unlikely... 7950x/x3d and 7800x3d are better then 13/14th gen intel easily. And with 8950x coming in Q1 2024, i find it highly unlikely that 15th gen will beat it in Q4 2024 - Q1/Q2 2025. Also, an entire year will basically be free for AMD..... AMD easily dominates the CPU market, while nvidia dominates GPU
@@prospect2664 I agree with you. It'll be nothing short of a miracle if Intel can deliver something to compete with the next generation of Ryzen in 2024.
@@theivadim getting a pc next year, hopefully 8950x is here in my backwater country :) And finally getting the 4080 super or 4090 will be reasonable :)
I think Zen 7 (Ryzen 10,000 or whatever they'll call it) will be the CPUs where AMD will move onto AM6 and DDR6 given how DDR6 is expected to launch in 2026.
2026 will be when the standard is finalized. Usually it takes at least a year or two more for it to be actually used. So I think we'll stay on DDR5 until at least 2027; with a possible new socket for Zen 6 and 7 in between. AM 5.5 or whatever.
I am thinking my next upgrade will be in the 9000 series or 10000 series amd cpu. so late 2025 or early 2026 5-6 years between builds should be good enough time to see a good difference in performance without wasting money on small incremental upgrades.
It's not difficult to see where the idea that zen6 might have CPU chiplets on top of the IO die comes from. It is exactly what they do in the recently launched MI300A APU and MI300X GPU.
Very exciting to see the advancements that AMD is making in its design. It will be a shame if Zen 6 isn't supported on socket AM5, however, they may be able to release the Zen 6 architecture in 2 phases, like a Zen 6 on AM5 and Zen 6+ with all the bells and whistles on AM6.. The reason for this is that the camp of customers who bought in to the long support promise of the AM5 socket can get their hands on the latest chips for gaming and for those that seek the ultimate 16c or 32c X3D variants of Zen 6 can upgrade their platform to AM6. That would be reasonable. It's all speculation of course.
I think it'll be all Zen 6 Ryzen models on AM5 or nothing. Either way, I'm excited to see if AMD will actually increase core count on the mainstream platform. It has been a while since the last increase.
Do you think AM5 will have a motherboard refresh from all other board manufacturers that will have wifi 7? Hoping to see asrock release a newer x670e taichi
Assuming next gen X3D chips will be 20% faster than the current ones. Intel needs to be 30% faster just to match the next gen X3D performance. Based on current meteor lake leaks it looks highly unlikely that intel will be providing users upto 30% performance increase in gaming with arrow lake.
Indeed, what we hear about Meteor Lake is concerning. I'm keeping a close eye on it. As for Arrow Lake: I think Intel plans to get most of their gains by manufacturing chips utilising a more advanced process. 3nm in 2024 vs AMD's 4nm. But even then the 8000X3D will most likely compete well if not exceptionally well.
@@theivadim Rumor from MLID is that rentable units will not be ready for Arrow Lake AND they are abandoning hyper-threading. This is going to be bad for Intel, unless they have a secret up their sleeve.
You can have 192GB on most AM5 motherboards today. And some even support 256GB. I expect to see all motherboards support 256GB at a certain point in the future once motherboard manufacturers update their software.
I was going to upgrade from a i9 10850k to a 7800x3d as im getting a 20% bottle neck with my 7900 xtx at 1440p, Should i just wait for a 8000 cpu? Any update when???
Honestly, the 7800X3D is so fast that I don't think you'll feel any need to upgrade any time soon if you choose it. Furthermore, the latest news is that the new AMD CPUs will come later that was initially leaked. Could be as late as Q3 or even Q4. So, I don't think it's worth the wait. Also, you'll be able to easily upgrade to an 8800X3D if that brings any crazy features or performance. And there is a chance that we'll see one more generation of CPUs for AM5 motherboards after that. So, even if you get the 7800X3D now you'll have great upgrade options available to you in the future.
