A majority of players make it to plat 1 due to qualifying matches. Obviously Rookie to Gold combined has more players than plat but players make it to plat more often than not. It has the highest percentage based on individual rank. Thats what I meant.
Do you think a lot of Platinum 1 players wouldn't make it to Platinum if they had to start at Rookie and rank up? I didn't play SF5. I think I clicked beginner . After struggling with Ken all the way to Platinum, it took 6 weeks, I switched to Cammy. I went from Iron to 4 star Gold in one afternoon. Platinum 1 is a grind, but I find myself winning easily 80% of my matches against Plat 1 players now, yet only about 55% against Platinum 3-5. Platinum 1 and 2 really seems to weed out people who don't " understand " the game.
I didn't know that I stopped playing because there was no win streak bonus and I was on a 19 game win streak and it was just taking to long to go up a rank
This is also a nice way to show just how crazy good and consistent the top tournament players are. Guys like Daigo, Tokido, Mago, Punk, Fuudo, Kakeru, etc all hover around 2.1k MR which is insanely hard to maintain. The vast majority of them never "one and done" low MR players, even if they loose either.
I'm already Master and I got the game in mid-November. I was only Super Diamond in SFV and I played that for over a year. I get that the ranking system in SF6 is trying to be inclusive to all but the skill level among Master rank varies wildly
I'm diamond 2 and I see some amazing players in there, don't see many drops in combos and it's a real fight to get into Master. If you are a professional player with crazy reflexes and combos, obviously it will seem easy, but that's far from the norm.
@@tanzolo4487 You'll get there. I finally got there. Three times I had games to go Master and lost. Points went back down 300 from there each time. It was awful 😭 I finally got there though... I beat a Master Luke for like 200 points and got it. And I'm officially done with ranked 😂
@@brallector881 I can Imagine. If you’re in PSN teach me 😅 no for real. I’m at that level where I kinda understand the mecanics of the game, but I have no clue about matchups, and what my options are. It’s my 3rd week and my first street fighter. But Diamond is rough dude. It stresses me out. It makes casuals feel like a holiday.
4 days ago i started playing SF. I could not throw a fireball. I selected beginner in my placement matches i selected beginner. I managed to win 8 out of 10 placement matches but i lost to a iron and bronze. I started silver. I went to practice some combos for several hours. Comeback to rank.. i got plat on my 4th day making my way to plat 2.
I started in Bronze and fought up to Platinum 1, then just decided I was done. I play so sporadically that without the win streak bonus it felt like it was gonna start to feel like a slog to get any higher. I leave for like a few weeks then come back and need to get back in the flow, I'll lose a good amount of games until I'm back in the groove, then once it clicks I'll get those wins back. Also the players I was up against weren't getting better, so the rankings also weren't feeling all that different. Plat 1 just felt high enough for me.
The 3% of master rank characters is inflated due to individual accounts having multiple master ranked characters. If they went by accounts, it would be closer to 2% which is a solid number for such a large player base.
I had no idea that high ranked MR players one and done players. I fight everyone unless the connection is really bad. If I did one and done players I'd probably have higher MR. Currently sitting a bit above 1800. I think it's an honor to have made it to the top 0.11% of SF6 players in ranked.
It's kinda crazy Sol because my main focus is getting better at the game more-so than being number 1. The higher end of MR seems to be a perfect training ground for getting ready for tournaments.
Truth be told, this makes me feel more relief for struggling in D4-5. Coming all the way from Silver and hearing about how easy it is to get to Masters (Especially for Ken) I grew to bare ALOT of doubts. Near 4% then further separation via MR seems crazy to me
Rank definitely matters imo. It's a great capstone achievement to prove that you are good against the general population. It doesn't mean you're the best and could beat anyone, but it proves you are resilient.
Agreed. I've never played fighting games seriously, in fact I only played SF4 before this. And I was more of a casual. So I'm just glad even to say that I'm Platinum, because I never thought I would get that far lol
@@majingrimlock976 Hell yeah man! Pat yourself on the back for that. You went through Rookie, Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Gold leagues. Platinum is a capstone achievement and don't listen to what anyone says. Next up, Diamond!
I think that implies that lower ranked players only play 1 character, which isn't true. their characters being in master is inevitably balanced by let's say me who has 1 character in diamond and 10-11 more all concentrated in platinum 1 division.
As someone who is at Diamond 5 rank. I just wanna hit master to say I did it but this last rank grind is the first time I felt "The struggle of ranked".
@@blackoozaru1916 you get >+150 when you beat a master player as a diamond. So if you do it consistently you would be master. This is a lie. Don't spread misinformation about the game.
The roughest patch I had before I hit Master was Diamond 3-5. THAT WAS ROUGH! A month and a half after hitting Master, I was sitting at about 1480 MR, 50K LP. You can do it. Something will click, and you will just take off. Keep pushin'!
No surprise Play 1 is the stopping wall for many players. No more win streaks and no need to worry about deranking until Pla lt 1; that's when the real grind starts in this game. After that, every win is really based on your skills to outplay opponents. Anyone that has high streaks is always looked with threat anything after Plat 1. There's gonna be times where you'll derank as well but it's up to you to persist and keep the grins going
It is so hard to go from 1600MR to 1700MR. I have gone up to 1680, and then played after not sleeping much and gone down to 1580. Back up to 1650, but the guys who maintain 1800 and above are crazy consistent. I am a Lily player though, so it does feel quite tough.
I think the ranked system is fine and probably one of the biggest reason player retention is so good for casual players. master rank is an achievable goal for a casual if they put in the work and the real rank is the MR system in masters for serious players. Sure plat 1 is a little inflated due to winstreak bonus but who cares. If the player isn't good they'll just be hardstuck plat 1 til they start to improve.
