For what i heard of some old players of this class, maybe just the DP, in that way you can focus less on build dp and more in the AP numbers (and some of accuracy). And shes doesn't bad, she has been forgotten by the company to focus on new classes and attract new audiences (I think many classes are at this point. That's also why zerker is so important to them, he must attract a lot of audiences just like Shai). IDK i stop playing a year ago(a little more) because i dont really feel some content on end game. More DP and AP for grind more? I can do that in warframe and with better options, even on dofus. I think is something about corean games this about try to fix the balance in "life with play" using market and sandbox mechanics. This is attractive at the start, but after some time its feels like a bucle.
Hey Quendya, wanted to say that i and many other appreciate the class tier lists and it makes us aware of our current classes so we can do something else to improve it. (Suggesting a feedback to PA). As always there are active "I am smarter then you" dented toxic player who can't coexist in proper system. Forget them and remember us who appreciate your hardwork
12:02 this is so frustrating really been playing Drak Awakening PvE only since her release i enjoy the class but it feels so bad knowing you basically grief yourself playing something you prefer gameplay-wise
NGL one thing I would argue with is the idea that "class masters" are objectively the best people to ask on their class performance, yes they spend the most time on them and know the class the best at a technical level but they are also unironically going to be the most biased people for their classes, whether though lack of experience in other classes for an objective comparison, under selling their class because of personal gripes, over hyping their class from sunken cost fallacy and many other reasons that can skew their perspective on the objective performance of their class.
Their opinion is only one of the metrics. Like it or not a class master will likely deliver the best possible results for the class and we can use that unbiased information to form our own opinion. Especially for pve with easy to track metrics like tph
Right, would you rather a noob with biases rank them? Lol. Everyone has biases, at least these people have played the class extensively. Take the information with a grain of salt and try them yourself with a tag.
will always be true but it is pretty damn close to being objective in terms of "objective" simply being agreeable with the widest range of the playerbase as possible so there will always be outliers it is especially true to take it as a pinch of salt for the high skill ceiling classes since what someone can accomplish on it can vastly vary - but outside of like drakania a lot of the high skill ceiling classes actually performing for their time investment like awa sorc and awa nova is basically the ideal state of balance imo
@@tipertubavga Dosa S tier, Mystic Lower S tier or Higher A. Striker B (and i'm being generous) Wizard Low A. This tierlist is outdated af. I would say that currently Top 5 classes are Dosa, Sorc, Shai (for group content), Gunner (Fotm) and Ninja suc. All other classes doesnt even come close. Nowdays there is 3 important things for PVE. Iframes, constant dps and frontal guard. If the class can be perma iframing, with good dps and frontal guard/SA its considered S class. Nova awakening, Witch succ and Succ Lahn used to be S tier, nowdays they are nowhere close to be in that position. Endgame is D2 Oluns, D2 Ash Forest and Darkseeker.
@@tipertubavga they used to be an S tier if you consider jade forest, gyfin under and old dehkia spots as endgame, lol. That tierlist is at least year old. I remember watching it a year ago...
Indeed, your awakened drakania may feel difficult sometimes, overwhealming even, for those used to faceroll in the keyboard, but as long as you don't have to deal with unprotected gaps, like some of the balanced classes, you really can't complain. Nice video tho. Cheers!
For PVE we can judge by trash/hr for spot to spot For PVP it's not matter since the class divide into group PvP and 1 vs 1 or 3 vs 3 there will never be exact tierlist but ppl make the tierlist is base on their OPINION, if u think ur OPINION better than the master class when they facing their opponent to make this tierlist then u don't question their tierlist just make your own tierlist dude
@@lockedbill4942 What does pvp have to do with it at all? And if you judge by the trash, the same succ ranger makes results on par with many classes on spots like dark seekers or golems t2 but she in "C" tier in endgame.
Nice content as always, GJ😙. But I also kind of want to see data, you know, some people in the community like to post wrong opinions without any basis, which makes me suspicious.
At the same time, i understand that giving a sheet or data resource means lots more work behind the screen . It's 100% fine u do not publish one, keep up the good work boss.
