Church doesn't want sex outside of marriage because it's a sin and they cover it up because they don't want to lose the people trust because the actions of a few. Most priests are not like that.
"my religion says I can't do that"-Fine
"My religion says YOU can't do that" - not fine.
This is absolutely nauseating !
These people are putting self over God. Jesus says deny yourself and follow him. These people are doing the exact opposite
Since God is the judge of the hearts of men and women then leave these people alone. Don't go to their church if you don't like it. We must concern ourselves only with our own sin.
Great point…
Let's not overlook the real issue at hand, there are no gay rights in the church because there ought not be any gays in the church to begin with, only the faithful. One cannot seek unnatural desires of flesh, or mutilate themselves as to say God himself made a mistake in their creation and be close to Christ. You must address the real issues, we are not a earthly body having a spiritual experience we are a spiritual body having an earthly experience. How dare us as the body of Christ condone such blasphemies in the house of God? Have you no respect for the laws of nature? Out with liberalist agenda get your hands out of my faith!!!!!!!!
This was the video the Alexa bot on discord found when asked to play "Don't be gay"
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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
I would have the truth preached and my soul's salvation. And you?
People get real. Gay men and women exist and have done since Adam and Eve. God made all of us in his likeness. Like it or not we are all his children. The hypocrisy some of you espouse is truly shocking. And you call yourselves Christian. God judges by the deeds we do, not whom we love.
@HaughtyFrenchman
Why should we be prosecuted for love?
@Matthew I'm not a Christian? Also, please explain this?
@@croissantgun2498 you don't know what you are talking about lol
@@croissantgun2498 It's not about love, it's about the actions you're doing.
@@josephdemary4048 what actions are we supposedly doing?
7 years later and there still hasn’t been any improvement
"God cannot bless sin", Rome says. End of story.
Anyway you and your organisation are not the same established by Jesus Christ's Apostles in first century acordnly to the Bible.
Why is he wearing his stole over the chasuble?
Its is NASTY
You admire Cardinal Pell, don't you? Cardinal Mahony must be another favorite of yours.
If priests are celibate how can they be gay? Secuality should be totally irrelevant.
First things first. The sexual problems within Catholicism are bigger than a homosexual issue. Big! Really Big!
From its inception Catholicism created documents to establish that by using sex for pleasure, relief, friendship, love, intimacy, satisfaction, or anything other than procreation you will suffer eternal damnation. That is odd. God gives mankind the gift of sex. Catholicism condemns it as a sin. So, how is God represented? The dogmas and doctrines created for two thousand years included tremendous theology but failed to notice this fallacy. Pope Francis knows the values of Catholicism because most of the dogmas and sacraments are superb and should always have been used to support mankind's journey to Heaven. But sex is one of the ways God chose to help mankind. Sin and crime, however, ARE caused by manipulating innocent people into sexuality. Don't do that! The moral fight from the Vatican and throughout the world is occurring because the traditionalists wish to maintain a country club Membership to exclude everyone but themselves. That does not represent God who created sex inalienably to every living thing. Follow Pope Francis through this maize to save Catholicism. cf. my youtube: The Art of Men Acting
Sorry; you are misinformed
He should not be a priest
Tell the truth
He’s no Catholic.
Well, you do if you want to call yourself Roman Catholic. You can splinter off and call yourself Rainbow Catholic or whatever you choose. But you are going to have to pay your priests, keep the lights on, not to mention how are you going to educate and consecrate your priests? The last time I looked, the priesthood is CELIBATE. THAT means no sex, am I right? I mean if you are gay and celibate what does it matter?
And I forgot to mention, I'm not gay...I am single and was married until my husband left me with 3 children to raise.
@@troyvance9533 just got your message and I will agree that it's not important who you love, however it is important who you lay with, who you have sex with! God wants us to love everyone! So therefore all men should love all men and all women should love all women and all men and women should love each other, but when it comes to physical intimate love God made it very clear that that belongs only 2 one woman and one man!!! And thus far as us saving ourselves.....IMPOSSIBLE!!! Yes yes I'm sure you've heard it before but I am still going to say it, onlyJESUS has the power to save us!!!