I’m almost at Diamond 4 and I’m finding myself having to unlearn a lot of things quickly with each rank up. Shit is frustrating but I’m trying to get to Master so I can finally “play the game”
@@thehobojarpen Besides the general advice of playing a lot and watching your replays I honestly think patience is what did it for me. As I climb the ranks I find that players are becoming more and more disciplined and intentional with their decision making. So I’ve basically just been trying to match that energy. And that comes in the form of just running my flowchart and watching what they do. Sometimes I just hold down and back and let them play the game for me (I play Guile so that’s kinda his shtick lol). Also play to your strengths. Not just your character’s strengths but your strengths as a player. If you’re a Ken player with insane mix then shoot for that win con. It’ll help with consistency and adaptation. Sorry for the wall of text! Hope that helps you and anyone else!
i loved how u mentioned having to change ur game once u hit master, i placed plat 1 and im now master rank with luke with a 53% win rate(not good imo but i lost a lot in the beginning n improved overtime) but from plat to diamond i found a lot of ppl tend to rely on flow charting and gimmicks and im trying to break a lot of my previous bad habits so i can hang
Attaining Master is easy for pros. It is easy for those that pick top-tiers and are relatively good. It is not easy for the average player. It is not easy for those that main Lily, Zangief, Manon, and Jamie. There is nothing wrong with the ranking system in SF6, especially after adding the Legend rank, and the MR system. If you are not a pro, and you do not main a top-tier, you know the grind is real.
As someone who hit his peak in Diamond rank in SFV, reaching master in SFVI is 1,000 times easier with the win streak bonuses (until you reach platinum), one-time rank demotion protection, and mostly even competition for Diamond rank players. My experience playing SFV probably helped, but I’ve put 180 hours into this game with less than 10% of those hours being in training mode before I hit Master, which is trash. My point is, that you don’t have to be a master at the game to become a Master in the game. It’s still a grind, though. Good luck!
As a person thats essentially brand new to traditional fgs, it's slightly vindicating to hear someone that's good enough to achieve Master rank say that while its easier than other games, actually getting Master rank is hard. I'm gonna climb out of platinum hell one day, this I swear.
As a brand new player you shouldn't even be close to platinum , that's how the ranking system is designed tho so not your fault , but understand that you have a Looooong way to go to reach master rank .
i got to diamond 1 and it's not fun there, seriously I can't play any other character and learn along the way like i did with gief now because they start me at plat right off the bat.
I've been playing fighting games on and off for about 5 years. I believe getting to master rank is easy, but staying 1500 MR is hard. I have 6 characters master and I can pick any character, and 1 week I'll be master
My starting rank was rookie 3 after placement matches. Now I'm iron 1. Placement matches and which starting level you choose determine your starting rank. Highel level means higher rank.
Great Video ✊🏾 I stopped playing ranked after master because I wasn’t getting enough character MU knowledge. Ranked is full of the top tier characters and I wanted to get better vs the rest of the cast.
I was at plat but I switched to leverless and the learning curve has dropped me bad (plus I have barely played since MK1 came out). But once I get it down I’m going for Diamond.
I don't understand why people obsess so much about how easy it is to get into Master. If Master was the final rank, and then all the matchmaking inside Master would be just random I would totally get it, but MR being an ELO system is arguably a better ranking system anyway, so even if everyone gets into Master you're still going to have a real ranking system differentiating skill levels and doing actual ranked matchmaking.
I'm 46 years old. I made it to master with Dhalsim. I dropped to 1200 MR points since getting master a few weeks ago (not much time for me to play). But now I've climbed my way back up into the 1500s. If I can do it, anyone can. .. so yea, I'd say it's pretty easy.
Man no, give yourself some credit, you had to be doing something right or you understand something that others don't. I play Ryu and I found it quite difficult to get to Masters lol. That was no walk in the park. The fact that you did it with Dhalsim too means that you have to have some serious skill or game IQ.
It took me ~65 Hours over 4 months to hit Master with Kimberly. It wasn't easy by any means. A guy I work with has been stuck in gold since release. Achieving Master isn't as easy as many of those in Master think it is.
Great video! I don't feel so bad anymore lol. Great points from JB about not worry too much about points. Personally I'm still having a lot of fun with the game and it really puts things into perspective to know that I need to be in the top 0.73% to get Legend. Glad it resets every 3 months to give me some new hopium. Side note/future video idea: What are some things that 1500 MR and below players do or don't do that 1600-1800 players do or don't do?
@@LetterNumber If you got time enough to grind for Legend and enter tournaments than more power to those players. It’s a huge time and mental commitment to play Streetfighter all day then decide to play even more Streetfighter.
People saying they walk across Master ranked players everyday at the store or the gas station because it's so easy and there are so many of them just got exposed.
I think the rank system is cool. I dont play rank. Majority is casual since SBMM is a thing in casuals. I dont mind the grind i just hate the pacing of ranks. These one and done kills my vibe and momentum. I made it to diamond 4 with lily and gief and i know i can make masters since thats 95% of my casual plays now. I started playing ggs and listen to a lot players complain about celestial and how its gate guarded. Now i hear its too easy to make masters......bruh. Great video as usual explaining and breaking down the systems.
I think this game is easy to get to platinum, not because the placement, when I try the first time the 10 rank matches to get place it, I got Iron, as I really didn't knew the how to play well the game specially with Cammy, but took me 1 week to get to Platinum 1, as the game give you bonus LP points if you get a streak going, I took my 3 mains and even Rashid and only with 1 I got the platinum placement by default when I did the 10 matches, the others I end silver or gold and pretty much in less than a few hours I got all in plat 1, the game becomes a lot harder there, I can get easily to plat 4 but I still haven't archive diamond 1 with any of my characters.....but I feel okay as I only place Gold back in SFV, and currently I'm Platinum 5 with my main Cammy and 4 with Juri.