Thank you! Very useful guide and explanation of classes performance, but let me say something. You said. 3 months to endgame from the very beginning? Hardly! Please, be more reasonable. Idc if you can do it and some other MMO experienced (but beginner in BDO) player can do it (and maybe live normal life at the same time), but most of players just can't.
if endgame is considered 300+ap thats vry much doable in 3-4months as a new player that has ofc a little bit of time to spare lets say 2-3hrs a day is honestly enough, u get handed so much free things over the last months its insane how fast u get to 700+gs
Just started playing the game a couple days ago, i started with deadeye but i love the aestheitcs for drak,would you not recommend this class for a noob?
Ty for the content Kaptan. If yall read this comment and you think ur main class has higher position than ur opinion dont worry. It's cuz of prolly skill issues xD
i love high ceiling classes so drakania is something i've taken an interest in but it seems to be shit in pve historically speaking, is the main return of investment for drakania skill progression then mostly seen from pvp? i recall from the 2023 ultimate pvp tier list you made that drakania had great ranking placements across the whole board but as a relatively new player i am unsure if the balance of the game can be representative from that list considering the time that has passed since cheers for this video and your explanations o7
As an archer main, it's hard to explain to my guild that the class is not trash outside of group PvP. Just... yeah... a menace to your fingers after 2h of playing intensely.
He is S tier trash loot wise. His main point is damage and your aoe is locked behing serpent coil (helicopter). He is lacking a bunch of stuff, but was never bad. - a class master
I think people consider Lahn as a kind of taboo. She is easy to play, therefor they want to assume all Lahn players must be bad players. I also see a lot of them assume that Lahn players are jerks or know it alls for some reason. Lahn players also tend to be shamed by being called "gooners" or told that they just want to play the "stripper class". Even though, Sorc, Deadeye, and DK all have equally as skimpy a wardrobe. Even Guardian has some super skimpy outfits. Anyway, I think it is juvenile. Just play the class you enjoy imho. I like Lahn because she is easy and enjoyable to play. I like both her awakening and succession kit and play both. I like her weapons, her animations, her backstory. Also, blackstar weapons look like they were made for her. I also love her mobility and like the fact I can move around the map so easily with her.
I use your Tier Lists routinely, and I like them. But I do take issue with you saying your Tier List is the best. You've not provided the names of your class masters and, most importantly, your analysis is not quantitative, it's qualitative. If you are looking to do the best and greatest Tier List for BDO, I would like to see some numbers. If these class masters of yours can pull at least 10 hours of grind data for you to centralize and rank classes accordingly, we can talk about a best Tier List.
check the tier list from 11 month ago he mention the class masters, and that's the original tier list where he explain every note for every class, every video after this one are just update
Little bit of clarification. Awake ninja WAS a bad class in pve since the beginning of the game that's why it still has a kind of etiquette of being dogshit. However currently, in end game it's a very good class in low density area such as DSR, Cyclops etc.. Second issue is, succession ninja is busted af, so most of the time ninjas compare their awk trash loot to their succ trash loot and ye in that case you'll notice a pretty big gap
@@Quendya skill issues diyelim o zaman ya da kolay olduğu için tercih ediliyor sanırım, ben de awk witch mainlemeye çalışıyorum, senin de meta dışı karakteri mainlemen takdire şayan.
I took some time to understsnd too. And now I'm a main succ witch and, indeed, she is broken. She has one of tbe best DPS with verry good aoe and infinity dashes for pve, and can agro more with the Red orb and kill safe. She is verry complet and strong
Вообще не понимаю. Зачем рассматривают раннею игру классы... Это Фаст споты и Фаст игра на сезоне,которая закрывается новичком за пару дней. И он уже будет иметь под 270 атаки. Зачем ранняя игра ,для кого она?) не понимаю.
