Tips to master Liszt Liebestraum Cadenza... and many other virtuoso pieces

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  • @purpasteur
    @purpasteur Рік тому +33

    The shot with the fingerings will save a lot of people a lot of time 👍

  • @kmg1663
    @kmg1663 Рік тому +13

    I have beem working on Liberstraum for two months now and I can play everything before the second cadenza. Then I stopped practicing liberstraum and started a Beethoven sonata. Thank you very much Mr. Liszt

    • @larghedoggo9607
      @larghedoggo9607 Рік тому +1

      First, you gotta find the right fingering for "you"(I have seen like 4 or more versions, piano secrets provides easiest, but you can add on change in right hand)
      And then most importantly!
      Your gesture with finger and wraist really matters to speed up. It requires a bit more angle than flat style fingering and feeling relaxed, wraist rotates to hit right and left notes.
      In this case you minimize your finger work, you just move your hands together down, then the cadenza is play through.
      Let's say, it's actually quite easy to play slow, so don't force yourslef to speed up with mistakes.
      You will find it amazingly improving after you sleep + wake up. That's how our brain work!

  • @nickk8416
    @nickk8416 Рік тому +36

    Just maybe your best video Annique! Slow, deep into the keys in small sections, with careful fingerings and over and over again. It's really comes down to that. Even 10 minutes a day for this cadenza will amaze you a month forward. I was never taught how to practice. Little by little over the years I've learned just what you are saying. You are so right. I hate to practice and am impatient with myself but I'm getting better and having more fun. Now if I can only get the Chopin Ballade G-Minor coda! I have to go back and take your advice on that one. :) Thank you Annique. Best wishes.

  • @barrymckockinner9292
    @barrymckockinner9292 Рік тому +19

    "I'm not a wizard" is exactly what a wizard would day. 🤔

  • @felixporras1791
    @felixporras1791 5 місяців тому +7

    Excellent video, Anique. "Repetition makes permanent". And when you repeat the correct way to play, repetition makes perfect.

  • @zachsaw78
    @zachsaw78 9 місяців тому +2

    You know before I stumbled upon this channel when it had around 100 subscribers, I never thought of fingering as anything other than just numbers on fingers you use on the piano keys. But even since the episode where Anique couldn't figure out what it's called in English, and that she's reminded me fingering has an alternate meaning, every time I hear the words fingering it doesn't carry the same meaning anymore 😅 "thanks" to you Anique. 45 years of innocence ruined...

  • @elisabetbarth5573
    @elisabetbarth5573 Рік тому +18

    The first was not difficult but the second one almost drove my son crazy....practicing that has a social dimension.

    • @Jk-ow8ny
      @Jk-ow8ny 6 місяців тому

      For me the second one is way easier

    • @Helix_0990
      @Helix_0990 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Jk-ow8nyyeah same, it's just a chromatic scale so it's not really a big deal, at least for me

  • @lotto5883
    @lotto5883 Рік тому +8

    I love 2-4 and 1-3 for the cadenza. Felt much more comfortable to me

    • @xX_din44
      @xX_din44 7 місяців тому

      Yes me too

    • @jmc6326
      @jmc6326 5 місяців тому +1

      I do that, but I use 5-2 on the Ab/Db group. I feel really stable

    • @ckkonto
      @ckkonto 4 місяці тому

      ⁠@@jmc6326yes! 2-4 and 1-3 with 2-5 on the Ab/Db fourth feels the most natural, right?

  • @forsaken841
    @forsaken841 Рік тому +8

    I love your channel so much! I started learning Moonlight Sonata as a self taught first year, and I found your sight reading attempt video on it and it helped me feel like I knew what I was doing.

  • @ItzJay_XD
    @ItzJay_XD 19 днів тому

    This is good because I’ve just got to the cadenza and have the notes just need some tips. Thanks Annique

  • @pianikus
    @pianikus Рік тому +2

    This chain is sooo beautiful though😳

  • @TheSunlex
    @TheSunlex Рік тому +2

    Ich bin am 13. Januar in Leipzig dabei. 🎉 Habe schon Karten gekauft und Hotel gleich gegenüber gebucht. 😊

  • @nickk8416
    @nickk8416 Рік тому

    This video is even better the 2nd time around!! Perfect practice is it. Now do it again! :) Thanks Annique. Love your sense of humor!