I wasn't great in USF4 and never thought I'd get Master or make it past Plat 1 tbh. Im getting stomped in Masters atm. Im gonna say it was challenging getting there but not impossible by any normie standard.
Why are people still discussing this. BASIC Observation could see this a mile off. You can have a negative win rate and climb. The amount you can be negative gets more extreme the more "win streaks" you get in your climb. Further add on that you get bracket protection and as such can go to a near 0.00001% win rate AND STILL CLIMB (based on the amount of games played ofc). Further add that EVENTUALLY the competition will get promoted because even though they are trash, they are "less trash" leaving your bracket of actual bronze players fighting with what few bronze players are left. SOMEBODY HAS TO WIN! So AGAIN EVENTUALLY! The bronze players climb to silver. The actual silver players face actual bronze players and then they climb which pollutes the gold rank. The cycle then repeats. FURTHER add on that this game is far easier for bad players. Damage is disgusting, every character has something that is "bs" and the system mechanics in Drive Impact and Drive Rush exist and the damage and ease of a DI into a trash level 3 combo still nets 50% Further add cheating exists more than it ever has AND is more reliable because the net code and base game engine work. It's less policed at scrub ranks because who cares "it's silver bro". If they want to remove the ire from top players and stop deluded scrubs then simply rename the brackets. Gold is supposed to he a very decent standard. Gold in SF5 is what ? The top 8 - 12%? League of legends, you are what, the top 30%? Bare in mind LoL changed for the same reason as 6. Catering to an ego. Gold had some form of prestige. Hearthstone again, gold was a decent rank before the modern ego catering. Gold now is an alleyway dumpster that bad players can never be demoted from but never have to say I am Bronze. I'll admit I was giddy when I got Platinum for the first time. Week 3 after barely playing, 78% WR around 100 games. The novelty soon wore off when I saw DSP and LTG could get Master. What a complete joke.
Week 1 I placed Diamond 19000 Lp with Juri easily. Then I stopped playing to lv up in training/casual mode. Then due to unexpected circumstances I had to stop completely and recently am able to start playing again. But yeah ranking does seem easier.
i was placed in rookie at the start then played alot and got to plat and realized there was no longer a winstreak bonus and couldnt be bothered trying to grind it out that far to diamond and masters. After that i just swapped to a different character and play them on ranked to plat and have just been doing that for a while.
@@heavyhauler426Yeah but it takes way too long to even go from Plat 1 to Plat 2. To do that for 9 more ranks would take way more time than I have available in my busy life.
@@GoldGuardwhat's way too long? Lol I have two kids, workout, work full time, travel, and it only took me a week to get to plat 5 from gold. Took another week to hit diamond 1, but I sopped because I actually have to improve my execution to move up now
@GamingCentralTV1 Took me a bit longer to hit Plat 3 for Manon. Still, consistently play, and you will improve. Might take a while for that improvement to show, but it will show.
Yeah i think the numbers are inflated, it would be nice if we could see the condensed version, for example i alone have 3 Master ranked characters. Im sure i'm not the only one.
I have two. Working on a 3rd. There is no way that 3% of players are Master. That number is closer to 2% and maybe lower, due to your situation. Accounts having multiple Master Ranked characters.
Yeah i think you are right. its the multiple character holders because if you can do it once, twice you can do it as many times as you want to apply.@@PGO_Gaming
I think it’s hard and I don’t get it. I started in Platinum with my main on PS5 and most of my newer placement characters start in Diamond. I’ve seen masters and some of them have only 46% to 50 % win rate with less than 300 wins total😮. I was at 56 % win rate with about 480 wins out of 850…until I hit about 23500 LP, once I hit 24000 the competition got rough and there’s a lot of masters using their secondaries. My WR is steadily declining and I went 5 out of 27 games recently and demoted back down to 23000. I don’t think I can get master anymore . Two of my friends on PC got Master Rank early in Phase 0 and they didnt know anything about the system but their SF fundamentals got them through it.
Ranked in SF6 is a joke , I am a bad player and got Plat 5 ( ranked down to plat 4 when I lost the match after I placed). I should be no where near diamond let alone plat. I am a hardcore RPG guy that casually plays Fighting games, hell I can't do some combos on the right side, that's not the sign of true plat player. Now I am like Milli Vanilli wanting to give back this fake trophy for my real placement Plastic 5.
After finishing SFV at plat 5 / diamond 1. I can say that plat 1 is possible with any character for the first 10 matches ever or play time by fundamentals alone. Working up plat is consistency and having a good conditioning observation of both self and opponent Diamond feels like knowing resets, utilizing throw more often and in block string mixes, and lastly knowing opponents negative advantage
Is it rank per player or character being counted? As in, if I have 3 plat characters are they counted as 3 individual players. If this is the case this changes the narrative drastically.
@@Sk4tman91 Yea i get that, I'm plat with Ryu, Ken, and Jamie atm. But what I'm saying is, if lets say the numbers say 20% of players are plat 2 or higher, does the game count that as actual players or characters in plat 2. So if there are ten total plat 2s for example, and the game counts each character, and lets say I have 3 plat 2s, then the percent of players in plat 2 or higher is actually lower.
For me it was not easy. I have 600 hours in the game. I arrived at master when i had like 500 into the game, then fell down to 1100MR, and 100 hours later, i'm with a consistent 1400MR approx. 1700MR players obliterate me tho.
I understand why many high rated players say ranked doesn't matter. Dont feel to bad about not being diamond or masters but I think capcom letting you choose where to start was kind a mistake. The real struggle is improving the flaws in your gameplay. Interesting stats
I really like they letting you “choose” where to start, because it makes the lower ranks much more welcoming to complete beginners. All the time I get people doing their placement matches and I can clearly see that they are way better than a complete beginner. So when you are a beginner and fight someone in the same rank as you, is way more likely that the belong there at that moment and aren’t just someone ranking up a new character.
