The Disney Star Wars Sequel Trilogy Documentary
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2020
- The Disney Star Wars Sequel Trilogy Documentary
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The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy Documentary is everything you wanted to know about Disney's Star Wars sequel trilogy. Including JJ Abrams, Kathleen Kennedy, George Lucas, Rian Johnson, and many fans!
The sequel trilogy is the third installment of films of the Star Wars saga to be produced. It begins thirty years after the ending of Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi and focuses around a conflict between the First Order, a military state and successor to the Galactic Empire, and the Resistance, a military group formed to oppose the First Order and successor to the Alliance to Restore the Republic.
The films are produced by Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy, with Bad Robot Productions having also helped produce The Force Awakens. The trilogy features the return of classic Star Wars characters Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, Han Solo, Chewbacca, R2-D2, C-3PO, and Darth Sidious as well as a host of new characters, primarily focusing on the Force-sensitive scavenger Rey, the deserter First Order stormtrooper Finn and Kylo Ren, the son of Leia Organa and Han Solo who is the master of the Knights of Ren and who had fallen into the dark side of the Force.
Rumors of a sequel trilogy had been talked about for decades, ever since George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, stated that he had plans for films that would take place after the original Star Wars trilogy. As the canon saga developed, however, Lucas denied that a sequel trilogy would ever be made, stating that Star Wars was the story of Anakin Skywalker and that his story ended in Return of the Jedi. The development of the sequel trilogy was made official on October 30, 2012, when The Walt Disney Company announced that it was acquiring Lucasfilm from Lucas and that they would be producing new Star Wars films beginning in 2015.
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LOL@U Film? You actually call these films. LOL@U
It's the same length, though - is there anything different there?
I watched it.
Thank you for this update. I thought it was something wrong on my end. :)
Your audo keeps cuting out at the beginning of each rant montage. It could be your edit or it could be UA-cam messing things up again.
It was vary distracting.
We are living in a time where a documentary breaking down the Disney Trilogy is more entertaining and has more effort put into it than the actual trilogy.
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Absolutely
Corporate Hollywood is dead it's all reboots/rehashes and pandering now
Agreed and hail doomcock!!!
Calling it the Disney trilogy is ridiculous. It's the Kennedy trilogy. They didn't touch the film. Lucasfilms hadn't made a movie since the prequels. And they didn't buy George Lucas they bought the brand he created. Hire good writers and keep a few consultants on retainer. Just to make sure your character names sound like star wars.
Turning a billion dollar franchise into a million dollar franchise in such a short period is quite the achievement.
It’s still a billion dollar franchise
@@knownpleasures metaphorically, not literally. Isnt that obvious???
turning a billion dollor franchise into a crime againt humanity.
I don't understand how people liked these movies, or even more Insulting saying that they're better than the prequels
It's kinda like racing, right? "In order to make a small fortune in racing, first you take a large fortune..."
I'm so impressed with Mark Hamill's level of integrity & his drive to preserve what he could.
I can't imagine how many unpleasant conversations he must have gone through after those interviews.
Completely agree. He had a clear impression of the character he played and its importance culturally. It's not your fault, Mark 😔
@@rylanasher4756agree 100%
I can picture Mark and Ryan yelling at each other and insulting their mothers.
Yeah, you could tell he was trying his best to hold his tongue throughout the entire press tour, but occasionally he let it slip. Man was not happy that they butchered his character, and one of the most iconic characters in entertainment.
It's fascinating to see all these Producers and Writers and Directors saying what fans they are, and how important the characters are, and how much they love Star Wars.
And then you watch these films, and begin to realize that they do not understand the fans, or the franchise.
They are proven liars.
Vary true. I also find it hard to watch fans get duped into believing its going to be fixed in the next movie and watching the entire train wreck with disappointment.
I can’t speak for anyone else but JJ Abrams actually is a big Star Wars fan which baffles me.
I'm genuinely amazed Kathleen Kennedy was able to say that stuff about protecting the characters without being struck by lightning.
God was giving her enough rope to hang herself with, maybe? She's certainly done that, alright!
She lied to the audience and straight to George's face. She's a liar and incompetent.
That's because her nose grew instead and she got more plastic surgery right away.
Maybe because as a darkside user, she controls the lightning. :p
I forgot how much of a lisp she has. I don't know how else to describe it.
They should of got Rey to write the scripts , she’s inexplicably good at literally everything she does with no experience 🤔🤷♂️
Remember when Luke Skywalker is show flying a space ship in the original Star Wars? He blows up the Death Star on his first try flying a space ship! Rey is "overpowered" lol.
@@EddSchneider But in the end he had help from Han and Ben's ghost. While it was fantastical, its not as blatantly "overpowered" as beating highly trained Sith and Jedi in lightsaber duels with no training. Also immediately being able to use mind tricks. Can go on and on. She's a whole different level of "overpowered"
@@EddSchneider Grows up on a desert planet but knows how to sail a stormy sea 🤣 two can play that game...
@@EddSchneider major difference in using the force to aim a shot with what is essentially a smart bomb on steroids, vs everything she did. Good try though, try some better bait next time!
@@EddSchneider 🤡
I was born in the 1970s and have been a Star wars fan since then, I had never walked out of a movie in my life until TLJ, The Way Luke was portrayed or should I say Betrayed by RJ was unforgiveable....Real fans know this.
Born in 67 the thing is George didn't even know why it was a success. Like Adam the ants or Spandau Ballet you can't trap lighting in a bottle twice. I had 2000AD comics and the original Blade runner not that crap 2049.
in another universe star wars is king ,rule the world,
star wars is gold..lucas is king and made this movies epic gold
Not at all, it was the perfect continuation of his character
Exactly! It was a total character involution.
I wasn’t born in 70s I was born in 1992 I’ve never heard of Star Wars until tpm my father and grandfather introduced me to Star Wars when we first saw the tralier it was awesome than I saw the original 3 before watching tpm and I was amazed by Luke’s character he was one of my fav characters in fiction but than I saw the last Jedi I never walked out like u did but when I saw Luke’s death I felt nothing at all I feel the same way as mark hamil they betrayed luke skywalker
Mark Hamill's dissing of TLJ was epic and spot on. You could tell that he HATED the story and how his character was ruined.
And the way Disney invoked his NDA and shut him down.
It’s just too bad that he walked it back. I could accept him not talking about it anymore, but they made him backtrack and he folded like laundry.
@@henrikaugustsson4041 Disney could have ruined him and his family financially. Everyone knew what him walking it back was about.
@@paulferris7717 honestly paul, I see more diversity in these videos naturally than current Disney and so many other companies playing social media suck up
You have to remember you take what you thought of the Last Jedi and * 1000. Forgot like me what they did is destroyed my Boyhood hero. That's okay it happens I'm not a boy anymore, but what they destroyed for Mark Hamill is the very Foundation of his whole entire life
Anakin DID bring balance to the force.
Palpatine died in VI
THE END
I don't care what Disney tries to claim since it's not true.
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@AT87 It was on episode One The Phantom Menace.
I am agree with you I have the same feeling about Terminator franchise too.
@AT87
Yet there is because Lucas said there was.
Star Wars is George Lucas's story. It's not Lucasfilm's, not Disney's, Not Abrams, Kennedy,Johnson,Iger, or anyone else's.
Star Wars is and forever will be George Lucas's story.
Just like James Cameron is the only authority on Terminator.
Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis are the authorities on Back to the Future.