Just wish there's a 15w nxtgen apu performing like 5800x3d and the igpu be like rx6600 Slap that in handhelds with fsr3+afmf Shud be decent gaming portable OTG Or just target 13100f perf for steamdeck2 if they stick with 800p screen
amd cpus seems to be really powerful for what they give I'm being intel user since my first gaming pc and even now but from what i saw in the current gen benchmarks the 7950x is one hell of a beast and also very good for gaming aside from the 7800x3d the 7950x is one hell of a beast in my opinion the perfect balance for having high performance at gaming while im sure it will also have very high performance in other stuff like production programming etc amd cpus seems to be very good they are not joke anymore i mean the ryzen 9 5900 and 5950x weren't bad too but the fact that 7950x draws a lot less power than 5950x while bringing very big boost in performance shows how the am5 platform have been improved since am4 im talking about zen 3 to zen 4 has been improving amd cpus im actually really impressed by this cpus being intel user since my first gaming pc i've seen that zen4 ryzen 7000 really is improving since the zen 3 ryzen 5000 since from what i heard using almost half the power for much more performance like 30% gaming thats very good and using much less power i heard half the power of zen 3 ryzen 9 5950x makes the ryzen 9 7950x one hell of a beast
Hi Bro, hope you are very good, well tell me bro should i spend 170$ on ryzen 7 7800x3d over ryzen 7600x or 290$ on rx 7900 xt over rx 7800 xt asrock phantom gaming please reply me bro, lot of live from India
@@theivadim Bro in India after taxes the price of Rx 7800 xt is 630$ and Rx 7900 xt is 980$. and the gaming difference is like 30-35fps, and the price of Ryzen 5 7600x is 240$ and Ryzen 7 7800x3d is 390$, and the gaming difference is like 20-25fps. if i am not correct then please do tell me the gaming difference. i only want to play 4k 60hz games. Please help ne out Buddy
I'm kinda tired of huge PC case builds and have started to like mini pcs and small mini itx builds so I'm looking forward to Ryzens new APUs along with the rumoured Pro versions. I recently purchased a Gigabyte B650I Aorus Ultra with the 3x M.2 slots -1*Gen 5 _ 2* Gen 4 but I really wanna build something that I can put in my backpack and take with me if I want.
My interests begin to shift towards compact and power-efficient hardware too. But why not choose a laptop in this case if you want to be able to carry your PC? Gives you a second screen as well when you are at your desk (if you already have a monitor). That is my setup right now and I'm enjoying it a lot.
amd 4 with 5800x 3d handles any card so I'll wait to AM6 to upgrade. Pc one of my hobbies and I don't mind spending but don't see the point moving to am5 for a little upgrade.
I hope that zen 5 will bring big jump in performance amd cpus really did become better the fact that its beating 2 cpu gens or equal to one of them like intel 11th and 12th gen shows that amd really is taking effort to make zen 4 an amazing cpus the fact that it beats or matching the power hungry the i9 12900k shows how good amd cpus compared to the 2 last gen of intel like the intel 11th and intel 12th gen shows how much amd improved their cpus the fact that it beats 2 gens of intel while using a lot less power and have similar or greater performance than intel 12th gen shows that amd is really the winner and no om not amd fanboy im just thats impressive to have more powerful chip that match or sometimes beat the other more power hungry cpus
Unfortunately, Intel appears to be stuck releasing +++ CPU generations again. 12th gen was the last good release. It's a shame. I really want to see proper competition from as many companies as possible.
I want AI performance, gaming performance is already more than adequate. That's probably not coming till the next DDR generation though, as AI performance is so memory bottlenecked.
AI on a processor? Do you mean you want to see an NPU integrated into the package? I thought that only makes sense for laptops as every little bit of power needs to be saved to improve battery life. But on desktop GPUs offer way more compute power for AI than an integrated NPU can ever achieve. Not worth it. Or am I missing something?
@@theivadim He doesn't know what he's talking about xD. We need more gaming power. CPUs still struggle in some moded games. I know that the optimization is the problem but more raw power from a CPU can solve a lot of things.