I've seen people get to Master Rank with a win rate lower than 50%, like roughly 43-44% win rate and getting to Master. There is a massive amount of LP inflation in the ranking system that contributes to this. There is is derank protection for 1 match, if you go 1-1 with someone there is a net gain of +10 - 80 lp into the system if not more, Master Rank players give free wins to lower rated players. I also believe that if you have a character that is Master Rank, you gain slightly more LP on your other characters for each win. If you can get to Master Rank with a 43% win rate and you basically get there just playing/losing, . Outside of the MR system, your rank is almost meaningless.
When you factor in that most people aren't even close to good, and just hustling their way to master by doing shit like avoiding run backs with players they feel can handle their bullshit, if you're a fairly decent player you should have a smooth sail to master rank almost every time. And then when you actually get to master you find that many of those players aren't good either, they were just playing a lot. Your take on this is on point. And Diamond rank is the home of wake-up drive impact lmao. 4 and 5 star Diamond is home of the one and dones. I'm a little over 1600 but I don't play often so you also gotta factor in frequency of play AND that people get master rank and create new accounts to do it again....and again. To anyone reading this: If you're gonna grind, focus on learning the game. There is no light at the end of the "master rank grind" tunnel. It aint the "badge of high skill" some of these dudes in twitch chat like to make it appear to be. you're no better or worse as platinum or diamond; it's all about you and your understanding and level of comfort with the game. I was master rank for a good month before i even began to find my groove. and if you hustle and one 'n done your way to master, all you're gonna do is get frustrated once you get there because a lot of master players are just one (or two) trick ponies who run away from players who figure out their bullshit.
hot take it isnt a forsure easy way to get master rankin fact its really harder to climnb more so then tekkken 7 or mk 1 look how easy to rank up in mk 1 then sf 6 its twice as frikin hard number one reason being the people who are actualy higher ranked and learning a new char it makes it near impossible to rank up mainly because of that
Punk, who had the highest US MR - 2275Mr is in japan, and has lost over 100Mr since hitting japan ranked. He’s currently on 2130. So it’s obviously not easier in japan: the fact they have so many 2200+ is testimony to how good the they are. I was quite shocked actually. Crazy to see Punk struggle in ranked. He went from 90% win rate in US to like 50% in Japan.
It says a lot for how strong the players are who are consistently up there in the top 5. Hibiki, Moke, Fuudo, and Goichi always find their way back up there when they drop a bit.
A majority of players make it to plat 1 due to qualifying matches. Obviously Rookie to Gold combined has more players than plat but players make it to plat more often than not. It has the highest percentage based on individual rank. Thats what I meant.
Do you think a lot of Platinum 1 players wouldn't make it to Platinum if they had to start at Rookie and rank up?
I didn't play SF5. I think I clicked beginner . After struggling with Ken all the way to Platinum, it took 6 weeks, I switched to Cammy. I went from Iron to 4 star Gold in one afternoon. Platinum 1 is a grind, but I find myself winning easily 80% of my matches against Plat 1 players now, yet only about 55% against Platinum 3-5. Platinum 1 and 2 really seems to weed out people who don't " understand " the game.
The reason why plat 1 is inflated is not due to where people are placing, its due to win streak bonuses stop once you hit plat
It's both
I didn't know that I stopped playing because there was no win streak bonus and I was on a 19 game win streak and it was just taking to long to go up a rank
@@Snooopysniper12same, well not the 19wins part, but it was taking way too long
@@Snooopysniper12Yeah, I feel like a lot of people just stop at Plat 1. The grind is so boring, lol.
I placed in platinum 4 hit master in a month.
A majority isn't in Plat 1; 10% isn't a majority. It is higher populated than other ranks mostly because it is where win streak bonuses end.
he clearly said in the video that obviously the majority is in bronze below etc , but solely based of the dense of each rank , plat 1 is the majority
The correct word here is plurality.
They’ve made master a realistic target for a good chunk of players. Once you get there the real challenge begins.
I’m a salaryman working 50 hours a week with not a whole lot of time. Just hit D1 with Chun from S5. When I hit D2 I’ll be satisfied.
This is also a nice way to show just how crazy good and consistent the top tournament players are. Guys like Daigo, Tokido, Mago, Punk, Fuudo, Kakeru, etc all hover around 2.1k MR which is insanely hard to maintain. The vast majority of them never "one and done" low MR players, even if they loose either.
Thanks for sharing!
out of those 64 2,1k mr playerys probably 30 are just same players with different characters.
I'm already Master and I got the game in mid-November. I was only Super Diamond in SFV and I played that for over a year. I get that the ranking system in SF6 is trying to be inclusive to all but the skill level among Master rank varies wildly
I'm diamond 2 and I see some amazing players in there, don't see many drops in combos and it's a real fight to get into Master.
If you are a professional player with crazy reflexes and combos, obviously it will seem easy, but that's far from the norm.
Did you get master bro? On that grind myself right now... It's exhausting
@@brallector881I’m diamond 2. Man it is exhausting. You lose a couple of times you start over again.
@@tanzolo4487 You'll get there. I finally got there. Three times I had games to go Master and lost. Points went back down 300 from there each time. It was awful 😭 I finally got there though... I beat a Master Luke for like 200 points and got it. And I'm officially done with ranked 😂
@@brallector881 I can Imagine. If you’re in PSN teach me 😅 no for real. I’m at that level where I kinda understand the mecanics of the game, but I have no clue about matchups, and what my options are. It’s my 3rd week and my first street fighter. But Diamond is rough dude. It stresses me out. It makes casuals feel like a holiday.
