yet again im just amazed at your skill level if i was half as good as you with a soldering iron id be danger to my self and all my electronics in my house lol
The owner of this display should be watching and smiling, knowing the job is being done right, too bad not everyone puts so much effort into their work.
@@jeffescortlx gave it a shot but no dice. Starting to check all the resistors and diodes. Also noticing the chip above the 8 pin chip gets hot when I try to put power to it
Love the videos brother. I have a 2004 monte carlo have some issues with my cluster. My battery light comes on with the abs,brake and airbag light. Check my charging system everything is in tip top performance. Everything else in my car works fine. I was told my gauge cluster is going out. It had 260,000 miles on it would live to talk to you
Hi Jeff I have another one that’s kickin me good . This is 2.5vdc feed to the micro for turn on . 2.5vdc with inductor removed is good . There’s a bunch of filter caps around the processor reading shorted to ground . Caps removed and still reading short to ground . Have you ever seen this ? Possibly micro shorted?Thanks
Nice job. Question: It appears you connect an RCA connector (two wires) to supply data to the cluster. Is the data source something of your own design? Would clusters from different manufacturers all accept the same data? Thanks
Yes it's homemade. Since OBD2 is a standard, it will work with many clusters from around 1996 to around 2007. So I use the same signal for trailblazer, impala and others from around the same generation.
@@jeffescortlx How would you go about making something like that? I like tinkering with electrical systems on these trucks and would be neat to figure out how the serial data side works.
@@jeffescortlx I would love to see a video on it... I don't do repairs like you do for a living, but I have had my fair share of repairs on clusters for the family over the years and never have had a way my self to test the board without hooking it upto the vehicle to see if things went right.
Hi there Jeff, Nice work you've done right there! I landed on your video as it turned up on a "damaged pcb" search I did and I liked what I saw. What is that solution you add after you finished soldering and wipe the joint with a toothbrush? Thank you for posting this kind of videos. Rafael
Stupid question ...Because i done a stupid thing 2005 Chevy Blazer cluster I removed the factory cluster lights for LED blue lights They do work And around the same time i replaced by stock radio with a aftermarket I been having a parastic draw of 0.50 on RDO/Batt 19 The Heat/AC is manual The dash does not have that square security message And the two large screens side by side equal size RPM/Speed .........Can this cause a draw when parked and off?
@@jeffescortlx No both times (radio in and out ) i tested with a meter on 10amp And set to mili And i waited 20 mins for the truck to settle down power wise I would get 0.50 to 0.52 Pull the fuse And 0.08 to 0.10 My head is spinning with the ideas of maybe a relay Or HVAC. I have not blown any fuses "yet" I even tried with another radio same stuff ..Maybe some how i crossed wires with the pin connectors GM to Radio harness ..I might be down to licking power and grounds Thanks for the quick reply!
Sounded like it was a mishap during removal from the dashboard. Probably the connector clip letting loose and cluster banging on the inside top of the dashboard.
They are not that tough at that point in the vehicles life. UV rays kill everything and make them super fragile. Broken lenses are really common on the 03/04 models. I have a wall full of broken lenses that regularly gets tossed in the dumpster. I always stock new lens assemblies since its so common for those lenses to break.
@@jeffescortlx I don't think lens thickness plays a role here. I think Its the fact 03-06 models have so many problems that people beat on the dashes out of frustration. Especially on the 03/04 models with the intermittent power problem. Any time someone comes in with a broken lens I can almost guarantee its on an 03/04.
Hi Jeff I had this same board arrive today. It’s a strange issue . None of the right side gauges work . So it’s missing the class 2 data somewhere. I replaced the 8 pin ic I believe it’s (56585 part number) and then 28 pin stepper motor chip . No luck . Trans temp not working. Speedo , Tach , and displays work fine. Have you ever seen this issue ? Hope all is well.