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@@theivadim TechLabUK and Mike's unboxing have done at least one video each on some of the AM5 platform stability issues. Seen the best gaming CPU 7800X3D in local CEX. Maybe it just doesn't work for some users with failure to boot, black screens, board and ram kits not playing nicely, loose unmounting of the CPU from the pins, when moving the finished pc build.
@@theivadimi' m very sure 17 years Intel + Asus never had a single issue. one time i try a 7900x and it was a nighmare, never again dude is an AMD system going into my case!
@@roythunderplump I know two people that had issues with RAM kits on AM5 platform, but the problem was because they bought RAM kits that weren't listed on the motherboard's memory compatibility list.
If amd is not adding more cores, they would lag behind intel so much. 8 cores is the minimum for new games and some like cyberpunk, staefield, etc. are starting to use more than 8 cores.
It'll be a while before games start utilising more than 8 cores properly. Even in the games you mentioned you can see diminishing returns after 8 cores. It's just not worth spending on. Better put that money towards a better monitor or graphics card, imho. Also, don't forget that Intel offers just 8 Performance cores. And the latest leaks suggest that the next generation of Intel CPUs will still have just 8 Performance cores.
@@theivadim yep and when you start to have a dual monitor setup your multi tasking while gaming will eat up some of the 8 cores. I mean the e cores is as fast as ryzen 3000 series cpus and is totally usable in games and muti tasking. I mean if your talking price, ryzen 7 and i7 seems to cost about the same with i7 having the edge with cheaper motherboards and ability to use cheap ddr4. I would definitely sacrifice a little fps for smoother gameplay and muti monitor setup with hitches.
Well this is totally disappointing. Only one more CPU upgrade for Zen 5, why even bother. Why even bother having gotten on this platform. What a rlp0ff.... maybe if Ryzen 9000 and 10,000 processors would of worked on it, it would of been worthwhile. I'm not even going to bother to go from an 7950x to an 8950x, because there is no compelling reason to do so...
AMD's game plan is literally just waiting for TSMC to make smaller process nodes, and then use those smaller nodes to squeeze in more transistors for a small IPC increase. Nothing new. Nothing innovative. They're still crippled by their chiplet design. Latency is still high because Infinity Fabric is still the bottleneck. Their X3D chip is good if the game has low to medium assets. But as soon as a game overloads the 3D cache with assets, and the cache is full, the CPU is forced to go through the IO die to reach into RAM, then performance dropped so hard. I had to return my 7800X3D because the 1% low was getting into the 90s fps whenever there were a lot of stuffs going on in the games I play, and started to look choppy on my 240hz.
This video is claiming that zen 6 will improve the infinity fabric. The reason for using chiplets is to lower prices and amd is certainly a good value compared to intel at the moment. Hitting 90fps 1% lows is a problem for only a few. For the rest the benefits of 3d v cache and the better value is a lot more important.
It's sad but I believe that amd's future is downhill because of their greed since this woman took over the company.AMD used to be the goto for poorer people but not anymore since their prices have become obscene and worth has dropped. I feel sorry for the people they had duped with their claims of so much better performance than Intel when it just isn't true anymore.
there are no amd iinovations, only faills, ram incompatibilities, error nobody knows why, and yet another generation of unstable platform, just like now. ask your question in 10 years
Your spelling and grammar is horrible, and you have no idea what your talking about. Innovations* fails*😂 I don’t even want to start with your grammar.
AMD is innovating but their msrp for CPUs and especially GPUs has gone through the roof. Lisa Su stated 3 years ago that she no longer wants AMD to be known as the cheap and cheerful company, but a high end competitor to blue and green. Her greed and price hikes is not sustainable. Consumers will ditch X86 and migrate to W12 and cheaper ARM based CPU's.
There are rumours that AMD is developing an ARM-based CPU🙂 I'm not advocating for higher prices, but at the same time I know that it is important for these businesses to have a good profit margin. Without it there is no sustainable cash flow to fund research and development of new and disruptive technologies. In my opinion, Ryzen 7000 CPUs are priced OK now (after they've received a discount). Some Ryzen 5000 are a bargain. But when it comes to GPUs, I don't like the way AMD is pegging its MSRPs to NVIDIA's. They are too high. But the market seems to be OK with it.🤷♂️
To be fair 7900XTX still competes directly with the 4080 while also being a lot cheaper, and the 7800X3D basically matches some of the best offerings from Intel for a lot cheaper as well. The 7950X is a better option overall for a similar price for workstation use when compared to intel flagship. You're paying more but you are also getting a lot better performance.