@@brallector881 Got there ✔️ with 2 more characters shortly after
4 days ago i started playing SF. I could not throw a fireball. I selected beginner in my placement matches i selected beginner. I managed to win 8 out of 10 placement matches but i lost to a iron and bronze. I started silver. I went to practice some combos for several hours. Comeback to rank.. i got plat on my 4th day making my way to plat 2.
A lot of people got a free ride to platinum
I started in Bronze and fought up to Platinum 1, then just decided I was done. I play so sporadically that without the win streak bonus it felt like it was gonna start to feel like a slog to get any higher. I leave for like a few weeks then come back and need to get back in the flow, I'll lose a good amount of games until I'm back in the groove, then once it clicks I'll get those wins back.
Also the players I was up against weren't getting better, so the rankings also weren't feeling all that different. Plat 1 just felt high enough for me.
The 3% of master rank characters is inflated due to individual accounts having multiple master ranked characters. If they went by accounts, it would be closer to 2% which is a solid number for such a large player base.
As a hard stuck diamond player i sure as hell wish it was easy.
I had no idea that high ranked MR players one and done players. I fight everyone unless the connection is really bad. If I did one and done players I'd probably have higher MR. Currently sitting a bit above 1800. I think it's an honor to have made it to the top 0.11% of SF6 players in ranked.
It depends on the region too. Asia has the toughest players.
It's kinda crazy Sol because my main focus is getting better at the game more-so than being number 1. The higher end of MR seems to be a perfect training ground for getting ready for tournaments.
Truth be told, this makes me feel more relief for struggling in D4-5. Coming all the way from Silver and hearing about how easy it is to get to Masters (Especially for Ken) I grew to bare ALOT of doubts. Near 4% then further separation via MR seems crazy to me
Rank definitely matters imo. It's a great capstone achievement to prove that you are good against the general population. It doesn't mean you're the best and could beat anyone, but it proves you are resilient.
Agreed. I've never played fighting games seriously, in fact I only played SF4 before this. And I was more of a casual. So I'm just glad even to say that I'm Platinum, because I never thought I would get that far lol
@@majingrimlock976 Hell yeah man! Pat yourself on the back for that. You went through Rookie, Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Gold leagues. Platinum is a capstone achievement and don't listen to what anyone says. Next up, Diamond!
Got to diamond 4 today with Ryu and things are clicking for me. Hoping to make master with him and I’ll be happy.
Did you get there bro??
Some players have multiple master characters so the numbers are kinda inflated
that is also true
Ye I would say ppl have 3-4 characters in master average, not counting multiple accounts... just take the people that mastered all characters
I think that implies that lower ranked players only play 1 character, which isn't true. their characters being in master is inevitably balanced by let's say me who has 1 character in diamond and 10-11 more all concentrated in platinum 1 division.
Some of that guys charts are account based, not character based, not sure about this one.
Yes, it's like the rank of Super Gold- Platinum in SFV or 2k pp in SF4
As a ryu main. Just got to master rank yesterday. It's not easy. Grinding is real.
Plat and Diamond rank are the hardest. Because of league demotion.
As someone who is at Diamond 5 rank. I just wanna hit master to say I did it but this last rank grind is the first time I felt "The struggle of ranked".
@@blackoozaru1916beat masters consistently but still diamond? 🤔
@@blackoozaru1916 you get >+150 when you beat a master player as a diamond. So if you do it consistently you would be master. This is a lie. Don't spread misinformation about the game.
@@blackoozaru1916 wow, you must have a special edition of the game. thats crazy!
@sheldon4369 Yeah, i get really nervous playing ranked. So i play a lot of casual matches and it sets me up against Master Ranked players.
The roughest patch I had before I hit Master was Diamond 3-5. THAT WAS ROUGH! A month and a half after hitting Master, I was sitting at about 1480 MR, 50K LP. You can do it. Something will click, and you will just take off. Keep pushin'!
Im 40. Made master with lily using modern controls. Its tekky up here
No surprise Play 1 is the stopping wall for many players. No more win streaks and no need to worry about deranking until Pla lt 1; that's when the real grind starts in this game. After that, every win is really based on your skills to outplay opponents. Anyone that has high streaks is always looked with threat anything after Plat 1. There's gonna be times where you'll derank as well but it's up to you to persist and keep the grins going
So the real grind starts at plat1, is what I'm getting from this.
The real real grind starts at Diamond honestly. All players in there are good. In platinum at least you get some free wins.
Basically Japan runs into people in the same elo range so when they win they get 8-12 points instead of 5-7 like in NA
It is so hard to go from 1600MR to 1700MR. I have gone up to 1680, and then played after not sleeping much and gone down to 1580. Back up to 1650, but the guys who maintain 1800 and above are crazy consistent. I am a Lily player though, so it does feel quite tough.
I think the ranked system is fine and probably one of the biggest reason player retention is so good for casual players. master rank is an achievable goal for a casual if they put in the work and the real rank is the MR system in masters for serious players. Sure plat 1 is a little inflated due to winstreak bonus but who cares. If the player isn't good they'll just be hardstuck plat 1 til they start to improve.
I’m almost at Diamond 4 and I’m finding myself having to unlearn a lot of things quickly with each rank up. Shit is frustrating but I’m trying to get to Master so I can finally “play the game”
Any general tips on what helped you get from Diamond 2 to 3, and now from 3 to almost 4?
@@thehobojarpen Besides the general advice of playing a lot and watching your replays I honestly think patience is what did it for me. As I climb the ranks I find that players are becoming more and more disciplined and intentional with their decision making.
So I’ve basically just been trying to match that energy. And that comes in the form of just running my flowchart and watching what they do. Sometimes I just hold down and back and let them play the game for me (I play Guile so that’s kinda his shtick lol).