It's like that. Anything else outside of those scopes doesn't count as cannonical. Never have nor ever will.
Darth Grumpy whiny
Watching those Mark Hammil interviews always breaks my heart at how much he cares about the fans and his character.
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Which makes the way his character was thrown away in 'The Last Jedi' all the more annoying. Mark (and Luke) deserved so much better
Why? His wokeness is coming home to roost and biting him in the ass. He's a garbage human being now and he can't see how his ideology is faulty.
It was insanely sad. 😭
Too bad Harrison Ford wasn’t on that same level
Turning Luke into a grumpy old man with no consular properties is a tragedy. All they had to do was Lukes Jedi temple and a return of a Sith threat. I can't believe how bad they messed it up.
Luke should have been like the more idealistic Obi-Wan. I don’t know why Rian Johnson had to murder his character.
Yeah, really wasn't hard to make a simple continuation of the story and have 3 of the most iconic characters in cinematic history share the screen together at least ONCE in the movie.
Their priority however wasn't about the story, it was about identity politics.
Why couldn’t they have given us a good reason for Kylo leaving the Jedi order and building up a new army, you could do a switcheroo where the sith/new empire is the rebel force this time
This makes me so sad 😞 So many missed opportunities. The most disgusting and sickening miss opportunity was when Han, Luke and Leia were not put on the screen together into one scene. The photoshopped photo that Hammil tweeted was what all Star Wars fans wanted. We never got it 🤬
The sequel trilogy is what taught me that I can have my own canon in my head regardless of what anyone says
I would say that we simply have no choice. Reality is too terrible to be taken for granted.
None of this crap has any real connection to the phenomena that occured in the late 70's/early 80's...All it has been is failed attempts at recreating it...For those of us who experienced it and grew up on it, all the Kathleen Kennedys and woke Disney Co. A-Holes in Hollywood can't erase those memories...No matter how much they want to, or try.
@@BiriBiri925 for real for
Shut up. Disney ruined Star Wars.
@@Jonwood74 🎻
Why does Rose have to tell Finn about how bad child slavery is, when he was literally abducted by the First Order as a child and basically put into slavery!
Damn near every detail of the sequel trilogy tears along the stitches upon closer inspection.
It IS some kind of achievement I guess.
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This movie is almost worth watching again just to see how fucking sorry it is
Your well crafted argument has failed to sway me to your side. Simple put, Finn already knew the horrors of the first order. Rose may of convinced him to being a Resistance soldier. Which at least gave him a character arc. But it doesn't change the fact the sequel trilogy is a mess of bad movies. And what do you mean I should take Star Wars more seriously. I already do. But it's hard to take the sequel trilogy seriously. Also who the heck are these elders you mentioned? People don't get my respect until they've earned it. And it doesn't change the fact Finn isn't morally wrong. The Resistance is in a bad situation. Finn what's to make sure Rey is safe. But he should know by now she is a Mary Sue and can handle herself. Actually the Canto bite mission ends up killing a ton of resistance soldiers. To which they feel no guilt and celebrate at the end.
@You tuber you're backing the wrong space horse, mate.
My biggest complaints upon watching TFA were: 1. Rey's character stumbling upon her force powers with no guidance whatsoever, and 2. The lack of relationship-building moments between the three protagonists. Poe and Finn basically bump into each other and are instant buds - to the point that Poe embraces Finn at the end like he was his best friend. Last Jedi and Rise Of Skywalker not only didn't fix those issues, but they just blew it all to shit.
TFA was simply plagerism of a New Hope. Then half through JJ did some Lost shit. Leaving multiple open endings and cliffhangers… then from there on it was 180’ degrees of bullshit from RJ, then a reverse 120’ degrees sprinkled with fan service nostalgia from JJ again. Utter destruction.
Dude TFA sucked way more than last jedi.
I haven't see the original trilogy in awhile but Imagine if Gorge lickus made it the saga that he originally intended. 6 movies 2 covering obi-wan kenobie and qui-gon jinn with qui gon training obiwan.
You want to know what sucks JUST as much as #1.. getting an antagonist like Snoke also 1. stumbling into the leader of the entire First Order with no origin or background on him.. and then 2. instantly killing him so easily with no development again before the third film even started.
Can you just imagine how it would have been to see Han, Luke an Leia reunited on screen and going to a last adventure, save the day on a smaller scale, having a darker Fin ex storm trooper with deep conflict in him between the light and dark force, that would have helped our hero infiltrate the enemy, knowing their thechniques and weaknesses. having a true Jedi training with an awesome general Skywalker...a compelling villain, and maybe Ray being super strong cuz she was actually a high rank Sith general that had her memory wiped away dark Revan style from the old rebublic... There was so much potential...
Yeah but what we got was total garbage
It's terribly sad to see this happened to Star Wars... My grandfather, the one who bought me the VHS of the originals... The one who took me to the theatres to see the prequels...
He died before TFA was announced... Thank God he didn't saw the sequel trilogy.
May the Force be with you Grandpa
boRja90 Hail to your grandfather. I wish I would of not seen these movies. At this point I have blocked them out as really bad non fan films. Lol 😂
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😢
The force will be with your Grandpa, always.
my mom bought me return of the jedi on vhs many years ago she died in jan of 2014 im happy to see se never saw me rage and rant about how terribke these films are my moms favorite charecter ws yoda she wanted to see the sequel trilogy with me im happy she didnt but am sad and depressed she did not see me rant and rage how terrible these films are my mom was going to let me see all 3 films at midnight but could not due to her passing away
I guess I was in the minority. I walked out of "The Force Awakens" thinking..."not good". The trilogy went downhill from there. I'll never forget Poe's line to Holdo in TLJ..."please tell us that you have a PLAN". That's the epitaph for this trilogy.
I know that feeling.
I wasn't impressed with it either. One of the friends I went with hated it. But when I saw those TLJ trailers - especially the "the Jedi must end" one - did I get a bad feeling about where this shit was going.
Yes, I hated the TFA with passion. Third death star and another rebels vs empire was an insult from very beginning
You definitely were in the minority for TFA. You were NOT in the minority for TLJ
Nah force awakens was meh
So many people parroting that you had to see the last Jedi twice to enjoy it makes me REALLY REALLY think Disney had their finger in spreading that line. of course they'd want people to go see the same movie twice, double the money.
This documentary was made with a lot of thought. I'm still disappointed that Luke Skywalker "wasted" the remainder of his life living as a hermit on an island. That's not the Luke I have known.
Thanks gerry!!!
I agree
The Disney films are not canon to me idc what anyone says. Luke after 6 went on to meet Mara Jade start a family and rebuild the Jedi order, meeting Kyle Katarn and many others.
Hell. That's not the Luke Mark Hamill knows!
@@Xapheion101 very well said, I agree 100%
The Disney trilogy in a few words
Vii-the REHASH!
Viii-the INSULT!
Ix-the MINDLESS!
Meanwhile
I.The BEGINNING!
II. The TRAGEDY!
III. The FALLEN!
IV.The HOPE!
V. The PAIN!
VI. The REDEMPTION!
What it should’ve been
VII. The RETURN!
VIII. The TEST!
IX. The LEGACY!
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The only thing that has changed is that TFA is somewhat watchable for me but the rest after that is just BS
And I think you should make another documentary explaining Disney’s handling of the TLJ backlash (especially Ruin Johnson’s response to the backlash) and maybe explain why people hate or love TLJ. Or you can look more into a subject in the documentary that didn’t get touched on enough or want to explain further.