@@theivadim - I agree with you. CPU prices okay but gpu prices obscene. I'm a pharmacologist and there are many parallels between R&D in pharma and CPU/GPU R&D. People believe most profits are redirected back into R&D. Not true. Most of it goes to fat cat investors and huge salaries/bonuses for fat cat CEO, etc. I have heard about AMD/ARM hybrid CPU. In fact, that was the K12 architecture Jim Keller was designing when he was working on possible new architectures for Zen. The K12 was shelved due to lack of money for R&D and also because tech back then was not sufficiently advanced to accommodate this hybrid design. Lisa and Jim saw the value of this hybrid design so decided to save it for another day.
@@beachboy_boobybuilder the biggest concern with launching ARM on Windows is the lack of support from software developers. Even with Rosetta translation integration (which worked very well) it took a couple of years to get developers on board to support Apple Silicon on MacOS. I don't see Microsoft working on anything similar to Rosetta. It would be nice tho. Especially for battery life on laptops and handhelds.
@@theivadim - I read an article last week that W12 would be the software (OS) platform for hybrid and dedicated ARM CPUs. Will have to wait and see. But this is always the case, as hardware is pushing forward yet software is still lagging behind.
Smartphones advanced in last 10 years, but computer didn't. I'm using computers since Atari and C64. My 11 years old i7 can work on 4 Ghz same as your new processor. In 10 years there is only like 200 Mhz speed difference for much bigger price. I will keep my i7 for next 10 years and you find another victim.
Do you think Intel will keep up with AMD's innovations?
unlikely... 7950x/x3d and 7800x3d are better then 13/14th gen intel easily. And with 8950x coming in Q1 2024, i find it highly unlikely that 15th gen will beat it in Q4 2024 - Q1/Q2 2025. Also, an entire year will basically be free for AMD.....
AMD easily dominates the CPU market, while nvidia dominates GPU
@@prospect2664 I agree with you. It'll be nothing short of a miracle if Intel can deliver something to compete with the next generation of Ryzen in 2024.
@@theivadim getting a pc next year, hopefully 8950x is here in my backwater country :)
And finally getting the 4080 super or 4090 will be reasonable :)
@@prospect2664 fingers crossed!🤞🙂
i hope so , i avoid amd like the plague
I think Zen 7 (Ryzen 10,000 or whatever they'll call it) will be the CPUs where AMD will move onto AM6 and DDR6 given how DDR6 is expected to launch in 2026.
That makes sense👍
2026 will be when the standard is finalized. Usually it takes at least a year or two more for it to be actually used. So I think we'll stay on DDR5 until at least 2027; with a possible new socket for Zen 6 and 7 in between. AM 5.5 or whatever.
Still on ddr3 still owning warzone 🤷
It has been said, at least till 2025 on current socket.
@@paulreeves1787 and?
are there infos on an updated IO-die for zen5? say that 16tops xpu, av1 codec, ddr5 7200, 2 zen5c cores?
I am thinking my next upgrade will be in the 9000 series or 10000 series amd cpu. so late 2025 or early 2026 5-6 years between builds should be good enough time to see a good difference in performance without wasting money on small incremental upgrades.
i went from 6700k to 7950x3d
It's not difficult to see where the idea that zen6 might have CPU chiplets on top of the IO die comes from. It is exactly what they do in the recently launched MI300A APU and MI300X GPU.
Very exciting to see the advancements that AMD is making in its design. It will be a shame if Zen 6 isn't supported on socket AM5, however, they may be able to release the Zen 6 architecture in 2 phases, like a Zen 6 on AM5 and Zen 6+ with all the bells and whistles on AM6.. The reason for this is that the camp of customers who bought in to the long support promise of the AM5 socket can get their hands on the latest chips for gaming and for those that seek the ultimate 16c or 32c X3D variants of Zen 6 can upgrade their platform to AM6. That would be reasonable. It's all speculation of course.
