Thanks again for uploading this. While I wait for your uploads I've jumed ahead to April of 1991! I'm dying to find out how they go there and am thankful for these videos.
Johnny Dee was a kind of important character considering he was only on the show for a short period of time in 1990. He was mentioned a lot throughout the years and was of course the motivation for most of Carlo's plots. The actor playing him is actually pretty decent. He had a solid career before and after OLTL.
@BMac. When Carlo returned in 1996 he was so obsessed w/ Nikki killing Johnny which really was self defense of another person. Johnny punched tinaa lights out & was literally gonna carry her unconsciouss body to God knows where. Nikki during that whole ordeal was awesome b/c she came out to protect tina. Sadly they turned Nikki into this homicidal maniac who despised vikis family loved ones & husband's. Anyway Carlo for most of 96 wanted viki to kill her son as an eye for an eye using that shrink that Carlo owned when he payed all his gambling debts off. I also remember in 95 way Todd & viki became even closer than she felt to her 3 living kids at the time. Telling him at the lodge that she loved him & he was " closer to my heart than my own children " my mouth hot the floor. Anyway in 95 t&b were working on a story about viki once all her alters csne out. So Blair brought up how viki as Nikki killed csrlo" s son Johnny dee. She told him this as he was writing a full article about the destruction she caused as Nikki Smith. In 95 at that point Todd didn't wrsw about all vikis alters which weds 7 including herself. Then in 98 when Dorian was shot & in a coma Dorian went to hell * which is pretty sick when she had noy doing nothing wrong. Anywa eleven rbfdd
I just put it together: the actress playing Charlotte Hessner was in the Charlie’s Angels ‘Teen Angels’ episode 18 season 3. I knew that was the same voice!
@Paul Martin even though as a kid I loved max & Gabrielle & Jake & megan I only started watching oltl religiously when max was starting his seduction. Campaign to get the truth out of her. I never saw max & Megan's story from the start til many years later & I never saw Micheal & Gabrielle til this wonderful channel showed them from their start as lovers to partners in crime w/ the whole start of eterna & getting that Lysander guy to hypnotize viki into remembering the eterna entrance. Anyway gabs was def falling for Micheal all those months max was off the show living in Texas. I actually felt for Gabrielle that she thought she & al finally moved on from max & was talking to the still baby al about how she hoped Micheal would give him a baby brother or sister. When Alicia turned up & announced she was pregnant I felt bad for Gabrielle. Micheal Alicia & Gabrielle became very close friends fast & it was still obvious Micheal & Gabrielle cared about eachother very much. I'll never forget when al came to take al away Micheal went there to try & defuse this very hostile situation. Then he stayed to comfort Gabrielle as a good friend to calm her down. Then he went to max to appeal to him to reconsider keeping al away from her. The wrters really had her doing such stupid unnessary things when if she just kept calm she easily would have had full custosy or at least joint custody. Max was barely apart of that boys life for 2 years. John told him it was an uphill battle given max never legally est any custodial rights to al. Gabrielles lawyer did a great job hammering max about his comings & goings in als life & how he had pretty much abandoned his son for several months when he moved to Texas. He said something like " theirs the door Mr holden fot when u walk out on your son again !!" All max had was John bringing in all the babysitters Gabrielle left al with. Since when does a single working mom having babysitters constitue bring unfit. But then Gabrielle messed up badly by unnessarilly bribing a health code inspector to shut Max's bar down & the building where he hoped for al to live. If she didn't pull stupid stunts like that she never would have lost al.
They totally messed it up with having Max not caring when Megan was cleared of the murder charges or Megan not being there when Max revealed himself. It would have been nice if Max went to go see Megan as Matt when was cleared under the reporter guise and said off the record I always thought you were not guilty.