Also play to your strengths. Not just your character’s strengths but your strengths as a player. If you’re a Ken player with insane mix then shoot for that win con. It’ll help with consistency and adaptation.
Sorry for the wall of text! Hope that helps you and anyone else!
i loved how u mentioned having to change ur game once u hit master, i placed plat 1 and im now master rank with luke with a 53% win rate(not good imo but i lost a lot in the beginning n improved overtime) but from plat to diamond i found a lot of ppl tend to rely on flow charting and gimmicks and im trying to break a lot of my previous bad habits so i can hang
Attaining Master is easy for pros. It is easy for those that pick top-tiers and are relatively good. It is not easy for the average player. It is not easy for those that main Lily, Zangief, Manon, and Jamie. There is nothing wrong with the ranking system in SF6, especially after adding the Legend rank, and the MR system. If you are not a pro, and you do not main a top-tier, you know the grind is real.
It's good to have this explained IF I ever get good enough to play ranked, my game so weak I lose to CPU Lvl 4 lmao.
As someone who hit his peak in Diamond rank in SFV, reaching master in SFVI is 1,000 times easier with the win streak bonuses (until you reach platinum), one-time rank demotion protection, and mostly even competition for Diamond rank players. My experience playing SFV probably helped, but I’ve put 180 hours into this game with less than 10% of those hours being in training mode before I hit Master, which is trash. My point is, that you don’t have to be a master at the game to become a Master in the game. It’s still a grind, though. Good luck!
I’ve been hard stuck in Diamond 5 with JP for about 2 weeks now.. been really fkn frustrating tbh🤦🏽♂️😒😭
i think master is pretty difficult to achieve but placement matches make it a bit easier to get it cuz u can yolo ur placements n land in diamond
Everyone at plat and diamond and here I am at Bronze
As a person thats essentially brand new to traditional fgs, it's slightly vindicating to hear someone that's good enough to achieve Master rank say that while its easier than other games, actually getting Master rank is hard. I'm gonna climb out of platinum hell one day, this I swear.
As a brand new player you shouldn't even be close to platinum , that's how the ranking system is designed tho so not your fault , but understand that you have a Looooong way to go to reach master rank .
i got to diamond 1 and it's not fun there, seriously I can't play any other character and learn along the way like i did with gief now because they start me at plat right off the bat.
I've been playing fighting games on and off for about 5 years. I believe getting to master rank is easy, but staying 1500 MR is hard. I have 6 characters master and I can pick any character, and 1 week I'll be master
My starting rank was rookie 3 after placement matches. Now I'm iron 1. Placement matches and which starting level you choose determine your starting rank. Highel level means higher rank.
Ever since my last post I made it to master but I finally am done with rank the dumb randoms esp from bronze up to now. My god it was so annoying
I think mr should be best of 3 not gained after every match but for the set
BTW Plat I is the largest segment, but is not a majority - "majority" means more than half.
Great Video ✊🏾 I stopped playing ranked after master because I wasn’t getting enough character MU knowledge. Ranked is full of the top tier characters and I wanted to get better vs the rest of the cast.
Good stuff
Crazy to see how many Master rank players South America has compared to the rest of the world.
LAT AM LETS GOOOOO
Yeah, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the strongest region. It just means that South America has a bigger disparity in players' levels
Just reached diamond with rashid about a month ago. Im pretty sure I'll reach master rank before sf7 . (I hope so 💀)
Master I think, needs to do only best of 3 sets and then do the MR adjustment.
I was at plat but I switched to leverless and the learning curve has dropped me bad (plus I have barely played since MK1 came out). But once I get it down I’m going for Diamond.
Update; I reached diamond and I was happy everyone is like get masters or your bad. 😭
I don't understand why people obsess so much about how easy it is to get into Master. If Master was the final rank, and then all the matchmaking inside Master would be just random I would totally get it, but MR being an ELO system is arguably a better ranking system anyway, so even if everyone gets into Master you're still going to have a real ranking system differentiating skill levels and doing actual ranked matchmaking.
I'm 46 years old. I made it to master with Dhalsim. I dropped to 1200 MR points since getting master a few weeks ago (not much time for me to play). But now I've climbed my way back up into the 1500s. If I can do it, anyone can. .. so yea, I'd say it's pretty easy.
Man no, give yourself some credit, you had to be doing something right or you understand something that others don't. I play Ryu and I found it quite difficult to get to Masters lol. That was no walk in the park. The fact that you did it with Dhalsim too means that you have to have some serious skill or game IQ.
It took me ~65 Hours over 4 months to hit Master with Kimberly. It wasn't easy by any means. A guy I work with has been stuck in gold since release. Achieving Master isn't as easy as many of those in Master think it is.
Great video! I don't feel so bad anymore lol. Great points from JB about not worry too much about points. Personally I'm still having a lot of fun with the game and it really puts things into perspective to know that I need to be in the top 0.73% to get Legend. Glad it resets every 3 months to give me some new hopium.
Side note/future video idea: What are some things that 1500 MR and below players do or don't do that 1600-1800 players do or don't do?
If you’re trying to get Legend rank my question is why aren’t you entering tournaments instead? Seems easier and you’d get paid.
I don't see why they wouldn't be doing both; Capcom is hosting plenty of online tournaments
@@LetterNumber If you got time enough to grind for Legend and enter tournaments than more power to those players. It’s a huge time and mental commitment to play Streetfighter all day then decide to play even more Streetfighter.
I think they should offer legend rank to top 100 of your respective character. That way it isn’t all JP and Ken getting it
You can really easily get a winstreak into Platinum, but then you actually have to play the game to rank up.
People saying they walk across Master ranked players everyday at the store or the gas station because it's so easy and there are so many of them just got exposed.
