Being in Florida suddenly explains how many ac units you have or can get for cheap. Might suggest a pump to circulate your water bath. Would help with slushing and heat transfer.
That parelleling of compressors is exactly how grocery store refrigeration racks work! They have tons of compressors all in parallel, for both redundancy and capacity scaling.
You can use tap water if the directional freezing is slow enough, you'll just be left with some really gross water as all the dissolved impurities get concentrated in the liquid
I think it would be interesting to see how much water you can supercool at once. How sick would it be if you supercooled 50 L of water at once. Distilled water that you stir the crap out of… your setup is basically perfect
For the bath around the ice pot, you could use water + glycol antifreeze (either regular ethylene glycol, or propylene glycol if you want a non-toxic solution). That will handle temps a low as -60C, depending on the glycol concentration. You could even use a heat exchanger with the glycol solution pumped through it, instead of the coil around the pot. That way, there would be a great deal of flexibility on the size/shape of the freezing container, and the thermal mass of the glycol (assuming it's pre-chilled) + the flow of the glycol solution should freeze water quite quickly.
Very cool. Have you thought about making a pykrete (ice+sawdust) cube with this setup? Would be interesting to see its alleged strength in this big block format
This would be a good thing to use in summer, if you run the cooler with solar panels during the day to make bulk ice, you can use the blocks at night to help cool down the house, probably with a pump and a radiator fan combo.
I came to say the same thing. Oversize the system a bit to get ice AND air conditioning during the day. Replace the salt water slurry with antifreeze and pump it around to radiators. Minimal battery storage needed to only run the pump and radiator fans.
with a multi compressor setup all you need to watch out for is that one doesnt get all the oil in the system but that can be fixed with a tube at the max hight of the oil of the compressor
You can make serious money supplying large clear ice blocks for art. Just freeze it only from the bottom of the pot and insulated the sides well with the top open
I’ve worked on ancient furnaces that were twinned together. On top was one large evap that went to two condensers just like your diagram so it has been done before.
You should see if you can find a dual compressor, Two-stage rooftop or package unit at the dump or from a local HVAC company doing a demo/ change out somewhere. It's got all the things you need and I would love to see somebody mess with one like this
You might be able to freeze faster if you use a heavy chamber, a cold trap, and a vacuum pump. Once the non-condensables are removed the vacuum pump won't need to do much so long as the cold trap can kind of keep up. With the non-condensables removed the water will boil and will do what it can to match the temperature of the cold trap/finger. If you have a way to scrape the ice off without breaking vacuum then you wouldn't need to worry about the ice insulating itself and should pretty much be able to maintain max cooling power.
It would make an awesome firepit for a party if you could place a firebowl in the center and have a way for the melting ice to not flow into the bowl and put out the flame. All in all it was a very COOL video.
The fact that my favorite movie as a kid, Mosquito Coast, has become a series on YT is just friggin amazing. I never fulfilled my dream of becoming a rockstar, but this is a good consolation.
There are methods to getting clear ice that size I believe it has to do with having the water be moving while it freezes to prevent bubbles from forming
This is so ducking cool. I love the logic, the planning. Most people will use a chest freezer for the same effect, but this is bad ass Imagine a fort made out of ice or walk lanterns burning tri methyl borate....
The problem with parallel compressors is oil management. You can not guarantee that each compressor receives the correct amount of oil back, this is why commercial multi compressor systems use oil level regulators and oil separators. But this comes at quite a price.
This is a really cool idea (badum tss). What about a ice cube maker that can make a TRULY silly amount of ice? Lets say I wanted to fill an entire pool with ice cubes... for cheap!
Attach some vibrators (eg. from a PS4 controller or a smartphone) to the evaporator so that the Ice forms and immediately shakes off the evaporator fins
You have the tools. in 2020 hindsight, rolling the ice cylinder might be easier than pushing flat. Always a pleasure to see how dificult some things are, like wrapping copper tube, looks easy on paper. what about really cold.
Part way through the video.... You can get vacuum insulated thermos.... Use it as evaporators. Break the vacuum run tie it after the needle valve or tube cap.... Ideally you should probably test if it can handle more then 15 psi too lol 😆
I was in a conversation with the misses and shouted 'STOP, hyperspace pirate dropped a video, we will have to continue this conversation in 19mins and 22secs.' I mean a man's go to do what a man's got to do. 🤷🏻♂️
Cool experiment, i got one for you. Sir William Ramsay & John William Strutt. The people who found the Nobble gases, could you repeat their experiments to find the "nobble" gases again?
