I’m completely self taught apart from seeing my dad back in the nineties with his Olympus OM (that was also my first camera 20 years later) and I never know how much editing is kosher, and now I realize that maybe it’s not the quantity but the story you tell through it, and the quality with which you can embed it in your photo like it’s always been a part of it, and I’ve never learnt as much as I’m learning with your videos. I was out in Geneva today with only a 35mm and profile set to monochrome, I deactivated the picture display function and stuck my eye to the viewfinder. I took 173 pics in a couple hours and saved 17. Needless to mention it might be my best street session EVER and it’s just thanks to your teachings. You both do an amazing job. It’s an inspiration.
Thank you!!! Please keep up this series!! Extremely helpful!!! I have an M10M I'm in love with, but need some insight and inspiration on my post work...this is VERY much appreciated!! Thank you!! CC
Great video Jeff it’s very interesting seeing you work flow and thoughts as you edit. I look forward to seeing you future videos on editing. I feel I am still developing my style with my back and white edits I tend to use Silver Efex at the moment for my con version to black and white withe the base work done in Lightroom on the colour RAW file. Thank you for sharing how you edited your work.
Thanks, Neil. Silver Efex is a pretty good app, so is DXO’s FilmPack. I used to use both but got fed up of having to switch between apps. I also got annoyed at DXO and their upgrade policy, so I decided to sit down one week and work out how to do everything in Lightroom. I couldn’t do everything I wanted, and I still had to use photoshop for some things, but the latest version of LR with the masking has been the final piece of the jigsaw for me. If Adobe carry over their curves adjustment for masks that they have in Camera Raw to LR, I can’t honestly see me using Photoshop for editing at all.
The change Adobe have made to Lightroom a great as you say Jeff . I do drop in to Photoshop myself for applying silver Efex and curves layers. I have a selection of silver Efex film presets which I like to use as a starting point. I do like the masking in Lightroom so tend to use Lightroom for the masking once I have done the conversion. I will have have a play around so I don’t do so much back and forward.
I must admit that I am a lazy editor. I tend to photograph as-is for the most part; if my exposure and/or composition is far off than what I expected I'm more than likely to delete the image. Yet, I know, I am missing out on using the technology available to me. Your tips are extremely helpful as you simplified the process. The masking feature in particular is one that I am putting to work. Many thanks for this!
I’m having a blast at the moment going through my back catalogue and practicing my editing using your presets pack. I’m amazed at what I can do using your tips and suggestions within these videos. You obviously use M series Leicas, I wonder whether your advice regarding grain selection is applicable to a Q2?
Glad I can help. With regard to the grain, the basic rule of thumb is that the bigger the sensor size, the more grain you can add. You can do this by increasing the grain slider, or go up to a more coarser grain. A medium grain will look fine on an 18MP Leica M9 file, but you probably won't see it on a Q2. So go to fast grain and see how that looks.
Excellent as always. Which input does Sarah have when it comes to you editing the photos? Does she demand a the occasional redo if you have not quite met her intentions?
Thank you, Frank. Sarah tends to leave the edits to me but that’s only a recent thing. She trusts me to get the look that she wants. In the past, I used to sit down with her and work through the images together so that I understood what it is she wanted from her images. The only time she gets involved now is if she’s unhappy with the crop which sometimes happens.
@@WalkLikeAlice A perfectly reasonable arrangement. So you have become her favourite printer! ☺ Still, you're doing a bit of photography of your own 😁 . Sorry for the teasing, you have become an amazing wideangle street photographer in your own right. My favorite Jeff-wideangle is the "kiss t the Geneve fountain" photograph (05:19 in the Geneve film) This is really really good on so many levels!
I don't really edit much, what I do is just some exposure adjustments when converting the raw to a jpg in camera raw on Photoshop. Do you have some tips to where to start when looking to edit? because when I try it doesn't look so good like trying brighten up a face in the photo and make it that person look like a lamp post. I don't need that much to edit because i like the simplicity of doing some minor adjustment and like the raw files right out of the camera but I also like to edit things thus why I use Photoshop and would be nice to get better pictures with more flavor
Start off with getting the basics right. Exposure, black point and white point. Take a look at the image from there and see if you are happy with it. I have a particular look to my edits, and it’s probably a bit more involved than a lot of photographers. So go with what looks right for you. Practice, like everything else in photography, is everything and I spend many, many hours working things out, practising techniques, and looking at different ways of working.
You can’t do that without affecting the position of the main subject within the frame, diminishing the impact of the arms coming in from the right, and causing the figures in the mural to be too close to the top of the frame. 🙂
@@arsulaksono881 I have no idea. His compositions are very strong and lend themselves to a high contrast edit, but other than that, I wouldn’t know how he’s editing his work.
I thought I was good at editing until I watched this. What a difference. The image is obviously great but the editing really makes it brilliant.
Thank you, Michael.
Great insight, very inspirational. Slow paced and serene, you are a very good teacher 👌🏼✨
Thank you
I’m completely self taught apart from seeing my dad back in the nineties with his Olympus OM (that was also my first camera 20 years later) and I never know how much editing is kosher, and now I realize that maybe it’s not the quantity but the story you tell through it, and the quality with which you can embed it in your photo like it’s always been a part of it, and I’ve never learnt as much as I’m learning with your videos.
I was out in Geneva today with only a 35mm and profile set to monochrome, I deactivated the picture display function and stuck my eye to the viewfinder. I took 173 pics in a couple hours and saved 17. Needless to mention it might be my best street session EVER and it’s just thanks to your teachings.
You both do an amazing job. It’s an inspiration.
