Big Thank You!! This was a big help. It allowed to replace a malfunctioning Schlage door knob and to move my old lock cylinder to my new properly functioning Schlage door knob. I therefore did not to have a locksmith re-key the new door knob. Mission accomplished.
I had the misfortune of trying to rekey this F series type of lock. I'm a beginner, but watched a lot of videos and had all the necessary tools. Where everything went wrong came even before I got to removing the cylinder from the knob. I heard a jingling noise and saw a tiny mushroom shaped pin drop out of the knob along with a spring. Apparently, the cap had come off the Bible and released the springs and pins beneath them. Since the cap was now off, the cylinder came out easily, as did the remaining 4 springs and pins. I carefully put them all back in and was able to recap the bible, but the tenuous way that cap was held on was a bit disconcerting. If it released it's grip, springs and pins would go flying. I carefully removed the cap, pins and springs, and looking down the 5 empty shafts that held the springs and pins, and rotating the key, I spotted the lock pins through the shafts. It didn't make sense to me - I hadn't yet released the c-clip on the back of the cylinder, but if I could drop the pins out that way, I would be saved all the trouble of disassembly. I covered 4 of the holes and tapped the cylinder to let the 1st pin drop out, and it's size matched the 1st numeric code stamped on the key. As did the 2nd - the 5th. So that was it! Easy!! I dropped in pins that matched the key I was rekeying it too, turned the key, and it worked! I thought I had it made. I then replaced the springs with the pins stuck in them, and put the bible cap back on and it held. Squeezing the bible down and lining it up with the interior slot was a breeze. I thought I had it made. I then re-slotted the handle onto the remaining part of the assembly, and over the spring loaded pin you depress to get the handle off. So far so good. But when I tried to turn the key (which I had left in the keyhole), it wouldn't budge. I turned a bit harder, and that's when I heard the sound of the pins rolling around the inside of the handle. the bible top had come off AGAIN! Now, I can't turn or remove the key from the lock, and it won't come out of the knob, so I can't remove the C clip to remove the key pins, which must have dropped into the inner cylinder of the key - thus keeping the key stuck in the lock and unable to be turned. What a disaster. I'm out $30 for the new entry knob set, and $3.50 for a dupe key. Not sure I like this F series. What did I do wrong?
Thanks for reading it. I've since learned a lot of what went wrong, as well as the internal anatomy of the cylinder, and realize much of what I said sounds off. I still can't understand how this F series helps the end user. The bad things that can go wrong when taking it apart make it a poor choice for someone like me, and I'd imagine most lock enthusiasts. But it sure does save Schlage some manufacturing costs - i.e. the real reason for this ingenious, but ultimately faulty design. Thanks! You've been a huge help in teaching me a new hobby.
This is such a neat idea, having a compressible bible. Im trying to figure out how something like that can be used to make a lock tougher to pick. ;) I mean, I know how it can be used to make it tougher. Have it compressed by default, so without a key youre not moving any of the pins. The question is how to implement something like that.. :P Maybe something electronic. Have like an RFID chip in the key that triggers a mechanism to expand the bible. Ive got some pretty tiny Arduino type chips that would definitely fit inside a lock. Hmm... "evil grin" lol
@@HelpfulLockPicker Its becoming more than just an idea. Ive got everything Id need to make this happen. Question is, where did you find that lock? Its an F series right?
Thank you, but I didn't hear you say that the lock needs to be lined up at a certain place with the cutout. By the look of it the cutout should be 90 degrees to the top of the lock. Maybe it will be obvious because there is a tab that fits in the cut out. But I did not hear this
Once you get your hands on it what needs to be done will be pretty clear. If you need any help feel free to leave a comment. I usually respond to everyone.
@@HelpfulLockPicker i'm thinking 10+ years, maybe its a different series? i always thought they were all the same and came in different finishes./styles.
@@bird718 I am not exactly sure when the F series came out but I think it is newer than 10 years. When I bought this originally I just wanted a door knob with a lock with the schlage keyway and I went with the cheapest one
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Big Thank You!! This was a big help. It allowed to replace a malfunctioning Schlage door knob and to move my old lock cylinder to my new properly functioning Schlage door knob. I therefore did not to have a locksmith re-key the new door knob. Mission accomplished.
Well done, they can be downright intimidating at first. Just a great video showing it CAN be done. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for checking it out Al!
Thank you! Very helpful video.
