@@Ekleazdoesn’t matter. Touchdowns guarantee points, turnovers don’t. And he had about 4 or 5 arm punts, a Hail Mary picked, and a few went off of his receivers hands. For reference, Mahomes on,y had 3 fewer picks and 15 less touchdowns. Nobody rode his ass. And this year he’s even worse ( Kermit).
So Shannon is making it about stats THIS year, but last year it was about record? Meanwhile, Allen already has better stats than Lamar had last year AND a better record this year, so what are we doing with this nonsense?
It wasn't just record. He played his best last year in the games against powerful opponents. Led his team to the best record against winning teams in 40 years. It wasn't just record.
@dfro2147 11 more interception and they started winning when they started making him throw the ball a game. They started winning when they stopped running offense through him. Stop trying to rewrite history
@ Stephen a.. yes !!Shannon Sharpe not that much.. you gotta remember, Shannon Sharp played for Baltimore lol. But yeah, let’s hope Allen wins it this year.
Allen has 3 games left in cold chilly Northeast weather.. If LJ play in this climates last three games, he barely pass 180 yards and not able to outrun opponents in slippery conditions. So even if it is Pats and Jets, Allen won’t have stats which he had past two weeks at dorm.
@@Ekleazwhat numbers? He has the same amount of tds as Lamar and has less turnovers than Lamar. Allen has beaten both the #1 seeds in each conference, has 14 tds 0 turnovers in the last 3 games, and has more wins than Lamar. Lamar isn’t even leading his division😂. And Allen is doing this in a year that everyone said the bills weren’t going to make playoffs.
Oh Shannon, when are you going to give Josh his flowers? You just said if Josh did what Lamar just did to the giants that you would be saying oh well it’s just the giants….lol I see your true colors shining through. SMH
Lamar about to break passer rating all-time record AND td-int record in the SAME YEAR. Lamar is MV3 and it ain't close. Hats off to Allen for being MVP of the last 3 weeks.
If Saquan breaks the 2105yard record, they say he needs it because its never been done before. Week in, week out, Josh has been, the first QB to ......... Or first QB since .......... Name your thing. But Josh setting records doesnt seem to be enough for some.
This is a rebuild year for the Buffalo Bills. They’ve got late round draft picks and journeymen as his weapons and Josh Allen is somehow going into Detroit and winning after blemishing Kansas City.
Is she talking about Jackson who had 5tds vs the 2 win giants with half of their defense on ir and allen didn't lock up mvp after beating kc and Detroit tell me ur not bias without saying it
Player A - 3500 yards 37 tds 5 ints QBR 79.6. Beat both KC and Detroit. 2 seed. Player B - 4300 yards 37tds 3 ints QBR 76. Lost to eagles and KC. 5 seed. The stats are pretty even. One is winning more. And one is doing it with almost no help and playing through a taped hand half the year. Losing 6 of 8 captains. And was supposed to regress. One player gained weapons including Derek Henry and was a Super Bowl favorite. Allen is mvp. From a storyline standpoint and a statistical standpoint. And just general eye test, he’s doing things no one else is doing. Or has done. He’s breaking multiple records.
@@sean24833 haha what happpened week 1 and 2 and 8 and 11 and 13…. At a certain point dude. You can’t give a guy who’s not even winning his division the mvp. Their numbers are similar but one is winning more with less. And one clearly has the better team around him. Obviously pre season the ravens were Super Bowl favorites and are underplaying, and the bills were supposed to regress and be overrated and not even win their division and are overplaying because of only Allen.
