@adam One should not be in the military as a nation that does not need a standing army to win a war = Psalm 81: 13-15. See also Deut 28:7 & Isaiah 41:12 & I Samuel 8:20. The promise of protection is repeated in the New Testament Luke 1:69-75. See also Luke 3:14 where Roman soldiers (who had previously signed 20 year contracts with the military) were told 𝒅𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒓𝒎 𝒕𝒐 𝒏𝒐 𝒐𝒏𝒆. Christian soldiers are expressly FORBIDDEN to kill enemies. This is something the WWCG and other Christian professing churches refuse to teach even though it is in the New Testament.
King James Version Mark 1: 1 "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; 14 Now after John had been put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."
I’m currently a “Bible Church” that I can best describe as Baptist, but it doesn’t pay dues to the SBC or anything like that. Wonderful pastor, people and all. Being the critical thinker that I think I am, I notice so many inconsistencies with what the text of the Bible says. And a lot of reliance on what we want it to say to make everyone feel good. I can’t help but notice that what makes most people feel like they landed on the right church for them is rooted in Paganism. Human nature being what it is loves paganism. Most churches can’t even agree on the basics like the Ten Commandments. I understand that we are saved through the grace of Christ’s sacrifice. But seriously, we don’t have to walk by any standard of conduct and disregard God’s commandments? I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to walk by Christ’s example, but maybe that’s just too burdensome :(
We live according to God's principles because we ARE saved, not to BECOME saved. Any conduct we follow does not save us. It is strictly by the grace of God through the blood of Christ. If you're having difficulty in processing this, I would strongly encourage you to ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. He will give it to you. Wishing you all the best.
@@raybo1018 What you said is exactly what I believe. There is not a single commandment that I follow or sacrament that I can make that will save me. We must repent and be baptized. Repentance meaning we are sorry and except Christ’s forgiveness and then I assume, walk on His footsteps and witness the gospel to others. But what I’m hearing and witnessing is “well since I am saved by grace, my conduct really doesn’t matter anymore”
@@joeybanez310 nothing we do or don't do will save us. We are all depraved. None of us can do good or follow God's standards perfectly. In fact it was one act of disobedience that brought about the fall of the human race. When we don't go by God's standards, are there consequences? Absolutely. Our God is a loving Father who disciplines us. But we don't get cast off for sinning, then nobody could ever be saved.
@@raybo1018 yes. Once again, I agree. We cannot live perfectly as Christ did, therefore we are doomed if not for Christ’s sacrifice. But since you put it in these terms “God’s principles” and “God’s standards”, how are these standards enumerated or expressed as an example for us to follow? Or is it just a tingly feeling that lets us know we are doing the right thing according to scripture?
@@joeybanez310 okay, apparently I'm missing what you're trying to say. Why don't you just get to point and tell me what you seem to want me to figure out?
The WWCOG was small until Ted Armstrong became the teacher. Then it grew tremendously. Garner Ted was a very gifted public speaker. The only problem is he was teaching what is now referred to as Hebrew roots. Or messianic Christianity, which teaches the keeping of Saturday Sabbath. keeping Sunday is the mark of the antichrist beast system. They teach soul sleep when you die you go to the grave and sleep until the resurrection. And you reject all of the worlds holidays and you only keep the biblical feast days of the Hebrew people . Jesus was not born on December 25. But he may have been conceived around that time. He was born between September and October. They keep Passover and not Easter. all of the holidays of the Roman Catholic Church Christianized are not biblical. They keep the kosher laws concerning food and are only supposed to eat the clean food that God permitted. They believe in praying for the sick And divine healing. And the church must have somewhere in the name church of God. They teach that you are born again at the resurrection, and when you are converted you are begotten. But you’re not born until the resurrection at the resurrection you become part of the God family, they do not teach The Lord Jesus Christ is eternal with the father. Jesus had short hair. And that he died on a single pole and not cross . And that the Holy Spirit is not a person, and you must join a form of that church with water baptism, laying on hands in the receiving of the Holy Spirit to be a part of the true church, and unless you are a member of a good standing and tithe three levels of tithing you will be lost. And hell is not eternal but you will be burned up. I call it annihilation theology. Herbert Armstrong taught that he was the greatest and the truest prophet of Jesus Christ since Jesus Christ. The good news is that you can have a part in the kingdom of God coming kingdom here on this earth only. No one goes to heaven at any time.
My grandfather knew HWA and my parents knew Garner Ted. It was funny when Garner Ted did the interview with Playboy. We have one splinter group here in Honolulu..i forgot the name. I've never attended. I did go to a Shepherd's Rod service at their commune on the other island.
Thank you. 😊
Could you possibly number these videos? Or, put them in a playlist?
Thanks
My buddt in HS was in this cult also. What about being encouraged or forbidden NOT to join the military?
yes they were forbidden from military service or any type of public service and strongly opposed to anyone being in entertainment.