I think it'll be all Zen 6 Ryzen models on AM5 or nothing. Either way, I'm excited to see if AMD will actually increase core count on the mainstream platform. It has been a while since the last increase.
7800X3D should hold me over for a While, at least I hope 🤞
It will. For sure. A long while.🙂
Do you think AM5 will have a motherboard refresh from all other board manufacturers that will have wifi 7?
Hoping to see asrock release a newer x670e taichi
Oh yes. 700-series motherboards are coming alongside the next generation of processors. WiFi 7 will be there.
@@theivadim They will finalize the wifi 7 standard next year supposedly, a lot of products are being released without the standard being finished.
what good will it be if you don't have a wifi 7 router. if you have one then nice.
Assuming next gen X3D chips will be 20% faster than the current ones. Intel needs to be 30% faster just to match the next gen X3D performance.
Based on current meteor lake leaks it looks highly unlikely that intel will be providing users upto 30% performance increase in gaming with arrow lake.
Indeed, what we hear about Meteor Lake is concerning. I'm keeping a close eye on it.
As for Arrow Lake: I think Intel plans to get most of their gains by manufacturing chips utilising a more advanced process. 3nm in 2024 vs AMD's 4nm. But even then the 8000X3D will most likely compete well if not exceptionally well.
@@theivadim
Rumor from MLID is that rentable units will not be ready for Arrow Lake AND they are abandoning hyper-threading. This is going to be bad for Intel, unless they have a secret up their sleeve.
thanks for summarizing all the rumors to make it easier to catch up
What about DDR5 ram compatibility and new 8xxx CPU series, it will be possible to built PC with 128 GB of memory now?
You can have 192GB on most AM5 motherboards today. And some even support 256GB. I expect to see all motherboards support 256GB at a certain point in the future once motherboard manufacturers update their software.
we now know they will be the ryzen 9000 most likely since they already launched the 8000 which were all the APUs
I was going to upgrade from a i9 10850k to a 7800x3d as im getting a 20% bottle neck with my 7900 xtx at 1440p,
Should i just wait for a 8000 cpu? Any update when???
Honestly, the 7800X3D is so fast that I don't think you'll feel any need to upgrade any time soon if you choose it. Furthermore, the latest news is that the new AMD CPUs will come later that was initially leaked. Could be as late as Q3 or even Q4. So, I don't think it's worth the wait. Also, you'll be able to easily upgrade to an 8800X3D if that brings any crazy features or performance. And there is a chance that we'll see one more generation of CPUs for AM5 motherboards after that. So, even if you get the 7800X3D now you'll have great upgrade options available to you in the future.
@theivadim hey,
That's great information thanks,
So i can upgrade with the same mobo at somepoint anyway,
Thanks
Exactly. You're very welcome.🤝🙂
Sweet should be able to pick up the best ryzen 5 cheap late next year
Just wish there's a 15w nxtgen apu performing like 5800x3d and the igpu be like rx6600
Slap that in handhelds with fsr3+afmf
Shud be decent gaming portable OTG
Or just target 13100f perf for steamdeck2 if they stick with 800p screen
That'd be great. However, I don't think we'll see that at 15W for a few generations at least.
Ryzen '8000' for G series. Maybe 9000 series or 9000x3d q4 2024 or q1 2025. And Ryzen '10000' for G series and etc.
I thought the Ryzen 8000 series was going Zen 4+ as their new APU and 9000 with be base of Zen 5 ?
8000-series desktop CPUs are definitely Zen 5. AMD makes its naming confusing.🙂
You’re right the 8000 series are desktop apu zen 5 will be 9000 series the video is misinformed
Zen6 will be waiting.