  • @Mike-qo8nm
    @Mike-qo8nm Рік тому +4

    Ahhhh lollolololol that was the greatest opening ever!

  • @delecane1988
    @delecane1988 Рік тому +1

    Thankfully, I always practiced thirds on school desks while listening to lectures

  • @Xandar
    @Xandar Рік тому +2

    i'm in love with your videos 🫶

  • @Michachel
    @Michachel Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much, we need a follow up vid for the second cadenza 🙏

  • @numberoneolive2464
    @numberoneolive2464 Рік тому +1

    Very good tips! I also split the voices in my right hand and practice them seperately.

  • @Rave2020
    @Rave2020 Рік тому

    You're Amazing.!
    Your video's are greatly appreciated.!

  • @tre5895
    @tre5895 6 місяців тому +1

    The unintentional asmr at the end❤

  • @Christian333x
    @Christian333x Рік тому

    This really shows the importance of those Hanon exercises!

  • @gsoulseeker
    @gsoulseeker 7 місяців тому +1

    52/31 is a game changer ! Thanks

  • @simonachakarjaneva5761
    @simonachakarjaneva5761 Рік тому +5

    Thank you so much ❤ I’m studying this composition and this is really helpful ❤❤❤❤

  • @retrokeyed
    @retrokeyed Рік тому

    Piano technically way beyond my league yet, but probably one of your funniest videos and great tips! Thumbs up!

  • @joari123
    @joari123 Рік тому

    Super Tipps und schöne Hände. 👍

  • @EdmundHeng80
    @EdmundHeng80 Рік тому +2

    Hi Annique. Please show how to practice the 2nd cadenza as well. That one is much worse than the 1st one. lol.

  • @kzelmer
    @kzelmer Рік тому +4

    But, but... the difficult one is the second one xD

  • @ngck
    @ngck Рік тому +1

    Can you make a video about the 2nd cadenza as well? Thanks!

  • @oscaralvarezdelacuadra8161
    @oscaralvarezdelacuadra8161 4 місяці тому

    Excelente video. Saludos, regards, best from Mexico.

  • @musicpiano4304
    @musicpiano4304 Рік тому +2

    Practice makes better🥊

  • @larrygraham3377
    @larrygraham3377 Рік тому

    Thanks for another wonderful video. I recently spoke to a friend of mine who a very accomplished pianist on the very topic.
    Will forward your video to him !!!
    Wishing you great success on your upcoming concert. I really do love CHOPAN !!!

  • @RyanJunior-h9s
    @RyanJunior-h9s 9 місяців тому +1

    she is soo pretty.

  • @ivangonzalezpolaiii1223
    @ivangonzalezpolaiii1223 11 місяців тому

    I was actually doing the same fingering as yours but I was scared it was wrong thanks a lot :DDDD

  • @jaha1991
    @jaha1991 Рік тому

    Komme aus Dresden 🗣️🗣️ freue mich

  • @sweetpuff22
    @sweetpuff22 Рік тому +1

    I don't have much struggle playing the first cadenza but the second one is a real problem to me. I guess I have to practice more. T^T

  • @XinLiXiang12345
    @XinLiXiang12345 Рік тому

    Let's go !!! Nice vid !!!

  • @stephenschofield6870
    @stephenschofield6870 Рік тому +1

    I just loved this! Well done young lady (that was affection, not patronising). But, after a hard day's gardening, if it's ok with you, I'll go back to practicing this (which, co-incidentally, I am doing) - tomorrow. I'm taking a couple of day's rest from doing exactly what you say - but - my 72 year old fingers don't do what I want - so in the last section I have to use alternate three note chords in each hand - my fingers won't bend quickly enough. But I will try the rest of your fingering and see whether it works better than mine. This is all a problem from not playing for nearly 50 years (or it's an excuse) and if you can dissuade any young people from doing that, in 50 years time they will be grateful to you (that might be a bit difficult for a young person to appreciate). I now have to do daft things to get over the frustration of losing an ability that I once had - like now giving myself a year to play Liszt's Sonata and Hammerklavier - call me daft if you wish - it's now far too late! ;) On the other hand, I could just play your CD.... em... No, I promise I'll practice! I promise.

    • @stephenschofield6870
      @stephenschofield6870 Рік тому

      I practiced! I did! I practiced. Now I'm trying different things. Actually using 4 rather than 5, but then, after carpel tunnel and trigger finger operations, what else can I expect really? But you were really helpful. Thank you.