But that’s just me
@@brandenmanuel2037 thank you!!
This comment is so accurate I'm copying it to my Google Keep.
The fact that you hold the prequels in such high regard tells me that time has vanished how they were greeted when they came out. Time judges the value of a film, not your initial feelings. Id say go back in time and see how disappointed ppl were with the prequels. This new trilogy is not like the original or the prequels. It is its own story that is connected to the others. Instead of voicing your rage, let time settle and see if you still feel the same way. I would also add that the children that are watching these films will see it different than you and you will see how much you are alike. Think about it.
The best thing about this trilogy, is that it's over.
@Catherine Heridis l can only hope so.
Amen.
Yeah with 7 their was disappointment, with 8 their was hate, 9 nothing but apathy, at this point they could do anything and I wouldn't care
I would say, the best thing about it is that George Lucas had nothing to do with it, and so artistically speaking, is not canon. Everything Disney does is just high budget fan fiction.
you couldn't had said that any better
25:00 When Mark's ingenuity, intelligence and personality is talking off his heart, that awful woman keeps looking with that dreaded face of hers. I'm glad we still got Mark, one of the very last ones that still is with us hardcore fans.
marks hates you like all the other hollywood celebrities hate actual fans of properties nowadays, if anything he is worse because he should know what its like now but still is on their side
This is a great comprehensive documentary on Star Wars that everyone should see. Poor Mark Hamill; breaks my heart.
Thank you Becky!
I also cried at the end of Episode 9. You know why? Because I realised how mistreated they have this legacy Star Wars, it's history and especially Mark Hamill, who loved his Luke Skywalker, without apology. Kennedy pissed and shat on George Lucas - the man who put her at the top of Lucasfilm to defend his legacy. 7, 8 and 9 are best left forgotten. This shall be Kennedy's legacy.
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Yes, they couldn't do right by Luke, but they could show two chicks kissing. What a FUCKING joke this trilogy is!!!
this AND the already doomed Galactic Starcuiser - bahahahahaha - if she doesn't get replaced and/or fired soon...Disney's Star Wars will be unrecognizable as anything Star Wars.
Get over it, I had to watch prequels as an adult and endure Jar Jar Binks and I've3 still enjoyed all the Star Wars iteration even kiddy cartoon. They were always for kids. I like Rey, you are all just followers repeating what others say just enjoy it, incels.
@@theotterguy jar jar is literally the key to all of this. Like the sequels all you want, None of the pieces go together whatsoever. Pay attention to the movies & you'll see how bad of a story the sequels are. Stunning Visuals are the only thing they had that made it good. The original actors don't even like the sequel story either or there own lines in the movie. The characters could've been done wayyy better but Kennedy doesn't know shit about Star Wars & admitted herself that she doesn't even like the prequels, she's building her own downfall. Lucas doesn't even like it 😂
''KK betrayed and murdered your franchise!"
Jason Rogers I agree ☝️
And the sentiment is _not_ expressed from a certain point of view....
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Agreed
From her point of view it's the fans who are evil!
George Lucas always said the story ended with Anakin's redemption and the death of the Emperor.
George Lucas was right. We just didn't realize it at the time.
not really. maybe if you mean the sky walker sage yes. but kotor is arguably the best star wars saga.
Fans: TROS was the WORST Film we've ever seen in our lives.
Rotten Tomatoes: Liars, Liars, EVERYONE'S PANTS (The Pants of Episode 9 Haters) IS ON FIRE! *Raises The Audience Score to 86%*
@@johnymustacio
Kotor happens before the OS and Prequels
@@knavenformed9436OMG Then use the Thrawn trilogy, the LOTF or any other story after.
The documentary greatly illustrates how people tend to lie to themselves when they love something, how we, the fans just jump on the hype train and if one isn’t objective enough can be led by these giant corporations who do not give a crap about these properties. There are films I absolutely love yet still recognise their faults and shortcomings completely. As I always tell my friends “look, i wanna love it just as much as you do, but we gotta be just, objective, less impulsive and recognise how much power the brand name has over us.” A very engaging documentary. Never support the Disney SW. They betrayed the people whose money they used to build their empire.
I’m old enough to have gotten burned with the prequels you’d think I would have known better.
I saw it in the cinema and I just was disappointed. Didn't understand how everyone wa saying this was better then the prequels. The fans are Star Wars biggest problem.
It's just so depressing to think we could've avoided this mess if 1.They'd had a plan and 2. Put story over agenda. Just so sad.
Question, what kind of agenda was in the movies? Do you have any examples?
the more i think about it though im not sure, if thye planned it all out beforehand what whould they do with Carries passing? they're would be substantial rewrites regardless
I think they DID have a plan, it was just unfortunately side tracked from the reaction to TLJ and Carrie Fischer’s death
@@Buttcakes15 they didn't.
Well, they done a good job establishing Tug of War arc between the writers and directors so that's something (sigh)
I love how there is basically no commentary for the "Last Jedi" section. He just lets the shocked and appalled fans tell the sad story.
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Lmao that was hilarious tbf. I don't want to exaggerate, but TLJ has to be up there with one of the worst big-budget movies ever made. The whole series was pretty poor, but the TLJ was the lowest of the low for me. I almost walked out half way through to get a KFC before it closed. Honestly I feel bad for that actress who played Rose for all the flack she caught off that movie. It was just a horribly written and annoying character, but who's gona turn down a chance to be in a Star Wars movie? Especially if you're a relatively young actor. The autistic guy who went to my high school made a more compelling Star Wars short in Moving Image Arts when we were like 16.
This documentary explains what we all feel... expect the sound to cut off twice but it comes back
I found the silence quite refreshing.
The biggest problem with the sequel trilogy, writing wise, is NOTHING IS EARNED!! All they needed to do is get a strong writer director to work along side Lucas, keeping his bad ideas in check and giving life to his good ideas.
the worst part is there will never be another attempt at this without using weird cgi face scans
True, but they should re-do it anyways. Forget about all this shit, and start over.
God. Imagine having t shirts with “The force is male” written on it.
Worse than midi-chlorians.
let's fucking do it just to piss then off.
The shirt would read “Star Wars”
@Potwheelz "Hip hop clothing is designed by Gay White Males and Women."
Where did you get that shit from?? Those "designers" always steal ideas from street culture. They create nothing! They always look back to the past, and then try to sell us flared pants, and high heel boots as if they're new fashions.
Those were Nike shirts, not Star Wars. Reserve getting upset for real issues, please.
