CAN Captain Rex BEAT Commander Cody? WHO WINS - Star Wars Theory

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  • @primal_tyrant8746
    @primal_tyrant8746 Місяць тому +90

    Rex exhibits more of a ARC trooper personality in terms of free thinking. Cody represents the pinnacle of what "average" clone troopers are meant to be. And in the last season of the clone wars, the playbook the Republic were using was drawn up by Rex and Echo. Rex's outside the box thinking is more valuable than someone who can regurgitate the manual at you. Plus Rex looks cooler lol

    • @SIGMA-52
      @SIGMA-52 Місяць тому +4

      Commander Cody represents the Pinnacle of the average clone did you go rewatch Clone Wars the only way you think this is because you probably only remember the missions Rex goes on Rex goes on small reconnaissance missions Rex doesn't get into scrappy one on ones all out Wars rex and his squad get what they need and get out was cody takes on more of a clone commando role in a larger army he's the top of Arc Trooper graduates when it comes to arc Trooper training he's got reconnaissance down to a art form he can do surveillance he hand to hand you can do survival he can do full frontal assault he can do everything another reason you feel that Rex has an arc Trooper personality is one because he's always around three other arc Troopers throughout the whole series because there are three arc Troopers in his squad and that he had his inhibitor chip removed that's why he's so free thinking and if he was so free thinking and upstanding as a clone he would have helped the rest of them and when it comes to design I respect your opinion but cody shits on rex all day every day

    • @thegreatsnowblizzard3196
      @thegreatsnowblizzard3196 Місяць тому +5

      I think it can be argued that Cody was the better tatician considering his ability to maintain point rain when all the other Jedi general were either unable to fight or seperated from the group.

    • @vruxdrossgaming
      @vruxdrossgaming Місяць тому

      Fordo stomps both Rex and Cody.

    • @thegreatsnowblizzard3196
      @thegreatsnowblizzard3196 Місяць тому

      @@vruxdrossgaming who would win: Fordo vs Alpha-17

    • @vruxdrossgaming
      @vruxdrossgaming Місяць тому

      @thegreatsnowblizzard3196 As much as I love Fordo, it would be Alpha-17, even if Fordo was trained by Jango Fett himself the Null Arc Troopers are just in a different class of their own.

  • @Christommyfmx
    @Christommyfmx Місяць тому +137

    We all love Rex, but him and Cody fighting would be like the inverse of Anakin and Obi Wan. Also, daffodil theory when?

  • @AncestorEmpireGaming
    @AncestorEmpireGaming Місяць тому +70

    Alpha 17 and Captain Fordo: “Amateurs”

    • @brenthowell7786
      @brenthowell7786 Місяць тому +5

      No kidding Fordo solos both of them A-17 doesnt have to do anything

  • @fordos2121
    @fordos2121 Місяць тому +38

    Doesn't matter. Neither can compete with me.

    • @_Anakin_Skywalker
      @_Anakin_Skywalker Місяць тому +1

      And nobody can compete with me :)

    • @wrexonus
      @wrexonus 25 днів тому +1

      @@_Anakin_Skywalker High Ground

  • @SaeParsan
    @SaeParsan Місяць тому +15

    I think it's also important to remember that if it were to devolve into a close quarter fight there's no way Rex beats in Cody in hand to hand combat.

  • @StarWarsHoloclips
    @StarWarsHoloclips Місяць тому +40

    Love this comparison, I feel like Rex would know how to play dirty to win if they had to fight to win. I think a bit of Anakin will have rubbed off on him to sway the odds. But even then, it would be close!

  • @nopark1273
    @nopark1273 22 дні тому +4

    Cody would sit on Rex. We saw this in their fight against Slick. Rex isn’t as developed hand to hand combat as Cody is, we clearly see that throughout the whole series

    • @AnthonyzCity
      @AnthonyzCity 5 годин тому +1

      We see Cody through out all seasons as just being a better hand to hand combatant. Some examples are him against Slick and the droids

  • @Unxvailable-l-_IS_A_NONCE
    @Unxvailable-l-_IS_A_NONCE Місяць тому +32

    212th attack battalion definitely underrated af >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    • @shotszvgaming6974
      @shotszvgaming6974 Місяць тому

      Why should the 501st get all the glory! They killed the most Jedi out of all the battalions, at least the 212th don’t have that record.