  • @calvinhu8922
    @calvinhu8922 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for teaching Annique, you look beautiful

  • @Emre10055
    @Emre10055 Рік тому

    Literally just finished liebestraum, sadly this vid didnt come out earlier

  • @fatmathepianist
    @fatmathepianist Рік тому +4

    Yayyy😍 I was waiting for this. Btw if u can do 1min 10min 1hour challange with Polovtsian Dance from Prince Igor, I would be very thankful :)❤ the melody in that piece is just marvelous :')

  • @hugomitre9096
    @hugomitre9096 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! Lots of helpful tips sprinkled with good humor. You are truly unique Annique! And such an elegant necklace too! Ok, I will go practice my fingerings now…(stop thinking weird!)🤪 Greetings from California! 🤩✌🏻🫶

  • @elisabetbarth5573
    @elisabetbarth5573 8 місяців тому

    Unspoken if, but I have had progress with practicing in parallel with housework. 5-15 min goes into muscle memory each time... Brain works on it and make progress, no tension problems.

  • @eliezeraquinosilva9887
    @eliezeraquinosilva9887 Рік тому

    i liked this

  • @byrdbyrd5429
    @byrdbyrd5429 9 місяців тому

    Thank you!!

  • @MRLegendPiano
    @MRLegendPiano Рік тому +127

    there's an uncomfortable amount of "buts" in this video

    • @Mike-qo8nm
      @Mike-qo8nm Рік тому +20

      Just the right amount. Certainly made me laugh out loud

    • @misterdubsteppa
      @misterdubsteppa 11 місяців тому +4

      There is no such thing as an "uncomfortable amount of butts"

    • @archsys307
      @archsys307 6 місяців тому +1

      I like big butts and I cannot Lie
      Algebra ther brothers cannot deny
      When a girl walks in with a itty titty group and a big fat round ring wit no zerodivisors
      I get stiff like a cobordism on a Klein bottle

    • @callmeqt1269
      @callmeqt1269 4 місяці тому +1

      @@misterdubsteppamy guy

    • @d_rivadeneyra
      @d_rivadeneyra 3 місяці тому

      Not enough I'd say.

  • @bubbles7950
    @bubbles7950 Рік тому

    Could you do a video on how to use a metronome Annick, please😊?

  • @paulzeng6211
    @paulzeng6211 Рік тому

    I don't have a routine. I just absorb all the songs in my mind and my fingers. Shaking my head..

  • @teunvandesteeg7836
    @teunvandesteeg7836 24 дні тому

    Nice to hear. I am a concert organist and also a organ and pianoteacher all my life. I have also studied to find the right method of practicing. I am happy to notice the recommondations Annique make are really true. I can confirm this. BUT... there are very persistent problems, facts you cannot pass by. I mention a few. The whole muscle system of everybody has to learn to make certain movements and has to learn speed!! The motoric skills of a average beginner needs years and years to increase speed. The speed you need to play an easy Sonata of Haydn will take many years. Like me. I can run maybe as fast as a little child. But I cannot increase my speed twice as much. And besides, probably I will never walk as fast as a grown up boy or girl. (I am 68.) There are several limitations. Maybe to 30% of all pupils have much problems with note reading and a big group suffers form dyslexia. I mean Annique is right about the technique for good players who can read well and who have good motor skills. I feel very committed to pupils and students.

  • @ohneptune
    @ohneptune 8 місяців тому

    Est-ce possible de développer / débloquer une bonne technique (surtout en terme de vitesse) malgré des douleurs aux poignets ainsi que de légers problèmes d’articulation ?

  • @littlefurnace
    @littlefurnace Рік тому +1

    After being surprised by Principal Skinner's butt, I know that you are not only a great pianist, but(t) also a great video editor 🤣

  • @gixelz
    @gixelz Рік тому

    um. weird question, but where'd you get your necklace? it's awesome and i need one.

  • @colinmiles9488
    @colinmiles9488 3 місяці тому

    You really should look at Dr Molly Gebrian's videos on the latest research on efficient practising, specifically at using breaks, micro-breaks and interleaved practice.

  • @kmg1663
    @kmg1663 Рік тому

    Are you ending this video without posting the complete fingering for the 2nd cadenza?