I am a huge Star Wars fan eversince the first movie came out in 1977, when I was just 6 years old. In my late teens, I realized that Star Wars was basically just trash science fiction compared to many other movies, comic books and novels from that genre, but that it was made with so much effort, passion and creativity, that it becomes a beautiful piece of art just because of that...and though my taste in sci-fi and movies in general became much more mature, I still always loved Star Wars, I rewatched the OT so often, that I knew every line in it by heart. Back then as a male one could easily ruin a date, just by mentioning one was a Star Wars fan, as unlike today, most girls/young ladies had strong negative feelings about everything that is considered to be "nerd culture" today. I didn't care. I still loved it. Later I was somewhat dissapointed by the prequel trilogy, but over the years I learnt to love them as well, as they completed the whole story ark and there were SO many details in them, making the Star Wars galaxy feeling much larger. During all of my life, I have spent thousands of USD on Star Wars merch, as a kid I owned hundreds of SW action figures, I had all the iconic space ships, I had a stormtrooper blaster, I've read dozens of SW comics, novels, I played and owned most of the SW vid games, I had SW themed posters, t-shirts, coffee mugs, bed sheets....LOADS of them. I never had children my own, but I introduced my nephew to SW and when he was 9 or 10, I gave my complete collection of Star Wars toys to him, after I had realized, that he had begun to collect them as well. I even turned my father, my sister and her husband and even my wife into fans. After I had watched TFA I saw the movie's flaws, but I still thought it had enough starting potential for a great sequel trilogy. But hen came TLJ... Until then I had watched every single Star Wars OT movie many dozens of times and every prequel movie at least 10 times and though I haven't watch TFA that often, I still owned it on DVD and had watched it a couple of times. TLJ was the first SW movie I felt bad about after having seen it for the first time. A couple of days later after having spend some thoughts about it, I began to deeply hate it. I haven't watched it again, after that first time. I boycotted "Solo" as I was furious about Darth Kath and Rian Johnson having claimed that all fans who disliked TLJ were "toxic", "racist" and "sexist" and Darth Kath arrogant statement that she didn't owe anything to SW fans. Well, no bitch, we don't owe anything to you. I only went to see TROS to see if JJ could somehow safe the sequel trilogy and though I really think he tried, the damage done by TLJ was too severe...and on top of that, TROS wasn't a good movie NOR a half-way decent SW movie either. It pretty much sucked as much as TLJ and I won't rewatch it either. And while I later enjoyed The Mandalorian quite a lot, my former passion for Star Wars has become a mere shadow of what it has been for almost 45 years of my life. Fuck you, Darth Kath! Fuck you, Rian Johnson! Fuck you, JJ Abrams!
Welcome to reality.
Daily reminder that Disney is more akin to the Empire than the Rebellion.
Whatever Mark's disagreements with Rian Johnson's view of Luke Skywalker were, Mark is a professional actor who turned in an amazing, forlorn, tormented performance as Luke in Last Jedi, the deepest performance I've seen Mark deliver. That said, this wasn't the movie we were looking for...
I agree. Look up what RJ said about his writing process for TLJ and you can immediately spot a few key mistakes. Nothing wrong with defying expectations, just don't _defile_ those expectations. Give the audience what they didn't know they wanted? Sure, but don't give them what they didn't know they DIDN'T want.
My problem wasn't with a forlorn Luke, it was the reasons given for him becoming that way and the illogical leap from TFA where he leaves a map, basically saying "Come find me when the time is right", to TLJ where he's saying, "I came here to die, leave me alone."
It just illustrated the lack of planning overall and the non existent communication between JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson
@@kossend1
Some people have already said this, but the map in Episode 7 should've been about the Star Forge, with no Starkiller/Death Star 3.0. The Empire/First Order wants the Forge to rebuild their Armada so of course the New Republic wants to stop them. They fail. Han is killed, Rey and Finn try to fight Kylo, but he escapes with the map. All hopes looks lost, until Leia tells them to go to Luke for training and to get him back in the fight. He didn't leave a map, but she knows where he is through the Force. Boom.
Mark said he didnt play luke he played jake skywalker
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I had seen most of the footage before, but the reminder of how genuinely wounded Mark Hamill was by the treatment of Luke in these movies is reason enough for any fan to regret that Disney Star Wars ever happened. Especially since, having seen the movies, we all know exactly where he was coming from. Also, finishing with Mauler was a good choice. His summation was absolutely on point.
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I think it should be noted that it's not Ryan's or Kathrin's fault.
The problem is inherent in creating the Sequel Trilogy. Stories need to end.... but Disney doesn't want that... and while some of the animated and book spin-offs had issues, using the actual actors changes things drastically.
It was a trilogy with a purpose... it was supposed to free Star Wars... Star Wars was a story, Disney wants a cinematic universe.
And they took advantage of fans asking for more as an advantage.
By destroying the Happily Ever After from ROTJ, they ruined what was a story. By breaking Luke down as the hero, it makes it that he isn't the hero of the franchise anymore.
Star Wars is now no longer the story of a Father and Son, but the Cinematic universe of an alien Galaxy.....
TFA destroyed the happily ever after and the story structure (and using real people and the actual actors did that in a way the books couldn't)
TLJ destroyed Luke as the hero, allowing Star Wars to be about the Galaxy rather than Luke, who no longer was the Paragon of Hope
ROS destroyed continuity, giving Star Wars the freedom to go after anything and make stories that don't always perfectly fit.
And after the Sequel Trilogy (which has 2 good movies on their own, but are sh*tty Star Wars movies), it makes everything after seem much better. And at the same time, once kids who grew up with the story of Star Wars being ruined are adults, they won't see the Sequels as movies that destroyed the framework of Star Wars, but instead just see them as Star Wars movies..
And so they won't be viewed as that bad...sure, they'd still have their flaws, but once the fact they destroyed what Star Wars once was is forgotten, they'll be judge just as movies and they won't be that bad.
Cause the kids would grow up in a world where the Happily Ever After didn't exist and Luke wasn't the paragon of hope....
100%
I was wondering about the surprising lack of Mauler, but finishing with his summary was absolutely perfect.
Every time I see the footage of Hamill warning us about these films, his dispair, etc, it just makes me feel terrible.
Ugh.
I can't believe I never saw this when it first came out. I can tell this was a labor of love. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm the same. Glad this was sent to me by UA-cam.
As long as Disney owns Lucasfilm there is no turning around this franchise. At least we have the memories.
Marvel Studios: successfully plans and executes on screen, with only minor inconsistencies, a 22 movies long plot composed by multiple franchises with multiple protagonists. All starting from characters who were totally unknown to the general audience.
Lucasfilm: can’t plan ahead for a basic 3 movies long plot, one which didn’t even require them to worry about multiple franchises/protagonists. All while having some of the most beloved fictional characters ever, with the original actors returning to play them, completely at their disposal.
And that would be on Kathleen Kennedy for not having a well planned out crew to run it from beginning to end. What did she do throw as many people as she could under the bus
Having beloved characters can be more of a curse then a blessing. Still was a massive botched job
The fact that they could have had all of them (OG’s)on camera together and it didn’t happen is the what hurts the most, it’s mind blowing that it didn’t happen 🤦♀️😞
Sad.
LucasFilm??
Thought it was Disney
Ford Vs Ferrari perfectly summarizes why true passion and talent can only come from the one, not the many. Go see that movie instead.
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Ford V Ferrari is one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen. Never had a movie pulled out an emotional reaction from me like that...I was screaming at the tv like I was watching the story in person lol it’s extremely underrated
Great damn movie
@@peterparker9214 The filmmakers wanted to build that movie as well as the cars they were featuring heheh
It was a great movie, I'll put it over TROS( it's a rarity that a non star wars movie tops a star wars one in my opinion)
The worst possible explanation is that JJ actually knew what he was doing. The best case scenario for him was that he's completely incompetent as a writer.
Rest in peace, Carrie Fisher. May the force be with you wherever you are.
4:30, she lied straight to George Lucas' face with that one. And now we're stuck with a 20¢ Mary Sue version of Luke. This whole trilogy is a 20¢ rip off version of the original trilogy
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@@EchoBaseNetwork I feel that the documentary represented both sides pretty accurately. The dust has settled a bit but Disney's gonna make another cash grab eventually and we'll all be reminded about the trilogy once again. All Disney can do is respect the fans again and give us something we actually wanna see.