I can't believe that I'm going to agree with Tina on something but I am. She always is having to change for Cord and that would be hard to do all of the time. I get what she was saying to him about how she's impulsive and that's just how it is. With that being said, I've never been keen on the character of Tina. Cord is not a fave of mine either. He's always breathless when he delivers his lines and throws in the word "girl" as much as possible LOL
Tina could have told Cord her and Johnny had a sexual relationship in California. Wasnt any of his business because he was doing what he wanted when they were apart, lol
@@belinda8780 it wouldnt have mattered cause tina is afraid Johnny will tell cord they did it on badderly before tina & cord had sex but they were starting their reconciliation ( again) when she slept w/ Johnny. Sadly tina knows cord won't understand she hated doing it & it only happened b/c she was literally saving cords life & everyone else. Johnny was in a rush & on fire to get to his private room & cord was there snopping for the remote to the lab. It was a horrible situation that tina thought she could control w/ distracting Johnny but he made it clear it was time for sex or he was going to his room & even told her he was sick of her stalling him & was gonna send her home the next morning to llainview. So that also was a problem as tina was also playing her role like everyone else & her pretending she was interested in Johnny helped a lot. It gave her access to him nobody had & b/c Greg had to respect her as Johnny's " girl " he gave the others a couple big breaks just b/c tina asked him to. She tried like 7x to stall him in her room by talking then he'd start pushing for sex when she stopped him he got up to go to his room. She'd start kissing him again & asked to talk he'd again go for sex she'd say no he'd say no & this went on & on til he was getting angry & then said he was sending her away & then she made the decision to just basically get it " over with " so she knew it had to be enough time for cord to be safe. It wad a situation that she got in way over her head. So again it's the sex on badderly that she's terrified of him knowing. It's sad cord couldn't understand she only did it as a very last resort to save his life & everyone else's.
Cord is unsufferable. Maybe if he didn't nuke his marriage again to tina wouldn't have ever gotten mixed up w/ Johnny dee in the first place. Cord seems to only want tina back when some other guy is interested. Then he starts grilling her about Johnny yet he had no problem flaunting Debra in her face in her father's house. Cord is way to judgemental & conditional w/ Tina. OK she can be impulsive & not think things through but she never has bad intentions or does things to hurt people. Viki before Todd really started this trend of being way to hard on tina instead if accepting the simple fact that her being Victor 's love child w/ Irene was not her fault ! She didn't ask to be Born. So b/c tina existing basically it meant viki walking out of denial that her father wasn't the perfect moral man she thought he was. ( I won't even touch the later writing about him being an incestuous pedo monster as they kept trashing the Victor character year after year to create more relatives for viki. I.e. Todd & tina & again w/ eterna ^ Victor cruelly taking her child away & having her hypnotized so viki could have a grown Daughter. I'm not complaining cause it was a great idea to bring on tina megan & Todd as vikis family to build up the lords & give these formidable characters excellent ties to the show through its major main star Victoria lord. Viki was way too conditional w/ Tina too so it's no wonder tina found a man like viki as viki essentially took over as her mother figure when tina was still a young girl on hs. Once the Victor is my dad story started viki s behavior toward tina was inexcusable. The heaven storyline very much addressed this w/ Irene Victor & even mitch talking facts as he was up there from hell. It always stuck w/ me when mitch told her " tina was basically a good kid. Sure a little needy but w/ a little love a little money she would have been content as a cat purring by the fire " so true. I think that was a turning point where viki realized when she woke up that she needed to finally accept her as her sister & told her llainfair was always her home. Too bad as the years went by that didn't matter as she never put tina on the deed & one of vikis alters Jean banished tina from llainfair along w/ cj & Sarah. Poor tina was from this wealthy family where everyone else was benefitting from the $$ but her. She was virtually homeless taking the kids & herself to crash at serenity springs w/ Luna. Nothing beats original recipe cord & Tina when it was love at first sight when they met in texas. Cord was so smitten he came chasing after tina in llainview sadly once he got there it didn't take long for viki Clint & Asa to start warning him away from tina. Tina was first into the fire of viki having to deal w/ her father's other side. So the first one in always gets burned. This made it much easier for viki to accept the next illigit kid in Todd who viki had to be disgusted w/ given he led the gang rape of Marty & that horrible event led to Kevin being accidentally Farley accused by Marty. The writing later w/ that was a bit revisionist b/c Todd never said Kevin raped Marty too & he had to be surprised as anyone that Kevin was fingered by Marty as well. But Todd always maintained that it was just the 3 real ones that had " consensual sex w/ Marty " later writing made it sound like Todd was saying Kevin did it. Even if Todd admitted his own guilt that wouldn't have necessarily cleared Kevin as Marty said Kevin came in after the other 3 or that's what Todd actually thought. But yes if they hadn't have raped Marty then when Kevin came in later Marty never would have gotten him mixed up w/ the others. All I'm saying is Todd never said Kevin was in that room when he Zack & Powell were. Anyway speaking of that viki had no problem immediately accepting Powell back into llainfair when he admitted he raped Marty. & Powell was only her 2nd cousin that she barely knew given he had lived in calif his whole life & in rewritten backstory he as a child visited llainfair a couple times when he & Kevin & Joey were little & playing together. Also if tina never came along & viki had years to accept her fathers enormous flaws I wonder if she would have been so willing to accept that she even had a grown Daughter. If not for tina making viki see what Victor was capable of she never would have believed her own father would be capable of having viki hypnotized to forget Roger & giving birth than spiriting her daughter away to Roger to raise for 25 years w/o telling anyone the truth. Viki was back to loving Victor despite these things more than ever. Only when the abuse was revealed did she start to despise him.