The only thing i disagree with here is sage awakening, he's A tier at best even after the 4 AP and extra 10 DP shred they gave him. I can't even get close to the numbers my awakening Dosa pulls let alone my deadeye.
how is deadeye endgame not 10/10 when it pulls ~15% more trash than ANY other class? Darkseekers and d2 oluns are the only form of endgame right now and she outperforms every single class there by a mile. do you mind explaining?
He explain this in the video ... He is not looking for one spot performance is an overall of all spots 300ap +( and yes it is explain in the video too the end game is 300 ap+ ). If u look to tamer awk she is s+ in tungrad can make 40k more trash per hour, why tamer is not in s+ ? Because is an overall view not spot view
Its spot and gear dependent. It's almost like a better woosa situation. Succ woosa was pretty good everywhere, but the best at nowhere. Deadeye is similar situation, just better.
Either you're bullshitting hard or your friend is, but i won't believe for a second that your lahn friend pulls 37k(yellow+agris) at dsr at 320 ap. Absolute nonsense.
Its flawed when you use spots that actually only require 310 sheet ap and compare them to spots that needs 340+... Endgame spots from 2022 are not endgame spots in 2025.
There are no spots that require 340 AP. It's basically only Doluns2 and DSR. So unless you count only 2 spots of the entire game as "endgame", 310 spots are considered endgame.
@@aligr3224 No, endgame is not just 3 spots for less than 1% of the playerbase that is above 340 AP. We don't make end-game guides exclussively for 3 spots. In any guide you will find, any 310 zone is considered endgame.
The problem with that solution is then she become massively unbalanced in PvP, honestly many of the problems with PvE balancing inherently come from PvP balancing and PAs refusal to completely rework how class kits behave in PvE vs PvP scenarios.
@ It doesn't matter if it's boring or not, if it was good, people would play it just to pull numbers during grind, your argument is about as valid as your logic
@@Quendya Oh please stop talking about nerf. Duodecil has already posted a table showing that Marni bullets received a boost of +10%, and regular bullets nerf by -6%. There is already a video after updates with 52k trash 4tides, Lua 49k 3 tides. There are no other classes even close.
I feel like succ hash fell off a bit . In terms of late game aka doluns and dsr , dosa seems way better . Its not like he is bad but no where close to dosa level
Stop putting the sorceress in S+ tier, I don't know who is lying to you, but the class in all the important spots in the endgame, is average. Many people ask me about this class, because they have seen your videos, and I have to explain to them that you have no idea about this specific class. You mention videos, exactly where are these videos, I haven't seen any good, to be honest. The other classes in your list, I find them pretty close to reality. But the sorceress... Nah
hes right on succ ninja for PVE stier. Id honestly combat it with first place against any class. The apm is just too much though. a normal, below average, above average and a great player may not be able to perform with succ ninja. But the best players can, and they wil always out perform you. Succ ninja is truly the most underrated most broken PVE class in the game. But the play level is god tier
Overall yes, probably the best class in the game pve wise but you can always find something better since Deadeye patch. For mid game, nothing can compete with awk nova, for late game nothing can compete with deadeye. overall succ ninja is broken af ye but hardest class pve wise (harder than nova imo)
@@lenke9311 Theres a DSR succ ninja with 52k trash fam, thats living proof, its on the level other classes cant be. But it sso goddam unrealisticaly hard to play.
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Thanks for explaining the classes one by one. That was missing in the previous video about class tiers.
not sure if you missed it in the beginning but he addressed the reason why; it was because he had to commit to military service and had no time
@@ChilledoutDevil Yes, I know, I watched and listened to everything.
Maehwa Awakening needs MORE DMG\DPS. She's severely under tuned for end-game.
For what i heard of some old players of this class, maybe just the DP, in that way you can focus less on build dp and more in the AP numbers (and some of accuracy).
And shes doesn't bad, she has been forgotten by the company to focus on new classes and attract new audiences (I think many classes are at this point. That's also why zerker is so important to them, he must attract a lot of audiences just like Shai).
IDK i stop playing a year ago(a little more) because i dont really feel some content on end game.
More DP and AP for grind more? I can do that in warframe and with better options, even on dofus.