Thanks for checking it out
A collapsing bible.... how cool is that! Does it make the lock much weaker though?
I haven't seen too many downsides to it
Great video My Friend
Thanks Nico!
I had the misfortune of trying to rekey this F series type of lock. I'm a beginner, but watched a lot of videos and had all the necessary tools. Where everything went wrong came even before I got to removing the cylinder from the knob. I heard a jingling noise and saw a tiny mushroom shaped pin drop out of the knob along with a spring. Apparently, the cap had come off the Bible and released the springs and pins beneath them. Since the cap was now off, the cylinder came out easily, as did the remaining 4 springs and pins. I carefully put them all back in and was able to recap the bible, but the tenuous way that cap was held on was a bit disconcerting. If it released it's grip, springs and pins would go flying.
I carefully removed the cap, pins and springs, and looking down the 5 empty shafts that held the springs and pins, and rotating the key, I spotted the lock pins through the shafts. It didn't make sense to me - I hadn't yet released the c-clip on the back of the cylinder, but if I could drop the pins out that way, I would be saved all the trouble of disassembly. I covered 4 of the holes and tapped the cylinder to let the 1st pin drop out, and it's size matched the 1st numeric code stamped on the key. As did the 2nd - the 5th. So that was it! Easy!! I dropped in pins that matched the key I was rekeying it too, turned the key, and it worked! I thought I had it made.
I then replaced the springs with the pins stuck in them, and put the bible cap back on and it held. Squeezing the bible down and lining it up with the interior slot was a breeze. I thought I had it made. I then re-slotted the handle onto the remaining part of the assembly, and over the spring loaded pin you depress to get the handle off. So far so good. But when I tried to turn the key (which I had left in the keyhole), it wouldn't budge. I turned a bit harder, and that's when I heard the sound of the pins rolling around the inside of the handle. the bible top had come off AGAIN!
Now, I can't turn or remove the key from the lock, and it won't come out of the knob, so I can't remove the C clip to remove the key pins, which must have dropped into the inner cylinder of the key - thus keeping the key stuck in the lock and unable to be turned. What a disaster. I'm out $30 for the new entry knob set, and $3.50 for a dupe key.
Not sure I like this F series. What did I do wrong?
Thank you for sharing your story
Thanks for reading it. I've since learned a lot of what went wrong, as well as the internal anatomy of the cylinder, and realize much of what I said sounds off. I still can't understand how this F series helps the end user. The bad things that can go wrong when taking it apart make it a poor choice for someone like me, and I'd imagine most lock enthusiasts. But it sure does save Schlage some manufacturing costs - i.e. the real reason for this ingenious, but ultimately faulty design. Thanks! You've been a huge help in teaching me a new hobby.
Some cool info buddy, have a great one.
Thanks for checking it out
Nice video bro
Thanks for checking it out!
This is such a neat idea, having a compressible bible. Im trying to figure out how something like that can be used to make a lock tougher to pick. ;) I mean, I know how it can be used to make it tougher. Have it compressed by default, so without a key youre not moving any of the pins. The question is how to implement something like that.. :P Maybe something electronic. Have like an RFID chip in the key that triggers a mechanism to expand the bible. Ive got some pretty tiny Arduino type chips that would definitely fit inside a lock. Hmm... "evil grin" lol
That seems like an interesting idea :)
@@HelpfulLockPicker Its becoming more than just an idea. Ive got everything Id need to make this happen. Question is, where did you find that lock? Its an F series right?
@@Halfzipp it can be found in most hardware stores in the US
Do you know who sells the Falle pick set?
I do not
haha, we got sent here BY SCHLAGE 😆
Thanks for checking it out!
Thank you, but I didn't hear you say that the lock needs to be lined up at a certain place with the cutout. By the look of it the cutout should be 90 degrees to the top of the lock. Maybe it will be obvious because there is a tab that fits in the cut out. But I did not hear this
Once you get your hands on it what needs to be done will be pretty clear. If you need any help feel free to leave a comment. I usually respond to everyone.
my schlage door knobs are different it seems.
Are they older?
@@HelpfulLockPicker
i'm thinking 10+ years, maybe its a different series? i always thought they were all the same and came in different finishes./styles.
@@bird718 I am not exactly sure when the F series came out but I think it is newer than 10 years. When I bought this originally I just wanted a door knob with a lock with the schlage keyway and I went with the cheapest one
F as in "who the F designed this stuff" said multiple times a day in the locksmith shop :)
Lol