  • @juana020883
    @juana020883 Місяць тому +63

    Team Rex!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 video Theory!!!

  • @williamlaursenhabel1049
    @williamlaursenhabel1049 Місяць тому +22

    6:18 in the video....

  • @A21-EDITS21
    @A21-EDITS21 Місяць тому +10

    Please do... What If Padme never went to Mustafar.

  • @realbenmaynard6019
    @realbenmaynard6019 Місяць тому +26

    I’ve missed the style of videos so much. Please keep doing these these OG type videos. 🙏

  • @Fortnite_Frost_Clips
    @Fortnite_Frost_Clips Місяць тому +1

    Cody and Rex are like Yin and Yang and that’s how they took back the Rishi moon without needing the jedi

  • @Lord_Arcann
    @Lord_Arcann Місяць тому +24

    I'd say they are pretty balanced, they both have a lot of expierence. Maybe a very slight advantage for Cody?

    • @ankinset
      @ankinset Місяць тому +4

      You spelt Rex wrong 😉

    • @asokatano9410
      @asokatano9410 Місяць тому +5

      Rex fought in 1st battle of Geonosis, while Cody didnt.

    • @fordos2121
      @fordos2121 Місяць тому +4

      @@asokatano9410 Which is weird because Cody is a generation 1 clone, same as Rex. And he's not just a Commander, he's the Marshal Commander. Outranks every other Commander due to that fact I believe.

  • @benleonard2202
    @benleonard2202 Місяць тому +3

    Great video, for another versus video I would like to see Echo vs Fives.(Both as ARCS, right before the Citadel arc)

  • @M3talhound
    @M3talhound Місяць тому +5

    Really hard to say, I honestly think it could go either way depending on the scenario.

  • @nathandrake2416
    @nathandrake2416 Місяць тому +3

    You need to check out DEATH troopers outpost

  • @renegaderonin1247
    @renegaderonin1247 Місяць тому +13

    Cody V Rex animation when?

  • @cbeaudry4646
    @cbeaudry4646 Місяць тому +2

    Before watching the video I think it depends when you're talking about; probably would be the closest during The Clone Wars, & only get more in Cody's favor as you progress through the timeline

  • @user-ep5go6ro9j
    @user-ep5go6ro9j Місяць тому +2

    Love this video but if you want to could you maybe do Obi-Wan Kenobi(Kenobi Series) Vs Count Dooku(AOTC)

  • @adamslater1634
    @adamslater1634 Місяць тому +3

    That's it!!! We want Mara Jade vs. Rey!! Now" DO IT!" 😂lolol

  • @Halomasterchief16
    @Halomasterchief16 Місяць тому +2

    I would guess Rex wins just based on Clone Wars and Rebels giving Rex a lot more development/feats to pull from. Cody was much more of a side character (despite being featured in the films and Clone Wars) than Rex (just featured in the Filoni projects, but as much more of a major character). Though I do wonder how jetpack play and standard weapons/equipment might factor into it

  • @yasumedia9528
    @yasumedia9528 Місяць тому +1

    Logical and well explained as usual friend. Great work!
    Cody was my favorite clone until The Clone Wars dropped. Rex is my favorite to date, but oddly enough, I can't pick one over the other.

  • @ColdHighway7
    @ColdHighway7 Місяць тому +2

    Severance Tann vs Ventress

  • @oscarrosales6862
    @oscarrosales6862 Місяць тому +3

    Finally more videos like this

  • @BCrudeless
    @BCrudeless Місяць тому +1

    Rex 7/10 he’s got way more impressive feats under his belt and he’s got that skywalker mindset, the 501st went on crazier missions, and rex is always on the frontline, cody is always back at the command posts calling shots

  • @mearafazbearxd1003
    @mearafazbearxd1003 Місяць тому +2

    I love watching ur videos everyday keep it up and made do a what if vader found luke early as a kid

  • @randtstudios5167
    @randtstudios5167 Місяць тому +1

    2016 theory is back

  • @ankinset
    @ankinset Місяць тому +12

    Team Rex Boi!