That is what KK does best. #CompleteSociopath
25:35: Just realised - now - Kathleen Kennedy's greatest "ability" (according to Spielberg's own words) is that she can interrupt people in the flow of something (whether an idea being brainstormed or a plot point) to put her view in but mainly to throw people off guard. It seems Hamill wasn't willing to play possum and, due to legal issues, couldn't say it but hinted his message to the fans. Well played, Mark, well played.
100% :)
Oh yeah you see Kathleen's "ability" in the behind the scenes episodes of the mandalorian. There's a table full of top tier artists and professionals discussing really interesting and conceptual things and Kathleen keeps interrupting them with Hollywood saleswoman bullsht. It's agonising.
@@wirrawaywonderer6011 Yeah. No on tells her to shut the fuck up man.
What an actual dumbass. How blind do corporations gotta be to think someone like this is even remotely good as an employee, let alone put in a leadership position.
the sequel trilogy made jar jar look like a well thought out and wise story decision
One thing that bothered me was that we never really saw Luke's full capability as a Jedi or his full knowledge of the force besides that he was skilled with a light saber.
100% and that is why Mando SE2 ending was so well received.
Luke literally pulled off the most Jedi of all Jedi moves at the end of TLJ. Think what you will about how his character was initially re-introduced in the sequel trilogy, but to say that we never got to see his capability as a Jedi is just not so.
False. The ending of TLJ showed him as a one with the force at full power.
I hate the trilogy and what they did with the character but your comment is false
@@maskingtables I made this comment nearly a year ago and you are just seeing it. Since then my views have changed and after watching TLJ a few more times I can see it now.
Disney really wasted the original cast and characters. Blown opportunity.
ComicBook Ninja 100000% agreed
you hit the nail on the head with that statement.
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@@EchoBaseNetwork I still feel the same. I was shocked that The Force Awakens did not have a single scene with the original cast together. Now that opportunity will never come. Your doc did a good job of showing the fan reaction. I realize that SW is no longer for me.
ComicBook Ninja but maybe in time
So sad to see how much hope and passion everyone, the fans, the actors and people working on the production, had for this new trilogy when it began, only for it to be thrown away and replaced with disappointment, bitterness and sorrow.
As is life
How did it even come to this? Why did these people who took charge of Star Wars make such bad choices in making the sequel trilogy?
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@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer I've been following Mike zeroh and I hear that Disney is now working on damage control and now acting out of desperation making big plans to bring the Star Wars fandom back together with new content along with the films TV shows and books that take place away from the Skywalker Saga and will expand the universe of Star Wars and show new and exciting Mysteries and aspects of a force like we've never seen before, the latest that I've heard about recently revolving around the subject is that they are working on something called project luminous which will be announced sometime soon.
Good thing it's just a movie.
Nothing is better than the (1977) original ✨ Star Wars and (1980) Empire Strikes Back 💫✨ "Originals"
2 years later this is still a phenomenal work of art - thank you for all you do for all us fans
Thanks brother. :)
this video on par with the original 3 star wars films.
💯
Every trailer reaction ever: staring intently. When final reveal comes up, we see shock and awe in reactee. Then here comes the asinine statement declaring some superior wordage about the trailer, like “best trailer ever!” “That was intense!” ‘Oh My F&@$ing God!” It’s so formulaic it doesn’t matter if there is one person or 50. Same reactions every time.
These movies aren't cannon. Undoing Vader's sacrifice proves it.
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Yeah, the villains were wasted in these films.
Even ignoring Kylo, they should’ve made Snoke either Darth Plagus, or, as suggested in a rewrite by the youtuber Uniquenameosaurus, have him be a Kaminoan who made the clone gene, and had cloned himself over and over again, hence his deformities and disabled facial appearance.
Hell, building off that idea, I would say he could’ve figured out how to clone himself in a way that gave him a high midhichlorian count so that we can explain his force powers.
And if they REALLY wanted to bring Palpatine back, USE THE VEIL OF THE FORCE FROM REBELS TO GET HIM BACK AND HAVE HIM BE THEIR FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE TRILOGY. But no, how dare we respect the fans of the cartoons, even though we still try to suck money out of them with the force ghosts of Adi Galia and Kanan and Ahsoka, even though she’s not dead, and...GAH!!!
So Star Wars legends where Palpatine also comes back multiple times isn’t canon then
@@teamtundra2619 Palpatine coming back was dumb no matter where it happened
So much respect for Mark Hamill. In this world of corporate hacks selling nostalgia bait to shallow, obediently consuming manchildren, he's a shining beacon speaking out for actual quality. It's rare that an actor actually embodies the hero they play irl, but he should definitely be considered one, because it's not easy or risk free to speak out against the corrupt all-engulfing Disney system.
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Gave a like big star wars fan but MH is full of BS he was happy to be in that mess money dont blame him but covering up why what a wimp
Hell yeah. I really truly can't believe we had to live long enough to see hands down the most iconic and best loved sci fi get destroyed by what was once a company based on bringing magic to life for children but is now literally The empire. Disney traveling through space rounding up all our favorite Heros (movies,) and if not outright killing them. doing these horrific experiments on them until you no longer recognize em.
@@eclark3849 I know Clark Its awful and disgusting, How dare Mark Hamill have to pay his bills and support his family. What a monster amirite?
Imagine how degrading is for them finally sign for long awaited sequels and later be forced to destroy beloved characters 🤦
RIP Star Wars 1977-2012. We love you and we’ll miss you, always
At Least We Still Have GODZILLA ‼️
Whenever I see that scene with Kathleen saying that she was going to protect George Lucas' characters, I want to scream -- LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!
true!
“You were the Chosen One!” 💀
She made movies with terrible other characters in, there by making George's seem better in comparison.
After last Jedi I felt like Padma to Anakin in ep 3! Your breaking my heart Star Wars your going down a path I can not follow!
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Even though I hate ep IX I love that one fan's emotional reaction to the trailer, he's so precious I hope he's doing well
We laugh at his blubbering but I respect him for leaving the comments on. He may have cried at a movie trailer but he knew it was ridiculous and didn't hide under a rock or cower away
@@LostOneOmega Who's "we"?
21:22 "This is the best fan family in the world, man..." This sentiment of his aged like whole milk, didn't it?
When you turn on the fans, they turn on you....
Still can’t get over what Disney have done.
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Glad to hear there are others who hate and will never forgive Disney's treatment of Star Wars
I was 5 years old and saw Star Wars on opening day in 1977. To this day I can remember hearing the music, seeing the opening crawl, and being terrified when Vader first appeared (cut me some slack, I was 5). It was the first and only time I have been in a theater where the entire audience, every man, woman, and child literally stood and applauded at the end of the movie.
I have been there on opening night for every Star Wars movie but episode 9. Luke Skywalker is the greatest hero created in my lifetime and since the end of Return of the Jedi I have waited to see Luke as a full fledged Jedi Master.. I AM STILL WAITING.
I think you did a great job on this documentary, it's well put together, and Doomcock does a great job narrating.
That being said I don't think I can watch it again for a while. It just hurts too much, I know that may sound strange.
The first 6 movies told perhaps the greatest story in cinematic history. They changed not just my life but millions of lives.
Disney for whatever reason decided to destroy Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Princess Leia on purpose. I can't fathom why but it's obvious they did. It just makes me sick, sad, and angry all at once.
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I would love to know your thoughts of Luke in the Mandalorian?
I was also 5 when the original was released...but am surprised you hold the prequels as a worthy addition to the Star Wars story.