@@susanr3933 it is true that only JESUS can save us. Only the Father can judge us. Jesus only mentions rules about marriage one time and doesn't mention love between two adult males. He doesn't mention cosentual sex between two adults of the same gender. Marrage was for procreation only.
@@troyvance9533 Love is Beautiful!!! I love my parents, I love my sister, I love my children, but does that mean I can have sex with them??? Of course Jesus did not mention sex between two consenting adults because why would he?? In the church and in the scriptures it is a big sin to have sex with anyone we are not married to and it's called fornication. Whether it be between two men or two women or even a man and a woman. If they are not married it is fornication and scripture also tells us that any unrepentant fornicators will not enter the kingdom!! That was already straightened out before Jesus spoke of marriage and when he spoke of marriage he was talking about a marriage between a man and a woman because in biblical days there was no such thing as a marriage between two men or two women so why would Jesus even speak of such a thing? As far as a holy Sanctified marriage that is blessed by God it can only be between a man and a woman and the other so-called marriage is just a man-made rule that many of the states have adopted for the gay people who are demanding and who have been demanding the day get the same rights as normal people. So they said okay let's let them get married state wise but these marriages are not blessed by God because from the very beginning God made Adam and he made a woman to be with Adam and not just for procreating! He said man should not be alone so he created a helpmate and that was a woman! A true Sanctified marriage by God between a man and a woman it's not just for procreating because many couples get married and already know they can't have children or they find it out after they're married! the joy and pleasure of sex that God himself created was meant for a marriage between a man and a woman and from that Joy and pleasure most often a child is born, a child which is the result of their love! God said a man should leave his family and cling to his wife only!! Two men or two women can love each other very much and even live with each other and in God's eyes that's fine but once they go into the bedroom and they do things that are aberrant, they are fornicators and sodomites in God's eyes and if they really want to get into the kingdom and be saved for all eternity then they have to be celibate!!! but they have an option and that is to get into therapy and try to work out with the therapist why they have the body of a man or let's say the body of a woman and they do not desire each other. it's like here I am I'm a man and I desire to make love to another man and here I am a woman and I don't want a man in my bed I want another woman in my bed... why do so many lesbians buy strap-ons and you know what I'm talkin about. and why do gay men need to have somewhere to insert their penis? excuse me for being explicit but if you think about it these people really have the right desires, but they're just satisfying those desires in the wrong place!!
okay so about 10 years ago I had a very dear friend who was gay. He was a very good loving person and we were very close. He came from a very devout Catholic Family and he went to church and he loved God and we had many many long talks about how Disturbed he was because he did have a lover but he just could find no peace. he went finally to a therapist was a friend of mine and was in therapy for quite a long time. Long story short, he met a woman and got married and sad to say she was infertile and could not produce a child but they were very happy together and my husband and I used to see them out in clubs dancing and drinking and I never saw him happier then he was at that time. I asked him once if he ever had the urge to go back to the old Life Style and he was honest and told me the first year of the marriage once in awhile he did have the urge but he did not give into it. well the marriage lasted about 4 years and unfortunately he got sick with cancer and he died. but I know for a fact he died a happy man. I'd don't know what else to say. you have a choice, I hope you choose no matter how hard it is to do the right thing! time is running out and now with this virus God is giving everyone one last chance! God bless you!
@@troyvance9533 The Bible clearly states the union between one man and one woman. When Jesus says it is bad to commit adultery, he is stating it between a man and a women. So if the bible mentioned marriage is between a man and a woman..then talks about marriage...don't you think that Jesus mentions marriage between a man and a woman.
@@beastboy2596 ok.
I’m as Catholic as this guy. (I’m not Catholic)
THEY ARE LAUGHING AT THE LORD'S BIBLE COMMANDS
This guy will never give up sausage for Lent.
God bless you all who are in search of the truth!
totally insane
"For some men, who were designated for this judgment long ago, have come in by stealth; they are ungodly, turning the grace of our God into sensuality and denying Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord." (Jude 1:4)
Are you talking about the pedophiles?
This madness!! Whats happening with people under holy roman catholic!! My goodness.!!! Sick!!