It is a grind, but it is so addicting. Excellent video. I really hope they get a hold of the cheating as well. ✌
I literally stopped after grinding from bronze to plat 2
I think the rank system is cool. I dont play rank. Majority is casual since SBMM is a thing in casuals. I dont mind the grind i just hate the pacing of ranks. These one and done kills my vibe and momentum. I made it to diamond 4 with lily and gief and i know i can make masters since thats 95% of my casual plays now. I started playing ggs and listen to a lot players complain about celestial and how its gate guarded. Now i hear its too easy to make masters......bruh. Great video as usual explaining and breaking down the systems.
Not for me it isn’t hard stuck D2 😅
i reach d4 with cammy and i'm sure I'll drop to below 1300s if i reach master.
I think this game is easy to get to platinum, not because the placement, when I try the first time the 10 rank matches to get place it, I got Iron, as I really didn't knew the how to play well the game specially with Cammy, but took me 1 week to get to Platinum 1, as the game give you bonus LP points if you get a streak going, I took my 3 mains and even Rashid and only with 1 I got the platinum placement by default when I did the 10 matches, the others I end silver or gold and pretty much in less than a few hours I got all in plat 1, the game becomes a lot harder there, I can get easily to plat 4 but I still haven't archive diamond 1 with any of my characters.....but I feel okay as I only place Gold back in SFV, and currently I'm Platinum 5 with my main Cammy and 4 with Juri.
I wasn't great in USF4 and never thought I'd get Master or make it past Plat 1 tbh. Im getting stomped in Masters atm. Im gonna say it was challenging getting there but not impossible by any normie standard.
It does ease my worry but I’m still gonna grind for it
They better make legend rank ping based match making at least.
Why are people still discussing this. BASIC Observation could see this a mile off.
You can have a negative win rate and climb. The amount you can be negative gets more extreme the more "win streaks" you get in your climb.
Further add on that you get bracket protection and as such can go to a near 0.00001% win rate AND STILL CLIMB (based on the amount of games played ofc).
Further add that EVENTUALLY the competition will get promoted because even though they are trash, they are "less trash" leaving your bracket of actual bronze players fighting with what few bronze players are left. SOMEBODY HAS TO WIN!
So AGAIN EVENTUALLY! The bronze players climb to silver. The actual silver players face actual bronze players and then they climb which pollutes the gold rank. The cycle then repeats.
FURTHER add on that this game is far easier for bad players. Damage is disgusting, every character has something that is "bs" and the system mechanics in Drive Impact and Drive Rush exist and the damage and ease of a DI into a trash level 3 combo still nets 50%
Further add cheating exists more than it ever has AND is more reliable because the net code and base game engine work. It's less policed at scrub ranks because who cares "it's silver bro".
If they want to remove the ire from top players and stop deluded scrubs then simply rename the brackets. Gold is supposed to he a very decent standard. Gold in SF5 is what ? The top 8 - 12%? League of legends, you are what, the top 30%? Bare in mind LoL changed for the same reason as 6. Catering to an ego. Gold had some form of prestige. Hearthstone again, gold was a decent rank before the modern ego catering.
Gold now is an alleyway dumpster that bad players can never be demoted from but never have to say I am Bronze. I'll admit I was giddy when I got Platinum for the first time. Week 3 after barely playing, 78% WR around 100 games. The novelty soon wore off when I saw DSP and LTG could get Master. What a complete joke.
Week 1 I placed Diamond 19000 Lp with Juri easily. Then I stopped playing to lv up in training/casual mode.
Then due to unexpected circumstances I had to stop completely and recently am able to start playing again. But yeah ranking does seem easier.
its kinda crazy how people can get under 1300 is absolute crazy, I be finding 1200s on a bad day 😭, also unblock when :)
Jesus Christ…. I haven’t really grinded the ranks as a noob (still settling on characters), but seeing Platnium as a halfway point is demoralizing 😂.
I mean, keep in mind that although plat 1 is the most populated, almost 70% are below plat 1. I'm in plat 1 too haha, but I'm working on ranking up
Good breakdown man
i was placed in rookie at the start then played alot and got to plat and realized there was no longer a winstreak bonus and couldnt be bothered trying to grind it out that far to diamond and masters. After that i just swapped to a different character and play them on ranked to plat and have just been doing that for a while.
Punk could be legend rank with every character 😂
I don’t bother touching ranked after placements tbh since there’s no win streak bonus in Platinum and Diamond
This basically means you gotta improve at the game consistently to climb. Isn't that the whole point?
@@heavyhauler426Yeah but it takes way too long to even go from Plat 1 to Plat 2. To do that for 9 more ranks would take way more time than I have available in my busy life.
@@GoldGuardwhat's way too long? Lol
I have two kids, workout, work full time, travel, and it only took me a week to get to plat 5 from gold. Took another week to hit diamond 1, but I sopped because I actually have to improve my execution to move up now
@@GoldGuard it literally took me one weekend to get from diamond 1 to master. if you actually belong in a higher rank you still climb very fast
@GamingCentralTV1 Took me a bit longer to hit Plat 3 for Manon. Still, consistently play, and you will improve. Might take a while for that improvement to show, but it will show.
Elo ranking is like rollback give Japan another 10-20 years to implement this stobe age technology.
Yeah i think the numbers are inflated, it would be nice if we could see the condensed version, for example i alone have 3 Master ranked characters. Im sure i'm not the only one.
I have two. Working on a 3rd. There is no way that 3% of players are Master. That number is closer to 2% and maybe lower, due to your situation. Accounts having multiple Master Ranked characters.