@@Ekleaz josh Allen makes the o line seem better. They don’t allow sacks because he avoids like 10 per game. Bills beat KC and Detroit. And had to play the ravens, Texans, 49ers, rams, it’s not like they’ve had a ton of easy games. Ravens lost to the raiders and browns. Bad teams. And beat up on bad teams like the giants. But when they played the eagles and KC lost. They spanked the bills tho in week 4, so I’ll give em credit for that. But that was obviously a long time ago. Ravens are still a superbowl contender and Lamar should definitely be in the mvp convo, but Allen’s winning it this year
@calebdesjardins616 What? They had one of the softest schedules this year. Their own division doesn't even have a team above .500. People will say anything. They are a good team, but let's not act like they been through the gauntlet like the Ravens, Steelers, Eagles , Chiefs and even Detroit and Minnesota
Right! It wasn’t Detroits total lack of any defense it was JoshAllen. The Lions were so bad anybody would have done that yesterday! By the way no quarterback should the the NFL MVP at all.
They always say well bills beat a bunch of nobody's yadda yadda but beat chiefs and lions. But Lamar Jackson beats the giants and hes the greatest thing ever????
Stop the bullsh!t Shannon inthe tank for Lamar. Only a couple of weeks ago -- late in the season -- Lamar turned in a poor performance. Same of Saquon Barkley yesterday. Yet NOBODY highlights that ... meanwhile they jump all over it if Josh Allen has a bad game (with nowhere near thetalent surrounding him). Moreover, I do NOT want to hear the crap about Lamar's stats. TWICE Lamar Jackson has been GIFTED the MVP award with stats that were FAR BELOW Josh Allen's (including last season), and all the voters claimed it wasn't about who had the best stats as the "justification"to deny Allen the MVP. So don;t now try to gift Lamar another MVP because of "stats." Earlier this sear there wasa debate about the Ravens having TWO MVP candidates (Derick Henry). Well, if a tream has "two" "MOST valuable" players, they they have NONE !!!! There is NO SINGLE PLAYER MOST VALUABLE to his team than Josh Allen -- especially this season with minimal surrounding talent not yet fully developed.
Hypin LJ8 bc he went 21/25, 290 yds, zero picks, and 5 TDs… 🥱. JA17 already did this 3 years ago IN The Playoffs, not a 2-Win Team that’s been eliminated from the Playoffs. Additionally, Allen & The Bills didn’t lose to Winston & The Browns either.
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Hats off to Stephan A. He is right on this one
Josh Allen is the man period gets in his bag MVP winner hands down
Josh allen has over 42 TDs the last 4 years abd no MVP. Lamar only had 27 and won last year. Dont talk about numbers this year then!!!
How many turnovers did Allen have last season?
@@Ekleazhow many of those turnovers caused his team to lose the game? Context matters. Stop listening to the media and do your research
@dfro2147 id say 6 games he lost because of turnovers 🤣🤣🤣🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Statistically speaking Allen lead the last 3 years and no MVP.
@@Ekleazdoesn’t matter. Touchdowns guarantee points, turnovers don’t. And he had about 4 or 5 arm punts, a Hail Mary picked, and a few went off of his receivers hands. For reference, Mahomes on,y had 3 fewer picks and 15 less touchdowns. Nobody rode his ass. And this year he’s even worse ( Kermit).
So Shannon is making it about stats THIS year, but last year it was about record?
Meanwhile, Allen already has better stats than Lamar had last year AND a better record this year, so what are we doing with this nonsense?
It wasn't just record. He played his best last year in the games against powerful opponents. Led his team to the best record against winning teams in 40 years. It wasn't just record.
Allen had 18 interception alone last year. His numbers were not better stop it
@@Ekleaz Josh had almost 20 more tds than Lamar stop it.
@dfro2147 11 more interception and they started winning when they started making him throw the ball a game. They started winning when they stopped running offense through him. Stop trying to rewrite history
@ no they started winning when they stopped force feeding the diva Diggs
❤❤❤ congratulations Buffalo Bills
Mahomes: "Owwwww, my frickin ankle".