I can see there is a certain problem with homosexuality and abrahamic religions in general (maybe there is a similar problem with other religions, too, but I know too little about that). To make it short Judaism, Christianity and Islam do not allow homosexual actions. Actions, mind you, not feelings. Now for the ordinary people within one of these communities I don't think there is much of a problem (except for those living in Muslim states) and how gays finally decide to act is between them and God. I don't think being homosexual is a decision although I have no idea how someone becomes that way. So whether somebody feels attracted to people of the same sex is their business instead of mine and I don't care at all.
There is a problem when some wants to be some kind of religious leader or official, though. As we are told in the video, that priest has been gay for a longer time than the time he is a priest. Well, he knew about the position of the church and he knew what the bible says about it, so why did he become a priest in the first place? I do understand that being a priest is also a way to make a living and if somebody finds out about their sexual orientation after having taken that profession, I can see how difficult it would be to do something else wasting many years of high level education, but if somebody knows that there will be a spiritual conflict and a conflict with the rules of the church, why doesn't he do something else? He could as well have studied theology and work in that field without becoming a priest. What does that man expect the church to do? Change the rules just for him? That's simply not going to happen and for a reason. The bible explicitly forbids homosexual actions (as long as he doesn't act there is no problem) and the church can't ignore that.
He wrote a letter to the Pope, fine: What did he want the Pope to do? Change the bible for him? And why does he think he can ask more than heterosexual priests? They are not allowed to act out their sexual desires, so why should he be? And again as long as he doesn't actually do anything he is free to feel the way he does.
It is true: the Catholic Chruch is not very happy about gay priests who openly declare being homosexual. According to the bible, a homosexual act is a sin after all so if a priest openly stands for it that's like undermining biblical rules.
The Catholic church approves of man boy love. Why can't they approve of man man love? Why does one of them always have to be under age? They are a dangerous and sinful cult because of man boy love.
@@troyvance9533 What makes you think the Catholic Church approves of man boy love? That's complete nonsense.
@@andreasmeier2868 because I was 11-12 years old, I was raped by a priest. When I reported my abuser, to his archbishop he was simply transfered to another church an hour south. The archbishop told no one at the church why he was transfered. I never heard from him or the archbishop again. The priest died about a year later. I was sexually assaulted by 5 priests in my lifetime. At least 4400 priests have been credibly accused and bishops like Cardinal Law of Boston and Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles covered up after the priests. Cardinal Law was moved to Rome to protect him. When there were consequences for the priest, it was because the case went public. This has been going on since the before the 5th century.
Sick!!!
Being a Priest is truly a waste of a life
Hey I saw you on another video hmmm. I forgot which one tho. Totally agree with you.
No it's not. It is one of the most important thing a man can do.
Very reason the church needs to weed out the gay priest, they may commit heresy.
Father is no longer, perhaps never was, a Catholic. He is a fraud.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?.. The chicken, because God created all the animals.
If you do not believe in God, you will not be able to answer this question.
Same as.. if you do not believe in God, you will not spread His words, you will spread your own.
But its gay..St Paul kinda had something to say about it..
If he is identifying with his sexuality, he is not celibate.
He loves his sin more than God......very sad.
This is why I'm leaving,
Sick souls
God loves everyone but forbids homosexuality. Period.
You cant be a priest if you are against the teachings..
These wolves in sheep clothing will burn in hell
Gay marriage an American problems which bishop strickland removes on this defends from tradition
This is why you can be Gay and Catholic -
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God's law, as it was revealed, is equal to everybody. It does not change to accomodate people's whims and desires. When one does not want the yoke, better move to something that accomodates one's will... is that simple.
Yet, these "priests" seem to forget that. How strange...
The will of GOD is that we love each other as he loved us. He didn't come to judge anyone (John 3: 17). Why do you?
@@troyvance9533 Thanks for you insight. It's funny you point to scripture, but forget all the other parts where Jesus is quite clear about those who do not keep God's word (when a priest does or teaches something against church doctrine he is not following God's law but contradicting it).
You also seem to forget that Peter warns us to be wary of the false prophets and teachers that will introduce new doctrines and that they do the devil's work and one has to be vigilant. Paul and John issue the same warnings.
You also seem to forget that one is forbidden to judge INTENTIONS, not actions and that JOHN himself tells us to judge in a righteous (according to God's law) manner.
you also seem to forget that while you are virtue signaling you are therefore also issuing a judgement on me. Why do you?
And finally, also in John, Jesus also says: "Now judgement is upon this world".