Jeff your the man . It was missing /broke off the board that blue inductor next to the connector. I do a lot of 04-09 Toyota Prius combination meters. If you ever need my help please let me know. Thanks -Mark
Hi Jeff, I have a very similar problem my display is intermittent. Same cluster it is in a 07 sierra classic 2500hd diesel. Anything I can look for at home or if you have a website I can reach out to you. Thanks
Hi, i have a yukon 2005 6.0l and i've a problem with my cluster, a battery and airbag lights on, engine run good... i've do a diagnostic and is the P0650... no contact on the braun/white wire on cluster, all fuse ok.. i'm lost ... can you help me 🙏? Thanks
Hate chasing a problem on something someone butchered after it last worked. How much would a new lens have cost? Seems a shame to return the broken one.
Are these cluster issues primarily associated with GM, or is GM more your specialty? I don't hear of these issues with Dodge or Ford, but I'm also not in this line of work so I may not see the bigger picture.
Dodge and ford clusters do have issues, just not at the mass rate of the 03-06 GM's. This generation was the perfect storm of failing stepper motors, fracturing SMD solder joints and small back lighting non-serviceable bulbs that typically start to burn out by 100k miles.
@@jeffescortlx Have you ever considered making "repair kits" that contain all the motors and LED's to repair clusters? Lot of people out there that are handy doing these repairs but have no real source for bulbs or 12v LEDs aside from what little Amazon or similar sells.
@@ChucksBasix the market is already flooded with repair kits. Competition is tight, not much meat on the bones after PayPal fees, website fees (eBay or Amazon fees), shipping cost (free shipping isn't free) income tax and state sales tax.
That regulator would have produced a low output because the feedback sample voltage was too high, the output would be lowered untill it compared with the reference voltage in the chip. Dam i did say that in a long winded way lol. Your loverly cat is so forgiving, or is it just daft in the head :-D
Yes it's the internal reference voltage, typically 1.250V for a lot of variable regulators. The grounded resistor has 1.25V Ref across it, and the top resistor has (Output minus 1.25V Ref). Same idea as the good old Lm317 3 pin regulator :-D
Your welcome :-D You explain what you are doing and typical problems, i appreciate that you don't mind people learning from you. Ill never repair a dashboard, but it's always interesting to see :-D.
It looked really bad but that's where knowledge of what your doing comes in and you sure have that . Great fix 👍
Jeff you amaze me in every video sir! Very nice as always my friend! James
I finally bought a solder sucker like yours. This changes everything.
Yes, electric desoldering pumps are a huge advantage!
yet again im just amazed at your skill level if i was half as good as you with a soldering iron id be danger to my self and all my electronics in my house lol
The owner of this display should be watching and smiling, knowing the job is being done right, too bad not everyone puts so much effort into their work.
I admire your skill, it must be a good feeling to be a true professional. I know a little about a lot of things and sometimes it leads to trouble.
It's his speech and skills ..I keep coming back..
thank you for this. Working on a 05 cluster and my issue is somewhere in the 12v to 5v chip.
Reflow the two small blue resistors next to the 8 pin chip.
@@jeffescortlx gave it a shot but no dice. Starting to check all the resistors and diodes. Also noticing the chip above the 8 pin chip gets hot when I try to put power to it
@@autumnjeserich2689 sounds like it has a short somewhere.
Love the videos brother. I have a 2004 monte carlo have some issues with my cluster. My battery light comes on with the abs,brake and airbag light. Check my charging system everything is in tip top performance. Everything else in my car works fine. I was told my gauge cluster is going out. It had 260,000 miles on it would live to talk to you
I enjoy your videos. Your cat is pretty cool too.
Hi Jeff I have another one that’s kickin me good . This is 2.5vdc feed to the micro for turn on . 2.5vdc with inductor removed is good .
There’s a bunch of filter caps around the processor reading shorted to ground . Caps removed and still reading short to ground .
Have you ever seen this ?
Possibly micro shorted?Thanks
Yes, sounds like a bad microprocessor.
The floating volage would be the caps and other inductors charging and discharging without a full circuit Jeff.
The regulators are linear, no inductors in that circuit.
Jeff can you provide the pinout in the 24 pin plug. Also can you provide the information to build your classll box for check the gauges.
Nice job.
Question: It appears you connect an RCA connector (two wires) to supply data to the cluster. Is the data source something of your own design? Would clusters from different manufacturers all accept the same data?