They had to end the marriage because the original Tina Andrea Evans had to leave the show because of a stalker. I guess they felt they needed to wait a few months before bringing in a new actress. They could have had Tina had to leave for a few months because of her legal troubles rather than ending cord and Tina
Hmmm so this was the beginning of the end of Meagan ? I know she left a lil after gabrielle and i think when the real Max came back ... I stopped watching right when Gabrielle left i guess i will stay to watch OLTL longer the second time around
I find Charlotte and Jake to be far more interesting than Megan and Jake. Same thing with Tina and Johnny Dee at least when compared with that goofy Cain Rogan.
Thanks again for uploading this. While I wait for your uploads I've jumed ahead to April of 1991! I'm dying to find out how they go there and am thankful for these videos.
Johnny Dee was a kind of important character considering he was only on the show for a short period of time in 1990. He was mentioned a lot throughout the years and was of course the motivation for most of Carlo's plots. The actor playing him is actually pretty decent. He had a solid career before and after OLTL.
I like Johnny. I can't wait to see the rest of his storyline. Good stuff coming up
@BMac. When Carlo returned in 1996 he was so obsessed w/ Nikki killing Johnny which really was self defense of another person. Johnny punched tinaa lights out & was literally gonna carry her unconsciouss body to God knows where. Nikki during that whole ordeal was awesome b/c she came out to protect tina. Sadly they turned Nikki into this homicidal maniac who despised vikis family loved ones & husband's. Anyway Carlo for most of 96 wanted viki to kill her son as an eye for an eye using that shrink that Carlo owned when he payed all his gambling debts off. I also remember in 95 way Todd & viki became even closer than she felt to her 3 living kids at the time. Telling him at the lodge that she loved him & he was " closer to my heart than my own children " my mouth hot the floor. Anyway in 95 t&b were working on a story about viki once all her alters csne out. So Blair brought up how viki as Nikki killed csrlo" s son Johnny dee. She told him this as he was writing a full article about the destruction she caused as Nikki Smith. In 95 at that point Todd didn't wrsw about all vikis alters which weds 7 including herself. Then in 98 when Dorian was shot & in a coma Dorian went to hell * which is pretty sick when she had noy doing nothing wrong. Anywa eleven rbfdd
I just put it together: the actress playing Charlotte Hessner was in the Charlie’s Angels ‘Teen Angels’ episode 18 season 3. I knew that was the same voice!
She was on Dallas for a few seasons.
Darling scene between Faux Max and Megan. I loved Max and Megan as a couple but I do enjoy Jake and Megan too.
I loved Max/Megan too!
@@tammyramey Me too. Max and Tina also.