In my opinion, new upcoming chips do not have anything worth to wait for. Building now looks like the perfekt time
amd cpus seems to be really powerful for what they give I'm being intel user since my first gaming pc and even now but from what i saw in the current gen benchmarks the 7950x is one hell of a beast and also very good for gaming aside from the 7800x3d the 7950x is one hell of a beast in my opinion the perfect balance for having high performance at gaming while im sure it will also have very high performance in other stuff like production programming etc amd cpus seems to be very good they are not joke anymore i mean the ryzen 9 5900 and 5950x weren't bad too but the fact that 7950x draws a lot less power than 5950x while bringing very big boost in performance shows how the am5 platform have been improved since am4 im talking about zen 3 to zen 4 has been improving amd cpus im actually really impressed by this cpus being intel user since my first gaming pc i've seen that zen4 ryzen 7000 really is improving since the zen 3 ryzen 5000 since from what i heard using almost half the power for much more performance like 30% gaming thats very good and using much less power i heard half the power of zen 3 ryzen 9 5950x makes the ryzen 9 7950x one hell of a beast
Bro.
Please.
Use some punctuation. Just some very basic punctuation.
@@kaystephan2610 thank you my English is not great don't tell me how to write
Hi Bro, hope you are very good, well tell me bro should i spend 170$ on ryzen 7 7800x3d over ryzen 7600x or 290$ on rx 7900 xt over rx 7800 xt asrock phantom gaming please reply me bro, lot of live from India
I'd get the better graphics card. More FPS in games or you can use higher settings. I can't think of any downsides of going with 7600X in this case.
@@theivadim Bro in India after taxes the price of Rx 7800 xt is 630$ and Rx 7900 xt is 980$. and the gaming difference is like 30-35fps, and the price of Ryzen 5 7600x is 240$ and Ryzen 7 7800x3d is 390$, and the gaming difference is like 20-25fps. if i am not correct then please do tell me the gaming difference. i only want to play 4k 60hz games. Please help ne out Buddy
I'm kinda tired of huge PC case builds and have started to like mini pcs and small mini itx builds so I'm looking forward to Ryzens new APUs along with the rumoured Pro versions. I recently purchased a Gigabyte B650I Aorus Ultra with the 3x M.2 slots -1*Gen 5 _ 2* Gen 4 but I really wanna build something that I can put in my backpack and take with me if I want.
My interests begin to shift towards compact and power-efficient hardware too. But why not choose a laptop in this case if you want to be able to carry your PC? Gives you a second screen as well when you are at your desk (if you already have a monitor). That is my setup right now and I'm enjoying it a lot.
The new AMD Phoenix apu's will be out this year. I would recommend putting one of those in it
Looking forward to the lower latency zen 6. That’s the only thing Intel has over Ryzen.
Like the 5800x3d vs The r7 7700, the 7800x3d gaming performance is so good I wonder if zen 5 can beat it without 3D cache.
Zen 5 will beat it for sure. I think Ryzen 5 8600X should be able to match 7800X3D performance.
I doubt an 8600X will bet the 7800X3D. It will probably be within 5% or so.
@@erickelly4107
Why do you doubt it? AMD already did it once with the 7600x vs 5800x3d...
amd 4 with 5800x 3d handles any card so I'll wait to AM6 to upgrade. Pc one of my hobbies and I don't mind spending but don't see the point moving to am5 for a little upgrade.
I have a feeling Zen 6 will be on AM6
I think you got it wrong. I believe Ryzen 8000 will be Zen 4 APU's (G) and Zen 5 mobile. Ryzen 9000 will be Zen 5 mid 2024.
I see how it can get confusing with all the new products AMD is releasing. But no, I'm sure of what I'm saying.
I hope that zen 5 will bring big jump in performance amd cpus really did become better the fact that its beating 2 cpu gens or equal to one of them like intel 11th and 12th gen shows that amd really is taking effort to make zen 4 an amazing cpus the fact that it beats or matching the power hungry the i9 12900k shows how good amd cpus compared to the 2 last gen of intel like the intel 11th and intel 12th gen shows how much amd improved their cpus the fact that it beats 2 gens of intel while using a lot less power and have similar or greater performance than intel 12th gen shows that amd is really the winner and no om not amd fanboy im just thats impressive to have more powerful chip that match or sometimes beat the other more power hungry cpus
Unfortunately, Intel appears to be stuck releasing +++ CPU generations again. 12th gen was the last good release. It's a shame. I really want to see proper competition from as many companies as possible.