  • @patrickwhaley1026
    @patrickwhaley1026 Місяць тому

    This was a great vid.. thank you . Please do more. I'm a huge Rex fan but after you explained this so well, I definitely agree. How about pre sarlacc pit boba vs wiser boba fett

  • @Papoutte
    @Papoutte Місяць тому +9

    Team Cody and also pls do Jesse vs Fives

  • @Santerima
    @Santerima Місяць тому +1

    I'd have to say Rex. Cody seems a bit orthodox, while Rex is used to Anakin, and making dare i say perhaps playing a bit dirty

  • @MikelHG
    @MikelHG Місяць тому +3

    Let’s goooo! More who would win battles 💪

  • @elektriclettuce7325
    @elektriclettuce7325 Місяць тому +2

    My liege this was fire🔥

  • @MasterCast001
    @MasterCast001 Місяць тому +1

    Great vid

  • @georgehouliaras7239
    @georgehouliaras7239 Місяць тому +1

    Cody. The only thing I like about Rex is that he is 501st. Besides that, he is a goody two shoes version of Jango. In fact, I think he was a better character in the early seasons of Clone Wars than the latter. He went downhill in the later seasons and everything after.

  • @user-oc7og1nc1i
    @user-oc7og1nc1i Місяць тому +6

    I think Rex would win in a fight against Cody because of Rex's out of the box thinking in a battle while Cody sticks to his standard clone programming in dealing with a situation so Rex would have the advantage of being able to win over Cody in a fight. Plus, in Episode 1 of the final season, while Cody did hear Rex out about Echo possibly being alive, he didn't actually consider the fact that it may be true even though Rex pointed out how the strategies the Separatists were using against to counter them in the battle of Anaxes were strategies him and Echo made and just told Rex that he was just having misplaced hope. This shows to me at least, that Cody wouldn't be able to win in a fight where both him and Rex have the opportunity to gain an advantage over one another by thinking outside the box because Cody wouldn't even consider an option such as that being possible even with proof that it actually can be accomplished being presented right in front of him. Great video and hope you're doing well with Theory Sabers & Vader Episode 2; would love to win a saber if given the chance in the next giveaway. Hope you enjoy my audition as well, May the Force Be with You, Always.

  • @kochisland2424
    @kochisland2424 Місяць тому +5

    Rex!!
    But my guy is Bly

  • @jacebair4642
    @jacebair4642 Місяць тому

    Hey Theory! Love you’re work! Long time Sub and I’ve been wondering for a long time, What happened to Luminara Unduli? What was her Order 66 experience and why/ how was she taken captive?? Would love a theory about this one day. May the force be with you

  • @RMV1560
    @RMV1560 2 дні тому

    Yeah, this would be the clone version of Anakin versus Obi-Wan

  • @timalsept2854
    @timalsept2854 Місяць тому +9

    Rex has ARC training, and served under Anakin so he’d be unpredictable

    • @yester8039
      @yester8039 Місяць тому +8

      My boy cody does too lol

    • @timalsept2854
      @timalsept2854 Місяць тому +3

      @@yester8039 oh yeah forgot that. Well let’s face it, this is just gonna end up being a question of which one do you like better

  • @kats_katspaws
    @kats_katspaws Місяць тому +20

    Team Rex all the way baby 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @rawdogmeat4
    @rawdogmeat4 Місяць тому +10

    Rex: "In my book, experience outranks everything"
    Cody: *smirks*
    Loved the concept! 100% it comes down to situational factors.

  • @hopkke64
    @hopkke64 Місяць тому

    Rex, When you follow Anakin through out a war you would have way better and more diverse tickets. Also he would have been in way more battles because they used Anakin as a battering ram. He also took on a Jedi and won.

  • @CodyLantz
    @CodyLantz Місяць тому +2

    Team Cody!

  • @loveserveascend
    @loveserveascend Місяць тому

    Love these guys

  • @smitty7410
    @smitty7410 Місяць тому +1

    Do a video on why yoda didnt join the rebellion

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 Місяць тому +1

    Rex is more individual. Free thinker,has more tactical advantage. And Rex fought alongside Anakin. Have fantastic day too. May the Force be with you always too

    • @danielloader3351
      @danielloader3351 Місяць тому

      I think the free thinker is more to do with the fact that rex is just more of a main character in TCW in general so we just get more of him as a character. As for tactics, Cody is definitely ahead on that. He's a marshall commander and would have led more larger battles whereas rex worked well in more infiltration and individual skill type missions. Cody feels like a commando whereas Rex is like an ARC trooper

  • @darknight6904
    @darknight6904 Місяць тому +21

    Imagine theory makes a new series doing a vs series type thing with characters

  • @Chrisafisn
    @Chrisafisn Місяць тому

    Dawg…I think that would be a stalemate. They would counteract, ultimately leading to bucks with locked horns. Every time.