I think is something about corean games this about try to fix the balance in "life with play" using market and sandbox mechanics. This is attractive at the start, but after some time its feels like a bucle.
Buddy I used to play her 7 years ago. Believe me she’s never going to get love from PA
@@fpsoftdev what about ranger ?
@@fpsoftdev sad but true..
Would love to see you do one of your insane pvp tier lists! Obv, it's not as popping as it used to be. But there's been a lot of changes.
I am working on it
Great analysis!!! Hash , deadeye and nova hands down in this order is my most favorite classes in the game regardless of their placements.
Hey Quendya, wanted to say that i and many other appreciate the class tier lists and it makes us aware of our current classes so we can do something else to improve it. (Suggesting a feedback to PA).
As always there are active "I am smarter then you" dented toxic player who can't coexist in proper system. Forget them and remember us who appreciate your hardwork
I love how you explain Awk Woosa
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12:02 this is so frustrating really
been playing Drak Awakening PvE only since her release
i enjoy the class but it feels so bad knowing you basically grief yourself playing something you prefer gameplay-wise
NGL one thing I would argue with is the idea that "class masters" are objectively the best people to ask on their class performance, yes they spend the most time on them and know the class the best at a technical level but they are also unironically going to be the most biased people for their classes, whether though lack of experience in other classes for an objective comparison, under selling their class because of personal gripes, over hyping their class from sunken cost fallacy and many other reasons that can skew their perspective on the objective performance of their class.
just tag a class and try yourself tagging is almost free now
Their opinion is only one of the metrics. Like it or not a class master will likely deliver the best possible results for the class and we can use that unbiased information to form our own opinion. Especially for pve with easy to track metrics like tph
Right, would you rather a noob with biases rank them? Lol. Everyone has biases, at least these people have played the class extensively. Take the information with a grain of salt and try them yourself with a tag.
will always be true but it is pretty damn close to being objective in terms of "objective" simply being agreeable with the widest range of the playerbase as possible so there will always be outliers
it is especially true to take it as a pinch of salt for the high skill ceiling classes since what someone can accomplish on it can vastly vary - but outside of like drakania a lot of the high skill ceiling classes actually performing for their time investment like awa sorc and awa nova is basically the ideal state of balance imo
puting awakening Striker, Mystic, Wizard and Dosa in the same tier in the tierlist is.... wild to say the least. They are not even comparable.
out of curiosity, what would you rank then? perhaps striker and wizard A? dosa, mystic S?
@@tipertubavga Dosa S tier, Mystic Lower S tier or Higher A. Striker B (and i'm being generous) Wizard Low A.
This tierlist is outdated af.
I would say that currently Top 5 classes are Dosa, Sorc, Shai (for group content), Gunner (Fotm) and Ninja suc. All other classes doesnt even come close.
Nowdays there is 3 important things for PVE. Iframes, constant dps and frontal guard. If the class can be perma iframing, with good dps and frontal guard/SA its considered S class.
Nova awakening, Witch succ and Succ Lahn used to be S tier, nowdays they are nowhere close to be in that position.
Endgame is D2 Oluns, D2 Ash Forest and Darkseeker.
@@hitmanmmo7481 makes sense! thanks for your comments .. Just think nova, witch being far from S is bit exagerated though
@@tipertubavga they used to be an S tier if you consider jade forest, gyfin under and old dehkia spots as endgame, lol. That tierlist is at least year old. I remember watching it a year ago...
@@hitmanmmo7481yeah in regards to endgame his tier list is actually quite accurate then…
11:49 because awk lahn weapon and skill effects look cooler.
One of my favorite classes to play.)
Indeed, your awakened drakania may feel difficult sometimes, overwhealming even, for those used to faceroll in the keyboard, but as long as you don't have to deal with unprotected gaps, like some of the balanced classes, you really can't complain.
Nice video tho.
Cheers!
DK Succ - "S, if you can handle the class" 🤣🤣
How can class masters be objective if they haven't played other classes for long enough to compare them to others?