You could use this to help people understand just how much energy is transferred by a central air conditioning system. Make three tons of ice, then show that melting 3 tons of ice over 24 hours is the same cooling as a 3 ton AC running constantly for 24 hours. It would be a helpful comparison when dealing with scam cooling products and those "bright ideas" involing coolers full of ice and fans.
You should put together a video of how someone could make their own window type ac unit with safe easy to obtain non flammable gases like maybe co2. Assuming one can braze as well as you. ;-)
Cool! hehe. How about an einstein refrigerator next? Or try to make bubble free, clear ice for this contraption you just made like the kind they use to make ice sculptures.
Real Genius Movie 1985 Quote: Chris Knight: How did you do it? (asking Ick) Ick: Oh sure. I tell you and you tell someone else, and the next thing you know we’re in the middle of another ice age. Since you did the dry ice video, Maybe a ice based laser that does 6 megawatts using excited bromine in a argon matrix.
COuld you do the experiment of burning magnesium IN the ice? It supposed to rip the oxygen from the water while it burns, and may be a interesting thing to do with a massive block of ice
Yeah...don't use a chest freezer to freeze a dead body. Dry ice is WAY better. Once it's good and stiff though the freezer will do a great job keeping it fresh for later use.
New challenge, giant CLEAR ice to make a 10 foot Sun magnifying lens to generate power, keep things frozen and make extra power. If 10 feet isn't enough go larger! Maybe even fresnel lens.
that alligator in hurricane - the touch of detail
It never stops, life is Education.
Children, help me learn most, reflecting on the Discovery, from ignorance and the Joy of learning and achievement
You are the singular reason i keep going to my thermodynamic classes in uni.
Tell your professor about him
wholesome tbh
Being in Florida suddenly explains how many ac units you have or can get for cheap.
Might suggest a pump to circulate your water bath. Would help with slushing and heat transfer.
That parelleling of compressors is exactly how grocery store refrigeration racks work! They have tons of compressors all in parallel, for both redundancy and capacity scaling.
I need to see that man-made blizzard footage lmao
frfr
Dairy Queen.
Nothing makes me happier than watching these videos. It's the perfect combo of funny educational and things I've never seen before
To make it clear, you need distilled water and it needs to be frozen from a single direction while insulating the other sides.
Boiled water is free from dissolved gasses and will give clear ice.
You can use tap water if the directional freezing is slow enough, you'll just be left with some really gross water as all the dissolved impurities get concentrated in the liquid
No, you dont need distilled water dont be silly. You just need to make sure it freezes directionally
@@Flygtraktorthis is also huge bogus
Distilled water has nothing to do with it
Pirate's next door neighbor: "Honey, he's at it again! WTF? He's making huge ice cubes... Maybe trying for the world's record giant Old Fashioned?"
You claim to live in Florida, but your safety footwear when pouring molten copper says Australia.
I don't see a difference
Or Pakistan
The ice dropped into the pool made quite a satisfying bloo-bloop.
And scientists couldn't figure out source of the bloop they head in their hydrophone array... SMH
/jk
A day in Florida, fantastic! A day in Florida with HyperspacePirate is priceless!
I think it would be interesting to see how much water you can supercool at once. How sick would it be if you supercooled 50 L of water at once. Distilled water that you stir the crap out of… your setup is basically perfect
So happy to see other Floridaman in their natural environment.
The only issue with parallel compressors is uneven oil return , Supermarkets systems have an elaborate oil level return system on the parallel pacs .
For the bath around the ice pot, you could use water + glycol antifreeze (either regular ethylene glycol, or propylene glycol if you want a non-toxic solution). That will handle temps a low as -60C, depending on the glycol concentration. You could even use a heat exchanger with the glycol solution pumped through it, instead of the coil around the pot. That way, there would be a great deal of flexibility on the size/shape of the freezing container, and the thermal mass of the glycol (assuming it's pre-chilled) + the flow of the glycol solution should freeze water quite quickly.
Fridge go brrrr
Finally a rendition of the birrr meme that actually makes sense
The burning acetylene test was a great idea.
Thanks for that clarification! Then there was the magnet and filings, which might be magnetite anyway.
13:50 amazing shot!
Add a small pump to move the water on top so the ice freezes from bottom up, will make it clearer.