@adam
One should not be in the military as a nation that does not need a standing army to win a war = Psalm 81: 13-15. See also Deut 28:7 & Isaiah 41:12 & I Samuel 8:20. The promise of protection is repeated in the New Testament Luke 1:69-75. See also Luke 3:14 where Roman soldiers (who had previously signed 20 year contracts with the military) were told 𝒅𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒓𝒎 𝒕𝒐 𝒏𝒐 𝒐𝒏𝒆. Christian soldiers are expressly FORBIDDEN to kill enemies. This is something the WWCG and other Christian professing churches refuse to teach even though it is in the New Testament.
King James Version Mark 1:
1 "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; 14 Now after John had been put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."
I’m currently a “Bible Church” that I can best describe as Baptist, but it doesn’t pay dues to the SBC or anything like that. Wonderful pastor, people and all. Being the critical thinker that I think I am, I notice so many inconsistencies with what the text of the Bible says. And a lot of reliance on what we want it to say to make everyone feel good. I can’t help but notice that what makes most people feel like they landed on the right church for them is rooted in Paganism. Human nature being what it is loves paganism. Most churches can’t even agree on the basics like the Ten Commandments. I understand that we are saved through the grace of Christ’s sacrifice. But seriously, we don’t have to walk by any standard of conduct and disregard God’s commandments? I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to walk by Christ’s example, but maybe that’s just too burdensome :(
We live according to God's principles because we ARE saved, not to BECOME saved. Any conduct we follow does not save us. It is strictly by the grace of God through the blood of Christ. If you're having difficulty in processing this, I would strongly encourage you to ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. He will give it to you. Wishing you all the best.
@@raybo1018 What you said is exactly what I believe. There is not a single commandment that I follow or sacrament that I can make that will save me. We must repent and be baptized. Repentance meaning we are sorry and except Christ’s forgiveness and then I assume, walk on His footsteps and witness the gospel to others. But what I’m hearing and witnessing is “well since I am saved by grace, my conduct really doesn’t matter anymore”
@@joeybanez310 nothing we do or don't do will save us. We are all depraved. None of us can do good or follow God's standards perfectly. In fact it was one act of disobedience that brought about the fall of the human race. When we don't go by God's standards, are there consequences? Absolutely. Our God is a loving Father who disciplines us. But we don't get cast off for sinning, then nobody could ever be saved.
@@raybo1018 yes. Once again, I agree. We cannot live perfectly as Christ did, therefore we are doomed if not for Christ’s sacrifice. But since you put it in these terms “God’s principles” and “God’s standards”, how are these standards enumerated or expressed as an example for us to follow? Or is it just a tingly feeling that lets us know we are doing the right thing according to scripture?
@@joeybanez310 okay, apparently I'm missing what you're trying to say. Why don't you just get to point and tell me what you seem to want me to figure out?
The WWCOG was small until Ted Armstrong became the teacher. Then it grew tremendously. Garner Ted was a very gifted public speaker. The only problem is he was teaching what is now referred to as Hebrew roots. Or messianic Christianity, which teaches the keeping of Saturday Sabbath. keeping Sunday is the mark of the antichrist beast system. They teach soul sleep when you die you go to the grave and sleep until the resurrection. And you reject all of the worlds holidays and you only keep the biblical feast days of the Hebrew people . Jesus was not born on December 25. But he may have been conceived around that time. He was born between September and October. They keep Passover and not Easter. all of the holidays of the Roman Catholic Church Christianized are not biblical. They keep the kosher laws concerning food and are only supposed to eat the clean food that God permitted. They believe in praying for the sick And divine healing. And the church must have somewhere in the name church of God. They teach that you are born again at the resurrection, and when you are converted you are begotten. But you’re not born until the resurrection at the resurrection you become part of the God family, they do not teach The Lord Jesus Christ is eternal with the father. Jesus had short hair. And that he died on a single pole and not cross . And that the Holy Spirit is not a person, and you must join a form of that church with water baptism, laying on hands in the receiving of the Holy Spirit to be a part of the true church, and unless you are a member of a good standing and tithe three levels of tithing you will be lost. And hell is not eternal but you will be burned up. I call it annihilation theology. Herbert Armstrong taught that he was the greatest and the truest prophet of Jesus Christ since Jesus Christ. The good news is that you can have a part in the kingdom of God coming kingdom here on this earth only. No one goes to heaven at any time.
That’s what Christ taught
I grew up in too baby till 32
My heart goes out to you
My grandfather knew HWA and my parents knew Garner Ted. It was funny when Garner Ted did the interview with Playboy. We have one splinter group here in Honolulu..i forgot the name. I've never attended. I did go to a Shepherd's Rod service at their commune on the other island.
Do you believe that people who were in the WWCG will be in heaven?
It’s not for me to say regarding individual souls. But I will say that teachings of the WCG definitely kept people out of heaven
@@silver-en7kl You are entitled to your opinion and apparently you still worship that dead false apostle. I feel very sorry for you.
The meek shall inherit the”world”
That was the worse church too ever go too part my family still in different ones that teach that way my family is divided
@@beckyboo917 My heart goes out to you.
The church was not political.
Get over your personal grievance. It's your problem not the world's...
It’s my channel, my videos, I’ll say what I want. If you don’t like it, then move on.