Thank you so much for your very kind words. I’m so glad we are helping you with your photography. It means a lot to us. 🙏
Nice! I never knew about the object or the color wheel for black and white. Thanks for the tips!
No problem. Thanks for watching 🙏
Thank you!!!
Please keep up this series!! Extremely helpful!!!
I have an M10M I'm in love with, but need some insight and inspiration on my post work...this is VERY much appreciated!!
Thank you!!
CC
Thanks for watching. Glad you are getting something from the videos.
Very informative. The end result is almost like a Renaissance painting
Thanks John
Masterful editing!
Thank you
Thanks Jeff, that was a really informative video. It's always interesting to see how people edit their images. Great image too, full of intrigue!
Thanks Mark.
Nice video!!🔥
So beautiful shot and work!✨
Thank you 🙏
Thank you! Very well done and really informative.
Great video! Wonderful photography! I just subscribed yesterday really enjoying your channel.
Thank you so much. Glad to have you on board 🙏🙏
Brilliant editing. Learned a lot from it. Thanks
Thank you
Wow. Fabulous work, from start to finish
Thank you so much
Great video Jeff it’s very interesting seeing you work flow and thoughts as you edit. I look forward to seeing you future videos on editing. I feel I am still developing my style with my back and white edits I tend to use Silver Efex at the moment for my con version to black and white withe the base work done in Lightroom on the colour RAW file. Thank you for sharing how you edited your work.
Thanks, Neil. Silver Efex is a pretty good app, so is DXO’s FilmPack. I used to use both but got fed up of having to switch between apps. I also got annoyed at DXO and their upgrade policy, so I decided to sit down one week and work out how to do everything in Lightroom. I couldn’t do everything I wanted, and I still had to use photoshop for some things, but the latest version of LR with the masking has been the final piece of the jigsaw for me. If Adobe carry over their curves adjustment for masks that they have in Camera Raw to LR, I can’t honestly see me using Photoshop for editing at all.
The change Adobe have made to Lightroom a great as you say Jeff . I do drop in to Photoshop myself for applying silver Efex and curves layers. I have a selection of silver Efex film presets which I like to use as a starting point. I do like the masking in Lightroom so tend to use Lightroom for the masking once I have done the conversion. I will have have a play around so I don’t do so much back and forward.
Fantastic video. Look forward to more editing videos. Learbedva lot. Thank you for taking time to put his together
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
A very helpful and practical video even though I'm not a Lightroom user. Thank you very much!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching. What are you using for your editing?
I must admit that I am a lazy editor. I tend to photograph as-is for the most part; if my exposure and/or composition is far off than what I expected I'm more than likely to delete the image. Yet, I know, I am missing out on using the technology available to me. Your tips are extremely helpful as you simplified the process. The masking feature in particular is one that I am putting to work. Many thanks for this!
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching.
I’m having a blast at the moment going through my back catalogue and practicing my editing using your presets pack. I’m amazed at what I can do using your tips and suggestions within these videos. You obviously use M series Leicas, I wonder whether your advice regarding grain selection is applicable to a Q2?
Glad I can help. With regard to the grain, the basic rule of thumb is that the bigger the sensor size, the more grain you can add. You can do this by increasing the grain slider, or go up to a more coarser grain. A medium grain will look fine on an 18MP Leica M9 file, but you probably won't see it on a Q2. So go to fast grain and see how that looks.
Thank you so much for replying. I’ll definitely give that a try.
Excellent as always. Which input does Sarah have when it comes to you editing the photos? Does she demand a the occasional redo if you have not quite met her intentions?
Thank you, Frank. Sarah tends to leave the edits to me but that’s only a recent thing. She trusts me to get the look that she wants. In the past, I used to sit down with her and work through the images together so that I understood what it is she wanted from her images.
The only time she gets involved now is if she’s unhappy with the crop which sometimes happens.
@@WalkLikeAlice A perfectly reasonable arrangement. So you have become her favourite printer! ☺ Still, you're doing a bit of photography of your own 😁 . Sorry for the teasing, you have become an amazing wideangle street photographer in your own right. My favorite Jeff-wideangle is the "kiss t the Geneve fountain" photograph (05:19 in the Geneve film) This is really really good on so many levels!
I don't really edit much, what I do is just some exposure adjustments when converting the raw to a jpg in camera raw on Photoshop. Do you have some tips to where to start when looking to edit? because when I try it doesn't look so good like trying brighten up a face in the photo and make it that person look like a lamp post. I don't need that much to edit because i like the simplicity of doing some minor adjustment and like the raw files right out of the camera but I also like to edit things thus why I use Photoshop and would be nice to get better pictures with more flavor
Start off with getting the basics right. Exposure, black point and white point. Take a look at the image from there and see if you are happy with it.
I have a particular look to my edits, and it’s probably a bit more involved than a lot of photographers. So go with what looks right for you.
Practice, like everything else in photography, is everything and I spend many, many hours working things out, practising techniques, and looking at different ways of working.
all good BUT I would haved cropped out the sky top right which is distracting from the main subject
You can’t do that without affecting the position of the main subject within the frame, diminishing the impact of the arms coming in from the right, and causing the figures in the mural to be too close to the top of the frame. 🙂
Do you know how to edit like @alan_schaller ? lots of black blocks
I’m not sure what you are asking? Are you wanting to know if I can copy his editing style?
@@WalkLikeAlice no, I'm asking if you know how Alan edit his photos
@@arsulaksono881 I have no idea. His compositions are very strong and lend themselves to a high contrast edit, but other than that, I wouldn’t know how he’s editing his work.