@@theivadim great just what we need 😐
I'll wait for ryzen 9000 b4 I upgrade
I want AI performance, gaming performance is already more than adequate. That's probably not coming till the next DDR generation though, as AI performance is so memory bottlenecked.
AI on a processor? Do you mean you want to see an NPU integrated into the package? I thought that only makes sense for laptops as every little bit of power needs to be saved to improve battery life. But on desktop GPUs offer way more compute power for AI than an integrated NPU can ever achieve. Not worth it. Or am I missing something?
@@theivadim He doesn't know what he's talking about xD. We need more gaming power. CPUs still struggle in some moded games. I know that the optimization is the problem but more raw power from a CPU can solve a lot of things.
If ur a dev that makes sense
I only use AI to change my GF body😂
Decent phone can do it fast
Gaming performance will be adequate when a CPU and GPU can run all games @ 240fps during 1% lows minimum
I am going to buy another ryzen chip on 3nm nodr
Zen 5 will not get name of ryzen 8000, ZEN5 will be called ryzen 9000s
probably wont see 20% increase but we will most likely see much higher temps
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AMD should focus on productivity and creation.
Yea 20 cores 20 threads and a 28 cores 56 threads
@@UTFapollomarine7409 - you want the epyc series for that not ryzen.
same core count meh i'll pass.
Intel just works, i dont need a gimmicki Ryzen Chip wich i have to troubleshoot a year before i even can use them
Are you sure that it's not the other way around nowadays?🙂
@@theivadim TechLabUK and Mike's unboxing have done at least one video each on some of the AM5 platform stability issues. Seen the best gaming CPU 7800X3D in local CEX. Maybe it just doesn't work for some users with failure to boot, black screens, board and ram kits not playing nicely, loose unmounting of the CPU from the pins, when moving the finished pc build.
@@theivadimi' m very sure 17 years Intel + Asus never had a single issue. one time i try a 7900x and it was a nighmare, never again dude is an AMD system going into my case!
@@roythunderplump I know two people that had issues with RAM kits on AM5 platform, but the problem was because they bought RAM kits that weren't listed on the motherboard's memory compatibility list.
No increase in core counts no thanks AMD.
Last 6 years they constantly milk us.
If amd is not adding more cores, they would lag behind intel so much. 8 cores is the minimum for new games and some like cyberpunk, staefield, etc. are starting to use more than 8 cores.
It'll be a while before games start utilising more than 8 cores properly. Even in the games you mentioned you can see diminishing returns after 8 cores. It's just not worth spending on. Better put that money towards a better monitor or graphics card, imho.
Also, don't forget that Intel offers just 8 Performance cores. And the latest leaks suggest that the next generation of Intel CPUs will still have just 8 Performance cores.
Hopefully zen 5 will be the last gen R5 with 6 cores
@@theivadim yep and when you start to have a dual monitor setup your multi tasking while gaming will eat up some of the 8 cores. I mean the e cores is as fast as ryzen 3000 series cpus and is totally usable in games and muti tasking.
I mean if your talking price, ryzen 7 and i7 seems to cost about the same with i7 having the edge with cheaper motherboards and ability to use cheap ddr4. I would definitely sacrifice a little fps for smoother gameplay and muti monitor setup with hitches.
Well this is totally disappointing.
Only one more CPU upgrade for Zen 5, why even bother. Why even bother having gotten on this platform.
What a rlp0ff.... maybe if Ryzen 9000 and 10,000 processors would of worked on it, it would of been worthwhile.
I'm not even going to bother to go from an 7950x to an 8950x, because there is no compelling reason to do so...
you dont need more than a 13600K wich destoys 7800x3d in other tasks.