@Paul Martin even though as a kid I loved max & Gabrielle & Jake & megan I only started watching oltl religiously when max was starting his seduction. Campaign to get the truth out of her. I never saw max & Megan's story from the start til many years later & I never saw Micheal & Gabrielle til this wonderful channel showed them from their start as lovers to partners in crime w/ the whole start of eterna & getting that Lysander guy to hypnotize viki into remembering the eterna entrance. Anyway gabs was def falling for Micheal all those months max was off the show living in Texas. I actually felt for Gabrielle that she thought she & al finally moved on from max & was talking to the still baby al about how she hoped Micheal would give him a baby brother or sister. When Alicia turned up & announced she was pregnant I felt bad for Gabrielle. Micheal Alicia & Gabrielle became very close friends fast & it was still obvious Micheal & Gabrielle cared about eachother very much. I'll never forget when al came to take al away Micheal went there to try & defuse this very hostile situation. Then he stayed to comfort Gabrielle as a good friend to calm her down. Then he went to max to appeal to him to reconsider keeping al away from her. The wrters really had her doing such stupid unnessary things when if she just kept calm she easily would have had full custosy or at least joint custody. Max was barely apart of that boys life for 2 years. John told him it was an uphill battle given max never legally est any custodial rights to al. Gabrielles lawyer did a great job hammering max about his comings & goings in als life & how he had pretty much abandoned his son for several months when he moved to Texas. He said something like " theirs the door Mr holden fot when u walk out on your son again !!" All max had was John bringing in all the babysitters Gabrielle left al with. Since when does a single working mom having babysitters constitue bring unfit. But then Gabrielle messed up badly by unnessarilly bribing a health code inspector to shut Max's bar down & the building where he hoped for al to live. If she didn't pull stupid stunts like that she never would have lost al.
Yeah Megan and the fake Max have a good chemistry. This is one of his best scenes as Max.
They totally messed it up with having Max not caring when Megan was cleared of the murder charges or Megan not being there when Max revealed himself. It would have been nice if Max went to go see Megan as Matt when was cleared under the reporter guise and said off the record I always thought you were not guilty.
Thank you!!
I can't believe that I'm going to agree with Tina on something but I am. She always is having to change for Cord and that would be hard to do all of the time. I get what she was saying to him about how she's impulsive and that's just how it is. With that being said, I've never been keen on the character of Tina. Cord is not a fave of mine either. He's always breathless when he delivers his lines and throws in the word "girl" as much as possible LOL
I think why Tina has some fans is that she's too often held to an unfairly high behavioral standard that other schemers didn't have to.
@@paulmartin7705 I think you said this very well actually!!
@@LisaHouserman Thanks.
@Paul Martin seriously! When it came to tina he had ridulousl high standards for her
Cord has something alot of soap heros and romantic leads have. The Madonna/Whore complex.
Tina could have told Cord her and Johnny had a sexual relationship in California. Wasnt any of his business because he was doing what he wanted when they were apart, lol
They didn't have a sexual relationship in California. He was just kind to her and she needed that.
@@paulmartin7705 yep I know that. I was just giving an excuse she could have used since she is afraid to tell him about what happened.
@@belinda8780 it wouldnt have mattered cause tina is afraid Johnny will tell cord they did it on badderly before tina & cord had sex but they were starting their reconciliation ( again) when she slept w/ Johnny. Sadly tina knows cord won't understand she hated doing it & it only happened b/c she was literally saving cords life & everyone else. Johnny was in a rush & on fire to get to his private room & cord was there snopping for the remote to the lab. It was a horrible situation that tina thought she could control w/ distracting Johnny but he made it clear it was time for sex or he was going to his room & even told her he was sick of her stalling him & was gonna send her home the next morning to llainview. So that also was a problem as tina was also playing her role like everyone else & her pretending she was interested in Johnny helped a lot. It gave her access to him nobody had & b/c Greg had to respect her as Johnny's " girl " he gave the others a couple big breaks just b/c tina asked him to. She tried like 7x to stall him in her room by talking then he'd start pushing for sex when she stopped him he got up to go to his room. She'd start kissing him again & asked to talk he'd again go for sex she'd say no he'd say no & this went on & on til he was getting angry & then said he was sending her away & then she made the decision to just basically get it " over with " so she knew it had to be enough time for cord to be safe. It wad a situation that she got in way over her head. So again it's the sex on badderly that she's terrified of him knowing. It's sad cord couldn't understand she only did it as a very last resort to save his life & everyone else's.