But, if you want to use scripture at least use it in a right manner and understand what it means. The verse you use applies to the presence of Jesus on earth, He says He has not come to condemn because his mission is to redeem humanity first, and that is the meaning of the phrase you use. After His Passion, there is no more excuse of those who dismiss God's Word (especially christians).
But his condemnation will come without fail, as He himself warns over and over: "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven."
what contradicts Church teaching not only must be exposed (especially coming from a priest), it must be shunned, because it tarnishes and denies God's truth and leads souls to ruin. If one is more concerned about fake mercy that the ruin of souls then he is more concerned about his own ego than of the danger that false doctrine presents to the damnation of a soul, including his own
God bless
@@marujito22 its funny how little people know about how the cannons of the New testament came together or that the oldest fragment of the new testament is from the gospel of John carbon dated to 125. All we have are from what the monks copied at the Orthodox monasteries of St. Catherines and at Mt. Sini.
Many scrolls were piled on a table and the monks prayed. The scrolls that rolled off were rejected. Others were accepted because they were popular or at random. There are letters that scholars believe to be fake such as those written to Timothy and Titus. What is really hilarious is when people quote from the new testament to prove their own petty biases without proof that what they are reading is a accurate or the truth!.
@@troyvance9533 How appropriate that you mention the little people (no pride involved surely, thank the Lord), since Jesus (oh darn, it's still from the New Testament; probably fake, don't tell anyone) has a very interesting phrase concerning those: "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children".
What does Jesus know, anyway!!!
As for your allegations, the oldest copy of the Bible is the Codex Vaticanus, dated to 300-325, though it is lacking some of the books.
But, by 367, a letter of St Athanasius already mentions all 27 books of the New Testament.
Since you mention the monastery of St Catherine and Mt SINI (I presume you mean SINAI), it was built between 548 and 565, that is 181 years after all 27 books are already mentioned by St Athanasius. So, how does your logic work? Time travel?
It seems the one biased here is you, brother.
God bless
@@marujito22 "little people"? Monks? We cannot use the bible as an absolute truth. We have the Nicean Creed, tradition and reason to guide us. When we recieve the HOLY SPIRIT, we have the gift of discernment.
At last a church I'd like to attend. Bravo Dignity!
He no priest
YES YOU DO NEED AFFIRMATION
Good for you Father! Change will come!
The doomsday has came! When catholic priest agreed to lgbt!
I am born Catholic, this is one of the reasons i dont go church for the past 30 years. If this is what the Church direction is heading, we should all stop going and funding these people.
Then you have no faith in Christ. You have no faith in his promise. Did he not say that the gates of hell would not prevail? And yet you're like a scared child that at the first sign of a little spark start running because you believe it's a full-blown blaze of fire.
I feel sorry for these people, I don’t understand how they can exspect the church to change Gods laws, God male and female to procreate ,enough said.
Liebelein, Homosexualität ist Teil der Natur des Menschen. Sie ist Teil von Gottes guter Schöpfung 😘 🌈 😘 🌈 😘 🌈 😘 🌈 😘 🌈 😘 🌈 😘 🌈
Devil!!
Devil!
@@croissantgun2498 shamless we will not accept you never
@@deraralk3916 why not? how does me wanting to be with another woman actually affect your life?
They brain washed my son
I sick of them.
How they did that?
I hate these topics cause if you say no your not inclusive i think its very simple if jesus was here he would say no to homosexual acts but he give you the chance as he does with heterosexual you dont think their was homosexuals back than ofcourse it was csuse they wrote about it. Its wrong it doesnt mean they hate you thats just dumb it means we wont tolerate it.
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Let's not overlook the real issue at hand, there are no gay rights in the church because there ought not be any gays in the church to begin with, only the faithful. One cannot seek unnatural desires of flesh, or mutilate themselves as to say God himself made a mistake in their creation and be close to Christ. You must address the real issues, we are not a earthly body having a spiritual experience we are a spiritual body having an earthly experience. How dare us as the body of Christ condone such blasphemies in the house of God? Have you no respect for the laws of nature? Out with liberalist agenda get your hands out of my faith!!!!!!!!
And there shouldn't be any sinners in church! Sin is sin. So I guess you better get to going because your sin is no different