  • @lindy7985
    @lindy7985 11 місяців тому

    I think I have the technique to play most of this piece, but I've never really practiced it because of the 2 cadenzas. But now you have inspired me to try again.
    Do you 1) First use the fingering in the score then adjust it if needed, or 2) Just come up with the fingerings yourself? or 3) It depends?

  • @TaycanSWGOH
    @TaycanSWGOH 6 місяців тому

    Do you have any plan to play in USA?

  • @nepnep2360
    @nepnep2360 10 місяців тому

    Isnt practicing the same part that are not good at until we improve by at least 1%, for every single day is what we must do when learning any instrument? I have been doing that for the past 2 years since i started learning the instrument :D, i was able to start and finish Liebestraum no 2 in 2-3 months, now i just need to practice the last page then i can proudly claim that im able to Play it. Now im moving to no 3 while practicing no 2 and other exam pieces

  • @omarmoramariachi
    @omarmoramariachi 6 місяців тому

    I like your kind of humor 😏

  • @nicolasterzani4188
    @nicolasterzani4188 Рік тому

    almost done with studying this and yes the cadenzas are hard.. but do they need to be played super fast? look at Claudio Arrau, who is one of the best interpreter of Liszt.. but today I hurt one of my finger!!!!

  • @jackisinforthewin
    @jackisinforthewin Рік тому +1

    Annique has changed since the "pregnant streams"

  • @torus1
    @torus1 Рік тому +1

    All I got out of it was to use the fingering and practice for 40 hours a day.

  • @binh1441
    @binh1441 10 місяців тому

    How did u use the pedal in the cadenza? Can u explain

  • @thesernitrific
    @thesernitrific 5 місяців тому

    When she says now she means NOW

  • @user-dn8zv9gj1y
    @user-dn8zv9gj1y 8 місяців тому

    2:35

  • @manueldiegoalexander3879
    @manueldiegoalexander3879 Рік тому

    This is crazy i don't expect you.

  • @diiselix
    @diiselix Рік тому +2

    Reallt? I think this is easier than anything after it in this piece/song

  • @RobJMeronek
    @RobJMeronek Рік тому

    As a guitarist I was shocked to see the number 5 in your fingerings. We only use 1-4 (thumb is behind the fretboard) for the left hand and use Spanish letters for right hand the thumb-p (pulgar), index-i (indice), middle-m (medio), ring-a (anular), and pinky-c (chiquito).
    Quite a difference.
    Starting out with the most correct finger movements really does produce the best results, but (as with the piano) they are usually unsupplied, I believe because of individual hand/ finger shapes. So time spent finding the right fingerings for each piece is well worth it. And annoying.

  • @Ranko22piano
    @Ranko22piano Рік тому

    いつもめっちゃかわいい❤

  • @jackisinforthewin
    @jackisinforthewin Рік тому +2

    Pregnant video annique

  • @MindKey-1
    @MindKey-1 Рік тому

    Ayo, our amazing Annique posted another video!

  • @ThatBoomerDude56
    @ThatBoomerDude56 2 місяці тому +1

    Ling Ling 40 hour per day practice time.

  • @markstevens5845
    @markstevens5845 Рік тому +2

    "OK, OK, you little Piano Pussies..."

  • @r.j4449
    @r.j4449 Рік тому

    I don´t use the fifth finger for this cadenza. Always the fourth. On the right hand I mean of course.

  • @zetalivsanns5360
    @zetalivsanns5360 Рік тому

    💚💚💙

  • @dalezalewski7759
    @dalezalewski7759 Рік тому

    Don't just practice until you've got it right; practice until you can't get it wrong.😅

  • @psSubstratum
    @psSubstratum Рік тому +1

    funny, I‘m currently practising the second cadenza of this piece.

    • @psSubstratum
      @psSubstratum Рік тому +2

      @@ChalumeauCauchemarLOL thank you very much!

    • @onehundredpicks5531
      @onehundredpicks5531 Рік тому

      Yeah i made it halfway then got frustrated 😂

    • @psSubstratum
      @psSubstratum Рік тому

      @@onehundredpicks5531 at least (I assume) it didnt take you almost 2 years to get to this part… thats how I bad I am

    • @onehundredpicks5531
      @onehundredpicks5531 Рік тому

      @@psSubstratum actually took me almost 2 to get it because i would get distracted learning other songs 😂

    • @psSubstratum
      @psSubstratum Рік тому

      @@onehundredpicks5531 ok this doesnt make me feel alone at least lol. I have to admit I wasnt disciplined about it either but its so hard to get yourself on the piano after a 10 hour work shift. otherwise whenever I'm practising I'm trying to get 3 hours done. would you consider yourself playing it "good"? whatever good means. forgive me for these questions but it was 2 years ago I promised a girl that I'm going to learn this piece so I can play it for her😅 its a long story...