For PVE we can judge by trash/hr for spot to spot
For PVP it's not matter since the class divide into group PvP and 1 vs 1 or 3 vs 3 there will never be exact tierlist but ppl make the tierlist is base on their OPINION, if u think ur OPINION better than the master class when they facing their opponent to make this tierlist then u don't question their tierlist just make your own tierlist dude
@@lockedbill4942 What does pvp have to do with it at all? And if you judge by the trash, the same succ ranger makes results on par with many classes on spots like dark seekers or golems t2 but she in "C" tier in endgame.
Nice content as always, GJ😙. But I also kind of want to see data, you know, some people in the community like to post wrong opinions without any basis, which makes me suspicious.
At the same time, i understand that giving a sheet or data resource means lots more work behind the screen . It's 100% fine u do not publish one, keep up the good work boss.
Thank you! Very useful guide and explanation of classes performance, but let me say something. You said. 3 months to endgame from the very beginning? Hardly! Please, be more reasonable. Idc if you can do it and some other MMO experienced (but beginner in BDO) player can do it (and maybe live normal life at the same time), but most of players just can't.
Thanks
if endgame is considered 300+ap thats vry much doable in 3-4months as a new player that has ofc a little bit of time to spare lets say 2-3hrs a day is honestly enough, u get handed so much free things over the last months its insane how fast u get to 700+gs
Just started playing the game a couple days ago, i started with deadeye but i love the aestheitcs for drak,would you not recommend this class for a noob?
NO NO NOOO :D .. DOnt touch her.
Awk dosa is S + for me you have tankiness protected and buffs.
i agree with drakania succ he's DPS and CD mostly! CD
Ty for the content Kaptan.
If yall read this comment and you think ur main class has higher position than ur opinion dont worry. It's cuz of prolly skill issues xD
I totally agree. Probably i dont know how to play awk drak xD
@ I didn't mean you, I saw the "stop putting sorc s+" guy and told it. Otherwise we all know the Quendya is the sexiest drakania in the world(In game)
Yeah i know. Just kidding about drakania’s situation xdd
i love high ceiling classes so drakania is something i've taken an interest in
but it seems to be shit in pve historically speaking, is the main return of investment for drakania skill progression then mostly seen from pvp? i recall from the 2023 ultimate pvp tier list you made that drakania had great ranking placements across the whole board but as a relatively new player i am unsure if the balance of the game can be representative from that list considering the time that has passed since
cheers for this video and your explanations o7
As an archer main, it's hard to explain to my guild that the class is not trash outside of group PvP. Just... yeah... a menace to your fingers after 2h of playing intensely.
Like tamer after 2 hours
I see the beard slowly returning 👀
yeah
Does this tier list reflect the changes made to the awakening hashashin?
greetings.
He is S tier trash loot wise. His main point is damage and your aoe is locked behing serpent coil (helicopter). He is lacking a bunch of stuff, but was never bad. - a class master
I think people consider Lahn as a kind of taboo. She is easy to play, therefor they want to assume all Lahn players must be bad players. I also see a lot of them assume that Lahn players are jerks or know it alls for some reason. Lahn players also tend to be shamed by being called "gooners" or told that they just want to play the "stripper class". Even though, Sorc, Deadeye, and DK all have equally as skimpy a wardrobe. Even Guardian has some super skimpy outfits. Anyway, I think it is juvenile. Just play the class you enjoy imho. I like Lahn because she is easy and enjoyable to play. I like both her awakening and succession kit and play both. I like her weapons, her animations, her backstory. Also, blackstar weapons look like they were made for her. I also love her mobility and like the fact I can move around the map so easily with her.
I use your Tier Lists routinely, and I like them. But I do take issue with you saying your Tier List is the best. You've not provided the names of your class masters and, most importantly, your analysis is not quantitative, it's qualitative.
If you are looking to do the best and greatest Tier List for BDO, I would like to see some numbers. If these class masters of yours can pull at least 10 hours of grind data for you to centralize and rank classes accordingly, we can talk about a best Tier List.
check the tier list from 11 month ago he mention the class masters, and that's the original tier list where he explain every note for every class, every video after this one are just update
Then don't follow it :)
Awaking ninja s most people saying they low?