Very cool.
Have you thought about making a pykrete (ice+sawdust) cube with this setup? Would be interesting to see its alleged strength in this big block format
Ditto!
This would be a good thing to use in summer, if you run the cooler with solar panels during the day to make bulk ice, you can use the blocks at night to help cool down the house, probably with a pump and a radiator fan combo.
I came to say the same thing. Oversize the system a bit to get ice AND air conditioning during the day. Replace the salt water slurry with antifreeze and pump it around to radiators. Minimal battery storage needed to only run the pump and radiator fans.
with a multi compressor setup all you need to watch out for is that one doesnt get all the oil in the system but that can be fixed with a tube at the max hight of the oil of the compressor
Florida Man experiences ice for the first time
This would be great for making pykrete!
Beautiful results. 10/10.
17:00 is... is that a 3d-printed firecracker...
Your little cartoons are getting better and better, the accurately represented Tuareg tribesman is 10/10
See if you can degas the water before freezing to make a crystal clear ice cylinder!
You can make serious money supplying large clear ice blocks for art. Just freeze it only from the bottom of the pot and insulated the sides well with the top open
so _that's_ why the chunks of ice all have holes in them
I’ve worked on ancient furnaces that were twinned together. On top was one large evap that went to two condensers just like your diagram so it has been done before.
I love hearing the antics of someone who's hobby involves vapor compression cycles!
You should see if you can find a dual compressor, Two-stage rooftop or package unit at the dump or from a local HVAC company doing a demo/ change out somewhere. It's got all the things you need and I would love to see somebody mess with one like this
You might be able to freeze faster if you use a heavy chamber, a cold trap, and a vacuum pump. Once the non-condensables are removed the vacuum pump won't need to do much so long as the cold trap can kind of keep up.
With the non-condensables removed the water will boil and will do what it can to match the temperature of the cold trap/finger. If you have a way to scrape the ice off without breaking vacuum then you wouldn't need to worry about the ice insulating itself and should pretty much be able to maintain max cooling power.
love the wow refrence at 17:28, im literally leveling my character on the new classic server as i watch this
2:12 …but what about Crescent Moon Ice / Pellet Ice / Cube Ice?
The ice lore, i NEED IT
It would make an awesome firepit for a party if you could place a firebowl in the center and have a way for the melting ice to not flow into the bowl and put out the flame. All in all it was a very COOL video.
That was far more satisfying that expected
the trimethyl borate is cool - nice video!
Brilliant work!
You live in Florida? Oh man, is it wrong that such a tidbit of information clears up so many questions?
Rock on, Floridaman. Rock on.
Man I would LOVE to see you build a freeze dryer. Not like those crappy dry ice tiny ones on other videos but a proper one with a vapor trap
I have worked on these, they are a nightmare.
The fact that my favorite movie as a kid, Mosquito Coast, has become a series on YT is just friggin amazing. I never fulfilled my dream of becoming a rockstar, but this is a good consolation.
Thus solving the problem once and for all. But… Once and for all!
There are methods to getting clear ice that size I believe it has to do with having the water be moving while it freezes to prevent bubbles from forming
This is so ducking cool. I love the logic, the planning. Most people will use a chest freezer for the same effect, but this is bad ass
Imagine a fort made out of ice or walk lanterns burning tri methyl borate....
Babe, come the fridge guy uploaded a new video.
Literally told my wife that exact sentence. The eyeroll is the reward.
@@ElectricalInsanitydamn, she doesnt appreciata a new video from the refrigerator guy? is she still your wife?
Same here, I need this dude as my neighbor 🤣
Back to being fridge guy
My gf hates these videos.
That's at least the second WoW reference I've seen and I am so glad.
You can put the bucket shaped ice upside down and put a candle inside the U shape
Just another bad idea: Giant LEGO molded ice blocks structured to make a Lego house.
I know exactly why you're doing this; to start a Christmas tree farm in southern Arizona using giant ice cubes for water and temp control.
Really embracing your inner doc emmet brown with this one
The problem with parallel compressors is oil management.
You can not guarantee that each compressor receives the correct amount of oil back, this is why commercial multi compressor systems use oil level regulators and oil separators.
But this comes at quite a price.
This is a really cool idea (badum tss). What about a ice cube maker that can make a TRULY silly amount of ice? Lets say I wanted to fill an entire pool with ice cubes... for cheap!