Thanks
Yes it's homemade. Since OBD2 is a standard, it will work with many clusters from around 1996 to around 2007. So I use the same signal for trailblazer, impala and others from around the same generation.
@@jeffescortlx How would you go about making something like that? I like tinkering with electrical systems on these trucks and would be neat to figure out how the serial data side works.
@@jamesb1221222 it's a little complicated to answer in a comment post. But someday I'll make a video on it, it gets asked about a lot.
@@jeffescortlx I would love to see a video on it... I don't do repairs like you do for a living, but I have had my fair share of repairs on clusters for the family over the years and never have had a way my self to test the board without hooking it upto the vehicle to see if things went right.
Hi there Jeff,
Nice work you've done right there!
I landed on your video as it turned up on a "damaged pcb" search I did and I liked what I saw.
What is that solution you add after you finished soldering and wipe the joint with a toothbrush?
Thank you for posting this kind of videos.
Rafael
It's running alcohol.
Stupid question ...Because i done a stupid thing 2005 Chevy Blazer cluster I removed the factory cluster lights for LED blue lights They do work And around the same time i replaced by stock radio with a aftermarket I been having a parastic draw of 0.50 on RDO/Batt 19 The Heat/AC is manual The dash does not have that square security message And the two large screens side by side equal size RPM/Speed .........Can this cause a draw when parked and off?
Does the draw go away when you unplug the new radio?
@@jeffescortlx No both times (radio in and out )
i tested with a meter on 10amp And set to mili And i waited 20 mins for the truck to settle down power wise I would get 0.50 to 0.52 Pull the fuse And 0.08 to 0.10 My head is spinning with the ideas of maybe a relay Or HVAC. I have not blown any fuses "yet" I even tried with another radio same stuff ..Maybe some how i crossed wires with the pin connectors GM to Radio harness ..I might be down to licking power and grounds Thanks for the quick reply!
@jeffescortlx Great repair video. Do you have a video on how to make the harness to test the clusters?
Sorry I don't at this time.
Good detective skills!! :) Great job!
Thanks!
Great repair, shame about that busted lens though. Those lenses are pretty tough, someone's obviously gone "full gorilla" on the poor thing.
Sounded like it was a mishap during removal from the dashboard. Probably the connector clip letting loose and cluster banging on the inside top of the dashboard.
They are not that tough at that point in the vehicles life. UV rays kill everything and make them super fragile. Broken lenses are really common on the 03/04 models. I have a wall full of broken lenses that regularly gets tossed in the dumpster. I always stock new lens assemblies since its so common for those lenses to break.
@@mike7958 the 03+ are pretty thin so that doesn't help. The Buick century/regal, now that's a tough lens.
@@jeffescortlx I don't think lens thickness plays a role here. I think Its the fact 03-06 models have so many problems that people beat on the dashes out of frustration. Especially on the 03/04 models with the intermittent power problem. Any time someone comes in with a broken lens I can almost guarantee its on an 03/04.
@@mike7958 I hear the same story too often "if I hit the cluster is would work for a awhile".
I have a 2002 Ford f250 cluster don't work at all only the turning signal
Hi Jeff I had this same board arrive today. It’s a strange issue . None of the right side gauges work . So it’s missing the class 2 data somewhere.
I replaced the 8 pin ic I believe it’s (56585 part number) and then 28 pin stepper motor chip . No luck . Trans temp not working. Speedo , Tach , and displays work fine. Have you ever seen this issue ? Hope all is well.
Follow the signal path from the connector to the little blue inductor to the right of the plug down to the 56585. I assume you see 12v at the 56585?
Jeff your the man . It was missing /broke off the board that blue inductor next to the connector. I do a lot of 04-09 Toyota Prius combination meters. If you ever need my help please let me know. Thanks -Mark
Would the u16 chip cause the this same issue if damaged?
At the end it looked to me the left turn indicator was winking off now and then?
See Dave Brown's comment below.
Hi Jeff,
I have a very similar problem my display is intermittent.
Same cluster it is in a 07 sierra classic 2500hd diesel.
Anything I can look for at home or if you have a website I can reach out to you.
Thanks
You have fractured solder joints.