Little bit of clarification. Awake ninja WAS a bad class in pve since the beginning of the game that's why it still has a kind of etiquette of being dogshit. However currently, in end game it's a very good class in low density area such as DSR, Cyclops etc..
Second issue is, succession ninja is busted af, so most of the time ninjas compare their awk trash loot to their succ trash loot and ye in that case you'll notice a pretty big gap
berserker successionun S'te olmamasının sebebi nedir? sürekli end game oyuncuları berserker ile grindlarken görüyorum
DPS zayıf ve AoE kötü
@@Quendya skill issues diyelim o zaman ya da kolay olduğu için tercih ediliyor sanırım, ben de awk witch mainlemeye çalışıyorum, senin de meta dışı karakteri mainlemen takdire şayan.
Perfecto
Espresso
Warrior in S and A is so wrong for the end game PvE.
Ok
where would you rank the Warrior Succ?
@@Vangell1s I would give both succ and awakening just B. with same gear it cannot compete with Musa and Sage. That's for sure.
I like your lists, thank you for the content.
THANKS!!
ive seen awakening sorcs getting 50k trash in DSR. it's insane tbh. i can only manage around 26k
Witch and wizard succession what a different???
Valkyrie early game is not S tier. This is sad they nerfed our valk train. Quendya can you make a pve guide video for succ drak? after some buffS?
i love succ drak but until they fix ions its meh
Succ witch numbers are only good in darkseeker I don’t know how ppl put him S+ , only 3,4 players can do a good numbers with this class
Wdym, it's cracked at any spot that doesn't involve too much movement and you're just playing off of cooldowns, no real combos
I took some time to understsnd too. And now I'm a main succ witch and, indeed, she is broken. She has one of tbe best DPS with verry good aoe and infinity dashes for pve, and can agro more with the Red orb and kill safe. She is verry complet and strong
@@andyvelton1965 awakened witch is good too
Вообще не понимаю. Зачем рассматривают раннею игру классы... Это Фаст споты и Фаст игра на сезоне,которая закрывается новичком за пару дней. И он уже будет иметь под 270 атаки. Зачем ранняя игра ,для кого она?) не понимаю.
The only thing i disagree with here is sage awakening, he's A tier at best even after the 4 AP and extra 10 DP shred they gave him. I can't even get close to the numbers my awakening Dosa pulls let alone my deadeye.
her karakterle grind videoları attın bide sorcla atta tungrad ruins ve dark sekeers tan görelim ne kadar op bi karakter
how is deadeye endgame not 10/10 when it pulls ~15% more trash than ANY other class? Darkseekers and d2 oluns are the only form of endgame right now and she outperforms every single class there by a mile. do you mind explaining?
He explain this in the video ... He is not looking for one spot performance is an overall of all spots 300ap +( and yes it is explain in the video too the end game is 300 ap+ ). If u look to tamer awk she is s+ in tungrad can make 40k more trash per hour, why tamer is not in s+ ? Because is an overall view not spot view
Shhhhh, it doesn't
If you know that why are you still in the video?
Its spot and gear dependent. It's almost like a better woosa situation. Succ woosa was pretty good everywhere, but the best at nowhere. Deadeye is similar situation, just better.
It also just got nerfed by like 15%
Either you're bullshitting hard or your friend is, but i won't believe for a second that your lahn friend pulls 37k(yellow+agris) at dsr at 320 ap. Absolute nonsense.
Skill issue probably. Dont judge yourself.
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Its flawed when you use spots that actually only require 310 sheet ap and compare them to spots that needs 340+... Endgame spots from 2022 are not endgame spots in 2025.
There are no spots that require 340 AP. It's basically only Doluns2 and DSR. So unless you count only 2 spots of the entire game as "endgame", 310 spots are considered endgame.
@yotsuyu9524 they are the only spots considered endgame. Dash 2 included
@@aligr3224 No, endgame is not just 3 spots for less than 1% of the playerbase that is above 340 AP. We don't make end-game guides exclussively for 3 spots. In any guide you will find, any 310 zone is considered endgame.