  • @BALAOFMANDALORE
    @BALAOFMANDALORE Місяць тому +1

    Rex has far more character and we've seen far more of him, his tactics could throw Cody off with how unorthodox they are adopted from anakin.
    but I feel Cody is the better fighter and overall would win this fight, rex could hesitate but Cody wouldn't though he'd regret it later.

  • @XAce707
    @XAce707 Місяць тому +1

    Wish u gave actual battle scenarios that happened in books, comics, shows, and movies that would explain their hand to hand combat prowess and a search and destroy scenario that would lead to a battle of life and death. I mean like using actual evidence from lore

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm Місяць тому

      Theory is not this kind of channel, he's more what if and fanfic channel

    • @XAce707
      @XAce707 Місяць тому

      @@Hello-bi1pm I've been here for 4 years.....

  • @Laundry_boi
    @Laundry_boi Місяць тому

    Yessssss more of this!

  • @joshlcfc3580
    @joshlcfc3580 Місяць тому

    Cody and Rex are the clone mirrors of Obi-Wan and Anikan… Cody being very principled to the rules, whereas Rex is free thinking, as you said. More heart on sleeve type of guy

  • @Dr.Restitution
    @Dr.Restitution Місяць тому

    Yes! Bring on these kinds of vids.
    Would love to see some pilot ones too Han Solo vs Anakin! DONT BE BIASED 😂

  • @spicy5766
    @spicy5766 Місяць тому

    Love these videos

  • @nickykasan
    @nickykasan Місяць тому +1

    I would really love to see you go back and remaster some of your older lore videos or even update them with new info, the channel and its content has seemed very budget and minimal as of recently.

  • @richreyes1214
    @richreyes1214 Місяць тому

    I keep bringing this up
    Clone Wars S1 E16 The Hidden Enemy. Slick almost single handedly kicked Cody's and Rex's butts. However between the two Cody held his own better in hand to hand combat while Rex got his leg broken when Slick put him in a leg lock. I disagree with the video H2H combat would have to go to Cody. It was also Cody who figured out Slick would be hiding in the vents, so we know Cody can also think on his feet. I agree that in a firefight Rex is better just because serving with Anakin he always finds himself in the middle of them and having to fight his way out. Rex is also better at improvising and getting creative again because he's developed this skill serving alongside Anakin, and that makes him very dangerous. BUT as the saying goes if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. If Rex goes in just hoping to wing it against Cody he will lose. He needs to come up with a plan, unfortunately for him Cody is the better tactician.
    In summary Rex's strengths in firefights and improvisation make him a dangerous opponent, however Cody is the master tactician he will take into account all of Rex's strengths and come up with plans and back up plans to defeat Rex. A smart soldier is a deadly soldier. Plus when all the chips are down Cody is the better H2H combatant.
    Just my opinion guys but I think the logic behind it is sound.

  • @loliamnot13
    @loliamnot13 Місяць тому

    i think it woulda been cool to discuss them in two separate arenas kinda like the hunger games. One of them is actually just a 1v1 gladiator battle (with cover of course) with all of their normal gear. The other would be if they had a squad of like 12v12 or 50v50 and they had to go through like a battlefront style domination fight for a location. no respawns obvi lol

  • @houstonmaxfield6282
    @houstonmaxfield6282 23 дні тому

    I was wondering if you would do a video on what Cody would done in Rex’s boots. What if Krel took over the 212th instead. Would Cody let it play out or would he draw a line sooner.

  • @KYTEOYT
    @KYTEOYT Місяць тому

    These kinds of videos are the reason I subscribed in the first place. Nonetheless I still watch because I genuinely fwu Theory.

  • @WY_Circus_Freak
    @WY_Circus_Freak Місяць тому

    I'd love to see a Galen Marick vs Ashoka theory match up...