It lacked everything the originals had, from the casting to the directing it missed the mark on so many levels.
@@gm2407 Me personally enjoy them
@@dimirockeropoulos6104 Disney did such a bad job the prequels are now watchable.
Three things we didn't get in the sequel trilogy that is a criminal misuse of the property:
1. A treatment of Luke, Leia, and Han that respects their arcs and contributions from the original trilogy and actually gives them a scene together.
2. Luke's Jedi Academy and the presence of many Jedi and other force users, which would be the only logical extension of Luke having such an Academy.
3. Any amount of logical world building to explain the state of the galaxy, the New Republic, and the Imperial Remnants. The fact that the First Order in The Force Awakens is actually more powerful than the Empire was in Return of the Jedi is simply not an acceptable extension of the franchise and fundamentally damages the story of the previous 6 films.
The original music still stirs something in me that makes me feel like a kid.
There is no greater sorrow, then to recall all our times of joy and wretchedness
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Echo Base Network My contempt for this farce trilogy only deepens ( not that I sit in my lair stewing on it. I would like mandalorian to be the reboot that it may shape up to be.) I still am amazed that disney would allow this to come to be. Since money is the goal and marvel had set a new standard the arrogance at lucasfilms is beyond all comprehension. Even I whom isn't as deep into the lore i.e. eu etc. Could have easily written a better episode 7. I've written an xmen comic that won't be published, a star trek series of books that also won't be published. Not that they are some kind of kink or fedish books but because they use logic and core story telling principles and won't fit into this sjw/woke/ hate whitey💩
Jar jars retardation has spawned a Spider-Man comic that is under production. That if the timing works, will be released at my local con in May (under instructional purposes only)😉
My biggest problem like the reason I stopped watching tv was the disgust over what was being offered. Plots SO STUPID/BAD that I would have the whole thing dissected and explained to my family with only the cold opening as my information. I would be proven RIGHT so I stopped watching. People are getting paid GOOD money to produce 💩, SMH.
I do enjoy that once 9 bombed that no one wants to talk about it (entertainment industry) we must not forget and never let it happen again. Retroblasting has done some great stuff about these new fans.
I'll be around and hope to see you guys Saturday show.
Good luck
God bless
And GO team VENTURE!!!
Echo Base Network I went on and on and on and didn't answer everything. I loved the documentary. You should do an update with the gang. Star wars may...be on a good course...maybe. They are being inappropriate with the corpse of star trek and doctor who. The sjws have killed comic in a similar manner. There is so much material that you can pull from. I personally would like an update on the three horsemen kk, jar jar and roundhead. And see the after math in 6mobths or so. 👍
"How to destroy a successful franchise? A - Sell it to Disney. B - Hire JJ Abrams. C - All of the above."
Notice how at 26:20 Kathleen Kennedy interrupts Mark Hamill to keep him from giving away the fact that she PISSED on Luke Skywalker.
The more one learns about JJ Abrams, the more twisted it is to see him do or say anything. I'm starting the documentary right now so I don't know how much it covers this, but learning about what he did behind closed doors and lying about it is disgusting!
personally, ill absolutely never consider this bullsht trilogy canon- never. but youve put together a brilliant synopsis of the nightmare disney boldly calls star wars. and i love how it closes with mauler, no one couldve summed it up better.
Oh yes it is Canon.
Why would I skip it?
Yeah and it will be eventually liked.
@@achaudhari101 It will be eventually forgotten.
Nah. No one is ever really gone.
I’m trying to forget these movies. There are only 6 Star Wars movies. They ended in 2005 with Episode III - a fantastic movie, by the way.
I can be convinced to include Rogue One in addition to the original 6.
There's only four for me. The OT and ROGUE ONE.
@@zippymufo9765 Agreed. Rogue One -> ROTJ is all I need. The prequels are far more sufferable than the hot garbage sequel trilogy from Disney (or Solo …) 😒
@@kierenmoore3236 Yeah, I didn't care for any of the prequels or sequels. They both go to extremes----the prequels were so determined to not do fan service or make the obvious decisions. Starting with Anakin as a kid was a horrible misstep----he needed to be the same age as Padme so their relationship could start, because that was more important than his leaving his mother. Besides, even if he was 14-15, he'd still be upset at leaving his Mom in slavery.
Then the sequels went to the opposite extreme and were about giving fans what they wanted. You still need to have a decent story and characters, and none of these films had that.
There's also 40 years of books. I'm currently rereading the Rogue Squadron series by Michael A. Stackpole and Aaron Allston.
I grew up watching the prequel trilogy. It's my introduction to Star Wars so i really loved it. I also watched the original 2D clone wars series and played many Star wars games on PlayStation. This was my childhood. It took me years to realize that there were problems with it specially comparing them to the original trilogy. But i still love them. Now watching Disney's star Wars reinforces my bias that the prequels is a great piece of science fiction storytelling and one of the best series of all times. The sequel trilogy is miles behind the prequels and even light years behind the original.
Thank you for making this video btw. New subscriber here.
That’s really interesting. I grew up watching the originals, so those are my natural bias over the prequels-shaped somewhat also by all the Internet hate around them (Mr. Plinkett and People Vs. George Lucas) It’s fascinating to see the prequels get new love now that this Disney trash is out. George Lucas must be laughing all the way from his Laz-E-Boy sofa in Skywalker Ranch
@@mariecarie1 Yes, very interesting! I also grew up on the originals, and really did not like the prequels that much. (Although Darth Maul was spectacular!) After the Disney films came out, I was blown away by how bad a movie could actually be. My petty critiques of the prequels were nothing compared to how much I despised the Disney Fan fiction.
@@mariecarie1 Thank you for understanding. Sometimes it's really about a matter of perspectives. I was just a young kid back then, genuinely in awe of the vast universe of star wars and its effect on my imagination was wild that it still drives me nuts to this day. I still think that for the most part, Lucasfilm handled the prequels quite well specially Revenge of the sith.
But now just imagine all the kids these days who are growing up watching the sequel trilogy. They might love it given the naive minds that they have. But we're the ones matured enough who know how subpar it is in terms of quality. I'm just here sighing in disappointment and helplessness.
Don't be ashamed to love the prequels. I'm an OT kid who grew up in the 90s with the greatness of the originals, and then was lucky to still be young to really enjoy some of the magic that truly is there in the prequels too. They're not perfect. They have some really off moments, but there's a lot to like there as well and it was always more a trend than an objective opinion to hate on the prequels. They're solid movies and still lots of fun to watch. One thing they do infinitely better than the OT are the lightsaber duels. They're insanely epic.
The irony of The Force Awakens is that it actually put me to sleep in the theatre. Not kidding.
So Angry Joe initally hated TLJ, walked back & liked it, & now he hates it again...lmao
Like a revolving door
Follows the money
Shawn C
It’s not cool to like it.
They’re all incapable of making up their own minds.
What happened to ‘meh’, I got get dinner ready for my kids’. Kids who incidentally would love it.
@@nealmceneaney3771 unfortunately 'meh' doesn't get views
I mean what do you expect the guy is a Disney shill to the fullest. He sucks almost every MCU movie off that comes out even if most of them are trash.
Unlike the so called “sequel trilogy”, this documentary was wonderful.
And also, unlike the “sequel trilogy”, I will be watching this multiple times.
It was a glorious and beautiful eulogy...
at a closed casket funeral..
For the gruesome desecration and murder of Star Wars...
So beautifully put!!