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Allen.. is the MVP this season.. Shannon Sharp stop with All The bias already. Smh give credit where credit is due… #17
Him and Stephen A are mostly the ones that always criticized lamar and praise josh go watch the other segment and relax allen is gonna win mvp
@ Stephen a.. yes !!Shannon Sharpe not that much.. you gotta remember, Shannon Sharp played for Baltimore lol. But yeah, let’s hope Allen wins it this year.
Does anyone else just watch these for the amazing arts and craft videos at the end?
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Lol best comment of the day 😂
Allen has 3 games left in cold chilly Northeast weather.. If LJ play in this climates last three games, he barely pass 180 yards and not able to outrun opponents in slippery conditions. So even if it is Pats and Jets, Allen won’t have stats which he had past two weeks at dorm.
Why is Shannon Sharpe still on? He is horrible.
He’s can’t see past color in a QB
Hating on Josh Allen again. Lamar is NOT better than Josh Allen MVP. Give it up.
Numbers say otherwise
@@Ekleazwhich numbers exactly? Because if you wanna talk about when it matters in the postseason Josh is far ahead of Lamar Jackson.
@@Ekleazwhat numbers? He has the same amount of tds as Lamar and has less turnovers than Lamar. Allen has beaten both the #1 seeds in each conference, has 14 tds 0 turnovers in the last 3 games, and has more wins than Lamar. Lamar isn’t even leading his division😂. And Allen is doing this in a year that everyone said the bills weren’t going to make playoffs.
Lamar actually gets more hate tf are you talking about smh
@@sethharris1894Lamar leads in every statistics except rushing TDs
Oh Shannon, when are you going to give Josh his flowers? You just said if Josh did what Lamar just did to the giants that you would be saying oh well it’s just the giants….lol I see your true colors shining through. SMH
He said Josh is in the lead. What else do you want?
@@shonda79able say it with out putting but after it.
Lamar about to break passer rating all-time record AND td-int record in the SAME YEAR. Lamar is MV3 and it ain't close.
Hats off to Allen for being MVP of the last 3 weeks.
Josh Allen hates is wild 😂 he's officially the MVP period.
If Saquan breaks the 2105yard record, they say he needs it because its never been done before.
Week in, week out, Josh has been, the first QB to ......... Or first QB since .......... Name your thing. But Josh setting records doesnt seem to be enough for some.
Allen hands down. Simply because the only players on the bills who’s gonna be selected first team pro bowlers is his O line. Period
I normally agree with Shannon a lot, but he's dead wrong here. Allens the MVP.
This is a rebuild year for the Buffalo Bills. They’ve got late round draft picks and journeymen as his weapons and Josh Allen is somehow going into Detroit and winning after blemishing Kansas City.
Is she talking about Jackson who had 5tds vs the 2 win giants with half of their defense on ir and allen didn't lock up mvp after beating kc and Detroit tell me ur not bias without saying it
Lamar can't win big games
Neither can Josh😂😂😂
@@Ekleazhe sure can.
@AZBillsfan72 He's never made it further than Lamar, so the facts say otherwise
@@Ekleaz24 tds in the playoffs compared to Lamar’s 6. The ravens lose bc of lamar, Allen loses bc of the bills
Now last year against win against the Texans wasn't a big game. It's a big game when he lose and when he wins its not
Not even close, Josh is superhuman
I’m just here for the tears 😢of the Lamar stans 😂😂😂
Allen and Lamar have the same amount of TDs and Allen has less turnovers.
Shannon hates Allen. One dominates the Giants the other dominates the Chiefs and Lions. They're not the same 😂
Player A - 3500 yards 37 tds 5 ints QBR 79.6. Beat both KC and Detroit. 2 seed.
Player B - 4300 yards 37tds 3 ints QBR 76. Lost to eagles and KC. 5 seed.
The stats are pretty even. One is winning more. And one is doing it with almost no help and playing through a taped hand half the year. Losing 6 of 8 captains. And was supposed to regress.
One player gained weapons including Derek Henry and was a Super Bowl favorite.