  • @isaacrebellion9893
    @isaacrebellion9893 Місяць тому +1

    Cody is one my best clone in star wars, Cody was own character by Disney and Rex was used by Dave filoni.

    • @TreyJaySoSway
      @TreyJaySoSway Місяць тому

      Cody is from Revenge of the Sith

  • @jaredmoore7177
    @jaredmoore7177 Місяць тому +1

    Why is this a question 😂 Rex whoops cody’s ass

  • @pajarored2504
    @pajarored2504 Місяць тому

    For a second I read "Can Rex Beat Box..." XD

  • @josermaiz
    @josermaiz Місяць тому +1

    I think that Cody and Rex were brothers in clone wars we got many episodes with them but the times that both have their own battle legion

  • @samuelcohen2362
    @samuelcohen2362 Місяць тому +1

    If we play our cards right, we'll have an official answer to this question by the final episode of Bad Batch.

  • @ace360
    @ace360 Місяць тому +1

    Rex all day 🎯🤘 Awesome video General Theory

  • @Nicholas-vk7kq
    @Nicholas-vk7kq Місяць тому

    do old republic content, hero of tython, barsenthor, emperor's wrath, valkorion palpatine, etc

  • @CraneGamez2006
    @CraneGamez2006 Місяць тому

    Wow ,now we see a video of my favourite clones .... truly gonna be a ''DUEL OF THE CLONES'' if someone makes an animation of this.

  • @user-wh1zd5hp2f
    @user-wh1zd5hp2f Місяць тому +1

    Rex has more experience because he’s been in the war for longer, he’s older than Cody canonically because he fought in geonosis 1 while Cody didnt

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 Місяць тому

    Rex is more free thinker. Better tactician. And he fought alongside Anakin. Have fantastic day too. May the Force be with you too always😊

  • @MichaelChill
    @MichaelChill Місяць тому +1

    How is Cody more experienced if his experience is purely based on tactical strategies?? If Rex has been trained the same way as Cody but also has unorthodox tactics, it’s not going to Cody!! If I’m trained to shoot on one foot vs someone who’s trained on both, they’re going to have the experience because they’re used to more than one way of shooting

    • @kecksbelit3300
      @kecksbelit3300 Місяць тому

      They have been trained the same but codey was more passoined about it. He put more effort himself into learning that's why he is better in that way

  • @Eddieavina123
    @Eddieavina123 Місяць тому

    Love your video

  • @kyletavizon7045
    @kyletavizon7045 Місяць тому

    From what ive seen which is all the movies and animation shows in the skywalker era, they pretty much show imo rex has being the ultimate experienced fighter while cody has all the IQ and battlefield technique advantage, you give cody time to plan against rex, he wins. If its an instant fight combat scenario, rex all day

  • @dbsthumper
    @dbsthumper Місяць тому

    my Captain Rex mug speaks for itself 😉

  • @wildbard4112
    @wildbard4112 Місяць тому

    Cody in my opinion. He's the highest rank for a reason. Also the man straight up likes to fist fight droids. He's able overpower commando droids in hand to hand combat.

  • @mjohns908
    @mjohns908 28 днів тому

    I think Rex would be able to keep Cody tactically unstable with his ability to improvise.

  • @finn8567
    @finn8567 Місяць тому

    I would love to see a fantasy battle between the clone legions of the clones

  • @kylenobi
    @kylenobi Місяць тому

    Off video topic but theory you should do who would win in a fight? A Wampa or a Wookie?

  • @andregarcia8004
    @andregarcia8004 Місяць тому

    how do we access your live watch parties?

  • @fordos2121
    @fordos2121 Місяць тому

    Please make more of these type of videos, absolutely love this. So many other clones you could do! Love it man! I'm team Rex🔵

  • @ItsJustFox
    @ItsJustFox Місяць тому

    1v1, Rex
    If they were leading a squad or unit against one another, Cody.

  • @inarencommander4663
    @inarencommander4663 Місяць тому

    In a 1v1, I'll take Rex. In a battle where they're leading a group, I've got Cody.