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Echo Base Network no, thoughts haven’t changed on the so called “sequel trilogy” (I like to pretend it is nothing more than the haphazardly discarded fan fiction that it is). Your documentary however, was fantastic.
Jessidiah Springfield yes Garbage will always be Garbage..sadly and happily to say I have no desire to ever see them again! you can put Star Wars on something and it's still not Star Wars....what they did they should be utterly ashamed but we all know better!😡
Doomcock broadcasting from Mr. Plinkett’s basement? Love it.
I appreciate the sequels for one reason: They showed the world how GOOD the prequels actually were. And I saw TFA 5 times in theaters! I saw the other 2 movies once a piece in theaters. Those movies were indigestible. Oh, and Rogue One is the BEST Star Wars movie since the Originals!!
The Prequels are the best Star Wars
This movie is the "WAKE" of Star Wars... we're here to pay our last respects...
Nah its alive
Some guys made the SC 38 remaster Obi-wan-Vader-duel from a New Hope last year!
I hope one day they can make a whole new trilogy with that perfected technology about Luke, Leia and the others!
@@Angyali: I think you mean this one:
ua-cam.com/video/to2SMng4u1k/v-deo.html
Only thing, what does "SC 38" refer to?
You sound like a prequel hater in 2004 Star Wars isn’t going anywhere dude
@@brendanbelman893 I love the prequels do you
20:58
It's honestly very weird hearing people unironically cheer for the introduction of Kathleen Kennedy, if only they knew what was to come
LOL I know right. SMH
Kathleen Kennedy was an old Lucasfilm hand with a solid reputation. Only after she was given control did it become clear she is a woman of limited ability who works well only under competent leadership with close supervision
@@MrJeffcoley1 That's because she had a different agenda... putting girls on Tshirts telling you female is the future BS told you a lot about her objective! What better way to pave the road by first destroying the legacy the male characters had represented in this iconic movie!
Mark Hammil held back better than I would have in those interviews.
Maybe he was contractually obligated to bite his tongue.
I don't know anything about Star Wars. I've only seen 2 of the films. But the painful downfall of a series which everyone seems to love so much really fascinates me.
Mark Hamill to Roundhead Johnson :
"I'm so surprised in how you see Luke"
Mark Hamill giving his greatest, soul wrenching heartbreaking performance *for little did the fans know.*
Agree. Mark Hamill's best work (even in Eps 4-6) has always been in his voice. I've heard even the truest ST fans mock some of his line readings; but they were always on point to me - and IMO the box office and longevity of the fandom prove it. (As does his post-SW career as a voice actor. Just nailing the Joker would be enough for most careers.) He has great voice control, is my point, and knew _exactly_ what he was doing in all those pre-TLJ interviews . . . all those answers where it seemed like the _way_ he answered the questions hinted at the disaster to come. That s**t was _intentional._ In the very act of performing his contractually required TLJ-promoting shuck-and-jive, he left no doubt how he really felt. As inappropriate as the comparison might be, the similarity to Cmndr. Denton blinking _TORTURE_ on that North Vietnamese broadcast is hard to get away from.
I've gotten pretty sick of Hamill's politics; I'm sorry, I wish I could say otherwise, but three years of punching down at working-class voters is about my limit. (Reading Trump tweets in the Joker's voice? So classy. Hope none of your fans voted for . . . know what: do it. Let the anger flow through you; speak your truth; kick those fans in the teeth, if that's your truth; new rules; you're right; they're wrong; that's it. Right? You do you. I give up.) But that horrible face he made as Kathleen Kennedy. cut him off to lie about how vital Luke was to Eps. 7-9 . . . he looked like a dammed soul who thought he was going to heaven and just lost his last appeal to St. Pete, and I felt so sorry for him.
@@donweatherwax9318 Mark Hamill should never have signed on. That is something I still cannot begin to understand.
@@Khultan I believe he did it for the fans, he seems to genuinely loves bringing them joy. He also signed on before Disney bought Lucas Films, so he probably thought he would work with George as his director.
@@Slemme24He had not signed up for Disney Corporation. He was not obligated to Disney Corporation, to Bob Iger, to Kathleen Kennedy.
The themes that were Star Wars in the original trilogy, everyone betrayed.
George Lucas should have had better insight and judgement after all he's been through and he failed.
Even worse the original cast failed to stand by George Lucas in his crisis.
Starting with Carrie Fisher RIP the foolishness she did is extremely disappointing, she should have known better.
Mark Hamill should have stood by George Lucas' side. He failed to. Fool.
Harrison Ford, another fool.
Anthony Daniels. Fool.
Kenny Baker RIP Fool.
Peter Mayhew RIP Fool.
Billy Dee Williams Fool.
Ian McDiarmid Fool.
John Williams Fool.
Lawrence Kasdan Fool.
Doug Chiang Fool.
Ewan McGregor FOOL.
You 'fans' are ....*FOOLS*
*"Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"*
I absolutely despise Disney Corporation, however, I was willing to offer acknowledgement if they actually merit it for they had bought Marvel Comics and seemed to have done something right with that franchise.
I did see The Force Awakens and although I was curious how it would look and play out there were some interesting things visually and conceptually, namely the passage of time and the aftermath of a galaxy spanning war. My contempt only grew seeing the resurrection of concepts lifted up from the OT.
I went to see The Last Jedi to see what this other director would bring. I nearly walked from the theater.
Then I found out that George Lucas had written detailed ideas on the sequels and that Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy lied to him and rejected them.
I ignored The Rise Of Skywalker.
And J.J. Abrams proved himself to be a gutless, nonsensical, unimaginative, hollow, disrespectful, incompetent, hack and liar.
It really hurts me watching Mark's interviews and I'm absolutely crushed. Luke's character has suffered so much tonal whiplash in this trilogy and for me the saga ends on Endor..
Star Wars Fans:
"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would preserve the sequels, not destroy them! Bring balance to the franchise... not leave it in darkness!"
Kathleen Kennedy [shouts]:
" I HATE YOU!"
Lmfao
You were my sister, Kathleen...i loved you...
Love how ben shapiro had me dying with "camel-horse-dog" lmao
Absolute professional perfection. Outstanding documentary, well worth watching, saving and promoting!! Bravo 👏
Wow, thank you!
Rian Johnson: You are the best fan base!
Rian Johnson: Toxic fans!
I think Mark Hamill will always be considered as having fallen on the right side of things after all was said and done with these movies. Luke Skywalker? Not so much, unfortunately. But at least Mark kept it real on a personal level.
I'm currently watching this fantastic documentary for a 3rd time.
It's a shame there's so much more love in this video than the entire sequel trilogy that destroyed the franchise we loved for 50 years.
This franchise isn’t destroyed yet. Disney’s trying their best, but it’s not dead yet.
@@mariecarie1 The Skywalker saga is over, it was stolen by a Palpatine.
25:23 I think this is what a lot of people miss about the Force Awakens. JJ thought so little of Luke and relegated him to a hermit. It was where it all started. It ruined the original trilogy characters by regressing them and invalidating their past victories. It brought back the empire and gave us a Vader clone. There was no world building and if you think of the end of 6 and beginning 7 it doesn't make sense. Leah became a failed general and Han left his family to be a smuggler. JJ is at the heart of this problem. But everyone pins it on Rian who had to pick up the mess JJ created. He made a bunch of mystery boxes that would not lead to anything interesting. Because we were rehashing everything.
But it's easy to make it all about The Last Jedi.
or be a realist, they are all terrible and uncreative hacks.