Allen is mvp. From a storyline standpoint and a statistical standpoint. And just general eye test, he’s doing things no one else is doing. Or has done. He’s breaking multiple records.
@calebdesjardins616 one had played a tougher schedule than the other. One has a better o line.
What happened week 4
@@sean24833 haha what happpened week 1 and 2 and 8 and 11 and 13….
At a certain point dude. You can’t give a guy who’s not even winning his division the mvp. Their numbers are similar but one is winning more with less. And one clearly has the better team around him. Obviously pre season the ravens were Super Bowl favorites and are underplaying, and the bills were supposed to regress and be overrated and not even win their division and are overplaying because of only Allen.
@@Ekleaz josh Allen makes the o line seem better. They don’t allow sacks because he avoids like 10 per game.
Bills beat KC and Detroit. And had to play the ravens, Texans, 49ers, rams, it’s not like they’ve had a ton of easy games.
Ravens lost to the raiders and browns. Bad teams. And beat up on bad teams like the giants. But when they played the eagles and KC lost. They spanked the bills tho in week 4, so I’ll give em credit for that. But that was obviously a long time ago. Ravens are still a superbowl contender and Lamar should definitely be in the mvp convo, but Allen’s winning it this year
@calebdesjardins616 What? They had one of the softest schedules this year. Their own division doesn't even have a team above .500. People will say anything. They are a good team, but let's not act like they been through the gauntlet like the Ravens, Steelers, Eagles , Chiefs and even Detroit and Minnesota
These 2 could give anybody a headache !🤐
Right! It wasn’t Detroits total lack of any defense it was JoshAllen. The Lions were so bad anybody would have done that yesterday! By the way no quarterback should the the NFL MVP at all.
Slow your roll....Lamar...for real??? Crazy...josh has led the league the last 3 yrs...shut the front door...Allen has everyone beat....
What good defense this man has played?
He played a high school team in the Giants
Man they are always trying to take away from Allen and give it to Lamar
How many times has Lamar sat in the 4th quarter? 0. We’ve seen like 5 quarters of Mitch this year.
Refs robbed Allen of a td b4 half and tbat hold on the td in the 4th was just a joke
Hey guys he does not have a number 1 receiver like other QB have just think about that
They always say well bills beat a bunch of nobody's yadda yadda but beat chiefs and lions. But Lamar Jackson beats the giants and hes the greatest thing ever????
If Josh was black he would have won it last year too. It’s so obvious.
Josh should've won it last year too stop this nonsense
Lamar played the giants and a jv de that didny even attempt to cover wrs lololll
Stop the bullsh!t Shannon inthe tank for Lamar. Only a couple of weeks ago -- late in the season -- Lamar turned in a poor performance. Same of Saquon Barkley yesterday. Yet NOBODY highlights that ... meanwhile they jump all over it if Josh Allen has a bad game (with nowhere near thetalent surrounding him). Moreover, I do NOT want to hear the crap about Lamar's stats. TWICE Lamar Jackson has been GIFTED the MVP award with stats that were FAR BELOW Josh Allen's (including last season), and all the voters claimed it wasn't about who had the best stats as the "justification"to deny Allen the MVP. So don;t now try to gift Lamar another MVP because of "stats." Earlier this sear there wasa debate about the Ravens having TWO MVP candidates (Derick Henry). Well, if a tream has "two" "MOST valuable" players, they they have NONE !!!! There is NO SINGLE PLAYER MOST VALUABLE to his team than Josh Allen -- especially this season with minimal surrounding talent not yet fully developed.
Not even club ghay ghay wrong
Hypin LJ8 bc he went 21/25, 290 yds, zero picks, and 5 TDs… 🥱. JA17 already did this 3 years ago IN The Playoffs, not a 2-Win Team that’s been eliminated from the Playoffs. Additionally, Allen & The Bills didn’t lose to Winston & The Browns either.