If you want to make clear ice cube ,you have to boil it first (or vacoum it) and freeze it in low speed
Attach some vibrators (eg. from a PS4 controller or a smartphone) to the evaporator so that the Ice forms and immediately shakes off the evaporator fins
Ski resort, possibilities 😮
Dude make PYKCRETE next. THAT STUFF IS AWESOME.
Now you should work on creating perfectly clear large ice cube.
Oh ! get a big lump of Potassium or Sodium or maybe Caesium on there ! Nice work !
you could also use an acetone or isopropyl bath instead of water with calcium chloride
Now make a bath tub shaped ice block and throw it in your pool and then just chill inside it..
Really cool!
I'd love to see you convert your water heater into one of those fancy $1200 compressor water heaters.
Weirdly wonderful 🙂
how about thermite vs ice cube? ;)
One of the best sponser sections on youtube, great video and thanks for the laugh. Keep them coming!
Normal residential HVAC units have both hot gas bypass and reversing valves depending on the system type
How soon before you make a pycrete ship?
You have the tools. in 2020 hindsight, rolling the ice cylinder might be easier than pushing flat. Always a pleasure to see how dificult some things are, like wrapping copper tube, looks easy on paper. what about really cold.
Part way through the video.... You can get vacuum insulated thermos.... Use it as evaporators. Break the vacuum run tie it after the needle valve or tube cap.... Ideally you should probably test if it can handle more then 15 psi too lol 😆
Different ppl have different kinds of christmas fun i guess
I was in a conversation with the misses and shouted 'STOP, hyperspace pirate dropped a video, we will have to continue this conversation in 19mins and 22secs.' I mean a man's go to do what a man's got to do. 🤷🏻♂️
HOLY MOLY REFRIGERATOR MAN NOW AN ICE CUBE MAN ASWELL
The ice drink glass joke made my day 😂
that's not a goddamn cube smh
Should have spent more time in geometry 🙄
La voix française !!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Merci !!!
Make another giant ice block, drill a hole in it and insert 1 kg of sodium. That would be fun.
Fun as always.
i love your orkish engineering
iceman uploaded🎉
if you decide to do this again, it would be cool to see you drop something like potassium metal into a predrilled hole.
Cool experiment, i got one for you. Sir William Ramsay & John William Strutt.
The people who found the Nobble gases, could you repeat their experiments to find the "nobble" gases again?
What? No thermite on ice?
5:51 doggo jumpscare
You seem to really like making refrigeration systems
I think if you add a slight amount of agitation to the pot the ice should end up clear.
You can go wrong sharing videos of pets. ❤ 🐶
13:40 idk man, i feel like it would be easier to turn it on its side and roll it like in Breaking Bad xD
Nic looks like fun
You could use this to help people understand just how much energy is transferred by a central air conditioning system. Make three tons of ice, then show that melting 3 tons of ice over 24 hours is the same cooling as a 3 ton AC running constantly for 24 hours.
It would be a helpful comparison when dealing with scam cooling products and those "bright ideas" involing coolers full of ice and fans.
5:55 They will be frozen in ice Inshallah
You should put together a video of how someone could make their own window type ac unit with safe easy to obtain non flammable gases like maybe co2. Assuming one can braze as well as you. ;-)
Cool! hehe. How about an einstein refrigerator next? Or try to make bubble free, clear ice for this contraption you just made like the kind they use to make ice sculptures.
3:45 this concepts seems like the inverse of the finger-freezer-condenser issue
Real Genius Movie 1985 Quote:
Chris Knight: How did you do it? (asking Ick)
Ick: Oh sure. I tell you and you tell someone else, and the next thing you know we’re in the middle of another ice age.
Since you did the dry ice video, Maybe a ice based laser that does 6 megawatts using excited bromine in a argon matrix.
COuld you do the experiment of burning magnesium IN the ice? It supposed to rip the oxygen from the water while it burns, and may be a interesting thing to do with a massive block of ice
Yeah...don't use a chest freezer to freeze a dead body. Dry ice is WAY better. Once it's good and stiff though the freezer will do a great job keeping it fresh for later use.
New challenge, giant CLEAR ice to make a 10 foot Sun magnifying lens to generate power, keep things frozen and make extra power. If 10 feet isn't enough go larger! Maybe even fresnel lens.
Yaaay another video 😊
imagen being his neighbor and seeing a huge block of ice in Florida outside your neighbors house