It’s amazing to see how tFA was marketed and received initially. I won’t pretend I wasn’t fooled myself, but when you realize how deceptive JJ was from the start is really almost sinister. You can see that the story was pretty much inconsequential. This is a trilogy created by committee.
It’s actually the worse of the threee.
"I'm not a committee!"
-JJ Abrams
JJ screwed up Star Trek royally.
@jefffuller9918 Ikr? He had never watched a single episode of TOS, and it really showed. What was Disney thinking?
I was cringing and laughing at the trailer from the start. Someone put out a Force Awakens Special Edition spoof trailer and it was spot on in terms of the quality of the sequels.
I wish the disney space movie's were as great as this documentary. This is fantastic, well done everyone.
Think you might be able to tinker around and fix it up for us? Cable tie here, a few household chemicals there. Come on man, you can get it done.....
@@mattp6089 there is some things even macgyver can't fix. lol
@@macgyver4269 There's only things that Mac hasn't yet fixed! None that he can't fix.
@@mattp6089 lol
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When Luke threw lightsaber and stormed off ...He wasn't acting.. That's exactly how he felt about these movies and so did I
I remember The Last Jedi toy sales not doing well and contributing to the fall of Toys R Us. Their closing felt like the final nail in the coffin for me and Star Wars. It was all just sad.
I never found many Action Figures from the Sequel Trilogy. But I have found lots for the Mandolorian and Obi-Wan.
@@seanstoyroom7274 Well, that's good. I collected everything I could from episodes 1-6. While The Clone Wars tv series had its fans, I felt it was diluting the 'event' that the movies provided. It never made sense to me that Ahsoka was never mentioned in the films, or that Darth Maul survived. So I was already realizing that the story was being changed for money. Then Disney bought it, and changed everything story-wise. In my heart, Anakin was the chosen one and the story ended with Return of the Jedi. If a good story doesn't have an ending, then it's all about the money and becomes less about the story. 1-6 tells a good story. Everything else....Ahsoka and Rey were for bringing in girl money. If the story was about them from the beginning, I could have embraced it. Anyway, things have changed. Han is considered a toxic male, now, a deadbeat father. Star Wars was cool, particularly for young men, because kids used to want to soup up cars and be independent (carry a gun and have a dog as a companion). Everything that made Star Wars heroic is considered toxic, now. It's something I've noticed, so I had to walk away from it. The Last Jedi had so much political garbage in it, that I had to quit for good. They wanted to throw men under the bus (the fanbase) and prop up girls, but the girls didn't buy their toys, and it made a lot of the men walk away. I'm glad you like the the new series, but it's just not for me because Star Wars is just not awesome, anymore.
Disney Trilogy is NOT a Sequel Trilogy.
It is a bad reboot.
Fix Ipszikon its a sequal trilogy whetever you like it or not
@@@ikoandreas5085
Only legally.
Contentwise it is not.
Whatever you like it or not.
And people with a brain shall never accept some shit labeled something else.
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Fix Ipszikon *bad robot 🤖
It doesn't matter if they (Disney) made Rise of Skywalker a great instalment to finish off the series; The Last Jedi STILL HAPPENED! We're still stuck with that stink pile as an instalment and that's the problem. The prequels are different because they're the backstory to the original trilogy; we still started off with the original trilogy and that's why the prequels don't ruin the originals. This new trilogy is both Official Canon and the events happening after the original trilogy. That's what makes the new trilogy far more frustrating and depressing than the prequels could ever be.
Also, the character of Finn was a huge letdown. I feel bad for the actor. He was sold a role that wasn’t at all important!
Turned into a cheap comedy skit.
Finn sucked, Ray is awful, glad Han is dead, and Luke should have killed himself in this franchise what was the point of his character?? What was the point of this movie. SOLO is the only film I actually liked...but at this point who fucking cares!!!
@@mioryderoncgnp1589 Comedic relief and to uplift Rey to make her look strong and competent.
This. I would have loved to watch a trilogy with Finn as the main character and no Rey in sight. Imagine a story that could be told with a force sensitive former storm trooper stumbling his way into becoming a Jedi and saving the galaxy with Luke in the Yoda role. That would have been an awesome story with an great character and a good actor with a level of comedic timing that impressed the hell out of me. It would have been the right story with the right character and the right actor. Sadly we will never get that. Disney did Finn dirty.
Yeah, they fucked him over good. They promised him a serious big role and he got shit. But really, nobody got a good role out of it.
You know, I saw this a few months ago and I pointed out an error. But I never commented on the overall video--it's very well put together. And it points out the major flaws, the fan reactions, the shift in responsibility (apparently, it's the fans' fault for not liking crappy movies), and how badly of a franchise killer this was. I really liked this documentary and think you did a fine job. And despite the one little thing I had commented on previously, I really appreciate you taking the time to show Mark Hamill's disappointment, because I've been a fan of Luke and Mark since I was 9. Thanks.
Disney turned me from a 40 year Star Wars fan into someone who no longer cared about that galaxy far far way. Good job.👍
better than the precuels....... ja ja ja
what prequels done? give context to the rise of the empire, show the fall of anakin skywalker, introduce a lot of new worlds like naboo, curuscant,geonosis,camino,mustafar even the concep of the sith was an all new way to see those jedi who fell to the dark side. and finally the prequel trilogy makes the original trilogy even better.
what sequels done? first a remake of episode 4 that establishes broken new characters, second a middle finger on the face of the fans and his beloved legacy characters, three prostitution of the force and what it means, finally the complete destruction of the canon and the two most important characters for the complete saga luke and anakin. the sequel trilogy just trashes the original trilogy.
not to mention palpatine himself. I actually liked rise of skywalker particularly after the 2nd viewing because I could take in the movie and they did right wrongs but the problem is there was too many. basically rian Johnson f**d everything up but 3 major issues. 2 have to do with palpy. 1. he died, he was a 90 year old crippled man, strong with the force yes, but he was thrown int o what appears to be the nuclear core of the death star which was like 100 miles deep and a nuclear reactor the size of the great mall of America or bigger. then like 3 minutes later something that massive blew up whichbeing in the middle of it would have vaporized every single atom of his body so even if his essence wsa there, it can't be a body. also, he would have been 90 years old when rey's father was born. or at least 80 or so close to 90. if anything he could be her great great grandfather, not grandfather, no way . also, the sattleite disk shaped thing on the DS2 was larger then and wider than the executor which is like 12-14 miles long, which meant the piece of the death star on endor was way too small
this comment needs 10000000000000000 thumbs up, really does
Okay but the prequels have some of the worst directing, dialogue, CGI, and plot in cinema from the 2000s.
Ep 1 and 2 in particular are just boring with very few bright spots.
The original trilogy is so good because George was helped by writers and producers who kept his ideas in check. Also, he never directed 5 and 6.
I am all for finding faults in the sequel trilogy (lack of planning and production drama), but it doesn't suddenly make the prequels amazing.
@@alejandrobonfil2818 the prequels are not amazing... The way they expanded the star wars universo is the good thing about them.
@@asier6964 yeah sure but I just think they are super boring and have horrible acting. Which is a shame because it's full of amazing actors.
So really it all comes down to Lucas' directing and bad writing.
Incredible documentary. Thank you everyone who was apart of this. Words can’t do justice for this documentary. Thank you.
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Goerge Lucas's Star Wars will always be Canon with the Fans. 🌌♥️
Star Wars = I - VI