Yeah i think you are right. its the multiple character holders because if you can do it once, twice you can do it as many times as you want to apply.@@PGO_Gaming
I think it’s hard and I don’t get it. I started in Platinum with my main on PS5 and most of my newer placement characters start in Diamond. I’ve seen masters and some of them have only 46% to 50 % win rate with less than 300 wins total😮. I was at 56 % win rate with about 480 wins out of 850…until I hit about 23500 LP, once I hit 24000 the competition got rough and there’s a lot of masters using their secondaries. My WR is steadily declining and I went 5 out of 27 games recently and demoted back down to 23000. I don’t think I can get master anymore .
Two of my friends on PC got Master Rank early in Phase 0 and they didnt know anything about the system but their SF fundamentals got them through it.
Hard Stuck Diamond 5 now😢
I feel bad cuz I'm not plat 1 I mean I def don't deserve it...I was hard stuck silver/gold for awhile.
Ranked in SF6 is a joke , I am a bad player and got Plat 5 ( ranked down to plat 4 when I lost the match after I placed). I should be no where near diamond let alone plat. I am a hardcore RPG guy that casually plays Fighting games, hell I can't do some combos on the right side, that's not the sign of true plat player. Now I am like Milli Vanilli wanting to give back this fake trophy for my real placement Plastic 5.
After finishing SFV at plat 5 / diamond 1. I can say that plat 1 is possible with any character for the first 10 matches ever or play time by fundamentals alone.
Working up plat is consistency and having a good conditioning observation of both self and opponent
Diamond feels like knowing resets, utilizing throw more often and in block string mixes, and lastly knowing opponents negative advantage
14200 rating gang rise up
I think it should be top 500 in each region but thats just me coping proably lol
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
Is it rank per player or character being counted? As in, if I have 3 plat characters are they counted as 3 individual players. If this is the case this changes the narrative drastically.
Per character. For example you can have Master Ken but gold Chun-Li etc.
@@Sk4tman91 Yea i get that, I'm plat with Ryu, Ken, and Jamie atm. But what I'm saying is, if lets say the numbers say 20% of players are plat 2 or higher, does the game count that as actual players or characters in plat 2. So if there are ten total plat 2s for example, and the game counts each character, and lets say I have 3 plat 2s, then the percent of players in plat 2 or higher is actually lower.
@@jobin140Good guestion.
Nice content bro
Appreciate it
excellent video
For me it was not easy. I have 600 hours in the game. I arrived at master when i had like 500 into the game, then fell down to 1100MR, and 100 hours later, i'm with a consistent 1400MR approx. 1700MR players obliterate me tho.
I understand why many high rated players say ranked doesn't matter. Dont feel to bad about not being diamond or masters but I think capcom letting you choose where to start was kind a mistake. The real struggle is improving the flaws in your gameplay. Interesting stats
I really like they letting you “choose” where to start, because it makes the lower ranks much more welcoming to complete beginners. All the time I get people doing their placement matches and I can clearly see that they are way better than a complete beginner. So when you are a beginner and fight someone in the same rank as you, is way more likely that the belong there at that moment and aren’t just someone ranking up a new character.
@@RaposaMahYeah like holy hell if I was put in bronze or sliver I would have made everyone's life a living hell
Stereotypical comment about win streak stopping.
I've seen people get to Master Rank with a win rate lower than 50%, like roughly 43-44% win rate and getting to Master. There is a massive amount of LP inflation in the ranking system that contributes to this. There is is derank protection for 1 match, if you go 1-1 with someone there is a net gain of +10 - 80 lp into the system if not more, Master Rank players give free wins to lower rated players. I also believe that if you have a character that is Master Rank, you gain slightly more LP on your other characters for each win. If you can get to Master Rank with a 43% win rate and you basically get there just playing/losing, . Outside of the MR system, your rank is almost meaningless.
"It's not Free Easy to get master"
Freeasy?
Imo yes just takes some time is all
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
When you factor in that most people aren't even close to good, and just hustling their way to master by doing shit like avoiding run backs with players they feel can handle their bullshit, if you're a fairly decent player you should have a smooth sail to master rank almost every time. And then when you actually get to master you find that many of those players aren't good either, they were just playing a lot. Your take on this is on point.
And Diamond rank is the home of wake-up drive impact lmao. 4 and 5 star Diamond is home of the one and dones.
I'm a little over 1600 but I don't play often so you also gotta factor in frequency of play AND that people get master rank and create new accounts to do it again....and again.
To anyone reading this: If you're gonna grind, focus on learning the game. There is no light at the end of the "master rank grind" tunnel. It aint the "badge of high skill" some of these dudes in twitch chat like to make it appear to be. you're no better or worse as platinum or diamond; it's all about you and your understanding and level of comfort with the game. I was master rank for a good month before i even began to find my groove. and if you hustle and one 'n done your way to master, all you're gonna do is get frustrated once you get there because a lot of master players are just one (or two) trick ponies who run away from players who figure out their bullshit.
Whos clip did you use in this?
hot take it isnt a forsure easy way to get master rankin fact its really harder to climnb more so then tekkken 7 or mk 1 look how easy to rank up in mk 1 then sf 6 its twice as frikin hard number one reason being the people who are actualy higher ranked and learning a new char it makes it near impossible to rank up mainly because of that
You can't lose more than 12MR per match.
You can lose more. Ive seen 2k+ lose 15
I currently have 1670MR. Maybe I can get 2000. :D
Punk, who had the highest US MR - 2275Mr is in japan, and has lost over 100Mr since hitting japan ranked. He’s currently on 2130. So it’s obviously not easier in japan: the fact they have so many 2200+ is testimony to how good the they are. I was quite shocked actually. Crazy to see Punk struggle in ranked. He went from 90% win rate in US to like 50% in Japan.
It says a lot for how strong the players are who are consistently up there in the top 5. Hibiki, Moke, Fuudo, and Goichi always find their way back up there when they drop a bit.
Yes