@@yotsuyu9524 what are you yapping about? you dont define endgame from a balance of all the peoples gear. endgame is endgame and thats that..?
Succ range buff and rework next ball no doubt
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Give Awak-Drak healing and DR buff back so she can atleast be as tanky as my tamer x.x
xdd
The problem with that solution is then she become massively unbalanced in PvP, honestly many of the problems with PvE balancing inherently come from PvP balancing and PAs refusal to completely rework how class kits behave in PvE vs PvP scenarios.
Is deadeye still good after recent nerfs?
Shes amazing
She doing great
Succ warrior making it to S-tier is criminal brother💀
Succ warrior is s.. stop tryna be a victim lil bro
True.
@@greatheavens9272 Then why is nobody playing it?
@becz00niastream79 it's boring
@ It doesn't matter if it's boring or not, if it was good, people would play it just to pull numbers during grind, your argument is about as valid as your logic
Man I gotta tag a lahn but my main is DR
Awk striker need some buff
Give him another grab easy
I'm sorry but "has potential" and "able to max" sounds very far..
50k+ trash/hour on deadeye in DSR it`s only S tier?)) LUL
it was before nerf :), rn with an average luck, 45-46k. 1150AP+ with demihuman lightstone set.
@@Quendya Oh please stop talking about nerf.
Duodecil has already posted a table showing that Marni bullets received a boost of +10%, and regular bullets nerf by -6%. There is already a video after updates with 52k trash 4tides, Lua 49k 3 tides. There are no other classes even close.
@@donquixotedoflamingo3270 Akshually
@@donquixotedoflamingo3270 Lua had NW buff, +20 AP from sweet potato iirc and some other buffs. Regardless, you're right, it's still S+
Mediocre means terrible, I think you mean medium (apm). Thanks for the update!
Mediocre means average or slightly below average. not terrible..
@@D4JGaming007 You're right, terrible might've been too strong of a word
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I feel like succ hash fell off a bit . In terms of late game aka doluns and dsr , dosa seems way better . Its not like he is bad but no where close to dosa level
well at least Valk isnt in shit tier i guess :s
Feels like it though, PA please give us some love ffs
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that deadeye is not OP for pve? I closed the video instantly xdd
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I wouldn't call them god or goddesses instead call them top tier and just leave it at that. thanks
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Lahn is very squishy and not good for PVP . I think succ witch is the overall class in END GAME .
Using APM as a metric is a bit absurd.
We are not using it. in this video i just tried to explaint how hard the classes are
It's not absurd.
Stop putting the sorceress in S+ tier, I don't know who is lying to you, but the class in all the important spots in the endgame, is average. Many people ask me about this class, because they have seen your videos, and I have to explain to them that you have no idea about this specific class. You mention videos, exactly where are these videos, I haven't seen any good, to be honest. The other classes in your list, I find them pretty close to reality. But the sorceress... Nah
(: probably skill issue (:
there is a bunch of video in sorcerer discord that show the class is s+ in endgame u just pressing shit to slow or using a fucking outdated combo
you noob
hes right on succ ninja for PVE stier. Id honestly combat it with first place against any class. The apm is just too much though. a normal, below average, above average and a great player may not be able to perform with succ ninja. But the best players can, and they wil always out perform you. Succ ninja is truly the most underrated most broken PVE class in the game. But the play level is god tier
Overall yes, probably the best class in the game pve wise but you can always find something better since Deadeye patch. For mid game, nothing can compete with awk nova, for late game nothing can compete with deadeye. overall succ ninja is broken af ye but hardest class pve wise (harder than nova imo)
@@lenke9311 Theres a DSR succ ninja with 52k trash fam, thats living proof, its on the level other classes cant be. But it sso goddam unrealisticaly hard to play.
@@gmag15234 yeye ikr just saying deadeye is even stronger on dsr. Its not that hard combo wise it's mainly about movement tbf
rip my fave class valkyrie awakening....
Buff Awakening Gu 🫤