AMD's game plan is literally just waiting for TSMC to make smaller process nodes, and then use those smaller nodes to squeeze in more transistors for a small IPC increase. Nothing new. Nothing innovative. They're still crippled by their chiplet design. Latency is still high because Infinity Fabric is still the bottleneck. Their X3D chip is good if the game has low to medium assets. But as soon as a game overloads the 3D cache with assets, and the cache is full, the CPU is forced to go through the IO die to reach into RAM, then performance dropped so hard. I had to return my 7800X3D because the 1% low was getting into the 90s fps whenever there were a lot of stuffs going on in the games I play, and started to look choppy on my 240hz.
This video is claiming that zen 6 will improve the infinity fabric. The reason for using chiplets is to lower prices and amd is certainly a good value compared to intel at the moment. Hitting 90fps 1% lows is a problem for only a few. For the rest the benefits of 3d v cache and the better value is a lot more important.
It's sad but I believe that amd's future is downhill because of their greed since this woman took over the company.AMD used to be the goto for poorer people but not anymore since their prices have become obscene and worth has dropped. I feel sorry for the people they had duped with their claims of so much better performance than Intel when it just isn't true anymore.
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Bro, show me some data to back that up. Intel products sucks ass and that is not AMD's fault🤣🤣🤣🤣
Shittel is far, far worse especially their rip off prices.
@@Manicmick3069Typical amd fanboy
there are no amd iinovations, only faills, ram incompatibilities, error nobody knows why, and yet another generation of unstable platform, just like now. ask your question in 10 years
Your spelling and grammar is horrible, and you have no idea what your talking about. Innovations* fails*😂 I don’t even want to start with your grammar.
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AMD is innovating but their msrp for CPUs and especially GPUs has gone through the roof. Lisa Su stated 3 years ago that she no longer wants AMD to be known as the cheap and cheerful company, but a high end competitor to blue and green. Her greed and price hikes is not sustainable. Consumers will ditch X86 and migrate to W12 and cheaper ARM based CPU's.
There are rumours that AMD is developing an ARM-based CPU🙂 I'm not advocating for higher prices, but at the same time I know that it is important for these businesses to have a good profit margin. Without it there is no sustainable cash flow to fund research and development of new and disruptive technologies. In my opinion, Ryzen 7000 CPUs are priced OK now (after they've received a discount). Some Ryzen 5000 are a bargain. But when it comes to GPUs, I don't like the way AMD is pegging its MSRPs to NVIDIA's. They are too high. But the market seems to be OK with it.🤷♂️
To be fair 7900XTX still competes directly with the 4080 while also being a lot cheaper, and the 7800X3D basically matches some of the best offerings from Intel for a lot cheaper as well. The 7950X is a better option overall for a similar price for workstation use when compared to intel flagship. You're paying more but you are also getting a lot better performance.
@@theivadim - I agree with you. CPU prices okay but gpu prices obscene. I'm a pharmacologist and there are many parallels between R&D in pharma and CPU/GPU R&D. People believe most profits are redirected back into R&D. Not true. Most of it goes to fat cat investors and huge salaries/bonuses for fat cat CEO, etc.
I have heard about AMD/ARM hybrid CPU. In fact, that was the K12 architecture Jim Keller was designing when he was working on possible new architectures for Zen. The K12 was shelved due to lack of money for R&D and also because tech back then was not sufficiently advanced to accommodate this hybrid design. Lisa and Jim saw the value of this hybrid design so decided to save it for another day.
@@beachboy_boobybuilder the biggest concern with launching ARM on Windows is the lack of support from software developers. Even with Rosetta translation integration (which worked very well) it took a couple of years to get developers on board to support Apple Silicon on MacOS. I don't see Microsoft working on anything similar to Rosetta. It would be nice tho. Especially for battery life on laptops and handhelds.
@@theivadim - I read an article last week that W12 would be the software (OS) platform for hybrid and dedicated ARM CPUs. Will have to wait and see. But this is always the case, as hardware is pushing forward yet software is still lagging behind.
Smartphones advanced in last 10 years, but computer didn't. I'm using computers since Atari and C64. My 11 years old i7 can work on 4 Ghz same as your new processor. In 10 years there is only like 200 Mhz speed difference for much bigger price. I will keep my i7 for next 10 years and you find another victim.