  • @noraluzcalugas2731
    @noraluzcalugas2731 Рік тому

    Well, she sits on the Piano bench, derriere😊🚭🌐😇🛡️🏆🍿🧈🌌🎹Lovely Fingering!

  • @PressingMyLuckTruck
    @PressingMyLuckTruck Рік тому +1

    Did you call us piano pussies? You made my day, Annique! Then used the word “fingering” 600 times. My heart is melting. 🫠❤️‍🔥

  • @okagetheshadowking6883
    @okagetheshadowking6883 6 місяців тому

    😮

  • @GeomarNichols
    @GeomarNichols Рік тому

    🤣😂😭 how you opened up the video lmao

  • @milesgilbertpiano
    @milesgilbertpiano Рік тому +1

    I think second cadenza is much more difficult for me.

    • @toastedbutter9760
      @toastedbutter9760 Рік тому

      i suggest using thumb for white keys and second finger for black keys

  • @mayng8091
    @mayng8091 Рік тому

    Not as many as "like" when young people talk nowadays

  • @samsungrefrigeratorcondens4354
    @samsungrefrigeratorcondens4354 Місяць тому

    It doesn't help when the score squeezes the entire cadenza in half a line and it's basically unreadable. 😭

  • @vipassana72
    @vipassana72 Рік тому

    how many expert catholic pianists are there?
    have the House of Medici captured all possible creative pathways yet or what?

  • @f-mex5806
    @f-mex5806 Рік тому

    But

  • @notcoolcookies
    @notcoolcookies Рік тому +2

    Still too hard 💀💀💀💀

  • @AnthonyB2351
    @AnthonyB2351 Рік тому +5

    Much as I'm enjoying the language flubs lol, it's not "Everything starts with a good fingering", it's "Everything starts with good fingering" " "A good fingering" is something completely different and has nothing to do with the piano or any other musical instrument. If you think it does, I challenge you to play "Melancholy Baby" on it. Ask a native English speaking friend to explain.
    Keep up the good work. Love your content.♥
    Edit: For those who are getting the wrong end of the stick here, my comment was lighthearted - hint, there's a joke in it - and for those who may have missed Annique's joke because they do not have as excellent a command of English as Ms Göttler, or just enough English to think "a good" is correct and risk tripping themselves up when they use it.

    • @unbothered_kayo
      @unbothered_kayo Рік тому +4

      Im pretty sure it was said that way on purpose bro, and it can be said either way😭

    • @unbothered_kayo
      @unbothered_kayo Рік тому

      Simply depends on context

    • @AnthonyB2351
      @AnthonyB2351 Рік тому

      @@unbothered_kayo Nope. Not in this case.

    • @mrdrgriffin8790
      @mrdrgriffin8790 Рік тому +3

      Yeah...dude that was clearly a joke

    • @unbothered_kayo
      @unbothered_kayo Рік тому

      ​@@AnthonyB2351Bro it does depend on context. Either sentence can be referring to a completely different action if used in a certain way

  • @andrewmorton3344
    @andrewmorton3344 Рік тому

    Annique, Horowitz said that there were Jewish pianists, gay pianists and bad pianists...as I am a bisexual does that mean I can be half decent?

  • @Bejman13
    @Bejman13 6 місяців тому

    I’m sorry but many of your videos are just unbearable to get through. You could have summed this all up in 2 minutes. But you spent another 4 with random quips and jokes that don’t do anything to add to playing this piece

    • @ntjonk
      @ntjonk 6 місяців тому

      Just be thankful she took time and effort to help.

    • @Bejman13
      @Bejman13 6 місяців тому

      @@ntjonk Except she didn’t help. I ended up going to another video because she took too long to get to the point. It’s advice for the future.

  • @nomikamizu8796
    @nomikamizu8796 Рік тому

    This realy helps me a lot thank u!

  • @miguelfaria8649
    @miguelfaria8649 3 місяці тому

    2:34