  • @__j20
    @__j20 Місяць тому +1

    Cody was much higher on a mental level. Higher ranked (grand Marshall ranking). Regarded as the best tactician in the republic, and helped them win many important battles with his unparalleled tactical abilities, even in dire situations with all the odds against him. I think he was better in combat, shown in a number of ways but one is where they were both fighting the traitor slick. Rex was struggling, Cody was not. Rex had a “street smart” sort of advantage. One example of that is when he quickly realized the droids were impersonating clones when he and Cody were sent to inspect a moon outpost. He saw the droid attack flare, immediately turned around and shot the droid. Cody didn’t pick up on it until rex told him to relax and then pulled off the clone helmet, revealing it was a droid. But, Cody was superior overall.

    • @Wyr_111
      @Wyr_111 Місяць тому +1

      I agree with this. I love Rex but I think a lot of people let there bias opinion effect there judgment.
      I'm team Cody all the way

  • @squeeeep9564
    @squeeeep9564 Місяць тому +1

    Loving the theory sabers, but this is a genuine question. Why are people saying that theory didn’t make the sabers and he’s just reselling TXQ sabers..? Also I’m team rex

  • @tornardo0227
    @tornardo0227 22 дні тому

    Hey Theory love your vids. Could you possibly consider: Maul vs Mace, Maul vs Duku or Rex vs Cad Bane. Also team Rex! ❤

  • @danielkrcmar5395
    @danielkrcmar5395 Місяць тому +1

    It's obviously Cody. I know Rex is the fan favorite and all but Cody is the higher trained.

  • @cityoftrees9953
    @cityoftrees9953 Місяць тому

    The dirty fighter is always the best fighter. Because they are willing to do anything to win

  • @TheNin-Jedi
    @TheNin-Jedi Місяць тому +1

    I doubt theory will see this but apparently Neil deGrasse Tyson proved that 8 and 9 couldn't have happened in reality.
    So in episode 7, Starkiller base sucks up the energy of a star and uses that energy to destroy the new republic. Like 8 planets. According to Tyson it should have had the power to destroy 1000 planets. MEANING that when Starkiller base explodes. RIP Illum. It releases enough energy into the universe to destroy 1000 planets. Ultimately proving that 8 and 9 MUST have been made up because the entire universe would have been obliterated.

  • @taunttitan1714
    @taunttitan1714 Місяць тому

    So a genuine STAR WARS character (Commander Cody) vs a Jake Wars Dinsey Canon Glorified Fan Fiction character (Captian Rex) oh geez I wonder who would win

  • @PeaceOrUtterDestruction
    @PeaceOrUtterDestruction Місяць тому

    I would’ve said Rex before the video, but I think Cody now afterwards

  • @user-cv7uc8rc1m
    @user-cv7uc8rc1m Місяць тому

    Please do grievous vs ventress

  • @PalpatinesPlumber
    @PalpatinesPlumber Місяць тому

    Cody might have the better skills at commanding large number of troops, but Rex is more of an individual/outside the box thinker + he has the better armor. Rex wins a 1 v 1 duel in my books.

  • @JeffreyDoesYT
    @JeffreyDoesYT Місяць тому +1

    starkiller vs ashoka

  • @madmikefollower6939
    @madmikefollower6939 Місяць тому +1

    Rex wouldn’t want to fight

  • @SIGMA-52
    @SIGMA-52 Місяць тому +1

    Almost the entire community love rex but if you had to get into a gunfight or throw hands with kodi Cody's gonna whoop him nine ways til Sunday I'm team Cody all the way since day one sure Captain Rex might be the fan favourite but kodi has more combat experience he's the head of the 212 attack Battalion literally the full frontal assault unit of the Republic not to mention he's better than any arc Trooper since he's had arc training and I'd say he's better than half of the Clone Commandos when it comes to Tactics and specialised training cody is the definition of built different

  • @bentstraw827
    @bentstraw827 Місяць тому

    Plo Koon vs AOTC Anakin Skywalker

  • @timbennett2717
    @timbennett2717 Місяць тому

    Think you're bang on with your evaluation! I'm always gonna be team rex!!

  • @GalaktischerHirnsauger
    @GalaktischerHirnsauger Місяць тому

    Gotta disagree with the sentiment that rex wins in close quarters or hand to hand. Cody has shown to be extremely tough in hand to hand combat using his fists for example against slick and in the tcw movie against droids and also has been shown using knives in the bad batch