I can be reached here:
ua-cam.com/video/T_2WnJMsZaU/v-deo.html
@@jeffescortlx just wanted to thank you I found the fractured solder joint.
Works great now.
GREAT JOB!!!!!
Hi, i have a yukon 2005 6.0l and i've a problem with my cluster, a battery and airbag lights on, engine run good... i've do a diagnostic and is the P0650... no contact on the braun/white wire on cluster, all fuse ok.. i'm lost ... can you help me 🙏?
Thanks
Does the check engine light work?
@@jeffescortlx thanks for your reactivity 😉 , i'm at work, i can see it tomorrow please ? I return to you after confirm the information
Do you have a new memory chip for 2005 Silverado HD? I like to buy one my chip is bad.
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Yes follow this link. Me or one of the other techs in the link should be able to help you. ua-cam.com/video/T_2WnJMsZaU/v-deo.html
Hate chasing a problem on something someone butchered after it last worked. How much would a new lens have cost? Seems a shame to return the broken one.
Replacement lens typically runs around $30-40 for a Chevy version.
I have a cluster I want to you to fix only the speedometer and rpms work , but the stepper motors are good
Ok. My contact information is listed under my channel "about" tab. If you can't find it there I have a video named "how to contact for repair".
Did the mileage change? I thought it was higher first time it booted with power applied
First power up was 223055 miles.
Last power up was 223056.
Added one mile from MPH testing.
14:42 trip A. 216,443
Jef what is that liquid you use to clean solder joints
Rubbing alcohol.
Are these cluster issues primarily associated with GM, or is GM more your specialty? I don't hear of these issues with Dodge or Ford, but I'm also not in this line of work so I may not see the bigger picture.
Dodge and ford clusters do have issues, just not at the mass rate of the 03-06 GM's. This generation was the perfect storm of failing stepper motors, fracturing SMD solder joints and small back lighting non-serviceable bulbs that typically start to burn out by 100k miles.
@@jeffescortlx Gotcha. Thanks for the info. Always like getting the picture from the guys and gals doing the work. Keep up the good work!
Whats the parts number for the LEDs you use. I'd like to redo my interior
Well for surface mount 3528 work for most. My 3mm and 5mm don't go by part number, I order direct from the manufacturer by description.
@@jeffescortlx ok thanks for the info man
@@jeffescortlx Have you ever considered making "repair kits" that contain all the motors and LED's to repair clusters? Lot of people out there that are handy doing these repairs but have no real source for bulbs or 12v LEDs aside from what little Amazon or similar sells.
@@ChucksBasix the market is already flooded with repair kits. Competition is tight, not much meat on the bones after PayPal fees, website fees (eBay or Amazon fees), shipping cost (free shipping isn't free) income tax and state sales tax.
What are you using to remove the needles
US Speedo needle removal tool.
What is the average repair price on a GM truck cluster ?
$130 for a full rebuild
You shoulda put the cat in with the cluster, then he could let you know when it's cold enough!
I need your information so I can seen u mys
Contact information can be found here. ua-cam.com/video/T_2WnJMsZaU/v-deo.html
Wow that paper was an attention getter....
That regulator would have produced a low output because the feedback sample voltage was too high, the output would be lowered untill it compared with the reference voltage in the chip.
Dam i did say that in a long winded way lol.
Your loverly cat is so forgiving, or is it just daft in the head :-D
I didn't look closely, but maybe 1.2v is the minimum output setting?
Yes it's the internal reference voltage, typically 1.250V for a lot of variable regulators.
The grounded resistor has 1.25V Ref across it, and the top resistor has (Output minus 1.25V Ref).
Same idea as the good old Lm317 3 pin regulator :-D
@@zx8401ztv that makes sense. Great information!
Your welcome :-D
You explain what you are doing and typical problems, i appreciate that you don't mind people learning from you.
Ill never repair a dashboard, but it's always interesting to see :-D.
@@zx8401ztv I would certainly try it, knowing that if I bunged it up too bad, I could always send it to Jeff with a healthy "idiot tax". lol
Lh turnsignal flashed off and on at the end of video.
15:17
@@jeffescortlx sorry I missed that. I really enjoy your work. Thanks for the vids.
@@davebrown5395 Thanks for watching!