Cord is unsufferable. Maybe if he didn't nuke his marriage again to tina wouldn't have ever gotten mixed up w/ Johnny dee in the first place. Cord seems to only want tina back when some other guy is interested. Then he starts grilling her about Johnny yet he had no problem flaunting Debra in her face in her father's house. Cord is way to judgemental & conditional w/ Tina. OK she can be impulsive & not think things through but she never has bad intentions or does things to hurt people. Viki before Todd really started this trend of being way to hard on tina instead if accepting the simple fact that her being Victor 's love child w/ Irene was not her fault ! She didn't ask to be Born. So b/c tina existing basically it meant viki walking out of denial that her father wasn't the perfect moral man she thought he was. ( I won't even touch the later writing about him being an incestuous pedo monster as they kept trashing the Victor character year after year to create more relatives for viki. I.e. Todd & tina & again w/ eterna ^ Victor cruelly taking her child away & having her hypnotized so viki could have a grown Daughter. I'm not complaining cause it was a great idea to bring on tina megan & Todd as vikis family to build up the lords & give these formidable characters excellent ties to the show through its major main star Victoria lord. Viki was way too conditional w/ Tina too so it's no wonder tina found a man like viki as viki essentially took over as her mother figure when tina was still a young girl on hs. Once the Victor is my dad story started viki s behavior toward tina was inexcusable. The heaven storyline very much addressed this w/ Irene Victor & even mitch talking facts as he was up there from hell. It always stuck w/ me when mitch told her " tina was basically a good kid. Sure a little needy but w/ a little love a little money she would have been content as a cat purring by the fire " so true. I think that was a turning point where viki realized when she woke up that she needed to finally accept her as her sister & told her llainfair was always her home. Too bad as the years went by that didn't matter as she never put tina on the deed & one of vikis alters Jean banished tina from llainfair along w/ cj & Sarah. Poor tina was from this wealthy family where everyone else was benefitting from the $$ but her. She was virtually homeless taking the kids & herself to crash at serenity springs w/ Luna. Nothing beats original recipe cord & Tina when it was love at first sight when they met in texas. Cord was so smitten he came chasing after tina in llainview sadly once he got there it didn't take long for viki Clint & Asa to start warning him away from tina. Tina was first into the fire of viki having to deal w/ her father's other side. So the first one in always gets burned.
This made it much easier for viki to accept the next illigit kid in Todd who viki had to be disgusted w/ given he led the gang rape of Marty & that horrible event led to Kevin being accidentally Farley accused by Marty. The writing later w/ that was a bit revisionist b/c Todd never said Kevin raped Marty too & he had to be surprised as anyone that Kevin was fingered by Marty as well. But Todd always maintained that it was just the 3 real ones that had " consensual sex w/ Marty " later writing made it sound like Todd was saying Kevin did it. Even if Todd admitted his own guilt that wouldn't have necessarily cleared Kevin as Marty said Kevin came in after the other 3 or that's what Todd actually thought. But yes if they hadn't have raped Marty then when Kevin came in later Marty never would have gotten him mixed up w/ the others. All I'm saying is Todd never said Kevin was in that room when he Zack & Powell were. Anyway speaking of that viki had no problem immediately accepting Powell back into llainfair when he admitted he raped Marty. & Powell was only her 2nd cousin that she barely knew given he had lived in calif his whole life & in rewritten backstory he as a child visited llainfair a couple times when he & Kevin & Joey were little & playing together.
Also if tina never came along & viki had years to accept her fathers enormous flaws I wonder if she would have been so willing to accept that she even had a grown Daughter. If not for tina making viki see what Victor was capable of she never would have believed her own father would be capable of having viki hypnotized to forget Roger & giving birth than spiriting her daughter away to Roger to raise for 25 years w/o telling anyone the truth. Viki was back to loving Victor despite these things more than ever. Only when the abuse was revealed did she start to despise him.
They had to end the marriage because the original Tina Andrea Evans had to leave the show because of a stalker. I guess they felt they needed to wait a few months before bringing in a new actress. They could have had Tina had to leave for a few months because of her legal troubles rather than ending cord and Tina
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Hmmm so this was the beginning of the end of Meagan ? I know she left a lil after gabrielle and i think when the real Max came back ... I stopped watching right when Gabrielle left i guess i will stay to watch OLTL longer the second time around
i'm 99.9% sure Megan did not leave until January or February of 92 which was a year and a half away.
It was close to the end of Sarah. Yes Sarah came back in late 91 for about a year but it wasn't Jensen so it didn't count.
I find Charlotte and Jake to be far more interesting than Megan and Jake. Same thing with Tina and Johnny Dee at least when compared with that goofy Cain Rogan.